Speaker 1: Check it on Man No Down then Wednesday evening November
Speaker 1: Beating the Book podcast megapod from the south Point Hotel Casino.
Speaker 1: You may have noticed the night before we usually do
Speaker 1: this and not at the d but at the south
Speaker 1: Point because we're accommodating Mike Palm's itinerary. He's got a
Speaker 1: big week. We'll get into that momentarily, Scale Alexander, thanks
Speaker 1: for listening. It's week nine in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Staples of the show are the guys on Skype. Guests
Speaker 1: on the show today are the guys with me at
Speaker 1: the south Point. First, the Staples uh in his mom's
Speaker 1: cork Addict there in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It's Todd wished that
Speaker 1: how you doing, Toddy Dodd, Hi, Gilly Iceman, Iserson. I
Speaker 1: just want you to know the Pittsburgh Steelers are a
Speaker 1: real organization. The Washington football team is not a good organization.
Speaker 1: Enough said, thank you good like twenty seconds into the pod.
Speaker 1: People are turning it off already after that, and Mikey,
Speaker 1: Mike Palm, Derek Stephen's conciliary, the VP of Operations and
Speaker 1: Circuits Sports, would you like to tell everybody why you
Speaker 1: are in Washington? D C. Well. That that that. Thank you, Gil.
Speaker 1: I'm in your stomping grounds here. I've been appointed the
Speaker 1: Board of directors of the American Gaming Association and we
Speaker 1: have annual meeting here tomorrow at the Kempton Monaco Hotel
Speaker 1: in Washington. So I'm here and then after the meeting,
Speaker 1: I fly to Iowa to help promote the launch of
Speaker 1: Circuits Sports in Iowa. So it's a tremendous week for me.
Speaker 1: That's a that's another way of saying doing the lord's
Speaker 1: work of the course, beautiful job. Indeed, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a pretty big honor, isn't it, Mike, to to be
Speaker 1: on the board of Directors. Oh yeah. There's some heavyweights
Speaker 1: and heavyweights to the gaming gaming industry on this board
Speaker 1: and this is there our chief lobbying body. So it
Speaker 1: was an honor and hopefully we can enact some change
Speaker 1: that will affect everyone positively positively. That's right, okay. And
Speaker 1: the guests of the show today, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: a a sort of good accident to have you there
Speaker 1: and not be able to do the show on Thursday
Speaker 1: morning because Las Vegas. Chris, who's been on the show
Speaker 1: many many times before, multiple contest winner here in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas at the Palms. He's won the win before last
Speaker 1: Man Stand in college football over there at Stations. Of
Speaker 1: course you finished second and fifth and Circum Millions last
Speaker 1: year and Circle Millions too. He does a podcast with
Speaker 1: Adam Churnoff the same time we do it on Thursday,
Speaker 1: so we weren't gonna be able to have him this year,
Speaker 1: but because we switched to Wednesday, Las Vegas, Chris in
Speaker 1: the house, how are you doing, man, You're good? This
Speaker 1: is fraud. I was told there was an open bar.
Speaker 1: We can we can arrange for that. Waitings make it happen,
Speaker 1: South Pole and maybe not good to be here. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Thank you very much for being here.
Speaker 1: And Jeff Parlay, everybody producing number five and eight, the
Speaker 1: Grover Cleveland producers also on the show. Thank you Parlay.
Speaker 1: Of course I can't pass up an opportunity to be
Speaker 1: on the show and an opportunity to see the cork
Speaker 1: attict behind man you as you've been in the court,
Speaker 1: I have yes. Actually that's when he showed up behind
Speaker 1: you one day last year during the podcast, and then
Speaker 1: Todd totally beat my ass and tennis that day because
Speaker 1: he's really, because he's ten feet tall at the net.
Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do. Is he really good tennis?
Speaker 1: Guess what the weather was, what there were outside? Wait,
Speaker 1: hold on you, Chris, repeat what you just said. Is
Speaker 1: he really good at tennis? So let's let's put it
Speaker 1: this way for someone. And Todd has lost a lot
Speaker 1: of weight. When Todd was a little bit bigger than
Speaker 1: he is, he was significantly better than you would have
Speaker 1: ever expected anyone of that weight to be a tennis
Speaker 1: I remember playing poker with these fat, pudgy guys fifteen
Speaker 1: years older than I was at the time, in my
Speaker 1: early twenties, and we're talking racketball, and these guys wanted
Speaker 1: to gamble on racketball. I was playing a lot of
Speaker 1: racketball at the time, and I thought it was the
Speaker 1: easiest money I could ever make. Just wiped me out.
Speaker 1: I was just like two fifteen one, you know, Chris.
Speaker 1: That's why I do the tennis barn storming tour. Bill
Speaker 1: will tell you all about my tennis barn storming. When
Speaker 1: I gamble with people in tennis and they think they
Speaker 1: can play me, and they get romped. Sometimes sometimes he's
Speaker 1: so big that you can't see the sun at a
Speaker 1: certain point. So he's like, he's he's a no. Mike
Speaker 1: Palm tried to beat him with the moonball strategy that
Speaker 1: no but but but Todd, but Todd will employ the
Speaker 1: moon ball strategy against you. Todd can't return by Truss.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, there inspired Chris Toy. I played just so
Speaker 1: you know. Today I played. It was forty six degrees out,
Speaker 1: so I am dedicated to that. He's ready to go. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we want to get to week night because week
Speaker 1: night we're gonna get to Survivor, which is just nuts.
Speaker 1: This week, Um, we're gonna get to everything. Our three
Speaker 1: best bets teasers, last two questions, big favorite, most likely
Speaker 1: lose out right of course, a team you want no game,
Speaker 1: rather that you want no part of. But first, Mikey
Speaker 1: a Circus Survivor update. We finally had carnage. Yeah we did.
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals took out a huge portion of the
Speaker 1: field over forty one percent last week, and then some
Speaker 1: other folks getting eliminated along the way with some nervy
Speaker 1: place So Gil, we're finally down to less than what
Speaker 1: we started with last year. Yeah, finally, uh, finally, the
Speaker 1: the exact number by the way, because I actually wrote
Speaker 1: it down because I was curious myself. We started last
Speaker 1: year with and how many last year thirteen ninety. We're
Speaker 1: down to UH eleven eighty eight. I believe eleven eighty eight.
Speaker 1: But it's not apples to apples because people have used
Speaker 1: up tons of teams. Yes, so we started with forty
Speaker 1: eight four thousand eighty this this year's circle survivor did not.
Speaker 1: We did, but it started with four thousand eighty exponentially,
Speaker 1: you know, almost four times more UH this year. But
Speaker 1: the Bengals alone took out forty point nine percent of
Speaker 1: the remaining entries this past week. Forty four point two
Speaker 1: percent total were eliminated this past week, So eleven eighty
Speaker 1: eight left um todd the And by the way, how
Speaker 1: many people didn't submit? Mike? Well, see this is where
Speaker 1: people were going on and on about there were seven
Speaker 1: entries not submitted, but one person had five of them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he came down at ten after three or
Speaker 1: three twenty or whatever. It was very angry with us
Speaker 1: that we wouldn't let him in this it's your fault, yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: poor dude. Well, he was in a poker tournament that
Speaker 1: was his excuse. You know, they have breakes in poker tournaments.
Speaker 1: They have bathroom breaks and you also they have something
Speaker 1: called the blinds. You can just get up and walk away.
Speaker 1: Don't they have an app also that you could hit
Speaker 1: handle on your hand if there was only an alarm
Speaker 1: on your phone. He was mad, He said, how come
Speaker 1: at to fifty didn't get a call? A courtesy call? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna How come I didn't get a call when
Speaker 1: I took the Raiders? How come somebody didn't call me?
Speaker 1: He called you, He tried to tell you, Todd. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: listening to a guy like that who's extremely reasonable. All right, Todd,
Speaker 1: what is our court stenographer? What was our record last week? Well?
Speaker 1: I want to give a little congratulations to my good
Speaker 1: friend Gilly the iceman Cometh for a big week last week,
Speaker 1: going two and one with the Niners Carolina, losing with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. He lost his teaser to go to five
Speaker 1: two and one. He won two out of three regular
Speaker 1: so he's nine and fifteen. He's right back in the hunt.
Speaker 1: Because me and Mikey took oh and threes, oubsolutely blasted.
Speaker 1: I took a very bad beat in Las Vegas. Chris
Speaker 1: is gonna get mad at me. But I did take
Speaker 1: a very bad beat in the over fifty and a
Speaker 1: half of the Green Bay game and then the other
Speaker 1: two or whatever, and Mikey really was on the wrong
Speaker 1: side of everything. He had the Chargers minus five Washington
Speaker 1: football team over since Sinnati minus ten and a half.
Speaker 1: Actually we'll give him that one. He might have covered
Speaker 1: on the Cincinnati minus tend half. But the bottom line
Speaker 1: is Mikey is now eleven twelve and one. I am
Speaker 1: ten and fourteen. So it's all getting tight on the
Speaker 1: regular thing. On the teasers, I am still in first
Speaker 1: place at six and two, might get five and three.
Speaker 1: Gilly right behind it five two and one, So it's
Speaker 1: very tight on the teasers as well. So I'm in
Speaker 1: second half game out Mikey, second teasers and you are
Speaker 1: third on picks, but you're right there in striking distance.
