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Speaker 1: From my high school team. We have five guys make

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a special Quarantine edition. We got a

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Speaker 1: to another Quarantine edition of All the Smoke with my

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Speaker 1: Classics had our game four on last night against Dallas

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Speaker 1: We got a special guest man, one of the best

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Speaker 1: You had been straight up been one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: own Jason Tatum. Welcome to the show, bro Bro St. Louis.

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Speaker 1: What's up? And I appreciate you. I haven't we Uh

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Speaker 1: we got a chance to interview Bradley Beale earlier today too,

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Speaker 1: the four, Gordon was at the three, JB was at

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Speaker 1: the two, and Kyle was at the one. So I

428
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: kind of been in that same position, you know since

429
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,239
Speaker 1: I've been in the league, and I mean, that's kind

430
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: of where basketball is at now. You got probably one

431
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: big man and then three or four guys all around

432
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: the same MICUs and a changeable one year in college

433
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: you declared for the NBA draft. Was that it was

434
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,239
Speaker 1: that an easy, easy decision. I know you said your

435
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: coaches like, now you gotta go and get this money.

436
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: But that's an easy decision for you? Or was it

437
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: was it highly influenced by coach? It was it was

438
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: like it was an easy decision because it's like, man,

439
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: ever since I was three, I was like I wanted

440
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: to play in the NBA. But then it was like,

441
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 1: once I got the opportunity, I actually thought about it

442
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: for a second, Like, man, I like part of me

443
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: want to come back to Duke and and and try

444
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: to win a national championship because I like, I really

445
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: enjoyed my time to Duke that much, in the relationship

446
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: I built with my teammates and like that that's real.

447
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: So but then you know, then it's like, no, I

448
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: made the best decision for me and my family. And

449
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: at the time I knew that, you know, I was

450
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: about to have a I was expecting expecting the Sun.

451
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: So that was the best decision for myself and my family.

452
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: With the recent change of the game basically with Jalen

453
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: Green and Isaiah Todd jumping uh straight to the D

454
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: League and then you being like me, like, I absolutely

455
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: love my time in U c l A. You said

456
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Speaker 1: you loved your time at Duke. If you were in

457
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Speaker 1: a position to do that, what what what would you do?

458
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: Knowing what you know about college? Would you take the

459
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: money and go to the G League or would you

460
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: go ahead and go to do It's tough because like,

461
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: now knowring would I know? Now? I think I still might.

462
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: I still might have went to do But if I like,

463
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: if you just rewind four years and I'm eighteen coming

464
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 1: out of high school from St. Louis and it's five

465
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, like I'm I'm going right to the G

466
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: League for sure. I mean they gotta I need that.

467
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: But I think they got to change what I think

468
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: I feel like they need to change in college. Um No,

469
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: I think you should be able to make money off

470
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: your likeness, Like if you if you're at a school,

471
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: and like if I was at Duke and I woul

472
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: want to say, like, hey, I want to host the

473
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Speaker 1: autograph session on Saturday, you know, for for three hours

474
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Speaker 1: and a signature, Like, I feel like you should be

475
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Speaker 1: able to do that. M I completely agree. I think

476
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Speaker 1: I think their outdated rules are going to have more

477
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: and more people making that jump, you know what I mean.

478
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: To me, there's there's no other alternative because they're not

479
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: gonna know what we know about college and how dupe

480
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: college is. They can hear it. But then that five

481
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: thousand sounds amazing plus a trainer, plus they're giving you

482
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: money to go back to school if you really want

483
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: to do that, you know what I mean. So that

484
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: ship is hard to pass up. And I like the

485
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: fact that the NBA is can get into their own

486
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: hands now, like let's sweeten this pot and get these

487
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: kids right on them. But I think soon it's gonna

488
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: be you're gonna be able to jump right back to

489
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: the NBA straight out of high school. Anyway, two two

490
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen, the draft comes. Uh, Danny A just playing

491
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Speaker 1: some mind games trades picks able to get you uh

492
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Speaker 1: in the third spot. Uh. This is where Fluke Marquet

493
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: went first, Zoe went second, You went third. I think

494
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell went thirteen whatever. Particularly, do you remember about

495
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: Draft day in in in that rookie experience. Uh yeah,

496
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: he definitely played some mind games for sure. Um because

497
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: it was like five, five days before the draft, because

498
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Speaker 1: I remember Boston had the number one pick, and you know,

499
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Speaker 1: everybody it was kind of like known, like the media

500
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: was saying like Marquelle was going number one and Alonzo

501
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 1: was in l A. So everybody knew Alonso was going

502
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Speaker 1: to the Like I didn't even I didn't even work

503
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: out for the Lakers because I just knew me and

504
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: my agent was like, it's probably it's gonna be a

505
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: waste of time, like everybody, no lines are going to them.

506
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: But two. So at the time, Philly was three and

507
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns was four. So Philly, Phoenix, and Boston they came.

508
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: I was in l A working out, so they came

509
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Speaker 1: to watch me work out, and I remember, you know,

510
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: I sat down and talked to him, and after I

511
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: met with him, all I remember I was like, I

512
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: think I'm going to Philly, like they had the third pick.

513
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, I had a good workout and I talked

514
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: to Brett Brown and everything was cool. So I thought

515
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: I was going to Philly. But then I remember I

516
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: went to Phoenix. This was a week before the draft.

517
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: I went to Phoenix just to meet with Earl Watson

518
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: and talk to the to the GM and see the facility.

519
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: I didn't work out. I just wanted to go meet

520
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: with everybody. Remember girl, Yeah, shout out Earls my god.

521
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: Like I went out to I went to dinner with

522
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Speaker 1: him the next day. I remember he picked me up.

523
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: He had a white g wagon. He drove me around

524
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Speaker 1: and showed me, like all the houses where the players

525
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: live at. I'm like, they just dope out there, ain't it.

