WEBVTT - A Stone Wall - 11.28

0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.720
<v Speaker 1>My friends at my Pillow. My buddy Michaelendell told me

0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:04.880
<v Speaker 1>he was coming out with a brand new product. It's

0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>called the New Mattress Topper. So I got the new

0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:10.959
<v Speaker 1>Mattress Topper immediately and I've been sleeping on it now

0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:13.239
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of months. It's the best thing you've

0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.320
<v Speaker 1>ever felt in your life. Now you literally have my

0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.319
<v Speaker 1>pillow foam for support. It's a transitional foam that helps

0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.880
<v Speaker 1>relieve pressure points. And it's Ultrasoft patented temperature regulating cover.

0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:25.799
<v Speaker 1>And I gotta tell you how's a ten year warranty,

0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a cover that's washable and driable. It's made in the USA,

0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.040
<v Speaker 1>back by the sixty day unconditional money back guarantee. Once

0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.519
<v Speaker 1>you try this new mattress topper, you put it right

0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.000
<v Speaker 1>over your mattress, you will never sleep better. And right now,

0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you my radio listeners, you're gonna save thirty percent off

0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.640
<v Speaker 1>when you go to my pillow dot com and use

0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the promo code topper. And by the way, Mike will

0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.839
<v Speaker 1>also give you two standard my pillows absolutely free. All right,

0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:55.480
<v Speaker 1>So try my pillow dot Com promo code topper promo

0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.880
<v Speaker 1>code topper for this great deal and the best night's

0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.400
<v Speaker 1>sleep you ever had. All right, glad you with us.

0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:06.520
<v Speaker 1>We are loaded up today and I am absolutely fascinated

0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:11.240
<v Speaker 1>by what is developing with the Muller witch hunt investigation

0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and how that's going down. Roger Stone, who seems to

0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:19.360
<v Speaker 1>be a target of Robert Muller and his merry band

0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of Democratic donors and his pit bull Andrew Weissman, genius

0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that he is cost tens of thousands of jobs at

0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and Ron Accounting, and then of course genius that he

0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.240
<v Speaker 1>is loses in the Supreme Court nine zero, and then

0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>he puts four Merrill executives in jail for a year,

0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.520
<v Speaker 1>and of course that's overturned by the Fifth Circuit Court

0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of Appeal. And but the tactics that they're using are

0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:48.680
<v Speaker 1>now finally coming into question, and this is an amazing phenomenon. Well,

0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.520
<v Speaker 1>by the way, we'll have Roger Stone on. We'll also

0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to Andy McCarthy and Greg Jarrett both earlier today.

0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.200
<v Speaker 1>They are they have an amazing analysis of all of

0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.280
<v Speaker 1>this in as much as there could be no possible

0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:07.160
<v Speaker 1>crime as it relates to collusion for either Stone or

0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Jerome Corsie, none whatsoever. And of course the media's take

0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.720
<v Speaker 1>on it is extraordinarily biased. Congressman Louie Gomert's going to

0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.760
<v Speaker 1>check in today. He actually says we can get full

0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.320
<v Speaker 1>funding for the wall if the Congress, Republican Congress, and

0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Senate in this lame duck session would actually do their job,

0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.320
<v Speaker 1>and that the plan would be to pay for a

0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:32.119
<v Speaker 1>wall through the reconciliation process. And you know, and he's

0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.720
<v Speaker 1>absolutely right. You know, over the last twenty years, budget

0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:40.680
<v Speaker 1>reconciliation has been used as a very powerful weapon to

0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.640
<v Speaker 1>bypass filibusters, where you normally need cloture and a vote

0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.119
<v Speaker 1>of sixty in the Senate to advance legislation. In this case,

0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.279
<v Speaker 1>you only need fifty because Mike Pence is the tiebreaker.

0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And so when the president was elected, you know, there

0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.200
<v Speaker 1>already was an effort to move to reconciliation as a

0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.920
<v Speaker 1>way to repeal Obamacare. And that's when we discovered that

0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.920
<v Speaker 1>after seven and a half years and sixty or seventy

0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.840
<v Speaker 1>votes to repeal and replace, that there are actually some

0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Republicans that didn't mean a single word that they uttered

0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.480
<v Speaker 1>on the campaign trail, and they were just gonna go

0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.840
<v Speaker 1>rogue regardless, and they didn't have the stomach for the fight.

0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And then we found out that the Senators some what

0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.960
<v Speaker 1>six or seven of them that voted in twenty fifteen

0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.480
<v Speaker 1>for straight repeal of Obamacare, well they decided when it

0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.320
<v Speaker 1>actually mattered, knowing that Obama wouldn't support it when it mattered,

0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.360
<v Speaker 1>they weren't going to vote that way. Again, it's unbelievable.

0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.560
<v Speaker 1>And in spite of all of that, still the losses

0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.000
<v Speaker 1>what thirty eight or so now for Republicans in the House.

0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.800
<v Speaker 1>But now with the big win in Mississippi by Hyde

0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Smith yesterday, you know, now it's fifty three forty seven

0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi came through. That was a big important vote that

0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.600
<v Speaker 1>took place in that runoff election. There was one more

0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.960
<v Speaker 1>left at Umber the fourth, and I think it's for

0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:06.400
<v Speaker 1>secretary State Georgia, and I mind whatever, just one race

0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.800
<v Speaker 1>is left and it's in Georgia, and it's not governor

0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.280
<v Speaker 1>or lieutenant governor. I think it's secretary of state or

0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.240
<v Speaker 1>whatever they call it. What's that, Linda, Yeah, I am

0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.600
<v Speaker 1>right there, thank you. But so there is no reason

0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:24.279
<v Speaker 1>for the Republicans not to use the same tactics that

0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the White House under Obama used. The reconciliation process that

0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.800
<v Speaker 1>was the only way they were ever gonna get Obamacare passed,

0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and they did it. That's not how you pass major

0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:41.000
<v Speaker 1>legislation anyway. When the House now is back in Washington,

0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:46.280
<v Speaker 1>why doesn't the Republican leadership in the House set up

0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen Budget resolution alter the reconciliation instructions to

0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.680
<v Speaker 1>provide twenty five billion in new mandatory spending authority for

0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:59.479
<v Speaker 1>the Department of Homeland Security and the Homeland Security Committee,

0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.479
<v Speaker 1>and instructions provided to offset the new spending with cuts

0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to other mandatory programs. Now a reconciliation bills. Look, it's

0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:13.440
<v Speaker 1>just a complicated legislative process where Congress. It allows Congress

0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to expedite passage of certain budgetary legislation on spending revenues

0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.919
<v Speaker 1>debt that limit a simple majority vote in vote the

0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.760
<v Speaker 1>House two and eighteen votes Senate fifty votes. Senate rules

0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:31.039
<v Speaker 1>prohibit filibustering and impose a twenty hour cap on a

0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:35.679
<v Speaker 1>total time for debate motions amendments related to reconciliation bills.

0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.479
<v Speaker 1>The procedure also exists in the House, but the House

0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:44.279
<v Speaker 1>regularly passes rules that constrain debate amendments, so reconciliation has

0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.680
<v Speaker 1>even a less significant impact in that body, and we

0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.520
<v Speaker 1>can get all of that done. All of that can happen,

0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and we have a lot of issues about the wall.

0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.760
<v Speaker 1>You've got ten thousand more migrants headed for the border.

0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.240
<v Speaker 1>This has now become the situation we warned you it

0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.520
<v Speaker 1>was likely to become. Although some people are turned around

0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.159
<v Speaker 1>and figured out Donald Trump means it and they're going home.

0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.479
<v Speaker 1>We went through a long laundry list of how many

0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.279
<v Speaker 1>times Barack Obama as president. I mean, it's pretty outrageous.

0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:18.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, everyone's so upset if they're using tear gas,

0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.799
<v Speaker 1>women and Joe chemical weapons. One person said, it's tear gas.

0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.960
<v Speaker 1>And where did the president get this great idea for

0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:31.480
<v Speaker 1>tear gas? Well, he got it from Barack Obama, because

0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama did it again and again and again in

0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the media doesn't care about what the truth is, and

0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you got the media's echo chamber in the media, they're

0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:46.320
<v Speaker 1>spinning out of control over non lethal tear gas to

0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.320
<v Speaker 1>disperse crowds, in this case, a crowd that was trying

0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.080
<v Speaker 1>to bust down a barrier and rush the border while

0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.200
<v Speaker 1>they were pelting our border patrol agents. We've gotten the

0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:01.200
<v Speaker 1>video with rocks and bottles and other debris and even

0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.680
<v Speaker 1>hitting a few of them. So you have thousands of

0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.640
<v Speaker 1>migrants now more and more keep arriving just south of

0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:10.600
<v Speaker 1>San Diego and Tijuana, and based on the press, you

0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.680
<v Speaker 1>can't ignore now what is a serious situation that is

0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:18.480
<v Speaker 1>ongoing there and all while assaulting border patrol with rocks

0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and bottles, etc. And the mainstream meeting is doing anything

0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and everything to vilify the president for doing so. However,

0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.480
<v Speaker 1>as per usual, they have failed to tell you the truth,

0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the whole truth, the unvarnished truth. You know. NewsBusters pointed

0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.240
<v Speaker 1>out that networks totally ignored the use of tear gas

0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.760
<v Speaker 1>during the Obama administration, and the Washington Times, we touched

0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.560
<v Speaker 1>on it a bit yesterday, showed that the tear gas

0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.680
<v Speaker 1>was used about once a month during Obama's time in

0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:54.320
<v Speaker 1>office in order to stop migrants from crossing the border illegally.

0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that pretty much all you need to know about

0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:02.480
<v Speaker 1>your abusively biased destroyed Trump pat Trump mainstream media. There's

0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.800
<v Speaker 1>no monthly outrage over the actions of the Obama administration,

0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.880
<v Speaker 1>no grandstanding, no, you know, it's sort of like we

0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:14.720
<v Speaker 1>get this all the time, selective moral outrage. If, for example,

0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the very people that said I believe as it relates

0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to charges against Brett Kavanaugh. In the case of doctor Ford,

0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Republicans handled it app with the absolute sensitivity a topic

0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like this deserves. And then she had mentioned four witnesses,

0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.480
<v Speaker 1>one eyewitness to what had happened the alleged assault by

0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Judge Kvanaugh. The witness said it never happened. Never, So

0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.160
<v Speaker 1>do you believe in due process or Democrats didn't because

0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.120
<v Speaker 1>they kept saying I believe, I believe, And then it

0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:52.240
<v Speaker 1>gets worse, then ending with Julie Sweatnick and nearly every

0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.320
<v Speaker 1>weekend there was a punch that was spiked, and young

0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.720
<v Speaker 1>teenage girls drugged, and girls put in bedrooms, and boys

0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.880
<v Speaker 1>line the hall and waiting their turn to gang rape

0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:07.040
<v Speaker 1>these drug girls. Even though sweatnext story changed dramatically. Well,

0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I never saw him do anything to the punch, meaning Kavanaugh,

0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and never saw him, you know, spike the punch. But

0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.280
<v Speaker 1>one song him with a red solo cup at a party.

0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.120
<v Speaker 1>There's a shocker, and well he wasn't really standing in line,

0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.800
<v Speaker 1>he was just in the hall. And then of course

0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that fell apart. But you noticed that many of the

0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.360
<v Speaker 1>same people that wanted to really go after Brett Kavanaugh.

0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.880
<v Speaker 1>They're the same people that were silent. That's a thirty six,

0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:37.559
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven year old charge. Silent about Keith Ellison's recent

0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:42.720
<v Speaker 1>charge this year by a former girlfriend of abuse, repeated abuse,

0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.840
<v Speaker 1>physical and other abuse, or the charges against Michael Avanati

0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:51.960
<v Speaker 1>abuse in that particular case, charges unlike them. I'm consistent.

0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe in due process, presumption of innocence for everybody.

0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.480
<v Speaker 1>But if they cared about the issue, they would have

0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.480
<v Speaker 1>taken the same strong stand that they were taken against Cavanaugh,

0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.040
<v Speaker 1>against the fellow Democrats and the Bill Clinton that they

0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:09.400
<v Speaker 1>love worship, idolizing a door. Now let me you know

0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.920
<v Speaker 1>other things. We have all these We have more people coming.

0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:18.200
<v Speaker 1>There's another new caravan forming in Central America tonight from

0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.520
<v Speaker 1>El Salvador, and we're watching that very closely. And if

0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you thought Sunday's border patrol victory over the migrants trying

0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.800
<v Speaker 1>to push down the wall and quote invade if you're

0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.880
<v Speaker 1>going to quote the mayor of Tijuana, but anyway, up

0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.599
<v Speaker 1>to ten thousand more caravan migrants are still headed to

0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the US border, and we have another caravan for me.

0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Then we have the brother of the Honduran President indicted

0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.160
<v Speaker 1>for importing tons of cocaine into the US. I've been

0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.760
<v Speaker 1>to the drug warehouses. It's it's pretty fascinating. I gotta

0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.600
<v Speaker 1>pull up that video and play it again on Hannity.

0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll do it tonight. Republicans, you know, ignoring the

0:10:54.360 --> 0:11:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Reconciliation Bill to Philly fully fund the wall, why, it's

0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:04.600
<v Speaker 1>very frustrating. All right, So we have really these are

0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.079
<v Speaker 1>fascinating times, and we have Roger Stone is going to

0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.199
<v Speaker 1>join us later in the program, and we have Andy

0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.599
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy and Greg Jarrett are going to join us in

0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the program. Is signpost that Muller is now in full

0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:22.640
<v Speaker 1>acceleration mode as it relates to wanting to wrap this up.

