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Speaker 6: and once again, Brian is dressed in LSU gear.
Speaker 3: We're going to keep this one.
Speaker 6: We're gonna see just how many days we can roll
Speaker 6: in a row with LSU gear before he decides to
Speaker 6: go with something else, maybe a Texas hoody.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll see time.
Speaker 7: I got to burn orange shirt, I can wear you
Speaker 7: gotta what I gotta burn orange shirt.
Speaker 8: I can wark see you rock a texta shirt once
Speaker 8: or twice I.
Speaker 4: Did because of that, because of Yeah.
Speaker 3: Give us a little love. You know, we're in the
Speaker 3: championship game.
Speaker 7: I would give you some love if you get a
Speaker 7: microphone that work. Here, Derek Ian, what the heck is.
Speaker 2: Going on here?
Speaker 6: Changing the subject, I'm not talking about our tilet our
Speaker 6: stuff that's broken.
Speaker 3: Did you just break it?
Speaker 4: I think I just broke it.
Speaker 3: Oh you just broke it.
Speaker 7: Oh you just We're a ten billion dollar company and
Speaker 7: I just broke it.
Speaker 4: I just broke this thing.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Okay, anyway, I we gotta hold it.
Speaker 8: The whole show beam is gonna come strike you.
Speaker 3: Over the head.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 4: I think the sink stripped.
Speaker 3: No, I agree. I think it's broken. I saw it.
Speaker 3: I think it's broken. You might just have to hold
Speaker 3: it there, prop it up on something.
Speaker 4: Hi, how's it going? Guys on in this corner?
Speaker 8: Fighting out of the blue corner.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Actually, I wanted to end here today.
Speaker 4: You want to hold this mic while I do my
Speaker 4: segment to ask you questions?
Speaker 6: Right in the first segment today, I do want to Uh,
Speaker 6: we didn't get a chance.
Speaker 3: We went to the Whole Show yesterday.
Speaker 6: Did we talk about the game and didn't even get
Speaker 6: to the defensive side of the ball, which I think
Speaker 6: was probably the story of the game. As you mentioned,
Speaker 6: Nick uh. So, we're going to talk a little bit
Speaker 6: about the defense here in the first segment. Then we'll
Speaker 6: get inside the brain of Brian brought us in the
Speaker 6: second segment. He should have lots of questions for us,
Speaker 6: and then we'll try to get to some fan questions
Speaker 6: in the third. We have a couple I've already rolled in.
Speaker 6: If you want to send me some you can hit
Speaker 6: me on Twitter. You can also call us eight eight
Speaker 6: eight eight five five two two nine seven. It'd be
Speaker 6: good to hear from you, guys. We haven't heard from
Speaker 6: you in a while, so hopefully we'll get a call
Speaker 6: or two there in the final segment. Let's start first, though,
Speaker 6: with the defensive side of the ball. Just as big
Speaker 6: picture obviously demarve on Overshown. We know he was remarkable
Speaker 6: in that game. Aside from him, what stood out to
Speaker 6: you most about this defensive performance?
Speaker 10: Can I mention one quick thing about Overshown? Absolutely, just
Speaker 10: because we've been talking about it on this show quite
Speaker 10: a bit and Mike McCarthy mentioned it yesterday.
Speaker 8: I think it'll excite everybody in this room.
Speaker 4: Zero.
Speaker 10: He's like, yeah, that that morning, Jared, it was great
Speaker 10: to hear that in the public.
Speaker 8: It was great to hear.
Speaker 3: You've heard that story. I've heard that story, but it's.
Speaker 10: Great to hear that out in the public now that
Speaker 10: I can share it with other people.
Speaker 4: No, I did not.
Speaker 7: I was listening to him coming in and was it
Speaker 7: one of the final questions.
Speaker 10: He told the water gun rowdy story, okay, and the
Speaker 10: rowdy van at a specific ye gentleman's place, Yeah, story.
Speaker 6: And his answer being like the best dance I've ever
Speaker 6: heard anybody give Jerry. When Jerry's like, hey man, we're
Speaker 6: having all these issues right now, like you need to
Speaker 6: you need to calm it down, figure out how to
Speaker 6: do the job right. And his response was, Now he's
Speaker 6: sitting there in his regular gear like us regular clothes,
Speaker 6: and his response is, I'll tell Rowdy.
Speaker 3: I'll let Rowdy know. That's what he told Rowdy.
Speaker 6: That's that's what that's what the guy that played Rowdy
Speaker 6: told Jerry.
Speaker 3: And we all know him.
Speaker 6: He's a great guy, but he is a quality He's
Speaker 6: a great guy, but hilarious, Like I thought that was
Speaker 6: the best and Jerry said, I actually appreciate there's like
Speaker 6: you know, you're discipline your kids. I was always like,
Speaker 6: if you can make me laugh, you might get out of.
Speaker 7: Truck, and like, you know, can you I don't know
Speaker 7: if I can ask this question on air? Can you
Speaker 7: confirm or deny something for me? Rowdy at one time
Speaker 7: loses job and then tried it out as rowdy again
Speaker 7: and want it back.
Speaker 2: I cannot confirm or deny. Okay, I cannot.
Speaker 11: Exist.
Speaker 4: I was I've heard the tales.
Speaker 6: There's so many great stories, and I was surprised that
Speaker 6: Jerry went to air with those because I was like,
Speaker 6: I didn't know we were telling.
Speaker 4: People about that.
Speaker 7: I was probably if you know the guy there are
Speaker 7: there are even better stories than that.
Speaker 11: Also, which version of rowdy, because.
Speaker 6: Well, we know what we are, we know are this
Speaker 6: was the first rowdy I was ever changed. And he
Speaker 6: was awesome guy, but he was off the chain, like
Speaker 6: when Jerry says he appreciated his willingness to go all
Speaker 6: out to be great, like that's him, like.
Speaker 3: He would do anything. The last.
Speaker 4: This is this is pre Heidi.
Speaker 3: Those don't know that's our senior senior person.
Speaker 12: You want to chime in one of the all time.
Speaker 12: I found something out about Chris Well.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 13: I was.