526
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: Phoenix is beautiful. The girl was my college girls, my

527
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: point guard A C. L A. Yeah. I remember, I've

528
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: called my I called my family, my mom. Like, I'm like, yo,

529
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: I think I want to go to Phoenix. Like you.

530
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: He's like you you come up, you come to Phoenix,

531
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: you know you and the book Like he's like to

532
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: light skin killers. I'm gonna let you all walk out.

533
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I'm sitting in the g I'm sitting

534
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: in a car like, man, this sounds good. Like yeah,

535
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Speaker 1: Like I think I want to come here. So I

536
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: remember I get back to my hotel. I'm about to

537
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: fly back home for like two days ago before I

538
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: go to New York and I'm sitting and my agent

539
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: called me. He like Danny Danny Age called and said

540
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna trade their pick. They're gonna go to three

541
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: and they want you to come to Boston and the

542
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: next day to work out. I'm like, no, I don't

543
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: want to go to Boston. Like I'm like, I like

544
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: it out in Phoenix, Like it's cool, the weather knights,

545
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: I get a big house, I get a pool. My

546
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: mom's gonna be all right. He's like, he's like brass

547
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Stevens a great young coach and they got a great history.

548
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not trying to hear that, like I

549
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: want to go to Phoenix. So then he like my

550
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: agents like just think about it. And then I'm so

551
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: we hang up. I'm like, I'm not going to this

552
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: workout like I'm cool. So then Coach Kay called me.

553
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: Coach Kay called me right after my my agent did.

554
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: He like, Jason, you know, the Celtics call, they want

555
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: you to come work out. You know, I think Brass

556
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: Steves is a great coach, and you know, it's a

557
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: great place to be. You'll learn a lot something like, uh,

558
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: I'm like all right, so I go. So I remember

559
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: that I flew to St. Louis that night. The next

560
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: day I flew to Boston for another workout in Boston.

561
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: So that was like, this is like three days before

562
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: the draft. I took the train from Boston to the

563
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: draft because I had I had a sinus infection, so

564
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: like the air pressure like made me sick. So I

565
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: took the took the train to the draft. And when

566
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't know where I was going, Like

567
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: I figured it made Boston or Phoenix, and uh, you

568
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: know when I finally heard my name called, I was

569
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: it was like it was it was about far the

570
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: best day of my life because it's like that's what

571
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: I've been working for for sixteen years. But it was

572
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: a part of me that didn't really want to go

573
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: to Boston because they just was the number one team

574
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: in the East. They had Isaiah Thomas out Orford Smart, JB.

575
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: Jay Crowder. I was like, I mean, I'm not gonna

576
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: play like I'm trying to. I'm trying to get buckets.

577
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean, everything worked out. It was the best decisions.

578
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: So it worked out. You thought you thought long and hard,

579
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: about being that second LFE skin killer out there in

580
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: Scott's Dale. Huh that have been crazy him and could

581
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: you imagine him and book? Oh wait, that would have

582
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: been nasty. So you're rookie Phoenix. Yeah, you're rookie again.

583
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: A man, shout out my man, Earl Watson. Man, he

584
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: got he got done dirty out there. But it's it's

585
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: it's refreshing here and all the players speak about it

586
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: because players really fucked with him, just the owners of

587
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: clown and you know management is sucked up. But I'm

588
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: glad to hear that the Earl had convinced you that

589
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: you wanted to be in Phoenix. That's what's up. Uh

590
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: your rookie debut. You play against Lebron, come out and

591
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: drop a double double. Tell me what that was like. Man,

592
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: I ain't getting no sleep the night before the game. Uh,

593
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: because it was Kyrie. It was co first game coming

594
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: back to Cleveland. You know, we got a new team,

595
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: and you know I saw this hype. So I mean

596
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: we I don't think I'm nervous, Like we're going through

597
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: warm ups. We went on the court. The cast still

598
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: ain't running the court. Yes, So I'm like, all right,

599
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm laying the ball up, playing cool, and

600
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: then I remember the Calves run on the floor and

601
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: then Lebron was the last person in warm up, and

602
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: when he ran on the court, he ran past me.

603
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I said, damn, I just start getting nervous. I started

604
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: shaking my first like my first, the first shot I

605
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: ever took in the game. I set a screen for

606
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: Cors slipped it caught through me a float pass, and

607
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: I thought I was wild, hoping something like iring to

608
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: get my first bucket, like I'm gonna calm down, and

609
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: I tried to lay it up him. He can't. I

610
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: don't know where Brin came came since to the fifth row.

611
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't score it to the second half.

612
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: I didn't get my first bucket to the second half.

613
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: What what was that your welcome to the NBA moment?

614
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: That was for sure my welcome to the NBA. My

615
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: first shot Bron came out of nowhere. I was. I

616
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: was so now, once you're here, you're Boston. You know,

617
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: you had mixed feelings. But going into someone's place with

618
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: so much tradition, so many championships, what it was it

619
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: like being a part of that organization? Once you know,

620
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: realize that's where you're going and that's where you're at. Yeah,

621
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: it was. It kind of reminded me of being a duke. Um,

622
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, just so much winning history and tradition and

623
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: seeing all the banners they got up there and you know,

624
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: all the media attention. Uh duke really you know, really

625
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: prepared me to go to go to Boston and you know,

626
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: everything happened for a reason and it worked out really well.

627
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: So you know, I really enjoyed being in Boston so far.

628
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: And um, you know, playing in the Garden is it's

629
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: like no other place. Um. The fans are amazing and

630
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: just looking up there as a seventeen championships that we

631
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: have and all the great players that come before me

632
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: to put on their uniform is, um is crazy? What what?

633
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: What for my Celtics. Have you been able to speak

634
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: to our build a relationship with because I know when

635
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: we play for the Celtics, like talking to Paul, all

636
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: the former players, all the great to be around sometimes,

637
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: have you ever got a chance, even if it's Paul,

638
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: have you ever got a built a relationship with a

639
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: set a great Yeah, it would it would be Paul

640
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: and uh, Paul and KG. But you know, Paul is,

641
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: Paul is always. Paul Is around a lot more, especially

642
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, working with ESPN, So I talked to him.

