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Speaker 1: are back and we are talking here with Mark Sargeant

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Speaker 1: on Coast to Coast AM. Connie willis here talking about

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Speaker 1: flat Earth and Antarctica. Mark. So I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: get the visual again. So the Earth is flat, there's edges, Uh,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't go very deep. There is kind of an

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Speaker 1: enclosure above us. Um, are we flow? Are we in orbit?

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Speaker 1: As are we going around the sun in the moon,

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Speaker 1: or are we floating in some like a bubble on

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Speaker 1: top of the water. No, No, it's easier, it's easier

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Speaker 1: to you even think of that. Think of it like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, think of us like a terrarium on top

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Speaker 1: of God's desk. So we are in completely in closed system.

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Speaker 1: And I know the visuals are gonna be a little

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Speaker 1: tough on radio, but I'll try. Uh. Think of the

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Speaker 1: Earth if if you took a globe and you put

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Speaker 1: your hand on the North pole and you squashed it,

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Speaker 1: so the North Pole is at the center of the

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Speaker 1: dinner plate, so it's as flat as the dinner plate,

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Speaker 1: and all the other continents kind of splay out and

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Speaker 1: look pretty much like they do now on a globe.

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Speaker 1: The only exception would be Antarctica. Antarctica wouldn't can't be

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Speaker 1: this island continents sort of like Australia, and they're actually

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Speaker 1: pretty similar in size. Antartica would fit around the entire

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Speaker 1: edge like giant ice continents. And I know some people

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Speaker 1: are fond of saying the swall, you know, the whole

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Speaker 1: Game of Thrones type of thing, but it is kind

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Speaker 1: of similar. I mean, yeah, the Game of Thrones one

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Speaker 1: was much taller, but the Antarctic continent is like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, it's two hundred foots sheer wall of

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Speaker 1: ice right up you know, from the water. And then

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Speaker 1: the whole most of the continent is at least two

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Speaker 1: miles up in in altitude. It's plateau, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: an amazing continent. And then you have, you know, a

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Speaker 1: dome like structure over the top of it, a firmament

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Speaker 1: made out of and I'm using the biblical term firmament,

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Speaker 1: but you know, a dome made out of I don't know,

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Speaker 1: heavy elements, heavy water, high frequency electromagnetic field, take your pick.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's glass, but that's that's what we're

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Speaker 1: covered with. And it's fairly shallowed by comparison. That's why

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Speaker 1: I like using the sports stadium as a as a

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Speaker 1: very wide, but it doesn't have to be very high.

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Speaker 1: That sort of kind of help, right, No, no, no, so,

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Speaker 1: And and how is there a way that we can

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Speaker 1: prove it to ourselves? I mean, you know, people would say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we've been out the space, we've been on the moon.

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Speaker 1: How can you say, you know, this is how we

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Speaker 1: can prove it? Oh? Yeah, by the way, and the

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Speaker 1: sun of the moon would be inside, So it would

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Speaker 1: be yeah, the sun and the moon would be inside

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Speaker 1: and no different than a planetarium. And I know it

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Speaker 1: dates me because you know I used to go to

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Speaker 1: planetariums back in the day. You know, the planetariums is

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Speaker 1: systems that would display stars on a weekday, would do

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Speaker 1: I mean the same systems. You can project anything you

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Speaker 1: We can do in planetariums now, just about anything you

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Speaker 1: the Moon isn't two hundred thirty seven thousand miles away.

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Speaker 1: They're almost the same size, and that's why the eclipse

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Speaker 1: a coincidence. It's all part of the same system. Why

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Speaker 1: times where they go? Where? What's going on? Where were that?

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Speaker 1: What's happening to use the tom cruise line permission? Impossible?

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Speaker 1: It's worse than you know. It's not. I'm not just

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Speaker 1: saying that NASA uh faked all all the missions in

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Speaker 1: every space agency fixed missions. I'm saying that the only

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Speaker 1: keep this thing under wraps. So the rockets are built

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Speaker 1: and people say, oh, no, it can't be you're talking

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Speaker 1: about every person that's ever worked in the Nassi factory

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Speaker 1: The only if you're of anybody in the space program

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Speaker 1: aren't not at all, ignorance is bliss. And if you

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Speaker 1: compartmentalize everything, it works out really really well. The only

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Speaker 1: people that have to know are the telemetry guys a k.