Speaker 10: My roommate at training camp this year was the current rowdy.
Speaker 10: We had a great guys, guy guy, We had a
Speaker 10: great time.
Speaker 8: That's my dude.
Speaker 3: So yeah, shout to him. You're bringing me in this.
Speaker 3: What did you say you're bringing me into this? I
Speaker 3: just played rowdy before.
Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, I just wanted you to share the person.
Speaker 3: I've been in the suit before.
Speaker 8: What was it for?
Speaker 10: He double booked an appearance at an Albersons.
Speaker 4: I had to go sign autograph.
Speaker 3: It wasn't at that gentleman's club.
Speaker 6: No, it was a and Alvin Sins and like South
Speaker 6: Oak Cliff.
Speaker 8: Do you have to learn how to like sign this?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you. I'll tell you one thing. Roy, Okay.
Speaker 7: Derek and I started the same time basically with the
Speaker 7: Colvioys nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay.
Speaker 7: We were in Wichita Falls early two thousands for training camp.
Speaker 7: It was the hottest I've ever been in my life.
Speaker 7: And I've lived in Texas the majority I'm from we're
Speaker 7: all from not you're not from here.
Speaker 3: And we're doing two a days at that day.
Speaker 4: So we're doing to it.
Speaker 7: It is like literally you're standing there and like there's
Speaker 7: not a dry so I mean, just standing there, you're.
Speaker 3: Just drinking like you just got out of a pool.
Speaker 7: My man rowdy, He's got full costume on, jumping around
Speaker 7: doing everything. I'm about to go down.
Speaker 4: From heat exhaustion just taking a knee watching practice.
Speaker 7: My man had on full rowdy suit, interacting with fans,
Speaker 7: jumping around, riding the scooter.
Speaker 4: He has Like, I'm like.
Speaker 7: That is the toughest dude at this camp right now.
Speaker 7: Who's ever in that suit is the toughest human being
Speaker 7: I've ever known. Because it was one hundred and eight
Speaker 7: hundred and ten every day, every day we practice, and
Speaker 7: he would and two days, two day practices out there,
Speaker 7: jumping around, interacting with fans.
Speaker 4: Not one time did he miss the day.
Speaker 6: And the interesting thing about that, this part that's really
Speaker 6: crazy is in wichitaf Falls, there was this one or
Speaker 6: actually two spots, but there was this one spot every
Speaker 6: night every you guys are gone to camp, but every
Speaker 6: night everybody.
Speaker 4: Everybody went to this one spot.
Speaker 6: It was the only spot in town where people could
Speaker 6: really hang out. And everybody goes there. He every night
Speaker 6: was the first one there, last one the league, and
Speaker 6: by the next one he was up in full costume.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to go, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it would actually be a fascinating It would be like.
Speaker 3: A lot more comical. You had to make it funny.
Speaker 7: I think there would be a lot of those like
Speaker 7: the you know the shadow, but you hear the voice,
Speaker 7: you know it's actually.
Speaker 3: You said the shadow of Rowdy.
Speaker 4: Actual would be.
Speaker 3: Great talking explaining.
Speaker 4: Like us in shadows. Rowdy was one of my better friends.
Speaker 7: It was one night where Rowdy and I went out.
Speaker 8: He said, sorry, that was great.
Speaker 10: What Mike McCarthy had said yesterday and his press are
Speaker 10: about De Marvy and Overshown is that they need to
Speaker 10: line him up off the edge more and get him
Speaker 10: more pass rush opportunities.
Speaker 8: I was like, Hey, here we go. We made it.
Speaker 3: Listen to the break.
Speaker 8: We're here. We we have officially made it. On the
Speaker 8: Marvin Over came back to Rowdy.
Speaker 3: Talk nobody.
Speaker 4: Nobody, nobody wants to see Over so.
Speaker 10: Succeeds overall defensively, Aside from Overshown, I think I expected
Speaker 10: Tyrone Tracy to have more of an impact than he.
Speaker 4: Did that game.
Speaker 10: So I have to give credit to that defense for
Speaker 10: being able to limit him. You also have to look
Speaker 10: at Eric Hendricks. He had an awesome game on Thursday
Speaker 10: as well, ten tackles, He had another sack. He's starting
Speaker 10: to rack up some sacks, which is really interesting as well,
Speaker 10: had that forced fumble. I think if Overston's not on
Speaker 10: the field, I think Eric Kendricks is a guy we're
Speaker 10: talking about coming out of that game, just because of
Speaker 10: the impact he had. His veteran presence is I think
Speaker 10: slightly underrated when you talk about this defense and how
Speaker 10: they've been able to rebound over the course of the
Speaker 10: last few weeks. Yes, we talk about Micah coming back
Speaker 10: from injury. Yes we could talk about guys like Jordan
Speaker 10: Lewis to Marvin Overshow him being these dogs on defense.
Speaker 10: But Eric Hendricks is a leader of that group right now,
Speaker 10: and credit's got to be given to fifty.
Speaker 8: I think he's done a really good job so far.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I tell you what, another Division game and another
Speaker 7: elevation we're playing. Well was Mazzie Smith, you know, and
Speaker 7: so you have to if he could just keep doing that,
Speaker 7: you know, that's all they need to ask from him
Speaker 7: right now. Positive games, positive reinforcement. Let him get to
Speaker 7: the next one, and you know, hopefully he can he
Speaker 7: can find a way to be a bit of a
Speaker 7: force up front for you.
Speaker 12: Yeah, again, you got to be aware of who the
Speaker 12: last two opponents have been. But overall, I think the defense,
Speaker 12: they're starting to play faster and not being afraid to
Speaker 12: tackle and go for it. And I think it's when
Speaker 12: the linebackers have a good game, more often than not,
Speaker 12: the rest of your defense had a good game, So
Speaker 12: it's key. It's the linebacker group is such a key
Speaker 12: position for this defense. Obviously the pass rush there is
Speaker 12: important too, but the way that Zimmer is starting to
Speaker 12: manage this defense, you're starting to see some improvement. And
Speaker 12: I wish we could get a moment where we have
Speaker 12: all the players healthy and they're all your starters to
Speaker 12: actually get a good look of what this defense could
Speaker 12: have been, because now I'm still wondering. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 12: do we want Zimmer back or not? And it's hard
Speaker 12: to judge when you've had so many defensive players, starters,
Speaker 12: key players out of the game due to injuries. So
Speaker 12: I don't know how you truly get a chance to
Speaker 12: judge what Zimmer has started to do or being able
Speaker 12: or not able to do this season so far.
