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The NFL 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Draft is less than three weeks away, and in today's show, 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Jay noteson and I highlight what that means heading into 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: draft night. 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 3: Our special guest today is mister Bucky Brooks from NFL 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 3: dot com. 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: He is in La with Tatum Everett discussing what the 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: Vikings show or we'll do with their two first round 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: selections in this year's draft. Let's get right to it, well, well, well, 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Episode two sixty five of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast is 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: under way, and my name is Gabe Henderson. Inside the 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: radio studio with me right now with Jaynosien from Vikings 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: dot com, our producer Eric Davidson. Tatum Everett is usually 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: in here, but she's out west in La catching some 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: of the NFL networks talent, catching some of those interviews 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: with those guys and gals and keeping you guys up 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: to date on Vikings dot com. Makesure you check that out. Actually, 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: our guest interview today comes from Tatum and our guy 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, who's at the NFL Network headquarters in LA 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: and they are discussing all things in FL Draft as 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: we are less than as we record we. 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: Are three weeks away from the start of draft. Jay. 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Bucky Brooks is always great. He's always somebody that 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: we lean on off season and during the season. He's always, 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: you know, really honest about his opinions on the way 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: things things are going and just being able to kind 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 4: of look over what their. 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: Vikings have been doing. 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: So Tatum being able to spend some time with him 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: out in La at NFL Network is awesome. We kind 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: of talked about that last week a little bit, just 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: the partnership of being able to work with NFL Network 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: so should be you know, pumping out tons of content 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 4: here and just getting all the inside information as to 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: what they think the Vikings are potentially going to do 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: here in the outcoming draft. 42 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an exciting time just thinking about how 43 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: things have transpired from the starter free agency, trying to 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: figure out if Kirk Cousins was going to resign. We 45 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: didn't know what that looked like until after the combine. 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 2: So a couple of the interviews that are coming out 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: this is kind of I guess recapping. Hey, look forget 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: everything we talked about pre combined because everything has changed 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: now the Vikings have two first round picks. A lot 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: of people are thinking the Vikings are going to go 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: quarterback in the first round. If that's the case, just 52 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: due to Kirk Cousins not being here, who was here 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: for the past six years. So trying to figure out 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: where this Vikings team stand. Jay, we can't speculate. But 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: every time I know you and I talked off air, 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: every time we turn on X or Twitter, there is 57 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: always some new Vikings news of well, this is what 58 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: the Vikings are thinking, or this is what the Vikings 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: will do. How have you assessed the vibe the temperature 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: of the theme this year versus your lifelong career of 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: being a Vikings fan. 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: To me, this is always kind of that No Man's 63 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: Land subtrifuge. There's always something spinning, and it's like, you know, 64 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 4: the somebody throws out an opinion and then you see 65 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: other people pick up on it and debate that opinion, 66 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 4: and then they're running back and forth and it's is 67 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: it this guy or is it that guy? 68 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: And what are we going to do? 69 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, typically whenever you're a team 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: that has some sort of a larger roster change, especially 71 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: at the quarterback position like we did this year, I 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: kind of look at that as like the delineation line 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: of you know, like you said, it was kind of 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: the the pre speculation too. Now the reality of where 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: we currently are. I think, you know, in past years, 76 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: when you've had higher draft picks, that's when people really 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: the noise in the chatter really starts to turn. We're 78 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: at that point now, like we were talking about, you know, 79 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: we're three weeks out from the draft, so things are 80 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: starting to really kind of come to a peak. You're 81 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: going to get a ton of different speculation from whether 82 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: it's experts or former players or current players or whatever else. 83 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 4: Everyone's going to ask their opinion, especially for a team 84 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: like the Vikings that's now looking for a quarter you know, 85 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: possibly looking for a quarterback in the draft, and on 86 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: top of that has two first round picks, so it 87 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: just kind of shows that there is intrigue and interest 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: there not only what was going to happen with Kirk Cousins, 89 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 4: but now that we know that, now that you have 90 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: those two higher draft picks, you have the ability to 91 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: kind of flex your muscles and be able to potentially 92 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: move around if you choose to. So I just think, 93 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: you know, for a lot of fans and a lot 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: of people out there, whether it's local or national, the 95 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: Vikings are an intriguing team to see what decisions they 96 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: do make here in the upcoming draft. 97 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a really good points. Just there are 98 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: a lot of burning questions. I know we were talking 99 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: a little bit just from looking at NFL dot COM's website. 100 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: Every team has a burning question that a lot of 101 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: the analysts are asking, and the number one burning question 102 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: for this Minnesota Vikings team is are they really going 103 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: to proceed with Sam Donald as QB one. We knew 104 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: that Sam Donald is one of over a dozen free 105 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: agency signings that the Vikings have had, but when you 106 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: look at the NFL perspective from a large scope, the 107 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: quarterback is usually the. 108 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: Identity of the team. 109 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: So when you think about that and you think about 110 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: what Kevin o'conno has said, about Sam Donald having understood 111 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: that they their height. They are two completely different ages, 112 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: but they've had some similarities in the past. They're high 113 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: schools that they both went to, that they both attended, 114 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: are thirty minutes apart in California. Sure, they've had numerous 115 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: conversations prior to Sam Donald becoming a Viking in the 116 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 2: fast forward to now, Sam Donald, this is his first 117 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: time having an offensive minded head coach, a guy that 118 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: or a quarterback friendly head coach that thinks the way 119 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: he does. And we've heard Kevin O'Connell say, look, I 120 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: