1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. We roll through the 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of the program. We're about to be joined 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: by Julie Kelly. But before we even bring her in, 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: I want to point this out. Julie works harder on 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: January sixth and all of these political prosecutions than anybody 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: else I've ever seen in the media. And if you 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: aren't following Julie, you need to be following her because 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: she gets the actual court documents up faster than anybody 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: I've seen. She works more hours than anybody I have seen. 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: And we bring her in now I believe she's in Chicago. 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: But Julie, how many hours a week do you think 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: you have been working on these jan six cases? And 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm just curious on this because I do think it's important. 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: How many other people in media are even doing this? 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: In other words, if you weren't working on this, how 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: much of what gets out that you put into the 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: media ecosystem do you think would even get a bit 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: of attention. Just to kind of start big picture here 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: with you. 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: Well, what a question, and thank you for that. I 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: don't know, I can't even calculate does this include like 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: the three hours a night I'm laying there a week 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: trying to figure out what's going on? 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 4: What's work on that? 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: No, I mean, you are incredible on this, and I 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: think it should because I mean, you've got to be 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: doing seventy eighty hour week's minimum and you've done it 31 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: now for years on this, and I don't know if 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: anybody else has ever complimented you on just the sheer 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: amount of energy and effort and commitment it takes to 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: cover this. 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: But I want to make sure we do it. 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: I know we've had you on the show quite a 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: bit over the past couple of years, but I think 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: that's a testament to your endurance and how much you 39 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: are committed to doing the work here, which almost no 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: one else is. 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: Well, that is, that's very kind. Thank you for noting that. 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: I do. I mean, I guess I know that it's 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: work I can, but I consider it's sort of like 44 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: a personal more of a personal missu mission than even 45 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: a professional one. You know, when I go to DC 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: last week and I see these defendants of what the 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: government has done to them and will importantly see what 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: they've done to these families. It really keeps me motivated. 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: And luckily, you know, I turned fifty five yesterday, and 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 3: luckily I've been blessed my whole life with a high 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: energy level. So I'm glad to put it to good use. 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: I know, and my husband on a Saturday afternoon gives 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: me the look that I better get off my preputer 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: and do something else. So but you know, he understands 55 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: the importance of what I'm doing. My family's been super 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: supportive and my and my friends, so that helps. But 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: thank you for mentioning that. And you know, there's a 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 3: lot more work to be done, and I'm I'm I 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 3: don't want to say honored, but I do feel privileged 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: to have the access that I do, the ability to 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: spend all this time on it, you know, the resources 62 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: that I need to travel to DC or get these 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: court documents because just a lot of people don't. So 64 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: you know, that's that's just my contribution to exposing what's 65 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: happening and defending the voiceless and people who have no 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: one speaking for them. 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Julie, it's buck. I also think you're great. 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 5: I am very but I want to I want to 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 5: ask you about what just happened if I can, which 70 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: is which is this just really jaw dropping twenty two 71 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 5: year sentence for Enriquetario. I read the indictment, actually read 72 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: through it a couple of times, or at least parts 73 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 5: of it a few times over again, just to see 74 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 5: what is I know, the top count of seditions conspiracy. 75 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 5: The first hour we talked about some of the others 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 5: conspiracy cases that where there was a guilty for it 77 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 5: and it involved gi Hotis who wanted to commit mass 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 5: murder and we're taking active stef to blow up a building, 79 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 5: a bridge, the World Trade Center, things like that. 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: What is the worst thing that Enricotario actually did. What's 81 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: the thing that he did That's the worst thing that 82 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: he did? 83 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: Well, the worst thing, I think was that he was 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: the head of one of these of a few of 85 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: these group chats with other Proud Boys and FBIND formants. 