0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.240
<v Speaker 1>The President has given written answers. One of the questions

0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.719
<v Speaker 1>apparently was leaked today and the President's answer, and we'll

0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.920
<v Speaker 1>ask Roger Stone about it, and that was whether whether

0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:35.320
<v Speaker 1>or not Roger Stone and he ever talked about any

0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.240
<v Speaker 1>possible release by Assange and wiki leaks. And I'm pretty

0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:40.920
<v Speaker 1>sure that the answer is going to be no. But

0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.640
<v Speaker 1>then we've got two people here. One is Jerome Corsi

0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and who's a friend of Roger Stones. He's been offered

0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:53.319
<v Speaker 1>a plea deal where he they would not oppose a

0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:59.040
<v Speaker 1>sentencing of probation only. So, in other words, immunity plea deal,

0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you can get off with probation. What is he? Seventy

0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.800
<v Speaker 1>years old, seventy one years old, seventy two years old.

0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how old Jerome Corsi is. I know

0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.640
<v Speaker 1>he fought in the Vietnam War because he was part

0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of the swift Boat Vets for Truth and wrote the

0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.760
<v Speaker 1>book with James O'Neill Unfit to Serve about John Kerry.

0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.840
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know how. Listen, he says some crazy stuff.

0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.720
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't believe that the moon landing is reel. I

0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.840
<v Speaker 1>got it. I understand this. For the sake of this case,

0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that's not what matters. And so they want him, obviously

0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.120
<v Speaker 1>to flip on Stone. Now the question is what are

0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:35.080
<v Speaker 1>they going to flip him on? In other words, is

0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:42.240
<v Speaker 1>it a crime that they hear that maybe Wiki leaks

0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:46.199
<v Speaker 1>has information that's damning to Hillary? Okay, well, I can

0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.480
<v Speaker 1>guarantee you if you line up four hundred and thirty

0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.000
<v Speaker 1>five members of Congress and one hundred senators and somebody

0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.240
<v Speaker 1>tells them that they might be up research on your

0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.520
<v Speaker 1>opponent that's going to help you win the election. I

0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.640
<v Speaker 1>bet you all five hundred and thirty five of them

0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.040
<v Speaker 1>are gonna ask what do you got? And they will remember.

0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:08.600
<v Speaker 1>This is now post the the DNC email dumped by

0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Wiki leaks that led to the firing of Debbie Wasserman, Schultz, etc. Etc.

0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.959
<v Speaker 1>And tons of speculation Who's going to do? What went?

0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.079
<v Speaker 1>And there is there more you know, smoking guns that

0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.679
<v Speaker 1>are been coming out. Who knows? But the question is, well,

0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.839
<v Speaker 1>we don't know, but where is the crime? If you

0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.160
<v Speaker 1>think that there's information available. I'm going to get into

0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.840
<v Speaker 1>this through the historical judicial precedent of the Pentagon papers

0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.560
<v Speaker 1>because it really I think fits in this particular case,

0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.959
<v Speaker 1>and honestly, I think it's the best thing that could happen.

0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:48.320
<v Speaker 1>And why they never asked Wiki leaks to provide where

0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.959
<v Speaker 1>they got the information from is beyond any comprehension. I

0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.679
<v Speaker 1>have also only because I interviewed Asana went out to

0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:00.240
<v Speaker 1>the Ecuadorian embassy in London and I was there and

0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I interviewed him and he's very clear. I'll play his

0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.199
<v Speaker 1>answers later about this not being from Russia or a

0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.840
<v Speaker 1>third party. Now I have intel sources that say well,

0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was a third party Russian cutout, but it

0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.880
<v Speaker 1>still came from Russia or whatever. Well does that mean?

0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, the Pentagon papers were stolen too, and they

0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.520
<v Speaker 1>were published by the New York Times, and they were

0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.320
<v Speaker 1>published by the Washington Post. And by the way, so

0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was the Wiki leaks emails as well, published by most

0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.280
<v Speaker 1>of these publications. So why would anyone be in trouble

0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.680
<v Speaker 1>if they were looking or to try to ascertain whether

0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.640
<v Speaker 1>or not this information about an opponent. And if it's

0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.160
<v Speaker 1>stolen and you didn't encourage the stealing, which would be

0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:43.240
<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy, And if it's stolen and you know, like

0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it was in the Pentagon paper case, it apparently doesn't

0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.280
<v Speaker 1>make a difference if you're publishing it for informational purposes

0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.800
<v Speaker 1>as some type of vote journalism. He let me tell

0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you something about smoking. Guess what. It's not about politics,

0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it's about people. Now they're about thirty eight million America?

0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Is that smoke? And I want to tell you about

0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.760
<v Speaker 1>my experience switching to jewel. I used to smoke cigars.

0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I smoked them regularly. I even inhaled them at times.

0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Not good. Everyone in my family growing up, they all

0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.400
<v Speaker 1>smoked and Now that I've made the switch to Jewel,

0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.920
<v Speaker 1>guess what I have found the best alternative ever. Now

0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Jewel is designed with smokers in mind in terms of

0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:27.000
<v Speaker 1>its form technology. It's simple to use, no buttons, no switches.

0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.480
<v Speaker 1>It is the satisfying alternative now for one in eight

0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.120
<v Speaker 1>American adults who like nicotine like me. Now to discover

0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the smoking alternative that's nothing like any e sig or

0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.240
<v Speaker 1>vape you've ever tried. Just go to Jewel dot com,

0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:47.640
<v Speaker 1>slash switch America. That's Juul dot com slash switch America

0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and learn more information at ju uel dot com slash

0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.240
<v Speaker 1>switch America. All right, as we roll along Sean Hannity Show.

0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, Roger Stone is gonna check in, also Andy McCarthy,

0:15:58.240 --> 0:15:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Greg Jared. Neither one of them think that there's any

0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:05.000
<v Speaker 1>underlying crime. And what's fascinating is, you know, if Corsie

0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.040
<v Speaker 1>is saying, I'm not going to sign a plead deal

0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that would prevent him from otherwise likely going to jail,

0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.680
<v Speaker 1>because that's what the threat is. Either. You know Michael

0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Flynn when he agreed to the plead deal, which was

0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that he lied to the FBI. Remember, none of the

0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.880
<v Speaker 1>FBI agents nor James Comey nor Peter Struck, who was

0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the agents that interviewed him, thought he lied.

0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.560
<v Speaker 1>But here's a guy he's facing, you know, literally bankruptcy,

0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.360
<v Speaker 1>having to sell his house. By the way, thanks for

0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.760
<v Speaker 1>serving your country over three decades. This is how we

0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.920
<v Speaker 1>pay you back, and probably the threat of well, your

0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.880
<v Speaker 1>sons in business with you. We're gonna have to be

0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.560
<v Speaker 1>bringing him into this as well. And any loving father's

0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.440
<v Speaker 1>going to take the sword and fall on it fast,

0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.920
<v Speaker 1>whether it's the truth or not the truth. And Corsie

0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.280
<v Speaker 1>is saying, no, I'm not going to do it, and

0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that means that probably if he if he would willingly

0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.240
<v Speaker 1>take the deal, the plea deal offered by Mueller, that

0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.120
<v Speaker 1>would mean he doesn't have to worry for the rest

0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of his life, which also included partial immunity. According to

0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:14.479
<v Speaker 1>what he's saying. Paul Manafort cooperating witness of Muller. Now

0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:20.480
<v Speaker 1>we find out both Corsi and Manafort have cooperation deals

0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.399
<v Speaker 1>with the President's attorney with the White House. And the

0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:28.399
<v Speaker 1>point is Manafort now being accused by Robert Muller in

0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:32.119
<v Speaker 1>this particular case, of violating the plea deal that they

0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.600
<v Speaker 1>had and also sharing the information. What's Mueller looking for?

0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 1>So Muller's now turning and tightening the screws on Corsi

0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and on Manafort. Looks like, you know, Ecuador may turnover

0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Julian Osange. By the way, he would be the one

0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.920
<v Speaker 1>guy that knows where all this information originated from, wouldn't he?

0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:51.720
<v Speaker 1>All right? Twenty five un till the top of the

0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.960
<v Speaker 1>hour eight hundred nine f one, Sean, if you want

0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.639
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of the program, just stick with

0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.320
<v Speaker 1>me here. I know this gets a little complicated, little

0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.399
<v Speaker 1>bit in the weeds, but it is worth the deep dive,

0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:08.040
<v Speaker 1>especially knowing that the Special Counsel never had real interest

0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.440
<v Speaker 1>in Russia collusion, because if they did, they would have

0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.280
<v Speaker 1>been very involved. And let's see the exoneration of Hillary

0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:19.600
<v Speaker 1>before the investigation, and then the same people that said, oh,

0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Hillary should win one hundred million to nothing, you know,

0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.240
<v Speaker 1>go on this entire which hunt about Trump Russia collusion

0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and there's been no evidence. And then of course the

0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Clinton campaign funneling money to a law firm legal costs

0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.359
<v Speaker 1>that it's not fed to a research group Fusion GPS,

0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.560
<v Speaker 1>hiring a foreign national Christopher Steele, Christopher Steele. Then of

0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.720
<v Speaker 1>course putting together a series of papers that then become

0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.800
<v Speaker 1>known as the dossier. The dossier's full of Hillary Clinton

0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.880
<v Speaker 1>bought and paid for Russian lies, none of it verified,

0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.360
<v Speaker 1>none of it corroborated. Even Christopher Steele in an interrogatory

0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.520
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't and by his own writing in his own

0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.560
<v Speaker 1>allegations under the threat of perjury, Oh no, this is

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.480
<v Speaker 1>just raw intelligence, maybe fifty fifty. None of it is

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.240
<v Speaker 1>true that I know of. I can't say for sure. Well,

0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.600
<v Speaker 1>then how did that then get used by in that

0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.560
<v Speaker 1>particular case, used by the used to obtain FISA warrants

0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.800
<v Speaker 1>by the FBI and the Department of Justice. The bulk

0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.240
<v Speaker 1>of information coming from the Clinton bought and paid for

0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Russian lying dossier, and they present it to a FISA court, unverified, uncorroborated,

0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and now debunked by even its own author, never telling

0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the court, meaning the FISA Court judges as they're committing

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:42.160
<v Speaker 1>fraud on the court Grassley Graham memo, Nunez memo. Bulk

0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.879
<v Speaker 1>of information is what was in the FISA applications. So

0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.159
<v Speaker 1>they commit a fraud on the court. They get it

0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to spy on a former Trump campaign chairman or advisor,

0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 1>a non paid by the name of Carter Page. Then

0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:00.119
<v Speaker 1>it's disseminated as outright truth to the American people for

0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixteen election. That's called propagandizing. That's called lying.

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:10.080
<v Speaker 1>That's Russian lies, paid for by Hillary to misinform purposely

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the American people that Donald Trump, you had two hookers

0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:18.080
<v Speaker 1>in the Moscow rits urinating on his bed. This is

0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.160
<v Speaker 1>where this has all gone to. And if we cared

0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:26.240
<v Speaker 1>about Russian influence, if we cared about Russian chaos, if

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.960
<v Speaker 1>we cared about Russian collusion, they would also to have

0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.359
<v Speaker 1>been investigating all of this, which they never have and

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.560
<v Speaker 1>probably never will. Lindsey Graham says he is going to

0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 1>get to the bottom of it in the next congressional session,

0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.879
<v Speaker 1>especially if House Democrats do what I predict they're gonna do,

0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be destroy Trump every second, every minute,

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 1>every hour of every day. But that's where the double standard,

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a dual system of justice, no equal justice under the law,

0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:56.200
<v Speaker 1>no equal application of our laws. And then even further,

0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:01.119
<v Speaker 1>this information is used by top officials fbideal J. Bruce

0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Or at the Department of Justice, demoted twice his wife Nelly,

0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.679
<v Speaker 1>working for Fusion GPS putting all those crap together. But anyway,

0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 1>he's still in contact with Christopher Steele. We have three

0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.920
<v Speaker 1>O two's that have yet to be released. Then we

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 1>learned through struck page messages that they had a media

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.200
<v Speaker 1>leak strategy, and it was a circular leak strategy, which

0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:25.360
<v Speaker 1>means that they take the same phony Russian dossier that's

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.680
<v Speaker 1>not verified, and they start feeding portions of it to

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the media, and then you then can make the case. Look,

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 1>it's reported here, and it's reported there, and it's reported

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 1>over here, and people see it. Look at all the

0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.879
<v Speaker 1>different sourcing on this, but it's all one source, and

0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the one sources Christopher Steele's dossier. And then, of course

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the insurance policy comes in because this then becomes well,

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.560
<v Speaker 1>if five chance of forty year old drops oat of

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 1>a heart attack, you want life insurance. Well, the insurance

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.720
<v Speaker 1>plan in this case is well, Trump's never gonna win,

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 1>but if he does, we've got Plan B the insurance.

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:02.440
<v Speaker 1>They didn't care about any of that, So it's like

0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.720
<v Speaker 1>they don't care. They cared about the issues that they

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.040
<v Speaker 1>so passionately cared about when it's to take down a

0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Republican justice. Kavanaugh boy they're all over. I believe, I believe.

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Do they believe Keith Ellison's accuser? How come they never

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 1>believed any of the accusers of Bill Clinton, the many

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of them, including the charge of rape and groping and

0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 1>fondling and touching and kissing against a woman's will in

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the Oval Office, Kathleen Willie or exposing himself as then

0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas Attorney General to Paula Jones and saying kiss it

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever else that he ended up losing that case and

0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:40.040
<v Speaker 1>his law license, and he was impeached over it. So

0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.680
<v Speaker 1>you know there's gonna be a lot happening, So stick

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>with me here. So what you've got is you've gotten

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>now two and one more on the record. Roger Stone

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>is quoted in the American Spectator and say, I'm innocent.

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking a deal. If Muller offers me one now,

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Roger Stone will join us at the top of the

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:02.560
<v Speaker 1>next hour. But what you've not here is, obviously, remember,

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Judge Ellis, you're gonna put the screws to Manafort in

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>the hopes that he sings or he composes, so then

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:12.679
<v Speaker 1>you can either impeach or hurt Donald Trump. Whole purpose

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of going after somebody's lone application forms from years ago,

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>or a tax violation that had already been put to

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>rest in the Department of Justice. All right, he found guilty,

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 1>he works on a cooperation deal that blows up, and

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:32.720
<v Speaker 1>now Corsi and in the case of Manaphort, two guys

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that are basically saying I'm not gonna lie. We call

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>it testa lying. In other words, that you sit there

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's obvious if you tell us this, we'll get

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 1>We'll go easy on you for cooperating with us. If

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you say these things, you'll spend less time in jail,

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe no time in jail, but you gotta give us

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>what we want to hear. And then people say, you

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>know what, in the case of both of those men,

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 1>they're older men. That's the rest of their life in jail.