Speaker 1: And I have a feeling, Mike he's gonna have another
Speaker 1: bad week because he's out there. You know who we're,
Speaker 1: you know, hanging out with the grand two balls to
Speaker 1: try to help the giant corporations gambling corporation that need help. Chris,
Speaker 1: you you had a comment for Todd's bad beat remark. No,
Speaker 1: I don't mind people mentioning a bad beat and moving
Speaker 1: on from it. It's the people who moan about it.
Speaker 1: Oh God, it act like you've won before. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 1: it's just infuriating. Yeah, it's a lot in my Twitter
Speaker 1: if you want to see my moaning and bitching. I
Speaker 1: just can't take it. I really can't. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: part of your people always forget about the great beats
Speaker 1: they have, and they want to piss and moan endlessly
Speaker 1: about the bad beats. And if you're any good at
Speaker 1: what you're doing, you're going to put yourself in position
Speaker 1: for more of them. So it's totally true. The confirmation
Speaker 1: that's what I said earlier. You didn't give me. That's
Speaker 1: it's a confirmation bias of only recognizing the beats that
Speaker 1: are they go against you, rather than ones that they
Speaker 1: are in your favor. Totally totally believe that. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the best bets, Chris. What about Thursday Night? Oh,
Speaker 1: Thursday Night, Thank you, Todd, I really should know the
Speaker 1: format of this show. Thursday Night. It is the Jets
Speaker 1: at Indian Apples, the Jets coming off the Mike White game.
Speaker 1: Four five yards passing, the most ever for a rookie debut,
Speaker 1: with the exception of Cam Newton's for twenty and his
Speaker 1: rookie debut years ago. The most passing yards for Jets
Speaker 1: quarterbacks is Vinny Testaverity in two thousand they beat the Bengals.
Speaker 1: That was the source of mo of the Survivor carnage.
Speaker 1: But Indianapolis coming off the the loss in overtime to
Speaker 1: the Titans where Carson Wentz had maybe the worst interception
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life than another one in overtime,
Speaker 1: but the Colts scored two more touchdowns by just chucking
Speaker 1: the ball up the field and having a d back
Speaker 1: on the other team run into their receiver. That's their
Speaker 1: best play. The Colts are ten and a half point
Speaker 1: favorites in this game. Chris, any any play on this
Speaker 1: at all. This doesn't have to be one of your bets,
Speaker 1: but just curious about No, I can't play a game
Speaker 1: like this because you know Wentz starts this season is chump,
Speaker 1: then he's a hero, and now he's a chump again.
Speaker 1: You've got more injuries going on with the team, and
Speaker 1: this team is by far so much better than they
Speaker 1: than their record is indicated. It's it's just a shame
Speaker 1: that they don't have a better record. But you don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets are getting stronger on defense, and
Speaker 1: they may show up with that kind of point spread
Speaker 1: in that type of game. How can you really, you know,
Speaker 1: convincingly play either side. And I'm not much of a
Speaker 1: totals guy, so I can't come in on that play
Speaker 1: you playing it. I want to, but I'm not going to.
Speaker 1: Look we how much of what we saw last week
Speaker 1: is just a total aberration from Mike White and how
Speaker 1: much of it is real? I have no idea because
Speaker 1: at least when he came in a game against New England,
Speaker 1: the first throw was looked confident to touchdown to Davis.
Speaker 1: He looked confident until about midway through the third quarter,
Speaker 1: and then the wheels completely came off in that game.
Speaker 1: But he was great the whole game against since both
Speaker 1: intercept The first interception just led Crowder a little too much,
Speaker 1: too much heat, deflected ball, fluky, second one total fluke
Speaker 1: playoff Carter's helmet fluky. Other than that, he was basically
Speaker 1: perfect eight in completions, absolutely incredible. But look, the Jets
Speaker 1: have gotten destroyed on the road. They're they're minus seventy
Speaker 1: two point differential and traditional road games this year. So
Speaker 1: I have no faith in that coaching staff to get
Speaker 1: the ready on a short week on the road. And
Speaker 1: they have tape on Mike White. Now, which is the
Speaker 1: other big thing? Todd or Mike any play on this game.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Jets, but not as one of my
Speaker 1: best three plays. I think this is too many points.
Speaker 1: I think that's a devastating emotional loss for the Colts
Speaker 1: to come back on a short week and give Mike
Speaker 1: White credit. He was terrific. He threw for four hundred
Speaker 1: yards after thirty eight years ago, leading Illinois to the
Speaker 1: rose Ball. A old coach reference, Christie Andrews, who I
Speaker 1: do guessing lines with, who runs the South Point Sports book,
Speaker 1: said he had some story where like his relatives or
Speaker 1: his relatives and their friends were like trying to blend
Speaker 1: in with Americans, and they all had like fake American names,
Speaker 1: and they asked one of them, They're like, what's your name?
Speaker 1: He's like Michael White, Mike Todd anything on this Mike White.
Speaker 1: I remember him at Western Kentucky and maybe he's like
Speaker 1: a poor man's Drew Brees. I remember him too, you know,
Speaker 1: you know the the Sometimes I think these NFL teams
Speaker 1: they get too enamored of the you know, it's almost
Speaker 1: like the non money ball. Oh the guy looks like
Speaker 1: a great quarter you know. It's the same reason Tom
Speaker 1: Brady went in the sixth round. Now, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Mike White's going to be great or anything, but he
Speaker 1: did play on on a team where he had to
Speaker 1: make a lot of decisions from the quarterback position, and
Speaker 1: he did it very very well Western Kentucky. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: he probably doesn't have the all the you know, tools
Speaker 1: that they look for in an NFL quarterback or something.
Speaker 1: But you know what, he might be good because I
Speaker 1: remember that Western Kentucky offense being very very good. And
Speaker 1: maybe he'll be okay until they figure him out, or
Speaker 1: maybe he'll just be okay period. Alright, alright, best bets
Speaker 1: of the weekend, Let's have one from you, your top bet, Chris. Right,
Speaker 1: it's a no special special, Okay, that's fine, we'll ask
Speaker 1: you later. To Regan. All right, I'm I'm picking the
Speaker 1: game where both teams have lost seven games in a
Speaker 1: row and one of them is number thirty two and
Speaker 1: one of them is what is thirty one on my rankings. Offensively,
Speaker 1: one team is thirty the other one is thirty one. Uh,
Speaker 1: offensively and then defensively exactly the same. So my philosophy is,
Speaker 1: when you can take points with two bad teams, you
Speaker 1: take the point. So I'm taking Houston, Wow, regardless of
Speaker 1: it's Davis Mills or to Rod Taylor. I don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the line's inching up, so I'm kind of
Speaker 1: thinking it might not look good for Tyrod. I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's what it sort of indicates. So but you know what,
Speaker 1: you don't bet bad teams unless you're getting points from
Speaker 1: other bad teams. Although that backfired last week with Philadelphia
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. So I'll do the square mdo theory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that happened Seattle Jacksonville to last week. That
Speaker 1: was like, the bad teams looked horrific awful. So what
Speaker 1: are we giving him six and a half or seven?
Speaker 1: Gilly half? It is I six and a half, six
Speaker 1: and a half, six and a half times six and half.
Speaker 1: All right, Jeff Parlay your first pick. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: back to the Brandon Staley Well and the l A
Speaker 1: Chargers laying only a point and a half on the
Speaker 1: road at Philadelphia. Look, I have said it with you, Gil,
Speaker 1: I've said it uh in our numerous phone conversations that
Speaker 1: Wes Reynolds and I have had trying to figure out
Speaker 1: our circle millions picks. The Eagles to me are a
Speaker 1: bad football team. That are they are poorly coached. That
Speaker 1: defense only performs well against bad offenses, and we saw
Speaker 1: it last week against a bad offense in Detroit. That
Speaker 1: defense looked absolutely spectacular. Jalen Hurts through for a hundred
Speaker 1: and seven yards last week and they scored forty four
Speaker 1: And when they scored forty four points, Jalen Hurts against
Speaker 1: good teams this year, Gil has looked abysmal. Now, I
Speaker 1: know the Chargers can't stop the run, and the one
Speaker 1: thing Hurts does well is move with his legs and
Speaker 1: actually create some plaze with his legs. But in the
Speaker 1: end here the Chargers offense is going to look better
Speaker 1: than it did last week against New England and the
Speaker 1: week before that before the bye with the Ravens. So
Speaker 1: get right a scenario where for me, the Chargers, if
Speaker 1: they're anything like the team we thought they were three
Speaker 1: weeks ago, they'll go on the road and handle their
Speaker 1: business and cover one one and a half in Philly. Alright, Chargers.
Speaker 1: That that's the most interesting line of the week to me,
Speaker 1: most interesting line of the week. American Gaming Association Board
Speaker 1: of Director Mike Paul your first, Todd, what is the
Speaker 1: line current line on the Vikings and Ravens. I love
Speaker 1: what he asks. Six. I'm gonna see I have I
Speaker 1: have six to heard from Chris all Right, I have six.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna lay six. I think that you
Speaker 1: know what I did. I did not see much of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys Vikings game on Sunday night because it was
Speaker 1: Halloween and I was trying to trick or treat with
Speaker 1: my son. Look, that's a bad loss for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: I watched the game on the plane right on NF
Speaker 1: on network. They were replaying, and that's a bad loss
Speaker 1: from the Vikings to Cooper Rush horrible loans. It's a
Speaker 1: horrible loss. And now compound that with the fact that
Speaker 1: you go into Baltimore the Ravens are off a bye
Speaker 1: week and off a home loss to the Bengals. A
Speaker 1: bad spot anyhow, Becausin's I'm starting to agree with Todd wishnev.