643
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: I talked to him pretty often. Um. So you know,

644
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: just you know, watching because I watched him growing up

645
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: as well, you know somebody, and you know I kind

646
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: of took a little bits and pieces from the game

647
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: and his footwork. His footwork is unbelievable. Yeah, he's the truth,

648
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: the truth. So just being able to talk to him

649
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: and you know, him giving me little insights and in

650
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: words of encouragement, uh, you know, go a long way,

651
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: because you know, oftentimes, you know, sometimes older players, you know,

652
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: sometimes talk down on the new generation or stuff like that.

653
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: And and it's a good feeling when you know somebody

654
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: like Paul peers Is, you know, welcomes you and uh,

655
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: you know tells you that you know, you could be

656
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: the next you know self degrade or whatever like that.

657
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: You know, Um, you know, that's an incredible feeling. That's

658
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: what's up. So going from being nervous in your first game,

659
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: getting your first shot, throwing back to St. Louis by

660
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Lebron too too, doing your thing in the playoffs. You

661
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, beat the Bucks in the first

662
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: round in seven games, beat the Sixers in five games,

663
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: and like I said, battled the funk out of the

664
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Calves and in seven games, and so close to hed

665
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: at that game. I was at the game. You saw

666
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 1: the first thing my kids said when that came in

667
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: the first thing My twins said, when you're gonna dunk

668
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: on Brian again, you know what I mean? So that

669
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: was that was a crazy moment. But tell us what

670
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: that was like also considering Kyrie was out, you know,

671
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean, so it was all up to the young

672
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: guns to kind of do your thing. And you got

673
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: stepped on that stage man, and and really one over,

674
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: I said, the world with the way you played the confident,

675
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: the way you played Duncan on motherfucker's bumping braun after

676
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: you dunked him, Like talk to us about that whole

677
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: first year run. Yeah, that was that might have been

678
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 1: like probably the most fun I ever had playing basketball

679
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: because Gordon Gordon got hurt the first game and I

680
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: got hurt with like probably it was like we played

681
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 1: like twenty games in the regular season at the end

682
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: without cost, so we we kind of was starting to

683
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: form our own identity. That we was gonna go into

684
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it was weird, like we was a

685
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: two seed, but like every nobody thought we was gonna

686
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks, like because I was I was team

687
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: and JB was in his second year and we had

688
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: Terry and Smart and move, we had like a bunch

689
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: of like underdogs and things like that, and that really

690
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: like that really like boosted our confidence because we had

691
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: the home court advantage and you know, we were just

692
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: like we we just felt like we had nothing to lose.

693
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: So we we beat the Bucks in seven. So then

694
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: they was like, all right, you know, that was a fluke.

695
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: They're not gonna beat They're not gonna beat Philly, Philly

696
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: just I think Philly beat Miami like four one, you

697
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: know before that. So they was rolling. So they was like,

698
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be Philly. So then we was up.

699
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: We was up on Philly three zero, and then they

700
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: came back and we beat them in five. So now

701
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: we like and like you said, we kind of won

702
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: the world over like just how we was playing, and

703
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, I was leading the team in points. I

704
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: was having like nineteen, but like JV was giving us seventeen,

705
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: Terry was giving us seventeen and Horford and and my

706
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: man Muke was hooping. So we was really playing just

707
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: like free, like we had just nothing. Nobody had nothing

708
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: to lose. We were just going out and playing every

709
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: night and we was having so much fun. We was

710
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: locking up, you know, everybody was it was involved, and

711
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: you know once we played the Calves, yeah, we had

712
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: we could feel it like everybody was rooting for us,

713
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: like everybody, you know, it was like kind of a

714
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: feel good story, like people wanted us to see wanted

715
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: to see us do well, and even you know, to

716
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: take us to take them to Calves of Game seven

717
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: and play against bron like my first year in the league,

718
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: and that's like, that's that's something I'll never forget. Like

719
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: that that really has taught me a lot. And uh,

720
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: you know it really you know, Bill's character and boosted

721
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, my confidence going into you know, you know. Now,

722
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: it was good to see Matt because like I said,

723
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: I was there, but to see two young guys in

724
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: the young team without without Kyrie, it was refreshing to me.

725
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: And it was it was one of my favorite series

726
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: to watch because I was happy to see some young

727
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: guys compete and take that challenge and been thrown on

728
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: the stage at a young age against Lebron. They didn't

729
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: back down. I see someone see so many guys in

730
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: the league that don't take the challenge, that back down.

731
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: But it was good to see two young guys that

732
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: I knew that was from that from that culture. They went.

733
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Then they stepped up. They didn't win, but I think

734
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: the world was just happy to see some some young

735
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: talent come and compete and see the future getting ready

736
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: to rise in the league. That was That was refreshing

737
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: for me to see Bro. No question, that ship was

738
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: beautiful to watch. Talk to us a little bit about

739
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: that one particular play, you know the dunk, the bump.

740
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: You know that ship was on Sports Center top ten

741
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: what like. You know how I talked to how that dunk.

