1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Girls Talk, 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, preferred dating partner of 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: headquarters at the Star. Welcome into Girls Talk, Boys Talk, 6 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: brought to you by Jigsaw Dating, the official dating partner 7 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. Well, it sounds like the courtship 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: of Odell Beckham Junior. See what I did there, ladies. 9 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Jerry was ready to put a ring on it, Yes, 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Sunday rotten now. And then I felt like he start 11 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: he had drinks with his boys. They started to bring 12 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: some things up at about the girl He's about to 13 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: put this ring on he did compared to a marriage, Yeah, 14 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: and then I think he just sort of pulled back 15 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm going to get your thoughts on 16 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: some of the developments today, ladies, But just in talking 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: to some of my sources around here, Jerry's still a 18 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: wild card and Jerry could still make a move. He said, 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: they're still working on it. He said that on the record, 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: and I believe in Jerry's mind he'd love to get 21 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: a guy like OBJ in here because of the star 22 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: power we once saw with the Dez Bryant, the merchandising, 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: the personality, and if you've ever interacted with Obj, he 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: really isn't this charismatic, dynamic guy. He's one of my 25 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: favorite players in the league. But there are real concerns 26 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: about when this knee could be ready to go. And 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: as we've discussed on this show, it's all about a 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: right now because we've seen this in the past. Rosters 29 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: look so different next season. The NFC East could look 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: different next season. But Jerry Jones and we've heard it 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: from sounds in the sidelines, we heard it from Levy Smith. 32 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: We'll get into that. People know this is a special 33 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: team this year, so if you're going to make this 34 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: sort of investment, it needs to be it now. I 35 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: had asked Michael Parsons off to the side, then he 36 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: was asked it by reporters. When did mikel tell you? 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: When did OBJ say he'd be available? He said five weeks. 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: So you're looking at what did I tell you a 39 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when you and I talked about it. 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: So I was like, it's gonna be a mid January 41 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: thing if it was truly a mid January thing too. 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: I believe Jerry pulls out the pocketbook, but I think 43 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: they've got real concerned that this is a late late 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: January thing possibly and not a thing in twenty twenty two. 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: And that's where things are right now. But as I 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: said to Jerry, I once had a coach in this 47 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: league say, if you want a free agent, you don't 48 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: let him leave the building. No offer was made to OBJ. 49 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: They might still be working on it. But I did 50 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: go up to Jason Peters just for for giggles. Hey, Jason, 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: when you left the building after your meeting with Jerry, 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: did you have an offer? He had an offer. Now 53 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: was a different situation he could work out. They had 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: the Arkansas love affair. They meet an offensive lineman. But 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: OBJ walked out of here without an offer. They might 56 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: have talked money, but they weren't prepared to do anything 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: because they're still going through those medicals. And I feel 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: like there's a little bit of a hesitation here. And 59 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, guys, what is the biggest luxury 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: purchase that you've ever had? For me? It was recently 61 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: my house. I bought a house this year. If I 62 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: loved that house, it's the cutest little house. It was 63 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: sort of a house that I manifested. But if my 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: real estate agent told me, you can look at the pictures, 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: but you can't walk in the house, am I buying 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: the house? I'm not. So. I understand the hesitancy and 67 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: how it can start off with excitement an intrigue, but 68 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: if I can't walk around the house, how do I 69 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: justify spending that kind of money. Whoever wants to jump 70 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: in your go for it, but your sort of thoughts 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: on this situation as it's developed, and this the enthusiasm 72 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: feels like it's waned a little bit. Yeah. You know 73 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: what I thought was interesting was Obj's tweet today the 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Little Chess Piece, and I tweeted out checkmate, and the 75 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: first thing that came to my head was a Taylor 76 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Swift lyric that said I'm not gonna lose, essentially, which 77 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: ties back to her Mastermind song talking about how she 78 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: schemes things ahead. So I just thought, as a Swifty 79 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: that was very fitting. But I also think it's very 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: ominous of Obj, and he knows exactly what he's doing 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: and essentially what I can appreciate about Obj is he 82 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: knows his worth when he's healthy, and that's huge. You 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: know you're worth your Obj. We all know you're worth. 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: We all know what's scary going into this kind of 85 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: sight unseen If you will is will Obj be the 86 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: same Obj that you know him as you know pre 87 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: injury And you're talking double the injury at this point, 88 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: and so I think, bless you. I think what's interesting 89 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: going forward is the reality set in for Jerry kind 90 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: of everybody else too. I think is the week went on, 91 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: and that's all we've been talking about. That's all we've 92 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: been scooping about, is you know Obj, Obj. I think 93 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: the reality set in. Oh wait, this is a serious 94 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: injury he's coming off of. This isn't something little. This 95 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: isn't something that's just going to go away essentially if 96 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: it's not taken care of correctly. So I think reality 97 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: is setting in a little bit now, and it became 98 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: more of a tangled web than I think anybody anticipated 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: from it while you were talking, because something that I've 100 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: tried to be fair about in this is that this 101 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: is a courtship to your point, right, it's not just 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: the cowboys who were interested there's two other teams who 103 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: were seriously interested in making an offer, as well as 104 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: other teams, the Chiefs. I think the Ravens were also 105 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: on that list. And if you're to believe Mike Florio 106 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: of PFT, which this feels like agents spend to me, 107 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Yeah, I don't y're interested in everybody. I 108 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: can't see that happening. But to your point, you know, 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: we've spent so much time