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>So often prosecutors, in their zealousness, they lose any sense

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of proportionality, perspective, or prosecutorial discretion. They don't think they're lived.

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.639
<v Speaker 1>They don't really seem to remember that these are real people,

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 1>real lives that they're destroying. Forget that General Flynn served

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>his country with honor and distinction for over three decades

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of his life and Nobody in the FBI thought he

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>lied when he was questioned. Nobody, So how did he

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>come to the plea deal admitting that he lied? Well,

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:39.880
<v Speaker 1>they basically said, well, first of all, he's getting bankrupt.

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>You don't make a lot of money when you're in

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the armed services, serving your country your whole life. So

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>now he has to sell his house. And then I'm

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty certain good educated guests knowing how some of these

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>prosecutors work, having read License to Live by Sydney Powell,

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:57.919
<v Speaker 1>especially how Weissman and company work. Oh, we're just going

0:24:57.960 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>to have to go after your son. I know he

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 1>was in business with its sad. Well, you know what's

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>he gonna do? What would you do if it's your kid,

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna dive on the sword and die for your kid.

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>That's what you're gonna do. And that's what I think

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>happened in his case. Or Papadopoulos, who's been more than

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>angry leading up to his two weeks in jail. Will

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>be interesting to see what he says when he gets out.

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 1>So you got Muellers now tightening the screws on both corsi,

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, saying that Manaport violated the cooperation deal, Corsi

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>is a friend of Roger Stone who joins us at

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the top of the hour. So charges apparently appear imminent.

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>We're not sure. Actually, I think why if they ever

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know. I flew to the Ecuadorian embassy in

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Great Britain. I flew there in one day and I

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 1>flew back the same day, and I interviewed asan Jin

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>January is seventeen. We asked him on radio, We've asked

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>them on TV did he get this from Russia or

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Russian sources or people connected to Russia as the Multiple

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>times he said, well, we'll play it later, So now

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>he might be out, but he would be And I've

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>known this has been a puzzling question in my mind.

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>If you want to know where did he get the

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 1>information from? And I know some intel people say absolutely

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>it was Russia, absolutely? Or was it Russia or was

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it a third party representative or cut out for Russia

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that maybe he knew or didn't know, was a third

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>party cut out or was it something altogether different? Who knows?

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>But I would assume that there's some type of evidence,

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>considering it had to be electronically transferred uploaded to the

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>wiki League Sosange computer at some point, so we'll see

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>what happens in that particular case. Now we have reports

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>that the Russian spy and this this Maria Boutina woman

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>is reportedly in talks for a plea deal. He got

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a number of Mueller's prosecutors even working on Veterans Day,

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>and that's when Michael Cohen had taken the train to

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Washington to talk to Mueller's team. ABC reporting that an

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>unusually high number, maybe three dozen sealed indictments have been

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>filed over the course of the last year in DC.

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Fourteen of those have been added just since August, and

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>that's when Mueller's investigation was publicly quiet. One thing they

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>did do is they didn't get involved in the election.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 1>But we'll see. The President did turn in his long

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>awaited written answers to Mueller's investigations, or at least a

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>version of it that's locked in. And Trump, you know

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>what the media will tell you well that he's tacitly

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>acknowledging Mueller's at thirty President said repeatedly he's not going

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>to stop Muller. And my prediction is is that Mueller

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to be exactly the person we thought he was,

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>He's going to go in and try and damage, destroy, delegitimize,

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>hurt Donald Trump as much as he can. So that

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.639
<v Speaker 1>I've never had any doubt based on the team that

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>he's put together. How do you hire Hillary Clinton's former attorney?

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>How do you never hire a single Republican as part

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>of this group? How do you hire Andrew Weissman who

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 1>was at Hillary's big victory party and writing what was

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the woman's name that was fired by the press? Ally Yates,

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, saying great job, great job. The guy with

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Enron losing tens of thousands of job NINEO in the

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court, losing putting innocent people in jail. Merrill executives

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 1>four years only to be overturned by the Fifth Circuit.

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>There wasn't a year of his life in jail that

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:43.239
<v Speaker 1>he can never get back. So as you look at

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the timeline and the silence, I don't think anybody fully

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>completely knows, but it's obvious that they're asking questions of

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>again about the Trump Tower meeting, and based on the

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>court filing earlier in the week, Muller apparently hopes this

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, issue to issue in a report on mat

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Affords activities. To the court, so we'll find out what

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>violation he might be involved in. It's just a lawyer

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>for Paul Manafort, you know. Apparently they were had a

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>cooperation agreement with the White Houses lawyers, and so I

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>guess in that particular case, Manafort agreed to cooperate with

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the special counsel. Rudy Giuliani acknowledging the arrangement yesterday, defending it,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.959
<v Speaker 1>saying it gave Trump's legal team insights into what Mueller's

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>investigations about what are they looking for, and two other

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>people familiar with the conversations confirmed the arrangement to The

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>New York Times, it appears course he had the same arrangement,

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and the Times noted that some legal experts believed that

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>this could have been a bid by Manafort for a pardon.

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>That speculation, and there was one report yesterday that said

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that that wouldn't even be, you know, completely possible as

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it relates to state charges where it wouldn't be applicable

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a pardon. And Manafort's attorney, Kevin Downing, met with Trump's

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>legal team. But you don't break any laws if you

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>have a joint defense agreement. That's allowed anyway, So you know,

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>julianni has said Mueller's zealed to get Trump is prompting

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>him to push witnesses to lie. That's what's happening here. Now,

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>you think about it. If you're facing you're seventy years old,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you're facing, however, many years in prison. How appealing it

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>must be. Is you sit at a table and they say,

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>come on, you know, you know what we want you

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to say. If you say it, we're gonna go real easy.

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna your life's gonna be golden. You'll be maybe

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a year max, maybe six months max. Yeah, we'll even

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>fight for probation for you, or you might die in prison.

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>The fact that neither one of these guys was willing

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to take that, that is amazing to me. And you know,

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>as you have Stone campaign advisor Roger Stone releasing documents

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>showing that as the presidential campaign heated up in twenty

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>sixteen in the summer, this is after the DNC convention,

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>when I guess the first batch of wiki leaks information

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>came out. Stone tried to dispatch, in this particular case,

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>his friend Jerome Corsi into finding what does wiki leaks

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>even know? Because that might be damaging that Hillary. I

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>was talking to Andy McCarthy today, said, well, guess one thing,

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not It's not a crime. So that's why, Well,

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>now we got to go after a perjury charge because

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Corsi said in an interview that he might be indicted

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>on the charge of ligne to federal investigators because he

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>told them he refused Stone's request, when in fact he

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>passed it on to an intermediary. This is going back

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to twenty sixteen. Does anybody know what you did in

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen. I can't even tell you what I did

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>last week or what I even talked about yesterday on

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>this program. I'm just going at the speed of light

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>every day. And it's how do you remember what you

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>did or set in twenty sea You forget something that's perjury? No,

0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's called having a normal memory. Anyway. So

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the draft statement against Corsi, which apparently they were informed

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>about and people familiar with it or reporting about it.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>The New York Times had it, The Wall Street Journal

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>had it, in other places have it. Spectator had a

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>good article today and they're saying that in it, prosecutors

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>are claiming that Corsi understood that Stone was in regular

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>contact with senior members of the Trump campaign, including with

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>then Donald candidate Donald Trump. Now I think he got

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>off the campaign or advisement in twenty fifteen. Whether or

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>not he talked to Trump, I have no idea, but

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>we'll ask him because one of the questions leaked is that, well,

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>did you have any contact with Roger Stone about Julian

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Assange and to get that information. I don't even think

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Trump knew about Julian Osange and the information or had

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>any understanding of what it was. To be honest, he

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in this political world, deep weed world we live

0:32:56.320 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>in sometimes and that there might be events that, you know,

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>at the end of this then we're finding out all

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>these you know, secret criminal complaints are out there and

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>indictments are out there. Who knows. I've never trusted this honor.

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>About July twenty fifth, twenty sixteen, person one send an

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>email to Corsi. That would be Roger Stone, who's going

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to join us? Get the founder of organization one. Get

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>to the founder of the organization one at the Ecuadorian

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Embassy in London. Gee, I wonder who that is? And

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>get pending organization one emails. They deal with the foundation

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>allegedly Okay, how's that different from the Pentagon papers published

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>by both the New York Times and the Washington Post

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that were illegally obtained. They did it, and by the way,

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>most of these newspapers published the same thing. Wiki Leaks published,

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Where's the crime? Where's the collusion? Unbelievable? Right, gladuate us

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred nine for one Sean.

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>You want to be a part of the program. So

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>as now we know that the president has submitted written

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 1>answers what nearly six hundred days into this Mueller witch hunt,

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that, of course they're not really looking

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>for collusion, they're just looking for Trump Russia collusion. So

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>far no evidence, but in the final waning hours, days, months,

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>clearly some form of desperation has set in. What's been

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>most fascinating is that Jerome Corsi has himself said that

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>he was offered a plea deal that even could result

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in probation no time in jail, and he has rejected it. Similarly,

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>we now heard from Robert Muller that the plea deal

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>that they had, the arrangement that they had with Paul

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Manafort all the same thing. There he has well, and

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>in both cases, by the way, they have joint defense

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>agreements with the counsel of the White House, which has

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a pretty fascinating development and makes a lot of sense

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at it from the presid in point

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>of view, the White House's point of view. But now

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it seems to be coming down to two people, and

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that would be Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi. And you know, supposedly,

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>if you believe NBC News, Muller says he has emails

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>from Corsi about the Wiki leaks, Democratic email dump. Now,

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know many other people in the media besides

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>myself who's actually taken the time to get in an airplane,

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>fly across the pond and sit down and talk to

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Julian Assange himself. I was very specific. I wanted to

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>know where this information came from. Did it come from Russia? Now,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, I've had people in the intel community

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>say that they're convinced, they know it's a certainty you

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that at least was Russia or Russian cutout. But that's

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>not what Asan said, And let's listen to part of

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 1>that interview. Russia give you this information or anybody associated

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>with Russia. Our source is not a state party. So

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the answer for our interactions is no, you did not

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>get this information about the DNC John Podesta's emails. Can

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you tell the American people a thousand percent you did

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>not get it from Russia or anybody associated with Russia.

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 1>We can say, we have said repeatedly over the last

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:29.240
<v Speaker 1>two months that our source is not the Russian government

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and it is not the state party. Our source is

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>not the Russian government. So in other words, let me

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>be clear, Russia did not give you the Podesta documents

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>or anything from the DNC. Correct. All right? Joining us

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>now is Rogers Stone. By the way, Stone's Rules a

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>best seller, and Roger also quoted as saying in the

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>American Spectator today, I'm innocent. I wouldn't take a deal

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.720
<v Speaker 1>of Muller offered me one. Roger, welcome back to the program.

0:36:57.840 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for being with us, Thanks Sean for having me.

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I've got to imagine that there's a lot of pressure

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>in your life right now. We keep hearing that obviously

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Robert Muller is after you and after Jerome Corsi. Why

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>don't I just generally give it to you and tell

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>our audience what you think is actually going on here. Well, soan,

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I think I've been targeted because I

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>supported Donald Trump for president. I helped defeat Hillary Clinton.

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 1>But I violated no law regarding the twenty sixteen election

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>or anything else. And the idea that I knew about

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.879
<v Speaker 1>the source or the content of the wiki least disclosures,

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:41.280
<v Speaker 1>whether they were allegedly hacked emails or allegedly stolen emails

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 1>of John Podesta, is simply false. I had a tipster

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>who told me that after Assange went on CNN in

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>June and Fox in August and said that he had

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a trove of documents on Hillary Clinton, I had a

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>tipster to tell me that they were devastating, a bombshell

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>incredible would end Hillary's campaign, and that they would be

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>published in October. And I provided text messages only last

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>week that proved that that source was Randy Kretico, a

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>New York based progressive radio talk show host, and that

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>his source was not Julie Assange, but a woman attorney

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>who works for Wiki Lakes. So now suddenly the media

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to talk about Randy Cretico anymore. Now suddenly

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>they have a new narrative, which is the idea that

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I must have received these documents, either Podesta's emails or

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the DNC emails from Jerry Corsi. That is also false.

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>The emails that the Wall Street Journal and others refer

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to are not a smoking gun. There's no smoking gun

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>there at all, unless political gossip has now been criminalized.

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Corsi predict that there are disclosures coming from WikiLeaks, and

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.479
<v Speaker 1>he makes an oblique reference to the American people learning

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>more about the podestas. No where does it refer to

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Podesta's emails being stolen. So I thought this was about

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>rushing collusion. I thought it was about WikiLeaks collaboration. I

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>think we learned a long time ago. I think to

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 1>be about a country trap for a seventy two year

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>old man. You know. Let me refer to the Wall

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Street Journal. They talk about your tweet on August the

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty first, that said, trust me, it will soon the

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Podesta's time in the barrel. That's how I read it.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Verbade him from their piece, not my words. And then

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>weeks later, emails from Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta were

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>dumped online by wiki leaks, And I think we got

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>to also put in a context a little bit of

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the timeline, because it was on the eve of the

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Democratic Convention when we got the DNC emails, correct the

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>first ones. I think that's correct. But the significance here

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>is that doctor Corsi appears to have been pressured to

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>say that my claim that that tweet was based on

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>his briefing of me about the Podesta brothers lucrative Russian

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>business dealings in gas, in aluminum and uranium and banking

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that I asked him to write a memo about so

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that I could retail it two reporters, was somehow a

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>cover story. Well, let's let's examine that my tweet was

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>not controversial for six weeks later, when the Podesta emails

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 1>were finally published. There was no congressional investigation, There was

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>no Muther investigation, there was no subpoenas, there was no

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>media attention, there was no media controversy. So cover up

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:55.720
<v Speaker 1>for what? Why did they quote Corsi here? Jerome Corsi

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>is saying that, as a long time acquaintance of yours,

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>that he's contradicting your version of events, saying in an

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>interview Tuesday that you called him on August thirty a,

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, nine days after the tweet and asked Corsi

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 1>for help in creating an alternative explanation for it. What

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>does that mean? That means that you had a seventy

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.720
<v Speaker 1>two year old man who was hot boxed by mother's

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>investigators for forty hours? Is what had that happened by

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that time? By the time, he only said that recently

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 1>at that time. First of all, he told me about

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the Podestas and their extensive Russian disiness dealings prior to

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the twenty first. It took him until the thirty first

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to get me the memo. Then he subsequently asked me

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>several times in text messages and emails whether I had

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>been successful in selling it to any reporters, which was

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the purpose of it. So there is no need for

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>a cover up story. Nothing we've done is illegal number one.