Speaker 1: This Cousins is just not good. I mean, he wants
Speaker 1: to check it down and check it down, and check
Speaker 1: it down and check it down, even against NONNI League defenses.
Speaker 1: I think this game is a total route. I don't
Speaker 1: think that Mike Zimmer can kick enough field goals in
Speaker 1: the first half to keep them in the game against
Speaker 1: the Ravens. And I'll lay anything less than a touchdown here,
Speaker 1: all right on the Ravens. Yeah, the Vikings welcome. Hey,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousin, show Mike. Here's the thing though, like that
Speaker 1: that coaching staff from Mike Zimmer, Clint Kubiak. It's so bad.
Speaker 1: They were one of thirteen on third downs in that
Speaker 1: game against Dallas. They could not have looked worse. I
Speaker 1: don't really know if it's in Kirk Cousin this thing.
Speaker 1: I really don't listen. I endured years of him in
Speaker 1: d C. Why isn't it the Dallas defense. Dallas defense
Speaker 1: deserves credit. I had no fear that the backup quarterback
Speaker 1: was going in. I really felt Dallas was going to
Speaker 1: win the game anyway. Yeah, Dallas is if solid, solid team,
Speaker 1: Well they are there a top five team for sure
Speaker 1: at this point, Todd your first pick. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back to the well with the game I lost last week,
Speaker 1: which was the Houston Texans. Again, I'm gonna go under
Speaker 1: in their game against the Miami Dolphins. Another team that sucks,
Speaker 1: but I think they can keep Houston out of the
Speaker 1: end zone. So give me under. I believe the number
Speaker 1: is forty five and a half. Under forty five and
Speaker 1: a half because the Texans can't score. It's here point
Speaker 1: the extra half point. Don't sing it again, though, don't
Speaker 1: give me the forty six. You know what, I just
Speaker 1: think that um Houston games are under games. The only
Speaker 1: way they go over is when ridiculous stuff happens at
Speaker 1: the way end, like what happened last week against the Rams.
Speaker 1: Houston just cannot score. I don't care how bad Miami
Speaker 1: is on defense, I still don't think Houston can score.
Speaker 1: And these teams are worse on offense than they are
Speaker 1: on defense. So give me under forty six in the
Speaker 1: Houston Miami game. Under forty six, Houston Miami. Man multiple
Speaker 1: bets on the poop poo platter game between the Texans
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins. All right, what is the line for?
Speaker 1: What is the current line is it seven and a
Speaker 1: half Kansas City hosting Green Bay? That's right here, it
Speaker 1: is seven. There are seven and a halfs in the world, though,
Speaker 1: what's the consensus. I would say almost everybody has seven
Speaker 1: and a half except for one or two seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: so seven and a half it is. Give me the
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love lad green Bay Packers. Um, oh, you're going
Speaker 1: with the Packers? Yes, I think that. And the Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers news came down this morning on a numbers game.
Speaker 1: Jeff and I parlay and I we we navigated through
Speaker 1: that whole thing. Yes, the difference in the line between
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Jordan's Love. We expected the market to
Speaker 1: react as it did, and it did, in fact, go
Speaker 1: seven and a half points towards the Chiefs. I had
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and survivor on Monday night. Anybody who had
Speaker 1: to endure that, uh knows just how diseased that football
Speaker 1: team is. They are so bad right now, like to
Speaker 1: the point where it's very difficult for us to purge
Speaker 1: from our brains how good they were to how bad
Speaker 1: they've become. Andy Reid is not content with a running game.
Speaker 1: They were very effective on the ground in that one
Speaker 1: touchdown drive against the uh against the Giants the other night,
Speaker 1: he wasn't content with it. Patrick Mahomes is extremely loose
Speaker 1: with the football. He's extremely impatient. UM defenses have realized
Speaker 1: that that the blueprint is don't blitz Mahomes, double Tyreek
Speaker 1: double Travis Kelsey. I think the Packers are going to
Speaker 1: really treat like they are very pumped. I think in
Speaker 1: some weird way to be able to have this challenge
Speaker 1: a week after they had you know, by the way,
Speaker 1: they're on extra rest here, a week after they didn't
Speaker 1: have Davante against the the Arizona Cardinals and knocked them
Speaker 1: from the ranks of the unbeaten. I think that they
Speaker 1: cover this number here. And by the way, if I
Speaker 1: were a survivor player and I'm tempted by Kansas City,
Speaker 1: I would caution people not to be tempted by them.
Speaker 1: That's how much I think the Chiefs have fallen. So
Speaker 1: I'm taking Green Bay plus the points my first. They're impatient,
Speaker 1: by the way, I couldn't agree with you more, Killy,
Speaker 1: They're the most impatient football team. They could run the
Speaker 1: ball for a hundred yards of play and they don't
Speaker 1: do it because they're impatient. They want to look superstars.
Speaker 1: They want to look to throw the ball over the place.
Speaker 1: If they would just run the ball, they could score
Speaker 1: every time. There's another thing going on. When r G
Speaker 1: three had his Rookie of the Year season in twelve
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt, and people love to bust
Speaker 1: on r G three, and it's the most unfair thing
Speaker 1: that they could ever say about any we got hurt,
Speaker 1: the rest of his career was ruined. But when he
Speaker 1: came back from the injury, his mechanics were never the same.
Speaker 1: He just was a terrible, you know, mechanical quarterback. Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is making all these great, beautiful side arm throws
Speaker 1: and everything, but you watch him now, he is like
Speaker 1: if you listen to Kurt Warner on the radio broadcast,
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner was a Hall of famer. It was very
Speaker 1: clear to say, hey, look I'm not Patrick Mahomes. I
Speaker 1: never was. But like, there are some open throws that
Speaker 1: his mechanics just suck, and that's very difficult to recapture. Um,
Speaker 1: I know it's Jordan's love. I don't know what we're
Speaker 1: getting with Jordan's love, but give me the seven and
Speaker 1: a half points. Gil one one, one, one last thing
Speaker 1: on Kansas City, though that I'm curious to what the
Speaker 1: what the group thinks here because Travis Kelsey's deteriorating health
Speaker 1: and deteriorating skill is what stood out to most me
Speaker 1: so far this year. Because Kelsey looks like remember at
Speaker 1: the end of his Gronk's tenure in New England where
Speaker 1: his back just basically gave out and he couldn't move.
Speaker 1: I don't think Kelsey's hurt to the extent that Gronk was,
Speaker 1: but he really looks like Gronkowski. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much of that is that defenses are doubling him more,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't get open anymore. I will tell you
Speaker 1: my answer to that is I noticed his his facial expressions,
Speaker 1: at his body language. He looked like way too negative
Speaker 1: for what was that like. He just didn't have any
Speaker 1: interest in fighting through the predicament he found himself in.
Speaker 1: That was my reaction. I'm not sure what anybody else thinks.
Speaker 1: Did you see Andy Reid at the press conference. I
Speaker 1: hadn't seen him in a while. He looked five years
Speaker 1: older than the last time I saw you, and he
Speaker 1: just really eluded no confidence whatsoever. He was just saying
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, what's going on? Lombardi
Speaker 1: had an interesting comment. I asked him a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago about that. Lombardi said, what was it? Who
Speaker 1: was it Mike who died? In his family? Who was
Speaker 1: that his son? You just wonder if like that affects
Speaker 1: him in a way that we've like almost forgotten about
Speaker 1: how a human being would be affected. He looked five
Speaker 1: years older in a year. He really does. And also too,
Speaker 1: we did one of his sons passed away from from
Speaker 1: from an overdose, and then his other son was just
Speaker 1: in that horrible uh potential d w I crash in
Speaker 1: Kansas City that uh that left a young girl basically
Speaker 1: brain dead too, So a lot of I mean, it's
Speaker 1: definitely there, and you're right. He he looks significantly older
Speaker 1: than he did in the postgame press conference last year
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, Chris number two, sir, um, So
Speaker 1: you're so shocked that we came back to you. No,
Speaker 1: I was gonna a snake. Did we want a snaker?
Speaker 1: Can Chris go second, We'll snake the next time. Chris?
Speaker 1: Were you gonna say Andy doesn't exactly eat the most
Speaker 1: healthy I was gonna make an off color reference to
Speaker 1: the number two. But the pick is better than a
Speaker 1: number two, I think. And I'm going with Buffalo over Jacksonville. Wow,
Speaker 1: and lay in the wood. Yeah, Because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you go back and you look at how many
Speaker 1: bad teams there are each year, it's typically four. This
Speaker 1: year it's more than four. The difference between the haves
Speaker 1: and the have nots has grown, and unfortunately, I have
Speaker 1: weeded out all double digits from my play, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: from even considering for my plays, and this year I'm
Speaker 1: throwing them back in because it's like college football. It's
Speaker 1: getting to be like college football. You can lay the ten,
Speaker 1: you can lay the four team, and I these teams
Speaker 1: are not remotely close at all. And this is the
Speaker 1: game before I think Jacksonville goes on a buy. Uh.