am going to be in our quarterback room a little 121 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: bit more. I'm going to shift some of these responsibilities 122 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: on my other coaches to make sure that this next 123 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: guy who calls plays is going to have my identity 124 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: and this identity of this offense. So, answering that burning question, 125 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Sam Donald is QB one right now, what are your 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: thoughts right now? 127 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: My thoughts are basically, Sam Donald is coming into an 128 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: offense where he's got a ton of weapons around him, 129 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 4: and guy, like you said, having a offensive minded head 130 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: coach as somebody to help kind of guide and steer 131 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: where this offense is going to go. I think it's 132 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: custom set for a guy like Sam Darnold to come 133 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: in here and be able to kind of have the 134 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: entire playbook and everything kind of set at his feet 135 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: to say, you know, this is the ideal situation of 136 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: what we could get out of here. So for them, 137 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: it's going to be a process of during the off 138 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 4: season and in season trying to evaluate what they fully 139 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: got here with Sam. So like Sam is going to 140 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: be set up to be as comfortable and basically as 141 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: kind of catered to as possible when it comes to 142 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: this offense, having weapons and everything else around him, then 143 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: it just turns around to you know what do the 144 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: coaches and everybody assess as far as what they're seeing. 145 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: So for Sam, he's going to have a prime opportunity 146 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: here to be able to step into the building and 147 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: really command this offense, and it's going to be up 148 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: to him to make those moves during the season to 149 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: actually make it fit. 150 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on that. I mean, just 151 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: looking at our current roster, our current our current team 152 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: right now, like we still have three quarterback under contract. 153 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: We have Sam Donald, we have Jaron Hall, we have 154 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: Nick Mullens. Nick Mullens finished the season off strong. Last year, 155 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: Sam Donald was coming into a situation like you just said, 156 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: it's a QB friendly offense, and then Jaren Hall is 157 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: making that next step from year one to year two. 158 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: So let's say the Vikings do draft a quarterback, they 159 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: do have three other guys that they can learn from. 160 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 2: If the Vikings don't draft a quarterback, they have guys 161 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: that have played in this system last year that can 162 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: ultimately make that next step in their career. So I'm 163 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: interested to see what that looks like under this Kevin 164 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: O'Connell's game. But it's just a very interesting offseason. Like 165 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: for me personally, this is the most excited I've been 166 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: heading into the draft because there's so many unknowns. I 167 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: know we talked about this before, but when I was 168 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: in Washington and Kevin O'Connell was the offensive coordinator in 169 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, there was a burning need for a quarterback 170 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: simply due to the fact that Alex Smith unfortunately broke 171 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: his leg. He broke his leg earlier in the year. 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: We knew we were going to draft a quarterback first round. 173 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: God rest his soul. We drafted Dwayne Haskins. I believe 174 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: with the fifteenth overall pick that year and everybody went nuts. 175 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: There was a buzz in Washington because everybody was excited 176 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: about what this new leader or what this new era 177 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: of football could be under that scheme and Kevin O'Connell. 178 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: So to have Kevin O'Connell kind of redo this all 179 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: over again. But as head coach, I'm exciting for fans 180 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: that are going through this with us. 181 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: I think the whole idea for most organizations is, you know, 182 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 4: if you can find a bona fide superstar quarterback, that 183 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: sets you up for success for a longer set of time. 184 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: So again, like you said, you've got you know, three 185 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: quarterbacks that are in there. Two of those quarterbacks have 186 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: been through the system before, so they should understand how 187 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: it works, the verbiage and be able to help the 188 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: other guys get up to speed. Having Sam signed as 189 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: early as they did through the free agency period gives 190 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: him maximum amount of time to work with those coaches. 191 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: Feels like, you know, with Josh's in the quarterback room 192 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 4: kind of leading the group. He's got a ton of 193 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: experience as well as a quarterback. And you know, like 194 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: we said, your head coach is a former quarterback and 195 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: kind of understands and knows what he's looking from that position, 196 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: so he's going to be able to verbalize exactly what 197 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: he's looking for. And as per our usual, you know, 198 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: these guys are all adults. They're big boys with their 199 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: big boy pants on. It's going to be on them 200 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 4: to understand that offense and work through it as much 201 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: as possible in order to be as comfortable and as 202 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: quick as they can so that you can kind of 203 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: figure out what the identity is because it's not just 204 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 4: a quarterback position here for this team that changed this offseason. 205 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: You have a change at running back, and you've got 206 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: to you know, you're trying to figure out what's going 207 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: to going on. Sounds like Hockinson's, you know, doing well 208 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: in his rehab. He's showing stuff on social media, but 209 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: just in general, the idea of trying to get everyone 210 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: on the same page and get that chemistry going in 211 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: the offense, I think they're going to do everything they 212 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: can as fast as they can to make sure that 213 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: everyone's comfortable. 214 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 3: I'm excited. 215 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: I'm excited just to kind of see, you know, how 216 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: all the dominoes somewhat fall in place between now and 217 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: the start of the Draft which is April twenty six. 218 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: Vikings fans make sure you go to Vikings dot com 219 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: slash Draft Party to attend this year's Merlo Light Draft 220 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: party at us Bank Stadium. It is going to be crazy, 221 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: is going to be a vibe, as the kids would say, 222 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: I will be there, Jay, You'll be there right. 