742
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: You know, I was talked about it and kind of

743
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: change things even no lot to this day, people either

744
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: tag me on Instagram or Twitter, like I see the

745
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: dunk every day since it some how many people straight

746
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: up now it's I gotta listen. I got a post

747
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: of it upstairs in my in my hallway, like my

748
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: mom got a post of it. My pops got one

749
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: in his house. Uh, it was crazy because you know,

750
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember like it was yesterday. It was

751
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. It was a low scoring game too,

752
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: so like those teams was kind of struggling a little bit,

753
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: and Brad caught the time out and he like, we're

754
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: settling too much for jumpers, you know, let's let's try

755
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: to get one. Let's try to get to the foul

756
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: and attack the rim. So I remember Smart had the

757
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: ball out comes set a pin down for me and

758
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: he was like, Jay, Tim, you get it. You know,

759
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: attack down here to make a play for yourself or

760
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: somebody else. So I remember I got it, and I

761
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: turned the corner and it's like everything kind of slowed

762
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: down for a second because I've seen Brian. I'm like, oh,

763
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: it's like I gotta try to dunk it, because if

764
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: like I didn't think I was on dunk on my mind, like,

765
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: let me just try to dunk it. Hopefully I get

766
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: the foul or something. So I'm like, oh, So like

767
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: the first for like five seconds, everything slowed down and

768
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: as soon as I jumped. As soon as I jumped,

769
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: it was like and then I'm coming down on the

770
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: ground and I don't I don't know why But I

771
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: bumped him and I yelled in his face and I

772
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: remember looked at me. I loved it. He after I

773
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: bumped him, he looked at me like, I'm like, oh,

774
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: let me get back on defense. That wasn't look though,

775
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: that was to look like, oh oh, this motherfucker is

776
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: for real. That was a look around, how how dare you?

777
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: But there's a look a little bit of respecting that

778
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: look too, like this little motherfucker came to hoot Man

779
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: for sure. And then you know, after that season, he

780
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: gave me one of the you know, the best compliments

781
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: you can get is you know you're built for stardom.

782
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: He saw the star in you obviously throughout the season,

783
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: especially in that in that playoff series, And what did

784
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: that mean to you to kind of be stamped by

785
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: arguably one of the greatest players of all time. He

786
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: gave me the problem M Yeah, like like you said, um,

787
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, when I when I stepped on the floor,

788
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: like I don't, I don't. I never back down from anybody.

789
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: I tell myself like when I step on the floor

790
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: like I'm the best player out here, Like That's how

791
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: I approach it. But like I still I understand like

792
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: Lebron is what he means the basketball and what he

793
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: means the players like myself, and you know, just basketball

794
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: in general, like what he's done so much for the game.

795
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: So to get that, you know, that nod from him,

796
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Um, you know, you you you

797
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: appreciate that, you know, just getting recognized. But you said

798
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: one of the one of the greatest. How important was

799
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: the team us say experience to you? That was super important.

800
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm glad I was able to be a part of it. Um.

801
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: I got hurt in our second game, so I didn't

802
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: I didn't get to play. Uh you know the rest

803
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: of the turning we end up we end up losing.

804
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: But really just learning from from Pop Man was like

805
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: that was so beneficial to myself and and I think

806
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: the way I played this this this season honestly, you know,

807
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: he really challenged He challenged me every day in film

808
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: and in practice. And I remember he sat me down

809
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: one day we was in front of the uh was

810
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: in the elevator and we got off the elevator. He

811
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: sat me down there like one of the stools in

812
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: the hallway. He was like, He's like, can I talk

813
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: to you? Like, yeah, Pop and he's like, I want

814
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: to I want to tell you something, and I hope

815
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: you don't get offended. And I don't know what you're

816
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: about to say, because Pop crazy like, here's say whatever

817
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: you want and you say whatever. Hey, Jack knows. Yeah,

818
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: he like, I hope I don't offend you. But he's like,

819
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: you could be. You could be like Kawhi Leonard And

820
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: I said why would I be? I said, why would

821
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: I be offended? Pop? He's like, oh, I'm just making sure.

822
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: He was like a lot of guys think they are

823
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: two way players, but it's only a few guys that

824
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: are actually good enough and able to do it. And

825
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: I feel like you have the capability of being a

826
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: two way, a real two way player in this league.

827
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: And ever since then, he challenged me every day on

828
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: defense and practice, and that kind of carried into this season.

829
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: That's dope. Well, I just thought overall, like you said,

830
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: the experience, the chance for you, Kimba, Jalen and Marcus

831
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: just to all be around that kind of coaching staff

832
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: and other stars was gonna pay dividends. Because you know,

833
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: Kimba's still young, but you know, especially that your your

834
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: young core just get just rubbing off, you know, rubbing

835
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, being around great coaches, being having that experience,

836
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: and then the confidence is gonna carry over into the

837
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: next season. And I think you touched on that. Um

838
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: in February, you average thirty per game, becoming only the

839
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: fifth self behind some classic names have the check Bird,

840
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: Pierced Isaiah Thomas, you being five. What goes through your

841
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: head when you hear those names and knowing you have

842
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: a place in Celtics history. Uh, that was I mean

843
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: that it kind of like shocked me. You know when

844
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: you when you put those those names up there, those

845
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: are you know, some of the greatest. And even I

846
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: t when he was here for those two years, he

847
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: was he was an animal. Um. But you know I

848
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: was just I was just in a groove. I remember

849
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: it kind of like the switch kind of click for

850
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: me when once I felt when I once I found

851
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: out I made the All Star Game. Um, it was

852
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: like it was like some pressure was was relieved because

853
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: coming into the season, that was like that was my

854
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: main focus was making an All Star Game because I

855
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: didn't make it my second year, and you know a

856
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: lot of people were you know, doubt me in and

857
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: count me out and I felt like this was kind

858
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: of like my my my last chance to like, you know,

859
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: kind of show people like I'm still you know, I'm

860
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: still able and capable to do what I do. So

861
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: making making an off star game was such a big

862
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: deal for me, and I was I was like pressing,

863
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: and it was like messing with me mentally this season.

864
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: You know, if I had a bad game, I'd be sick, like, damn,

865
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make it. But then I have a

866
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: good game. All right, I think I'm gonna make it.

867
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: But once I found out I made it, it was

868
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: just like all right, like let's hoop now. And then

869
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, I think from that point I was averaging

870
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: like thirty thirty something like that. Your mind's got to

871
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: be free. It's a beautiful thing. Talk to us a

872
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: little bit about, like you said, so a successful obviously

873
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: rookie season to run. You guys had the playoff front.