Speaker 1: They they didn't prepare, they came Oh no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: they came off the buy and and did that in Seattle,
Speaker 1: who are you kidding me? And and these teams are
Speaker 1: not in the same hemisphere. And an urban Meyer down
Speaker 1: twenty four gets the touchdown and kicks the extra point,
Speaker 1: saying I know you're not gonna win, but can you
Speaker 1: at least act like you're and then they kicked the
Speaker 1: onside kick afterwards, like you got to do one or
Speaker 1: the other. You can't like try and then not or
Speaker 1: not try and then try. Um chasm between the the
Speaker 1: ever widening chasm between the halves and the have nots,
Speaker 1: copyright and numbers game visa the sports betting nowhere. Um, Mikey,
Speaker 1: you're number two. No, Jeff your number two. First, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I I can see to Mike. I'm going to see
Speaker 1: where he goes in and I'll pay Mikey number two
Speaker 1: as long as before. It's interesting that Jeff mentioned um
Speaker 1: and he reads other Son and the d u Y
Speaker 1: and the girl. I think this is much worse situation
Speaker 1: for the Raiders having to deal with the Rugs killing
Speaker 1: somebody then what Gruden sent in an email about the
Speaker 1: rubber lips or fag or whatever. I mean, you're dealing
Speaker 1: with the teammate who has thrown his life away and
Speaker 1: a girl and her dog, a twenty three year old
Speaker 1: girl horrible and her dog burn alive. He's got people
Speaker 1: that don't live in Vegas don't understand how you can
Speaker 1: go a hundred and sixty rain. But it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's impossible. It's a residential area where there's a light,
Speaker 1: you know, every hundred and fifty yards. Uh, and so
Speaker 1: I think this is And you heard in David Carr's
Speaker 1: comments how much more difficult dealing with this is than
Speaker 1: dealing with Gruden. And Tom can tell you what a
Speaker 1: tough time they had dealing with Gruden in that game
Speaker 1: with the Bears. Now, and that was a home game.
Speaker 1: They have to fly across the country and play the
Speaker 1: New York Giants. Give me the Giants and three points here.
Speaker 1: You know. We had Bryant McFadden, the former NFL or
Speaker 1: two times Super Bowl champ, on Primetime Action tonight and
Speaker 1: he said the same. He's like, because we just want
Speaker 1: to get a player's perspective on it. He's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: the John Gruden thing is sort of like a rallying
Speaker 1: thing for players. This you're just catatonic, my word. Not
Speaker 1: you guys have giants plus three? Or do you haven't
Speaker 1: plus two and a half because I have mostly plus
Speaker 1: two and a half almost everywhere I see two and
Speaker 1: a half. Just still wanted to two and a half.
Speaker 1: Mikey Plush streaking it. It's three even, it's three four,
Speaker 1: two and a half Todd your call? What are you
Speaker 1: given him? I mean, I see you make the call
Speaker 1: because it's two and a half almost everywhere I see,
Speaker 1: but you make the call. I don't care. Um, what
Speaker 1: are you singing? Most of it's split based off out here.
Speaker 1: Out here, it's a lot of three against the three.
Speaker 1: You know the thing, and we won't be labored. But
Speaker 1: you know, it happened in on an intersection that most
Speaker 1: of us have driven on many, many times. And the
Speaker 1: notion that I just want to say this, the notion
Speaker 1: that he was going a hundred and fifty six miles
Speaker 1: per hour. First of all, did you know that a
Speaker 1: car could even go that like a normal car clocked out?
Speaker 1: He was probably blacked out, drunk and just put his
Speaker 1: foot all the way to the bottom. Now. No, I
Speaker 1: tweeted out a video because I did the route this morning,
Speaker 1: and I tweeted out a video that started before Tropicana
Speaker 1: on Rainbow heading, oh you did you? And I was
Speaker 1: shocked because one would have thought that he would have
Speaker 1: passed a light and then gunned it. Let's just say
Speaker 1: he goes through the intersection and let's just say seventy
Speaker 1: right and then guns it right. No, because the point
Speaker 1: of contact, and if you look at the video, is
Speaker 1: one second of travel time past Tropicana. So he had
Speaker 1: to have gone through the intersection at that one, because
Speaker 1: why couldn't you have just put his foot all the
Speaker 1: way down like way before, because the air bags went
Speaker 1: off at one, so he slowed down and you can
Speaker 1: see it, and all the red marks and all the
Speaker 1: green marks of where the point of collision is is
Speaker 1: so close to the intersection based on that speed, it's
Speaker 1: really alarming. It was horrible, absolutely horrible, like just the
Speaker 1: worst thing. And imagine, just imagine her final moments. So Mike,
Speaker 1: he's going with the with the giants and a play
Speaker 1: against the raiders who are dealing with that. And when
Speaker 1: we say dealing with it, let me just be clear,
Speaker 1: we realize the worst part of this is the death
Speaker 1: of that young lady and her you know, innocent as
Speaker 1: could be, could be anybody sitting at that intersection at
Speaker 1: three thirty nine in the morning. Uh, Todd, your play, Jeff,
Speaker 1: Jeff goes before man. I like too many favorites this week.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say, go go going through this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay to three and a half on the
Speaker 1: road with New England at Carolina. Uh, Belichick has that
Speaker 1: defense looking like a New England defense again. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: one thing to go and do that against Zack Wilson
Speaker 1: and Mike White coming off the bench cold. It's another
Speaker 1: thing to go on the road and make Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: look terrible. And the Patriots defense made Justin Herbert look terrible. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's playing quarterback yet for Carolina, but
Speaker 1: I've frankly don't care because if it's Donald, we've seen Donald.
Speaker 1: Donald legitimately saw ghosts against Belichick and and p J. Walker.
Speaker 1: As much as I would love to see p J
Speaker 1: Walker succeed, he has no chance against that defense. And
Speaker 1: we don't know McCaffrey. I know may or may not
Speaker 1: be there, but he's not going to be a hundred
Speaker 1: percent even if he can play in this game. And
Speaker 1: even though it's on the road with a rookie in
Speaker 1: a team that you don't see very often, Belichick has
Speaker 1: that team in the right direction and that defense more
Speaker 1: importantly looks like a New England defense again. L A
Speaker 1: three and a half on the road with the Pads
Speaker 1: at Carolina, I am jumping in because that too is
Speaker 1: my number two pick. I am taking New England as
Speaker 1: well at Carolina for much of the reasoning that, uh
Speaker 1: that Jeff came up with. McCaffrey looks like he will
Speaker 1: play in this game, but Bill Belichick will absolutely make
Speaker 1: sure that's not the guy that beats him. And if
Speaker 1: it's d J. Moore, uh, that that leaves uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to run a muck. I don't have any confidence that
Speaker 1: either p J. Walker or Sam Donald can get that
Speaker 1: done against Belichick. So it's New England laying the points.
Speaker 1: What's the number on it for US three and a half?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jinx us all because I'm going to add
Speaker 1: to that. Okay, New England was going to be my third.
Speaker 1: They've gained six points of value against the average team
Speaker 1: over the last five weeks on my chart, and Caroline
Speaker 1: has lost six points over the last few weeks. And
Speaker 1: we all know they're an entirely different team without McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, going into this season, you knew
Speaker 1: the Patriots were supposed to come in and have that
Speaker 1: strong offensive line that would get the job done, and
Speaker 1: they're they're doing it. Finally. They didn't do it early.
Speaker 1: They played Miami in that first game, and Miami was
Speaker 1: not the Miami we know them to be. Now. They
Speaker 1: had the aura, they had the confidence they did they
Speaker 1: had the players that started and got hurt afterwards. So
Speaker 1: you know, just because they played Miami, you can't make
Speaker 1: fun that loss. Uh or So, I think that they're
Speaker 1: by far the top trending team in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1: I think they're dangerous, and I think potentially if they Buffalo,
Speaker 1: you know, fell asleep, they'd catch Buffalo. It's we have
Speaker 1: to invoke the megapod rule. When three people are on
Speaker 1: the same plate, it has absolutely no chance of wading out.
Speaker 1: But that I know we are. That's score New England. Caroline.
Speaker 1: That's right, did you guarantee happen? All right? Todd, you're
Speaker 1: number two? Wait, so is that your official third pick?
Speaker 1: That's that's Chris to No, no, no, I'm still coming.
Speaker 1: There's still a couple more. My number two pick is
Speaker 1: going to be I'm gonna talk to you about bad
Speaker 1: organizations and good organizations. There are good organizations like Circus Sports.