223 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 224 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: So it's one of those things that it's always kind 225 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: of weird before some of us because there's the stuff 226 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: going out the stadium, there's the stuff going on back 227 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: here and just trying to figure out who's going to 228 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: be where. So we're gonna be doing a ton of 229 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: setup at the stadium getting everything ready. I know that 230 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: the game presentation department has already been putting a ton 231 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: of time into it and they're they're kind of, you know, 232 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 4: buttoning everything up and then we just got to go 233 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: and set everything up to be executed. So there's a 234 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: ton of efforts going into this. And there's some different 235 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: levels as far as different packages and stuff for the 236 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 4: draft party. So you can go there and just kind 237 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: of be the rube walking around and enjoying the other stuff, 238 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: or you can go look for some of those other 239 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: extra special offers that are out there, so go check 240 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: it out Vikings dot Com Draft Party. There's a it's 241 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 4: open to the public completely at this point, and you know, 242 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: try to snag some of those special experiences because there's 243 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: some really cool stuff planned for that evening. 244 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to try to snag our producer Eric 245 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: Davison as my plus one usually doesn't attend draft party, 246 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: but this year, I'm going to make sure he's there. Personally, 247 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: I look at the draft party as I don't know 248 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: if it's like this for you, Jay, but you know, 249 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: after the last home game of the season, there's like 250 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: this lull of like nothing right. So the draft party 251 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: for me is like the first preseason game or the 252 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: first home game, because you finally get to get back 253 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: in the stadium, you finally get to be around fans, 254 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: and it ultimately makes me start looking forward to the season. 255 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: So thinking of home games, I know, the free agency, 256 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: I guess frenzy is starting to slow down, and just 257 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: looking at some of these opponents that we have. I 258 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: want to talk through some of these home opponents and 259 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: home games that we have this year and things that 260 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: I guess storylines that kind of stand out to you. 261 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: Starting with the Houston Texans. We know there is a 262 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: lot of talk right now talking about Jonathan Gernard, who 263 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: is our outside linebacker right now, who was in Houston 264 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: last year. Basically people were saying we traded him for 265 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: Daniel Hunter. Daniel Hunter is now their new elite pass 266 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: rusher down in Houston, and now those guys are on 267 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: our schedule. Add On to that, news just came out 268 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: the Stefan Diggs is the newest ride receiver for the 269 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: Houston Texans. I believe he was traded there for a 270 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: second rounder from the Bills somewhere. I believe the Houston 271 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: Texans traded a second rounder in twenty twenty five. 272 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are multiple picks that was included. 273 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and in return, the Buffalo Bills traded him to 274 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: to the Houston Sexans. So there's a lot of storylines, 275 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot of familiarity. But what stands out to 276 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: you about that opponent right now as we speak. 277 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: Danil Diggs mixing even the idea of CJ. Stroud last 278 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: year really making that jump. They've got some crazy weapons 279 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: on both offense and defense. And to me, I think 280 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: the biggest storyline going especially from last year was just 281 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: how quickly they turned that entire team around as far 282 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 4: as being part of that division within the AFC Conference 283 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: and kind of the competitive nature of it, and all 284 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: of a sudden they were shot out of a cannon 285 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: last year with CJ. Stroud at the helm and Morris 286 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: head coach. So to me, the thing about the Texans 287 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: is that it's really kind of crazy to see how 288 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: much you think, like, hey, we got these guys and 289 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: we can kind of slow roll it and kind of 290 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: wean them into this whole thing. They are not on 291 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 4: that schedule right now. It feels like they are making 292 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: huge moves to try to say, we understand what we 293 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: got here. We got a young, hot rookie quarterback who's 294 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 4: going to go on into a sophomore year now, and 295 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: we are going to make as many moves as possible 296 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: to set up this franchise not only offensively but defensively 297 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: to support that. And I think there's a huge buzz 298 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: right now in Houston feeling like they got something special 299 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 4: just starting at the front end of a new regime 300 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: for that team. 301 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. To 302 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: your point, I mean, when you have a talented quarterback 303 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: still on a rookie deal for at least two or 304 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: three more years. You can build a team, you can 305 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: gather assets and pay them big money to help fill 306 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: a few voids, to get yourself a position to play 307 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: for a Super Bowl. Well, their their window is right now, 308 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: and we saw that last year. 309 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: And I think the other thing too, that was saying 310 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: kind of the division is feels wide open. You know, 311 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like Jacksonville, Tennessee or Indianapolis are really 312 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: you know, got a stranglehold on that division right now. 313 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: So all those teams were kind of in a little 314 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: bit of an arms race trying to make some moves here, 315 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: and you saw, you know, a bunch of moves with 316 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: Jacksonville and even Indy. There's just a ton of a 317 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: feeling like right now their window is opening. I hate 318 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: to say it just because it's a comparison within our 319 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: own division, but to me, right now, Houston kind of 320 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: has a little bit of that feeling like Detroit did, 321 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 4: where they just feel like, hey, we got something special 322 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: going on right now. And that that, to me, is 323 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: is the piece for them that I think is it's 324 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: got to be most exciting for Houston fans. And you know, 325 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: I've got some family down in Houston. Just the idea 326 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: of there's a buzz now that those guys are going 327 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: to try to run, especially having guys like Tank Dell 328 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: and Nico Collins, you know, being younger as well, like 329 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 4: all three those two guys and night Ad and Diggs 330 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 4: feel like they have a ton of serious weapons are 331 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: in the wide receiver position for their offense. 332 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just going to high ad another storyline 333 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: this year with another team that we play at home, 334 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. Everyone's going to talk about Kirk Cousins 335 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: being back in Minnesota if that game is here. Of course, 336 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: we know there are there. We have a game in 337 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: London this year. There's a game overseas this fall. Not 338 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: sure which team it'll be, but there's going to be 339 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: one of these home teams that are not into division. 