Speaker 10: That's really by Barbara asked me the same question this morning.
Speaker 10: He's like, Zimmer back next year. I was like, that's
Speaker 10: going to be a really fun conversation.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you this January.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, And I think in January that the conversation.
Speaker 6: If things keep going the way they're going, there's going
Speaker 6: to be an interesting conversation about Mike McCarthy as well.
Speaker 3: I know no one wants to hear.
Speaker 6: That, but I just thinking about how we've seen Jerry
Speaker 6: do things in the past. I think because of his
Speaker 6: level of optimism, if this thing keeps going to where
Speaker 6: they crack up some wins and they make this thing
Speaker 6: really interesting down the stretch, whether they get into the
Speaker 6: playoffs or not, Let's say that going from where they
Speaker 6: came from, Let's say they end up nine to eight
Speaker 6: and they only drop one game here before the end
Speaker 6: of the season, They're not going to be in the
Speaker 6: playoffs probably, But I think that does give Jerry something
Speaker 6: to think about, and I wonder if he's like, you know, this.
Speaker 3: Year we were racked.
Speaker 6: There are a lot of reasons why if you want
Speaker 6: to convince yourself that this is not about coaching, that
Speaker 6: this is about a lot of other things.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of the things you can point to.
Speaker 6: So I just think there's gonna be some very interesting
Speaker 6: conversations in January if this thing keeps continuing down this track, if.
Speaker 10: That were to happen, if McCarthy comes back, I see
Speaker 10: a reality where it's a two year deal. It doesn't
Speaker 10: want to be a one year deal. I don't think
Speaker 10: McCarthy wants to be on an expiring nor should it be.
Speaker 10: I don't think nor should it be. He doesn't want
Speaker 10: to answer the questions about expiring contracts anymore, and I
Speaker 10: don't think he should either. But it gives everybody one
Speaker 10: year to figure figure it out. And if McCarthy is
Speaker 10: is right for the long term future, for the rest
Speaker 10: of Dak's time in Dallas, because that's a that's immediately
Speaker 10: what you're going to be looking at when you're talking
Speaker 10: about the offense side of the ball. I don't see
Speaker 10: a reality right now though, where McCarthy is back without
Speaker 10: a different play caller.
Speaker 7: See that's what I'm saying that I could see that.
Speaker 8: I will give you a difference.
Speaker 7: I will consider giving you an extension if you change
Speaker 7: who is the primary and I like him, yeah, and
Speaker 7: if it's if it's shoddy or you know, going out
Speaker 7: and get one of these guys that are gonna get
Speaker 7: let go, or you steal somebody from somebody else. If
Speaker 7: we don't come to that agreement, then I'm gonna have
Speaker 7: to let you go. That's that's that's, that's my ultimatum
Speaker 7: to you. You're either gonna change the play caller and
Speaker 7: keep your job or you're not gonna do that, and
Speaker 7: you're gonna be looking like and I'll go interview somebody else,
Speaker 7: is what I'll do.
Speaker 6: So because that's the biggest problem right now, the biggest offense,
Speaker 6: you would say, right.
Speaker 7: Without a doubt, without a doubt, you know you, and
Speaker 7: you've got huge money tied up in your offense. Yep,
Speaker 7: you've got to figure You got now four more years
Speaker 7: of Dak Prescott, you know of You better figure that
Speaker 7: one out or that's gonna become real expensive for you
Speaker 7: to to have to deal with. And you better figure
Speaker 7: out something for your wide receiver too, you know, because
Speaker 7: he's gonna need he's gonna.
Speaker 4: Need some help as well.
Speaker 10: The assumption is that you're going to bring in one,
Speaker 10: maybe two backs this offseason as well. You want to
Speaker 10: be able to maximize what they can bring to the
Speaker 10: offense as young guys, you would you would assume. So yeah,
Speaker 10: it's that's another really fascinating conversation. This coaching staff. I
Speaker 10: don't think is as slam dunk like out of here,
Speaker 10: and I think as everyone thinks there is, can I
Speaker 10: just don't. I don't believe that. I really don't.
Speaker 7: I know, I got some questions coming up, but this
Speaker 7: wasn't one of my questions. So do you think Mike
Speaker 7: McCarthy wants to be back?
Speaker 4: Yes, is there a side of him that he knows
Speaker 4: the drill?
Speaker 7: But is he okay with the drill?
Speaker 8: I don't think he likes the media to be one.
Speaker 2: I don't think he is everyone.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's specifically the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: You don't think the Cowboys media exactly.
Speaker 10: What the what the national spotlight brings from this building.
Speaker 10: I don't think he's a different green Bay is a
Speaker 10: lot different. But last time I was in Green Bay
Speaker 10: was ninety five. But yeah, it's it's not.
Speaker 6: Even from a national because I think the one of
Speaker 6: theranchises that gets a lot of national attemptions.
Speaker 4: No, no, they they're very they're very nice to those guys.
Speaker 8: Ever time, not that we're mean.
Speaker 3: I've never been here, you know this, I don't know.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's not that.
Speaker 7: I don't think that we're mean, But but I think
Speaker 7: it's the national media.
Speaker 8: Everything scrutinized around here, like green Bay three. Green Bay
Speaker 8: Tours are not getting an article on ESPN.