Speaker 1: There are bad organizations like h I don't know one
Speaker 1: of those, don't Oh, I wasn't even thinking of the
Speaker 1: one you're thinking I'm not not what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: I was thinking what you were thinking. It was no, No,
Speaker 1: I know what you were thinking. I was thinking, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking that. But anyways, there are bad organizations
Speaker 1: as well, and we have the same thing in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. We have bad organizations like the Washington
Speaker 1: football team that we we we know our good friend
Speaker 1: Gilly Ice loves that organization. And you have good organizations
Speaker 1: and good organizations of the Pittsburgh Ensers. The Pittsburgh Ensers
Speaker 1: get wi is even though they have no business getting
Speaker 1: wi is because they're a strong organization. Now, I also
Speaker 1: would like to take all youens to task for saying
Speaker 1: that Ben Roethlisberger Big Ben was a bottom three quarterback
Speaker 1: in the LEIG. Okay, anyways, the point is it's not
Speaker 1: his fault. Our offensive nying is struggling. But because we're
Speaker 1: a strong organization, we have a good defense, we have
Speaker 1: a coach that knows how to get wi is in
Speaker 1: them in the John Fox way of not making mistakes
Speaker 1: and just letting the other team lose the game. We
Speaker 1: are somehow, some way, our insers are hanging around, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Insers this week, minus the six
Speaker 1: and a half against a horrible football team called at
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. That Justin Fields guy is not ready for
Speaker 1: prime time, folks. He is not ready now. Granted they
Speaker 1: scored twenty two points against the Niners, you know, have
Speaker 1: a have a hallelujah thank thank God. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: score many points against the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, our insure defense,
Speaker 1: and I will be in the crowd tomorrow on Monday
Speaker 1: Night football. Our Inser card will be at there, and
Speaker 1: our defense will shut that team down about ten points.
Speaker 1: We win this one. Picksburgh Steeler. Great organization. The imitation
Speaker 1: is way better than the Dolphins song. By the way,
Speaker 1: well done. I would saying there, I want to I
Speaker 1: do want to say one thing. When YenS get down
Speaker 1: to Heinsfield, it is kind of costly to to park.
Speaker 1: They don't try to park at the Rivers there. That's
Speaker 1: a bad organization, circus for it is a good organization.
Speaker 1: From what I've heard, the Rivers is the worst run
Speaker 1: casino in America. And I was told to me by
Speaker 1: a guy who used to work there. Thank you, um
Speaker 1: let me let me it's just ridiculous. So we were
Speaker 1: we were doing power rankings, tonight on on Primetime Action.
Speaker 1: Jeff and I do it on Numbers game on Thursday.
Speaker 1: But we were we sort of reversed and we're like,
Speaker 1: all right, give me thirty two, thirty one, thirty and
Speaker 1: twenty nine. And we came up with thirty two was
Speaker 1: still the Texans um and then we had you know,
Speaker 1: thirty one and thirty the Jaguars and the Lions. But
Speaker 1: coming up with the twenty nine ranked team. And I
Speaker 1: know Chris just said he had the Dolphins in his
Speaker 1: in his bottom couple of bottom a few, but coming
Speaker 1: up with the fourth for us was really a difficult exercise.
Speaker 1: And the Dolphins were one of the candidates. The Bears
Speaker 1: were one of the candidates too. That's what trigger Barry.
Speaker 1: You have you have Dolphins thirty one, I have Dolphins
Speaker 1: thirty two, Houston thirty one, Chicago thirty, Jets twenty nine,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville when he ate the Bears. You have Jacksonville ahead
Speaker 1: of the Bears. Yeah, yeah, wow, alright Number three from Jeffrey.
Speaker 1: On one last point, I have slowly but surely, even
Speaker 1: though his Pittsburgh team is not good whatsoever, I am
Speaker 1: slowly but surely resigning the fact that not only are
Speaker 1: they going to make the playoffs, they're going to have
Speaker 1: a chance to win the a f C North as ridiculous,
Speaker 1: have a great organization, and that again that that defense
Speaker 1: is still really good there. And and look, I know
Speaker 1: we like to rag on Mike Tomlin for in game coaching,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter who his quarterback is, what that
Speaker 1: team is. Hell, that team was a win away from
Speaker 1: the playoffs with Duck Hodges two years ago. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: I just want to say this though, Todd, because I
Speaker 1: brought this up with Lobarti this morning, that Chris Boswell
Speaker 1: fake field goal. The fact that they don't have a
Speaker 1: punter who can kick an extra point is like the
Speaker 1: most ridiculous thing ever. That dude can't it an extra point.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we still won the football game. It's hard
Speaker 1: to make those kicks. If you tried to make one,
Speaker 1: it's me we're talking. I played soccer for ten years,
Speaker 1: and the first time I ever attempted a field goal,
Speaker 1: I was so humiliated. I can't believe how much harder
Speaker 1: it is to kick a field You're comparing a middle
Speaker 1: aged june to a professional punter. I'm saying he can't
Speaker 1: kick an extra point. It's different. It's absolutely different the
Speaker 1: thirty two yard or gil It's not a chip shot anymore. Bro,
Speaker 1: he's a punter. Really, he doesn't translate to an extra point,
Speaker 1: does not? Okay, let me ask you this, uh Stefanski
Speaker 1: down five points with with all three time out? Why
Speaker 1: did he kick a f Why did he not kick
Speaker 1: that field goal? Why did he not kick? Defense? So stupid?
Speaker 1: So stupid he can kick a thirty two yarder, man,
Speaker 1: Come on, I don't think. I don't think. Apparently you
Speaker 1: can't agree with really surprised me three time outs they
Speaker 1: were stopping Pittsburgh tons on defense. I was like, kicked
Speaker 1: the damn field goal, you'd be down fifteen thirteen and
Speaker 1: then you'll get the ball back and then chance to
Speaker 1: win sixteen fifteen. That was shocking. That's defansky blue that
Speaker 1: this is the biggest thing of the NFL, like betting
Speaker 1: this pre flop a t s. It's like, you have
Speaker 1: to fight through the refs. Noticed that you know, obviously
Speaker 1: the Jets helmet to helmet on on Mike Hilton of
Speaker 1: the Bengals, the biggest call of the week in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So you have to fight through the refs. You have
Speaker 1: to fight through the decisions of the players. You have
Speaker 1: to fight through the coaches. So we've already talked about
Speaker 1: the fact that Urban Meyer did that weird thing. They
Speaker 1: weren't gonna win anyway, but like, oh, kick an extra point,
Speaker 1: then on site kicks Defanski not kicking that field goal.
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio that last sequence against Washington where they fumbled
Speaker 1: and recovered it through an incomplete pass to stop the clock,
Speaker 1: and then at that point you're just like, just nail
Speaker 1: on the ball they fumbled. It was like it was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Washington can win this game. Of course
Speaker 1: Washington is not good enough to take over. And then
Speaker 1: of course there's like the Jets players. You know that
Speaker 1: this gets lost in that whole thing because the call
Speaker 1: was so bad against Mike Hilton of the Bengals that
Speaker 1: the Jets like they Elijah more was Elijah Moore. Elijah
Speaker 1: Moore ran out of bat four, He ran out of bounds,
Speaker 1: like you stop the clock. And then Michael Carter yeah,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, with two minutes left, the BEng will
Speaker 1: still have all three of their time outs. Michael Carter
Speaker 1: slides before the sticks. You're like, you could have won
Speaker 1: the game. Why did you slide, and then the fourth
Speaker 1: and goal Mike Mike White sneaks and it looks like
Speaker 1: he's short, and the refs are like, first, we'll just bother.
Speaker 1: It seems like a wasted that's the zig zag refs
Speaker 1: with their zigzag spots. You know that this is we're
Speaker 1: betting on this stuff, all right, Jeff number three, I'll
Speaker 1: continue my favorites and uh, we'll go with the outforementioned
Speaker 1: Bengals laying two and a half at home against Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Cleveland season has been nuked by injuries. There is no
Speaker 1: argument with that. If they were healthy, I really do
Speaker 1: think they would be winning the a f C North,
Speaker 1: maybe even in the running for the one seed in
Speaker 1: the a f C with a upo breaks here and there.
Speaker 1: But this season has just been totally destroyed by injuries.
Speaker 1: And I know with if Odell beck Ode Beckham looks
Speaker 1: like he's not gonna play, it looks like the the
Speaker 1: Browns are gonna say Odell just go home. We're gonna
Speaker 1: figure out what to do with it. Said he's not
Speaker 1: He's he's gone go home. Does that work in Cleveland's
Speaker 1: advantage or does it work completely against them? And the
Speaker 1: fact that their down pass catchers again, Anthony Schwartz got
Speaker 1: hurt at the end of the game. They are getting
Speaker 1: a little healthier at the running back position with Job
Speaker 1: coming back last week. But for Cincinnati, that loss was
Speaker 1: just so bad last week where you you score thirty
Speaker 1: one points on the road against a team that has
Speaker 1: no offense going into that week, you give up four
Speaker 1: hundred and five yards passing to a guy who would
Speaker 1: get confused with anyone on the street. And Mike White,
Speaker 1: even though he played great and he had an eleven
Speaker 1: point lead with five minutes to go against one of
Speaker 1: the worst teams in the league, and you blow it.
Speaker 1: Good bounce back spot in division game, a rivalry game
Speaker 1: as well, and again clear of one. Just so banged up.
Speaker 1: That's the main reason for Cincinnati for me laying the
Speaker 1: two and a half. I almost feel like not having
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Unburdened Baker May and that could absolutely happen.
Speaker 1: We'll see um. And with all Browns games, you gotta
Speaker 1: check the injury report because they are a mass unit.
Speaker 1: You have no idea who's going to be in the
Speaker 1: lineup and who isn't Mike number three, Sir Todd, What
Speaker 1: is the line on Arizona and San Francisco. I have
Speaker 1: two and a half and forty six for Arizona favorite Mike.