874
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: You have take a step back that second year there's

875
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: the here, there's chemistry issues, and here Kyrie is the problem.

876
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Me here there's no ball moving you hear a whole

877
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of things. What was the difference between that

878
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: second year team in the third year team now where

879
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: you're flourishing as All Star. The chemistry seemed to be

880
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: back on track. Um, what changed? You know, outside of

881
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: changing you know Kyrie, Kyrie and Kimba, who are similar

882
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: players to us sense you know from the outside looking in.

883
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: But what has been the big difference and why are

884
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: you guys back to the chemistry we saw as fans

885
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: your your rookie year. Uh. I think there was a

886
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: lot of things that I think played a part of that.

887
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: My my second year, Like you said, we had that group,

888
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: that young group. You know, we we we almost get

889
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: like a couple of stops away from getting to the championship.

890
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: So it's like we we had a big summer, you know,

891
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: guys are we're filling ourselves. We're excited. We were ready

892
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: to take that next jump. I think, you know, I'm

893
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm ready to be an All Star in my second year.

894
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: But now we got Gordon and Cole coming back, and

895
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: like we we everybody, but we all had good guys,

896
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: Like everybody got along, you know, we we like being

897
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: around each other. But I think it was just like

898
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: everybody had kind of like personal goals, which is not wrong. Um,

899
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, we we all were a fault to some degree.

900
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't play great, JB. You know, nobody

901
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: played as good as they wanted, and then we weren't winning,

902
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: So that had it like that affected us as well.

903
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: I remember the first twenty games, we was ten and ten,

904
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: and everybody thought we was gonna have a best record

905
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: in the in the league, and like we we just

906
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: weren't consistent. We have like a stretch where we like

907
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: we're winning five or six in a row, but then

908
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: we'll go one and one in six and I think

909
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: we just it just we just couldn't figure it out.

910
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: And you know, coming in this third year, we lost

911
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: like six or seven guys, and basically the message coming

912
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: into this season was like last year, like let's just

913
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: forget about it. Like last year happened. Um, we can

914
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: learn a lot from it individually and as a team,

915
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: but like, let's just forget about it. We can't change

916
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: what happened, so let's just focus on this year and

917
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: try not to make the same mistakes we did last season.

918
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: And I think we've been doing a pretty good job

919
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: of that, uh so far. So I mean I really

920
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: felt you guys were coming on strong, especially chemistry Rise

921
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: Jack and I both know being able to be on

922
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: championship teams. Chemistry is it is and you really fear

923
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: see and feel like you guys are having fun out there.

924
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: You and JB. You're going back and forth doing your thing.

925
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: Kai does this? Excuse me, Kimba was doing this thing.

926
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: Gordon's getting his footing back under him. You guys are

927
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: playing really well. You know you were to me, you

928
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: guys are not necess the surprise team of the East

929
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: because we know how good and talented you guys were,

930
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: but just coming off that second season, we're just like, well,

931
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: what team are we gonna get? You know what I mean?

932
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: So you guys are proving in that second half of

933
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: the season man, that you guys are definitely a team

934
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: to be reckoned with. And I was looking forward to

935
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: this playoff from what are your thoughts and how optimistic

936
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: are you about us? Or excuse me, you guys returning

937
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: to the court this season. To be honest, now, I

938
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. It's like one week you hear

939
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: one thing and then the next week you hear something else.

940
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: So I honestly, I don't know. I feel like, you know,

941
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: I feel like it may be tough to come back. Um,

942
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: you know, so many obstacles and variables that you got

943
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: to put in place and work things out. And you know,

944
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: and I hear like plans, uh plan without fans, Like

945
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I know a lot of people

946
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: probably don't know. I don't want to do that because

947
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: I just think that's you lose a lot of the

948
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: passion for the game. And like that's kind of who

949
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: we played for. We played for the fans. We play

950
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: the game energy energy, We feed off of that. So

951
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, they got people that's gonna try

952
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: to figure it out one way or another. But to

953
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: be honest, man, at this point, I don't know what's

954
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen. You and Kyrie got a good got a

955
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: good Duke connection, you know, y'all big y'all been brothers.

956
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: What was it like playing with him in Boston and

957
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: now now with him being in Brooklyn. Uh yeah, that's

958
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: that's like my big brother. Um obviously the Duke connection.

959
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: And I joked with him all the time he only

960
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: played nine games at Duke, So I like, bro, you

961
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: really didn't what you play, You only what you only

962
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: play you only played, y'all. Both was in and out

963
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: that motherfucker though, But yeah, I'm playing with uh. You know,

964
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: we have to say at the same time, we have

965
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: the same agent. And then you know, playing two years

966
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: with him, Um, you know it, like especially my first year,

967
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: Like I don't people, I don't care, like people might

968
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: think he crazy, but Kai got he got game, like

969
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: he wanted the He one of the most skilled basketball players.

970
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: Like however, like me me getting to see it, especially

971
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: my first year, it's it's a difference being on the

972
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: court with him and seeing it and every day every

973
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: game and then practice, like just some of the things

974
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: he did with the ball, it was just like mind

975
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: boggling to me. And the way he was able to

976
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: finish like he he like he's special. Uh, and he's

977
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: one of the he one of the best players. I've

978
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: got this was able to see and in person and

979
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: play with and you know, his descision to go to

980
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: Brooklyn obviously, I mean a lot of people was mad

981
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: and things like that. But you know, us as basketball players,

982
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: we understand like once you get to a certain level

983
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: and a certain point in your career, like you've earned

984
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: the right to make the decision on what makes you

985
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: happy and what you want to do so I was,

986
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean I was. I was happy for him. You

987
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: know that's he wanted to go back home and be

988
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: close to his family and played, you know, something he

989
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: dreamed about. I think everybody should have the opportunity because

990
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you can get traded in a

991
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: blink of eye, and and you know, nobody getting mad

992
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: at the organization, but you know everybody pointed the finger

993
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: when somebody wants to go do what makes them happen. Facts. Absolutely,

994
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: it's the it's the business when you're traded, cut waved,

995
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: But you're a bad guy when you take your happiness

996
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: and freedom into your own hands as a cold game.

