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Speaker 1: The first question we asked everybody is when you first

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Speaker 2: Man, that's a tough question. Man. You know, my pride

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Speaker 2: would say nobody bust my ass. But you know what, honestly,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be. You know, the first person busted my

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Speaker 2: ass was Fite Scottie Pippen. Man, my first game was

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Speaker 2: against the Bulls ninety six, so you gotta imagine for me.

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Speaker 2: I was a Bulls fan for the first three championships,

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Speaker 2: loving them. And man, my first NBA real game is

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Speaker 2: against the Chicago Bulls. So I'm just trying to figure

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Speaker 2: out how to score in the league. This is my

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Speaker 2: first game. I'm trying to play with the ball now

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Speaker 2: off my leg. You get deflections, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be aggressive with the ball. And then another

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Speaker 2: thing athletic, EFFI, you gotta get into your shot. You

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Speaker 2: gotta you know, you gotta have a little trick reato

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Speaker 2: it to get there. So all those little things played

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Speaker 2: the part that made him tough to me. Pip was

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Speaker 2: one of the best defenders out there.

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Speaker 3: Yo, Yo, live on location.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, me and a black is one here staying at home,

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Speaker 4: staying safe and out of the way in Orlando, Florida

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Speaker 4: and today. Yo, this is so super special and dope

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Speaker 4: to the both of us.

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Speaker 3: Y'all don't know how deep this go.

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Speaker 4: Man, We got our super o g Man, one of

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Speaker 4: the original Shottown killers. Man represent a super super duper

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Speaker 4: big time college champion, NBA champion and he need to

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Speaker 4: be in the whopaul in my book. And he definitely

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Speaker 4: Chicago royalty when it comes to this thing. We got

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Speaker 4: walked off Cybertwine employee number eight Antoine walk in the building.

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Speaker 3: Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thanks having me all, guys, I appreciate it. Been waiting

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Speaker 2: for a long time coming for me to be on

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Speaker 2: your show. So I'm excited about it. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: Coming up in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Chicago got a lot of high schools, and a lot

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And what made you choose Mount Carmel out of all

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Speaker 1: the other high schools you went to? You know, King

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Speaker 3: What made you choose Mount Carmel.

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Speaker 2: Man, That's a great question. A lot of people ever

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Speaker 2: asked me that, but so for me it was different.

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Speaker 2: So you know, when you came out, you know, you

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Speaker 2: get ranked as the top, you know, eighth grade in

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Speaker 5: It used to be spring in summer league.

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Speaker 2: And so I played in the spring league with King.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to go to King. King had the jackets,

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Speaker 2: they had the nikes, the dunks.

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Speaker 3: May them jackets, used to them letterman jackets.

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Speaker 2: King.

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Speaker 3: Straight up, all I.

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Speaker 5: Cared about was gett one of them jackets. So it

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, I don't know if you you

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Speaker 2: I played with King in the spring league. So it

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Speaker 2: I was at three Thomas Hamilton, a Rashid Griffin was

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Speaker 2: But you know what, honestly, d I wanted to go

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Speaker 2: I played baseball up until I was freshman in high school.

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Speaker 2: So Simeon was on the list too. Sime I had

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Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't get So I took my extra

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Speaker 5: He picked me up the school every day.

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Speaker 2: I'm never on fifty fifth every day I had to

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Speaker 2: So it's crazy. It's it's not like a big story

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Speaker 5: Man. She made me go to Catholic school.

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Speaker 2: But you know I went the visitation too, which was,

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Speaker 4: Almost like you know, I spent that one year brother Rice,

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Speaker 3: I got I got up out of it. I got

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I mean, but it was good though.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I thank my mom to this day

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Speaker 1: Last year I had the opportunity to uh just go

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Speaker 1: and pay my respects to mister mc irvin last year

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Speaker 3: And just mac Irvin was just always.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's the second family. You hit all those things

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Speaker 2: Obviously through Mike, Me and Mike became friends with young kids,

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean, mister Irvin, that was on

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Speaker 3: I'm on the whole fifteenth day down the street.

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Speaker 2: So I started spending a lot of time at Irvan's house,

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Speaker 5: Kids being kids, video games, kicking it.

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Speaker 2: And then obviously through high school, me and Mike built

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Speaker 2: But it was actually how he really really say, how

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Speaker 5: I was always ranked, you know, top one hundred.

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Speaker 2: But my junior year, the AAU program system change where

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Speaker 2: it's ABCD camp. Not even AU Basketball's ABCD camp. So

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Speaker 2: mister Irvin picked the ten kids to go. So he

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Speaker 3: Oh j McDuffie, Oh yeah, I remember the juice man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So OJ gets hurt the first day of camp,

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Speaker 5: And at that time it was Felipe.

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Speaker 5: So I didn't jump the defense on everybody.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like ah point four and I'm like out

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Speaker 2: I just gotta started getting recruited by everybody in the country.

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Speaker 1: So that that was going into that's the summer going

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Speaker 1: into your senior year.

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Speaker 2: So my senior year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm every team in the country started recruiting.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: I left that summer. Man, it was amazing.

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Speaker 2: I had ten home visits, I did five official visits, and.

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Speaker 1: You gotta take all your visits. You gotta take all

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Speaker 1: your official visits. You gotta go and see what they're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Do with you.

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Speaker 2: Official visits. You know, I gotta see what. I gotta

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Speaker 2: see what the guys on the team gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm in college. Everything is good, So it's time

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, cool, So I just one day,

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Speaker 2: They came on campus with range ros. I'm like, what

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Speaker 7: About coming out, and he was like, hold up, hold up,

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Speaker 5: So mister Irving called Sonny for Carol.

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Speaker 2: Sonny did his due diligence, called me back in forty

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Speaker 2: eight hours like, man, you a lottery pick, and I

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Speaker 2: I said, man, you think I should come out? Can

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Speaker 2: you help me talk to my mom? And he helped

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Speaker 2: And then after that it has been It's been history.

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Speaker 2: And y'all know that you guys have been a part

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Speaker 2: that I was I always remember. I'm glad they finally

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Speaker 1: We you know, we you know, we part of the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and for me, you remember, once upon a time

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Speaker 4: I definitely am one of those kids that know what

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Speaker 2: Now, man, how you get past them?

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Speaker 4: Larry Butler Butler LB L I'm telling you LB came

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Speaker 4: but he was he.

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Speaker 3: He held it down big.

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Speaker 4: We got about we got about thirty pros from the program.

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Speaker 4: So the Warriors. The Warriors was real heavy and strong LB.

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Speaker 4: If it won't for LB, me or Black wouldn't be here,

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Speaker 4: point blank period.

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Speaker 2: LB. My man. I love LB. I never played for him.

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Speaker 2: It's the same way as vice versa.

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Speaker 5: I never played on but I always had enough respect.

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Speaker 2: I know. He's one of the basketball gurus of Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Too low key. He just kind of left the game early.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I don't know, y'all got better.

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Speaker 5: I think he couldn't have do all the fight back

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Speaker 2: I got tired.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that get tiring.

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Speaker 2: That takes That takes us, That take us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes a man of a mindset to deal

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Speaker 1: Take a lot, and that can stress somebody out. That's

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Speaker 1: why I so much respect for mister Irvin. Not just

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Speaker 1: mister Irving. He brought his family into that. You know

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Speaker 3: This whole family was part of his program. It's it

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Speaker 4: In college now, Yeah, look at that, you know, Lance,

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Speaker 4: It's in the blood, it's in the stream.

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Speaker 1: Could have been anybody else then Kentucky, Like did you

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Speaker 1: But who Who's the other team that probably could have

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: But yea, I remember my class I came. I came

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Speaker 2: I'm right behind him. The baggy shorts, the black shoes,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was kind of the same guys going

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Speaker 2: was coming off the Kenney Battles Kendo Kill and you

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Speaker 2: I always laughing. I can't wait till I see him.

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Speaker 2: So Jay Wright, Man, I went to I went to Vegas.

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Speaker 2: They picked me up in there. I'm on campus driving

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Speaker 2: Michigan was the one because what they had already started.

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Speaker 2: Man and Juwan State twoar's junior year too. You got

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Speaker 2: I really thought about, you know what I'm saying, going

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Speaker 2: Mass Burn was my favorite player, one of my favorite plays.

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Speaker 6: In the league.

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Speaker 2: He was six, say six nine like us, can handle

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Speaker 3: I say, definitely could shoot that thing.

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Speaker 2: And and and the crazy part about it, and you

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Speaker 2: I went there and Coach P gave me the man number.

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Speaker 2: I really got excited, you number twenty four. So it

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They playing fast. So I

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Speaker 2: you know, Coach P was overwhelming with the conversation. You know,

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Speaker 2: he gonna ever always entice you to do that. And

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Speaker 5: They had the Wildcat. You want your visit too when.

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Speaker 4: You went you know, oh yeah, you know, no, Big

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Speaker 4: Naves was there when I went on my what Evans

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Speaker 2: So you know what I mean. That was the only

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Speaker 3: The hocilities period was crazy.

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Speaker 4: They was crazy, like you going there, Like I remember

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Speaker 3: Just with data rade.

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, what they got big world like

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Speaker 4: this like league stuff.

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Speaker 2: Boy, hey look man, that was that was incredible. You

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Speaker 2: be like, man, something. They got them a hotel. Now

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Speaker 2: that's how sex they is down and now. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: That was the reason why I pick Kentucky Man over

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Speaker 2: you know, Michigan was the one school I wanted to

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Speaker 2: of fit me and what I wanted to do basketball wise,

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Speaker 2: I can come in, he told me.

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Speaker 5: And then another thing, coach fl like mash Park going pro.

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Speaker 2: He's coming out, so you're gonna have an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: I got this is the perfect spot. And that's how

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Speaker 2: I know Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: Tell me this.

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Speaker 4: Though I know you, I can remember I was about

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Speaker 4: a freshman before you left. But I can remember you

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Speaker 4: back then. You was you had confidence and you was cocky.

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Speaker 4: How long before, like when you got there as a freshman,

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Speaker 4: how long did it take before you knew like, okay,

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Speaker 4: this ain't all right.

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Speaker 3: I'm about to be cool out here.

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Speaker 2: Two parts. The first part was I would say SEC

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Speaker 2: beginning of the season, I thought it was gonna be sweet.

437
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 2: Y'all know the two exhibition games you play, I had, Yeah,

438
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 2: I had twenty both games. I'm like this college I'm done.