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And he says that he told me that he had

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>deduced that John Podesta's emails had been stolen, but he

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>does not do so in email or text message. He

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>says it was a phone call which he now remembers,

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>which I don't remember because frankly I never knew that

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>until it was published. Well, it's what's weird about that article, though,

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>is when he says what I construct, what I testified

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>too before the grand jury, was that I believed I

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 1>was creating a cover story for Roger because Roger wanted

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to explain this tweet. And then he went on to

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 1>say something quite chilling to me and anybody that believes

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>in the constitution and civil liberties, that he believed that

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the Special counsel knew this because they could virtually tell

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>my keystrokes on the computer. That's a little that's a

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>little scary, big brother scenario to me. Well, look, five

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 1>days before the famous Podesta tweet, and which, by the way,

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media always drops the word v V. Podesta's

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>shown refers to two people, John and Tony, but by

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>dropping the word Z you can imply that it's a

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>reference to John Podesta's emails being published. Shows you the

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.800
<v Speaker 1>dishonesty of the Wall Street Journal, for example. You know

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 1>what's amazing knowing this and on this as well. But

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>five days prior, I put out a tweet that says,

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Paul Manafort makes John Podesta no part of me. John

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Podesta makes Paul Manafort look like Saint Thomas Aquinas. Why

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>hasn't he been investigated Because apparently the same type of

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:30.320
<v Speaker 1>business and business dealings and lack of I guess the

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>requirement as it relates to, you know, foreign if you're

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:36.879
<v Speaker 1>doing any work politically for foreign countries. Did he did

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>he register as such an agent with the federal government.

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I understand your question. In other words,

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>we have the far laws which they were making a

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:48.919
<v Speaker 1>big deal with Manafort. Is Tony Podesta up to speed

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>on that? Did he do it all those years? Is

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>violated the same law that Manafort has been convicted of violating.

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>He didn't file under a FIRO registration either, but he

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been prosecuted. Isn't that strange? Yeah, you know, I

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>find it interesting that Jerome Corsi and I really got

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to know him when he did he was part of

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the I think it was James O'Neill, and they did

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Unfit for Command, a book about John Kerry and all

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the things that Kerry had said about as fellow Vietnam vets.

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I know he takes some kind of bizarre positions on

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the moon landing and so on and so forth. Putting

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 1>that aside for a minute, but when you have two

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>people that know as and they're both older people, Paul

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Manafort who I got to know during the campaign, and

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Jerome Corsi that they're both offered. In the case of

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Corsi and reports, maybe he just gets probation if he

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>says what Weissman and Mueller's team want him to say,

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and he said, no deal, I'm not gonna lie, and

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>then Manafort seemingly did the same thing. That means that

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>they both might face the rest of their lives in jail.

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And they could have easily, you know, extricated themselves from

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 1>that and given them what they wanted, and they would

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>have benefited a lot personally by doing so. Absolutely accurate. Look,

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel badly for doctor Corcy, who I liked very much,

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>but I think he has been squeezed into giving them something.

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.280
<v Speaker 1>And the two things he has said about me are incorrect,

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the other ones even more incredible. He claims that I

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>had advanced notice of the so called Billie Bush NBC

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>grabbed them by the you Know What tape, and that

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I asked him, for whatever reason, to contact Julian Assange

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to tell Wiki Leaks to speed up the release of

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>their documents to distract from that story. Sean, that is

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 1>whole cloth. I knew nothing about this at advance. I

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>was stunned when I heard about it. I was on

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the street in Manhattan. I heard about it around four

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the afternoon. I rushed to a computer to

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>read the Washington Post story on it because I heard

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>they had broken the story. So again, he has no

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 1>evidence of this other than the fact that we evidently

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>spoke on the phone that day. But that proves nothing.

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 1>How do we reconcile though, how do we reconcile the

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>julian Is Sans who published these things? Weren't they also

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 1>published in the New York Times exactly? In fact, as

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Sane was asked about Roger Stone, he said, while he

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 1>is a cunning spinmaster, we've had no communication with him whatsoever.

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 1>So I think mister Muller in trying to find somebody

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>in the Trump orbit who received emails either stolen or

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>hacked and passed them on to the candidate, and that

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>just never happened. Here's what I never understood in all

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>of this Wikileakssans, Corsi, Goosfer, you name it. It just

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 1>never happened. Here's something that I have been very puzzled.

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>If they really wanted to get to the bottom of

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>was there any connection to Wiki leaks and the releases

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that they've had in the lead up to the twenty

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 1>sixteen election. I've got to imagine, and I've always felt

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that the person that could give them the most honest answer,

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:57.399
<v Speaker 1>probably with some real hardcore evidence, would be Julian Asange. Now,

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>to the best of my knowledge, I don't know, but

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>all they're interested in doing with him is extraditing him

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.839
<v Speaker 1>and convicting him for doing exactly what the New York

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Times and the Washington Post in the Wall Street Journal do,

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>which is getting information from whistleblowers and publishing it. That's

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 1>what journalists do. Not long ago, we were all celebrating

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post in this movie, the Post celebrating their

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>publication of the classified documents, the Pentagon Papers, about the

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>origins of the Vietnam War. So the left holds that

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:32.479
<v Speaker 1>out as a heroic act. But they would now want

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to send a Signe to prison for doing the exact

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>same thing. Seems to me to be a great deal

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 1>of hypocrisy there. I guess the question is what would

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 1>the crime be if you did know that something was

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be published. We do have a case called

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon Papers. If you recall, well, I'd have to

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.439
<v Speaker 1>be in the receipt of stolen material to have any

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:56.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of case made against me, and of course I wasn't.

0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I was trafficking in political information. And yeah, there's no question, Sean.

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I took a tip from Randy Kretico that the Asge

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>held material was significant, and I hyped it relentlessly on tweet,

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>not to aggrandize myself, not to suck up to the

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Trump campaign, but to try to drive voter and media

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>attention to the disclosures when they came, because I was

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>assured by somebody I thought nobody was talking about that

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 1>they would be devastating. You have you ever done this

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and been wrong? No? No, But I'll tell you what

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it is more amazing to me. Hold that thought, because

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll pick it up there. And we got a longer

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 1>segment on the other side, Roger Stone, his Bookston's Rules,

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>will get to that his relationship of the President much more.

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>On the other side eight hundred nine four one, Sean

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>told free telephone number, quick break right back, We'll continue

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 1>straight ahead, and they wanted I had nothing to hide.

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I gave them to him immediately, and for having forgotten

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>on day one, because I hadn't reviewed the emails, this

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>particular email about Ted Malick. I'm now being charged with

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>willfully and knowingly giving false information, which is nonsense. Do

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you think that your political views are playing a role

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 1>in the decision of the Special Council to charge you

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>with a felony? Yes? I think. And also, by the way,

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 1>they accused me of deleting emails and I told them

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 1>to restore. They restored the emails I supposedly deleted through

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the time machine. This is a political winch hunt, all right.

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>That was Jerome Corsi on Tucker Carlson Show the other night.

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred nine for one, Shawn is our number. You

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of the program. And we

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>now see that Jerome Corsi is rejected, according to his

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>home words, a plead deal with Robert Muller, saying that

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>he will not testify or admit to something he didn't

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 1>do and lie, even though the prosecution apparently in their

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 1>offers said they wouldn't oppose just a probation type of

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 1>punishment in that deal, which means that if Muller really

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>goes forward indicts Jerome Corsi, that he could face potentially

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the rest of his life in jail clearly a of

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the centers around Roger Stone, who's on our Newsmaker line,

0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>author of Stone's Rules. What do you make What did

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 1>you think of what he said there that the chargers

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a nonsense? And do you think both Paul Manaford and

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Jerome Corsi are both pretty much doing the same thing?

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 1>And that is refusing And I think I don't think

0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Michael Flynn the FBI didn't even think he lied Roger

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>They they thought he was telling the truth. But he

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 1>had no money, he had to sell his house, and

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 1>at that point they were probably squeezing his own family

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and threatening his own son who worked with him. So

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I imagine he finally, just like every father, said I'll

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 1>fall on the sword instead and signed onto something that

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the FBI didn't even believe he had done. That's lied

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to the FBI. Well, only ten days ago, Vanity Fair

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 1>had a headline that says Paul Manafort is dishing on

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Roger Stone. Well, obviously that's not true because and I

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 1>have to assume that they probably did question him vigorously,

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 1>but there's nothing to dish. I never got anything from

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Wiki leaks. I don't think Manaphort and I ever discussed.

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Wiki leaks is what's amazing Sean. At the same time,

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Democrats are demanding that Acting Attorney General Matthew Whittaker stepped

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>down because of his previous political activities. The prosecutor leading

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the inquisition into Roger Stone is Jeanie Ree, formerly the

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>lawyer for the Clinton Foundation, specifically in the matter of

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the Clinton emails, one of the matters in which I

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 1>am being falsely investigated. I know nothing about Hillary Clinton's

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 1>missing emails. Miss Rie is also a fifty four hundred

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>dollar donor to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. Now, I wrote

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.359
<v Speaker 1>the book The Clinton's War on Women, using a lot

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of the seminal research you did about the victims of

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton who were intimidated by Hillary. The point is

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 1>my position on the Clintons is well known. Having someone

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>who worked for the Clintons as a legal attack dog

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 1>heading the potential prosecution of Roger Stone is a far

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>more egregious conflict than anything Matthew Whittaker has. Let me

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 1>go back to what's happening with Jerome Corsi because it

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>does impact you and where where I think they're headed.

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:13.360
<v Speaker 1>In this and the draft court documents shared by Jerome Corsi,

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>written by Mueller's office to be filed in case of

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a plea. They quote emails from twenty sixteen. The Corsi

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 1>says that he exchanged with you and that is identified

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 1>in the documents person one and in emails the two

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 1>men discussed Wiki leaks and Julian Osange and their plans

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>to release emails damaging and Missus Clinton. The quote is

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>word is friend in embassy plans. Two more dumps Corsi

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 1>writing August second, referring to Julian Assange living in the

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Ecuadorian embassy in London. What now for almost seven years?

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:52.320
<v Speaker 1>One shortly after I back the second in October impact

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:55.480
<v Speaker 1>plan to be very damaging, and the documents and the

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Special Council's office alleging Corsi knowingly and intentionally made materially

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>all statements related to the emails. You know, it reminds

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:06.439
<v Speaker 1>me so many of so much of what has happened here.

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Go back to Martha Stewart and many other people. It's

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 1>they never get you for the underlying crime. And as

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 1>horrible as the charges were against Denny Haster, he didn't

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>get that. He never got charged with the underlying crime.

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 1>It's you get charged with lying, and I don't know

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the impact. What is your reaction to those emails that

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 1>they say they have and that refer to you. Well,

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 1>my lawyers, of course have reviewed the emails and their

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 1>characterization of them. I'd say they're miss characterized. I'd also

0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:37.439
<v Speaker 1>point out that Jerry Corsey then subsequently on October third,

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>both in the text message to me and in a tweet,

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:44.520
<v Speaker 1>says Osange has nothing. He was bluffing, he was full

0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:48.319
<v Speaker 1>of bs. So if he knew this was coming, why

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>then when Osange had his public event on October two,

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>it would be October third US time did he say

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that Ossange had nothing. I also have text messages from

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Jerry when the actual Wiki leagues data dumps are done

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in October, in which he's clearly reading the material for

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the first time. So those emails don't prove anything. They

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>certainly don't prove criminality on But I remember at the

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 1>time after the pre DNC emails released that there was

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.279
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of speculation all over the place that oh,

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:25.399
<v Speaker 1>there might be more, there might be more, what's gonna

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 1>come here, what's gonna come there? Remember, absolutely every politico

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and every political reporter in the country was following this

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>story and wanted to know unless legitimate political inquiry has

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 1>been criminalized. There's nothing in the emails between Jerry Corsi

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and I that is improper. The only thing that appears

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:47.719
<v Speaker 1>to be improper here is that they accused Jerry of

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:50.839
<v Speaker 1>erasing them, and then they accused him of lying them.

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But nor does it say John Podesta's emails have been

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>stolen and would be published. It doesn't say that. It

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.800
<v Speaker 1>says the American people will soon learn more about Podesta.

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 1>That's not the same thing. That's an inference, and that's

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:07.120
<v Speaker 1>quite a leap by the government. Now, how often I

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.839
<v Speaker 1>know you've known Donald Trump for forty years, you're also

0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>viewed and I think you know this is a very

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>controversial figure you have your whole career. I'd know that

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you weren't a part of the campaign, at least that

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I knew of at any point were you? Did you

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>talk to the then candidate at the time. I worked

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>for the campaign until August of twenty fifteen. I left

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the campaign to publish the Clinton's War on Women right,

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 1>And I think after that I worked as hard as

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 1>humanly possible to elect Donald Trump president. Not only did

0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I produce the documentary we talked about produced, the Clinton's

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 1>War on Women book. I did an enormous amount of

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.839
<v Speaker 1>surget speaking on behalf of the president. He was someone

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I've known intimately for forty years. He was at my wedding.