997
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: Your first All Star appearance, you you you spoke on

998
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: how nerve wracking it was being up to that, you know,

999
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: leading up to that time you're named an All Star.

1000
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: Talk to us about what that was like, and you

1001
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: know what kind of the ex heale you took, like ship,

1002
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm here now, I was supposed to be here possibly

1003
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: last year, but I'm here now. Tell us what that

1004
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: was like. Man also was Uh, it's a great experience.

1005
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: I was there my first two years with the rookie

1006
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: and sophomore game. But it's a different vibe. It's a

1007
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: different like I had a different walk about myself this time.

1008
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: I was like I'm an All Star now, like, yeah,

1009
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: we've seen it, straight up, straight up. I had a

1010
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: different walk. And I remember the best part about it

1011
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: was Sunday during when we got to the game and

1012
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: I walked in the locker room and like I got

1013
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: to see my jersey and that it was just like like, man,

1014
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: like this is what you dreamed about, Like you, I

1015
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: finally made it. And I looked at my left lebron

1016
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: locker next to me and Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook

1017
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: and James Harden and Dame Lillard and and Anthony Davis,

1018
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, all guys that like when I was in

1019
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: middle school and high school watching these guys playing. Now

1020
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: we're on the same team. I think that's the coolest

1021
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: part about being an All Star, Like getting the opportunity

1022
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: to maybe whether it's three or five minutes you in

1023
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: the game and it's not really meaningful, but just being

1024
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: able to be on the court with like, all right,

1025
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm on the court with Kauai and Chris Paul, you know,

1026
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: just being able to play with different guys that you

1027
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: know you may not never get to play with uh

1028
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: it was was it was incredible. Espec see the way

1029
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: that the the format change this year. You know, the last

1030
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: couple of minutes of the game was it was crazy

1031
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: and I loved. I love the way they did that,

1032
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: and uh it was it was in trouble for the

1033
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: players and indroable for the fans and everybody watching. So

1034
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think the nybody did a great job

1035
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: with that. Okay, from the All Star Game to a

1036
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: regular season or just period. What's the toughest player you

1037
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: like to battle with? The toughest player? Uh uh, it's

1038
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: it's either like Kauai, Mellow, Paul George. I would say

1039
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Katie was hurt this year. So so it'll be between

1040
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: those three because those are all three guys like I like,

1041
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: we'll watch film on the high school and you know,

1042
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: study their moves and not get to play against me.

1043
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: You know, Mellow is a little bit older, but you

1044
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: know with Paul George and Kauai being on the same team,

1045
00:50:53,760 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: and especially like Kauai Kauai, he like he he that Dealey.

1046
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not flashy, but he gets the job done.

1047
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: So I always like watching him and you know how

1048
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: hard he compete on both ends. Um, you know, I

1049
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: like watching the Clippers play when I'm not playing. What

1050
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: was it like to be able to drop Paul George

1051
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: on that move and then still hit the shot. It's

1052
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: one of the better defenders in the game. You hit

1053
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: him with the old that old move got him and

1054
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: then we're still able to knock down the shot. Yeah, no,

1055
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy. PG is somebody that you know,

1056
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: obviously I looked up to and kind of built a

1057
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: relationship with. You know, since I was in college. I

1058
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: talked to from time to time, and you know, I

1059
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: just remember getting him off that switch, and I mean

1060
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: we got tangled up a little bit, so you know,

1061
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: he probably stepped on my foot or something. But you know,

1062
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: just as he failed, and then it was like I

1063
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: gathered myself. I'm like, man, you gotta hit this then,

1064
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: but I couldn't celebrate because we it was tied, so

1065
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: I just play. It was a hell of a game,

1066
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: feel like now, it was a good game. Yeah, yeah,

1067
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: a hell of a game. Talk to me a little

1068
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: bit about because I see the joy and the pride

1069
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: you're taken in in fatherhood and becoming a star simultaneously,

1070
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, you bring your son around a lot. Talk

1071
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: to us about what that balance is like and how

1072
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: rewarding being a father is to you. Yeah, it's it's uh,

1073
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: it's it's don't like anything I thought it was gonna be.

1074
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: You know, I knew I was gonna have I found

1075
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: out I was gonna have a kid like the end

1076
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: of the last month or two of college. Um, so

1077
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: it was I was. I was nineteen at the time.

1078
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: So I moved to Boston, moved my my family out here,

1079
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: and I got drafted. So it's like everything just kind

1080
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: of like my words got turned upside down like and

1081
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: all in the span of six months. And I remember

1082
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: I was so nervous because it was like I was

1083
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: so I was so like worried and concentrated, like I'm

1084
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: gonna be like I'm gonna be one of the best.

1085
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a star, like I'm not gonna let

1086
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: nothing get in that way. But now it's now it's

1087
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: like I gotta I got a son, and I want

1088
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: to be the best father I can be. So it's like,

1089
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: all right, I look at it as a challenge like

1090
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do both, Like I'm gonna be one

1091
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: of the best in the league, and I'm gonna be

1092
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna be there with him every step

1093
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: of the way. And it's it's been a joy. I mean,

1094
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: I got help. You know, his mom is up here,

1095
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: and my mom helps me out a lot, obviously with traveling.

1096
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: But you know, any chance I get, I'm always with him.

1097
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: And you know, I take more pride and being a

1098
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: father than I do playing being a basketball player. So

1099
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: there's nothing like it that the joy is is incredible.

1100
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: So we salute you, man. We we both all got

1101
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: kids and know that feeling. Man, but we can see

1102
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: it in your face, in your eyes when you bring

1103
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: him around and and and really kind of show him out.