340 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: So it's either going to. 341 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: Be the Cardinals, forty nine Ers, Texans, Coats, Falcons, or Jets. 342 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: But speaking of the Falcons, well stands out to you 343 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: about that game. 344 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: I mean, Kirk is the number one storyline when it 345 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 4: comes to that whole idea. I mean, the thing about 346 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: the Falcons is there was a lot of questions saying, like, 347 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: you know, were they going to be willing as Arthur 348 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 4: Blank and those guys are going to be willing to 349 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 4: you know, pony up the dough to make this kind 350 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: of a thing reality. 351 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: And obviously he did. 352 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 4: But they also turn around and added a guy in 353 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: Darnell Mooney, I think, you know, Darnell Mooney and Rondell 354 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: Moore coming in at wide receiver and then Charlie Charlie 355 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: Werner at tight end. So like you can see that 356 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: a team last year that kind of struggled a little bit, honestly, Yeah, 357 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: and you know, having the new coach and then they're 358 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: they're bringing that in. They're they're also looking at it 359 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: from the standpoint of they've got Bijon Robinson at running back, 360 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: so like we have a potential superstar at running back, 361 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: we need to add those extra weapons around him to 362 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: free him up, to let him be able to have 363 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 4: a little bit more one on one matchups with linebackers 364 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: versus guys stacking the box. To me, that was the 365 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: thing about Atlanta was just the idea that they went 366 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: out and grabbed some more offensive weapons to try to 367 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: really make that a lot more potent. So a guy 368 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: like Kirk going in there if he's if he's healthy, 369 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: he's going to be able to sling the rock to 370 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: a bunch of talented guys, and a guy like Bijon 371 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: also does some damage in space, so you could be 372 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: catching a lot of swing passes. So to me, it's 373 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: gonna be fun to watch Atlanta and kind of what 374 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: that offense potentially turns into, and then see how our 375 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: defense stacks up against that. And you know, there's gonna 376 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: be a lot of familiarity there, having worked against Kirk 377 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 4: in the past in practice. 378 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm gonna 379 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: highlight just a few other teams and see which one 380 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: stands out to you. Jack. Here's when Cardinal's a home 381 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: this year, the San Francisco forty nine Ers back to 382 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: back years we played them home. And then there is 383 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts and the New York Jets. Any of 384 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: those four teams come to mind, or anything from any 385 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: of those four games that stand out to you that 386 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: come to mind. 387 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: There's two to me which are kind of a little 388 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 4: bit more of the asterisk ones for me, one is 389 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers and one is the Jets. Jets 390 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: purely because I want to see if Rogers comes back, 391 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: you know, bringing him back in the building. There was 392 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 4: always a ton of fun when the fans could kind 393 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: of jump on him with Green Bay, and he always 394 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: made our lives miserable. So I think it would be 395 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 4: a lot of fun to see a healthier and Rodgers 396 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 4: come back in here and just to see what that 397 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 4: kind of matchup would be like. He's also coming in 398 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 4: with a completely different team with that Jets. That defense 399 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: has continued this year to stack and they are their 400 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 4: front is kind of nasty, and so you know, we've 401 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: got new running back and they've got some new defensive 402 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: line play. So again, there's just a ton of moves 403 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: that have been made there with the Jets. So that's 404 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: an intriguing one to me. The other one is the Niners. 405 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: I want to see what the Niners turn into this 406 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 4: year because they lost some big names. They lost Eric Armstead, 407 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: they lost Chase Young, They you know, Darnold and Javon Kinlaw, 408 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: Charlie Warner like we just mentioned him before, and then 409 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 4: Isaiah Oliver. But they've also got ten draft picks, so 410 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 4: like the Niners were a team that you know, they 411 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 4: they had a ton of success. Again, they went in 412 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: and they added in some guys and Leonard Floyd, Yeter, 413 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: Gross Matos, He's a guy that I know that when 414 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 4: he came out draft wise, he was a hot commodity. 415 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: Devandra Campbell, Jordan Elliott, and then they signed Josh Dobbs 416 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 4: here in this offseason. So to me, the Niners are 417 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: always a tough team. I think you're going to get 418 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: a tough team again. And let's see what mister Party does. 419 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: I don't think he's mister irrelevant anymore. He's definitely a 420 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: talker for that Niners offense. So to me, it's those two, 421 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 4: given the ones that you just cited for home games. 422 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: I'm very curious to see Aaron Rodgers possibly come back 423 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: in here and then to see what version of the 424 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 4: Niners we're going to get this year, because they always 425 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: seem like they're a tough out. 426 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to have some really tough tests from 427 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: a defensive standpoint, as far as teams that have really 428 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: been stacking their defense. We know our offense has been 429 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: one of the top ten to fifteen offenses in the 430 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: NFL for the past couple of years, so it'll be 431 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: interesting to see how we fare with a new guy 432 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: under center not named Kirk Cousins, like Kevin O'Connell is 433 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: going to have his work cut out. But to your point, 434 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: we do have a lot of weapons still to be 435 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: able to, I guess, mitigate some of the risks for 436 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: whoever's calling plays or whoever's calling plays, but whoever's lining 437 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: up under center executing those plays, like Kevin O'Connell ultimately 438 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: calls moving to the AFC, I mean not AFC, but 439 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: to our road opponents, I mean, I feel like we're 440 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: traveling coast to coast all year long. Like we travel 441 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: to la to face the Ramps, Seattle Seahawks, then to 442 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: Jacksonville this is in no particular order, then to Tennessee 443 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: and then to the then to New York to face 444 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: the New York Giants. Like there are so many different 445 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: trips that we have planned this year and so many 446 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: different teams that ultimately effect you know that the seating 447 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: when it comes to playoff picture at the end of 448 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: the year. 449 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 4: And London and London into that too. So you're going 450 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: this is kind of the year where everything shook out 451 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 4: where you have the AFC South, But then you've also 452 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 4: got the NFC West. So like you said, you're heading 453 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: to la You're heading to Seattle, You're heading down to Tennessee, 454 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: you're heading down to Jacksonville. You're also then, because of 455 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: the way that it finished with the year, your NFC 456 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: NFC East opponent this year is going to be the 457 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: New York Giants, and so that's going to be on 458 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: the East coast. So yeah, you're going to be doing 459 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: a lot of bipolar flying here. Luckily, you know, for 460 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: guys like yourself who are on a lot of those 461 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: road trips, you're going to be at least in the 462 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: middle of the country, and they're three and a half 463 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 4: hour flights instead of six hour flights. 