439
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm like this, man, we played open at night. I

440
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 2: played about eight minutes. I say what, man, Coach played

441
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 2: me eight minutes. I couldn't believe it. So my first

442
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 2: half of the season I was only playing eight to

443
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 2: twelve minutes at night, so I was I was already

444
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: pissed about that, so I'll never forget. I went at

445
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: Christmas time, we get a break. I went in the

446
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: office and talked to coach. I said, man, this ain't

447
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 2: what I expected. He told me, go home, think about

448
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 2: what you're thinking about. He was like, but if you

449
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: need to leave, you can go ahead and leave. It

450
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 2: wasn't no resistance. I was hurt, Like my whole lot.

451
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 4: You thought you're gonna be trying to coddle you and

452
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 4: convince you or something.

453
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 2: He nothing. So I'm like, you know what, let's say

454
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: you got to sit out the next year. I'm like, no,

455
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 2: I can't sit out. So I went back. The season

456
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: went along, and then he eventually gave me my opportunity. Man,

457
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: we went into the tournament and I played and then

458
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: get MVP. So that was the first time I got

459
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 2: my confidence. But what took me over the top. You

460
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: know how the team going to tours. You know, you

461
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: go to Europe to it. So that summer going in

462
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 2: to my sophomore year was our European tour. So we

463
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: went overseas and man, I was about twenty five a

464
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 2: night over there. We played about eight games and man,

465
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 2: my confidence was my swag was like, man this, I'm ready.

466
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 6: Wait to get back to the States.

467
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready. Like I'm like, we number one, We

468
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 2: number one in the country. We rite number one in

469
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 2: the country.

470
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 3: My swag crew, y'all had a crew.

471
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 2: We played Maryland. We played Maryland opening night. We beat Maryland.

472
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: We used to you man's the second game of the season. Now,

473
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you a funny story. So when I

474
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: came in Coas Betina told me I don't start freshmen.

475
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 5: That was a rule.

476
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: He said, I don't start freshman. So open the night

477
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 2: my sophomore year, run mercer and started lining up. I

478
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 2: know I'm from the crib, now, y'all know, I mean,

479
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 2: you know, I ain't gonna hate it, but I had

480
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: to hate after I had to hate. I ain't gonna lie.

481
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: I w wasn't ally was like, Coch, you told me

482
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: don't know freshman, start man.

483
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 5: The man took run Mercer out to start lining up.

484
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: Man, I felt bad, but I had to hate. I

485
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: had to hate. Man. I was like, I have never

486
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: known this broy no freshman star. So I was like, look, man,

487
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 2: I got the coach. You said, no fresh So he

488
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: took Mercy out to start in lineup. And then after

489
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: that he told me, he said, look, I know you

490
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: can score. I know you can do all these things.

491
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: He said, I need you to sacrifice. He said, we're

492
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: gonna win us a championship, and you're gonna reach all

493
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: your goals. And I just kind of bought in. As

494
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 2: the season went along, I bought in. And man, we

495
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: was unbelieved. We was study. I think we finished thirty

496
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: six and two. We was winning by twenty five points

497
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 2: a game. Our stats looked crazy because we didn't play

498
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 2: the last ten minutes a game. And our practices was

499
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: harder than the games. I'm not gonna front like. Our

500
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: practice used to be so hard, way more than the games.

501
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: Dealing with coach p every day in practice was harder

502
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: than dealing the game. We used to blow people out. Man,

503
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: it's last seven eight minutes. Man, we sitting on the

504
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: bitch cracking jokes. That's how I mean. We was that good, man.

505
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: We was talented topped the bottom. We had ten pros

506
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: on that team that ended up making it to the NBA.

507
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: And then the other guys were them other guys either

508
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: McDonald's all Americans and or played overseas, you know what

509
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So they all played professional basketball, all of us.

510
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 2: So we were just that good. But man, that's crazy,

511
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 2: Like you asked me that, man, I was like, man,

512
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: but it took those two times that summer and going

513
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: overseas and playing kind of built my confidence and took

514
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: my swag and you didn't you know what to d

515
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: and Q. I was in the best shape of my life.

516
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: If you guys know how Patino system was. I came

517
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: to school one ninety. I left that two thirty two,

518
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: Like I put forty pounds on, Like it was different.

519
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: Like I was in the best I could do. I

520
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: felt like I could do anything. Once I got that

521
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: I could run all day. We pressed all day. Like

522
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: once I got that first year under my belt and

523
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: learned Coach Pte, learned the things I could get away

524
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 2: with what I can't get away with, you know that,

525
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: learning how to kick it still get up, get my

526
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: school worked one. You know how we got to figure

527
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: out everything to get our money together. So once I

528
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: figured that out, man, it was hard for me to leave.

529
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 5: Man, that was the hard decision.

530
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: I've had all my life.

531
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 6: Wasn't it to win it all?

532
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: Like to you know, you know them coaches coming there

533
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: and they be like, man, I think we're gonna have

534
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: a good chance to compete for the title and all

535
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: that stuff.

536
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 6: But you actually went to college and got you one.

537
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 6: Like how how was that to win it?

538
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 2: Let me tell you so, because it was special with

539
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: me because when we came out of school, which is

540
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: a little different. Kevin Garnett kind of paid the way

541
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: for you guys did y'all came out of high school.

542
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: But for me it was about going to school, going

543
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: to college, playing the NCAA tournament. That's kind of like

544
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: what we're look forward to. So like I was excited

545
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: about like going to college like we used to Me

546
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: and Donovan used to argue and be like, who's gonna

547
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: go to the better school? Like this used to be

548
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: the conversations at camp and all that. So when I

549
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: got to school, I was like, man, now we got

550
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: a chance to play in a tournament. Get a feel

551
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: for that. My first year, I went to the final eight.

552
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: I lost to Rashid Wallace Jerry Stackhouse, so I lost

553
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: to a crew. So I was like, man, I couldn't wait.

554
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: So one of it was unbelievable. Man, it was like

555
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: the best thing you ever came. That's why it made

556
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: it so hard because we was preseason favorite to do

557
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: it again. We had everybody, all of you besides Tony

558
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: and Walk the whole court was coming back. And guess what,

559
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: they went to the national championship game without me. So

560
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: imagine if I still left, they lost in the championship.

561
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: I mean the didn't win it the next year in

562
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: ninety eight. So I mean, it's one of the best

563
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: feels in the world.

564
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 6: Man.

565
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: When that, it's something if you don't and I'm sure

566
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 2: you wish you would have went to college. D you

567
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: know how this is.

568
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure I Lebron always talk about what

569
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 5: she would.

570
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 6: Have Mister Spence.

571
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: When you hear when you hear the Fellas talk about

572
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: the experience that they have in college and all that stuff,

573
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: he like.

574
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: Man, you only miss it doing march madness. Man, you

575
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: ain't got nobody is you miss it doing March Madness.

576
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: That's the only time you miss it. Like, you know,

577
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: you got to make those decisions, the life decisions. But

578
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: that's that was, that was. That was one of the

579
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: special moments in my life.

580
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: Straight up, you said you, uh, you wasn't gonna come out,

581
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: and you decided to come out. But you decided to

582
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: come out in the greatest draft ever.

583
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: I argue that all the time, but go ahead, no.

584
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 1: No, you don't gotta argue because what we're telling you,

585
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: oh enough, but this is the greatest draft ever. Just

586
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: the guys that was on that draft, Like I remember

587
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: that draft, remember being that just getting to high school

588
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: and just seeing just the star power and just then

589
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: you just look back on it and just see the

590
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: careers that all them guys had, Like how was it? Well,

591
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to skip college, but how was it? Like,

592
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, being in that draft and being around that

593
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: and that iconic slam photo of y'all altogether, Like that's

594
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: one of my favorite slam photos of like y'all, y'all

595
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: standing together that draft.

596
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: Man, I just take the history to it, just just

597
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 2: one when I put my name in the draft, it

598
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: was just how many goods small forwards. It's funny. We

599
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: had to work out in Minnesota and it was like

600
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: they brought me Sharif John Wall, Ultim McCarty. All the

601
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: wings in together like and through the ball in the

602
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: middle was like, y'all play one on one like. It

603
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: wasn't no workout, it was one on one like. I

604
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: was like, man, this draft, this draft was so heavy

605
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 2: like so many times, the guys that do so many things,

606
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: like you remember Dante Jones, he was tough. He was

607
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: in the Mississippi state, and that's what made it. That's

608
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: what made it special, man, Like made that draft special.

609
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: I remember going through my draft process. I worked out

610
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: from two to et letter and that process was so hard. Man.

611
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: I never went to work out like that day in

612
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: my life. How hard we had to work out. Well,

613
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: what was great about it is they brought guys up

614
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: like they brought guys together like you conduct your workout. Yeah,

615
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: like you know this ain't like these the new age

616
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: guys that work out by theirselfs and they just do jews.

617
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: Now you got to get in there, get cranky, like you

618
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: had to go one on one. You had to play

619
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: against guys they want to see your toughness, and that's

620
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: the one thing I remember. And then that draft that

621
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: we got to know each other for the first for

622
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: one week. You know, you get out there early. Yeah,

623
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: you get all your photos and and everything. But I

624
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 2: had just a lot of respect man Like for Ai

625
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Camby played Camby twice, so you know, I knew how

626
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: good Camby was before I do Rahiem and Marlberry and

627
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: I've been in camp with Marlburry a lot of times

628
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: Ray Allen, so I've been around those guys a lot,

629
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: just through AU basketball and camp. So it was a

630
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: special moment. And to be able to get picked six

631
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: through that, through all those guys. Think about it, Steve

632
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: Nash and Kobe Bryant, two m vps, two Hall of famers,

633
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: you know, think where they got drafted. That that's how

634
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: deep that draft was. I was like, man, I was

635
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: just happy to say I'm in a class where three

636
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: four Hall of famers gonna be in there, maybe five

637
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: couple MVPs. I mean, it just speaks values how great

638
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: that class was. I thought I was always being biased.

639
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: I would always argue, you know, I argue with guys

640
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: all the time that I always think people think I'm

641
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: being biased, but I think the nicest class from top

642
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: to bottom, even if you dig into that second round,

643
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: it's guys that have productive NBA careers.

644
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 5: In that ninety six draft.

645
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: Did you think you was gonna get drafted by Boston?

646
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Did you think it was gonna be somebody else? You

647
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: thought you was going somewhere else.