1104
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's dope. Man. Music today, it's just

1105
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: going to music. What's you listen to nowadays? And there

1106
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: in the artists a song gonna repeat right now. I

1107
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: got like my I got my favorite, like the people

1108
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: who are my favorite. But I listen to everybody, so

1109
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: it's like whatever is new, like the baby got some

1110
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: new little baby, um a boogie. You know, I always

1111
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: listened to you know, what's what's latest, So I'm always

1112
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: a fan of that. But I still got the guys,

1113
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: that's like my favorite. You know who who is? Just

1114
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: you know that? List on? Stay there? Who's your goal to?

1115
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: Who's your favorites? Who's your top five? You're starting five

1116
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: in the rap game, like my start my my five?

1117
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: All right? Hold Hold is the HOVI is the he

1118
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: the greatest, Hove is he is? He's a goat. I

1119
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: got drinking number two. I think Drake my favorite, but Hold,

1120
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: I thought I got Hold is the great So I

1121
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: got hold Drake. I got little Wayne Wayne Them three

1122
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: is goats. Wayne is Wayne is number three? Mm hmmm,

1123
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: uh way his money? Yeah Wayne, he he did. He

1124
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: would go to them three Biggie biggie number four. Uh,

1125
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean I thought, I thought Nelly and that nearly

1126
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: number five. He got to Man, you got mad at

1127
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: that number five? Country Grandma. Yeah, he puts Come on, man,

1128
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: he put y'all on the map for real. Get the

1129
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 1: stomping in the air force once many rappers Diamond, not many.

1130
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: He definitely want of him. If any rapper could name

1131
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: drop you on the song, what rapper would you want

1132
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: that to be? Just one? Mm hmmm who? Because you know,

1133
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: because you know whatever you say now not since as

1134
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: you say it on here. It's gonna happen. I know

1135
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: you can if you want to, you can give us

1136
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: two if you want it. You can't just give it

1137
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: to I'm I'm not gonna say hold. I'm not gonna

1138
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: say hold because he don't really like make music like that.

1139
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: No more so I'm not gonna say hold mm hmmm. Not.

1140
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say Drake neither out for for real.

1141
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: If if Little Wayne or Yo Gotti, if Little Wayne

1142
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 1: and Yo gotta said my name in the song because

1143
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: my favorites too, so as much as much as Little

1144
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: Wayne watched basketball, trust me, it's coming. I need one

1145
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: of the next the next mixtapes, Dedication seven or something.

1146
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: I need. I need to hear my name. Yeah straight uh.

1147
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: You you joked that you got a top five hairline

1148
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: in the game back in my day, Like I sound

1149
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: the oldest fun I was. You was leading boy, My

1150
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: ship was Chris Bonny. It was your top three hair

1151
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: lines in the game right now. No, yeah, Matt, you

1152
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: was fresh. Yeah we got a hole down, but you

1153
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: got like a no bullshit. You gotta like that picture

1154
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: perfect hairline though, like your ship is perfect in the

1155
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: front and then the drop down in the hooks like,

1156
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: I definitely admired your ship. You know, I'll be looking

1157
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: at the hairlines like a motherfucker. You gotta got nice

1158
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: crispy one. Sure, I got my head all right now,

1159
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: she looks crazy right now, I got I gotta mother beano.

1160
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: I feel you top top three hairlines myself. Who else

1161
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: be fresh? PG? I get it, the PG got you

1162
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: gotta seek that sick hairline, the third one, the third one.

1163
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: It could be. I ain't gonna lie. Uh. What's my

1164
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: man name, fred Fred van Fleet? He keep he keep

1165
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: a fresh cut. I peep that. Yeah, I think it's no,

1166
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: it's no disrespect to people your complexion, Jack, because sometimes

1167
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: we couldn't see the hair on your head. But I

1168
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: think when your light skinned with that, I was live

1169
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: that when you can see it, you can see hey.

1170
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: But that was the one thing, one thing that used

1171
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: to funck me up, Jack. And sometimes we couldn't see

1172
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: your hair, Like no, your tattoos. I'm like, damn, I

1173
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: know the motherfucker's testoo, suff you can't even see them.

1174
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: You got some tattoos. The wady could even see them.

1175
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: Business all right, man, we're going, we're coming coming down

1176
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: the home stretch. We're gonna go into quick hitters. Go

1177
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: ahead and start him off. Jack All right, quick kids. Okay,

1178
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: now listen before I ask you this question. Your answer.

1179
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: If you know or have are connected to the answer

1180
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: of this question, you have to plug us and make

1181
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: sure what happens. Who would you like to see as

1182
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: a guest on our show? As a guest on our show,

1183
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: guests on your show, you don't have to be a

1184
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: basketball player. No, anybody, No, not at all, anybody I've

1185
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: seen my favorite My favorite show so far was KG.

1186
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: KG was my favorite one so far. But if I

1187
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: could pick somebody, probably that's a tough one. I know, right,

1188
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. Meek Meal, maybe Nick Melill be nice. Yeah,

1189
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: we need to have meek on Hill to talk to

1190
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: me about two great call Ya had Denzil on here?

1191
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: No ship we wish? Yeah, that's probably not that easy,

1192
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: but Denzil that would be dope as hell. Most of

1193
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: most most underrated player in the league. He said he

1194
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: didn't know neither one of them. He can't hook him

1195
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: up with either, one of most underrated player in the league.

1196
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: In your opinion, I might be biased, but I think

1197
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: I think Brad Bill might be one of the most

1198
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: underrated players. Like he averaged thirty one this season and

1199
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: he didn't make the Austar game. Yeah, Like I feel

1200
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: like if he's probably if he was in a bigger market,

1201
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: you know that he would be on ESPN more. But

1202
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is like real basketball fans,

1203
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, they know and they know like how good

1204
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: he is. But I think he needs more. He needs

1205
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: more attention because he's killing killer player with them with

1206
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: the most swag. What player has the most swag to

1207
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: you off the courter on the court total this period period?