Speaker 10: That's all due respect to ESPN, but Green Bay Tours
Speaker 10: are not getting coverage like that. Everything is scrutinized in
Speaker 10: this building, from the way you breathe, the way you walk,
Speaker 10: to the way you talk. I don't think McCarthy is
Speaker 10: the biggest fan of that, and I don't think anybody
Speaker 10: in their right mind would be. Some people learn to
Speaker 10: live with it a little bit better than others. I
Speaker 10: think you could look at some coaches in the past,
Speaker 10: or some quarterbacks in the past that live with it
Speaker 10: a little bit better than others. I think Dak Prescott's
Speaker 10: a good example of that. He just takes it and
Speaker 10: moves on. I think he doesn't like that aspect of it,
Speaker 10: but I think he likes the aspect of being the
Speaker 10: head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 8: I'm firm in my belief in that.
Speaker 6: And my other thought is, I don't know if let's
Speaker 6: say the Cowboys move on, I'm not sure that next
Speaker 6: year another team's gonna be like, yeah, might come on
Speaker 6: over be our head coach. So if he wants to
Speaker 6: be a head coach, maybe his best option for next
Speaker 6: year is to be here right now. That does I
Speaker 6: mean in a future couple of years down the road,
Speaker 6: maybe another team's like, yeah, we'll gould and give him
Speaker 6: another shot. But that's hard when you start talking about
Speaker 6: getting that third shot. Yeah, it gets to slim Pickens
Speaker 6: to give you that third shot.
Speaker 11: Good.
Speaker 12: I think he's been good as a head coach. I
Speaker 12: agree now that the play color is where it comes.
Speaker 12: I mean it was basically his decision or I don't know.
Speaker 12: I wasn't in there, but Kellen Moore parted ways with
Speaker 12: the Cowboys, he took over. He was the one wanting
Speaker 12: to call the plays.
Speaker 11: Last year.
Speaker 12: I think you were still seeing the effects of what
Speaker 12: Kellen Moore have put together, and then this year it's
Speaker 12: all being you and you haven't. I mean, I think
Speaker 12: it's it's very difficult for you to defend the play
Speaker 12: callers thing when you don't change it. I mean we've
Speaker 12: seen last week, we saw a little bit, but other
Speaker 12: than that, I mean, it's been a whole season. Season
Speaker 12: is about to be over, and you just do the
Speaker 12: same thing over and over and over. You get to
Speaker 12: watch film, you get everybody in there, and those are
Speaker 12: your calls that you're making. So play caller, absolutely, But
Speaker 12: as a head coach, I think overall he has been
Speaker 12: pretty good, and I think other teams can see that.
Speaker 11: If it was to come down.
Speaker 6: Yes, but that's also the thing. I think the head
Speaker 6: coach is responsible for it all. So if he makes
Speaker 6: the decision that he's going to be the play caller
Speaker 6: and he's the one that's calling the plays and the
Speaker 6: offense isn't what it should be, then guess what that's
Speaker 6: also being evaluated by all the other teams. And I
Speaker 6: agree with you, I think Mike McCarthy. And that's another
Speaker 6: reason why I don't think it's a slam dunk that
Speaker 6: he's gone, is because you look at this three, twelve
Speaker 6: and eleven, see twelve and five seasons and then whatever
Speaker 6: happens this year. If they get on a run and
Speaker 6: they end up over five hundred. Let's say they end
Speaker 6: up over five hundred. I think that factor's in and
Speaker 6: I think that when you do that, you look at
Speaker 6: the whole resume.
Speaker 2: It says this is a good coach. Now are there problems.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, there's some things they're gonna have to fix, but
Speaker 6: it's a good coach. And so I do think that's
Speaker 6: st impetus. Why the Cowboys make I don't know if
Speaker 6: that makes him immediately somebody the other teams are like, oh,
Speaker 6: we gotta go get him. He just became available. We
Speaker 6: got to go get him. I don't know if that's
Speaker 6: necessarily the case.
Speaker 10: I would see a team like Jacksonville hopping on that opportunity. Absolutely,
Speaker 10: And Miken mentioned I don't remember when this was, it
Speaker 10: was sometime in the last few weeks about how that
Speaker 10: season off in twenty nineteen just killed him, like he's he.
Speaker 8: Couldn't take it.
Speaker 3: Coaches want to coach.
Speaker 7: Coach just want to coach, and the family wants to
Speaker 7: get you out of the house. So like, what are
Speaker 7: you doing or hanging around?
Speaker 3: My god, let's whim that's all.
Speaker 4: No, it's true, it's like, what are you still doing
Speaker 4: around at all?
Speaker 10: I'll tell you what that's second July. I'm like, how
Speaker 10: many weeks until camp? But Mike McCarthy will be a
Speaker 10: head coach in the NFL somewhere, if it's here.
Speaker 8: If it's somewhere, you.
Speaker 2: Think next year, no matter what I think.
Speaker 7: So yeah, you know, if you think about guys like
Speaker 7: this like Carolina, Dave Canalis and what they did in Atlanta,
Speaker 7: and you know, I mean, Mike McCarthy is a more
Speaker 7: established coach at least. I mean, hell, if I was
Speaker 7: the damn Giants, I would in if they I would
Speaker 7: interview him there. If I was the Giants, you know,
Speaker 7: established guy knows.
Speaker 8: The division in New Orleans, He's been there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, New Orleans.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's there's places that he can interview and whoever
Speaker 7: they bring in, he's probably got.
Speaker 4: Way more skins on the way. All amber'st right.
Speaker 7: The biggest problem with Mike McCarthy is not it's not
Speaker 7: getting his team to Sunday, it's what happens on Sunday
Speaker 7: with him in a primary position. That's that's that's the disconnect, right.
Speaker 6: Well, the other part to it, too, for from Mike's perspective,
Speaker 6: going back to your original question, is is that place
Speaker 6: he's going they do they have a quarterback, because, as
Speaker 6: we know with all coaches like that makes it go
Speaker 6: up a notch. If you already got a quarterback in place,
Speaker 6: especially an established quarterback, you know you can win well.
Speaker 12: When you're looking for a job, you can't get to
Speaker 12: peaky of a home what you're offering.
Speaker 6: Maybe, but that's also I don't know if that necessarily
Speaker 6: for somebody like him that's as established as he is,
Speaker 6: that also knows. I would suspect at this point in
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy's career he has some I would go here,
Speaker 6: I would not go here, and I don't care whether
Speaker 6: it means I'm not coaching. There's certain places I would
Speaker 6: assume a coach.