648
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: You know, if Boston had the ninth pick, So the

649
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: day of the draft, they moved up to six to

650
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: get me. And actually I didn't think I was going

651
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: to Boston, and because that was the easiest workout I

652
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: had out of all of them, so I thought they

653
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: didn't like me. But the crazy part about my workout

654
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: read all back Dennis Johnson, Casey Jones, Larry Bird, Tommy Heysen,

655
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: Bob Cousy, Jojo White. These are the guys that's in

656
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: my workout. They just there, you know what I mean.

657
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: At that time, mccarr was the head coach and GM

658
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: of the team. So mL car was the head coach

659
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: at GM. Then you had Casey Jones was the head assistant.

660
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: Then you had Dennis Johnson who was was a second assistant.

661
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 2: So you got to think of all these personalized all

662
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: these big names, Hall of famers working me out, and

663
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: I actually worked out for thirty forty minutes and then

664
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: they brought me in the room and just kind of

665
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: asked me a bunch of questions about the game of basketball,

666
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: about myself. So I didn't think that they that that

667
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: was gonna even be an option for me, you know

668
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: what I mean, just because I didn't work out on

669
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: Every other workout.

670
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 5: Was two hours, two and a half hours.

671
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: So I didn't think none of it. And at day

672
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: of the draft, they traded Eric Montross to Dallas and

673
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: moved up to six, and my age a t happening

674
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: was like, man, you go on to Boston And I

675
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. I was like really, I was like, yeah,

676
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: you going to Boston. So happened. I wore a green

677
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: suit that day. I had like I had a green

678
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: and everything just kind of matched up. And the great

679
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: thing about me going to Boston was that I came

680
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: in to start and I started all eighty two games,

681
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: and I came in and got an opportunity to play

682
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: big minutes. So that was big for a rookie, you

683
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It was a few of us

684
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: those type of mens me AI ray Allen farm Malberry.

685
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: Only the top five or six of us was playing

686
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: those type of minutes early on in the season.

687
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: Tell me how it is? Well, how was it?

688
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: Because I mean, just like you, we we as kids,

689
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: we sit at home and watch every NBA draft and

690
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: dream to get drafted and stuff like that. How how

691
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: was that experience for you being able to be invited

692
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 4: to the green room and you got a chance to

693
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: walk across that stage and shake mister you know, God

694
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: bless his soul, mister David Stern. You got to shake

695
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 4: his hand and have that moment that everybody is you

696
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: know when you growing up.

697
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: That's that's that's.

698
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: Like a symbol, like that's one of the symbols that

699
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 4: of success or you made it?

700
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: Like, how was that moment for you?

701
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Man? The best moment in the world. I still remember

702
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: them in them days to right now today like it

703
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: was yesterday. I remember the phone call, the letter saying,

704
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 2: come you invite to the draft. You can only bring people,

705
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting trying to pick out the ten people,

706
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, you know hey, and

707
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: then it's so bad. I'm I'm dating a girl in college.

708
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, should I bring her, do I need

709
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: to bring her to there? I'm like, I'm going through

710
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: the whole process.

711
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: Like, man, yeah, for real, you know, just that.

712
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: Whole process of who you're gonna bring to the draft

713
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: was the first part, and then the whole week leading

714
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: up to it, you know, just being there in New

715
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: York with the other guys I'm doing. You know, at

716
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: this time, you're doing like flair tops, all the cars signing,

717
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: You're going to all the stores, You're doing all these

718
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: things during the week, and you're hanging out with the guys.

719
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: And I'm nineteen. I can't really kick it. I can't

720
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: go to no club. I ain't drink back then, so

721
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm I couldn't go to the club or nothing. I'm like, man,

722
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: this was it was a surreal moment to be able

723
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: to take my family.

724
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 5: Out there, and it's something you know, I dreamed about,

725
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 5: I mean with my uncle.

726
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really close with my uncle Mike, you know,

727
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: the irvos, I mean, we just this is what we

728
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: talked about. So but you know, you feel official once

729
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: you get that letter, Dan you invited, Once you get

730
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: that letter and your agent call you and like, look,

731
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: we're going to New York. Now you're like, Okay, this

732
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: is real. Yeah, this is real. Now I've been to

733
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: two drafts. I went to my draft, and I said

734
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: the nazis draft with him, so I know. And and

735
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: that was one of the special moment too, where he

736
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: asked me to be one of his ten to sit

737
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: in his draft.

738
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 5: So it's like, I know how that moment feels.

739
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: What was your thoughts to hear that your college coach

740
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: is finna be your your NBA coach, your sad year

741
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: in the league.

742
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: You know, indeed, I ain't gonna lie. I was. I

743
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: was excited, man, you know why because I knew what

744
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: to expect. I knew it was gonna be my show.

745
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah you already coming off all rookie team. Anyway, it

746
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: wouldn't do nothing but get better, you know.

747
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 5: So I'm like, man, this is beautiful.

748
00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 6: Now.

749
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: Any thing that blowed me is that he was when

750
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: he called me. He was like, man, we want to

751
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: I want to press. I'm like, I'm one year in now,

752
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: I like, coach, you can't pressing no NBA, but he

753
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: wanted the press. But I was excited, man, and it

754
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: worked out great. That was one of my best years.

755
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: I made my All Star team my second year in

756
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 2: the league.

757
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 5: Up on them. The offense was ran through me, everything

758
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: was read through me. It was beautiful.

759
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: And then to follow it up even better, he the

760
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: GM and the hand coach, and next year he give

761
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: me my max contract.

762
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 5: No, hey, I had to I had to do. No negotiating, no.

763
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 6: Debate me, no worry about you gonna take care of.

764
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: Me because you know, like in the crazy we told

765
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: when he was talking earlier. But the thing was, coach,

766
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: people's a big part of helping me pick my people.

767
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: And this is where all of us connect. That too,

768
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: that people don't know about that all three of us

769
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: connect that we all with the same firm, the agent,

770
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: same agent, finn See.

771
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 5: People don't know that that we all with the same firm.

772
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: So when I came out, Coach was like, look, I

773
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: believe you got an opportunity to be a big time players,

774
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 2: so we need big time agents. So he bought three

775
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 2: of them. Man, I know obviously David Fault. At that time,

776
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: they were called Fame. You know, I ended up going

777
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: with Mike against you guys. With Jeff Right.

778
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: I saw Jeff and your draft picture, he got like

779
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: he's sitting at the behind to one of the press

780
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: days said, I always mess with him about that, that

781
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: he's sitting there at the thing.

782
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you gotta think. So Jeff was there. So

783
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: Coach was like help. He helped me pick them, he

784
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: helped me do all the process. I stayed at Kentucky.

785
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: You know, all these guys leave and go work out

786
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: in LA and all this. I stayed in Kentucky all

787
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 2: the way until two weeks before the draft. I never left.

788
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: So he was there every day in my workouts, pushing me,

789
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: doing individual instruction. So it was easy, man. So when he.

790
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 5: Came, I thought it was gonna be the best thing

791
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 5: in the world.

792
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: Man. But I'm gonna be honest. I love Coach Pete.

793
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: We're good friends now to this day. He's been great

794
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: for me all my life. But Coach p could not

795
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: take losing man.

796
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 5: Man.

797
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 2: We traded Thomason Billis after forty games. Man. I played

798
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: Thomson Villas out to forty game and we drafted him

799
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: third the draft.

800
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 5: So he just was impatient, you know what I mean.

801
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 5: He couldn't take you when you.

802
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: Go from winning eighty percent of your games and you

803
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: get to the league and you got to rebuild.

804
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 5: He ain't had a patience for it. It just he

805
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 5: couldn't take it.

806
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: And he was the GM two. Now I played in

807
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: two years. He was there two and a half years.

808
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: I probably played with fifty dudes. Man, But you gotta

809
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: imagine that, y'all know how this goes.

810
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: That's crazy, man.

811
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: Man traded everybody here signed, somebody trade signed, somebody trade.

812
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: So it was just hard on but he I love

813
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: the fact that he got that and it pound out fun.

814
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: He took care of me in Divisitor. I can't be mad.

815
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: Now you start to really get some helps. They draft

816
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: Paul Prairice, You know what I'm saying. Y'all start getting

817
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: the identity, y'all start making the playoffs, Like how was

818
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: it when when you got Paul Prairis and you you

819
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: see that, Oh shit, I got a boy with me,

820
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: like we fin to do some shit, Like how was that?

821
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: And like I used to love y'all team because y'all

822
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: had people like Walter and Eric Williams, and we love

823
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: Walter like y'all y'all used to have the best compliment players.

824
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: And when I understood why y'all was making the playoffs

825
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: and y'all was winning games then. So but when y'all

826
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: got Paul and all that stuff, like now y'all attendom nothing.

827
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Now you it ain't all about you, and you don't

828
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: got to do everything. You got somebody that you can

829
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: depend on. And then I used to hear that you

830
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: used to always just encourage and encourage the ship out

831
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: of Paul Pierce to be better.

832
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's the crazy part about that? I

833
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: was so excited. But y'all know Paul failed in the draft,

834
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: like Paul was supposed to be like a free pick,

835
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: and he felled a team like he fell in our lap.

836
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: So when Paul came in, Paul had a little you know,

837
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: Paul had a little grudge on the show.

838
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 5: He was he was buy none.

839
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, y'all know I'm from Chicago,

840
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, this is the type of dude

841
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: I need. He cocky, he don't care, He like man,

842
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: he like listen, man, I have felt in the dress.

843
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm here to prove everybody wrong. He told he had

844
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: a swagged about himself. He was rady.

845
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 5: He was ready to do damage it once.

846
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: I saw that in him, and still didn't because My

847
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: thing was, like, man, we just wanted to get to

848
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: be in a playoff team, you know how you had

849
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: all the people talk about championship.

850
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: We got to get back to just being a playoff team.

851
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: And once Paul got in there started establishing himself a

852
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: rookie year and it was messed up because it was

853
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 2: a lockout year.

854
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 5: Too, so you really didn't get a chance to see

855
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 5: the four climpse.

856
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: But once that two thousand man started to hit it,

857
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 2: I started to see it. Bro, he back down for nobody.

858
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: That pull up game was fish from seventeen feet. He

859
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: can get to the basket when you want to. He

860
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: didn't man guarding the best players on the other team.

861
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: He took pride and guarding the best players. But then

862
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: his work at it was was impeccable. And then I

863
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: started offensively. You know, you started to look at a

864
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: certain guy's game. I'm like, man, Paul, get to the

865
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: freak through line, like you know what I'm saying.

866
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 5: He started.