Speaker 1: He's thinking, Mike, He's thinking, yeah, real spinning. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play this game over and a half. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: first game wasn't under um and I think there's several facts, Mike.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you, Mikey, I'm gonna give you forty six.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, thank you know. Coming back I think
Speaker 1: is huge for Garoppolo in that offense. Uh, it relieves
Speaker 1: pressure off of the running game, gets them to move
Speaker 1: the ball, move the chains on third downs. I also
Speaker 1: think Arizona has something to prove off their first loss
Speaker 1: of the year against Green Bay, and they do have
Speaker 1: the extra rest because they got the short rest last
Speaker 1: week playing on a Thursday. Normally I would stay away
Speaker 1: from this spot, but I just think both of these
Speaker 1: things conspire to make this game a much higher scoring
Speaker 1: game than the first affair in Glendale. Over because I
Speaker 1: have that same pick except the opposite. Oh say why okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, and here's will be under forty six and
Speaker 1: a half. It is available. Yeah, I just gave you
Speaker 1: the overt I'm gonna take the under God by the way,
Speaker 1: by the way, God after after your boy Tomlin rolled
Speaker 1: his kicker out on that horrific fake field goal. Why
Speaker 1: are they faking the field goal in a low scoring
Speaker 1: game like dead anyhow, knowing he has no one to
Speaker 1: kick an extra point and getting poor Boswell killed? USC calls.
Speaker 1: Did you hear me say he called and said okay
Speaker 1: with us? Did you hear me say I love Tomlin
Speaker 1: as a coach? No, you heard me talk about organizations
Speaker 1: we have We have an organization. We don't have a
Speaker 1: head coach. We have an organization. Mike, can't you tell
Speaker 1: like he cannot help himself, he cannot shut up. Whatever
Speaker 1: he has to say is more important than anything you
Speaker 1: have to say. Actually, there's no malice involved in Todd's part.
Speaker 1: There's no balance, Gilly. Gilly knows that better than anybody.
Speaker 1: As you sat here next to me for Wednesdays on
Speaker 1: Armed trust me Arizona San Francisco under forty six. The
Speaker 1: first game was seventeen ten. As Mikey said, I've been
Speaker 1: very impressed with the Arizona football team's defense. I know
Speaker 1: everybody loves the quarterback and he is fantastic. I love
Speaker 1: watching the jeerbug run around and do all kind of
Speaker 1: crazy stuff on offense. He's fantastic. I love the guy.
Speaker 1: But that defense is really good. You know, who ever
Speaker 1: thought Arizona Cardinals would have a great defense. It's a
Speaker 1: very very solid defense. And it's not like the Niners
Speaker 1: actually lighted up on offense. I mean, they did score
Speaker 1: thirty three last week. I'll give it to them. That
Speaker 1: was you know, Bears are not bad on defense. I'll
Speaker 1: give him credit for that. But you know what, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo doesn't scare me anymore. I mean, he had eighteen
Speaker 1: in the muck against Indianapolis. They only scored ten against
Speaker 1: Arizona last time. They scored twenty one against Seattle, seventeen
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia. I mean, come on, this is not a
Speaker 1: great offensive team. So if the Niners can keep the
Speaker 1: game low and try to slow the game down, I
Speaker 1: think we can stay under the forty six and I
Speaker 1: can pick up a game on Michael Paul most of
Speaker 1: those are though most of those Lance was the quarterback
Speaker 1: in Arizona too. When you talk about ten points, remember
Speaker 1: the wing the wing T offense won't be there on Sunday, alright, Yes,
Speaker 1: the the famous trade lands. We see alright, young Gil
Speaker 1: with the rare total? What is the what is how
Speaker 1: low is the Raiders Giants total? Forty The Giants and
Speaker 1: the Raiders are at forty six and a half. Like
Speaker 1: I said, forty six and a half. Give me the
Speaker 1: under I think everything that Mikey talked about earlier about
Speaker 1: how this is going to be a very I have
Speaker 1: a feeling the feeling around this football game is going
Speaker 1: to be very odd. As we lose Todd's beautiful face
Speaker 1: from our screen, Um, I'm going under here, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can still hear you. I think the Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Raiders offense is going to need some time to adjust here.
Speaker 1: And you know, I used to Kirt we we talked
Speaker 1: about Kirk Cousins when he played with Washington back in
Speaker 1: the day. It was very difficult when Kirk Cousins was
Speaker 1: having success in DC to know if it was Shawn
Speaker 1: Jackson's speed opening up the field so that Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: can hit Jordan Read all day every day underneath. I
Speaker 1: don't know what what happens to the Raiders without the
Speaker 1: deep threat of Henry Ruggs. Um. And again we're talking
Speaker 1: about this from a betting perspective. UM, I just think
Speaker 1: that that offense is going to take at least a
Speaker 1: week to adjust to it. And I think that the
Speaker 1: Giants offense isn't you know. Look, they're not going to
Speaker 1: light up any scoreboard. Ever, We'll have to see what
Speaker 1: the injury report is on them as well. I like
Speaker 1: the under give me the under forty six and a
Speaker 1: half Raiders Giants. Actually I like that. I'm surprised I
Speaker 1: missed that one, Gilly. I like that one to the
Speaker 1: Giants are an under team. Yeah, so those are the
Speaker 1: three al right, So those are the three best bets.
Speaker 1: Let's do our teaser of the week. I love my teaser,
Speaker 1: and of course I'm the man to beat in the
Speaker 1: teaser competition. We all know that todded right now, but
Speaker 1: go ahead by half a game? Uh, Christie, your your
Speaker 1: favorite two legs six points teaser of the week. Oh
Speaker 1: it's only six points. Uh, that would disqualify the Cowboys. UM.
Speaker 1: I would go for the Rams, which is a no brainer,
Speaker 1: no brainer. Yeah, the books are going to need to
Speaker 1: fade that one, and I would have to go with
Speaker 1: the San Francisco exactly my teaser, and that looks pretty solid,
Speaker 1: even though I'm not sure they win the game. And
Speaker 1: then I'm starting a new thing, which is the wrong wong,
Speaker 1: the wrong long. The wrong wong is I think Philadelphia
Speaker 1: could really lay a turd sandwich. I think the Chargers
Speaker 1: could show up, and my metrics don't say it. It's
Speaker 1: the strangest line of the week. What the Chargers egos line?
Speaker 1: Why is it that low? It's dead on my numbers?
Speaker 1: Is as sad as I really hate you know, you
Speaker 1: had the Chargers number one in your power rankings, and Chris,
Speaker 1: why bring up the past? Yeah, you have a love
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. That is irrational. They were never in
Speaker 1: the top ten, not one single week. Never once did
Speaker 1: they have them ninth? Now currently that's the correct answer. Ninth, ninth.
Speaker 1: They're closer to ninth from the bottom than they are
Speaker 1: ninth to the top. Stop it are Now you've gone crazy.
Speaker 1: Now you've gone a little. They are closer to ninth
Speaker 1: from the bottom. You're ridiculous. I'm not you are, I
Speaker 1: said closer to I understand. So you're saying there's six
Speaker 1: All three of us did our power rankings, that all
Speaker 1: three of us have the Chargers at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the top ten. It wasn't just me. They're nowhere near
Speaker 1: the bottom of the top ten, nowhere near. Don't you
Speaker 1: do your Football Outsiders interview tomorrow? I ask him, No,
Speaker 1: I don't do that tomorrow next week. Trust me. They're nowhere,
Speaker 1: but they're not. I don't think they're No, they're not
Speaker 1: sniffing the Todd finish. What did you say, Todd? I said,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're sixtee. They're they're probably like twelve.
Speaker 1: I would keep you, thank you. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think the Chargers could come to show up.
Speaker 1: So hey, listen, I'm rooting for him. I think they
Speaker 1: can be explosive. I have your I have your exact
Speaker 1: same teaser rams to the Niners too long legs. Anybody
Speaker 1: else have that same one? Or no? No, okay, Parlay
Speaker 1: just gonna tease two favorites down here. We'll take Baltimore
Speaker 1: down to a pick against Minnesota. I nearly laid the
Speaker 1: six with Baltimore is one of these picks here, but uh,
Speaker 1: I decided to let Mikey have have the stage to
Speaker 1: himself on that game. From that sense, and uh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna put Pittsburgh down to laying a half
Speaker 1: against Chicago. That was also a consideration, and then as
Speaker 1: soon as Todd delaid the six and a half with Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: I had to cross it off. All right, Mike, I'd
Speaker 1: like to interrupt, just for a moment before you place
Speaker 1: that check to see if a parley would be cheaper,
Speaker 1: because they're both around to fit. It could be cheaper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a hundre percent, Mike, Yeah, I'm gone. You want me
Speaker 1: to go first, Mikey, you always want me to go.
Speaker 1: That's ahead. Wait, but I interrupted you? Should I not
Speaker 1: have interrupted you? Mikey, God, you have the floor. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. I did interrupt him, but now it works
Speaker 1: in his favor, so all of a sudden he loves Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I'm going with the Rams minus to two. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you gotta do that. Hopefully Tannehill can't throw his way
Speaker 1: to victory. And I'm gonna do something a little crazy
Speaker 1: here because I did agree with a lot of what
Speaker 1: Gilly said. I'm gonna take the Chiefs minus one and half.