talking about how he fits 110 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: in well with the Cowboys, that guys have been actively 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: recruiting him, and it kind of just dawned on me 112 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: as you were talking. I was like, well, what did 113 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: the bills say for his visit? What did the Giants say? 114 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: So I just did a quick Google search and the 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: first thing that comes up when you google OBJ bills 116 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: is von Miller's surgery, so that you speaks to the 117 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: level of maybe not interest, but the amount that it's 118 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: being talked about. And then I did the Giants, and 119 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't even come up, like literally, it 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: says Cowboys Jerry Jones on Odell Beckham junior visit. We 121 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: want it to work. And that's when I typed into 122 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: OBJ Giant's visit and So I think the positive in 123 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: that the ball is kind of in Jerry's court because 124 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say there's no competition per se. 125 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: There's always going to be other people who are vying 126 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: for his attention because he is who he has been 127 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: in the past. So I think that gives Jerry a 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: little bit more leniency to say, like, I'm not going 129 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: to give him an offer right now. Why would I. 130 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: We talked about it yesterday. I want to win right now. 131 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: So in my head and again like I'm just still 132 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm learning all of this, so this is just my 133 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: brain processing in real time. Now It's like, Okay, well 134 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: I want him on the team, but if he's not 135 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: going to contribute now, how can I build something that's 136 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: going to get him to be on the team and 137 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: be a contributor maybe in the future. Is that something 138 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: that's manageable? And so maybe that's what he's saying. I'm 139 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: just trying to think outside the box swallow things because 140 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: now we've got James Washington coming back to practice. We 141 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: don't know what he's going to contribute if he does it. 142 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: All we talked yesterday, There's a lot of other free 143 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: agents that are coming up next year that are going 144 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: to have contracts worked out. So I just think it's interesting. 145 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: But I do think that the benefit is that he 146 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: wants to be here, the team wants him here. It's 147 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: just got to look right for everybody. Well quick, I 148 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: want to interject there. I do wonder if OBJ has 149 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: soured based on some of the content that we've put 150 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: out there. I mean, look, this is Dallas. This is 151 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: not unique to OBJ. We saw this with the Dack discussions. 152 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of US reporters in this market. You know. 153 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: On this story alone, I've probably talked to eight different 154 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: sort is on both sides, and so we're going to 155 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: ask the questions and I don't think maybe they don't 156 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: ask the questions and other markets, there's just such an 157 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: appetite for every morsel of news in Dallas as it 158 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: relates to OBJ. And I wonder if that's sours OBJ 159 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, because I know the New York media 160 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: kind of soured him when he was up there the 161 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: first time. I wonder if that's ours in But to 162 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: your point, Haley, I've said this last week and I'll 163 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: say it again. I think OBJ needs the Cowboys more 164 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: than they need him. We're talking about the Giants. If 165 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about a win now situation, the Cowboys are 166 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: built for success right now, and we're seeing things sort 167 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: of coming together now. We'll get into this in our 168 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: next hour. My big concern is the corner position. But 169 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: if I'm Obj, everything that comes with Dallas. And I 170 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: was even talking to one of the players in there 171 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: that's had discussions with Micah how much he wanted to 172 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: stay and not move. He wanted this to be a 173 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: place for his family. It's a lot of players here 174 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: that come to Dallas that stay and don't move, no 175 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: state income tax. I think it's very appealing to people 176 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: that are at their stage in life. But I just 177 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: wonder if this with Obj's ego, because we've seen this, 178 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: I've dealt with a type of receiver, a few type 179 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: of receivers like Obj this sort of stuff. They like 180 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: to be courted, they like to be treated a certain way, 181 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: and I do wonder if some of these storylines are 182 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: souring him. And that's why his tweet today was very 183 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: interesting to me. He's playing, yeah, playing this well in 184 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: the game. Well that's my That's what my question was 185 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: for YouTube ladies with like you were talking about with 186 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the Giants, and you know what was the other team 187 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: he met with the Bills. The Bills, we didn't get 188 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: any of this type of information, that kind of stuff. 189 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: And one thing I will say is that that Cowboys 190 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: training staff is pretty highly touted in the NFL. People 191 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: are going to trust to me a lot of what 192 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: they say regarding a player because they've shown numerous times 193 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: they can take players that have key, crazy injuries and 194 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: make them moon flower. I mean even lvee like these, 195 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: They've shown they can take guys and this training staff 196 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: is capable. So when even when you talk about like 197 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, some of maybe some of the souring the 198 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: credibility with the Cowboys, with the Cowboys training staff's where 199 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: it is important. But then also when you talk about 200 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: this being a win win for OBJ, this again one 201 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: of the better training staffs in the NFL, and you've 202 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: seen he has evidence of guys coming back from similar 203 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: injuries or even injuries more serious than him. I think 204 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: it also too, if you were going to get him 205 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: in the building, one benefit for him would be being 206 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: with this staff to get him where he needs to be. 207 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: Who has successfully gotten guys back from ACLS. I think 208 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: that there's also been a question of how effective his 209 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: rehab has been, how dedicated he's been to that, and 210 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: that's half of to me why they're so iffy about it. 211 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: I do think if this is if their staff, the 212 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys staff had an eye on him, was going through 213 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: his rehab, saw everything that was going on, that maybe 214 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: this would be a different situation. But they didn't perform surgeries. 