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: By the way, oregon I talking about the stolen election, 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: talking about their support for Donald Trump, talking about making 88 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: plans to go to DC on January sixth. That's basically 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: what got Enriquetario and the others in the crosshairs of 90 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice, and of course this crazy seditious conspiracy, which, 91 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: as you know, if you've read the language of the 92 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: statute and the jury instructions, there's basically no burden of 93 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: proof for the government to demonstrate to a jury, which 94 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: is why they're coming back quickly with convictions. Four out 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: of five of these guys convicted by this jury back 96 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: in April, and seditious conspiracy. So look, this is all 97 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: to bolster the bogus narrative set by Christopher Ray and 98 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: others that domestic terrorists, right wing malicious pose this grave 99 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: threat to the country, and also of course to punish 100 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: Trump supporters and people who protested Joe Biden's election. 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 5: I have to ask you, Julie, because as I'm reading this, 102 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 5: I think I saw some of the things that the indictment, right, 103 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 5: So the indictment is just their version of the events. 104 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 5: I'm not even it's not like I'm looking at what 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 5: the defense came up with as a justification or rationalization rationalization. 106 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 5: I'm looking at the actual indictment, and it seems like 107 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 5: when he says, meaning Terario or some of the others, yeah, 108 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 5: we're going to take back our government. This is seventeen 109 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 5: seventy six all over again. That like they're saying, well, 110 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 5: you tried to take back the government. Therefore you're going 111 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 5: to prison for twenty years. 112 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: That's right. It's stunning. I'm telling you guys, not only 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: in this case but others, the invocation of the founding 114 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: fathers or talking about seventeen seventy six or revolution has 115 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: been used as evidence against these defendants, as if talking 116 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: about seventeen seventy six or the spirit of it, or 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: rising up against your government, which is of course our right, 118 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: redress of grievances, protest our government officials. These are all 119 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: supposed to be constitutionally protected rights that have now been 120 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: turned into crimes, and not only regular crimes like felonies, 121 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: but now crimes of terror. You have Judge am Meida 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: who has declared that obstruction of official preceding a post 123 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: enron statute that has to do with tampering with evidence 124 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: and witness that is now a terror, a federal crime 125 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: of terrorism, obstruction of an official proceeding seditious conspiracy. And 126 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: then in the Proud Voice case, shaking a metal sense 127 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: a temporary metal sense now has since the left of 128 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: destroying government property, which is one defense attorney said, No, 129 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: we're talking about blowing up government buildings. We're talking about 130 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: attacking military installations. We're not talking about if you rabble 131 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: rousers shaking offense, that is not a crime of terrorism. 132 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: But guess what, guys, now it is thanks to Judge 133 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: Tim Kelly on Ittmeida who have turned these otherwise dubious 134 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: offenses that have nothing to do with political protests into 135 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: new crimes of terrorism. And the GOP has no clue 136 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: what's going on, not a clue what's happening and where 137 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: this is headed? 138 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's where I was going to go next. 139 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: Buck and I were talking about how and this is 140 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: not a new argument that we've made. We've made it 141 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: with you on the air, We've made it with you 142 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: off the air. How do you think Republicans have responded 143 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: to a clear political attack against them using January sixth 144 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: as the cudgel, so to speak? And what does this 145 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: speak to going forward, not only for January sixth, but 146 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: for Donald and any other Republican Based on what you've 147 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: seen with what now clearly appeals appears to me to 148 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: be a court that effectively is an opportunity for Democrats 149 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: to try to put Republicans in jail while knowing that 150 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: simultaneously there is virtually zero chance no matter what Democrats do, 151 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: that a DC jury will ever hold them accountable. 152 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: Right, So to your point, they can get away with 153 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: this because they know the script will never be flipped 154 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: on them. Even if you tried to, under Donald Trump presidency, 155 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: use the DCUs Attorney's Office to prosecute some of these 156 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: same people on these same new charges and see new 157 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: terror enhancements, you're not going to have a DC judge 158 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: and you're not going to have a DC jury get 159 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: away with it. So that's the problem. But beyond this 160 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: setting up new terror crimes, et cetera, this is a 161 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: warning shot for next year. This is criminalizing any protest 162 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: against an election. This is criminalizing any investigation into voter fraud. 