WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: That One Hurts 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.120 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:13.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:18.400 Player's laud broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:24.200 the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, heck 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:34.560 Ma Harrison and knew he scrugs. Let's right, it's Monday, 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.320 Monday right here it is, and the players brought to 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.040 you by TOSTI. Does we've got heck Ma Harrison here, 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.360 Barry Church, I'm do scrugs. All right, Cowboys go down 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:49.800 twenty six seventeen last night in Philadelphia, and whenever the 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.000 game ends, we all have an initial just thought, ok, 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.320 just a reaction to it. Church, what was your thought? 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:57.800 What was your reactions to? We'll go around the room 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.840 by see. I'm sorry, I do not want to interrupt 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.360 none of this. What's up with y'all? What's happening right now? 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.040 What you're talking about? Y'all? I mean, for real, everybody 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.280 in the parallel universe right now? What's going on? Man? 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.880 What a tasty cake at the little we Finally last 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.280 night was enough? Man? Y'all thought last night last when 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.320 did y'all get together and have a power wow about this. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.880 This is separate line. Y'all gotta say, Okay, man, that's 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.440 that's all the medicine my boy needed, you know, that's it. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:32.240 That's all that's all he did. Man, go right ahead, y'all, Okay, cool, 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.480 We're gonna we're gonna do offense, We're gonna defend. And 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.040 it's really just just you know, when the game in 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.120 especially you'd beat the former player to the game, and 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.400 what's what's your first thought? What stuck out to me 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.440 the most. I'm gonna tell you what stuck out to 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.160 me the most about this game. Man, I'm looking a 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.040 defensive side of the ball. Um. I feel as though, 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.560 for the first time and probably two years since he's 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.200 been here, I felt like when got a coach man, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.280 I felt like he got on coach. It was kind 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:58.880 of like a prize fight out there. It was, you know, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:04.080 punch counter punch, punch CounterPunch. But I don't feel like 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.920 he ever had the answer. All right. They did what 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.680 I thought they would do to Michael Parsons, which has 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.840 put him in the RPO. Forced him to make a 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.760 decision out there. He can't just come off the edge 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.679 chasing people down getting these quarterbacks, say we win' gonna 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:16.840 let him do that. We're gonna make them think a 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.000 little bit out there. And Philadelphia did a hell of 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.120 a job doing that. They presented them with that RPO, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.960 that run pass option all night long and had him 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.680 thinking about it all night long. And that slowed Michael 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.120 Parsons down all right, that slowed him down a little bit. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.239 But then second half comes around, dan Quinn makes a 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:34.720 little bit of adjustment. He starts to heat up. He 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.200 starts to heat up Hurts a little bit. He starts 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:37.519 to heat him up. And it worked. You know, that 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.960 first drive coming out of a halftime three and out, Boom, 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.960 they get the ball back to Dallas. But then Syrianni 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.400 and the Eagles after that drive because Doubts took up 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.560 the whole third quarter with that long ass drive or 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.960 that long drive from for a Cooper rush. But when 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.960 the Eagles got the ball back Syrianni, they went right 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.280 back to the ground game. And something that's been a 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.519 check in this a chink in this armor for the 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.160 past two years, people running being able to run the 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.160 football on the Dallas Cowboys. And necessarily it wasn't Hurts 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.000 that was doing all the damage. Miles Sanders got involved, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:12.440 Kenneth gettingwell, Gangwell got involved. Bart Scott that Bart Scott, Yeah, 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.920 number thirty five something Scott, last name Scott, Boston Scott, 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.400 Boston Scott. He was getting involved in it as well. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.400 And I feel as though when they did that, Quinn 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.639 had no answer to it. He had no answer to it. 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.480 So when they come back around, I'm sure he'll be 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.639 in the lab and he'll get going again. But to me, 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:29.560 I felt like he got out of coach. And that 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.040 was the biggest thing that stuck out to me because 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.000 if we look at it, that very first drive, Philly 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.480 came out high. What was they doing. They were doing 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.360 that RPO and having a j Brown cross face on Parson, 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.840 slowing him down even more wide opened a couple of 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.720 times touchdown. He never really got ahold of that play. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.120 To me, that's what stock out the most. Man. He 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.280 got out coach. Now he's still having a coach, he's 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.000 still you know, the mad scientists out there. But he 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.920 took a little bit of a hell yesterday. Heck, you know, 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.840 I in a way that I didn't expect for the 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.880 scheme to be too much for our defense. I think 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.240 that's where I was kind of surprised, uh, And I 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.600 have to give kudos to them and how they approached 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.840 Michael Parsons, and I called it paralysis by analysis. You know, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.520 you got a guy out there, he's thinking too much. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.880 And if you don't see the wildcat with a quarterback 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.960 that's what I called RPO every week, then you know 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.120 that you have to ask yourself what's going what's my responsibility. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.080 It's like anything if you're watching high school football, watching 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.560 college football, someone has that triple option. You don't see 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.200 it every week. So therefore it's hard for you to 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.400 scheme for it during the week, right because you don't 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.800 practice against it. So going up against the Lions, you're 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.440 not gonna see these guys come out in any RPO 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.000 look to that extent that they were running it. I 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.320 thought the defense in the first quarter did a pretty 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:49.040 good job, but it was ben don't break situation that 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.800 was happening with our defense. But I think once the deep, 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.479 once the turnover started to happen, that's when the field 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.599 position got flipped and it was it was game on 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.880 after that, you know, And so I have to give 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.200 them credit for knowing where our weaknesses were going to be, 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.880 and they circled the one guy that we believe it 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.880 is our strength, and they made Michael Parsons instead of 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.240 him being able to throw caution to the wind and 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.600 just barrel down and go right out to the quarterback 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.039 there he was studying in real time and it slowed 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:22.360 him down. And you mentioned the boxing match, and my 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.600 first thought was, Okay, they came out they Philadelphia. They 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.839 came out here ready to go. And I don't think 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.960 the Cowboys were just ready for all that intensity that 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.160 was in the building. I talked to a couple of 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.760 folks who with the game I did not go to Philadelphia, like, okay, man, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.160 this place was loud. These dudes ready to go. They 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.359 remember that fifty spot the day ate last year, so 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.960 they were ready to go, and they came out firing. 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.159 To me, you look at some of the numbers here, 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.599 it was kind of favorable along the way. But I 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.040 spoke last week about third down guys. Did the Cowboys 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.800 third down conversions not as high twenty ninth in the 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.839 league versus Phillies Last night? Third downs four of ten 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:06.799 for Dallas Philadelphia six or fourteen. So much of football 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.960 is decided on third down, So you lose a third down, Uh, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:15.040 you lose that that battle three turnovers in Philadelphia, you 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.960 can't that. You know, you didn't get one coboys, Deefen 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.400 didn't one at Also, that's as you lose third downs, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:21.840 you lose the turnovers and you go to time of 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.680 possession thirty four minutes for Philadelphia. These are the things 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.560 that we said, Okay, this is what Dallas can't do. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.919 I mean it's just overall as a team, you know. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:35.680 And then ten penalties, guys again, ten penalties. I mean 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.120 the things that you just can't go on the road 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.000 to a good football team and do. No. You might 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.080 be getting you get away and beat Cleveland with that 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.440 and Carolina like that, but you're not gonna beat Philadelphia 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.839 that way. So I looked at this. I just said, okay, 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.640 these are the things that happened. If I if I 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:54.320 am Dan Quinn and Mike McCarthy today, you know you've 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.480 got some things to work on. But you gotta feel 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.360 good from the standpoint. These dudes got down twenty three 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.080 twenty nothing. Battle back they did? They battle? I give 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:09.800 them they battle back. Um, I just don't feel the 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.880 sky is falling. Some folks are just pessimic. Okay, On, No, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.760 you ain't gonna go sixteen to one. Go on, Sky's 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.880 definitely not falling. I mean, I mean it is definitely 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.760 not worked to be done here, of course. And when 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.600 you talk about penalties, the thing that just frustrated me 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.920 the most, man, it was it's the controllables. Look at 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.440 the controllable penalties that's always there, man, Like, that's the thing. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:33.400 I'm like, you're Dante Foller. Come on, man, this is 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.360 the second or third time in the year you don't 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:36.920 did this? I mean, did you not want to come 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.720 out of the screen on Dante Fla, it's not something four? Yeah, 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.840 that's fourth. I'm going to call that situational awareness. Are 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.280 they gonna go forward on fourth and four? Probably not. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.120 It's not gonna. It's not gonna happen. Uh. And there's 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.920 no excuses for that, really are And I think you know, 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.320 back to what you were saying, knew it Like the 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.800 penalties are maddening, especially the special teams penalties. When you 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:02.680 have those convnted Turpin is on his way and you 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.000 have great feel position or good enough feel position, and 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.240 you have a penalty and you set your offense back 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.320 which is not good enough to have those kind of 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.760 things happen. Yet, you know, you have to give Cooper 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:18.280 Rush every advantage on the football field. He cannot be 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.480 in a situation where he's starting a drive from the 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.480 ten yard line and you're expecting him to go ninety nah. 