215 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: They didn't do any of that, and I understand some 216 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: of the concern. It's it's um. I can't say it's disappointing, 217 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: but I'm definitely can feel the energy from even the 218 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: players being like, all right, let's as wrapped up. Let's 219 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: wrap this up like you can feel that. I don't 220 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: keep in mind, sorry, keep in mind. Michael Gallup, Jalen 221 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: Smith all had surgery with doctor Dan Cooper, who is 222 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys team doctor. If there's anyone that knows anything 223 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: about ACL injuries, it's doctor Dan Cooper, So they're likely 224 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: going through his medicals. Now. I did put Stephen on 225 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: the spot today when we caught up with them outside 226 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: the locker room. I go, how do you feel about 227 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: if Dan Cooper had done the surgery? Would you guys 228 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: have had a different thought process on this. That's a 229 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: great question. He didn't answer it the way that I'd 230 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: wanted him to, but he did say that he respected 231 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: the doctor who did Obj's surgery. But I do wonder 232 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: if he had gotten the surgery with Dan Cooper. I 233 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: think it's, as one person described it to me, would 234 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: you drill it well without a topography map? And I 235 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: think that's what they're working with. I mean, they're sort 236 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: of going on this outside information with Obj and sort 237 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: of flying a little blind here, and it's a big investment. 238 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: And again, I still think Jerry's a wild card. I 239 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: still think Jerry could still do it, but I get 240 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: a sense a lot of the people in the building 241 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: are sort of trying to walk him off the ledge 242 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: on this, and he still could be the top, Like 243 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken looking at the free agent wide 244 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: receiver market in the offseason, if he's healthy, he still 245 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: could be at the top of that list. And so 246 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: it's funny you say that. I sha, again there's another 247 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: terrible analogy. But my mom is trying to sell a 248 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 1: conduct they've got in Chicago because she's going through the 249 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: cancer and they'd like to pull that out cancer is 250 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: very expensive. It's not getting any bites and as one 251 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: of my girlfriends said, she needs to pull the house 252 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: off the market, reset its market value, then offer incentives 253 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: and that's how you get it sold. I'm like you, 254 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't. I've got a bunch of teams 255 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: that aren't making any offers and jockeying for me. I 256 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: think he thought by putting out some of these videos 257 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: and we're talking about it the way that we are 258 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: on all these national shows, that it was kind of 259 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: like chum in the water people, it's creating a feeding 260 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: frenzy for him. And it was there until it's like 261 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: it's time to show up. Right. It's like, we saw 262 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: your workout videos, but you can't run routes. I haven't 263 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: seen you cut, like these are the things that are important. 264 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: It was the same sort of concerns that people had 265 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: for Dez Bryant when he was working out for the 266 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: Saints and with the Ravens, and so there are notable concerns. 267 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: And Jerry told us in the locker room, and I 268 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: asked him about this whole making the uncomfortable decision. I 269 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: think he's prepared to make an uncomfortable decision. But I 270 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people that are asking themselves. 271 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: Just this talk got our guys like Ceedee Lamb and 272 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: Michael Gallop going, if we can get some consistency from 273 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: these guys, do we need a guy like Obj? You 274 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: can even talk about OBJ knowing the maybe not the 275 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: extent of it, but knowing the media frenzy that was 276 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: going to happen to come to Dallas to make him 277 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: more valuable and put more out there for him as 278 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: far as his for other teams go, because nobody else 279 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: is going to deep dive into Obj like the local 280 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: media here it did. I mean, nobody else is going 281 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: to do it. And that's just the nature of a 282 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: big name like OBJ coming to somewhere like Dallas. And 283 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: so I think it kind of he used the media 284 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: baiting a little bit to his advantage, but also I 285 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: think it kind of had an opposite effect in a way. 286 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: It's backfired a little bit, and I just wonder if 287 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: it's hurt his marketing. Yeah, and I think at first 288 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: it was great. Everybody was so hype on the OBJ 289 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: train and yes, let's do it, let's go. But then 290 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: now with all of the medicals and knowing everything that 291 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: you know could potentially come out and has come out 292 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: since the visit. It's interesting to wonder if that backfired 293 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: and now he's kind of just taken too long. I 294 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: think that's just the reality of the situation, and like 295 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, sure, you have to make sure that you're 296 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: going through every checkbox. You have to make sure. I 297 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: think the medical thing was just the icing on the cake. 298 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: But the fact that we started talking about this during 299 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: the bye week or right after the week. It's now 300 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: we're going into our second week of December, and the 301 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: guys have figured it out. They got it together. Whether 302 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: it was the OBJ motivation factor or the DAK coming back, 303 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: a combination of the two, or some intrinsic thing that's 304 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: motivating them. Regardless of what it is, they're figuring it out. 305 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: And I think you now have these two games where 306 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: they beat up on the Colts, they should beat up 307 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: on the Texans, they should beat up on the Jaguars 308 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: before they get ready for their biggest game of the 309 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: season with the Eagles. You've got all that time to prep. 310 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: It just kind of feels like at this point like 311 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: that's it. Like like you said, the wow is gone 312 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: the appeal is gone, like they just want to move on. 313 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: Because again, if he had come out here and done 314 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: a workout, yeah and here it was healthy, he would 315 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: not have left this building out. The check signs the 316 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: guy that can contribute immediately now. Then on the flip side, 317 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: I think you have to ask yourself, Okay, if he 318 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: resets his market value, is it better to get him 319 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: cheap now and build in some injury protections. You've got 320 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: him in house and you're sort of built for next year. 321 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean part of me thinks the 322 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys because they've sort of been successful. I mean just 323 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: look at this roster and what they've done on defense 324 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: and some of these offensive pieces the offensive line. I 325 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: think they still believe they can do these things through 326 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: the draft and youth is the way to go in 327 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: the smaller contracts. And we may be looking at this 328 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: thing very different. I mean, we may be looking at 329 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: this thing going you should have given up the second 330 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: round pick for Brandon Cooks. You know, it feels so 331 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: long ago. Why not a Marie Cooper? You could have 332 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: kept a Marie Cooper. I don't think you can second 333 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: guess those things, but I do think that thing stands out. 334 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: If Obj could have played and have been healthy, I 335 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: think we'd be having a completely different discussion. And he 336 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: may very well be able to play book. Guys, we're 337 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: talking about the timelines. I was asking someone how to 338 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: long did it take for a wide receiver to get 339 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: acclimated just to the playbook. Remember, as Mike mccarthio told 340 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: us after his first year that the terminology for Kellen 341 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Moore's offense was a little different. It took him a 342 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: little bit to get up to speed. And now they're 343 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: really on the same page. Whatever, it's going to be 344 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: a whole different playbook, different terminology. It's gonna take him 345 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: a little bit of time to get acclimated, not just 346 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: from a physical standpoint, but from the mental aspect of 347 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: just knowing how this offense works. And so yeah, I 348 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: gotta like and I'm not trying to sit here and say, 349 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: let me cushion Cowboy fans. We were the ones that 350 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: got you all excited about this. I told you that 351 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: I thought that this was the realest free agent pursuit 352 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: that they've had stuff covered this team, and I believe 353 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: all that, But things can change when you get someone 354 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: in the building and that's remember Jerry kept telling us, 355 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: I just got to get him in the building. We 356 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: got to get our hands on them, and they weren't 357 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: really able to get their hands on it. And I 358 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: think that's what scares them a little bit, and that's 359 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: where the pause is coming from. But again to your point, 360 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what even this discussion has done to 361 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: his market value. Maybe Jerry's still able to get this 362 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 1: thing done. Maybe they're having these conversations, but I just 363 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: feel like the enthusiasm for this, not just with Jerry, 364 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: but I feel the locker room when you listen to 365 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: some of these guys, has sort of waned a little bit. Yeah, 366 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: it would be a I mean, the only the only thing. 367 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: The only way I look at it is as like, 368 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, your receiver corps is not I don't know, 369 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: it's not top heavier, if any means. So, maybe he's 370 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: a you know, a guy that you prepare for if 371 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: there is an injury. But at this point I look 372 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: at this as a maybe we have you here next 373 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: year thing because of the free agent market, and then 374 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: also too, you don't know if they're going to be 375 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: going cornerback in first round. Yet it's also a game 376 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: of pros and cons at that point with the free agency, 377 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: because you have guys like Noah Brown and Tony Pollard 378 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: that you you look at the success they've had this season, 379 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: specifically Tony Pollard. To me, that's top of the food chain, 380 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: top of the line priority. When offseason rolls around. It's 381 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: not necessarily OBJ immediately. It's if all of these things 382 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: can work out and the puzzle piece fits where it 383 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: may okay ob J later down the road. But also, 384 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: there's a long list of free for this Cowboys team 385 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: coming up this offseason. I mean, and you're I'm just 386 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: naming a couple offensive players. You even have people like 387 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Brett Maha to worry about and things you need to 388 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: lock down before you can start getting the shiny new toy. 389 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: You need your current weapons that are working with the scheme, 390 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: with the coaching, with the environment that they have been 391 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: working with all years. So I think the discussion of 392 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: OBJ in the future is an interesting one if it 393 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: can fit when everything else is taken care of first. 394 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: I think if it doesn't happen now, it probably won't 395 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: happen down the road. Considering the long list of free 396 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: agents there, I just think we went from a position 397 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: of need ahead of the bye week to now this 398 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: feels like a luxury item. I mean, we'd always talked 399 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: about as an additive with the way that these guys 400 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: were playing, but it now feels like this luxury item 401 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: that when I go shopping, there are just some basic 402 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: needs that I have at the house. Do I really 403 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: need that? Your analogies are on. I know they're crazy, 404 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: but tiring you guys mention it though tiring come in back, 405 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: and if Tying is coming back and he's tiring, you know, 406 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: if you can run the ball out, if you can 407 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: run the area at the ball that passes, go to 408 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: open up for you. Eventually are people are going to 409 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: be dedicated, dedicated gentleman to that box. So I mean, ceedee, 410 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: Lamb's emerging. You see what he's doing with Michael Galub's 411 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: getting healthy. But also we talked about it, and we 412 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: talked about a numerous times those tight ends. The users 413 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: of the tight ends also, I think gives you some 414 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: flexibility here when you talk about the receiving core, because 415 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: you have guys that can get after it. You're right, 416 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: like the tidings to open up the timing. This OBJ 417 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: discussion really started was post Packers game, when everybody in 418 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: this feeling and this building was feeling a type of 419 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: way after that loss. And so now with this wind 420 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: stretch that the Cowboys have had and the success that 421 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: they've really been growing upon, given they're not playing the 422 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: best teams, That's what