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Speaker 3: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 4: Here in the s WBC studio.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nicole Hutchinson alongside Aisha Morrison, alongside Jess Navarrees and

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Speaker 2: alongside Christie Scales. How y'all doing today, ladies?

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Speaker 5: I had to add a little I know. Okay, wow,

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Speaker 5: that's crazy, I know. Don't get me stuck in my head. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna get a.

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Speaker 6: Carfeel wicked, wicked.

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Speaker 5: It feels a little wicked.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, what is it the title?

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Speaker 6: What wicked?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it gets wicked on Sunday and then it might

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Speaker 2: get a little wicked.

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Speaker 6: Hope, so it might get a little wicked. Some some

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Speaker 6: revenge stuff in there.

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Speaker 8: There's some for which side, Well, it could get wicked

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Speaker 8: for either side. Truly, that's what makes it fun.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope it gets wicked though for Dallas in a

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Speaker 2: in a good ways.

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Speaker 5: It's wicked in a good way.

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Speaker 2: There we go, wicked in a good way.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 2: We're still waiting for the injury report. Typically we do

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Speaker 2: a roll call real fast. But I'll just put a

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Speaker 2: little reminder out there of who to watch for the

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Speaker 2: injury report when it does come out. Hopefully it does

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Speaker 2: come out soon. But yesterday's practice again, Doran Land was

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Speaker 2: a full participant, Brandon Cooks limited, Trayvon Diggs limited, Chimaydoka

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Speaker 2: another four participant day for him. Uh Tyler Goydon full participant.

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Speaker 2: Good sign there with a shoulder. Eric Kendricks a full

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Speaker 2: participant in yesterday, he was limited on Wednesday. Marshawn Neeland limited,

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Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb did not participate. Big one to watch there,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis limited. He did say earlier in the week

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Speaker 2: though that he expects to play on Sunday, so that's

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Speaker 2: a good sign. And Zach Martin, Tyler, Tyler Smith, Nick

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Speaker 2: Vigil did not participate, but Hunter Lipkey was limited after

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Speaker 2: not participating on Wednesday. Then you look at the Washington commanders. Hmmm,

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Speaker 2: Dorn's Armstrong full participant limited is Nick Belloor, their linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Did not participate. Michael Davis Forarrell, their defensive end. Sorry, no,

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Speaker 2: you're fine. Marshawn Lattimore, big one to watch there, did

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Speaker 2: not participate and uh never know he's.

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Speaker 6: Been ruled out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's been ruled out for tomorrow as of today,

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Speaker 7: Marshall yep of today, Marshall Lettamore.

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Speaker 6: Has been rolled out for tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: We did get an update on Ceedee Lamb if I'm

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Speaker 7: not mistaken that it's expected that he should play.

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Speaker 6: That that was good news.

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Speaker 7: We're still kind of wearing, not worrying, wondering about Deron

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Speaker 7: Bland as well. Sounds like he did go through everything,

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Speaker 7: as Mike McCarthy reported today, So maybe we'll have some

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Speaker 7: more insight on him tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: For certain, I would say based on what I've heard,

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Speaker 8: If not this week, for sure next week.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's that's where it's trending.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's again and he shouldn't and it could change,

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Speaker 2: it could change it.

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Speaker 5: Just that's kind of where things are.

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Speaker 2: We're still waiting for the injury report for today's practice,

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Speaker 2: but hopefully we get some good news for Deron Bland

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Speaker 2: and other guys as well, especially Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 5: But Christy, I'm going to you because you.

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Speaker 9: Look at them, I am so popular today.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 10: Love it.

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Speaker 5: Gravity with that.

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Speaker 2: I was trying.

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Speaker 6: I was dollar taking it.

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Speaker 2: There's Christy all right. There has been a completely different

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Speaker 2: story for the Washington Commanders when you think about health

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Speaker 2: a pretty much healthy team.