464 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: The worst flight is always the London flight. Sure, because 465 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: you're well, last year or two years ago, we flew 466 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: out Thursday night and basically they told us to treat 467 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: it like we were going to sleep or going home. 468 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: Instead of going home, you went home on an airplane. 469 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: Yea flew seven now and then landed, woke up and 470 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: it was Friday. It was like, hey, good morning, this 471 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: and that, and your body still hasn't figured out, you know, 472 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: how to adjust if the vikings are required to be 473 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: in London the entire week as the home team, similar 474 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: to how they how they've done in years pass when 475 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: they were the home team. It's going to be interesting 476 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: to see how this workflow works out. 477 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: So when we went the very first year, I believe 478 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: it was twenty thirteen when we went, I was on 479 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: that trip and I'm one of the people. For people 480 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: that know me, I'm a little taller, I'm a little bigger. 481 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 4: I do not fit well in playing seats, and so 482 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: the idea of sitting in a plane for six and 483 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 4: a half to seven hours, going to London, middle of 484 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: the night, and oh, by the way, we had just 485 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 4: lost a game to the Cleveland Browns North turning the 486 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns the night before, so we were all salty. 487 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 4: We were at the time. We were we hadn't got 488 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 4: to win yet on the season. And it's like, oh, 489 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: by the way, you're going to jump on this plane. 490 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 4: You got a little extra leg room and armor room 491 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 4: because of the people that were on the flight. But 492 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: at the same point, I couldn't sleep, and so I 493 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 4: was I was having a hard time overnight everything, and 494 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: we land and all of a sudden, we're they're at 495 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 4: five thirty six o'clock in the morning hopping on a bus, 496 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: and then we had to go to an event where 497 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: the kids were. You know, they're doing like a a 498 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: football event for the kids and they can interact with 499 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: the players, and everybody else is still glassy eye, and 500 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: I'm having to go out there with a camera and 501 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: film the whole thing. So by the time we got 502 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: to the hotel room at like four thirty in the afternoon, 503 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 4: I was gassed. I'm like, I'm not supposed to do this, 504 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 4: but I am. I gotta take a nap or I'm 505 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 4: going to die. 506 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: So that's that's the thing too, is like you take 507 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: a nap and you wake up more tired because your 508 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: body still hasn't adjusted, and then there's a Vikings event 509 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: that night that you have to be on for. So 510 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: to that point, it's like you land I remember last 511 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: year I was with the KFE in Guys. We landed, 512 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: and when you get off the plane get on the buses, 513 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: there was there was a sprinter in front of the 514 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: four buses that took the team to the hotel. We 515 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: made a right to go to the city. The buses 516 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: made it left to go back to the hotel and 517 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: it took us about an hour to drive ten miles, 518 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: so you're already tired from being in a car. But 519 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: it's also like, hey, let's figure this out, because when 520 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: we get to this destination, everybody is about to be 521 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: on So it's exciting, but it's also a draining trip 522 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: in a good way. 523 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 4: Some of my favorite blackmail photos that I currently have 524 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 4: for some of my long term colleagues here come from 525 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: that trip because of people passed out on those buses. 526 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: You know, these guys with a face pillar and they're 527 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 4: just planted into the seat in front of them and 528 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 4: things like that. So it's always it's a fun trip. 529 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 4: It's an interesting trip, I think. You know, there is 530 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: the debate, Like you said, you guys went on a Thursday. 531 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 4: It is a debate to go earlier do you go later? 532 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: I know with us now being the home team instead 533 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: of the way team, typically there's more responsibilities that way 534 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: while you're out there. 535 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 536 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: I got to say though, for me like that, that 537 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 4: London trip, that first London trip that we took when 538 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: we played the Steelers, is probably in my top three 539 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: moments of being a Vikings employee, purely because it was 540 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 4: such a unique thing. At Wembley Stadium, but the atmosphere 541 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 4: is great, everyone's geeked. London rolls out the red carpet 542 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 4: for those kind of events. So for those people that 543 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 4: have the opportunity to possibly or go or are thinking 544 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: about it, I'd highly recommend it. It's just it's an 545 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 4: interesting thing for to think about the celebration of the 546 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: NFL over in London, and I think whomever our opponent is, 547 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 4: you know, coming up here this year, I think it's 548 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: going to be a really fun opportunity for fans to 549 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: be able to enjoy kind of rolling out the red 550 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: carpet or the purple carpet there in London here this 551 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 4: year for the Vikings. 552 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: I didn't get hired here until twenty twenty, so I 553 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 2: can only imagine how that game was in Wimbley For 554 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: me personally, being a boxing fan and being a new 555 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: soccer fan and have seeing all the matches and events 556 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: that have taken place at Wimbley and to be a 557 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: part of a football event at that stadium, that that 558 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: had to be nuts. Like just being at Tottenham Hotspur 559 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: two years ago and you know, seeing how that stadium 560 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: is built, it is beautiful. 561 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: For me. I still felt like. 562 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: Man, like, I wonder how that how that year was 563 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen when you're you know, in the presence 564 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: of just I don't know, like when I go to 565 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: Green Bay or when I go to lambeau Field, I 566 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: feel the great buildings. Yeah, so like Wimbley is that 567 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: for me? So I can only imagine how that was. 568 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot of fun. 569 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 4: And like I said, it was kind of a weird 570 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: deal where you know, Pittsburgh Steelers and the Vikings were 571 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: supposed to be two premier franchise at the point we 572 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 4: were both over at the time, which is kind of crazy. 