Speaker 1: And here's why. I watched Jordan's love at Utah State,
Speaker 1: and I remember when he's a first round pick and
Speaker 1: all the foo balls we're talking about. Jordan's love is
Speaker 1: gonna be so great. I watched me that he wasn't
Speaker 1: that great and Utah State, okay, folks, So I don't
Speaker 1: know what all the you know, the love for Jordan's
Speaker 1: love is. In fact, I like the kid who was
Speaker 1: quarter back love at San Jose State was better than
Speaker 1: Jordan's loved. So you know, I don't think he's going
Speaker 1: to be any good. And I think the Packers are
Speaker 1: mostly a team that Aaron Rodgers is good and that's
Speaker 1: why they're good. I don't really think they're that great.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is so great that he like makes the
Speaker 1: whole team great. So to me, I think even the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: with all their ridiculousness, and granted they are ridiculous, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt they're ridiculous, they can find a way against
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love to win the game by one and a half.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question about about Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: for a second. First of all, we found out today
Speaker 1: he was unvaccinated. He had said in August that he
Speaker 1: was immunized. Right he used He was very clever about
Speaker 1: the word he used, and no one really pride we
Speaker 1: just kind of assumed, and so we get the feeling
Speaker 1: now that maybe he had COVID and was just saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I got antibodies when he said I meanies. Anyway, he
Speaker 1: was unvaccinated, and so that's why he could possibly miss
Speaker 1: more than one game. He could miss a second one.
Speaker 1: And then there's also this possibility that he has broken
Speaker 1: the rules of not wearing mask right for being unvaccinated,
Speaker 1: because he was acting like he was a vaccinated player.
Speaker 1: There's a scenario where he could miss more than two games.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious what you guys think about that if
Speaker 1: that if that's realistic, or because he's Aaron Rodgers, they're
Speaker 1: gonna bend over backwards not to do this too. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, but I would bending over backwards is probably
Speaker 1: going to happen. Maybe the team knew his status at
Speaker 1: all times, so he's got a pass. They knew his status,
Speaker 1: and if rules were broken, that's on the team. Probably true. Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: I read a story that he took a nontraditional Yes
Speaker 1: right is not a vaccine, but some sort of non
Speaker 1: traditional treatment that isn't recognized. That's why he said he
Speaker 1: was immunized. Alternative virus Kids, alternative New Age. Alright, Mike,
Speaker 1: your last teaser here, Rams Ravens, Rams Ravens. I like
Speaker 1: the brevity of Mikey Rams Ravens. No explanation necessary, all right? Uh?
Speaker 1: And then Survivor? Are you in Survivor circle anymore? I
Speaker 1: mean last man standing? You're in last man standing. You're
Speaker 1: down to the Chris who knocked you out. You know what,
Speaker 1: this is the dumbest thing I've ever done in my
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh did in week two and I started the season
Speaker 1: with Houston. I took a three and a half point
Speaker 1: underdog week one, and so I was called entries. Did
Speaker 1: you start with just one? Just one? And you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that I'm out because it was a headache.
Speaker 1: It was already a headache by week two. But I
Speaker 1: already picked the Chicago Bears week two against Cincinnati, which
Speaker 1: would have which would have been a great pick also,
Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, I changed it to Pittsburgh at
Speaker 1: the last minute against the Raiders, which lost, and I
Speaker 1: deserved the big kick in the butt. I didn't follow
Speaker 1: my own advice that I preached everybody else, and I
Speaker 1: just played a win and I sat there and I
Speaker 1: took a safer team, and it was really dumb. I
Speaker 1: said that too a couple of times last year. I'm
Speaker 1: like Chris, it's easy to say when you're not in
Speaker 1: survivor what's playable, you're in it. But I learned from
Speaker 1: that because the Last Man Stand, I had Indianapolis available
Speaker 1: to me at plus two and a half or one
Speaker 1: and a half and Last man Standing, and I thought
Speaker 1: about using them this week and and Last man Standing. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, I'm sticking with the team I want to go,
Speaker 1: which I forget. Who was so so Last man Standing?
Speaker 1: For those who don't know, Chris won the college football
Speaker 1: version of Last man Standing against Stations in sixteen. Was
Speaker 1: that I believe, I don't remember. But this is the
Speaker 1: third year in a row I finished in the Final Twitter,
Speaker 1: I'm in the Final twenty. This is the pro football
Speaker 1: version Final twenty. And the four matches against the spread though, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: one game a week against the spread, one game a
Speaker 1: week against the spread. My friend Antoine from South Point,
Speaker 1: who used to sit with me at South Points in it. Also.
Speaker 1: He's he's right down at the end. He's constantly calling
Speaker 1: me and asking me if he should head you or
Speaker 1: not because he's he's down to the end. To let
Speaker 1: me this is important. If I had I had four
Speaker 1: of the remaining twenty last year, and I hedged a
Speaker 1: fair amount, if I had not dropped out and got
Speaker 1: knocked out with all four in the same I would
Speaker 1: have been buried in hedges because I miscalculated. You cannot
Speaker 1: over hedge on that, because you're not guaranteed to lose
Speaker 1: half of people there were. There was a week that
Speaker 1: nobody dropped out, and there was another week only one
Speaker 1: person dropped out. That contest lasted I think another five
Speaker 1: or six weeks afterward, and it just kept going and
Speaker 1: going and going, and I would have been screwed with
Speaker 1: my hedge commitments. So I the fact that I dropped
Speaker 1: out was a blessing. I remember you talking about it. No,
Speaker 1: no one is a smarter header than you are in
Speaker 1: these contests. I mucked it up last year, alright. So
Speaker 1: and by the way, Chris, what you're saying is that
Speaker 1: you're expecting half the people to drop every week because
Speaker 1: they're going against the spread. So it's supposed to work
Speaker 1: out that way. But it didn't work out that way
Speaker 1: because everyone got hot exactly right, exactly, so we have
Speaker 1: four teen games in the NFL. This is so Joe
Speaker 1: Peter was on a Numbers game earlier this week, uh
Speaker 1: talking about profit Exchange, the new thing that he's into,
Speaker 1: but he's in Survivor. He had three entries. We sweated
Speaker 1: out the Kansas City game together here in the studio
Speaker 1: on Monday night, and he made a great point when
Speaker 1: we were trying to figure out how many people would
Speaker 1: be left at the end of Survivor. We had this
Speaker 1: conversation about four weeks ago. He had guest over two
Speaker 1: hundred A buddy of his guest one ten I had
Speaker 1: guess and his thinking was that this past week was
Speaker 1: the last week where Survivor at Circle or Survivor anywhere
Speaker 1: was going to have a large percentage of people over
Speaker 1: entries on one team. And that's in fact what happened.
Speaker 1: And Cincinnati loses to the Jets, which took out a
Speaker 1: bunch of people. As we talked about earlier, If that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, he might end up being right with the
Speaker 1: higher side of of entries remaining at the end Instead.
Speaker 1: Now we entered this sort of splintered phase of the
Speaker 1: proceedings this week nine. You can make a case for Miami.
Speaker 1: If if Davis Mills plays for Houston, you can make
Speaker 1: a case for Dallas. If Dac plays for Dallas, New Orleans,
Speaker 1: you can make a case for them. Buffalo is the
Speaker 1: biggest favorite on the board. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and now with
Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers thing, Kansas City. Count that up. That
Speaker 1: and by the way, Indianapolis Thursday night, I forgot about them.
Speaker 1: That's eight of fourteen games. Eight of fourteen games, and
Speaker 1: that doesn't even include some of the smaller spreads like
Speaker 1: the Chargers that we were talking about earlier. That some
Speaker 1: people might decide and forget about the spreads. I think
Speaker 1: the charges are the best bet on the world. So
Speaker 1: you have potentially like nine possibilities this week. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be completely splintered. And I'm just gonna be honest right here.
Speaker 1: We're doing this one night earlier. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: I would have known tomorrow morning it either I have
Speaker 1: no idea who I'm playing this week, genuinely, and up
Speaker 1: until this point I've known every week exactly who I'm playing.
Speaker 1: I don't know no clue, Mike, You're not in it.
Speaker 1: Anybody like to bet against me that there's going to
Speaker 1: be less than people. Oh no, I think there will absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a little bit less
Speaker 1: than a hundred time. Yeah, what what would you guys
Speaker 1: put the over under it? I said, Si, I'd even
Speaker 1: go lower now I think yeah, I think Gail's number
Speaker 1: was it was about right until that upset. Now I
Speaker 1: think it might be down closer to the sixties. Thanks
Speaker 1: taking the card and it. Yeah, I think und seventy.
Speaker 1: I say under seventy. Thanksgiving and Christmas. I mean that
Speaker 1: Christmas late is just so brutal. The Sunday after Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: is the worst of all of them. There's nobody to
Speaker 1: pick that week. So what would you make the price
Speaker 1: that nobody goes twenty and know? Um, it's a dog,
Speaker 1: somebody will it's I'd say it's about a plus two.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty significant dog. Somebody's going to the whole way.
Speaker 1: Somebody's getting there. Um, I'm not sure what you guys
Speaker 1: aren't in it, But like, who if you had access
Speaker 1: to every team, knowing the Christmas and Thanksgiving rules at circa,
Speaker 1: who would you play? And let's say you didn't have
Speaker 1: the Colts Thursday. Let's make it a little more interesting.