867
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm like, man, so I started deferring to him, like, Bro,

868
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: you can get to the line. That's fourth quarter, you

869
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: know how it is back in that day, you get

870
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: to the line, they ain't giving me that call. You

871
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying that he Paul had like a

872
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: People think he was out of shape, But Paul just

873
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: had like one of those weird bodies. He didn't have

874
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: no definition, so people thought he was like that. He

875
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: just but Paul was like in great shape. We can

876
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: get to the live fourth quart of time. But man,

877
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: he la to la to him. I'll be you know

878
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: right now. You know, you see all the stuff on

879
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: TV and all that, and he compaying himself. But I

880
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: see it like people, if you don't know him, and

881
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: you ain't winning that ground with him. Every day he

882
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: believed he was the best player in the world. You

883
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: couldn't tell him that he wasn't the best. And that's

884
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: the way he played itself. And that's how he was

885
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: able to have a lot of success. And you know

886
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: what else was good. We could curse each other out.

887
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: And you guys are best friends now and I'm pretty

888
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: sure y'all have had some wars. But we can curse

889
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: each other out, man, and the next day we type.

890
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: We never had a grudges. I mean off the court,

891
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: we were great. We did so many things. We partied,

892
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: we kicked it in each other house, We had a

893
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: great time off the court, but on the court, he

894
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: allowed me to go at him. You know, he allowed

895
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: me to you know, if I felt like he wasn't

896
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: playing at a level that I thought he could play at,

897
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: I could curse him out.

898
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: And he didn't hold a grudge.

899
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: And we didn't take it and not talk to each

900
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: other for three, four or five days. Now we was

901
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: right back tight right after the game. That's what made

902
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: our relationship special. We always have that much respect for

903
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: each other when it came to basketball.

904
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're the same way. Man.

905
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: I cursed his ass out after every episode and then

906
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: we'd be back to five minutes later. You know, it's

907
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: no let me ask you. Yeah, you know that. You

908
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 4: know that you've seen it. Let me ask you this though, bro,

909
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 4: Like cause when you became like now you cybertwine right

910
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, Like you got you

911
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: on you on the cover of NBA Live, Like as

912
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: it's happening, Like, how was that like from your perspective

913
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: and your lens, how was this when all of this

914
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: is happening, Like you got the Max deal, You're getting

915
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 4: on Live? You know what I'm saying? You employee number

916
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: eight for Adidas. You know what I'm saying, you people

917
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: sleep on that. You really was the first big boy

918
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: Adidas dude even before because you hit before Kobe and

919
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 4: them hit. You know what I'm saying, Like you first

920
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: second year All Star, like you already hitting while they

921
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 4: were still finding they way.

922
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 3: You already got it. So how was that for you?

923
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: It was? It was surreal moment for me because Adidas

924
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: when I came in, they kind of took the new

925
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: kids on a block type of thing.

926
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 5: So it was like, You're gonna be the new kid

927
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 5: on the block. They kind of created this whole image

928
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 5: behind me.

929
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 2: And once they did that, that beginning a little slack,

930
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna tell you my rookie year by after

931
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: all starts to break my rookie year once they kind

932
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: of like, look, we're gonna.

933
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 5: Turn you lose play forty minutes at night. You good

934
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 5: to go. That's what my confidence grew.

935
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: Man.

936
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: I just knew I could play in the league. I

937
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: knew I could compete against these guys. People didn't know.

938
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: But I was on AI ass for the Rookie of

939
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: the Year, like we was bounding. We just neither one

940
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: of us won. So it was about just really us

941
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: getting numbers every night. So once I started getting their

942
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: confidence and playing at that high level. But I'm gonna

943
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: tell you this funny story. When I made the All

944
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: Star Game in ninety eight, that's what it really like.

945
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: It changed when I was in that locker room. And

946
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: I don't think people understand you. Guys will understand me more.

947
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 5: You know.

948
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: It was Michael Jordan, Reggie Miller, Penny Hardaway, Tim Hardaware,

949
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: Belen Rice, Larry Birr was my coach. I was in

950
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: New York City, like, I was like, man, I'm here.

951
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: And then the following year, it's funny you say that,

952
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: I get the cover NBA Live, and it's crazy. I

953
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: remember my agent calling me and was like, look, we're

954
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna put you on the cover of this

955
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: video game. And people back then it wasn't a lot

956
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: of money. It was like fifty thousand dollars. I gotta

957
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: paid like fifty thousand. But he was like, you're gonna

958
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: be on millions of millions of copies. You're gonna be

959
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: in everybody. And I ain't get it, you know what

960
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You know, I'm twenty one years and I'm like, man,

961
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: fifty thousand, ain't nothing, you know what I mean at

962
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: that time, like that ain't not, ain't nothing. So he like, no,

963
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: listen to me, this is gonna change your life. So

964
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: I ended up doing the cover. I ended up putting

965
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: a little fan dad suit, lying to Vancouver, did all

966
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: the moves for the game.

967
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: That did the whole thing. And that was it. Man,

968
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 5: I started.

969
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: I started to really feel myself in a situation like now, see.

970
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 5: When you meet that All Star game.

971
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: Even though I felt like Christian Laker did on the

972
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: Olympic team at I felt like him. But once I

973
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: left the Allstar Game, you feel like you can go

974
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: back to your other guys, like, man, I'm that dude,

975
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: and I played with that confidence after that it was easy.

976
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: Even when Paul came, I embraced him on the team,

977
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: and I he knew he knew who team it was

978
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: when he got there, you know what I'm saying. But

979
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: I also knew how tality was. I knew I need

980
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: to shed a light with him.

981
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 6: When we first got to the league.

982
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: You know, we're still in the era where you got

983
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: to have a seven foot of center and then you

984
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: got to have a sixteen, big strong, motherfucker power forward,

985
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: call my long arms.

986
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 6: But when I used to see like you was the

987
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 6: only person.

988
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: You and Anthony Mason was the only two big ones

989
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: that were driveling the rock. Like when you got to

990
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: that and I know you, you know you get to

991
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: we got to leave. Kg's the duncan. I used to

992
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: watch you play and your advantage. Then You've always feel

993
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: like you always had an advtage because you can move

994
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: and you can dribble, and you won't like the typical

995
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: power forward.

996
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I gotta I gotta get Coach

997
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: Pete credit. I told you guys earlier when I came

998
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: in the league, I was supposed to be a three man,

999
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: and they played me strictly at the three and you

1000
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: know that day at the three spot, man, you gotta

1001
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 2: be quick.

1002
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 5: You know, we we tall, so all.

1003
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: That hrckey jerky stuff sometimes ain't gonna go on nobody,

1004
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 2: you know, six six. So Coach Pete came in, was like, man,

1005
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: move me to the power forward position. And I was like, man,

1006
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: and the first at first, you know, obviously I don't

1007
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: want to bumping ground.

1008
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 5: Our power forward is different. Now I see this is

1009
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 5: the thing.

1010
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 3: See.

1011
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: When I came in, it was Charles Oakley at the four,

1012
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: Anthony Mason, Grant, Dennis Rodman, Dale, Davis Antonio, Davis, Karl

1013
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: Malone like these the power forwards. So I really don't

1014
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: want this action anyway. I don't want at the garden.

1015
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: So the coach was like, you're gonna have such an advantage.

1016
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: Just listen to me. And this time Chris Webb at

1017
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: the four to one high. I mean, this is the guy.

1018
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: So I'm like, he like, you're gonna have it advt

1019
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: He was like, look on defense, learn how to front.

1020
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: He said, we're gonna go back to college. You're gonna

1021
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: to learn how the front and learn how to use

1022
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: your elbows. I'm like all right. So all of a sudden,

1023
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: I moved to the four and man, listen, I'm at

1024
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: the three one folk pick and roll them big dudes

1025
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: trying to close out on me. Man, the flow just

1026
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: got big. I can shoot the three. I can take

1027
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: him off the dribb and make him play for somebody else.

1028
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: And that's what really took off when he moved me

1029
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: to the four my second year. And a good thing too.

1030
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: And that's another reason that coach p came.

1031
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: He knew my skill set to you know, a lot

1032
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: of culches sometimes don't know your skill set. He knew

1033
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: my skill set, he knew I could pass, he knew

1034
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 2: how good I can handle the basketball, and he really

1035
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: gave me a unique opportunity to do that. And I'm

1036
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: gonna tell you something, even the fast forward, the best career,

1037
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: the best season I ever had, the funnest season I've had.

1038
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: You know, I've had great individual season, man player for

1039
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: the Dallas Matters, man don Nelson. You alist my skill

1040
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: level better than any coach, better than coach Patino. I

1041
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: mean I started a point guard about six games when

1042
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: Steve Nash was out. I mean just you know, four

1043
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: one pick a roll with a point guard, I said,

1044
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: and picks for us, you know what I mean, all

1045
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: these type of different plays and stuff that he had,

1046
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: you know, put together just showcasing my skill set. So

1047
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: I was very fortunate enough that every coach I played

1048
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: for always knew how to utilize me and allow me

1049
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: handling the basketball.

1050
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm glad.

1051
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: I'm glad you just brought that up, because you know,

1052
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 4: especially in today's game, like you mentioned earlier, you d

1053
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: guys like.

1054
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: You we see see a lot of that.

1055
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 4: But the thing that this is like, like d you said, Earth,

1056
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 4: like we we love this is one of the things

1057
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: I love about our show, Coop. Like we said, we

1058
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: just had Tim Thomas on the other day, so it's

1059
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: like y'all, y'all, I too, but like that's what I'm saying,

1060
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 4: Like when you think about what you see these dudes

1061
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: doing that a sixty eleven sixteen dudes trying to handle

1062
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: the ball, trying to shoot threes, like you.

1063
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: Are the epitome of the beginning of that.

1064
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 4: Like you like you know what I'm saying, Like literally,

1065
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 4: you're telling me how you started games at the point

1066
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: I know more than most because I seen it not

1067
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 4: only in the league, but I seen it a song

1068
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: at home at the summer every summer for so many years.

1069
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: So it's like that's what I love about what we do.

1070
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: We get to bring you up here and say that

1071
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: and be like, nah, like think back if you really

1072
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: want think back, Like one of the first dudes, Like

1073
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 4: I can remember one of one of my favorite quotes,

1074
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 4: I call it legendary quotes from Twine.

1075
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: It was like the dude asks.

1076
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 4: You, yo, Antoine, the reporter, why you shoot so many

1077
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 4: three cause it ain't no force like what you mean,

1078
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 4: like with who you're talking to. And then I'm gonna

1079
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: still persist to do what I'm doing. You not phasing me,

1080
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: and I always love that. And I feel like when

1081
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: they be talking, you know, we all watch the same stuff,

1082
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: like we don't. I don't feel like you get your

1083
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 4: proper due for having that impact on these guys. Like

1084
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: when we talk to these guys, KD brought you up.