573 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: But the whole point of it is like, for me, 574 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 4: the idea of this, like you said, you know, going 575 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 4: to Tottenham, you know that you're in one of the 576 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 4: premier facilities within the world at this point just for everything. 577 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 4: And they also set it up so that it would 578 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 4: be NFL friendly, which is great. So again you're if 579 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: you are a fan and you you're somebody that has 580 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: the opportunity, whether you're a fan or a player or whatever, 581 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: to go to this event. I highly recommend trying to 582 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 4: be able to make that happen in whatever capacity. 583 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 2: It's the best sporting experience I've ever been to them 584 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: well second second best sporting experience I've ever. 585 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: Been to in my life. 586 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: I went to a Canelo went to a Canelo fight 587 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: at at and T Stadium a couple of years ago 588 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: and that was nuts. But the game at Tottenham Hotspur 589 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two was the best football experience I've 590 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: ever had. And for fans listening whatever, Jay just said, 591 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: this is a must go or must see event that 592 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: you have to be there. So tickets will be going 593 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: going so soon. We'll know our opponent soon and when 594 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 2: that game will be. But in the meantime, we did 595 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: have a Tottenham Hotspur legend here earlier this week, mister 596 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: Letley King, who was voted by the Times as the 597 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: twenty fifth best player in Tottenham history. He was here 598 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: and he's doing a tour of the NFL teams that 599 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: are playing games in London and it was pretty cool 600 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: to talk to him in here his perspective and if 601 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: you haven't been on Vikings dot com to check out 602 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: some of those interviews with him, you should because he's 603 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: hyping it up and he is, I guess, starting to 604 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: understand how the game has grown. 605 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: At his country, sure, and I know that. 606 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 4: You know, our biggest Tottenham Hotspur fan that I know 607 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: with in the building is CJ Ruine. 608 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: Unfortunately CJ was gone for the day. 609 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: He was Crestfall and he's like, no, you got to 610 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: try to get an autograph for me. 611 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: You know. 612 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: I think, like you said, the growth of the NFL, 613 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 4: especially in places like Todd them at their new facility. 614 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: I had been to their old facility and the thing 615 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 4: that's always struck me about Tottenham was there have been 616 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 4: tons of comparison saying Tottenham and the Vikings are, we're 617 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 4: on a similar path. Their old stadium was kind of 618 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: like the Metrodome. New building is set up like US 619 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 4: Bank Stadium in some ways, and so to have a 620 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 4: guy like Leslie King come over, I think the thing 621 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: that's going to be really fun is knowing that for 622 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 4: like the next you know, six to eight months at 623 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 4: this point, depending on when that game actually kicks in, 624 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 4: we're going to be able to kind of expose them 625 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: and they're going to be able to provide some insight 626 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: from over in Europe as kind of to where the 627 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 4: game is currently. I think having a guy like Justin Jefferson, 628 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 4: having whoever we draft, you know, with these higher draft picks, 629 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 4: being able to kind of showcase that on a global scale, 630 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: it's something that we've been trying to do as an organization. 631 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a lot of fun 632 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 4: to see just how much it embrace people embrace it. 633 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 4: The thing that always stood out to me the most 634 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: about those Lendon games was it's not even necessarily you're 635 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 4: going to have a ton of Vikings fans that are 636 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: gonna come from Europe, whether it's some of the Scandinavian 637 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 4: countries and everything coming over because it's closer. But the 638 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: bigger thing is it's almost just a celebration of football 639 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: and you'll see jerseys from everybody. To me, the thing 640 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 4: that's going to be great about it is having guys 641 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: like Ledley King and then being having access to some 642 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 4: of these other guys that we're going to guys and 643 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: gals that we're gonna work with leading up to that game. 644 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: To be able to talk to them from the UK 645 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: and some of these other global markets. It's going to 646 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: be a lot of fun to kind of pick their brains, 647 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: see what they think, and then be able on the 648 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: flip side just to kind of get a different perspective 649 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: on what the NFL means at this point. 650 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: Well, there's gonna be a lot of jerseys in the 651 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: crowd in Tottenham Hotspur, a lot of Vikings jerseys in 652 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: the crowd at Tottenham Hotspur whenever that game is announced. Well, 653 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: before we get to that game, we have to get 654 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: to the NFL Draft, and that is about. 655 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: Three weeks away. 656 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: And helping us break down who that selection might be 657 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: is our friend mister Bucky Brooks, who's out in LA 658 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: with our own Tatum Everett. 659 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: Let's check it out, joined the NFL Network analyst Bucky 660 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: Brooks on the set of Path to the Draft. We're 661 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: only a few weeks away. Bucky, what are you most 662 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: excited to see when everything evolves on April twenty fifth. 663 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: I think it's all about the quarterbacks. 664 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 5: I mean, there's so much conversation and discussion about the 665 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 5: quarterbacks in this draft class. Not necessarily that when the 666 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 5: Golden era quarterback play, but the fascination over whether it 667 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 5: before quarterbacks taken within the top five. Everyone loves Caleb Williams, 668 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 5: but we also have this intrigue over Drake May, Jayden 669 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 5: Dames and JJ McCarthy. How those guys are going to 670 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 5: come off the board, which ones are going to play well? 671 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 5: All this stuff makes the draft very very. 672 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: Intrigued, with Caleb Williams being a very big favorite as 673 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: the first pick out. I think amongst many people doing 674 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: mock drafts, when you look at a guy like Drake May, 675 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: who you have recently said as a prototype of a 676 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: quarterback on path to the draft, what made you think 677 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: about that and really kind of want to target that 678 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: about Drake. 679 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: So coming into this year, Kayla Williams and Drake May 680 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: were look they were dying for the QB one spot 681 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: in the draft. Caleb had a better final season, Drake 682 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 5: May fell off a little bit. But drafting is about projection, 683 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 5: not necessarily about production. And when you look at the 684 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 5: projection of Drake May, you see the prototypical size, arm, talent, athleticism, IQ, 685 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: great dude in the locker room when it comes to 686 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 5: leadership skills, and so as you're projecting forward, he probably 687 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 5: has the highest ceiling of any quarterback in the draft. 