163 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: This is criminalized any way to raise money to investigate 164 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: or file a lawsuit. This is about preventing any of 165 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: this from happening next year as Democrats try to we're 166 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: going to try to pull the same thing that they 167 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: did in twenty twenty. So that's really the most dangerous 168 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: territory now. But you know they're arresting people every week. 169 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: This has as you and as we've always talked about, 170 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: this goes beyond Donald Trump. They've got more than eleven 171 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: hundred defendants. They're arresting people every single day. I'm getting alert. 172 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: A twenty two year old young man from Utah last 173 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: week took his own life after he was charged with 174 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: four misdemeanors. He was nineteen on January sixth. On January sixth, 175 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: he sees what happens is what is happening to these 176 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: January sixth defendants, their lives being ruined, and rather than 177 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: face a DC judge and possibly a DC jury and 178 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: had a life destroyed, this man, Jordan Gum, one of 179 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: ten children, a rural Utah family, very tight knit, very religious, 180 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: ended his life last week then endure this tournament. He's 181 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 3: one of four to six defendants who have committed suicide. 182 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,119 Speaker 3: This is a human wreckage, not just belong prison sentences, 183 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: not just the charget. This is the human wreckage that 184 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: this Department of Justice is creating while the GOP sits 185 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: on his hands. Basically can plicit in in what this 186 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: what this Department of Justice is doing. 187 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 5: Check out Julie Kelly's declassified on substack where she does 188 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: a lot of her reporting and shares what she's covering 189 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 5: and and the research she's doing there. Julie, to your 190 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 5: point about Republicans, I mean, one, what these these defendants, 191 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 5: these j six defendants, I mean, do they feel abandoned 192 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 5: by their party? And and actually even more specifically, I'm 193 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 5: wondering who paid the legal bills? Were their legal bills 194 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 5: paid for these six that were charged in seditious conspiracy? 195 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 5: Was any of the money coming from some of the 196 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 5: funding that the Trump that the Trump orbit has raised. 197 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 5: What can you tell us about funding for the legal defense? 198 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: Not to my knowledge, and I believe that at least 199 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: half of these defense attorneys have been court appointed so 200 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: that they are paid for by the government. 201 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 5: I mean, do these defendants feel abandoned by their side 202 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 5: at least in terms of getting a fair you know, 203 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 5: getting a robust defense and a fair trial. 204 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: They feel abandoned and they have been abandoned. You know, 205 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: when I was in the courtroom last week, it was 206 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: basically MJ EXCEP family members, you know, members of the 207 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: Department of Justice and some reporters. Can you imagine how 208 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: filled the courtroom would be with democratic lawmakers and political 209 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: leaders had their own supporters been subjected to what these 210 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: proud boys or anyone has been. I don't think a 211 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: single Republican lawmaker. And I mean you can walk to 212 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: the courthouse from the Capitol Building. It's in It's literally 213 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: two bought. I mean, the courthouse is in the shadow 214 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 3: of the Capitol Building. You can walk there. I don't 215 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: think a single Republican lawmaker has attended a single court hearing, 216 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: day of trial, sentencing for any of these individuals. Now, 217 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: I know if you have gone to the jail, Marjorie 218 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 3: Taylor Green, Louis Gohmert, that's commendable. Can you imagine if 219 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: that court room would have been filled with people like 220 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: Kevin McCarthy, James Jordan, anyone would have been there to 221 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: listen to what Judge Tim Kelly was doing to these 222 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: men in this government that they pay for, they've oversighted 223 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: for these bodies. They helped fund the DC District Court, 224 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: Federal Court House, they fund the Washington FBI Field Office, 225 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: they fund the DCUs Attorney's Office. But they act like 226 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: they don't They act like they have no responsibilities, and 227 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: now they have culpabilities in what these federally funded acies 228 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 3: that they have congressional oversight for. They now are part 229 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: of a bigger problem here, So I find that particularly shameful. 230 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: Julie, last question obviously the lingering impact and the shadow 231 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: of the Trump prosecution which is set I believe, correct 232 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong for March fourth, right now, have 233 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: you heard anything else about that or any of your 234 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: sources inside DC talked about whether or not they believe 235 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: that that trial will be able to actually start on 236 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: March fourth. 237 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: That's what it's set for now. My sources in DC, 238 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: which have better sources than I do, with more powerful people, 239 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: do not believe that Jack Smith will bring additional charges 240 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: against Donald Trump for January sixth. I still don't believe it. 241 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: I don't think Jacksmith is going to be settled with 242 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: four tone indictment, including one obstruction of an official proceeding 243 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: that is now sitting possibly could be taken by this 244 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: same court. They could make a decision next month, So 245 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: pretty sketchy indictment and major charge that could be really 246 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: LEO by that point. 