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Speaker 9: Really say so, because in the in the NFL, it's

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Speaker 9: not just staying healthy or it's when you play an opponent,

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Speaker 9: especially a division opponent and who you know, you play

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Speaker 9: them twice a year, it's about catching them at the

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Speaker 9: right time or the wrong time. And so from Washington's standpoint, boy,

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Speaker 9: are you catching the Cowboys at the right time?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 9: You know where you don't have Dak, you're not sure

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Speaker 9: may not have drawn Bland back, and so, uh we

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Speaker 9: know all about the Cowboys injuries. But Washington one reason

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Speaker 9: why they've done so well this year. Sure, Jaden Daniels,

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Speaker 9: their Rickie quarterback, is playing well. And sure they've gotten

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Speaker 9: new coaching staff that's brought in a lot of free agents,

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Speaker 9: and energy. But they have been healthy. And so you

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Speaker 9: look at the Cowboys success last year, you know, the

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Speaker 9: twelve wins, that the Cowboys were healthy really throughout the

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Speaker 9: whole season and even going into the playoffs. But the

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Speaker 9: good health has been a key to Washington's success. On defense,

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Speaker 9: seven of their eleven starters have started every single game. Wow,

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Speaker 9: the one big player that they're missing Jonathan Allen, he

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Speaker 9: and Deron Payne have been the two yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 9: two stalwarts of their defensive line. Jonathan Allen landed on

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Speaker 9: injured reserve in Week seven and then former Cowboy dorin

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Speaker 9: to Armstrong. He's missed one game. You know, their rookie

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Speaker 9: Mike Sandris still their rooky cornerback, has started all but

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Speaker 9: healthy unit, particularly on defense and on offense. Seven again,

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Speaker 9: seven of their eleven starters have started every game, but

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Speaker 9: most importantly, four out of their five offensive linemen have

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Speaker 9: started every single game. And so you look at the

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Speaker 9: state of the Cowboys offensive line, and especially you know

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Speaker 9: at the end of Monday Night's game, where three of

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Speaker 9: can't even finish the game.

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Speaker 6: They're in the blue medical.

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Speaker 9: Tent or up the tunnel, in the locker room or

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Speaker 9: the imaging rooms. That's one reason for the big discrepancy

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Speaker 9: between Washington and Dallas this year. Everyone's thinking great things

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Speaker 9: for Dallas injury bug bites along with a lot of

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Speaker 9: other issues. But Washington infusion of talent. They've stayed healthy

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Speaker 9: and it shows with their seven wins.

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Speaker 2: And it kind of goes back to what you were

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Speaker 2: also talking about earlier, how the Cowboys are playing Washington

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Speaker 2: with one of one of three games in eleven days

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Speaker 9: Yes, the Cowboys really you know the schedule makers, and

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Speaker 9: I know that every single team can complain about look

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Speaker 9: at something with the schedule. But every year the Cowboys

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Speaker 9: play the three games in twelve days. Where you have

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Speaker 9: Well you have Monday Night football, so you're down one day.

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Speaker 9: So they finish Monday night late. They play again the

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Speaker 9: the Giants on Thanksgiving day, so three games in eleven days. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 9: the Washington Redskins are coming off a mini by because

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Speaker 9: last week they didn't play Sunday. They played Thursday night

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Speaker 9: against the Eagles, so they have eleven days before they

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Speaker 9: play the Cowboys. So timing is everything in the NFL,

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Speaker 9: not just in terms of injuries and when the injury

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Speaker 9: bug bite you, especially at certain positions, but with the

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Speaker 9: way that the schedule makers and the timing of when

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Speaker 9: you're catching Washington and Dallas short short rest compared to

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Speaker 9: longer rest.

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Speaker 2: And look at the timing of this injury report, because

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Speaker 2: we just got it all right, Uh, Deron Bland full

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Speaker 2: participant in today's practice, but there are quite a few

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Speaker 2: guys questionable. Brandon Cooks that is expected, Trayvon Diggs questionable,

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Speaker 2: he was limited today's practice. Uh Tuma questionable after being

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Speaker 2: Tyler Smith questionable, Nick Vigil questionable. So let's talk about

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Speaker 2: this offensive line because Tyler Smith, Zach Martin, if you

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Speaker 2: don't have those two guys, that means you have just

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Speaker 2: Where would you put Brock Kaufman.

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Speaker 6: Where would you play TJ.

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Speaker 5: Bass anybody.

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Speaker 7: Brock Kaffman was better at left tackle than center, they

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Speaker 7: would be at their respectful places.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, stressed out.

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Speaker 8: Well and with Cooper BB, I don't really think you

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Speaker 8: need to move him anymore to keep him at center.

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Speaker 8: Move brock Kaffman out. He's a veteran at this point.

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Speaker 8: He can handle that.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, put brock more at left tackle.

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Speaker 8: Better.

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Speaker 7: He's performed better at left guard, and TJ.