I'm saying. But I don't know 423 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: if I trusted, but there's improvement and especially in Kryptonites 424 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: within you know, the run defense or establishing the run game, 425 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: utilizing the one two punch enough, giving Zeke more touches 426 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: on the ball, and what have you. It's a very 427 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: different team than you were talking about post Packer's loss 428 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: compared to you know, going into December football and where 429 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: its trajectory is now. It's an interesting discussion. I love 430 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: it around here. I feel like when the wind blows 431 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: a lot in different directions here at the Cowboys. Like 432 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: I said, new information typically does that which you were 433 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: talking a little bit about Tyrn Smith. I think this 434 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: is a big piece of the puzzle. What Mike McCarthy 435 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: had to say about just this receiver group Dack in 436 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: recent weeks and then getting Tyrn Smith back, what that 437 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: ultimately means for the playbook we'll talk that, plus what 438 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: I think is one of the most concerning positions now 439 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: on the team that's getting lost in some of this 440 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: obj news. We'll have that and more on the other 441 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: side of this very long first a block. 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We'll get some injury updates here at a second, 480 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: But one of the bigger storylines stay lost in all 481 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: this OPJ discussion that I think is more relevant for 482 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: this offense and its productivity, the return of Tyler's Tyrn Smith. 483 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to get used to that lady Tyrann 484 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: Smith to practice. We haven't seen him since god, right 485 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: before Week one. I'll never forget being on the blue 486 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: carpets as they had their intro to the season and 487 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: asking all of the players, and it literally felt like 488 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: the sky was falling completely. I feel like playing over 489 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: some of the expectations that I think a lot of 490 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: us had for Tyler Smith was the rookie over there 491 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: at the left side, and I think a lot of 492 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: people are wondering, all right, Tyron Smith returned to practice, 493 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: when can we see him next? I asked this question. 494 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: It's my understanding we could see him against Jacksonville. He likely, 495 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: and again these things changed debating on how practice goes 496 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: for him, but where we saw some of that subben 497 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: about some some fans watch these games, they don't pick 498 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: up on that, but I think some of us were 499 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: kind of like, didn't you see that they were switching 500 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith out at different positions from left tackle left guard, 501 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: And it felt a little disjointing to the flow of 502 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: the game against the Colts. But there was a method 503 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: to the madness. In other words, they're going to be 504 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: subbing in Tyrant Smith a little bit. And you gotta 505 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: love the position flex and the wherewithal of Tyler Smith 506 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: to be able to do that in game. So I 507 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: think we'll see that against Jacksonville and then it sounds 508 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: like they really like him to be able to start 509 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: against the Eagles, and I think that's big show. Why 510 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: do you think that that's big because when you look 511 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: at the film as it relates to this offense, it's 512 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: beginning to find it's rhythm in recent weeks. Yes, is 513 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: a luxury. It is like when you talk about a luxury, 514 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: any team that can add a you know, level of 515 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: left tackle at this state in the in the season 516 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: and get better on the offensive line is I mean, 517 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 1: I think it's impressive. And with Tyrn we saw some 518 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: of those combo blocks with him and Tyler Camp and 519 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: they're moving people out of the way. And when you 520 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: start talking about, like we talked about this receiving corps 521 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: and some of the questions or whatever, the Cowboys are 522 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: already they are dominant in the run game in some instances, 523 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: and to take a tick up from that also too, 524 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: we talked about like Cowboys also too, when they're passing 525 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: the ball, they go max pro a lot like max 526 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: pass Pro, and that takes a lot of your tight 527 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: that takes your tight end. That as a receiving option, 528 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: and with Tyrn being in I would hope that you 529 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to send help over there and that you're 530 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: going to have more options in the middle of the 531 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: field with some of these short yarder situations and third 532 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: downs tyring and also with the communication this is important 533 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: moving forward going on the road and all that communication 534 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: stuff we've seen that be an issue sometimes on that 535 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: left side with McGovern and Tyler, just get a more 536 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: experienced player and I think they can dominate there and 537 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: that's to me, time of possession. All this stuff that's 538 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: going to be important going into the playoffs and into 539 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: the postseason. He's a good addition. Yeah, I agree. I 540 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: just think Mike McCarthy's quote today when he said, any 541 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: time Tyron Smith is on the field is a good 542 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: day for the Dallas Cowboys. You think that, Like enough 543 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: said drops Mike. You know, when you have a veteran 544 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: guy who has given so much to this organization just 545 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: all across the board, it is a luxury to have 546 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: him on. But it's also like, why wouldn't you want 547 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: to find a way to work because I know that, 548 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: Like whenever the conversations of him first coming back, there 549 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: was float around where it was like, well, where's he 550 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: gonna fit? And I'm like, what do you mean? Where's 551 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: he gonna fit? Like, he's gonna fit where he wants 552 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: to fit, because if he's there, you put him on 553 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: the field. To your point, I think it just helps 554 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: the run game. I think it helps the pass game. 555 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: He really just the way Dak came back and elevated 556 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: the offense, you know, while Cooper was standing in And 557 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: not that I'm comparing Cooper to Tyler Smith, but just 558 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: in that same regard, you put your veteran guy back 559 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: on and you see what happens when Dat comes back. Now, 560 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: you're adding another veteran guy with Tyrann Smith back on 561 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: that offensive line. You want to talk about being contenders 562 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl. That's first half of the recipe. 