Speaker 14: Of his tenure bills, he's made enough money, I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 14: not like us.
Speaker 3: This is a different thing, you know. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: the end of the day. I think he's probably I think.
Speaker 6: He's probably got some places that he would be like,
Speaker 6: I can go here or retire.
Speaker 3: I'm not going here.
Speaker 6: Well, I'll just send another year in wait and maybe
Speaker 6: next year something else comes available.
Speaker 7: I remember talking to Seans too long by. You know,
Speaker 7: funny you talk about having an established quarterback though, and
Speaker 7: some of these guys. And I was talking to Sean
Speaker 7: Payton about this when Dak in twenty sixteen. He says, man,
Speaker 7: I admire what's going on in Dallas right now. I
Speaker 7: might you know why, because they have a quarterback that's
Speaker 7: not changing the play every play that I call in,
Speaker 7: He goes. I love Drew Brees, he goes, But every
Speaker 7: time I send in a play, Drew Brees changing with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he goes.
Speaker 7: Now Sean's in a situation where he's got bo Nicks
Speaker 7: and bo Nick exactly what he tells him, it does
Speaker 7: exactly what, And then bo Nicks is going to figure out, well,
Speaker 7: I don't need Sean Payton call him plays. I could
Speaker 7: change these plays out. So sometimes coaches are okay with
Speaker 7: the young guy if they're okay with that because if
Speaker 7: they got to go, if they got a good one,
Speaker 7: and because the young guy is not going to change
Speaker 7: every play that they send in, you know.
Speaker 4: So that's something.
Speaker 8: So I think Jacksonville would be a great fit if
Speaker 8: he were to end up in more than Chicago, somewhere else.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I don't think Chicago.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody talks about Ben Johnson at Chicago.
Speaker 7: It doesn't I don't think Chicago is going to pay
Speaker 7: a coach.
Speaker 4: I really don't. Look.
Speaker 6: The more the more I think about it, the more
Speaker 6: I think if if, if everything keeps going as it's going,
Speaker 6: and they are competitive and get some more wins, I
Speaker 6: just I don't know if they're gonna pull the trigger.
Speaker 6: I think he's going to be here, and I think
Speaker 6: maybe he should be here.
Speaker 7: Is it going to be the uncomfortable Jason Garrett standing
Speaker 7: around for a week, you know, in his office and nobody.
Speaker 4: Knows what's going. Who knows this guy's door closed and
Speaker 4: nobody's like.
Speaker 6: What I will tell you is it does give us
Speaker 6: some good fodder for those weeks, and we're going to
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Speaker 7: Thank you very much. Nobody hit the table. My microphone
Speaker 7: might just go down quickly. Okay, we don't need that happen.
Speaker 3: That'll be hilarious, Derek.
Speaker 7: Josh Butler's injury is really a bad loss for this defense.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is, mainly because at this point in the season.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 6: I want my young guys playing so that I can
Speaker 6: see what I have going into the offseason to prepare
Speaker 6: for what I should be doing next year.
Speaker 3: So, yes, I think it was a big loss.
Speaker 8: Nick, So it wasn't a question, just a statement.
Speaker 7: No, I made a Josh Butler.
Speaker 8: Josh, it's like a true false Okay, I'm sorry. It
Speaker 8: just kind of threw me off. I was like, did
Speaker 8: he cut him off?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 10: I agree on it's seeing him, especially go down with
Speaker 10: an ACL that's not something you recover from in time
Speaker 10: for even training camp next year. Best case scenario, we
Speaker 10: saw Terrence Steel do it with an injury around this
Speaker 10: time of the season, but that's it's a rare case
Speaker 10: where you can see a guy recover that quick. So
Speaker 10: I mean his story and getting all the way to
Speaker 10: the NFL and finally getting a starting opportunity and then
Speaker 10: having it in just like that.
Speaker 8: It's not only tough for the kid, but I think
Speaker 8: it's tough for UH.
Speaker 10: I think it's tough for this team too, trying to
Speaker 10: figure out their corner depth because this is a season
Speaker 10: where they are truly exploring what that death looks like
Speaker 10: in the secondary and I think that they found a
Speaker 10: piece in Josh Butler that they can keep around for
Speaker 10: the future in dire situations like this. But you know
Speaker 10: now that they have to factor in him coming back
Speaker 10: from an ACL and that's tough to do.
Speaker 8: It's really tough to do.
Speaker 7: And Bart Josh Butler's injury is really bad loss for
Speaker 7: this Cowboys defense.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, I mean everything that they said I agree with.
Speaker 12: And also terrible timing that it happened during a time
Speaker 12: where people were started starting to learn his name and
Speaker 12: hear about this guy that you often didn't hear much from,
Speaker 12: and he was doing a good job taking advantage of
Speaker 12: that opportunity that came up. And it's just it's unfortunate.
Speaker 12: But again, looking at a team that is going to
Speaker 12: have to rely on so much young talent moving forward
Speaker 12: and next year, it sucks for not only him, but
Speaker 12: also what the team has right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I felt like, man, when he started to play,
Speaker 7: he was different from the guys they put out there
Speaker 7: that you know, the Booths and the other I mean
Speaker 7: even mquam a little bit.
Speaker 4: How competitive he was, his ability to cover, to.
Speaker 7: Play off, to drive on a ball, to tackle he
Speaker 7: got picked.
Speaker 4: On, he didn't waiver in any way.
Speaker 7: And this is a bad loss because you know, if
Speaker 7: you're like you say, it takes away a piece that
Speaker 7: you could really rely on if you wanted to. You know,
Speaker 7: if you if you had Digs and Bland and Lewis,
Speaker 7: if you want to play dime, you could throw him
Speaker 7: out there. Then you know, if you want to give
Speaker 7: Bland a little break, you could have put him out there.
Speaker 7: So yeah, this is this is really to me a
Speaker 7: really really bad loss.
Speaker 10: There's not a bright side to this. But if you're
Speaker 10: looking for a bright side from the team perspective, Ammanni
Speaker 10: or Warrier is he can start his practice window as
Speaker 10: early as tomorrow thinking that might be the next week
Speaker 10: type situation. A.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I kind of felt like Butler was better
Speaker 4: than him.