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.600 You know, we want to set him up to be favorable. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.760 But the a penalties, man, were maddening. The one that 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.840 really like took me off the over the edge was 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.480 the one with Michael. I'm just like, I'm like, Michael, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.000 you can't. You can't do that in a situation where 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.679 you get to stop, you get to stop, you get 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.840 everything that you need and then you get taunting a 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.800 penalty that and you give them new life. That's that's hard. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.920 And that's where you know, kind of his age showed 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.760 a little bit there right there. He's kind of young still. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:55.959 I mean, I understand it's hype. You know, emotions are 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.199 going to The lead up to this game was outstanding, 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.240 you know, both sides going back and forth, so you 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.240 knew there was gonna be some hype to it. And 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:03.679 he made he made a heck of a play. You know, 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.240 Gardon one of the best tight ends in the game 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:06.840 and got her make a heck of a play. And 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.320 as a player, you want to let him know that 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.120 I'm here all day, all right, You're gonna see me 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.720 a number eleven all day. But but you gotta do 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.760 it in a more subtle way, I mean an experience. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:16.400 He'll be able to understand how you do that. You 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:17.960 kind of hit him with a wit and where you 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.559 walked by me, you kind of whisper in his ear 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.320 like him, I'm here. I mean, you gotta get that 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.240 Larry bird. You got tot was good at it. Kill 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.160 him on the load, you got to. But when you 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:30.080 get up flexing all up in his ear, I'm here, Yeah, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.320 they're gonna call you out on it, man. And you 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.640 know he'll learn, he'll learn as he gets more experienced, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.120 how to get that subtleness in there. But that was 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.040 a huge penalty, mane. That was That was I don't 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.800 want to call a game changing, but it was. It 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.599 happened at a time when the defense, your defense is 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.040 is showing up. They're giving you all the things that 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.920 you needed. And that were just times that our defense 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.080 looks so on. They looked like they were on the hills, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.160 all right. And I have to give credit to the 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.760 Philadelphia offensive line because they were blocking our guys to 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.880 the echo of the w all right. And as a 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.079 defensive guy, you hate that. You hate that because you're 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:06.920 looking at the ref like, come on, man, you don't 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:08.800 see that, you know, and the refs are not doing 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.080 anything about it. They're they're holding you, but they're getting away, 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.560 you know what I'm saying. It's like all of those 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.360 things were happening in this game, and you could tell, like, look, 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.840 these guys were getting frustrated. You can see it in 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:23.040 the interior linement Giza. They were getting frustrated, you know, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.760 they were getting because he was a lot of that 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.760 standing around the pile. Guy's blocking you while you're standing 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.520 around the pile. And I'm sure, like I said, for 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.200 those defensive guys at Tristan Hill, he was ready to 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:38.079 fight out, you know, because because once it came down 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:39.679 to him, you just sitting there and you're like, come on, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.839 Tristan man. You know, you guys are trying to make 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.840 the make a stop. But then they are getting their 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.240 run going. And it's not like they're getting the run 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.800 going on the edges. They're getting the run going in 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.600 the a gap and when you're getting when you're getting 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.360 the run going in the A gap, it just takes 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.319 your heart out as a defense man. Philadelphia had a 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.240 good game playing against horses. They had a good game 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.679 plan and and all you gotta do is read social 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.280 media Twitter. Eagle fans is trying to call. Someone said, 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:17.280 oh he's Michael Persons. You know like that Michael Persons. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.520 That's good. And I look at I just looked at 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.440 this game from this is this is a growth perspective 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.800 type of football game. So where Dan Quinn and these 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.240 guys are gonna get be able to get in here 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.600 and say, guys, this these are the things that if 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.920 people are gonna beat you, this number one, we can't 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.560 beat ourselves and then allow them to beat you. The 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.080 Cowboys still got to stop the run. I am I 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.760 am convinced now if you want to beat the Dallas Cowboys, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.560 you need to run the football. And they have got 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.280 to figure out how to fix that. Um the Eagles 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.160 in this football game, I mean, Jalen Hurts had nine 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.200 rushes for twenty seven yards, but they were effective. These 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.679 were just effective rushes and they kept the change moving here. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.640 He basically ran when he had to um and even 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.400 just to the threat of him running with uthing there. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.280 But the goboys got to fix this man. That's that's 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.160 just my take on the Cowboys. Rundy, what about you. No, Look, 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.839 I think you try and mitigate. You want to take 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.120 away one thing as a defense, like you ain't gonna 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.439 you ain't gonna give up the big play all right 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.240 over the top, but you ain't gonna run on us, 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.839 right Or you say we're gonna bend, don't break in 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.920 the run concept. You know, we're gonna let you have it. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.680 Then when you get close enough, we're just gonna bear 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.080 down and shut it down. I thought that they tried 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.120 to stay alignment assignment really well, but there were just 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.840 those moments where you they were they were guessing too much. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:34.839 And I just go back to the days of the 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.360 Big eight man Jamale Holloway, guys from the Oklahoma and 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:41.000 the Triple Option, and you couldn't run you like they 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.040 had so many athletes for Oklahoma back in the day. 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.960 Church that man, this man Holloway was like a magician 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.520 with the ball. You know, here a fake and if 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.960 your edge went that way, he was going ad yards. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.760 It was a rap, you know, yep, guys like that 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.240 Tommy Frasier, even like guys that used to run this option. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.280 And that's why I said to myself, I'm like, this 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.319 defense looks like this is an offense that they're facing 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.559 that they're not used to seeing these kinds of concepts 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.439 where you have to stay in your lane. If you 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.320 get out of that lane, you may give up an 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.719 eighty yard touchdown. And that's the part that I felt like, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:17.280 I just wanted Micah to destroy. It hurts. I'm like, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.880 forget it, forget the pitch straight at just go straight 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.240 at him and put him on this But because that's 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.120 the only way that you could stop him for even 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.080 he'll start pitching it early that yeah, he'd get rid 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.080 of it quick. But he was just in a situation 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.880 where he especially on that on the goal line the 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.280 past um to number six. I can't think of smith 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.960 the smith. I was like, that was a hell of 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.280 a play. But you look at our defenders on that play. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:48.839 Everybody was like bad eyes man man. The reaction from 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.000 Digs that got the penalty, he slamed the helmet down 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.800 in the end zone after that um. That showed you. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.880 That showed you some of the confusion. But this once again, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.720 this is a growth game. All right, Philly. You emptied 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.839 your bucket. You emptied your bucket on what you have 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.640 for the Cowboys. Now they've seen it, and you know 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.719 you gotta go. Now, go go play. You know as 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.000 to use old Jason Garrett stacks and wins. Got you 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.440 got Detroit, You've got Chicago, You've got Green Bay after that. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.760 So you've got games to play. Christmas Eve, dudes come 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.760 down here and you're you're hoping to have your your 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.480 crew healthy to go and see if they can run 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.800 this thing back on you. But it's it's a it's 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.720 it's not a game to sit up here and hold 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.880 your heads on fraudulent or anything like that. You know what, 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.720 they came out there, you battle back. The Cowboy defense 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.320 just could not make the stop they needed to once 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.400 it got to twenty to seventeen. I mean they marched 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.880 down on him. This is this is what what do 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:52.000 you guys calling on Mondays was a Garrett vision getting circle. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.440 So Dan Quinn's gonna sit up here, look at the 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.200 defense all the offensive side. Kellen Moore's gonna be looking 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:58.840 at the offense. Guys. 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Mike McCarthy, his game management 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.120 called into question and debated very much after the game 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:34.040 when the Cowboys lost. So Ceedee Lamb converts a third down, okay, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.000 and just you know, just kept fighting stretches the ball 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.600 out on TV. I thought it was clear to me 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.160 watching on TV, even in real time, before he saw 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.480 the instant he stretched out for and so Mike says 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.360 he talked to the official on the sidelines who said, nah, 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.359 didn't get it. He said he wanted to believe the 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:56.679 official and come on, so they go for it on 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.399 fourth down, they don't. Don't converts, you get Philadelphia and 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.800 easy feel. Defense does their part, but this was this 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.520 wasn't good. Now. It's pivotal moment. Not good, especially when 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.160 you think about, all right, you're not calling the place, Mike. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.199 You know you got Kellen to do that. You're not 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.639 called defense. This is your job as the CEO. He 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.080 didn't get it done. A lot of criticism going around 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.120 for him today. Heck, I'll start with you your thoughts. Man. 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.600 You can give him every excuse in the world in 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.960 that situation, but you're starting to run out of him 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.320 as far as game management is concerned. When you don't 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:28.960 challenge that spot, if you do it just for the 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.840