688 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 5: And so what you're trying to see is do we 689 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 5: have a situation that will allow him to flourish? Because 690 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 5: if you hit you're talking about a guy who has 691 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 5: talent like a Josh Allen and a Justin Herbert. I 692 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 5: think if you ask many decision makers, they'll gamble on 693 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 5: a player that has that kind of upside. 694 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: There is a fine line between the top tier quarterbacks 695 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: and the ones that you can get later on that 696 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: have talent as well, but maybe not in that top tier. 697 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Where does that line exist for you? And who would 698 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: you consider someone to trade up for as opposed to 699 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: someone you could sit back for. 700 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 5: So I think they are a couple of different tiers 701 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 5: at the top and so tier one we talked about 702 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 5: the four quarterbacks Kaylen Williams, Drake May, Jayden Daniels, JJ 703 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: McCarthy in any order, and the two additional guys bow 704 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 5: Knicks and Michael Pennix that are just a notch below them. 705 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 5: And bow Knicks you're getting like both guys, you're getting 706 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 5: very experienced players, but they played the game differently. Bo 707 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 5: Knicks is more of an intermediate specialist, where Michael Penix 708 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 5: wants to push the ball down the field. Depending on 709 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 5: the scheme of your offense, those guys would fit. The 710 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 5: next year really features a guy Spencer Rattler, Spencer Rally 711 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 5: coming out of South Carolina is a guy who look, 712 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 5: he was the starter at Oklahoma before Caleb Williams of rot. 713 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 5: He's a guy who was the number one quarterback in 714 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 5: high school when he came out. He has a lot 715 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 5: of talent, made his way to South Carolina finished his 716 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 5: career in a very solid fashion. He is the value pick, 717 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 5: and so when we think about bow Knicks and Michael Penix, 718 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 5: there's a pathway for those guys to be taken in 719 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 5: the first round. If you don't take one of those guys, 720 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 5: then I think Spencer Ratler on Day two is going 721 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 5: to be the first option to come. 722 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: Off the board. 723 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: When you say value pick, what do you mean, Well, I. 724 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 5: Think with value pick meaning I don't have to give 725 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 5: up additional draft capital to move up and get them. 726 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 5: I'm willing to sicken, pick, sit, and pick, and I 727 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 5: feel good about what they could be in our system. 728 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 5: A lot of it depends on with all these quarterbacks, 729 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 5: what environment are they going into, what kind of playmakers 730 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 5: do you have around them, the pass protection, who's the 731 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 5: play caller in those things? In Minnesota, it's really set 732 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 5: up where if you can find that superstar potential player, 733 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 5: yes that's great, But if you need someone that is 734 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 5: more of a menagerial type. You can get away with 735 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 5: that in the short term. So a lot of it 736 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 5: just depends on as you're looking at the draft and 737 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 5: you're evaluate in the quarterback position versus other positions, who 738 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: is the best pick for the team. 739 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: At that point looking at your current mock draft, which 740 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be several drafts before we actually get 741 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: to that point. JJ McCarthy was a name that you 742 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: threw out there as the Vikings taking at number eleven. 743 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: Is that a value pick for them? Yeah? 744 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 5: Look, I think so. There's been some conversation around JJ 745 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 5: McCarthy being a top five pick, and he may be 746 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 5: a top five pick, but in terms of as a player, 747 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 5: I don't think he would rank as a top five 748 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 5: player in this draft that we took all the positions 749 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 5: in those things, that's it. He's really intriguing because he 750 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 5: comes from a winning program twenty seven and one at Michigan, 751 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 5: great leadership ability, great intangibles, He's willing to kind of 752 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 5: sacrifice his own individual success for the team. And then 753 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 5: when you look at the talent, terrific arm talent, great athleticism. 754 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 5: What he doesn't have is a large volume of past 755 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 5: attempts to be able to say, hey, I'm ready to 756 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 5: see this guy play at the next level. Really good 757 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 5: prospect at a value pick you talk about at eleven, 758 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 5: he'll be a nice fit. 759 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: So if they get the value at eleven and then 760 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: they hold on to that twenty three pick there in 761 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: the first round, which direction do they go? 762 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: Then I think they have to go on defense. 763 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 5: And when we're talking about defense, we're talking about versatility 764 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 5: guys that can plug and play multiple positions. Think about 765 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 5: Iowa defensive back Cooper Degene. He's a guy who has versatility. 766 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 5: He can play outside, he can play in a nickel, 767 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: he can play safety. As I'm looking at Brian Floyd's 768 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 5: defense and I'm thinking about how much pressure he brings 769 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 5: and how much of responsibility he puts on the secondary. 770 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 5: It takes hot, iq and versatile guys to play in 771 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 5: that back end. Cooper Degen could certainly be a guy 772 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 5: who could contribute and play. 773 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Right away, I'll rap the interview up with this last question. 774 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: I feel like, personally, I've been seeing all of these 775 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: jockeying of quarterbacks at the top and not knowing where 776 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: teams go, and a lot of trade talks. Is this 777 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: one of the more exciting first rounds of the NFL 778 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: Draft that you've seen in recent years? Yeah? 779 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's exciting because there's so much uncertainty. 780 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 5: Like some years you can go into draft and you 781 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 5: can just close your eyes and pick the first five picks. 782 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 5: This draft is different because you have all the quarterbacks 783 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 5: at the top, but you have a bunch of teams 784 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 5: that need quarterbacks. So which teams are going to aggressively 785 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 5: find a way to get into top five so they 786 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 5: can be arranged to get a quarterback, and which teams 787 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 5: are going to take these guys in order. I think 788 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: the fascination comes from we have speculated for like most 789 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 5: of the year there's gonna be Kayla Williams and Drake May. 790 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 5: But is Drake May really going to be number two? 791 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 5: That's why we have tune in draft week and to 792 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 5: see who's gonna be the second quarterback off the board. 