247 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 5: Julie Kelly, everybody check out her substack declassified with Julie Kelly. 248 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Julie, thank you, for being with us. 249 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, thanks for having me. 250 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: She does phenomenal work. Cyber scammers love text messaging to 251 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: get your attention. 252 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: It's a numbers game for them. 253 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: If you reply, they easily plant malware on your phone 254 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: start downloading downloading info on your phone. 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Should we say we keep teasing film 277 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: bump we're giving film let. 278 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: Us be able to really tee off on film Bookay, 279 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: I mean this is gonna be good. 280 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 5: We don't want to just do a short drive a 281 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 5: short bump, if you will. We want to actually get 282 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 5: into this a little bit, so we will. But I 283 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 5: thought this was interesting. Maggie Haberman here, who has tremendous 284 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 5: access to Trump, I don't know what to tell you 285 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 5: other than she does and has for a long time. 286 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 5: She says that she believes Trump sees a political advantage 287 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 5: in floating pardons for January sixth defendants. 288 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: Play two. 289 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 6: He has been fundraising to try to help some of 290 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 6: the defendants in January sixth related cases. I don't think 291 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 6: that this will have him adjust anything. I'm sure his 292 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 6: lawyers would like it if he would adjust some of 293 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 6: what he's saying and doing, but I don't think for 294 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 6: what he is saying himself. He sees political advantage in 295 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 6: continuing to say that he might pardon people. He thinks 296 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 6: that it rallies his supporters. 297 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 5: Do we know who has said I know DeSantis has 298 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 5: said he would consider pardons and commutations day one if 299 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 5: he were president. Trump has said the same thing. 300 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Who else? 301 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 5: Viveik has said that are they the only Are they 302 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: the only three? 303 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: I think Nikki Haley said on our show that she 304 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: would I don't want to put words in her mouth, 305 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: but she said something like she would probably do it 306 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: or might make the most sense. 307 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: If raytheon letzer. Yeah, that's what Vivek would say. I'm 308 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: still fired about that. That's a cheap shot, but it's fun. 309 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 310 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm still fired up about this because I think everybody 311 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: should have taken it off the table. I give the 312 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: vague credit for jumping on this, but I believe you 313 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: and I were the first people to start talking about it. 314 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: If every candidate had just said, Hey, if we win, 315 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Trump's going to be pardoned in the event of conviction. 316 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: This is a political prosecution. It's indefensible. I just I 317 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: think that it would have taken this story off the table. Instead, 318 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: it's like everybody keeps tiptoeing up around it and they're 319 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: not standing on principle. 320 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you can know, based on all the 321 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 5: facts already, how you would feel about a majority of 322 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 5: these cases and for nonviolent for nonviolent people to get 323 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 5: decades in prison on conspiracy doesn't happen to leftist I 324 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 5: can tell you that you know you should pay close 325 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 5: to tim to a forthcoming federal government announcement about the 326 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 5: money that we carry around. 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Appreciate all of 343 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: you hanging out with us now by Congressman Jim Jordan 344 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: from the great State of Ohio and Congressman let's just 345 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 2: dive right into it. 346 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: Appreciate you joining us. 347 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: You guys, and I give tremendous credit to you and 348 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: your staff and also the House Oversight Committee on Weaponization 349 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: all of this evidence that is continuing to come out 350 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: about Joe Biden and his potential criminal involvement. So I 351 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 2: want to start here. You probably are as fired up 352 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: as I am when you see so many people in 353 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: the legacy media out there New York Times, Washington Post, CBSNBC, ABC, 354 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: certainly MSNBC and CNN. They keep trying to say that 355 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: there is no evidence of Joe Biden's connection to Hunter Biden. 356 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: It's a total lie. You cannot think it's significant enough 357 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: to be criminal. But I want to start with that. 358 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: When you see them say there's no evidence that Joe 359 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: was connected to Hunter Biden's crimes. You respond, how to 360 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: people out there, dinners. 