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I went to his parents wake and their funerals. I

0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 1>knew them both. They were wonderful people. I have a

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>real affection for Donald Trump and his family. So while

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I had no official role, I really do think I've

0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 1>been targeted because of my loyalty to the president and

0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 1>because of my role in helping defeat Hillary Clinton. Now,

0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:10.279
<v Speaker 1>in the course of when you left the campaign, you

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:12.400
<v Speaker 1>sound like you were very busy. Did you stay in

0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 1>touch with then candidate Trump. I spoke to him more

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:20.360
<v Speaker 1>in twenty fifteen and in the early part of twenty

0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 1>sixteen than I did at the end of the campaign, because, frankly,

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 1>once his platform was determined, and by the way, determined

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 1>by Donald Trump himself, not by Roger Stone, not by

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Steve Bannon, not by some polster. Donald Trump decides what

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 1>he's going to say, by the way, I can confirm

0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:42.719
<v Speaker 1>all of that is true. True, He listens, but then

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 1>he makes up his own mind. Yeah, he'll listen to

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 1>good advice. He'll ask tough questions. But nobody puts words

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 1>in this guy's mouth, nobody puts ideas in his head.

0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 1>He Donald Trump is responsible for Donald Trump's election more

0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.879
<v Speaker 1>so than any other individual on the face of the earth.

0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>He's not. There is no Carl Rove in Trump Land.

0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:07.400
<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't exist. So we kept in touch. We

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:10.879
<v Speaker 1>would talk sporadically. When the President calls you, he does

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:12.960
<v Speaker 1>most of the talking. You do most of the listening.

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>But we never spoke about wiki leagues, not once, which

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I said on Meet the Press. They asked me three times,

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Todd asked me. The answer was the same three times.

0:57:22.880 --> 0:57:26.400
<v Speaker 1>CNN has just reported that in the written questions from

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 1>mister Muller to the President, he was asked specifically, did

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you discuss wiki leagues with Rogerstone? And the President correctly

0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:37.520
<v Speaker 1>said no. And by the way, the President doesn't text,

0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and the president does an email that I know of,

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think he ever has. That's my take

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 1>on it. Where do you think this is gonna end?

0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe, like Paul Manafort, one morning there's gonna

0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>be a knock on your door and then they come

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I haven't committed any crime. I mean, even the emails

0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 1>that they cite in the QUERSI matter are not evidence

0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 1>of any crime on my part. So no, I really

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. If the decision is made on the

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>basis of facts and evidence and the law, then no

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 1>charges will be brought against you. But look at the

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 1>team that Mueller's put together. Look at Andrew Weissman's track record.

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.280
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Jeannie Ray earlier, who worked as the lawyer

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:20.000
<v Speaker 1>for the Clinton Foundation. Andrew Weissman. The New York Times

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:24.200
<v Speaker 1>dubbed him Mueller's pit bull. Let's see, he costs tens

0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of Americans their jobs at Enron Accounting back

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 1>in the day. He was overturned by the Supreme Court

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:34.600
<v Speaker 1>nine zero. He put four Merrill executives in jail for

0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a year that was overturned by the Fifth Circuit. And

0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 1>his tactics are you know, if you look at license

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:45.439
<v Speaker 1>to Lie Sidney Powell, you realize you've got somebody who's

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 1>been pretty rogue their entire lives, and that these tactics

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>are are pretty common. And you can indict a ham sandwich.

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 1>You know it, and I know it well. They can

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>certainly get an indictment. I think there's more public focus

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 1>on their activities in their partisanship now than there was

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:03.040
<v Speaker 1>even at the time that Paul Manifort went to trial. Sean, look,

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I have no choice but to fight. I set up

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a legal defense fund at Stone Defense Fund dot com

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 1>because this is this ravens to destroy me financially. I mean,

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 1>it literally can bankrupt my family. I don't know how

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pay for Christmas because every dollar I have

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:19.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to the lawyers. But I've defeated a defamation lawsuit.

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I had a lawsuit by an Obama backed group that

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 1>accused me of Russian collusion dismissed. I'm being sued along

0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:29.120
<v Speaker 1>with Jerry Kushner and Donald Trump Junior and the Trump

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 1>campaign and the Republican National Committee by that DNC. I've

0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:36.480
<v Speaker 1>asked to see their servers in discovery, and I'm very

0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:40.120
<v Speaker 1>happy about that. I still have they How did the

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 1>FBI and not take those servers? How did they get

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to bring in their own company? So I have the

0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:50.800
<v Speaker 1>US Senate Judiciary and Intelligence committees inquiries to deal with.

0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I have a newly energized Adam Schiff at the House

0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Intelligence Committee, who says he's reopening the investigation, and I

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 1>have the on rushing troops of Robert Muller. This threatens

1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to bankrupt me, so I had to set up Stone

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Defense fund dot Com to fight for my life. Let

1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:10.160
<v Speaker 1>me ask you in light of what we have been

1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:13.840
<v Speaker 1>able to uncover, and I'm pretty sure you're as aware

1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 1>as I am about all of these issues. You know,

1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like, if it's if it's Kavanaugh, Bret Democrats, Liberals,

1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:24.000
<v Speaker 1>they are dead set again. They're all for we believe

1:00:24.400 --> 1:00:27.880
<v Speaker 1>without any due process, any presumption of innocence, and that's why.

1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:30.720
<v Speaker 1>But yet if it's a Democrat Keith Ellison, Bill Clinton

1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:34.680
<v Speaker 1>more recently charges against Michael Abanati, they have no interest

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:36.960
<v Speaker 1>in ever talking about it, which tells me their interest

1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:40.800
<v Speaker 1>was only political against Kavanaugh. And similarly, if they really

1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:44.600
<v Speaker 1>cared about collusion with Russia, how do you ignore the

1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Clinton bought and paid for dossier that with funneled money

1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:51.480
<v Speaker 1>through a law firm, to an op research group, to

1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a foreign national Russian lies that he wouldn't even the author,

1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Steele, wouldn't even acknowledge to be true in an

1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:03.440
<v Speaker 1>inner sugatory in Great Britain under oath and threat of perjury.

1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:06.920
<v Speaker 1>How do you not get into those Russian lines disseminated

1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to the American people in the lead up to the

1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:11.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen election. I think you and I both understand

1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the entire Russian collusion delusion is meant as a distraction

1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:19.120
<v Speaker 1>from the largest political scandal in our country's history. And

1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:22.120
<v Speaker 1>that's an abuse of a power in which the surveillance

1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:26.000
<v Speaker 1>capability and authority of the state was used to spy

1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:28.920
<v Speaker 1>on Donald Trump's campaign. And there are more than one

1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:31.960
<v Speaker 1>fis A warrant. It's not just Carter Page. The New

1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:35.720
<v Speaker 1>York Times reported on January twenties, twenty seventeen, that Paul

1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Manifort and Roger Stone were also subjected to fis A warrants.

1:01:40.280 --> 1:01:42.840
<v Speaker 1>And when I file a Foyer request of thirty different

1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:46.320
<v Speaker 1>agencies of government, I get back nothing. Yeah, you'll get

1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:49.560
<v Speaker 1>that thirty years from now, when we're both get it. Never. Yeah.

1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:54.560
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the FBI efforts to infiltrate Donald Trump's campaign.

1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Well that's all true too. And look at what we've

1:01:57.840 --> 1:02:00.120
<v Speaker 1>got here, no evidence of collusion, but we do have

1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a bought and paid for phony dossier that was used

1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to propagandize in line of the American people. We have that,

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:09.400
<v Speaker 1>we do have Faiza Court fraud committed four separate times.

1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:12.680
<v Speaker 1>We do have an exoneration of Hillary with clear obstruction,

1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:17.320
<v Speaker 1>clear violation of the Espionage Act. That exoneration put in

1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:21.040
<v Speaker 1>written in May early May of twenty sixteen, and she

1:02:21.240 --> 1:02:24.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even interviewed nor with sixteen other main witnesses. And

1:02:24.880 --> 1:02:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I never heard of an exoneration written before investigation. And

1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think if I did what Hillary did to

1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:34.480
<v Speaker 1>subpoen at emails, delete them, acid washed the hard drive

1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and everything else, that I would survive. But we'll continue

1:02:37.280 --> 1:02:40.200
<v Speaker 1>more on the other side. Roger Stones, our guest, Stones

1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:43.400
<v Speaker 1>rules as his book, as we continue his journey now

1:02:43.480 --> 1:02:46.120
<v Speaker 1>as he awaits the actions of Robert Muller, quick break

1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:48.800
<v Speaker 1>right back, we'll continue. Well, So, and first of all,

1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:51.439
<v Speaker 1>I think I've been targeted because I supported Donald Trump

1:02:51.520 --> 1:02:55.600
<v Speaker 1>for president. I helped defeat Hillary Clinton. But I violated

1:02:55.880 --> 1:02:59.360
<v Speaker 1>no law regarding the twenty sixteen election or anything else.

1:03:00.320 --> 1:03:04.480
<v Speaker 1>And the idea that I knew about the source or

1:03:04.600 --> 1:03:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the content of the wiki, least disclosures whether they were

1:03:08.520 --> 1:03:12.360
<v Speaker 1>allegedly hacked emails or allegedly stolen emails of John Podesta

1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:17.480
<v Speaker 1>is simply false. I had a tipster who told me

1:03:18.000 --> 1:03:23.640
<v Speaker 1>that after Assange went on CNN in June and Fox

1:03:23.880 --> 1:03:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in August and said that he had a trove of

1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:29.520
<v Speaker 1>documents on Hillary Clinton, I had a tipster to tell

1:03:29.600 --> 1:03:34.600
<v Speaker 1>me that they were devastating, a bombshell, incredible, would end

1:03:34.720 --> 1:03:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Hillary's campaign, and that they would be published in October.

1:03:38.920 --> 1:03:42.840
<v Speaker 1>And I provided text messages only last week that proved

1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that that source was Randy Cretico, a New York based

1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:50.560
<v Speaker 1>progressive radio talk show host, and that his source was

1:03:50.640 --> 1:03:54.680
<v Speaker 1>not Julian Assange, but a woman attorney who works for

1:03:54.920 --> 1:03:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Wiki Lakes. So now suddenly the media doesn't want to

1:03:59.240 --> 1:04:03.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about critical anymore. Now suddenly they have a new narrative,

1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:08.440
<v Speaker 1>which is the idea that I must have received these documents,

1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:13.440
<v Speaker 1>either Podesta's emails or the DNC emails from Jerry Corsi.

1:04:14.200 --> 1:04:17.760
<v Speaker 1>That is also false. All right, that was just in

1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the last hour, Roger Stone. As now the mystery of

1:04:21.680 --> 1:04:26.120
<v Speaker 1>what is going on. Paul Manafort Julian Assange both denying

1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the Guardian report that they had met on three separate occasions,

1:04:30.240 --> 1:04:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Jerome Corsi saying He will not sign something that is

1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:36.560
<v Speaker 1>not true in some plea deal offered to him, he

1:04:36.600 --> 1:04:40.200
<v Speaker 1>claims by Robert Muller in connection with what he knew

1:04:40.280 --> 1:04:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and what he and Roger Stone were communicating about in

1:04:44.160 --> 1:04:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the lead up to the twenty sixteen presidential election. And

1:04:48.800 --> 1:04:51.440
<v Speaker 1>on top of all of that, we just have you

1:04:51.520 --> 1:04:53.720
<v Speaker 1>know what's going to happen next the President and put

1:04:53.760 --> 1:04:56.720
<v Speaker 1>out answers to specific questions, one of them apparently having

1:04:56.760 --> 1:04:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to do with whether or not the President had any

1:04:58.760 --> 1:05:03.120
<v Speaker 1>conversation with roger Stone about the issue of white what

1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:06.520
<v Speaker 1>might be released by Julian Assans. Roger Stone just telling

1:05:06.640 --> 1:05:10.560
<v Speaker 1>us moments ago that there was no such conversation, and

1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:13.720
<v Speaker 1>the President answered correctly. Anyway here to get to the

1:05:13.800 --> 1:05:16.640
<v Speaker 1>bottom of this are what are the legal aspects that

1:05:16.720 --> 1:05:21.120
<v Speaker 1>are in play here? Because when Robert Muller, if he's

1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:25.280
<v Speaker 1>offering Jerome Corsi, is Corsi claims some type of plea deal,

1:05:26.120 --> 1:05:29.600
<v Speaker 1>then that's interesting to one count of perjury or lying

1:05:29.800 --> 1:05:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in even the possibility of only probation. But he's not

1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:37.120
<v Speaker 1>going to sign something that's not true. Remember back, Lieutenant

1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:41.520
<v Speaker 1>General Flynn said, the FBI agents and James Comey himself

1:05:41.680 --> 1:05:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Peter Struck amongst them all did not believe he lied

1:05:45.160 --> 1:05:48.080
<v Speaker 1>to the FBI, but he was going bankrupt, had to

1:05:48.120 --> 1:05:50.400
<v Speaker 1>sell his house. I believe the screws would be interned

1:05:50.440 --> 1:05:53.439
<v Speaker 1>on him, probably pressuring him with some time for threat

1:05:53.480 --> 1:05:55.720
<v Speaker 1>against his son who he was in business with. This

1:05:55.880 --> 1:05:58.560
<v Speaker 1>happens all too often, and we call it, as my

1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:01.440
<v Speaker 1>friend Greg Jared, who joins us now calls it testa

1:06:01.720 --> 1:06:05.320
<v Speaker 1>lying say what they want. You get off with no sentence,

1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:09.280
<v Speaker 1>You get off with a light sentence. But both mana

1:06:09.400 --> 1:06:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Fort and Coursi are saying no, we're not going to

1:06:12.240 --> 1:06:16.040
<v Speaker 1>play that game. Also with us. Andy McCarthy, Fox News contributor,

1:06:16.120 --> 1:06:19.360
<v Speaker 1>columnist National Review, former, by the way, assistant US Attorney

1:06:19.400 --> 1:06:22.560
<v Speaker 1>for the Southern District of New York. Welcome both of you.