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Speaker 1: The Capricorn one movie scenario where all the wrench turners

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Speaker 1: everyone that built the rockets, Hey, that's great. The astronauts

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Speaker 1: don't go on top of the rockets. They just ditch

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Speaker 1: they never go straight up. They go almost horizontal within

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Speaker 1: the first hundred miles. If you're you're looking for escape velocity,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go up. You don't go horizon. It's that's

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Speaker 1: not the way it goes. And that's that's how it's

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Speaker 1: worked so far. It's been it's been a great kept

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Speaker 1: quick stat out for you. The once Antarctica, this once

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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what men do, is try to

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Speaker 1: punch through it. Look up high altitude nuclear testing. From

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Speaker 1: in the late in late nineteen fifties, NASA was formed

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Speaker 1: because that's what you would do. You would militarize space

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine, NASA and anounced the Van Allen

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Speaker 1: The same year that Antarctic Treaty was put into place.

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Speaker 1: No coincidences, do you seal off the upper edge and

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Speaker 1: the outer edge simultaneously, one quietly, one publicly because most

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Speaker 1: people don't want to go in Antarctic anyway. But that

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Speaker 1: also keeps the private companies, the big come remember, because

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Speaker 1: NASA is just accumulation of parts from the big military

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Speaker 1: contractors like Boeing in General Dynamics and Mockeed Martin and

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Speaker 1: those guys. You don't want those companies teaming up and saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do our own space program, because it sooner

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Speaker 1: or later you've got to take the picture. Which you

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Speaker 1: also another thing. I know, I'm jumping around a bit.

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Speaker 1: There's a left of cover and not a ton of

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Speaker 1: them so long? NASA was sounded, why did they wait

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Speaker 1: They was literally the last mission Apolo seventeen, what happened

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Speaker 1: It's two generations between pictures, and they only asked because

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Speaker 1: the videos of the Earth rotating, it's access with the

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Speaker 1: weather morphing. Where is any picture of any astronaut, any

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Speaker 1: They're not there? We've leaned. People will automatically lean on

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Speaker 1: I can prove that it's a globe through the Space programs. Really,

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Speaker 1: fill in the gaps with science fiction. We fill in

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Speaker 1: the gaps with movies that we've done from the fifties

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Speaker 1: up until now, most notably two thousand one of Space

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Speaker 1: Odyssey Stanley Kubrick. That's how it started off, which was

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Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny. How oh go ahead, no, no,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. Well, it's funny that you know

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Speaker 1: it's because there's a UFOs looking at them from the back,

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Speaker 1: and you're saying, no, it's because it's the flat Earth. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it is interesting to hear that. You know, you

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for Richard Hogan. I know he's coming

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Speaker 1: and he was supposed to debate me last year, and

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Speaker 1: double tale into fat flat Earth, which is the Secret

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Speaker 1: Space Program. The two cannot exist simultaneously. And even if

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Speaker 1: secret Space Program totally real. If it was real, then

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Speaker 1: we'd have even more pictures because secret Space program could

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Speaker 1: It was confirmed because Oboma died a speech on it.

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Speaker 1: The other grass Tyson tweeted it and NASA tweeted it

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Speaker 1: the way, the second Bula Marble ever taken to space.

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Speaker 1: been sending probes out there supposedly for decades. You can't

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Speaker 1: tell me that you went forty three years without taking

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Speaker 1: a second picture of Earth. It's just it's they've they've

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Speaker 1: they've drugged their heels for as long as they could.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately the limited technology that has been allowed that

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Speaker 1: most notably high speed internet, social media, way better camera technology. Um,

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Speaker 1: And this is what most people. This had nothing to

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Speaker 1: we don't have enough time to talk about all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: We could do this for a long time. Is the illusion?

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Speaker 1: You know? Is the illusion so much that when we

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Speaker 1: In fact, compasses work the same way the magnetic mors

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Speaker 1: only one that's in question, of course, is the GPS,

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Speaker 1: GPS system is going to tell you what it wants

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Speaker 1: Where are you're going? But the distance is so great

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Speaker 1: no pilot would ever ever notice it. So it's we

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Speaker 1: want to believe it because it's what we've been told. Again,

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Speaker 1: you see the globe in your classroom, it's told this

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Speaker 1: is your home. Children don't believe in lies. They don't

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Speaker 1: why why would they? And since and and don't feel bad.

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Speaker 1: I know people are going it's like, no, I've never

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Speaker 1: been punked. You cannot punk me. Let's no, you were

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Speaker 1: born into this. This is before you and your parents

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