361 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: Phone calls and meetings, dinners with his business partners and clients, 362 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: people he was doing business with, like the wife of 363 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: the former mayor of Moscow, the wealthiest lady in all 364 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: of Russia. Then there's all the meetings that, there's all 365 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: the phone calls. There's the phone call that takes place 366 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: on December fourth between Hunter Biden or excuse me, Hunter Biden, 367 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: the two guys who run Bearisma Zolachevsky they called d C. 368 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 4: Devin Archer and his deposition wouldn't tell us who in DC. 369 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: We can all surmise who that probably was. They called 370 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: DC in Five days later, Joe Biden gets on a 371 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 4: plane flight to GiB and starts attacking the prosecutor over 372 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 4: there and ultimately leads to him getting fired because that's 373 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: the guy who was putting pressure on Bearismith. So yeah, 374 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: and not to mention the twenty companies, not to mention 375 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: the twenty million dollars, all the emails, eyewitnesses, the laptop 376 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: on on ago. So yeah, there's definitely links. There's definitely involvement. Again, 377 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: you can you can, I guess argue whether it was 378 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 4: criminal or not. But it's starting to evidence seems to 379 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: me to be stacking up in such a way that 380 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: I think it is very very likely we open an 381 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: impeachment inquiry, go to an impeachment inquiry phase of this 382 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: investigation real soon. 383 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 5: So Congressman, it sounds like you think you may have 384 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 5: the votes down the line for an impeachment inquiry, and 385 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 5: obviously you can continue to use oversight in an important 386 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 5: way to get the American people the truth. I'm wondering, 387 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 5: you know, what do you think when we get asked 388 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 5: this question, what can be done about the weaponization of government? 389 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: What we're seeing, for example, with disparate sentences for individuals 390 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 5: tied to January sixth in some way? You know, is 391 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 5: there any federal legislation that you think could be obviously 392 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 5: with a Republican majority and a Republican president, but is 393 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 5: there something that you would like to see done that 394 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 5: would help with the weaponization of government and the usage 395 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 5: of the bureaucracy as a weapon of politics, which we're 396 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 5: clearly seeing right now. 397 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: Right right, So Senator Paul and I introduced legislation and 398 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 4: Senator Palmer Senate side. We've introduced on the House side 399 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 4: that says, if you're involved in pressuring, coercing, persuading big 400 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 4: tech companies to censor Americans, you're in the federal government, 401 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 4: you can They're real you can lose your job, you 402 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 4: can lose your security clearance, you can lose your pension. 403 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: There can be civil penaltivil action brought against you. So 404 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: that's a legislative legislation we've introduced. You're right, it won't 405 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: get passed in the current makeup of Congress, and Joe 406 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: Biden wouldn't sign it. He's been involved in the censorship. 407 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 4: The White House is, you know, working with these with 408 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 4: these tech companies to sensor Americans. But that that's the 409 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 4: kind of legislation that I think does need to pass 410 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: to protect the First Amendment. And then second, I would 411 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: point out one of the good things that has happened 412 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 4: by us knowing you know, how these agencies have been 413 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 4: turned on the American people. You may have seen, I 414 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: think it was about six weeks ago the IRS announced 415 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 4: that they will no longer be sending agents to Americans' 416 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 4: homes unannounced, and of course Dandy werfol the IRS commissioner said, well, 417 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 4: we did this because we were concerned about the safety 418 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 4: of our agents. Beloney, they did this because we caught them. 419 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 4: We caught them knocking on that Tyabe's door. At the 420 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: very moment, Matt Tabe was testifying in front of our 421 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: committee about how how Twitter had been weaponized to go 422 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: after American's first amend the three speech rights by the 423 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 4: by the Biden administration. So we are making some progress 424 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: just by I think, showing how bad it is. We're 425 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 4: seeing some of these agencies begin to back off in 426 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: some of the things they were doing. 427 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: Congressman Jim Jordan with us now, Jim, we appreciate the 428 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: time and the work. Like we said, off the top, 429 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: you mentioned impeachment of Joe Biden. There have been a 430 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: lot of talk of impeachment of majorcas of Merrick Garland. 431 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: I think it's smart to go right to the top 432 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: and focus on Biden himself. 433 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: If impeachment proceedings are to begin, what would that process 434 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: look like? What would the time frame look like? From 435 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: your perspective, You've been through impeachment several times, certainly most 436 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: noticeable notably with Trump recently. What's that process like as 437 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: it would pertain to Joe Biden. For listeners out there 438 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: who probably are curious on the timing. 