1085
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like.

1086
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: These dudes, watch these the hoopers know you feel me.

1087
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: So it's like and it's crazy kill to even add

1088
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: to that. When I was playing them, I used to

1089
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: be after the game the media be like, I shot

1090
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: eight threes in the game of nine. They be like, man,

1091
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: why do you shoot so me? I'm like, man, I like,

1092
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: you know, that's part of my game. They like, they

1093
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: used to criticize me big articles off. He don't want

1094
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: to postuff, he don't want to be playing inside, he

1095
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: don't want to do this. And I'm looking at these

1096
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: guys now today I'm like, man, and d I know

1097
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: you feel the same way. Man, I feel like shit,

1098
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: I'll probably make three hundred million in this time.

1099
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: Man, Oh my god.

1100
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 5: I'm definitely getting two million, the two hundred million dollar check.

1101
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right right there.

1102
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: That's yet these guys after twelve points making making a hundred.

1103
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: I'll be looking at these guys like, man, I'm like, man,

1104
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: if I could have played this era, I missed my beat.

1105
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: Man, you hear me, I'm a four man in this area.

1106
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: I'm a four killing it.

1107
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm like, it's my beating making this money. So

1108
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this is crazy. So I know exactly

1109
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. But I'm happy to see the

1110
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: game involved. But we took the centers out the game

1111
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: a little bit now, so I mean it's unfortunately for

1112
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: a lot of the centers. But you know, but besides that,

1113
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: I love to see a game like this. I mean,

1114
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: I love to see Giannis bring that thing up the

1115
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: flow like he is. You know, Draymond, think about this, man,

1116
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: Damond Ring gonna be a Hall of Famer man off

1117
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: that off his skill set package, being able to handle

1118
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: the basketball and make plays for others. And yeah, so

1119
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: just think about that. Those guys that's doing that, that

1120
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 2: could be effective. You even look at dirt, you look

1121
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: at look at Christoph Pazinger's you know what I'm saying.

1122
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: You look at Luka Donnis. It was probably six six

1123
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 2: sixty seven, but you're seeing guys now that's preer point guards.

1124
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 5: Well, Magic was the guy that kind of was the

1125
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 5: only guy did that.

1126
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: But then you came in d I came in Lamar Odham,

1127
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: you know, guys that started to really handle the ball outside.

1128
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 5: So I love it. I love seeing the game.

1129
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: Whereas that right now, I still like the center aspect

1130
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: of the game, but I do the fact that we

1131
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: got fours and threes and six sat sixty nine that

1132
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: can make plays like guards.

1133
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: I was just telling Tim Thomas this. I was like, man,

1134
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: I remember when I came out, it was so much

1135
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: hype around me, and one of the things they used

1136
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: to always say was like, oh, man his six nine

1137
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: can dribble.

1138
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 6: He the first to do this.

1139
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 3: And I used to be like, no, Man, I.

1140
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: Seen Tim Thomaskwan, I seen like Lamar rolled them, like

1141
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: these are the guys. When I seen y'all do it,

1142
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: it was like, man, I can be that I can

1143
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: dribble like that. To even speak on that, Who gave

1144
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: you the confidence to be this? Big dudes and dribble.

1145
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: Man.

1146
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 5: They go back to the old days. They go back

1147
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 5: to Chicago.

1148
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: Man went out Chicago Legends and Isaiah Thomas and Magic

1149
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: Johnson with my two favorite players, y'all going up in Chicago.

1150
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: You know, Isaiah Thomas is the name, you know, especially

1151
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: Catholic School got it always.

1152
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 5: I remember Nummy level used to be my number in

1153
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 5: elementary school.

1154
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: I mean them of the guys I implemented and wanted

1155
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: to be like was Magic Johnson and Isaiah Thomas. And

1156
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: I used to always just dribble all time. Like man,

1157
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 2: I used to dribble to kick the ball in my hand,

1158
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: and I just actually just grew. When I got the

1159
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: eighth grade, I got six' four and then by my

1160
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: end of my senior, Year i'm six.' nine i had huge,

1161
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: gloves FIRST but i always wanted to be that.

1162
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: POINT guard i was, always tall and it was like

1163
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: when you played twenty one, or something, you know as,

1164
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: you hooping it, was like only way you're gonna get

1165
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: the rock is if you out there dribbling.

1166
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 6: With the with the rest.

1167
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: Of THEM so i had to start DRIBBLING if i

1168
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: wanted to get, some action cause, you know as a,

1169
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: big man even though the on the hook courtse outside they'd, be,

1170
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: like man get your big ass under.

1171
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 6: The, gold yeah you Know what.

1172
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm SAYING and i just refused to, do THAT and

1173
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: i wanted to be with the guards, and stuff and,

1174
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: you know it worked out and seeing guys like y'all

1175
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: making it come true for me in, my eyes, LIKE

1176
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: man i, Can, SEE.

1177
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 4: Man i wasn't fortunate. As, Y'ALL man i ONLY got

1178
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: i was short for a. LONG time, i, WENT yeah,

1179
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 4: i was or, in FACT then, I went I thought

1180
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 4: i was on, my, way. THOUGH twine i went freshman the, sophomore, Year,

1181
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: freshman no what was?

1182
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: It you eighth grade to?

1183
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: FRESHMAN year i went five eleven six to two freshman

1184
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 4: and SOPHOMORE year i went six two. Six five, I'm

1185
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 4: like i'm on. My way first sophomore the, Junior year i'm,

1186
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: still like fuck my three, inches said what are?

1187
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: You at? WHERE'S it. I ain't I thought i was

1188
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: about to be six eighth this summer to get.

1189
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 4: It's over never really got maybe got like, it's debatable

1190
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 4: But like i'm six' five, or six six one.

1191
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: Of the two.

1192
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: You don't know, your actual height YOU know?

1193
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: What i mean with, shoes on them absolutely every bit

1194
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 4: of six six. And three quarters that WAS my official

1195
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: nba height. With shoes on.

1196
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 5: You didn't even know how.

1197
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: To our knuckleheads thing, came from celebrations You know. What

1198
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: i'm saying like then many people celebrate in the nineties or.

1199
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: Really celebrate period, and you know you See You see

1200
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: reggie miller and them Do The little michael jackson then

1201
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: through the starting Five You see mark jackson kind of.

1202
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Do his thing but one of the, things was like,

1203
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: like you're shimmy You know what i'm saying after, you

1204
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: out there you, Working them folks you hitting them Folks,

1205
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: With that YEAH like im i did THAT shit when i,

1206
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: Was in school like you.

1207
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 6: Gotta get that, and you know you see how.

1208
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: They, Celebrate THESE days LIKE i tell i was like

1209
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: we one of the first, people to celebrate but we

1210
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: was over celebrate more than.

1211
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 6: Any other people and that shit was kind of a

1212
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 6: lot of people. Taking that.

1213
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: Shit that's disrespectful like these young, dudes out here they

1214
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: dunk and running and shit like we took a lot

1215
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: of bowls and knock your ass down from celebrating back.

1216
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: In that era but now how you see they just

1217
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: throwing up the threes and just doing their thing like

1218
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: man and you one of the. Pioneers of that you

1219
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: was one of The ones that i've seen growing. Up

1220
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: doing that tell us about how you got the shemmy

1221
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: from it.

1222
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: Came from. College it's crazy, so y'all, know in college

1223
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: so all the guys, on the team we used to,

1224
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: always you know you're, a doing room, You're messing around

1225
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: but we all used. To play around we used to

1226
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: do all. TYPES of things i used to always dance.

1227
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: And mess around.

1228
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 5: SO one day i just, Told the guys i'm gonna

1229
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 5: do it.

1230
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: In the game and. Y'all Gonna know couch potino was

1231
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: the real, like you know disciplinarians like him't let. You

1232
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: do nothing so one day one, of the games especially

1233
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: like way one, OF the games i. Dunked on somebody

1234
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: it just. Came OUT natural but i was able to

1235
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: do it and get back. In the press so when,

1236
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: the film session coach was like what, he was like,

1237
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: but he's like you Got back IN and so i

1238
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: used to just. Dance in college if you go back

1239
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: to all my college FOR it wasn't i was more polished,

1240
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: than THE league but i used to. DANCE in college

1241
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: i used to dunk on people and dance and shake

1242
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: in college and it just carried on. To the league

1243
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: and it's crazy you. SAY that dance i was in the,

1244
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: league DOING it and i used To remember the boston media,

1245
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: to be like, why you know? Why you dance why are?

1246
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 5: You doing, that you know like it made it like,

1247
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 5: it WAS disrespectful but.

1248
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: I ain't care.

1249
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 5: It just can't and it got to a point where

1250
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 5: it just.

1251
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: Come out natural and we was on, a BIG run

1252
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: or i didne made a nice, move on somebody it.

1253
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 2: JUST come out i. Couldn't stop it it was just PART.

1254
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: Of my, dna after that it was, only one coach

1255
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: Only one coach, i'll played for And That. Was DON

1256
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: nelson when i, got Traded there don, nessa, was like

1257
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: hey we gonna do that. Shitty one coach, he, was

1258
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: like man, look, YOU know hey i don't want you.

1259
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: Doing that shit and if you really look at me

1260
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: for this From. ME in dallas i never Did. It

1261
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: in dallas that was my ONLY career that i Never,

1262
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: danced in dallas but everywhere else it was only but

1263
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: it just came a PART. Of my dna IT is

1264
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: time i picked up from college just messing around, with

1265
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: THE guys and i just took it, to THE league

1266
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 2: and i THINK and now. I like it i like

1267
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: when you guys, had y'all things y'all. HIT y'all head

1268
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: I even like mellow when he do the three. On

1269
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: this thing you know. He started that everybody else. Is not, Staff,

1270
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: uh uh trey that's. A few guys gotta call me and, get,

1271
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: right right right. Right right right then you put a

1272
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: call into me and. Let me know You know what,

1273
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: I'M saying now i let them do It.

1274
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: To leave boston like after you don put all them

1275
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: years in and like all them them years that you

1276
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: then Got close with paul and you know y'all to

1277
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: building this and so forth on.

1278
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 6: And you still.

1279
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: GOT working you i, couldn't believe, it like Man they

1280
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: let TWINE go like i don't see how they, can

1281
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: replace it and they didn't replace it like they the ones.