1208
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: I ain't my man, my man trow Terry Terry rose

1209
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: Yer out there in Charlotte rose Yeah, yeah, hut. And

1210
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: he shows you currently binge watching. I've been trying to

1211
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: watch that a little bit. I was. It starts off slow.

1212
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: It's just starts stick with it, stick with it. It

1213
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: starts slow. But that should get going crazy, bro crazy.

1214
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm a big I'm a big power guy.

1215
01:00:53,480 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: Power was my shop, great show favorite Quarantine, Snacks a

1216
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: race race, Crispy, treat them and them good old honey buns.

1217
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: The honey buns go wrong and put them bars in

1218
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: the micro You don't look, man, you don't take them.

1219
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: You don't take them out the plastic. What you do

1220
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: is you open the top part and you leave it

1221
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: in the plasts, and you put the whole thing in

1222
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: the microwave. You're feeling me. You put the whole thing

1223
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: in the microwave by fifteen By fifteen seconds made, I'm

1224
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: telling you, fifteen seconds. It's over with, It's over Oh jack, Jack,

1225
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: you're talking to a fellow stone bro. You don't think

1226
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: I know how to heat up a motherfucking honey bun.

1227
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, I had to to red to

1228
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: reenact because it took me the when he said, honey,

1229
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: but I went there almost them is fired. Uh. Favorite

1230
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: retro jersey, the old school magic Joint with the strike

1231
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: with the black joints. The Black Ship was hard shocking

1232
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: Penny days. I hope Penny centers that one too. Um

1233
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: you have if you can get court side seats to

1234
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: any game and any time in any era, what game

1235
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: would it be? Oh? Uh, courtside to two thousand one?

1236
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: When when when when a I played? When they played

1237
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: the Lake Lakers and step stepped over to loo then

1238
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: went in to stole that game. That was the only

1239
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: game the Lakers lost in the playoffs that year. That

1240
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: give me your top five in the game in the

1241
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: history of the game, in the history yep, Mike, Mike, Mike,

1242
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: Brian Kobe, Mike, Kobe Bryant, like they two and three,

1243
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: whatever way you want to put it. Yeah, yeah, it's

1244
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: tough because it's like I I didn't see Bill Russell player.

1245
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: I didn't see what Chamberlain, I didn't see Larry Bird. No,

1246
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: go with want you to go with what you know.

1247
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: We feel the same way about something the older wy

1248
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: we we feel that because so go with what you

1249
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: know him? No, I respect him, I just didn't see

1250
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: him play. So Magic Johnson and number four and then

1251
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: the third for the fifth spot is between Sat Kareem

1252
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: and KD for real, he might be in the top

1253
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,959
Speaker 1: five already. Katie is a killer, and I think people

1254
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: take they take his talent for granted and may like

1255
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: not like something about him so they don't give them

1256
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 1: to do. Just as far as his game on the quarter,

1257
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: but this game on the court is second to none. Second,

1258
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: when he stepped on that when he when he lays

1259
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: him up, he he he laces him, he laces them.

1260
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: Hold you better have your shoes on tight. All right,

1261
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: this is a final segment of the show. It's Stephen

1262
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson's begging segment. Jack take it away. Yes, I'll

1263
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: take it away. So therefore we just talked about how

1264
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: I was rudely and abruptly booted from the Jordan family.

1265
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: Shout out to my BOI. They still showing me just

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Speaker 1: that's just stort me love because Mike. You know, Mike

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Speaker 1: understands that I the first person to get his team,

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Speaker 1: his organization to the playoffs. Nothing about me, though, Um

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Speaker 1: you got I needed. I needed Jersey brod. Could I

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Speaker 1: get some Green Player exclusives shoes from you? Bro? I

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Speaker 1: know you got. I know you got some green with

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Speaker 1: I keep find the green was nowhere, the ones you

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Speaker 1: play in, the ones I'm play in. Yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: do that. You love. That's love. Appreciate easy, that's easy.

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Speaker 1: That's easy love. And I'm gonna hit you up for

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Speaker 1: some kids shoes. That's all I want. I don't want

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Speaker 1: nothing for me, all right, man. That's around bro. Thanks Bro,

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Speaker 1: Jason sator Man, we appreciate you. Thank you for taking

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Speaker 1: some time with us. Man. Best of luck if the

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Speaker 1: season comes back. Uh, stay healthy, Uh you know, keep

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Speaker 1: being a great dad and keep doing your thing. Man.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time today. Pick up, pick out right

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Speaker 1: when you live out, bro, you say, I got keep

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Speaker 1: holding it down for the light skins with the good hairline.

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Speaker 1: See my love. That's a wrap, Jack the show, good

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Speaker 1: day to day stack, good job, my boy. That's a wrap.

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Speaker 1: You can catch all the smokers Showtime, basketball, YouTube or

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Speaker 1: all platforms, streaming, podcasts, all of them. There's something about

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Speaker 1: how this place forms a different kind of person. On

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Speaker 1: my high school team, we have five guys make the NBA.

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Speaker 1: We had the county right, you mentioned French Shorts County.

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Speaker 1: People know what it's about. It's the mecca of basketball.

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Speaker 1: There are those who come before us, upon whose shoulders

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Speaker 1: we stand here for this area. You have to have

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Speaker 1: tough skin. The gym became the sanctuary. BG County guy

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Speaker 1: provide bucks for America Press. Georgia packs a lot of power,

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Speaker 1: a lot of character. It's nothing that you can do

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Speaker 1: to stop that competitive edge. We're pushing the community and

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Speaker 1: a culture full. There's just in the water. H This

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Speaker 1: life was all I ever wanted. I'm not leaving not yet.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping you'd say that we gotta hit the

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Speaker 1: streets make some money. Maybe like us, Let's destroyed people

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