Speaker 1: Most people don't against Houston. Who would you say, Todd Steelers.
Speaker 1: Todd was asking for the choices again, choices, because so
Speaker 1: the choices would be you want so, no, the choices
Speaker 1: would be given. Let's let's rule out Buffalo and Dallas.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that no one will take them, but
Speaker 1: let's just rule them out for the purposes of this
Speaker 1: conversation because they are Thanksgiving considerations. So it's between Miami
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Let's say you've used Indianapolis, Miami, New Orleans, Baltimore,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in Kansas City. I'll take New Orleans. New Orleans
Speaker 1: is also Thanksgiving right there, opposite Buffalo. That's right. I
Speaker 1: hadn't thought about that. They're playing Buffalo. Yeah at New Orleans,
Speaker 1: right well, the Rams host the Titans. You're certainly welcome
Speaker 1: to play them. You could, but so many people have
Speaker 1: used the Rams already. I haven't used the Rams are
Speaker 1: probably you haven't used them. You can use them week one.
Speaker 1: You didn't use them against Detroit. Nope, I still have them.
Speaker 1: So many people used them already When in doubt, I
Speaker 1: would take the Ravens this week. Yeah, Steelers, Steelers, Steelers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it works well, let me just tell you, guys,
Speaker 1: I'll be screaming, but you can't hear me in that stadium.
Speaker 1: There's fifty five thousand other people screaming with me. It's
Speaker 1: not like the college basketball games. The notion of living
Speaker 1: through a Steeler survivor play on Monday night terrifies me.
Speaker 1: It sounds like I just remember that Washington Pittsburgh game
Speaker 1: last exactly. Alright, final two questions? Then, can I interrupt? Please? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Does his mother cut the camera off at midnight? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What happened this works is my mommy has rules of
Speaker 1: how late stay. I got a special approbation this week
Speaker 1: for my mommy to go longer, but not with the camera. Sorry, Mikey,
Speaker 1: she doesn't want you on their chatting up any shicks
Speaker 1: abroads after midnight. No shicks a broads a joke for
Speaker 1: a certain portion of the audience. Alright, final two questions
Speaker 1: of the big favorites. Who is the most likely to lose?
Speaker 1: Out right? Here are your choices. Indianapolis ten and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites against the Jets on Thursday night, Buffalo
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half on the road against Jacksonville. We're
Speaker 1: using all the six and a half. We'll use all
Speaker 1: the sixes and above. New Orleans six point favorites at
Speaker 1: home against Atlanta, Baltimore six point favorites at home against Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Dallas nine and a half at home against Denver Man.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of these, Oh Miami's in this oh No.
Speaker 1: Six and a half point favorites at home against Houston,
Speaker 1: Kansas City seven and a half point favorites at home
Speaker 1: against Green Bay, the Ram seven and a half point
Speaker 1: favorites at home against Tennessee and Pittsburgh six and a
Speaker 1: half at home against Chicago. Who's the most likely to
Speaker 1: lose outright? Chris Houston nudges out green Bay by knows
Speaker 1: for me, so Miami and Kansas City. Miami nudges out
Speaker 1: Kansas City. By Kansas City, He's absolutely the most likely.
Speaker 1: It's Kansas City, that's my answer. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's Houston in Miami. I'm with Chris on that. Mikey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Dallas, Oh wow. Did this team throughout
Speaker 1: the last thirty years cannot handle prosperity. Somewhere along the line,
Speaker 1: they're gonna lay an egg this year. And I'm still
Speaker 1: not convinced that Fangio Fangio going on the road, gonna
Speaker 1: out coach McCarthy in the battle with because the two gloves,
Speaker 1: two gloves will not turn the ball over hill just
Speaker 1: check down, checked down, checked out. He won't be one
Speaker 1: of thirteen on third down? Wow, doabas? I did not
Speaker 1: expect that. And then the final question. We live in
Speaker 1: a bizarro world and we bet every single one of
Speaker 1: these games on the side, but we get to pass
Speaker 1: on one of them. So you must make a bet
Speaker 1: on thirteen of these fourteen games, but one of them
Speaker 1: where the line is so ridiculous to you you would
Speaker 1: never consider betting it. Chris, what's the game you'd want
Speaker 1: no part of? I think it's the Thursday night game
Speaker 1: I want. Yeah, it's Thursday Jets in Indianapolis. Him, don't
Speaker 1: want anything part of them, Jeffrey. I don't want anything
Speaker 1: to do with the Texans of the Dolphins and the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Mikey Chiefs Packers because I think this this love kid
Speaker 1: is just terrible. Back to pack He is really bad.
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Utah State with him. He's horrible, Mikey.
Speaker 1: How did he get picked first? How? I watched every
Speaker 1: terrible God? So, what's funnier to hear Todd with no
Speaker 1: visual It was. Actually it's like I watched a lot
Speaker 1: of Jordan's love. I don't think he's good. Uh, the question,
Speaker 1: what's the last question? Oh? My god, have you been
Speaker 1: here before? What? What gave you? Want? No part of Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't want any part of the Cincinnati against the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Bryanies because I don't you know, is Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: injured or what is the what is going on there?
Speaker 1: I don't understand the whole Cleveland Brown situation, So I
Speaker 1: don't want any part of that. You know, on the side,
Speaker 1: you could pick a few, but I'm gonna go Las
Speaker 1: Vegas and the Giants on the side, I have no
Speaker 1: idea what we're getting, no idea Giants should have won
Speaker 1: that game Monday, Vegas, everything swirling. I'll take that one.
Speaker 1: Thank you all appreciate it. I know it's after midnight. There,
Speaker 1: go to bed, Mike, you got a big day tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's a big day tomorrow for you. Congratulations. Thank you
Speaker 1: for all the gamblers out there for trying to help
Speaker 1: the large corporations in America. The casino corporations continue to
Speaker 1: do a great job for America. Thank you. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the things we're trying to do is get
Speaker 1: this stupid taxable threshold on jackpots for slots removed. That's
Speaker 1: that's to help the common person. Does that is good thing?
Speaker 1: So can you can you explain that? Can you explain that? Mikey?
Speaker 1: What is that? You know? That threshold set on taxable
Speaker 1: jack potts and slots was set in nineteen seventy seven
Speaker 1: and twelve hundred dollars and hasn't been adjusted in real
Speaker 1: dollars today. It's closer to seven thousand. We're trying to
Speaker 1: get it moved to five thousand. We're fighting it on
Speaker 1: two fronts to try to get it done through Treasury,
Speaker 1: but they're kind of punches piloting us and saying, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not us, it's got to be a law. We
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it unless Congress acts. So lobbying
Speaker 1: the legislative process as well. How does that affect the
Speaker 1: little man? Because we don't have todd Let me let
Speaker 1: me let her explain, please, Well, but's right, if you
Speaker 1: win a jack pot of twelve dollars, you're paying taxes
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, that's not even a significant amount
Speaker 1: of money anymore. In today's America because of the inflation,
Speaker 1: that jack pot threshold they have to rise as the dollar,
Speaker 1: you know, as inflation rises, So it's not fair. It's
Speaker 1: punitive on slot players compared to other other people that play.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's five thousand if you win to Jack
Speaker 1: Pott in table games, you know, it's six hundred to one,
Speaker 1: and thresholds and sports you're right, three one and a
Speaker 1: minimum of six hundred dollars if it's a sports or
Speaker 1: raise tickets. So um. You know, it just doesn't coincide
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be fair. And then from the operator standpoint,
Speaker 1: it's so labor intensive because of the large number of
Speaker 1: jackpots at d especially with the video poker. I've walked
Speaker 1: out an evening with twenty five of those. Seriously, I
Speaker 1: mean absolutely, I have hundreds of them. From Mikey doing
Speaker 1: God's work. Appreciate it. Man, safe travels back to Iowa
Speaker 1: as well. Thank you, Paul. You didn't even trademark that's
Speaker 1: my line. Gilly. Oh, I'm sorry, Todd Wishnev's staying doing
Speaker 1: God's work. My my bad. Apologies, you can't use my joke, Gilly,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you don't like it. When people use
Speaker 1: your lines on visent well, because I have fifty thousand
Speaker 1: of them and they all use them like they came
Speaker 1: up with it. That's why two photos look alike. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the best line of the night, the skype for
Speaker 1: the Skypeo icon versus Mike Falm with his arms folded.
Speaker 1: That's right, uh, for Mike Palm and d C for
Speaker 1: Todd wish them and Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, Chris, thank you, Chris,
Speaker 1: appreciated man as always. Glad we could do it this year.
Speaker 1: Probably fraud no open bar, No open bar, never gave him.
Speaker 1: I completely hoodwinked him. And Jeff Parlay producer number five
Speaker 1: and eight to grow with Cleveland Producers. And also, by
Speaker 1: the way, the host of bet Center at Visa where
Speaker 1: he pronounces his name Pearls and again we don't really
Speaker 1: know why. We don't know why. Thank you, Jeff, Jeff Perlston.
Speaker 1: They change it at Ellis Island to Parlay. They're like Parlay.
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. Good luck to all of you, thanks
Speaker 1: for listening. Good luck Week nine of that National Football League.
Speaker 1: Yeah s,