1282
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 5: Once you love it was, like, We, Down, MAN listen

1283
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 5: man i cried? Like a baby did?

1284
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 2: YOU tell? IT i was i, couldn't, Believe IT man.

1285
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: Like i was, my seventh year we had finally. Typed

1286
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: the corner we had started being a. Consecutive playoff team

1287
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: we probably was one piece of a way We Ran

1288
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: to new jersey and that THE two years i mean

1289
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: obviously two years back To Back and new jersey went.

1290
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: TO the finals i mean obviously. THEY didn't perform i

1291
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: mean it just Ran. To The lakers jason kidd was.

1292
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: In his, Prime You know kenyan martin was.

1293
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 7: A freak, athletically i, mean you know they Had To

1294
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 7: Carry kettles.

1295
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 2: Key van hornloaded that was the team that we had.

1296
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: To get past we knew that we felt like we

1297
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: was a point guard away. And the team the organization

1298
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: decided To Bring. In danny ainge i'm gonna keep. It

1299
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: one hundred They Brought, it danny inge and, in this

1300
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: game y'all know how this goes. With certain EXECUTIVES he just.

1301
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: I Don't know danny ainge did not like me. FOR

1302
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: whatever reason i couldn't to This day because i'm gonna tell,

1303
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: You a story but, TO this day i don't know

1304
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: why he. Don't like me he did, not like me

1305
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: and he traded me right before, the FIRST game AND

1306
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: i was i WAS sick because i thought we was

1307
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: on our way to do something. Special and crazy part

1308
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: a year and, A half later i get an opportunity.

1309
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: TO come back i was about to say that you ended. Up,

1310
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: COMING back.

1311
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 7: Yeah i come back to even, a better team, a

1312
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 7: better situation.

1313
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: A Better Coach so doc. Rivers the coach they was

1314
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: like one game. Over five Hundred i'm in atlanta putting up.

1315
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: Twenty and ten but we we. Losing like crazy we ain't.

1316
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: Winning no game so, my, agent like look you can Go.

1317
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: BACK to boston i.

1318
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 5: Know you don't really. Mess with names you can go

1319
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 5: back there and maybe make.

1320
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: The playoffs and enjoy the rest, of the season or

1321
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 2: you can just stay here and play the season out

1322
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: and be. A free, agent i'm like, You know what.

1323
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: I'll go, back, I'M like cool. I go back You know.

1324
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: What i'm Saying me and paul. Were still, Close I'm

1325
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: like gary payton was, on the Team He, was jordann.

1326
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah You, know doc rivers You know, what i'm saying was.

1327
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: The Head coach, so, I'M like man. I go back.

1328
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,959
Speaker 2: I go back we went thirteen out of we went twelve.

1329
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: Out of thirteen we. Win the division, Through The process

1330
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: danny ain's come, hollering, me, like look man don't beat

1331
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: me up. In free agency we got something. Good special

1332
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: Here i'm thinking i'm. GONNA be There i think i'm

1333
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: gonna be there for another. Five, or six man get the.

1334
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 2: Free agency man that man they offered.

1335
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 5: Me a dollar.

1336
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: That's. A, true story man this is, this is crazy

1337
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 2: and people that know basketball can. Do their research you

1338
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: Can google the so the man that offered, Me a, dollar.

1339
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: I'M like okay i had to. CALL the, ownership, i,

1340
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: SAID look man i need to sign and trade in

1341
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: order for me to get. A decent contract y'all gonna do?

1342
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: Me like this and the, owners was like, You know

1343
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: what we're gonna Make sure that danny. Don't do this

1344
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: they had, to step in Man And tell danny ange

1345
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: to do a. SIGN and trade i think, to this

1346
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: day you guys. IN google it i was a part

1347
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: of the biggest trade sign and TRADE in. The nba

1348
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 2: history thirteen players to do a. Sign and trade that's

1349
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: how bad the man didn't want to take. No money

1350
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: back when y'all see those thirteen players' names in that,

1351
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: sign and trade.

1352
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 5: Y'all gonna laugh that's, gonna be guys y'all never get

1353
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 5: hurt of for y'all remember they. Playing the game that's how.

1354
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: Bad.

1355
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: It was man but to get back to. The original question.

1356
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: That's how bad THAT'S how Much. I love boston i

1357
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: Could say the boston.

1358
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 5: My.

1359
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: Second home man still to this day they number Love

1360
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: even with, danny being there the people in the front.

1361
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 5: Office haven't changed the ownership group.

1362
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: Is still there they took over TWO years before i

1363
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: they're still there and they treat me like they Treat

1364
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: me like i'm a part. Of the. Family YOU know

1365
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: so i, HAD a number i have no number of Love.

1366
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: For.

1367
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 5: The celtics man that's that's that's my second home in The.

1368
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: City Of boston when i'm out there in public and

1369
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: just going to restaurants and just. Doing, social things man

1370
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: they take good.

1371
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: CARE of Me i know miami heat was, hard on,

1372
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: you but man, to see, you you KNOW somebody that

1373
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: i worked out against every summer and and testing my

1374
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: game against. THE winning championship i was so happy and

1375
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: proud for LIKE you and gp and You know, what

1376
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: i'm saying.

1377
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 6: Like a crew that was.

1378
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: One of the best times in the craziest times. Of

1379
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: my life i'll never pass it up but anything, in

1380
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: the world but the beginning part of it was one just.

1381
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: TO get there i, REMEMBER my Agent I mean pat

1382
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: raley called, me, and, SAID hey look i need You.

1383
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 5: To.

1384
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: Call shack, now mind Y'ALL y'all Know i know, shaq

1385
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: obviously player but he. Ain't my guy, so, He, like

1386
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: all shaq You gotta tell shaq that he got to take.

1387
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 5: A Pay cut, so, I'M like wow i.

1388
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 7: Gotta tell, him, he like, look tell, him you coming

1389
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 7: tell him you're gonna take a pay cut you, come

1390
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 7: to play and he'll, he'll you know he'll probably do

1391
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 7: it because Just how bad shaq want to.

1392
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 5: Win ANOTHER title so.

1393
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: I go There i, called, shaq like, Man big fella

1394
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: i'm trying, to come aboard but you know. You Gotta

1395
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: do so shaq could have signed, a three year ninety.

1396
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: MILLION dollars deal i think it was like three. Years

1397
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: a million instead he, took five years, one hundred million

1398
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: so basically he. Added two, years oh yeah that was.

1399
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 5: That Was love so shack took.

1400
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 3: That get the math real fast right there, in the,

1401
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: mask real, fast go ahead.

1402
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 2: So to fit me. Into the cap so You know.

1403
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: What I'm saying so shaq did what he had to

1404
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: do to fit, me the cap. Which WAS great so

1405
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: i was, excited about THAT and then.

1406
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 7: I get There, not Only shaqa, D wade there, LIONZO morning, there.

1407
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: Gp, there hold on. He, get better, posey don posey

1408
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: your Donna's has Them Jay will delonte wright with a.

1409
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 5: Rookie young guy young guy.

1410
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: Was WAS good but i always tell people that season.

1411
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: WAS so amazing i never partied and played basketball like that. In, MY, Life,

1412
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: me Gp, posey, d man listen Not so much Shake,

1413
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: and d wade But, us, for yeah man we.

1414
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 5: Got, it, THERE hey.

1415
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 6: Oh i remember what?

1416
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: YOU told.

1417
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: Me i said, he, was LIKE, HEY d ma i

1418
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: just need to be a shape. For twenty Minutes that's all.

1419
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: I'M getting up i just need to be a shape.

1420
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: For twenty minutes everything.

1421
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: Else this, Up So Look stave van gandhi was the

1422
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: HEAD coach when, I Got there so stave.

1423
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 5: Break me, in, he's, LIKE look.

1424
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: Man i can't run no place for you, in the

1425
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 2: beginning Y'all got remember i'm coming off, twenty and ten,

1426
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: So you know i'm still. Thinking that, thing and, oh,

1427
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: he's like look we can't run no, place for you

1428
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 2: Running everything for Shock and. D wade everything, i respect

1429
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: that YOU know? What i MEAN how can? I argue,

1430
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: that i mean you know we're gonna Run everything through shock.

1431
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: At the, way, he said look but if you come,

1432
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: Off the bench i'm gonna run. EVERYTHING for, me, i,

1433
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 2: Said OKAY coach so i did it for the. First

1434
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: twenty game. EVERYTHING come at i was about twelve. THIRTEEN

1435
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: something light I ain't but i ain't playing number twenty five. Minutes.

1436
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 5: A night man i ain't never had this much energy. In,

1437
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:16,959
Speaker 5: my life now y'all.

1438
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 6: Know.

1439
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: MY background now i used to leave the league in

1440
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 2: minutes like top five minutes. And Games playing. So i'm

1441
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: good i'm playing twenty five minutes or the best shape. Of,

1442
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: my life man my night life went. To, Another level

1443
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: hey i'm burning both ends.

1444
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 5: Of the.

1445
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: Candle I'm good pat. Raley took over, he, WAS like

1446
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: look i. Play my, money i'm like? What the, HELL

1447
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: he said i. Play my, money he. Said you, start,

1448
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: He's like look i'm. Gonna start you you're gonna play

1449
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: the first. Six seven minutes i'm gonna take. You out

1450
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: early i'm gonna still give you, a second unit but you.

1451
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: Got To start and i'm gonna TELL you.

1452
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 3: Why i.

1453
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: STARTED he said i was the best entry passer on

1454
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: the team to Get, at THE shock and I spaced

1455
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: and i spaced the floor with my.

1456
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 5: Three point, shoot, he LIKE look so i just want

1457
01:03:58,760 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 5: that's THE only reason i.

1458
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: Gonna start you, And he said i'm gonna take, you

1459
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 2: Out early and i'm still gonna give your second.

1460
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 5: UNIT the, look, I.

1461
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: Said okay and that's. How, We rolled man we. Rolled

1462
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: LIKE that but i ain't gonna. Lie, to you man

1463
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: that was the closest team outside my COLLEGE team that

1464
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: i ever BEEN.

1465
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 5: On, The nba now i've been, close With players but

1466
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 5: i've never been.

1467
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: Close. With teams man we, HAD a SAYING i think

1468
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: i think you guys may have sent. It, fifteen strong

1469
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: well we used to put on stuff, in the, bucket

1470
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: but man it never was a time on the road

1471
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: where you ain't see, seven eight, guys you know at,

1472
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: dinner and hanging no matter what. Was going on we

1473
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: only won, fifty TWO games, and i said that's That's

1474
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: a little, but you know we're supposed to war sixty.