793 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: That's true, You'll tune on in April twenty fifth Bucky 794 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: Brooks with past the Draft. Make sure to watch his 795 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: show on NFL Network or NFL dot Com to get 796 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: ready for the big week. 797 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 3: Always good to hear from Bucky Brooks. 798 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: I've known Bucky since us what's seven years old, and 799 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: he's he's a legend in my hometown of Raleigh, North Carolina. 800 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: So he just has a wealth of knowledge, and whenever 801 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: he shares that with us, I just become a student 802 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: of the game. 803 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, I love that guy. It's always good to 804 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 4: hear his perspective. He's got it, like you said, a 805 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 4: ton of knowledge. And so Bucky's always somebody it feels 806 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 4: like he's fair, you know, in his assessments of everything, 807 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 4: and so you know, for you're lucky enough to have 808 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 4: been exposed to him that long. Yeah, and so it's 809 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,959 Speaker 4: kind of probably got to be kind of fun full 810 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 4: circle to be able to be, you know, working with 811 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 4: him in kind of a colleague with him. 812 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, He's a legend for sure. 813 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: And Vikings fans make sure you go to Vikings dot 814 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: com to check out all the interviews happening at NFL 815 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 2: Network this week. 816 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 3: Jay. 817 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: That gets us pretty much in position to start hyping 818 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: up this draft party, which is on April twenty fifth. 819 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: Doors open at five pm Central Time at us Bank Stadium, 820 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: and there's going to be so many activations for fans 821 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: to be a part of that night. 822 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts just. 823 00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: On the excitement, the planning, the process heading into the day, 824 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: April twenty fifth, at us Bank Stadium. 825 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, like we talked about earlier, there's gonna be a 826 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: ton of stuff going on, kind of similar to what 827 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 4: you were talking about. The thing about Draft Party for 828 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 4: me is it's almost like the unofficial kickoff FanFest, you know, 829 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 4: finally fans getting excited, being able to kind of anticipate 830 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 4: and kind of everyone's kind of tends to walk into 831 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 4: that building having anticipation of what they think is going 832 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 4: to happen. I think the Draft Party is going to 833 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 4: be amazing and they always blow it out as best 834 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 4: as they can. Tons of legends, probably tons of legends 835 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 4: and current players that they're going to try to have 836 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 4: there at the event. And the great thing is always 837 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 4: going to be having the cafe and live broadcast going 838 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 4: on too. So again, check out vikings dot com with 839 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 4: at the Draft Party site and on the page it'll 840 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 4: have everything you need to know about possible ticketing and 841 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 4: again just you know, get yourself in the door and 842 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 4: enjoy the evening and hopefully we'll be finding out if 843 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 4: we've got some you know, possible budding new superstars here 844 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 4: on this roster. 845 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: Two first round picks this year, we got a lot 846 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: of flexibility on what we can, what we will or 847 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: what Vikings fans think we should do with that. But 848 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: we know we can't speculate here. But what we can 849 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: do is provide content. And we know a lot of 850 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 2: Vikings fans are going to be hoping that the Vikings 851 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: drafted quarterback with well somewhere in the first round. So 852 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: what Pete and I will be doing next week is 853 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: breaking down some of the top quarterback draft prospects film 854 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 2: heading into draft night. So we don't know if they're 855 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: going to select them, but we're going to give fans 856 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: an opportunity to see how each quarterback that we highlight 857 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: fits into this Kevin O'Connell scheme if that's what the 858 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 2: Vikings decide to go with their first overall selection. 859 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 4: And to kind of understand, you know what the hype 860 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 4: is all about. You keep hearing all these names. There's 861 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 4: a bunch of names that are out there. This is 862 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: potentially one of the deepest quarterback draft classes in history, 863 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 4: and so for you guys to be able to do that, 864 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 4: I love watching you guys do that because I think 865 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: it really does kind of help people understand the good 866 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 4: and the bad side of, you know, what they have 867 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 4: in their game. And so I look forward to seeing 868 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 4: you guys be able to put that kind of stuff 869 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 4: out because I think it's going to be really helpful 870 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 4: for a lot of people. 871 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so just another way for fans just to understand 872 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 2: the game of football. Like Jay, you love the game 873 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: of football. Also, we love our jobs, but still to 874 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: be able to break it down and help fans understand 875 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 2: how to consume it. I think that makes a greater 876 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: fan base and it gives you a deeper love and 877 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 2: appreciation for your favorite team. But Film Room is not 878 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: the only thing that's on Vikings dot com. There is 879 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: a lot more. We got Pick six, like I said, 880 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 2: we got Tatum's interviews, but also there are some international 881 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: content that was filmed yesterday that our Lifestyle and Helmets 882 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: off team film, which will be on our all of 883 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: our social and digital platforms. 884 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 3: So make sure you check that out, Jay, what else 885 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 3: am I missing? 886 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 4: Last thing for me is just the idea of Draft Weekend. 887 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 4: You know, one of the things that we've taken pride 888 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 4: in over the years is being able to break everything 889 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 4: down and kind of give fans an inside look as to, 890 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 4: you know, something more than just the surface stuff that 891 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 4: potentially comes out here for the draft. So as excited 892 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 4: as everybody is, we're always excited for Draft weekend to 893 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 4: be able to put out a bunch of podcasts, tons videos, 894 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 4: signing ur rivals. Behind the scenes, everyone is really hungry 895 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 4: to find out who the new potential superstar is on 896 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 4: this roster. So just also with the anticipation coming up 897 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 4: here in three weeks, that's that is one of our 898 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 4: huge go times, and so we always get super excited 899 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 4: for that Draft weekend, and we hope you are too 900 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 4: with anticipation looking forward to what we got coming. 901 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 3: What is it? 902 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 2: We got two or three more MVP recordings until we 903 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: actually know who our first round draft pick. Two more 904 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: and then it's then it's Draft night. So yeah, let's go. 905 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: Vikings fans, make sure you stay tuned. So much excitement, 906 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 2: so much to know heading into Draft night. 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