563 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: But again, you're not able to Sorry, Jess, again, you're 564 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: not able to do that unless you've got a rookie 565 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: like Tyler Smith can move out to guard, because you 566 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: could find yourself going we want to continue going more youthful. 567 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: It's a cheaper contract. Why disrupt a guy that's over 568 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: there at left tackle and credit to Tyler Smith that 569 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: they feel comfortable enough kicking him back out to left guard. 570 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: That to your point, you have the luxury of having 571 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith. Now, I think it's gonna be interesting with 572 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: the discussion is going to be this offseason at training 573 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: camp because he is getting long in the tooth, which 574 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: is crazy because Tyrone was so young when he came here. 575 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: What they're gonna do with that situation. But in order 576 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: to go up against teams like the Eagles, the Titans 577 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: when we start talking the postseason, you absolutely want Tyron 578 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: protecting Dak's blindside because it just gives you more time 579 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: for Dak to make smart decisions getting the ball to 580 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: his guys. And then to your point running the ball. 581 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: I was also going to say, too, we haven't seen 582 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: an O line who potentially as the versatility to have 583 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Jason Peters and Tyron Smith within the same set. Oh 584 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: my goodness, talk about striking the fear into defenses and 585 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: wearing them down. I mean, you have that versatility, You 586 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: have that option for this season because Jason Peters another 587 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: free agent, You're going to have to decide on what's best, 588 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, come off season. But something else I wanted 589 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: to mention too was Tyrone's mental toughness. This guy is tough. 590 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean physically he's a tank, right, and then just 591 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: the mental toughness I was telling the girls earlier. I 592 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: was telling ali all when before we started recording. I 593 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: was there the night at training camp when he got 594 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: injured and the snap was so loud. Everybody that was 595 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: in the Ford Center kind of got silent because we 596 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: all knew something happened. Saw him go down. But then 597 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: you see him get up and he's walking off by himself. 598 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: Such a freaking out. It was serious because he walked 599 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: he walked off. But his own teammates said the same thing, 600 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: or remember a lot of them even Dak we'd asked 601 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: him abou because I remember asking the guys, you know, 602 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: where were you, what did you see? And they all 603 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: literally thought nothing of it. And to have missed him 604 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: this minute, I mean, we're talking week fourteen coming back. 605 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: That's crazy. To be honest, it didn't sound like an 606 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: injury sneak. It sounded like something kind of fell, but 607 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: it was loud enough that everybody kind of got silent 608 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: and you look around, but then you see him walking off. 609 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: So to read later when the reports came out of 610 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: what the injury actually was, it was very telling for 611 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: his toughness because he walked off. Oh my goodness, I 612 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: stubbed my toe. Sometimes I'm not walking on that like 613 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: I get a light cramp in the middle of the night. 614 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm crying about it. I mean, that is just the 615 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: mental toughness of this guy. The leadership, the veteran leadership 616 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: that can be brought to this OH line, and then 617 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: to have Tyler Smith working with both him and Jason 618 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: Peters like he has been, Oh my goodness, You're not 619 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: only building up the team as it is in the 620 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: now with the OH Line, with the versatility, you're also 621 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: building up your future when you have Tyler Smith working 622 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: under guys like that, and I think that, to me 623 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: is the most important investment is you're building up this 624 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: young guy who, if you go back to that same 625 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: point in time, wasn't supposed to have the starting job. 626 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy had said at that point, Yeah, where things 627 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: stand right now, Tyler Smith wouldn't be starting. And then 628 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: Tyron gets injured and then the rest is history. The 629 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: stars aligned for for Tyler and everything that we've seen transpire. 630 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: But I think also too, it can help with the discipline, 631 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: and it can help with the mental focus to really 632 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: really finally shut me up about the penalties, the pre 633 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: snap penalties that this old line has really been struggling 634 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: with throughout the season. How about that the three penalties 635 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: for only forty three yards and this one talk about 636 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: there's your mental focus. And again I love it when 637 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't love um is the cornerback situation. You know, 638 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: you lost Jordan Lewis, now you've lost Anthony Brown. You know, 639 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: when talking to one of my sources, I said, are 640 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: you guys going to be back to fall out there 641 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: on the free agent in the waiver, They said, there's 642 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: really not a lot out there, and it's true when 643 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: you look at some of the free agents that are 644 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: out there, and so what did the Cowboys have. Well, 645 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph is the guy. But now might be an 646 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: opportunity for you, Haley, to give us a little injury 647 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: update as it relates to not only Kelvin but a 648 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: couple of other players. Yes, Kelvin Joseph, I feel like 649 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: we're not talking to my Mike. Kelvin Joseph and Sam 650 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: Williams both out with an illness, and Mike did tell 651 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: us after the press conference and his walk off that 652 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: there were a few guys who were still battling whatever 653 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: the mystery bug that has affected this locker room, which 654 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: real quick. My neighbor is she's a doctor, and she 655 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: told me that they have just gotten a real amount 656 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: of cases of flu right now, Like it is so bad. 657 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: I had one girlfriend that passed out recently. Yeah, she 658 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: was out and about passed out from the flu. So 659 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: it is going around. My family just had the flu. 660 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's everywhere right now, So wash your 661 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: hands every funny I doubt. Yeah, So those are the 662 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: two biggest they didn't practice. Quentin Bohanna was I did 663 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: see him out working today. He was limited, but I 664 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: did see him out working with the rest of the 665 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: defensive line, so that's good. No Jonathan Hankins today, he 666 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: was out with a personal reason. Yeah, that was confusing. 