Speaker 10: Though, really I feel like they were a little bit
Speaker 10: neck and neck. I would have given the edge to
Speaker 10: Oral warreate, but I respect that opinion.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you just like saying the name, that's what you like.
Speaker 7: I'll go I'll stay with you on this one.
Speaker 4: Right. Do you feel like the offense has missed Jake.
Speaker 8: Ferguson all season?
Speaker 10: I feel like they have all season, and I expected
Speaker 10: more from Jake Ferguson this year, I really did, and
Speaker 10: I don't know how much that. I don't know how
Speaker 10: much that knee injury he suffered in Week one has
Speaker 10: affected him throughout the year, and I don't want to
Speaker 10: speculate on that, but it is something I point to
Speaker 10: because I expected him to take another step forward, just
Speaker 10: as he did going into year two.
Speaker 8: Last year.
Speaker 10: You know, I expected him to be in the top
Speaker 10: five as far as tight ends, you know, without a question.
Speaker 10: And it's hard for me to say that even before
Speaker 10: he dealt with this concussion. This this offense is predicated
Speaker 10: around finding the safety net in the tight end across
Speaker 10: the middle of the field. I mean, we were talking
Speaker 10: about last year with you know, those those seam routes
Speaker 10: that Dak Prescott would find to Jake Ferguson, we didn't
Speaker 10: really see those before either of them got hurt. So
Speaker 10: I expect a little bit more from him overall coming
Speaker 10: into this year.
Speaker 12: Hey, g Yeah, when you post that question, in my head,
Speaker 12: I was like missed, what like if we were I mean,
Speaker 12: no offense to him, but hey, I want to say,
Speaker 12: I mean, but what I have to say along with
Speaker 12: that is that I feel like the offense in general,
Speaker 12: like nobody, nobody has been standing out shining this season.
Speaker 12: So I'm not taking a job at him, but more
Speaker 12: so because we've seen him the year prior. We've seen
Speaker 12: what he can be, We've seen what he can do.
Speaker 12: So I go back to Mike McCarthy and the way
Speaker 12: he's managed this offense and not being able to construct
Speaker 12: the right place that caters to guys like that. So
Speaker 12: I feel like more so than his ability of bringing
Speaker 12: what he can bring. Yes, that has taken a step down,
Speaker 12: but it's a fact. It's a it's a result of
Speaker 12: the plays that are being called and him not being
Speaker 12: able to bring more to the table with the right
Speaker 12: play calling.
Speaker 7: Derek have they Do you feel like this offense has
Speaker 7: missed Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 6: Now I'm gonna let y'all keep slander and Jake Ferguson
Speaker 6: because I'm looking at his record as his stats this year,
Speaker 6: and first of all, let me just say, there is
Speaker 6: not a tight end on this team, maybe even a
Speaker 6: receiver on this team that's better with the ball in
Speaker 6: his hands after the catch, other than maybe of a
Speaker 6: Cavante turpen On. A few times they decide to get
Speaker 6: him the ball.
Speaker 3: He is a guy.
Speaker 6: Every time we see him get the ball, catch a pass,
Speaker 6: he rarely goes down with the first shit. He usually
Speaker 6: makes a move and he's off.
Speaker 3: He's gonna get you.
Speaker 6: Three, four, five, six more yards with that catch. But
Speaker 6: you look at his numbers. I'm gonna go back to
Speaker 6: game was against Baltimore eleven targets, six catches, ninety five
Speaker 6: yards against the Giants seven catches, seven targets, forty nine yards.
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh seven targets, six catches seventy yards. San Francisco eight targets,
Speaker 6: six catches twenty three yards, Atlanta ten targets, seven catches,
Speaker 6: seventy one yards. This guy has been productive for this team.
Speaker 6: He is not the top option. As the second option,
Speaker 6: he has been productive for this team. So, yes, he
Speaker 6: hasn't been I don't think our expectations probably were up
Speaker 6: because of how good he was last year.
Speaker 3: We were expecting can he get up to Kelsey level?
Speaker 3: Can you get up to that level of the elite
Speaker 3: tight ends of the league.
Speaker 6: Okay, maybe he didn't get there, but he is still
Speaker 6: a value valued part of this offense. And not having
Speaker 6: him there is something that you're lacking in explosiveness from
Speaker 6: the tight end position.
Speaker 10: I agree with you there, and I think all that's valid.
Speaker 10: I think back to the conversations we had about Jake
Speaker 10: Ferguson at training camp. We're like, okay, so ceedee, Lamb's
Speaker 10: not here. Who does this benefit? And you look at
Speaker 10: a guy like Jake Ferguson is like, man, he could
Speaker 10: really take a step forward even with this extra time
Speaker 10: with Dak here at camp. This is a guy where
Speaker 10: you could look at as a surefire pro bowler, and
Speaker 10: I just don't think he's played up to that level
Speaker 10: this year. It's been very on par with what he
Speaker 10: did last year, which again was not a bad pace.
Speaker 10: I believe he was averaging Let's see, he was averaging
Speaker 10: forty four point eight yards per game last year. This
Speaker 10: year that paces at forty one yards. So it's right,
Speaker 10: it's right around the same stratosphere. But I think I
Speaker 10: just expected him to take a little bit at four.
Speaker 10: But if you're talking about the last two weeks specifically,
Speaker 10: I like what Schoonmaker has done, but I think Ferguson
Speaker 10: is a better receiving tight end. At the end of
Speaker 10: the day, I would love to see what this offense
Speaker 10: looks like they can maximize both of those guys in
Speaker 10: the receiving game in this At the same time.
Speaker 7: Hey Ge need to see more of Rico Daddle or
Speaker 7: Cavante Turpinlie.
Speaker 8: Davis can be an answer, Malik Davis.
Speaker 4: Need to see more.
Speaker 11: How long are football games?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 12: You have plenty of time to use both of them
Speaker 12: in a single game.
Speaker 7: You need to see more of pick one Doll.