439 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: No, it's a great question, and look, I think we 440 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 4: should always be driven by the facts, the evidence, and 441 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: our constitutional duty. If the facts and the evidence weren't 442 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 4: moving to what's called an impeachment inquiry phase of oversight, 443 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 4: which is part of our constitutional duty, then I think 444 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: we're going to go there. The Speaker has been clear 445 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: about that. I think the evidence is pointing in that direction. 446 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 4: If that happens, I think you'll continue to see the 447 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 4: Oversight Committee, the Judiciary Committee, in the ways the Means 448 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: Committee particularly focus in on what happened with David Weiss 449 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: in this investigation and all the other things we're uncovering 450 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: just about the Biden business operation. So I think it'll 451 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: sort of continue. Is the benefit of moving to an 452 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 4: impeachment inquiry phase is courts have recognized when you're in 453 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 4: that phase, and there's been a formal vote by the 454 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: House of Representatives majority voting to move into that part 455 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 4: of an investigation, Courts have been much more willing when 456 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: there's a dispute over people to come in and be 457 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: deposed or docum as you are seeking as the House 458 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: of Representatives, of course, have been more willing to say, yeah, 459 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: give that to the House. This is part of their 460 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: constitutional responsibility. Impeachment proceedings. Impeachment inquiries are of specific function 461 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: of the House of Representatives, so that helps us get 462 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 4: the information we would need to get to get the 463 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 4: facts there for the American people. I think that's likely 464 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: to happen here this fall. Where we move to that phase, 465 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 4: whether we go to full articles of impeachment, I think 466 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 4: again is driven by the facts, driven by the evidence 467 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 4: that we uncover as we go to that phase of 468 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: the investigation. 469 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: Jim, I think this is important for our audience to know. 470 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people out there who are very frustrated, 471 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: as I'm sure you can imagine, they hear and see 472 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: all the evidence of Biden corruption, yet they see the 473 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: mainstream media say there's no evidence of corruption, a sort 474 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: of criminality, and they know that that is in fact 475 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: a whe Whether you believe it is criminal or not 476 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: is certainly disputable, but there's tons of evidence out there 477 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: that this occurred. But I want to share a positive here. 478 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: Do you believe that Hunter Biden would have on all 479 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 2: of these charges if Democrats had retained the House. In 480 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: other words, how important to what we have been able 481 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: to uncover, what you guys have been able to uncover 482 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: is simply having the House majority. Would any of this 483 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: have come out if Democrats had retained the House? 484 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: None of it. I don't think any things we've learned 485 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 4: about censorship, anything we've learned of the irs, anything we've 486 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: learned that DOJDHS. So I mean, I don't think any 487 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 4: of it comes out. More importantly, I think Hunter Biden 488 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 4: gets to remember what the New York Times reported a 489 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: few weeks ago, the sweetheart deal that the judge declined 490 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 4: to accept. It was even sweeter. They weren't even going 491 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: to group have Hunter Biden. He wasn't gonna have to 492 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 4: plead guilty to anything. 493 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: Yep. 494 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: But for Gary Shapley and mister Zigler coming forward as whistleblowers. 495 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: I don't think any of that happens either. So, and 496 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: also in that story, remember what they were gonna do 497 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: the defense council, the Hunter Biden's defense council said, we'll 498 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: put the President of the United States, We'll put Hunter 499 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: Biden's father on the witness stand. And they were pressing 500 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 4: that hard again the government lawyers against the dj to 501 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: get them not to charge Hunter Biden with anything, and 502 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: they were going to do it. That is That is 503 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: how serious this all is. God bless Chaplin Ziggler, who 504 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 4: came for that helped so much. I'm convinced that's why 505 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: the judge in that case that did such a good 506 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: job when she looked at this plea deal in the 507 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 4: diversion agreement and said no way to either one of 508 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: those things. And now here we are now the crazy thing. 509 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 4: The very person who was going to put a sweeter 510 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 4: sweetheart deal together, the very person who allowed all these 511 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: things to happen in the four and a half years 512 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 4: of that investigation. That's the guy Hunter Biden. Excuse me, 513 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: Merrick Garlet now makes the special counsel David Weis makes 514 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 4: him the special counsel in this investigation which makes absolutely 515 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: no sense. 