1475
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: Plus that year You know. What i'm saying we supposed

1476
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: to have, sixty five wins. Number one seed that wasn't

1477
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: nuts because we had too much. Stuff going on we

1478
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: were doing all, type of things YOU know. What i

1479
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: mean so that wasn't that wasn't that. Wasn't the goal

1480
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: we just knew we got, to the playoffs we was

1481
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: gonna be able.

1482
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 5: To beat anybody it.

1483
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 4: Was, so, tell me like because this is what, people,

1484
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 4: Sleep ON right and i had to tell Somebody this

1485
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 4: on twitter one day because they, were it was you

1486
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 4: know How, be on twitter, the social media back and

1487
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 4: forth they were saying this and THE third and. I

1488
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 4: saw something, i, was like hold Look y'all sleep the

1489
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 4: year they, won That championship walk.

1490
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 3: Dog was the second leading Scorer. Behind the. WADE no

1491
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: Disrespect i loved.

1492
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 4: Shocked to death and that's the most dominant dude to

1493
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 4: ever play the game. In my opinion and now That's,

1494
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 4: the Big. Dog the og but like this. Is a

1495
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 4: fact this.

1496
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 3: Is a fact like my dog did many clutch.

1497
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 4: Things and many, big time moments and he was the

1498
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: second guy.

1499
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 2: That, he was yeah shock that the. They was shocked

1500
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 2: that was a tough. Serious with shock they had. Two

1501
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: good centers they. Put shacking man they had every Year

1502
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: in dat both of those guys put put Shack and.

1503
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: Foul trump early, for whatever reason he was getting. Two

1504
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: fouls early.

1505
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: When you got two three bodies to, throw out him

1506
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 3: it's two. Three, against one yeah so it was tough to.

1507
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: Shock Early on so. Alonzo played great You know what

1508
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: i'm saying at my job AND you're, we i. Mean

1509
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: we don't we were talking about. THIS minion times i

1510
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: heard you guys Talk about d wade finals is one

1511
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: of the top five. Probably ever finals y'all know that

1512
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: that thirty five, a night sinks he got a knight

1513
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: was in. He, became him Yeah that's What, flash became

1514
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: flash YOU know. What i mean so you know that

1515
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,479
Speaker 2: that fightans was something special to be be a. Part

1516
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: of that he he willed us to about two of

1517
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: those victories, On his, Own game. Three game five we

1518
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: put them games. On his back so we played with somebody.

1519
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: That Was special so shaq just had a lot. Of

1520
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: foul trouble he wasn't the fact that people, didn't understand

1521
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: that but other guys stepped up and that that season.

1522
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 6: Was.

1523
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: SO crazy man i WAS more like i always, tell,

1524
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: PEOPLE like man i, PLAYED the, League, i said Man

1525
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: one thing i'm always gonna remember IS that group. I

1526
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: played with i Played with full. Hall Of famers d

1527
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: wade Gonna be A hall of. Famer one day BUT

1528
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 2: you GOT i think I Played with Shaq lonzo morn

1529
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: a Gp to. See alonzo man and a lot of

1530
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: people don't. Talk about this see what he it that

1531
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: year to play the medicine. He was on he.

1532
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 5: HAD one, city i mean the man was taking eighty.

1533
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: Pills.

1534
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 4: A day man you, know we knew, You, know me

1535
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 4: jeff we, got you know. We knew intimately and, like

1536
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 4: they say he.

1537
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: He saved y'all a few.

1538
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 4: Of THEM games and i can remember Talking to d

1539
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 4: WRIGHT And like D Wright and d, wade being like,

1540
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: when YOU know when, i got there they used to

1541
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 4: be like How how hard zoe used to? Be on

1542
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 4: everybody and like You know, what i'm saying like he,

1543
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 4: was you know this is years REMOVED to D n

1544
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 4: D Wade and d, wright BEING like now i can

1545
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 4: understand where he. Was coming from and you saying that

1546
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 4: made me think, About it now like he didn't lost

1547
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 4: the kiddy like he.

1548
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 3: Out here playing he's only. Playing to win he don't.

1549
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 4: Need no money he didn't achieve all these accolades like

1550
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 4: he he.

1551
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 3: Wants to, win AND He, like d wright used to,

1552
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 3: be like bro He.

1553
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 4: Telled big bro like dog that boy used to always

1554
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 4: tell us like we get to we get the tripping,

1555
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 4: in the game, like all right he, coming that thing

1556
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 4: like y'all fucking with My chip chip like.

1557
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: That's that's a special part of it, Out IT man

1558
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 2: like i was like man to be a part of there,

1559
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: with those guys to see how. Bad they, WANTED you

1560
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: know gp, never had one. He got one It Was

1561
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: especially ben shaq obviously with his Little beef Was. God

1562
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: arrest kobe he was trying to Get. One on kobe

1563
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: kobe's trying to get. One on him y'all know they

1564
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: had that little. Beef going on but it. Was like

1565
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 2: that that season was So intensive and i've never had

1566
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: that much fun playing with guys and and boting to just.

1567
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 2: Win the chip and Then we enjoyed miami to. The

1568
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: fullest bag we We enjoyed the miami botha ins is.

1569
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: THE floor it i ain't gonna note tell you.

1570
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 3: They have, they have night they have nice amenities.

1571
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 2: And and.

1572
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 5: Everything, IS true man i ain't gonna.

1573
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 2: Everything is true pati, birse that guy and you're gonna,

1574
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 2: Practice four hours you're gonna do body fat. Every every

1575
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: week but that was. The. BEST thing man i was

1576
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 2: in the best shape of my life down there playing

1577
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 2: and enjoyed every minute of it and got me a championship.

1578
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: Out OF it and i.

1579
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 5: Never forget it when.

1580
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: They brought me, in the myths they were releasing you

1581
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: and they, were signing me.

1582
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: And THAT the day d followed Me, up in memphis

1583
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: took My, job in memphis he, didn't let me and

1584
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: then the man took My. Job, IN charlotte here i,

1585
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: tell you That start getting. I'm doing right i'm trying

1586
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: to get back. In the league this Is the time i'm.

1587
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: Out the league i'm trying to. Get a job so

1588
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: now he.

1589
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 3: On.

1590
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: THE team now, i, was Like Man, coach larry brown

1591
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 2: for to have a guys down for a couple.

1592
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 5: OF weeks workout i FLY.

1593
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: Down b d we down there. Playing every Day WE hoping,

1594
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 2: i'm i done got back in. Some decent, Shape i'm

1595
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 2: Thinking i'm thinking, i'm, playing. GOOD right man i go.

1596
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: TO my meat i go in to The Meeting, with, larry, brown, like, man,

1597
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: coach uh man just bring. Me the camp he like,

1598
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: you played, Well LIKE you But i think i'm gonna go.

1599
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: A little young i'm Gonna bring. D miles, Here i

1600
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 2: said i'm gonna bring the. MILES the, camp, I say

1601
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: man i can't.

1602
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 3: Get, Past It hey i'm i'm learning. From jobs too hey, tell,

1603
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 3: me this though, Tell. Me this dough.

1604
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 4: You you more than Either of us i've had like a

1605
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 4: front row and a more PERSONABLE. Relationship with mj tell

1606
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 4: me how you felt about sitting there watching the last

1607
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: dance from from? What you know, like YOU say YOU

1608
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 4: i can i remember looking at you, in the dock

1609
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 4: You know, what i'm Saying Ninety Eight, all star GAME you,

1610
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 4: and i like look at what young walk dog? Getting

1611
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 4: a building You know, What, i'm saying like how was?

1612
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 4: It for you because you then had so many different experiences,

1613
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 4: hanging with them, being around them, and you, really you

1614
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 4: know you'all.

1615
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: Partners like that so how was that watching the last? Dance?

1616
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: For you man i'm, a BASKETBALL junkie so, i was

1617
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 2: excited man like like any other fan just to watch

1618
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: it and see The behind.

1619
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 5: The saints footage, but for me it just.

1620
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 7: Kind of let me know THAT everything, that i was

1621
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 7: the PERSONAL level that i, was dealing with how.

1622
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 5: Competitive HE was and i think sometime we use that word.

1623
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 2: As an understatement people don't understand, the word Competitive And,

1624
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: see michael jordan nin't you to be. IN a. Dictionary

1625
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: i know and you guys know this how we used to.

1626
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: Go at it we, call each other you know every name.

1627
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 2: In the book how he challenged, me every day but

1628
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: for ME especially because i ain't know him. At THAT

1629
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: time so, I know him i. PLAYED against. HIM i

1630
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 2: wasn't i wasn't in. THIS inner circle i wasn't from

1631
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: that ninety six. NINETY eight, teams i. WASN'T no was

1632
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: i just, Played AGAINST him so i wasn't. In the

1633
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: circle and you guys know. How this go man in two, Thousand,

1634
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: And one man i'm riding, in my CAR never. Forgetting

1635
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: i was i'm riding in my car and my phone

1636
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: ring this back then when you can, call people pride

1637
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: you know you asked a private. Call Back then michael, jordan,

1638
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 2: HE like man i need you to come to the.

1639
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: Gym with me.

1640
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, He like man i'm thinking about.

1641
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: Making the comeback, don't tell nobody but, he, WAS like

1642
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: look i need you to come, to THE gym and

1643
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: i need you to make sure all the guys come.

1644
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: To the. GYM we finished i want TO see if i.

1645
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: Can come back, I'm like okay now y'all know How,

1646
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: this Is Man it's michael jordan's. Called, MY phone man

1647
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 2: i didn't change. All vacation plans, Ain't no vacation ain't

1648
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: none of. That going on it's. ALL about hooping i can.

1649
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: Call My mama like i'm. IN the gym i get

1650
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: there the First Day With. Little hills gym it's me

1651
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 2: and me and Him Upstairs. With tim grover now this tiund.

1652
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: Five years in y'all. Know we do we. Hoop every

1653
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: day we won't messing, with you know we won't messing

1654
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: with no. Weights like, that you know we'll do something,

1655
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: a little bit but we won't messing. WITH no wakes

1656
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 2: i go Up Top with tim grover and. We lifting

1657
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: weights i'm doing. Whatever mj, doing, i'm like. Man that's

1658
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 2: crazy so we gota lyft weights four. Days a week.

1659
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 5: At This time tim grove. AIN'T my trainer I ain't.

1660
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 2: Really i ain't even know.

1661
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 5: It's MY training so i got that invoice at the end.

1662
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 5: Of the summer, that's, all right, right.