Speaker 12: I've seen, I've seen. I feel more comfortable with Turpin.
Speaker 4: You won that Commander's game for you.
Speaker 12: Basically, I feel like I know what I have in Turpin.
Speaker 12: Sure with Dal, I'm still waiting. I haven't seen enough
Speaker 12: and I'm still on the twelve.
Speaker 4: Wasn't it good enough for you last week?
Speaker 11: Give me more of that? Okay, give me more again.
Speaker 12: With the way that this offense has been playing, if
Speaker 12: you're actually hoping to get a chance at something, you're
Speaker 12: gonna have to have some sort of running game, and
Speaker 12: the best guy to give you that would be Rico.
Speaker 12: I agree with Nick. I would love to see Davis
Speaker 12: at some point, but I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 12: I've seen what he's done in the past. I've seen
Speaker 12: that even when was it at games where the game
Speaker 12: was kind of seiling and then you got Cooper rush in,
Speaker 12: and then they brought him in. He's done some plays,
Speaker 12: but again, give me Rico. The running back position is
Speaker 12: a big question mark for next year. So I want
Speaker 12: to see more of him in a consistent basis there.
Speaker 6: I don't need to see more than what I saw
Speaker 6: the last two weeks. I don't think they need more.
Speaker 6: Easily he had he had twenty five touches last week.
Speaker 6: I don't he doesn't need the ball more than twenty
Speaker 6: five touches in a game.
Speaker 11: I think more, I mean repeat, what was.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is you give me what you gave
Speaker 6: me last week. I don't need to see more. I
Speaker 6: need to see more kavant a deterpin. They're not giving
Speaker 6: him enough opportunities with the balls and the ball in
Speaker 6: his hands, okay, And so for me, I'm like, for
Speaker 6: the number of times that he has turned in big
Speaker 6: plays for this team, it seems to me like you
Speaker 6: should be finding more opportunities to get the ball in
Speaker 6: his hands and see what he can do. And so
Speaker 6: I want to see more opportunities for him. I think
Speaker 6: the opportunity if they just keep it consistent with what
Speaker 6: they did with Rico the last two weeks. I'm good
Speaker 6: with that he's getting twenty plus touches. That's perfect for Rico.
Speaker 10: For me, yeah, I'm with you there. I feel like
Speaker 10: I do know what I have in Rico, doubt l.
Speaker 10: I don't feel like I know what I have in
Speaker 10: Cavante Turpin as far as what he can bring to
Speaker 10: the offense. I feel like they are only starting to,
Speaker 10: you know, find the tip of the iceberg as to
Speaker 10: what Turpin can provide. I worry about his size, Yes,
Speaker 10: you know, how much really can you realistically get him
Speaker 10: involved in the offense. But you got five games to
Speaker 10: figure that out. I say, try as many things as
Speaker 10: possible with him. You're starting to see his run after catchability,
Speaker 10: You're starting to see his trust in the red zone.
Speaker 10: I think there's a lot of situations where you can
Speaker 10: throw Cavante Turpin in and see if he succeeds, and
Speaker 10: if he doesn't, then at least you know you.
Speaker 4: Have time for one more.
Speaker 7: Yeah, go Derek, Bigger surprise Karl Lawson or Brock Kauffman.
Speaker 6: Carl Lawson mainly because I saw shades of this with
Speaker 6: Brock Kaufman in the past where he's flashed for me
Speaker 6: and I've been like, Okay, that's pretty good. Pretty good rep,
Speaker 6: pretty good rep. So I've been seeing that a little
Speaker 6: bit from him. I don't know that I've seen enough
Speaker 6: this year to make me think Brock Kauflin is so
Speaker 6: much better than I thought he was. I think what
Speaker 6: we've seen is still just guy's flashes, and he's been
Speaker 6: pretty good. Let's not over overdo it. He's been pretty good.
Speaker 6: So Carl Lawson, I had no expectations for him what
Speaker 6: I saw at training camp when he first arrived in Dallas,
Speaker 6: I had very low expectations. I was like, I don't
Speaker 6: know what they're going to really get out of this guy.
Speaker 6: But I think as the season has gone on and
Speaker 6: you've seen him kind of get his legs and figure
Speaker 6: this thing out, I think you're starting to see he's
Speaker 6: a guy that, certainly from a past rush standpoint, can
Speaker 6: give you a little something there. I don't know if
Speaker 6: he's somebody keep around beyond this year. I think he
Speaker 6: was a guy you needed because you were so low,
Speaker 6: but he's given you enough for what you need it
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 10: I think Nick I knew brought kaffin would stand on
Speaker 10: business come on once. I was a little disappointed he
Speaker 10: didn't win that starting job for the center position. I
Speaker 10: felt like he had earned that spot. But I understand
Speaker 10: why the team did that, and I understand why. You know,
Speaker 10: Cooper BB was a decision, and I think the long
Speaker 10: term projection of that position is better with Cooper BB
Speaker 10: in the middle, but brock Hoffman getting his opportunity at
Speaker 10: right guard. I agree with Derek, we saw shades of this.
Speaker 10: I saw shades of this training camp last year. I
Speaker 10: think there were moments you could point back to in
Speaker 10: camp last year where he was bullying some guys around.
Speaker 10: I remember a rep against Jonathan Hanken specifically at camp
Speaker 10: where it made me look down at the roster for
Speaker 10: the first time be like, Okay Hoffman. But Carl Lawson, Yeah,
Speaker 10: I didn't have a lot high expectations for him at all.
Speaker 10: But I the one part where I'll probably disagree with
Speaker 10: you on I think Lawson is worth keeping up bringing
Speaker 10: back for a year or two. I see him as
Speaker 10: kind of that Dante Fowler rotational pass rusher that they
Speaker 10: had in the past with Dan Quinn. Bring him in
Speaker 10: as that rotational guy and let him stick around until
Speaker 10: you know health gives out or ability gives out.
Speaker 8: I think he's earned that.
Speaker 2: Has he been good enough in the run for you
Speaker 2: to do that?
Speaker 10: Probably not, but neither was Dante Fowler in my opinion.