667 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: I thought I said personal illness, and I was like, 668 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: what does that mean. J Ron Curse with the shoulder 669 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: injury he's been dealing with since last week, he was 670 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: limited once again, and then DeMarcus Lawrence still on their 671 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: limited with his foot. As for the Texans, and we 672 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: were chatting a little bit about this before because we're 673 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: gonna get into the matchup after this, the offense is 674 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: fine relative speaking. Brandon Cooks as a calf injury, I 675 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: think he's had for a couple of weeks now. He 676 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: was out so he didn't practice today with that same injury. 677 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: But he's really the only guy in the offense that 678 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: is lacking on. Nico Collins is on here as well 679 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: with a foot injury. Didn't practice. Another wide receiver. Their 680 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: defensive line, though, is unwell, to say the least, a 681 00:33:54,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: knee injury, guy who was resting a foot injury, shoulder, stay, hamstring, ankle, 682 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: so a lot and RP to those men we'll talk. 683 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: We'll talk plenty about the Texans and what they're dealing 684 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: with on the other side of our break, but let's 685 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: talk the corner situation for the Cowboys. So Kelvin Joseph 686 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: is the air apparent, it sounds like, but he's not here, 687 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: which is a little concerning. We'll see he was sick 688 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, um sick again. So in the absence, 689 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: we've got a Sheffield, who is a guy that has 690 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: familiarity with dan Quinn's defense, was with him in Atlanta. 691 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you, guys, but call 692 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: me crazy. If I'm find them, I'm like, I'm going 693 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: with the veteran. But that doesn't sound like what they're 694 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: trying to do. He of course is on the practice squad, 695 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: so anticipate him to get elevated. They signed McKinsey Alexander, 696 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: and you have a little familiarity with McKinsey Alexander, Yeah, 697 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: just a little. He was with the Dolphins for a 698 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: few weeks before I left to come here, and I 699 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: know the coaching st a spoke very highly of him. 700 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: He kind of fit into a similar role as he 701 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: was doing here where the Dolphins were just depleted at 702 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: that position. I mean, they were banking on Byron Jones 703 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: coming back, and we still haven't seen him play a 704 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: snap with that achilles injury. Yeah, so they kind of 705 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: went through the Ringer the way we are going through 706 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: the Ringer right now. So I haven't seen a lot 707 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: of him personally. I know he was out at practice 708 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: a little bit today, but the vibe, at least from 709 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: the Dolphins perspective, is very similar to what Mike McCarthy 710 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: said about him in the press conference today. He's a 711 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: guy that brings a lot of experience, a little bit 712 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: of familiarity. Personally. I believe that he is coming in 713 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: to be almost a motivator to a degree. I mean, 714 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: he can play, right, so that's always a positive. But 715 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: when you've got guys like Nashan right who Mike McCarthy 716 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: is saying this morning that he could play in any 717 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: game or whatever his verbiage was today, he's just young. 718 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: I think you bring him in plenty of young guys. Yeah, 719 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: that was confusing to me. Yeah, I put that as 720 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: a question mark in my notes, But I think he 721 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: just brings kind of another level of competition into that 722 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: room to see does he spark any sort of you know, 723 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: in a practice body. I mean, that's what you need. Yeah, 724 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: So I think he's a great guy. I think he's 725 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: a good addition when you're thinking about you know, veteran 726 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: experience and providing that leadership for some of the younger guys. 727 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: So I'm just interested to see how he works in 728 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm more interested in Kendall Sheffield because this was a 729 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: guy that was brought in weeks ago who we really 730 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: haven't even had a reason to talk about until now. 731 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: So I'd like to see what he brings if he 732 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: is elevated in what capacity. You just worry when you 733 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: look at you know, there's nothing to worry about. We'll 734 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: get into that on the other side of the break, 735 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: which we're going to take care to second against the 736 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: Texans in terms of some of their weapons. But when 737 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: I just think of the Eagles and trying to shut 738 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: them down without your two starting corners, I mean, j 739 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: Ron Bland's done a great job. Of course, you've got 740 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs, but that is an area of concern and 741 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown's had moments this year where he was kind 742 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: of getting burned. And so we'll see if these young 743 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: guys can step up. Yeah, whoever you bring in or 744 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: you put at that position, they're gonna have to have 745 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: a mental toughness through through this world because you have 746 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: to prepare them for the fact they're going to be 747 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: picked on. And it's such a like I think that's 748 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: just such a thing. Even with Anthony Brown that doesn't 749 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: get discussed. It's just like I asked Dan Quinn about this, like, 750 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: what do you say to a guy like during the week, 751 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: when you prepare him for the fact that you're probably 752 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna get all the targets. It's not the norm to 753 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: have a shut down corner next to you. It's not 754 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: the norm in the NFL. There's not that many of them. 755 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: And so whoever the gentleman is, they have to instill 756 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: confidence in him. He has to have practices like guys 757 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: gotta hype him up. They have to mentally prepare whoever 758 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: it is that's feeling that spot because they're going to 759 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: be the highlighted point. Because if you're going at this defense, 760 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: that's probably, especially with them starting to show up, the 761 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: run game, maybe the only weak point. And so also 762 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: your safety's communication. All this stuff is going to have 763 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: to be on point. So it's weird that you're having 764 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: Like they always talk about the competition, there's a real 765 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: competition at corner right now at the end of the season. 