1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:25.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, Andy, we've gone back and forth about this,

1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it reminds me of like Sammy the

1:06:28.200 --> 1:06:31.680
<v Speaker 1>boll Gravano, who you know, he kills what eighteen nineteen

1:06:31.760 --> 1:06:34.640
<v Speaker 1>people and they make a deal and he doesn't go

1:06:34.720 --> 1:06:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to jail if he testifies against Gotti. How do you

1:06:38.720 --> 1:06:41.920
<v Speaker 1>trust the guy when you're bribing him with a get

1:06:41.960 --> 1:06:44.280
<v Speaker 1>out of jail free card. In that particular case, maybe

1:06:44.360 --> 1:06:48.160
<v Speaker 1>more dramatic, but do you see that happening here? Sean.

1:06:48.280 --> 1:06:52.200
<v Speaker 1>The vital difference between what you just described in terms

1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of Gravano and what we're dealing with here is that

1:06:57.080 --> 1:07:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Gravano actually played guilty to a crime, that is to say,

1:07:03.600 --> 1:07:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to a scheme, to a conspiracy. What a prosecutor does

1:07:07.720 --> 1:07:13.720
<v Speaker 1>in a real criminal case when the prosecutor has an

1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:18.560
<v Speaker 1>actual conspiracy that he's investigating, is he brings the cooperator

1:07:18.680 --> 1:07:23.640
<v Speaker 1>in and the cooperator testify or allocutes in his guilty

1:07:23.720 --> 1:07:27.360
<v Speaker 1>plea to the existence of the conspiracy. He says, here's

1:07:27.400 --> 1:07:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the crime that we agree to commit. I was a

1:07:30.840 --> 1:07:33.120
<v Speaker 1>member of the Gambino family at Costa No No Street.

1:07:33.160 --> 1:07:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Here was the boss, here was the under boss. This

1:07:35.600 --> 1:07:38.000
<v Speaker 1>is the crew I ran. These are the crimes I committed.

1:07:38.320 --> 1:07:41.640
<v Speaker 1>And that way you have the structure of the criminal enterprise.

1:07:42.160 --> 1:07:45.160
<v Speaker 1>You've got it all described, you have everybody's role in

1:07:45.240 --> 1:07:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it right here. What we're dealing with is an investigation

1:07:49.920 --> 1:07:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of no crime, so they don't have What they're doing

1:07:55.400 --> 1:08:00.880
<v Speaker 1>is they're investigating the scene underbelly of a k In politics,

1:08:00.960 --> 1:08:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the kind of stuff that goes on in campaigns and

1:08:04.600 --> 1:08:09.160
<v Speaker 1>even if Muller had his dream version of events. Here.

1:08:09.520 --> 1:08:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's say Wiki Leaks was in contact with Jerry Corsey,

1:08:13.960 --> 1:08:17.160
<v Speaker 1>who was in contact with Stone, who told the President

1:08:17.640 --> 1:08:22.599
<v Speaker 1>that they had Hillary Clinton or John Potesta's emails. What's

1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the crime because I don't think anybody knew it was there.

1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:29.280
<v Speaker 1>So this is important because I'm watching all of this

1:08:29.920 --> 1:08:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm asking myself, what is okay somebody says that

1:08:32.960 --> 1:08:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they have something that is damning OP research, It's going

1:08:36.680 --> 1:08:39.800
<v Speaker 1>to hurt the other party. Now, I think if four

1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:43.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred thirty five members of Congress one hundred US senators

1:08:43.520 --> 1:08:45.519
<v Speaker 1>get a phone call and the phone call says, no,

1:08:46.080 --> 1:08:49.800
<v Speaker 1>we got information that is damaging to your opponent, do

1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:52.599
<v Speaker 1>you agree with me? Probably all five hundred and thirty

1:08:52.600 --> 1:08:55.200
<v Speaker 1>five would say what do you got and go and

1:08:55.320 --> 1:08:58.320
<v Speaker 1>meet such a person. Of course they would, because that's

1:08:58.360 --> 1:09:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the way politics goes in America. But my point is

1:09:04.240 --> 1:09:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that they are criminalizing something that is not criminal activity.

1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:10.679
<v Speaker 1>That's the reason that they have to plead them guilty

1:09:10.760 --> 1:09:13.719
<v Speaker 1>to false statement counts. I agree with you that Sammy

1:09:13.840 --> 1:09:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Gravano got a disgraceful sentence, but at least he pled

1:09:16.880 --> 1:09:20.120
<v Speaker 1>guilty to racketeering at least he pled guilty to the

1:09:20.200 --> 1:09:24.120
<v Speaker 1>crime that they were investigating. Here, they're not investigating a crime,

1:09:24.600 --> 1:09:27.879
<v Speaker 1>so they have to plead everybody guilty to false statements

1:09:28.000 --> 1:09:31.519
<v Speaker 1>counts and sean. If you were a prosecutor building a

1:09:31.640 --> 1:09:34.760
<v Speaker 1>case that you intend to have a big bang at

1:09:34.800 --> 1:09:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the end, do you think the way you go about

1:09:37.160 --> 1:09:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that is to plead all your important witnesses to lying

1:09:40.400 --> 1:09:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to the FBI. You want to put people on the

1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:45.720
<v Speaker 1>stand that the first thing that the jury's going to hear,

1:09:45.760 --> 1:09:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and the most enduring thing they're going to hear, is

1:09:48.040 --> 1:09:50.400
<v Speaker 1>that the guy's a liar and can't be trusted. Nobody

1:09:50.479 --> 1:09:55.800
<v Speaker 1>builds a case that way. Greg Jarrett Well Durham, Course,

1:09:55.880 --> 1:09:59.519
<v Speaker 1>he sent me the plea offer that he received from

1:09:59.600 --> 1:10:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Robert Muller, and count number one false statement. It begins

1:10:04.400 --> 1:10:07.760
<v Speaker 1>by saying, Jerome, course, he did willfully and knowingly make

1:10:07.800 --> 1:10:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a materially false, fictitious, fraudulent statement to wit and then

1:10:12.320 --> 1:10:16.160
<v Speaker 1>identifies three things. He said, those three things are different

1:10:16.880 --> 1:10:20.800
<v Speaker 1>than emails that he have and a half, and the

1:10:20.920 --> 1:10:26.439
<v Speaker 1>lawyer responded, of course. He's lawyer responded by saying, my

1:10:26.640 --> 1:10:29.680
<v Speaker 1>client did not have the benefit of reviewing his emails

1:10:30.360 --> 1:10:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and once he did that, he amended his statements to

1:10:34.800 --> 1:10:39.600
<v Speaker 1>your office. And now you're asking him to admit that

1:10:39.680 --> 1:10:44.800
<v Speaker 1>he lied, when in fact, he simply didn't recall a

1:10:44.920 --> 1:10:49.160
<v Speaker 1>couple of the emails. He's seventy old. Look, I'm much younger.

1:10:49.280 --> 1:10:51.360
<v Speaker 1>If you asked me who was on my show next week,

1:10:52.080 --> 1:10:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I honestly don't think I could recall. I don't think

1:10:55.240 --> 1:10:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I would an example. So I went back because I

1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:04.719
<v Speaker 1>had some vague recollection that I wrote about wiki leaks

1:11:04.760 --> 1:11:08.800
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and sixteen during this summer, and I

1:11:09.000 --> 1:11:11.439
<v Speaker 1>research it. I go back through my emails, I go

1:11:11.600 --> 1:11:14.800
<v Speaker 1>through my column. I wrote a column which I don't

1:11:14.840 --> 1:11:18.439
<v Speaker 1>remember writing. And by the way, and do you know

1:11:18.600 --> 1:11:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that's true? Right? How does anyone remember what the hell

1:11:20.720 --> 1:11:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you did in twenty sixteen. I don't even know where

1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I was. It was having on emails and information that

1:11:29.320 --> 1:11:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I sent out trying to get the same information from

1:11:33.080 --> 1:11:36.160
<v Speaker 1>wiki leaks. Now I don't remember sending them. So if

1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I had testified yesterday, I'd be in the same position

1:11:39.960 --> 1:11:42.439
<v Speaker 1>as Jerome Corsi. I want to and do you want

1:11:42.439 --> 1:11:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to jump in on that? I just was going to

1:11:45.400 --> 1:11:48.720
<v Speaker 1>say that, uh, you know, I remember every word of

1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:51.639
<v Speaker 1>every column, and I expect everyone else to remember every word.

1:11:52.000 --> 1:11:56.240
<v Speaker 1>That's ridiculous. You do not anyway. But let's go back

1:11:56.280 --> 1:11:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to this document describing Corsis activities, and I want to

1:11:59.680 --> 1:12:02.200
<v Speaker 1>just as if it's a crime, it says honor about

1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:06.439
<v Speaker 1>July twenty fifth, twenty sixteen, person one, we believe now

1:12:06.520 --> 1:12:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to be Rogers Stone send an email to Corsi with

1:12:08.760 --> 1:12:12.519
<v Speaker 1>the subject line get to the founder of organization one

1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we believed to be Wiki leagues, meaning assange the body

1:12:16.200 --> 1:12:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of the message read get to the founder of the

1:12:18.720 --> 1:12:23.000
<v Speaker 1>organization Organization one at the Ecuadorian embassy in London. They're

1:12:23.000 --> 1:12:26.439
<v Speaker 1>not really hiding it, and get pending organization one emails

1:12:26.760 --> 1:12:31.880
<v Speaker 1>They deal with foundation allegedly, so somebody gave him. It

1:12:31.920 --> 1:12:33.640
<v Speaker 1>sounds like somebody gave him a tip. Hey, this guy

1:12:33.720 --> 1:12:36.160
<v Speaker 1>might have information that deals with the Clinton Foundation. That's

1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:39.200
<v Speaker 1>how I read it, right, Yeah, And if it was

1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a crime, they would have asked Jerry Corsi to plead

1:12:42.160 --> 1:12:48.360
<v Speaker 1>guilty to conspiracy to commit espionage. They're describing an operation

1:12:48.560 --> 1:12:52.320
<v Speaker 1>to get somebody's clause on opposition research, which people may

1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:55.880
<v Speaker 1>think is icky, but is not illegal. And again, Sean,

1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll come back to the same thing. The reason that

1:12:57.680 --> 1:13:02.160
<v Speaker 1>they're pressuring him to plead guilty to a false statement

1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:07.559
<v Speaker 1>is in order to camouflage what they're doing as if

1:13:07.640 --> 1:13:11.240
<v Speaker 1>they were investigating actual crime. But what's going on here

1:13:11.360 --> 1:13:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is they're investigating a non crime. They trip people up

1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and they get them to falsely explain, or as they

1:13:18.880 --> 1:13:23.840
<v Speaker 1>put it, inaccurately explain what happened. And what the media

1:13:23.920 --> 1:13:27.519
<v Speaker 1>then runs out and reports is that Mulla is doing

1:13:27.560 --> 1:13:32.639
<v Speaker 1>an investigation of Trump collusion with Russia and everybody's pleading guilty.

1:13:32.680 --> 1:13:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Isn't this what we call a classic to that? Isn't

1:13:35.920 --> 1:13:39.800
<v Speaker 1>this a classic perjury trap? In other words, you know

1:13:39.840 --> 1:13:41.960
<v Speaker 1>they can't get you on the underlying crime. So what

1:13:42.080 --> 1:13:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it teaches I guess everybody else's, even though you might

1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:47.719
<v Speaker 1>be inclined as I normally would be. If the FBI

1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:50.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted my help, I would want to help them. But

1:13:50.520 --> 1:13:53.400
<v Speaker 1>if I'm risking my own life and a charge of

1:13:54.120 --> 1:13:58.360
<v Speaker 1>perjury if I don't accurately remember something, I don't even

1:13:58.439 --> 1:14:02.519
<v Speaker 1>know what I did on TV last night, And and

1:14:03.120 --> 1:14:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Corsi's mistake is twofold. First of all, he should not

1:14:07.280 --> 1:14:11.240
<v Speaker 1>have volunteered to testify. He should have said no, when

1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:14.439
<v Speaker 1>he was asked. And second of all, he should have

1:14:14.560 --> 1:14:22.439
<v Speaker 1>reviewed his emails before he testified. That's his mistake. But nevertheless, well,

1:14:23.000 --> 1:14:26.360
<v Speaker 1>he actually deleted them, but then he was able to

1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:31.160
<v Speaker 1>gain access, as you often are, through deleted emails that

1:14:31.280 --> 1:14:34.120
<v Speaker 1>are nevertheless kept. But I mean the point is that

1:14:34.200 --> 1:14:39.679
<v Speaker 1>if Robert Muller decides to charge Jerome Corsi with making

1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a false statement, he'll never be able to prove it,

1:14:42.080 --> 1:14:44.479
<v Speaker 1>I predict, because he'd have to show that it was

1:14:44.720 --> 1:14:51.000
<v Speaker 1>willingly and knowingly made. Well in the defense of Jerome Corsi,

1:14:51.120 --> 1:14:54.759
<v Speaker 1>as it is for many people, is that I didn't

1:14:55.040 --> 1:14:59.640
<v Speaker 1>knowingly make a false statement. I didn't remember emails that

1:14:59.760 --> 1:15:02.519
<v Speaker 1>I said. He but isn't it an act of bravery?

1:15:02.680 --> 1:15:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, pretty much what it seems. Mueller's team was

1:15:06.120 --> 1:15:10.120
<v Speaker 1>offering you plead guilty to one count of lying, and

1:15:10.600 --> 1:15:13.880
<v Speaker 1>we won't even we won't even oppose the possibility that

1:15:13.960 --> 1:15:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you just get probation. So of Coursie says, I'm not

1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:20.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. Mantaport, he says, I'm not going to tell

1:15:20.200 --> 1:15:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you what you want to say. Greg, you coined the term, well,

1:15:23.160 --> 1:15:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I've heard it before, test to lie. In other words,

1:15:25.439 --> 1:15:27.880
<v Speaker 1>they're sitting there across the table from you, basically telling

1:15:27.920 --> 1:15:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you what they want to hear, and all you have

1:15:30.479 --> 1:15:32.479
<v Speaker 1>to do to save your own ass is say what

1:15:32.600 --> 1:15:34.479
<v Speaker 1>they want to hear. And if you do, you're going

1:15:34.520 --> 1:15:36.519
<v Speaker 1>to benefit instead of the rest of your life in jail.