516 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 5: Thanks for being with us, Concress and Jim Jordan of 517 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 5: Ohio is always good to talk to you, sir. 518 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: You bet, you bet, take care of guys. 519 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: Thanks, keep up the good work. 520 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: I think this is so important Buck as we go 521 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: to break for everybody out there, I understand how frustrating 522 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: it is to see all of this criminality stacking up 523 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: and feel like there have been no consequences. I think 524 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan's one hundred percent right there. If Republicans don't 525 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: have control of the House, Hunter Biden, no punishment at all. 526 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: It all gets sweet swept under the rug. 527 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: And that's something for all of you to keep in mind, 528 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: not only about the presidential race next year, which is 529 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: obviously going to be consequential, but maintaining the House and 530 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: or winning the Senate, no matter what happens in the 531 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: presidential race, is going to be incredibly important and consequential 532 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: in terms of holding people in positions of power on 533 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: the Democrat side. Without that, there will be no checks 534 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: and balances. 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And the political 553 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 5: landscape it's uh, well, it's after labor ding now, so 554 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 5: things are going to ramp up big time here in 555 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: the days and weeks ahead. But on recent weeks, thankfully though, 556 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 5: the view will come up with some stuff. This is great, 557 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: just when you think they have reached peak absurdity over there. 558 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: And I honestly never no, do they believe this stuff 559 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: or do they just. 560 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 5: Say it out of a shameless a shameless pandering to 561 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 5: what is a very low information audience. 562 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. 563 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 5: But this one was particularly particularly fascinating to hear, so 564 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 5: that the issue of Biden's age. 565 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Seventy percent of Americans give or take think Biden is 566 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: too old according to all the poland, which. 567 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 5: I would guess that's a You got the twenty percent 568 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 5: of hardcore Democrats who live in a fantasy, a delusion, 569 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 5: ten percent of people just don't know what the heck 570 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 5: is going on, and the other seventy percent are like, yeah, 571 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: whatever I think of politics, Biden's too old, right, Like 572 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 5: that makes sense as a if you were doing back 573 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 5: of the Napkin math on this one, Yes, sir. 574 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's actually one of the few things that 575 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: Joe Biden has managed to unite the country on. Buck 576 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: It's eighty nine percent of Republicans and sixty nine percent 577 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: of Democrats, seventy seven percent overall, nearly eight out. 578 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: Of ten say Biden is too old. 579 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: So to your point, there's about twenty percent of hardcore 580 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: Democrats that disagree with that. Seventy seven percent agree. Regardless 581 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: of politics. 582 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 5: You know, there are certain things that as much as 583 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 5: I may respect and admire a politician or think that 584 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: they're just good for the cause, they're street fighters. They're 585 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: gonna get it done, they're gonna do it's best for America. 586 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 5: You know, I can't defend that Donald Trump likes his 587 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 5: stakes well done. There is no defense. There's nothing I 588 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 5: can do. He that's how he rolls with his stakes. Okay, folks, 589 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 5: I you know I'm not in charge of everything. Unfortunately, 590 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 5: Biden's age is in the stake well done category. Like 591 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 5: Biden's age is not something you can defend. They tried 592 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 5: it over at the View and here is how that went. 593 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: Seventy three percent of Americans are worried that he is 594 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: too old to be president again. 595 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: And he is, you know, going to be the Democratic lavement. 596 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 6: But interrupt you, But isn't the truth that Fox and 597 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 6: all those right wing stations keeps showing pictures of him 598 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 6: tripping the way? 599 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: People trap it? 600 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: Seventy seventy three percent of Americans, that's just not Fox. 601 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: And he's over the way and he's in a terrible shits, 602 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and he's only three years younger than Biden. 603 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 4: Well, and I think both issue The biggest voting. 604 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Blocking into this election will be gen zers and millennials, 605 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: and we are generation feels underrepresented by two frankly people 606 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: ocagenarians are soon to be running to run. 607 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 6: The cook I'm I've never understood why people focus so 608 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 6: much on Joe Biden's age. He is in a very 609 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 6: good physical shape. 610 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: He exercises regularly. 611 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 5: He actually eats a vegetable or two on a daily basis. 612 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 6: I want he. 613 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 5: Eats a vegetable. He seems like a vegetable sometimes. What 614 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 5: is she talking about. 615 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: I will give credit for he eats a vegetable every 616 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: now and then or whatever that quote was, because it's 617 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: so transparently ridiculous that it has to be a joke 618 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: about his health. 