Speaker 10: I bring him in on passing downs and let him
Speaker 10: get an opportunity to just go at the quarterback.
Speaker 8: That's that's all you really need him for.
Speaker 6: In my eyes, I just want Golston back, and I
Speaker 6: want them to have Sam back, and then you got
Speaker 6: Micah and I think from there, Kneeland, I think, I
Speaker 6: to me, I look at those younger guys, and then
Speaker 6: you draft another guy or two, and I think that's
Speaker 6: where you roll.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he necessarily need Lost.
Speaker 6: And and by the way, if you want Lost in
Speaker 6: at some point next season, my guess he may be
Speaker 6: available to you on the on the open market. Right,
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think I could try to go younger there.
Speaker 7: Who's if you can only have one back between Osa
Speaker 7: and the question for.
Speaker 3: Me, I ain gonna, I'm not playing your game.
Speaker 8: Give me Lewis.
Speaker 7: It was yeah, no, no, no, no no, no. I
Speaker 7: I because I know you guys all take Lewis.
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't really because because of age, I wouldn't.
Speaker 6: And by the way, I think right now, okay, Lewis
Speaker 6: is playing better than Olsa, and Olsa is playing great.
Speaker 11: But who you're talking about.
Speaker 8: Also also was young by about four or five years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think from that standpoint, I go with the youngest.
Speaker 7: Pretty so you would take Lewis though, right, I.
Speaker 10: Would take Lewis. Lewis is twenty nine, Osa's twenty six.
Speaker 10: Just just for reference, I would take I would take
Speaker 10: Lewis because what's harder.
Speaker 3: To replace a nickel corner or a three tech? Yeah?
Speaker 8: A three tech.
Speaker 7: You're right, You're right about this draft.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could place.
Speaker 10: I'll say, because I was thinking about this in the
Speaker 10: car this morning, because I expected this to come up,
Speaker 10: and I if Lewis starts to decline, because I think
Speaker 10: that's kind of the expectation around the age conversation, He's.
Speaker 4: Kind of got better.
Speaker 2: He has, That's the crazy part about it. He's actually
Speaker 2: gotten better.
Speaker 4: I think NJM. Button.
Speaker 10: I see here and I see Lewis here, and I
Speaker 10: don't feel like this meets for another couple of seasons.
Speaker 10: I feel like you can bring Lewis back for a
Speaker 10: couple of years cheap deal, and you.
Speaker 2: Can maybe he's worked on one, then you're.
Speaker 10: Right because he signed to a much cheaper deal than
Speaker 10: I expected him to this past offseason.
Speaker 8: He was going to get more money than.
Speaker 6: But he's played his butt off this year and I
Speaker 6: think there's gonna be some suitors out there for him
Speaker 6: this offseason.
Speaker 7: I guess you can't watch the tape and not see
Speaker 7: that he was one of the best defensive players on
Speaker 7: a team that struggled.
Speaker 8: And the numbers don't lie either. He's been phenomenal.
Speaker 6: If it's equal money him and Osa equal money, I'm
Speaker 6: still man.
Speaker 10: Now I'm thinking about position value. You have more depth
Speaker 10: at corner. It's the smarter decision to go with Osa there,
Speaker 10: it is. But if we're talking player for player in
Speaker 10: a vacuum, I would take Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 12: I love them both completely to underside right. The only
Speaker 12: thing that comes to mind is like injuries, there's one
Speaker 12: guy that has dealt with more injuries throughout his career
Speaker 12: than the other, and that's Jordan. He's dealt with and
Speaker 12: he always overcomes them and comes back, and.
Speaker 11: He he survived the what was his name?
Speaker 12: Uh, Oh my god, defensive coordinator that we had here. No,
Speaker 12: he survived well, yeah.
Speaker 4: Because.
Speaker 12: I mean the fact that he made it through that
Speaker 12: period was impressive because he was.
Speaker 2: He was the prototy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So everything he's done has been completely impressive.
Speaker 11: But I think that you could potentially find a way to.
Speaker 12: Keep him both, not in a cheap deal, but like
Speaker 12: a reasonable deal where it makes sense for both of them.
Speaker 12: He's just he's a chill dude, chill guy.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he's just a chill guy, both of them.
Speaker 7: Have you seen Maxwell Harrison from Okay, there's your nickel
Speaker 7: corner right there.
Speaker 3: All right, we got it, carry on a right.
Speaker 12: I love how you guys always have these ideas, like
Speaker 12: the draft never goes.
Speaker 11: You expect it.
Speaker 8: It's your round. You always got to be on your toes.
Speaker 3: They're always guys though, you can always find That's.
Speaker 7: What I'm saying about running backs.
Speaker 4: Oh no, we got a couple for you too.
Speaker 6: There there's always guys. Now, the question is can you
Speaker 6: choose the right ones?
Speaker 2: There's always guys. Can you choose the right ones?
Speaker 6: Because it's not necessarily did you get the second round
Speaker 6: or did you get the fourth round? And sometimes the
Speaker 6: fourth round is better than the second round, so it's
Speaker 6: can you choose the right one.
Speaker 3: But there's always guys.
Speaker 7: Say they started listening to us about rush and overshown.
Speaker 7: We always said that, like five weeks ago, like our
Speaker 7: poor Man's Micah Parsons, we said that.
Speaker 6: They really should just schedule a weekly sit down with
Speaker 6: us and we can give them all the answers and
Speaker 6: then they can go and just do it.
Speaker 4: Tips.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tips, all right, we're gonna wrap this thing because
Speaker 6: it's we're timed. I don't know if we can do
Speaker 6: a commercial break and we'll be over time, so we're
Speaker 6: just gonna call it.
Speaker 4: A T and T.
Speaker 11: A T and T they connect everything.
Speaker 2: There you go, thank you, We appreciate you, guys, Jonas.
Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 6: We'll start getting ready for cowboys next game. They'll play
Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Bingals on Monday night. Brian will talk about
Speaker 6: that offense, A very very good offic that's what it is.
Speaker 6: We will talk about that tomorrow for Nick Kris. Brian
Speaker 6: brought us an Ambergarci. I'm Derek and this has been
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