1:15:36.560 --> 1:15:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's going to be, you know, two weeks like Papadopoulos,

1:15:40.000 --> 1:15:43.920
<v Speaker 1>But to both of them to both say no because

1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:47.200
<v Speaker 1>they can't go along with something that's false. They're both

1:15:48.000 --> 1:15:51.160
<v Speaker 1>older gentlemen. It seems to me that that's a pretty

1:15:51.200 --> 1:15:53.360
<v Speaker 1>principled stand, knowing that this might be the rest of

1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:57.360
<v Speaker 1>their lives in jail. They're being principled. In the special

1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:00.360
<v Speaker 1>counsel is being unprincipled because he doesn't care about the

1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:04.680
<v Speaker 1>truth and he's using the tactics of bribery and extortion

1:16:05.439 --> 1:16:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to try to get somebody to capitulate in Coursie and

1:16:09.160 --> 1:16:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I think man Afford now are refusing to do so.

1:16:13.520 --> 1:16:15.680
<v Speaker 1>The quick answer on that, Andy, and we'll take a

1:16:15.720 --> 1:16:20.360
<v Speaker 1>break to capitulate on what that's the I mean, what

1:16:20.920 --> 1:16:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Greg outlines, sure, but the thing is, what if they

1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:27.680
<v Speaker 1>admitted what Mueller wanted, it's still not a crime. What

1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:30.760
<v Speaker 1>they're doing is they're criminalizing what they do in a

1:16:30.840 --> 1:16:34.360
<v Speaker 1>political campaign. It's not like, you know, somebody agrees with

1:16:34.520 --> 1:16:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Muller's version of events. And finally we have the big

1:16:37.439 --> 1:16:39.600
<v Speaker 1>hacking conspiracy they don't have. I want to ask you

1:16:39.600 --> 1:16:41.240
<v Speaker 1>about that when we get back. I want to ask

1:16:41.240 --> 1:16:43.799
<v Speaker 1>you about because the New York Times also publish this information,

1:16:44.360 --> 1:16:48.160
<v Speaker 1>as did other papers, the other news sources, and there

1:16:48.320 --> 1:16:51.760
<v Speaker 1>was a case in the past where it became a

1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:54.360
<v Speaker 1>big deal. I'll explain that when we get back. Let's

1:16:54.400 --> 1:16:57.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about other publications that did the same thing that

1:16:57.800 --> 1:17:00.400
<v Speaker 1>wiki leaks did. They got the information, and they got

1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the emails DNC Podesta. They all didn't they all print them?

1:17:05.080 --> 1:17:08.599
<v Speaker 1>Are they Why are they less culpable than wiki leaks

1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:13.920
<v Speaker 1>doing it? Andy, They're not. We have a pentagon. If

1:17:14.920 --> 1:17:18.479
<v Speaker 1>if wiki leaks was involved, if if wiki leaks had

1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:23.360
<v Speaker 1>an understanding with Russian operatives that there would be hacking

1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:26.559
<v Speaker 1>and wiki leaks would take the hacked information and put

1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:29.439
<v Speaker 1>it out, then Wiki leaks may have a hacking problem.

1:17:29.560 --> 1:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, they may be involved in the hacking conspiracy.

1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:34.800
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that other people who take what they

1:17:34.920 --> 1:17:38.040
<v Speaker 1>have and run with it have committed a crime. You could,

1:17:38.080 --> 1:17:41.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember when this came at Sean Marco Rubio,

1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I think, came out and said nobody should rely on

1:17:43.920 --> 1:17:47.320
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, that nobody should um, you know, publicize it

1:17:47.400 --> 1:17:50.240
<v Speaker 1>because it's it's stolen material, and he wanted to be

1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:52.400
<v Speaker 1>like the last honest man. But the way things work

1:17:52.439 --> 1:17:56.720
<v Speaker 1>in America, everybody uses this stuff and the media regularizes

1:17:56.760 --> 1:17:59.320
<v Speaker 1>it by publishing it. I think that's a good point.

1:17:59.439 --> 1:18:01.800
<v Speaker 1>And on the other side of the guys, don't mind.

1:18:01.800 --> 1:18:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to hold you over a few more minutes

1:18:03.240 --> 1:18:07.599
<v Speaker 1>and get into historically why I think this is important

1:18:07.680 --> 1:18:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and what it means for freedom of the press and

1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:14.760
<v Speaker 1>those that are given information like this. Eight hundred nine one.

1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Sean will continue more with Greg Jarrett and Andy McCarthy

1:18:18.200 --> 1:18:20.160
<v Speaker 1>on the other side. All right, twenty five now till

1:18:20.160 --> 1:18:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the top of the hour. It's getting more interesting by

1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the hour, by the minute, by the day. And Robert

1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Mueller has had two setbacks now in the last couple

1:18:28.800 --> 1:18:31.800
<v Speaker 1>of days, one with Paul Manafort also apparently along with

1:18:31.920 --> 1:18:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Jerome Corsia, had joint defense agreements with the White House,

1:18:36.120 --> 1:18:38.120
<v Speaker 1>which means a lot of the information was going back

1:18:38.160 --> 1:18:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and forth. Mueller's claiming the cooperation agreement with Manafort has

1:18:41.920 --> 1:18:44.880
<v Speaker 1>been breached and in the case of course, he's saying

1:18:45.040 --> 1:18:47.519
<v Speaker 1>that he refuses to take a plea deal in which

1:18:47.560 --> 1:18:50.160
<v Speaker 1>he would be forced to lie about something. I want

1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:52.839
<v Speaker 1>to get into the issue it maybe used the Pentagon

1:18:52.920 --> 1:18:55.439
<v Speaker 1>papers as a case in point Andy to explain to

1:18:55.560 --> 1:18:59.639
<v Speaker 1>people exactly why this is not a crime. Even if

1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:02.599
<v Speaker 1>it did it happened as it relates to Jerome Corsi

1:19:02.840 --> 1:19:05.880
<v Speaker 1>or Roger Stone, why would you say it's not a crime. Well, Sean,

1:19:06.040 --> 1:19:10.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe the best example for people would be like a diary. Right,

1:19:11.040 --> 1:19:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you have a diary in your house. I come in

1:19:13.880 --> 1:19:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and I steal the diary out of your house and

1:19:16.560 --> 1:19:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I give it to Greg and Greg runs with the

1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:21.760
<v Speaker 1>information on it. Now, Greg didn't deputize me to go

1:19:21.920 --> 1:19:25.000
<v Speaker 1>steal it, you know, he didn't know I was going

1:19:25.080 --> 1:19:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to take it. But he finds the information interesting he

1:19:29.000 --> 1:19:32.679
<v Speaker 1>publishes it. Now I've committed a crime because I stole

1:19:32.720 --> 1:19:35.400
<v Speaker 1>it from you. Greg hasn't done anything wrong. Now you

1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:40.160
<v Speaker 1>could say, maybe he's done something on ethical or something

1:19:40.240 --> 1:19:44.719
<v Speaker 1>that you think is achy, because you've you've put personal

1:19:44.800 --> 1:19:49.040
<v Speaker 1>information in your diary and he's not respecting your right

1:19:49.080 --> 1:19:53.240
<v Speaker 1>to privacy as you see it, sure, fine, but he's

1:19:53.240 --> 1:19:56.400
<v Speaker 1>still let me let me ask you specifically in this case,

1:19:56.400 --> 1:19:59.120
<v Speaker 1>because I interviewed a sage on radio and on TV,

1:19:59.680 --> 1:20:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and I asked him repeatedly, I'll play it for you

1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:05.919
<v Speaker 1>if you want, whether or not he got this information

1:20:06.000 --> 1:20:09.479
<v Speaker 1>from Russia. Now, one caveat people in the intel community,

1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:13.280
<v Speaker 1>other sources. I have said it absolutely. Maybe it wasn't

1:20:13.320 --> 1:20:16.000
<v Speaker 1>directly from Russia or a state party, as he said,

1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:18.320
<v Speaker 1>but it could have been a third party cut out,

1:20:18.400 --> 1:20:20.920
<v Speaker 1>if you will. In other words, somebody that is not

1:20:21.240 --> 1:20:24.640
<v Speaker 1>associated with them but really is doing their bidding. But

1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>here's what, Asan said, Russia give you this information or

1:20:29.080 --> 1:20:34.280
<v Speaker 1>anybody associated with Russia. Our source is not a state party.

1:20:34.920 --> 1:20:39.400
<v Speaker 1>So the answer for our interactions is no, you did

1:20:39.479 --> 1:20:44.120
<v Speaker 1>not get this information about the DNC John Podesta's emails.

1:20:44.160 --> 1:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell the American people a thousand percent you

1:20:46.880 --> 1:20:49.960
<v Speaker 1>did not get it from Russia or anybody associated with Russia.

1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>We can say, we have said repeatedly over the last

1:20:55.320 --> 1:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>two months, that our source is not the Russian cover

1:21:00.680 --> 1:21:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and it is not the state's party. Our source is

1:21:04.439 --> 1:21:06.479
<v Speaker 1>not the Russian government. So in other words, let me

1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:10.320
<v Speaker 1>be clear, Russia did not give you the podested documents

1:21:10.439 --> 1:21:13.840
<v Speaker 1>or anything from the DNC. All right, now, Andy, just

1:21:14.040 --> 1:21:16.479
<v Speaker 1>using your example of you giving something to Greg and

1:21:16.600 --> 1:21:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Gregg maybe unethically but not illegally, you know, publishes that something,

1:21:21.400 --> 1:21:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you're on the hook. What if something is

1:21:25.080 --> 1:21:28.839
<v Speaker 1>brought to wiki leagues by whatever source, but it happens

1:21:28.880 --> 1:21:31.240
<v Speaker 1>to be truth that they're publishing. May not like it,

1:21:31.320 --> 1:21:34.240
<v Speaker 1>it may be secrets, it might be you know, personally,

1:21:34.360 --> 1:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe we as a country have not developed

1:21:38.520 --> 1:21:42.439
<v Speaker 1>cyber security. We get hacked all the time. It's insane

1:21:43.000 --> 1:21:45.799
<v Speaker 1>that we have not built up a better defense system

1:21:45.880 --> 1:21:48.360
<v Speaker 1>for our government. Which also raises the question of Hillary's

1:21:48.400 --> 1:21:51.240
<v Speaker 1>emails and how unsafe that was in a bathroom closet.

1:21:51.320 --> 1:21:55.120
<v Speaker 1>But when he says that if what he is saying

1:21:55.280 --> 1:21:58.360
<v Speaker 1>is true and this was offered to him, is he

1:21:58.720 --> 1:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Greg using urine aology? Did he just receive it from

1:22:01.760 --> 1:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody and he published what somebody gave him because he

1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:07.160
<v Speaker 1>believed it to be true. The best example is the

1:22:07.280 --> 1:22:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Pentagon papers case. The documents about the Vietnam War were

1:22:10.840 --> 1:22:14.519
<v Speaker 1>stolen by Daniel Ellsberg. They were given the New York

1:22:14.560 --> 1:22:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Times and the Washington Post that published them. The Post

1:22:18.160 --> 1:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and The New York Times are insulated from prosecution. They're

1:22:22.080 --> 1:22:25.439
<v Speaker 1>publishing something that's a matter of public interest, even though

1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>they were stolen, And that principle of the Pentagon Papers

1:22:29.400 --> 1:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>cases stood for a very long time. We don't prosecute

1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:37.480
<v Speaker 1>people for trying to find out information, especially news organizations

1:22:37.880 --> 1:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that are in the public interest, even though they originally

1:22:41.400 --> 1:22:45.479
<v Speaker 1>might be stolen information. The same can be said here.

1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Let's assume that the documents were stolen and given to

1:22:51.560 --> 1:22:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Wiki Leaks, and then they then published. Of course, he

1:22:55.040 --> 1:22:56.920
<v Speaker 1>was trying to do exactly what you did, trying to

1:22:57.040 --> 1:23:00.280
<v Speaker 1>find out information. If you read the count again, stim

1:23:00.360 --> 1:23:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it says he reached out to wiki leagues. All right,

1:23:03.080 --> 1:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>so did you, So did I So did hundreds of

1:23:06.360 --> 1:23:09.439
<v Speaker 1>other journalists across America during the summer of two thousand

1:23:09.520 --> 1:23:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and sixteen because Julians he's got some stuff and it's

1:23:14.400 --> 1:23:18.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be damaging to Hillary Clinton. So everybody was

1:23:18.360 --> 1:23:20.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to find out what it was. So why then,

1:23:21.240 --> 1:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not why Andy then would in the sense if

1:23:25.400 --> 1:23:28.400
<v Speaker 1>this is offered to Wiki leagues, and I know they

1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>view themselves as a news organization, if it's given to them,

1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:34.439
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't they be in the same position as the

1:23:34.520 --> 1:23:36.599
<v Speaker 1>New York Times and the Washington Post in the Pentagon

1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Papers case. Well, Sean, I don't know that I accept

1:23:40.600 --> 1:23:46.599
<v Speaker 1>Asana's explanation that he didn't get it from Russia. If

1:23:46.680 --> 1:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you take at face value what he said, and if

1:23:49.040 --> 1:23:51.439
<v Speaker 1>it turns out as you qualified before, if what he's

1:23:51.439 --> 1:23:54.760
<v Speaker 1>saying is true, then I agree with Gregg's analysis of it.

1:23:54.880 --> 1:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>He's just like a journalist. What all right, Let's say

1:23:58.360 --> 1:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>his source was a Russian cut out. Let's say it's that.