619 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: No one. 620 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: I don't think there is a single eighty year old 621 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: listening to us right now, and I know there are 622 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: probably a lot. I don't think there's a single eighty 623 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: year old out there who would say, yeah, I watched 624 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: Joe Biden and he seems like he's in peak physical condition. 625 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: There are lots of eighty year olds, buck who are 626 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: in very very good physical condition. 627 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is not one of them. And even for 628 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: eighty year. 629 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: Olds, which is obviously a standard in which people, if 630 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: you're forts, that's older than the average person lives to. 631 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: So if you make it to eighty, God bless you, 632 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: and you've had a tremendous life, and I hope you'll 633 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: live to be ninety, and I hope you'll live to 634 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: be one hundred. We've got two parents who are moving up. 635 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: Both of us have parents who are moving up on 636 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: close to eighty. I would love to see my parents 637 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: live to be one hundred years old, as you would, 638 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: as we all would out there, grandparents, whatever. 639 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 1: It may be. 640 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: I also don't think, and I bet my parents are 641 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: listening right now, I don't think my parents could be 642 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: president of the United States, like I don't want an 643 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: eighty year old, and they're in good physical condition. 644 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 5: I like to think I'm a pretty robust forty one 645 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 5: and sometimes I need a nap, you know. The idea, 646 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 5: I get it, the idea that i'd be forty years 647 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 5: older and be able to have the rigors of Really 648 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 5: I do think a part of this, and this doesn't 649 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 5: get much attention. I do think a part of this 650 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 5: is the presidency, certainly under a Democrat administration like this 651 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 5: has turned into autopilot. And that's where the Obama factor. 652 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 5: That really interesting article with the high Pavel Magazine biographer 653 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 5: came up where it was just, you know, it doesn't 654 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 5: really matter. It's like it's as crazy as this is. 655 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 5: The Biden presidency shows you that the President of the 656 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 5: United States can be a figurehead position right now, because 657 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 5: Joe Biden is a figurehead. 658 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: That is what's going on. 659 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: And if you heard the interview questions for the press 660 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: questions for KJP yesterday, one of them was from Peter Doocey, 661 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 2: who is one of the few people in the White 662 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: House Press Corps that actually asked questions the new Biden biography, 663 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: and I was making fun of You might have heard 664 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: me last night making fun of Jesse Waters because he said, yeah, 665 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 2: I went and bought it. I'm like, I can't think 666 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: of anything I would less rather read right now than 667 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: the Joe Biden biography that is coming out. But the 668 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 2: Joe Biden biography quotes him as saying that he feels 669 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: like he's babied by the staff all the time, that 670 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 2: they don't allow him to be president. And I would 671 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: imagine that it's frustrating in some ways for Biden in 672 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: this manner. 673 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: Buck and we've talked about this a few times. 674 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 5: It's like they're bringing Biden a blank in a sippy 675 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 5: cup and he's getting cranky about it. 676 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. But imagine if you had whatever you 677 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: do for a living everybody out there listening to us 678 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: right now. Imagine if you reached the apex of your career, 679 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: the ascendant level that you could ever hope to rise to, 680 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 2: and you did it about twenty years after you could 681 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: have done the job to the best of your ability. 682 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: I imagine in the moments when Biden's mind actually works, 683 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: he thinks I would have been so much better. Remember, 684 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: he ran for president the first time buck in nineteen 685 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: eighty eight, and he got kicked out because of a 686 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 2: plagiarism controversy. 687 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty eight. 688 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: He would have been, whatever you think about Joe Biden, 689 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: an infinitely better president in nineteen eighty eight than he 690 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: is today in twenty twenty three. And I think deep 691 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: down he recognizes that he's twenty years past his prime 692 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 2: and he isn't able to do the job, and I 693 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: think that probably frustrates him. 694 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 5: A mental doctor, Marty McCarey of Johns Hopkins University Medical School, 695 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 5: one of the few docs out there who's been upfront, honest, correct, 696 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 5: forthright with the American people about the fauciite lunacy. He's 697 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 5: going to join us in a couple of minutes because 698 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 5: a lot of us are concerned, especially if you live 699 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 5: in a blue state. Some of this stuff is coming back. 700 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 5: Maybe it's just for political reasons, but we'll talk about 701 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 5: the science for the lack of science behind all that 702 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 5: that's coming up, tink around,