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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane

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Speaker 1: Ever told you production of I Heart Radio. Welcome everyone

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Speaker 1: to our segments that we are calling the smiinty Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I need to do the NBR voice

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Speaker 1: for happy Hours. Yeah, I get you know, I get

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Speaker 1: that vibe to. One of the very first listener mails

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Speaker 1: I received when I started podcasting was that I sounded

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Speaker 1: like Alec Baldwin trying to do an NPR voice with

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Speaker 1: the sweaty balls, because I guess I say like, yeah

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Speaker 1: in that way or something. I say that a lot.

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Speaker 1: I did take it as an insult at all. That's

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Speaker 1: a great segment. I'd love. That's probably one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite sketches. Yeah, that makes me feel even better then.

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Speaker 1: It's so great. But yeah, I do feel like we

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Speaker 1: need to do an NPR. But because it is our

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Speaker 1: happy hour moment, Happy Thursday, every one. I hope whatever

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna reach for the stars

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Speaker 1: on this one with just just not bad. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: you're you're managing well, hopefully you're happy it's Thursday and

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Speaker 1: you have some time to unwind with us and relax

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Speaker 1: in whatever way that might be and join us in

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Speaker 1: this happy hour. Yeah, so grab your favorite beverage. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you already have because you're a pro by now,

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Speaker 1: and let's sit together and today for our own beverages.

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Speaker 1: Because you and I we are actually bringing out the beers.

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Speaker 1: It's time. It's time. I love the brewing industry. I

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Speaker 1: got to be a part of it for several years

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Speaker 1: with Orpheus in Atlanta, and we're gonna go exploring for

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Speaker 1: this delicious nous. It's St. Louis, Missouri? Is it? My

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Speaker 1: very excited about this, and I want to do a

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Speaker 1: quick shout out to our connection because he has been

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Speaker 1: really phenomenal in making sure that we can get the

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Speaker 1: beers that we're asking for. Jason over at Orpheus, he

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Speaker 1: course he's one of the ones that I learned about

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Speaker 1: how they all culminate together. So shout out to him,

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Speaker 1: and of course he is an amazing advocate and an

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Speaker 1: my experiences in an industry that is very male centric

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Speaker 1: We know the history of beers came from women way

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Speaker 1: So thanks Jason, Yes, thank you Jason. You actually before

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Caroline as well, we did. I you know

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Speaker 1: Also obviously disclaimer, as always, at least currently, this is

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Speaker 1: just trying to highlight people women, particularly doing interesting things

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Speaker 1: But Libby, thank you so much and sending these beers

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna open my Cano beer right now already.

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Speaker 1: But I love it, which is their West Coast style

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Speaker 1: So we wanted specifically to highlight Second Shift Brewing, which

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