1663
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 3: Hey boy what?

1664
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 5: That Way story, but, I'm like man i'm working out.

1665
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 2: With the man and then. It, just happened man our

1666
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 2: relationship just started to build the way he puts hisself

1667
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 2: at thirty eight thirty nine to get self back in

1668
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: shape the way he can. Pease every day y'all, know

1669
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 2: this obviously you guys are, all the RUNS just. Like

1670
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: i was how we compeded every. Day became, special but then,

1671
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: LIKE you say i got an opportunity to hang with him.

1672
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: Off the court man started inviting me, to his home

1673
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 2: around his family. DURING social events i traveled with the grand, openings,

1674
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: With him, restaurants bob whatever he. Had HIS name though,

1675
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 2: I was invited i was a part. OF the group

1676
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 2: i was on, THE private plane i was. Riding WITH

1677
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: him so i got a chance to become a part.

1678
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 2: Of the crew and, you know it it's special to

1679
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: me those six SEVEN years and i got a chance

1680
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: to be with him was. It was incredible, PRIOR to

1681
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: that i thought he was the best player. In the

1682
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: world After Watching, THE last dance i realized more than

1683
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: he was the best player to ever, played the. Game

1684
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: no question and it's just not THE fact that i

1685
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: take Away From, the Lebron James, the Kobe bryant the

1686
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 2: maxis and. ALL those guys i just believe it's nobody

1687
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: that wanted to win, more than him that took. IT

1688
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: that Way i think kobe a little bit had a.

1689
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 2: PASSION like That i. Think magic Did but EVEN lebron And.

1690
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 2: I love lebron lebron's one of the top players that will.

1691
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 2: Play the game he in, my TOP five but i

1692
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 2: don't think their passion is, at that level YOU know?

1693
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 2: What i mean the way he wanted to keep the

1694
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: core of, the team together the way he motivated, and

1695
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: pushed guys Not Just, the scottie pippens to, push the

1696
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 2: tenth eleven and twelfth guy. TO be good i mean

1697
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: he did it in. HIS own way i mean. He did,

1698
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 2: it you know he will verbally abuse you and you

1699
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: have to be man enough. To take it but the

1700
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: way he pushed everybody every. Day WAS incredible so i

1701
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: enjoyed that Aspect of the docorrientary. More than anything and

1702
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 2: then it kind of like, you, guys, Know like man

1703
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: i'm glad to know that this really. Was his personality

1704
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 2: and y'all know how he wanted to win in. Games

1705
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: of seven so IT'S just like, i, was like man

1706
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: this is. THE same Dude.

1707
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 5: I get like, i WAS like all i kept SAYING

1708
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 5: is like.

1709
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: I get.

1710
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 4: It, it's him yeah he staying in that, same vein

1711
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 4: right just speak on how impactful like on your career

1712
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 4: and all of, both of us all of us on

1713
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 4: here like them runs AT, hoops with tg and, like,

1714
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 4: even LIKE okay when, i first started obviously It was

1715
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 4: with mike and those, guys was there but even moving on,

1716
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:21,520
Speaker 4: forward past that like how impactful were those summer sessions

1717
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 4: that we had of like literally just, iron sharpening iron

1718
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 4: the best, of the best people coming, from all over

1719
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 4: but even our even when It, was just chicago we

1720
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 4: was it was the best, of the best and, it

1721
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 4: was enough but we often had people. From all over

1722
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 4: but just talk about how Those runs AT who's with

1723
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 4: tg and, all.

1724
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 3: Of us how that how that like just sent us back.

1725
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: INTO the SEASON i think i think it it just

1726
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 2: shows us what type of players, that, we Were, myself

1727
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: you darius the way we pushed each. Other talk trash

1728
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: People don't. UNDERSTAND chicago Basketball i know michael makes the

1729
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 2: runs legendary, when he comes but they were already letting

1730
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 2: different and people don't understand how competitive and every day

1731
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: you look forward to, bouting each other and the beauty

1732
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: of it is that we can boutle each other between

1733
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 2: the lines And, Then, That, thursday friday saturday We, At, the.

1734
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 3: Tuesday tuesday we. At the bus we.

1735
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 4: At the bus you already know about about the BUDGET

1736
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 4: and if, I get you i'm talking crap at.

1737
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 2: You already know and that's what, made it special how

1738
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: we pushed each other every day and then people don't

1739
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: understand it was probably twenty. Five thirty pros i'm not

1740
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: even Talking about. The european, man, Of course yeah.

1741
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 4: I'm not there You go the uros having problems getting

1742
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 4: on the court Someday.

1743
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 5: About, The european professionals i'm talking.

1744
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 2: About justin pros you gotta Thank Us, Three Michael finley

1745
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 2: Juwan Howe, And Tim. HARDAWAY bobby, simmons i mean the

1746
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: list goes. On and on and they Had all the

1747
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 2: bulls players that wanted to come over and play like

1748
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: it was just. It was incredible so people don't. Understand

1749
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: the runs and that's what Sometimes, NOW in chicago i

1750
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 2: get so disappointed in our YOUNG guys because i have

1751
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: so much, respect FOR them but i get saw disappointing

1752
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: them that they didn't keep the torch going. That was

1753
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 2: built THE reason Why i love chicago BASKETBALL is because

1754
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: i was a Ball Boy, Watching Mark, Whire Kevin, Duckworth Terry,

1755
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: Cummins Ken. Norman ricky green You know. WHAT i'm saying

1756
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: i grew up watching those type. Of guys play that's

1757
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: what made me want. To DO it, and, I just

1758
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 2: MAN i think i thought we did a good job

1759
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: Of showing them chicago basketball being, present every day playing.

1760
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 4: Just for me You know, what i'm saying as a

1761
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 4: as a as, a, YOUNG boy like i just gotta

1762
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 4: salute you on, being that example You know, what i'm

1763
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 4: saying not just you know You along with, Jawan Y'all,

1764
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 4: too mike, finley y'all, too y'all guys was like real.

1765
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 4: Examples For me, a chicago kid You know, what i'm saying.

1766
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 4: WHO said that i watched you literally got a chance

1767
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 4: to be right there, as a freshman seeing you play Against,

1768
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 4: my cousin rico seeing You, go to kentucky seeing you,

1769
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 4: take these steps go, to McDonald's game and That's like when,

1770
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 4: i'm sitting there like all of these things are.

1771
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: Doable for me you.

1772
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 4: Was a kid from, the inner city a kid that

1773
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 4: You know, what i'm saying walk the same, streets as

1774
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 4: me took the same public.

1775
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 3: Transportation AS me.

1776
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 4: So i just want to give you your flowers and

1777
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 4: salute you and thank you For being the You know

1778
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 4: what i'm saying from all. All all aspects You know,

1779
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 4: what i'm saying from the way you was, WITH your

1780
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 4: crew i want to be like. That like you you,

1781
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 4: you took yo you made everybody got. The experience this

1782
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 4: it wasn't. A selfish thing i felt like, EVEN with

1783
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 4: me i didn't been in the club with you. When

1784
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 4: you didn't You know what i'm saying about the whole

1785
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 4: club out for however, the next hour make Sure EVERYBODY

1786
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 4: but and i always looked at it like, cause you

1787
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 4: know some people they.

1788
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 3: Get it Confused.

1789
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: THEY being nah i looked at it LIKE because when

1790
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 4: i got, IN that position i, FELT the, SAME i,

1791
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 4: said I said and. I can understand i can. Identify

1792
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 4: with it you want everybody else to have the same

1793
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,839
Speaker 4: fun and the same. Joy you having you wasn't, selfish

1794
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 4: in that like all Right, Me, and ma. NAH it's

1795
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 4: ain't i want everybody to be a experiences. On SOME

1796
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 4: level so i ALWAYS take and i appreciate the like like,

1797
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 4: the mind said the, battles against you the times we

1798
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 4: in the gym and we get to talk before after

1799
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 4: we hoop and those gyms to get dropped in the

1800
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 4: things that you juwan, seeing passed down just talking, and

1801
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 4: just seeing just, seeing that example just seeing.

1802
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 3: How to do and how to be a pro and.

1803
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 4: HOW to move, i, Appreciate you BRO that's all i want,

1804
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 4: to just Say as a chicago boy that came up

1805
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 4: under you and watched and saw you take the league

1806
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 4: by storm and be you. And represent us every time

1807
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 4: YOU was doing i always Had probably, that's chicago boy that's,

1808
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 4: One of us like YOU know.

1809
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 3: What i, MEAN so like, i, Appreciate you bro.

1810
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: But let me tell you this before y'all get me

1811
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: off here. For thirty seconds one thing y'all got.

1812
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 7: To understand too and We all from chicago and it's

1813
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 7: been in blooded in my. Blood from everywhere we take,

1814
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 7: care of home AND we all i feel like we

1815
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 7: all been through the wars and. The battles together that's

1816
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 7: why it's real easy for, us to, all you know

1817
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,799
Speaker 7: come together as has grown me now as we progress.

1818
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 7: In Our careers, but, i'm excited man watch. YOU guys

1819
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 7: show i think you guys are doing.

1820
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 2: A terrific job But, also, for chicago man you guys

1821
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: represent the, CITY really well i think sometimes people Forget

1822
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 2: how strong, chicago basketball is and you guys always made

1823
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: sure to reiterate that and also keep the lights of

1824
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 2: A lot. Of chicago guys you guys have Had all

1825
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: the chicago, stars on that from the women basketball players.

1826
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 2: To the, Men you know i'm watching from from afar always,

1827
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: As a fan so you guys have done a terrific

1828
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: job whatever kind of, carrying the torch AND that's all i, want,

1829
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 2: to do guys to carry the torch that carry the.

1830
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 2: Trucks FOR us so i got that respect for, the

1831
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: Market Guise.

1832
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 7: The isaiah thomas is in the world and what they

1833
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 7: did For to see chicago hopefully, you know, myself you

1834
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 7: guys we feel like we hopefully made some type of impact.

1835
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 5: To help the younger. Generation come up but, y'all, should

1836
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 5: know man y'all doing.

1837
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 2: A good job a lot of. People are, watching you

1838
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: know you may not get all of the response that

1839
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: you know that see on, the personal level but a

1840
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 2: lot of people love, y'all show man and watch what

1841
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 2: y'all doing it because y'all keeping it real and and

1842
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 2: giving real basketball perspectives that that the fans.

1843
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 3: Like to hear so keep it, UP man, man i appreciate, appreciate.

1844
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 2: That you Sir keep Up

1845
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:37,240
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