1:24:01.640 --> 1:24:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Does that matter who where he got it from? I

1:24:05.040 --> 1:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>think it depends on whether he knows and whether you

1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:10.599
<v Speaker 1>have an arrangement that you can that you can properly

1:24:10.840 --> 1:24:13.479
<v Speaker 1>describe as a conspiracy and others. How is that different though,

1:24:13.520 --> 1:24:16.400
<v Speaker 1>than the Pentagon papers? What do you mean in other words?

1:24:16.439 --> 1:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>You know they were stolen, they were stolen documents, they

1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>were printed. Yeah, but if you're encouraging people to do

1:24:22.360 --> 1:24:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the theft and there's proof of that, Let's say he didn't.

1:24:25.080 --> 1:24:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's say you didn't encourage it. Somebody came to him

1:24:27.160 --> 1:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and offered it to him. Well, that's a different thing, right,

1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:34.120
<v Speaker 1>That's like that's like somebody takes information. What I'm saying

1:24:34.240 --> 1:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>is there's a lot of there's a lot of you know,

1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:39.360
<v Speaker 1>this is not a one off with Wiki leaks, right, Uh,

1:24:39.720 --> 1:24:42.679
<v Speaker 1>They've had they have a lot of information that they've

1:24:42.680 --> 1:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>put out in the past. And there's a lot of

1:24:44.800 --> 1:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>people in the intelligence community long before any of this happened,

1:24:48.840 --> 1:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that thought that they were in arm of Russian intelligence.

1:24:51.640 --> 1:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that that's ever been disproved. It

1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>certainly hasn't been disproved. Listen, I know people that believe

1:24:57.040 --> 1:24:59.519
<v Speaker 1>that with all their heart and soul, and I don't

1:24:59.560 --> 1:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>have an so because it's it's way above my pay grade.

1:25:03.360 --> 1:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>But but then let me take it a step further

1:25:05.520 --> 1:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>and ask if in fact they got these disinformation however

1:25:09.560 --> 1:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>they got it and they published it, and if they

1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't encourage it. You're saying there's no crime associated with that,

1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and that that precedence of the Pentagon papers would hold, Yes,

1:25:20.000 --> 1:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>if there's no conspiracy, Sean, I don't understand why giving

1:25:22.960 --> 1:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>it to wiki leaks would be different from giving it

1:25:24.960 --> 1:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to me, you know, I mean, there's either a crimer

1:25:28.080 --> 1:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>there's not underneath it all. Yeah, and Greg, to take

1:25:31.040 --> 1:25:33.599
<v Speaker 1>it even maybe a step further, if they really wanted

1:25:33.640 --> 1:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>to find out where they got it from. Why didn't

1:25:36.680 --> 1:25:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Muller and his Well, first of all, why didn't you know?

1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing is he never went after Hillary Clinton

1:25:42.200 --> 1:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and real Russian lies, really used it to propagandize the

1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>American people, bought and paid for Russian lies. Then a

1:25:50.320 --> 1:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>fraud committed on four fives accords and four app separate applications,

1:25:55.080 --> 1:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>pertinent information withheld from those judges. And then of course

1:25:58.200 --> 1:26:01.599
<v Speaker 1>she was exonerated and without an investigation. And then we've

1:26:01.640 --> 1:26:05.559
<v Speaker 1>got surveillance and I'm asking and leaking raw intelligence abuse here.

1:26:05.640 --> 1:26:08.479
<v Speaker 1>But you know, let's just for the sake of argument

1:26:08.760 --> 1:26:11.719
<v Speaker 1>here say that you know, in the case of Wiki leaks,

1:26:11.960 --> 1:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>that they did what any other paper would do or

1:26:15.800 --> 1:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>any other Yeah, and Muller admits it. But why didn't

1:26:18.680 --> 1:26:20.599
<v Speaker 1>they ask Well, here's my question, why didn't they ask

1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Julian Assange? Well, they shouldn't. The first thing you do

1:26:24.080 --> 1:26:27.759
<v Speaker 1>is you asked Julian Assange. There's no indication anyone. Wouldn't

1:26:27.760 --> 1:26:29.679
<v Speaker 1>he be the one guy I'm sorry to interrupt, wouldn't

1:26:29.680 --> 1:26:31.599
<v Speaker 1>he be the one guy that knows where he got

1:26:31.640 --> 1:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it from? And wouldn't he be able wouldn't he be

1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>able to prove where he got it from. He would,

1:26:37.320 --> 1:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>But the on the Statement of Offense first page, Muller

1:26:41.479 --> 1:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>declares the theft of campaign related emails and other documents

1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>was by the Russian government's main intelligence directorate of the

1:26:50.720 --> 1:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>General Staff, the gru. So Mueller declares, this was the

1:26:54.840 --> 1:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>theft was bought. Okay, let's say that's true, but that

1:26:58.520 --> 1:27:01.479
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that's where they got it from. And if

1:27:01.880 --> 1:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the Russians gave it to WIKI leagues and Jerome Corsi

1:27:07.280 --> 1:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and others, including yourself, try to find out information in

1:27:11.040 --> 1:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>details about that. You're not committing a crime. The gr

1:27:15.360 --> 1:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you committed a crime, but nobody else did. All right, Listen,

1:27:18.840 --> 1:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys are both fascinating. I mean, this really is

1:27:21.920 --> 1:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>getting interesting to me, and it seems like there is

1:27:27.080 --> 1:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a certain desperation to this that I think is

1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be revealed in pretty short order. We'll find out.

1:27:33.080 --> 1:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Andy McCarthy, thank you, Greg Jarrett, thank you. We appreciate

1:27:36.680 --> 1:27:39.519
<v Speaker 1>you guys spending the extra time with us. Eight hundred

1:27:39.600 --> 1:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>nine for one. Shawn told free telephone number you want

1:27:41.880 --> 1:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of the program. Our friend Congressman

1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Louis Gormer to Texas their first congressional district. What percentage

1:27:48.800 --> 1:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>of the vote did you get this time? It was

1:27:51.800 --> 1:27:56.880
<v Speaker 1>only about seventy two, seventy three, seventy two seven. I'm

1:27:56.920 --> 1:27:59.519
<v Speaker 1>never campaigning for you again. You don't need me ever.

1:28:00.280 --> 1:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding? If it would have been a lot

1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:06.360
<v Speaker 1>worse without you? Sean? Are you kidding? Can I say

1:28:06.400 --> 1:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>one thing about Mueller mower investigation? We got senators say

1:28:10.160 --> 1:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the more investigation we got to be protected. Look, let

1:28:12.960 --> 1:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>me go on record, the Mueller investigation has got to

1:28:16.240 --> 1:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>be protected at all costs. I've been saying Mueller needed

1:28:19.880 --> 1:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>to be investigated for years now, and if there's an

1:28:23.479 --> 1:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>investigation of Moller, it needs to be protected. This guy's dirty,

1:28:27.640 --> 1:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>he needs to be investigated. That's the mower investigation that

1:28:30.960 --> 1:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>needs Well, that's not gonna happen. But you know, we

1:28:33.120 --> 1:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>are talking about a lot of different things here. Let

1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:37.559
<v Speaker 1>me ask you this, um. Now, you have a plan

1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:40.519
<v Speaker 1>that's going to allow Congress to pay for the border

1:28:40.640 --> 1:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>wall through a reconciliation bill that would be in the

1:28:45.120 --> 1:28:47.479
<v Speaker 1>House and Senate can do it with fifty one votes

1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>in the Senate. Yeah, or even fifty votes, because then

1:28:51.320 --> 1:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>we have a vice president that would break it for

1:28:53.200 --> 1:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the president. And you know what, in September we were told, look,

1:28:57.520 --> 1:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>let's don't have a fight for the wall. Now, let's

1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>come back in December and do it then. And now

1:29:03.360 --> 1:29:05.559
<v Speaker 1>there is no fight. And I got up today at

1:29:05.640 --> 1:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>conference and I was saying, look, guys, you said you

1:29:08.240 --> 1:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>were wanted to fight in December. Now is the time

1:29:12.120 --> 1:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to fight. We only have a couple of months. And Sean,

1:29:15.960 --> 1:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you had been so proud of the members that stood

1:29:18.240 --> 1:29:21.519
<v Speaker 1>up and said, hey, I've been defeated, but I'm willing

1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to stay here every day. I'd like to have Christmas

1:29:24.360 --> 1:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Day itself, but I would stay here every day. People

1:29:27.400 --> 1:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>are willing to fight. Rank and file are willing to fight.

1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And Paul says, well, the Senate doesn't have the votes.

1:29:34.560 --> 1:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>We can do it through reconciliation. Brad Burn has the

1:29:37.960 --> 1:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>bill is called the fifty vote for a Wall bill

1:29:40.960 --> 1:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>because you don't have to have sixty and it could

1:29:44.320 --> 1:29:47.519
<v Speaker 1>be done. Paul's been chairman of Budget Committee's done it before.

1:29:47.560 --> 1:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>He knows how it's done. Well, they don't have the

1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>votes in the Senate. Look, we have got to have

1:29:52.000 --> 1:29:55.559
<v Speaker 1>people right up the Senate, right up the House members saying, look,

1:29:55.800 --> 1:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you got two months help the president. You didn't help

1:29:59.160 --> 1:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>him enough before. Now you got a chance before you

1:30:02.439 --> 1:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>go out help the president. We got a lot people

1:30:05.000 --> 1:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>up because the fight is in a lot of members,

1:30:08.040 --> 1:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Republican members here just not why are they afraid to

1:30:11.840 --> 1:30:14.439
<v Speaker 1>have this fight ever? I mean, this is it. Don't

1:30:14.520 --> 1:30:17.719
<v Speaker 1>get it. I don't get it. It's if we don't

1:30:17.800 --> 1:30:21.439
<v Speaker 1>have this fight, they may want Rodney for president next time.

1:30:21.640 --> 1:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>There will not be another Republican president if we don't

1:30:25.640 --> 1:30:28.719
<v Speaker 1>do what we need to do to help Donald Trump

1:30:29.160 --> 1:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>protect our border, protect our country, not to stop immigration,

1:30:33.040 --> 1:30:35.519
<v Speaker 1>but make sure it's legal. He's doing what he can.

1:30:35.960 --> 1:30:38.439
<v Speaker 1>That's why his voters will come out in twenty twenty.

1:30:38.920 --> 1:30:42.639
<v Speaker 1>But we can do this is through the Reconciliation product,

1:30:42.640 --> 1:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and the Democrats can stop it. We have the votes.

1:30:45.240 --> 1:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>What has Mitch McConnell said about it. Well, I haven't

1:30:47.880 --> 1:30:51.479
<v Speaker 1>heard from Mitch, but I've heard from Paul and Kevin.

1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Their position as well. The Senate says they don't have

1:30:54.000 --> 1:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the votes. Well maybe they don't have Jeff Flake, but

1:30:56.520 --> 1:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>we could get fifty votes if there's enough pressure brought

1:31:00.080 --> 1:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to bear on what's going to happen next year if

1:31:03.200 --> 1:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>they don't help out and get this done for a

1:31:06.960 --> 1:31:09.479
<v Speaker 1>while where we need it. I mean, we have slapped

1:31:09.520 --> 1:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the president the effects figuratively speaking. It's time. We can

1:31:13.800 --> 1:31:17.439
<v Speaker 1>do this now. And thank you for your fight. This

1:31:17.680 --> 1:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>is a desperate time and I don't normally get applause

1:31:21.320 --> 1:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>at conference, but when I said, guys, this little experiment

1:31:25.200 --> 1:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in self government is very in grave danger of coming

1:31:29.080 --> 1:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>to an end. Let's fight. Let's spend these next two

1:31:32.160 --> 1:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>months helping the president. And I got a bunch of applause.

1:31:35.280 --> 1:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>People are ready to fight, but the leadership is not.

1:31:38.560 --> 1:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>They just said, I'm gonna get Kevin McCarthy on the

1:31:41.080 --> 1:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>line and see if I can talk to him about it,

1:31:42.920 --> 1:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>because he's the guy that can make this happen, and

1:31:44.880 --> 1:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>he should make it happen. In the new listeners, I

1:31:47.960 --> 1:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>think you need to add, Look, you have a good

1:31:49.800 --> 1:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>relationship with the president. Wanted you to have the President

1:31:52.120 --> 1:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>called Mitch McConnell and push him. Well, and that's the thing.

1:31:55.040 --> 1:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>If the House will do our job, then the President

1:31:58.800 --> 1:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>has incredible leverage against Senate to get it done. But

1:32:03.040 --> 1:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>if we don't even fight to do it in the House,

1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>well then there is no pressure on the Senate. We

1:32:08.840 --> 1:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta get it done. We're gonna work on that the

1:32:11.000 --> 1:32:13.519
<v Speaker 1>rest of the week. Is it unfolds Louis Garmoert, thank you,

1:32:13.600 --> 1:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>my friend, eight hundred nine for one. Sean told that's

1:32:16.240 --> 1:32:18.479
<v Speaker 1>what It's simple. They have the power. All they have

1:32:18.560 --> 1:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to do is the work, not that hard keeping promises.

1:32:21.720 --> 1:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>The American people will will reward you politically for that.

1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's gonna wrap things up for us here today. Wow,

1:32:28.880 --> 1:32:32.639
<v Speaker 1>what a show we have on Hannity tonight. By the way,

1:32:32.880 --> 1:32:36.439
<v Speaker 1>I just see Jerome Corsi as now said that his

1:32:36.560 --> 1:32:39.799
<v Speaker 1>attorneys have prepared It looks like they filed a criminal

1:32:39.880 --> 1:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>complaint with the Acting Attorney General Whittaker on Muller's special

1:32:44.479 --> 1:32:48.519
<v Speaker 1>counsel and the DOJ. Now, both Jerome Corsi and Roger

1:32:48.600 --> 1:32:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Stone will join us tonight Hannity Tonight ninetiestern say DVR,

1:32:52.640 --> 1:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back here tomorrow see tonight. Thanks for being

1:32:54.720 --> 1:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>with us.