766 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: It's it's a unique thing. I'm actually excited to see 767 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: who comes out on top because in this instance, you 768 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: know what's going to be the best guy. There's no favoritism, 769 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: like it has to be the best guy. And I 770 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: also think they're not afraid to pull a guy if 771 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: he's not playing well. So it's a I haven't seen 772 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: it in season like this before, in this situation. But 773 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: the good thing for us is that we get to 774 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: evaluate on a real level. There's no like. We get 775 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: to evaluate these guys and see them in game, and 776 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: they have opportunities. I did talk about that today too, 777 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: when asked about Kelvin Joseph. He said, we know, we 778 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: know he's gonna get targeted. We've seen it happen before. 779 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: We know that he's going to be put to the test, 780 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: So it's something that they're preparing for. So I love 781 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: that you mentioned that. So it sounds like dan quinneys 782 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: to do it. Mike mc daniel, did Tua just tell 783 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: him how greedy is before we go. I'm looking at 784 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: how those guys are gonna just have to be like 785 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: high pit of up about everything. I mean, because these 786 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: are these are young guys, and one of the with Corner, 787 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: one of the biggest things is if their confidence is shaken, 788 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: you see it from the moment the ball is snapped. 789 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: So everybody that whoever has taken over that too spot, 790 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: everybody gotta be rooting for that and that mental toughness 791 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: is a conversation that started with the old line, but 792 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: can definitely be taken at the corner conversation as well 793 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: because guess who else has penalties Kelvin Joseph Arnicle, And 794 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: we went down that list yesterday. So I'm not going 795 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: to do it again to y'all, but I will say 796 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: it is going to put him to the test for 797 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: the player that he is now, but furthermore, the player 798 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: he wants to be, a more disciplined, focused player. Overall, 799 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: No Josh Norman, no Jalen Ramsey's out there, They're going 800 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: to do with what they've got right now. All right, 801 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: we'll take our second and final break. On the other side, 802 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: We'll briefly scout the Texans because that's all we need. 803 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: We need about two minutes to scout him. 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Nothing like a 848 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: good long read when we have so much time. Well, ladies, 849 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: we're not going to need a lot of time, and 850 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: I'm not here tomorrow, so I'm sorry that you guys 851 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: get to deep dive into these Texans, but we'll give 852 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: you a quick refresher here. One ten and one fourth 853 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: in the AFC South. They have the worst offense in 854 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: the league and there's only a few other in front 855 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: of them for worse defense. Jess, what should the Cowboys 856 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: keep an eye on? We talk about playmakers, Well, I 857 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's a playmaker, but if Cooks is not playing, 858 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: somebody to keep an eye on is Nico Collins. If 859 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 1: he's not playing, well, I'm sorry. That's the injury bugs 860 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: going around for them. Wide receiver Chris Moore. He had 861 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: fifty five percent of the snap counts last week. He 862 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: averages about eleven point six yards per catch. He did 863 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: have two season two touchdowns so far this season, and 864 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: his breakout game was last week against the Brown PA. 865 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, but I will say they are going 866 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: to try to establish their run game with running back 867 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: Damian Pierce, who his best game, surprisingly was against the 868 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles in Week eight. He had one hundred and 869 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: thirty nine yards average five point one yards per carry, 870 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: and had twenty seven touches on the ball. Keep in 871 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: mind last week he had seventy two percent of the 872 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: snap counts. There's even more, but I will spare y'all 873 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it more tomorrow. I just had 874 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: anxiety thinking about storylines that I've got to come up 875 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: with for four hours of NFL game day morning before 876 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: this one, Jess, we got a pass interference where we 877 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 1: wrap this up all right? Well, the Cowboys have played 878 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: the Texans every four years since the year two thousand 879 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: and two and have a record of three and two 880 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: against them. In that time, the Cowboys have scored eleven touchdowns, 881 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: averaging a little bit more than two per game. I 882 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: highly expect we'll see more than that during this game 883 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: a total of ninety one first downs and they average 884 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: about eighteen first downs per game there. And get this, 885 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: they have a total of one thousand, seven hundred and 886 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: fifty four offensive yards for the Cowboys and allowing the 887 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: Texans offense to have fifteen or one thousand, five hundred 888 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: and seventy four yards there. So there's there's that. Well Cowboys, Yeah, 889 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: what a trollphy? You don't know. I'm want a trophy 890 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: or some for what they if they win the game. 891 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: It's like a Texan body, they won a trophy. Yeah, 892 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: it don't make no sins. That's very college. It's like SFA. 893 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: And when I did Southland Football Conference, you would get 894 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: like it was like yeah, Cato or whatever. It's like, yeah, 895 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 1: it's funny. You google Texans Cowboys and the first thing 896 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: is like this, it is not a rivalry. You're like, Okay, relax, 897 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: it's fine. It's not though. I mean, it's like Venus 898 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: and who the other girl who she always beats up 899 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: or not Venus, I'm sorry Serena and the other girls 900 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 1: she always beats up Maria Chio. It's not a rivalry. 901 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: It's right, can't rivalry about her sister, Like Texas and 902 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 1: Texas A and m D. Well, it's gonna be an 903 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: interesting game. Here's the deal. The Cowboys needed to do 904 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: a better job of not letting these terrible teams hang around. 905 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,240 Speaker 1: We certainly saw that against the Colts when they decided 906 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: to finally uh separate themselves in the fourth quarter with 907 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: thirty three points already. Cowboys, I feel like they're really sluggish, 908 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: particularly when it's noon kicks. So we'll see how this 909 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: one goes, because I really don't want to see this 910 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: offense hit a skid against this team. Because the conversations 911 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: and the uh the storylines will be covering that week 912 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: will be interesting. But I am not here tomorrow. This 913 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 1: is you, ladies, excited to listen in, but hopefully on Monday, 914 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: you guys are talking about a victory Monday. 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