WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Getting Rowdy 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:07.160 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:15.240 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:16.840 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:17.400 Yes? 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:19.280 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:20.040 Absolutely? 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.439 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.800 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:36.520 with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.440 It is Tuesday, December third, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.080 episode number seventy eight. Welcome to the latest edition All 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.839 the Raak Live from that s WBC Mortgage Studios at 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.040 the Star, presented by LG. LG is the world's number 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.000 one o ed TV brand for eleven years in counting 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.800 See why at LG dot Com Forward slash o ed evo, 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.720 and once again, Brian is dressed in LSU gear. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:00.120 We're going to keep this one. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.200 We're gonna see just how many days we can roll 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.840 in a row with LSU gear before he decides to 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.560 go with something else, maybe a Texas hoody. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:07.959 I don't know. 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:08.920 We'll see time. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.080 I got to burn orange shirt, I can wear you 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:12.600 gotta what I gotta burn orange shirt. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:14.520 I can wark see you rock a texta shirt once 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:15.119 or twice I. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.480 Did because of that, because of Yeah. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:19.600 Give us a little love. You know, we're in the 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:20.360 championship game. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:21.800 I would give you some love if you get a 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.240 microphone that work. Here, Derek Ian, what the heck is. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:25.040 Going on here? 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.040 Changing the subject, I'm not talking about our tilet our 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.119 stuff that's broken. 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:29.920 Did you just break it? 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:30.840 I think I just broke it. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:31.720 Oh you just broke it. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.680 Oh you just We're a ten billion dollar company and 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:35.399 I just broke it. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.400 I just broke this thing. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.120 Oh man, Okay, anyway, I we gotta hold it. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:40.720 The whole show beam is gonna come strike you. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:41.160 Over the head. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:42.120 Man. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:43.399 I think the sink stripped. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.440 No, I agree. I think it's broken. I saw it. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.520 I think it's broken. You might just have to hold 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.040 it there, prop it up on something. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.840 Hi, how's it going? Guys on in this corner? 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:55.840 Fighting out of the blue corner. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.840 Let's get into it. Actually, I wanted to end here today. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:02.200 You want to hold this mic while I do my 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:03.600 segment to ask you questions? 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.720 Right in the first segment today, I do want to Uh, 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:06.560 we didn't get a chance. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.520 We went to the Whole Show yesterday. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.359 Did we talk about the game and didn't even get 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.280 to the defensive side of the ball, which I think 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.040 was probably the story of the game. As you mentioned, 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.640 Nick uh. So, we're going to talk a little bit 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.639 about the defense here in the first segment. Then we'll 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.600 get inside the brain of Brian brought us in the 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.680 second segment. He should have lots of questions for us, 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.480 and then we'll try to get to some fan questions 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.560 in the third. We have a couple I've already rolled in. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:29.960 If you want to send me some you can hit 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.000 me on Twitter. You can also call us eight eight 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.079 eight eight five five two two nine seven. It'd be 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:35.440 good to hear from you, guys. We haven't heard from 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.120 you in a while, so hopefully we'll get a call 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.560 or two there in the final segment. Let's start first, though, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.600 with the defensive side of the ball. Just as big 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.600 picture obviously demarve on Overshown. We know he was remarkable 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.440 in that game. Aside from him, what stood out to 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.200 you most about this defensive performance? 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.720 Can I mention one quick thing about Overshown? Absolutely, just 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.519 because we've been talking about it on this show quite 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.400 a bit and Mike McCarthy mentioned it yesterday. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:02:59.960 I think it'll excite everybody in this room. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:00.399 Zero. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:05.280 He's like, yeah, that that morning, Jared, it was great 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:06.200 to hear that in the public. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:07.120 It was great to hear. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.799 You've heard that story. I've heard that story, but it's. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.080 Great to hear that out in the public now that 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:11.240 I can share it with other people. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:13.519 No, I did not. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.040 I was listening to him coming in and was it 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.600 one of the final questions. 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.359 He told the water gun rowdy story, okay, and the 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:26.760 rowdy van at a specific ye gentleman's place, Yeah, story. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.280 And his answer being like the best dance I've ever 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.119 heard anybody give Jerry. When Jerry's like, hey man, we're 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.240 having all these issues right now, like you need to 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.800 you need to calm it down, figure out how to 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.720 do the job right. And his response was, Now he's 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.200 sitting there in his regular gear like us regular clothes, 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.240 and his response is, I'll tell Rowdy. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.920 I'll let Rowdy know. That's what he told Rowdy. 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.600 That's that's what that's what the guy that played Rowdy 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:52.160 told Jerry. 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:52.800 And we all know him. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.960 He's a great guy, but he is a quality He's 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.520 a great guy, but hilarious, Like I thought that was 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.080 the best and Jerry said, I actually appreciate there's like 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.080 you know, you're discipline your kids. I was always like, 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:06.720 if you can make me laugh, you might get out of. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.120 Truck, and like, you know, can you I don't know 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.600 if I can ask this question on air? Can you 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:16.680 confirm or deny something for me? Rowdy at one time 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:21.120 loses job and then tried it out as rowdy again 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:22.000 and want it back. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.280 I cannot confirm or deny. Okay, I cannot. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:27.960 Exist. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.440 I was I've heard the tales. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.440 There's so many great stories, and I was surprised that 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.080 Jerry went to air with those because I was like, 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.320 I didn't know we were telling. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:40.760 People about that. 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:45.120 I was probably if you know the guy there are 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.800 there are even better stories than that. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.320 Also, which version of rowdy, because. 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.680 Well, we know what we are, we know are this 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.479 was the first rowdy I was ever changed. And he 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.240 was awesome guy, but he was off the chain, like 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.800 when Jerry says he appreciated his willingness to go all 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:06.760 out to be great, like that's him, like. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:11.400 He would do anything. The last. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:14.280 This is this is pre Heidi. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.560 Those don't know that's our senior senior person. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.640 You want to chime in one of the all time. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.159 I found something out about Chris Well. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:28.000 I'll tell you what. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:28.400 I was. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.640 My roommate at training camp this year was the current rowdy. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.440 We had a great guys, guy guy, We had a 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:34.960 great time. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:35.600 That's my dude. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.440 So yeah, shout to him. You're bringing me in this. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.400 What did you say you're bringing me into this? I 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.320 just played rowdy before. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.920 Yeah, okay, I just wanted you to share the person. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.279 I've been in the suit before. 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:51.440 What was it for? 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.800 He double booked an appearance at an Albersons. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:57.880 I had to go sign autograph. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.320 It wasn't at that gentleman's club. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.159 No, it was a and Alvin Sins and like South 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:03.239 Oak Cliff. 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:04.560 Do you have to learn how to like sign this? 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:05.040 Yes? 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:05.400 I did. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:06.520 I did. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:14.320 I'll tell you. I'll tell you one thing. Roy, Okay. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.800 Derek and I started the same time basically with the 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:17.920 Colvioys nineteen ninety nine. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:18.840 Yes, okay. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.400 We were in Wichita Falls early two thousands for training camp. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.640 It was the hottest I've ever been in my life. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.440 And I've lived in Texas the majority I'm from we're 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:29.600 all from not you're not from here. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:30.840 And we're doing two a days at that day. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:31.599 So we're doing to it. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.559 It is like literally you're standing there and like there's 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.120 not a dry so I mean, just standing there, you're. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.720 Just drinking like you just got out of a pool. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.479 My man rowdy, He's got full costume on, jumping around 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.159 doing everything. I'm about to go down. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.720 From heat exhaustion just taking a knee watching practice. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.840 My man had on full rowdy suit, interacting with fans, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.160 jumping around, riding the scooter. 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.360 He has Like, I'm like. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.560 That is the toughest dude at this camp right now. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.120 Who's ever in that suit is the toughest human being 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.360 I've ever known. Because it was one hundred and eight 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.440 hundred and ten every day, every day we practice, and 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.680 he would and two days, two day practices out there, 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.480 jumping around, interacting with fans. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.520 Not one time did he miss the day. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.440 And the interesting thing about that, this part that's really 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.760 crazy is in wichitaf Falls, there was this one or 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.559 actually two spots, but there was this one spot every 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.600 night every you guys are gone to camp, but every 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.160 night everybody. 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:30.920 Everybody went to this one spot. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.080 It was the only spot in town where people could 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.240 really hang out. And everybody goes there. He every night 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.040 was the first one there, last one the league, and 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.360 by the next one he was up in full costume. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.120 I'm ready to go, no doubt about it. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:51.400 Yeah, it would actually be a fascinating It would be like. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.600 A lot more comical. You had to make it funny. 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.480 I think there would be a lot of those like 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.960 the you know the shadow, but you hear the voice, 0:07:58.160 --> 0:07:59.720 you know it's actually. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.000 You said the shadow of Rowdy. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:02.960 Actual would be. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.400 Great talking explaining. 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.720 Like us in shadows. Rowdy was one of my better friends. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.120 It was one night where Rowdy and I went out. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:25.240 He said, sorry, that was great. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.560 What Mike McCarthy had said yesterday and his press are 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.480 about De Marvy and Overshown is that they need to 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.400 line him up off the edge more and get him 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:32.680 more pass rush opportunities. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.559 I was like, Hey, here we go. We made it. 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:35.640 Listen to the break. 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.040 We're here. We we have officially made it. On the 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:39.760 Marvin Over came back to Rowdy. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.400 Talk nobody. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:45.840 Nobody, nobody wants to see Over so. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:55.199 Succeeds overall defensively, Aside from Overshown, I think I expected 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.839 Tyrone Tracy to have more of an impact than he. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:58.560 Did that game. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.560 So I have to give credit to that defense for 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.400 being able to limit him. You also have to look 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.640 at Eric Hendricks. He had an awesome game on Thursday 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.240 as well, ten tackles, He had another sack. He's starting 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.439 to rack up some sacks, which is really interesting as well, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.839 had that forced fumble. I think if Overston's not on 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.480 the field, I think Eric Kendricks is a guy we're 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.840 talking about coming out of that game, just because of 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.480 the impact he had. His veteran presence is I think 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.240 slightly underrated when you talk about this defense and how 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.280 they've been able to rebound over the course of the 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.439 last few weeks. Yes, we talk about Micah coming back 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.960 from injury. Yes we could talk about guys like Jordan 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.520 Lewis to Marvin Overshow him being these dogs on defense. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.760 But Eric Hendricks is a leader of that group right now, 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.160 and credit's got to be given to fifty. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:38.640 I think he's done a really good job so far. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.000 Yeah, I tell you what, another Division game and another 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.320 elevation we're playing. Well was Mazzie Smith, you know, and 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.040 so you have to if he could just keep doing that, 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.200 you know, that's all they need to ask from him 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.920 right now. Positive games, positive reinforcement. Let him get to 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.200 the next one, and you know, hopefully he can he 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.400 can find a way to be a bit of a 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:01.480 force up front for you. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.360 Yeah, again, you got to be aware of who the 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.720 last two opponents have been. But overall, I think the defense, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:13.360 they're starting to play faster and not being afraid to 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.640 tackle and go for it. And I think it's when 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.080 the linebackers have a good game, more often than not, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.319 the rest of your defense had a good game, So 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.240 it's key. It's the linebacker group is such a key 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.800 position for this defense. Obviously the pass rush there is 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:37.880 important too, but the way that Zimmer is starting to 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.640 manage this defense, you're starting to see some improvement. And 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.600 I wish we could get a moment where we have 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.920 all the players healthy and they're all your starters to 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.600 actually get a good look of what this defense could 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.360 have been, because now I'm still wondering. I'm like, Okay, 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.920 do we want Zimmer back or not? And it's hard 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.439 to judge when you've had so many defensive players, starters, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.920 key players out of the game due to injuries. So 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.800 I don't know how you truly get a chance to 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.839 judge what Zimmer has started to do or being able 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.520 or not able to do this season so far. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.240 That's really by Barbara asked me the same question this morning. 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.079 He's like, Zimmer back next year. I was like, that's 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.199 going to be a really fun conversation. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:24.959 And I'll tell you this January. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.839 Yeah, exactly, And I think in January that the conversation. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.680 If things keep going the way they're going, there's going 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.000 to be an interesting conversation about Mike McCarthy as well. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:33.480 I know no one wants to hear. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.720 That, but I just thinking about how we've seen Jerry 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.560 do things in the past. I think because of his 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.679 level of optimism, if this thing keeps going to where 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.000 they crack up some wins and they make this thing 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.000 really interesting down the stretch, whether they get into the 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.319 playoffs or not, Let's say that going from where they 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.320 came from, Let's say they end up nine to eight 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.960 and they only drop one game here before the end 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:56.319 of the season, They're not going to be in the 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:00.000 playoffs probably, But I think that does give Jerry something 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.199 to think about, and I wonder if he's like, you know, this. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.160 Year we were racked. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.040 There are a lot of reasons why if you want 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.240 to convince yourself that this is not about coaching, that 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.600 this is about a lot of other things. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.120 There are a lot of the things you can point to. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.800 So I just think there's gonna be some very interesting 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.920 conversations in January if this thing keeps continuing down this track, if. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.920 That were to happen, if McCarthy comes back, I see 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.319 a reality where it's a two year deal. It doesn't 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:25.600 want to be a one year deal. I don't think 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.760 McCarthy wants to be on an expiring nor should it be. 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.559 I don't think nor should it be. He doesn't want 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.599 to answer the questions about expiring contracts anymore, and I 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.600 don't think he should either. But it gives everybody one 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.680 year to figure figure it out. And if McCarthy is 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.600 is right for the long term future, for the rest 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.720 of Dak's time in Dallas, because that's a that's immediately 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.040 what you're going to be looking at when you're talking 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.280 about the offense side of the ball. I don't see 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.760 a reality right now though, where McCarthy is back without 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:51.720 a different play caller. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.240 See that's what I'm saying that I could see that. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:55.680 I will give you a difference. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.199 I will consider giving you an extension if you change 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.800 who is the primary and I like him, yeah, and 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.280 if it's if it's shoddy or you know, going out 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:06.960 and get one of these guys that are gonna get 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.480 let go, or you steal somebody from somebody else. If 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.120 we don't come to that agreement, then I'm gonna have 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.360 to let you go. That's that's that's, that's my ultimatum 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.280 to you. You're either gonna change the play caller and 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.840 keep your job or you're not gonna do that, and 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.760 you're gonna be looking like and I'll go interview somebody else, 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:26.920 is what I'll do. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.120 So because that's the biggest problem right now, the biggest offense, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:31.200 you would say, right. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.839 Without a doubt, without a doubt, you know you, and 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.240 you've got huge money tied up in your offense. Yep, 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.880 you've got to figure You got now four more years 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.320 of Dak Prescott, you know of You better figure that 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.120 one out or that's gonna become real expensive for you 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.040 to to have to deal with. And you better figure 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.520 out something for your wide receiver too, you know, because 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.920 he's gonna need he's gonna. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:53.520 Need some help as well. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.360 The assumption is that you're going to bring in one, 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.959 maybe two backs this offseason as well. You want to 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.240 be able to maximize what they can bring to the 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.920 offense as young guys, you would you would assume. So yeah, 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.079 it's that's another really fascinating conversation. This coaching staff. I 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.400 don't think is as slam dunk like out of here, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.559 and I think as everyone thinks there is, can I 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.680 just don't. I don't believe that. I really don't. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.320 I know, I got some questions coming up, but this 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.040 wasn't one of my questions. So do you think Mike 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.320 McCarthy wants to be back? 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:24.640 Yes, is there a side of him that he knows 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:25.200 the drill? 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.480 But is he okay with the drill? 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.760 I don't think he likes the media to be one. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:33.320 I don't think he is everyone. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.800 I don't think it's specifically the Cowboys. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.160 You don't think the Cowboys media exactly. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.440 What the what the national spotlight brings from this building. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.480 I don't think he's a different green Bay is a 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.240 lot different. But last time I was in Green Bay 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.760 was ninety five. But yeah, it's it's not. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:53.560 Even from a national because I think the one of 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.360 theranchises that gets a lot of national attemptions. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.200 No, no, they they're very they're very nice to those guys. 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.600 Ever time, not that we're mean. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.640 I've never been here, you know this, I don't know. 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:04.720 No, No, it's not that. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.600 I don't think that we're mean, But but I think 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:08.800 it's the national media. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.800 Everything scrutinized around here, like green Bay three. Green Bay 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.320 Tours are not getting an article on ESPN. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.800 That's all due respect to ESPN, but Green Bay Tours 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.120 are not getting coverage like that. Everything is scrutinized in 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.040 this building, from the way you breathe, the way you walk, 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.840 to the way you talk. I don't think McCarthy is 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.720 the biggest fan of that, and I don't think anybody 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.440 in their right mind would be. Some people learn to 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.240 live with it a little bit better than others. I 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.000 think you could look at some coaches in the past, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:33.800 or some quarterbacks in the past that live with it 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.680 a little bit better than others. I think Dak Prescott's 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.240 a good example of that. He just takes it and 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.320 moves on. I think he doesn't like that aspect of it, 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.240 but I think he likes the aspect of being the 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:43.600 head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.200 I'm firm in my belief in that. 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.080 And my other thought is, I don't know if let's 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.960 say the Cowboys move on, I'm not sure that next 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.040 year another team's gonna be like, yeah, might come on 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:54.600 over be our head coach. So if he wants to 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.160 be a head coach, maybe his best option for next 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.080 year is to be here right now. That does I 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.840 mean in a future couple of years down the road, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.640 maybe another team's like, yeah, we'll gould and give him 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.640 another shot. But that's hard when you start talking about 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.640 getting that third shot. Yeah, it gets to slim Pickens 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:11.800 to give you that third shot. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:12.040 Good. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:13.960 I think he's been good as a head coach. I 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.440 agree now that the play color is where it comes. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.000 I mean it was basically his decision or I don't know. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.920 I wasn't in there, but Kellen Moore parted ways with 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.880 the Cowboys, he took over. He was the one wanting 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:25.960 to call the plays. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:26.840 Last year. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.920 I think you were still seeing the effects of what 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.040 Kellen Moore have put together, and then this year it's 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.000 all being you and you haven't. I mean, I think 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.960 it's it's very difficult for you to defend the play 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:43.320 callers thing when you don't change it. I mean we've 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.040 seen last week, we saw a little bit, but other 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.080 than that, I mean, it's been a whole season. Season 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.440 is about to be over, and you just do the 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.600 same thing over and over and over. You get to 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.040 watch film, you get everybody in there, and those are 0:16:56.080 --> 0:17:01.000