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Speaker 6: Bass plays better at right guard.

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Speaker 5: But either way, it's just it's gonna be stressful, and.

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Speaker 9: Then you've got Awesome Richards, who you know is gonna

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Speaker 9: The good news is Tyler Geiton uh did practice this

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Speaker 9: week and so looks like he'll be able to go

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Speaker 9: again at left tackle. But that meant that Awesome Richards

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Speaker 9: But I think if if, it'll probably be Bassett right guard,

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Speaker 9: at left guard.

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Speaker 2: But then let's think about this. You're also still shorthanded

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Speaker 2: because what what if, forbid, God forbid this happens if

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Speaker 2: anyone else gets injured, but you have no depth right

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Speaker 2: literally no death NFL.

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Speaker 6: It's that time of year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody, you don't have what what Washington's happening right now?

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Speaker 6: Like that's the normal.

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Speaker 7: It's a luxury for them, right kind of has something

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Speaker 7: like that. Last year I want to say was fortunate.

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Speaker 5: Because the injuries happened early. If they remember to where you.

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Speaker 10: Were switching in and out the early weeks.

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Speaker 8: So by this time last year you had your steady

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Speaker 8: like they were on a later progression. But yeah, to

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Speaker 8: you to your point, like to that point, if something happens,

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Speaker 8: you have to find a shuffle. Yeah, knock on wood,

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Speaker 8: but I can't reach. It's fine, I got it, I

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Speaker 8: got it all right, Like it perfect to your point, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's not a good position to be in. And overall too,

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Speaker 8: when you're not having Zach Martin on the field. I

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Speaker 8: know he hasn't been playing his best ball, but a

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Speaker 8: high communicator, obviously the guys looked to him in those

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Speaker 8: stressful game time situations to communicate effectively through the line.

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Speaker 8: I know Cooper Beebe relies heavily on him to kind

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Speaker 8: of bounce off of that. So to me, I'm looking

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Speaker 8: at Cooper bb as being he's a rookie, but the

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Speaker 8: guy that really takes that line to communicate and kind

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Speaker 8: of see how let's call.

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Speaker 6: It what it is.

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Speaker 8: Let's see how this line looks without Zach Martin. You

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Speaker 8: don't know what next year holds. It's a question mark.

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Speaker 8: You might have to start getting used to not having

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Speaker 8: him in that line.

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Speaker 10: So I'm interested to see how everybody handles that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and how Cooper Rush handles it. Also,

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Speaker 2: because he was already rattled behind the offensive line there

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Speaker 2: he had with Zach Martin, with Tyler Smith and now

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Speaker 2: and this is no shots to brock Hoffman or TJ.

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Speaker 1: Bass.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just a really young offensive line when

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Speaker 2: you add those two guys there too.

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Speaker 7: They do stunts, they do blitzes up the a gap,

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Speaker 5: Those are facts, I mean.

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Speaker 9: And the other thing is when you have older players

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Speaker 9: But when you when there's two guys working in you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the practice schedule for Dante Fowler and

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Speaker 10: I mean Washington did they prepared.

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Speaker 6: This is what good teams do.

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Speaker 7: They prepared for what this year was gonna be for them,

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Speaker 7: I think that they were prepared for a new coach

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Speaker 6: Of ways to get to the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: So I I mean, they also really tackle, They tackle strong,

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Speaker 9: But the thing is, it's not just because you're right

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's easy when you have your guys that

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Speaker 8: And I think that's what this Washington staff overall is

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Speaker 7: It wasn't a bad thing that that they didn't get

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Speaker 5: So for me, Tyler Guiton can take.

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Speaker 7: Explosive off the line, if they can do if their

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Speaker 7: footwork allows them to go inside out, and.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy because it's really that.

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Speaker 7: He's struggling to get his hands on people and to

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Speaker 7: redirect people so they're able to just go in out

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Speaker 7: and just have straight yeah you know, and be able

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Speaker 7: to go straight to the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: So I worry, Like.

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Speaker 7: I said, I worry more about him than Adorance Drances.

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Speaker 7: He has speed to power things. He has some handtech,

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Speaker 7: but he's not gonna break down your hands like crazy.

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Speaker 7: He typically is gonna run through you or overpower you,

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Speaker 7: or win the leverage game. He does really understand leverage

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Speaker 7: as well. We miss them on special teams, I'll say that.

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Speaker 7: But yes, it's a weird situation to kind of be

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Speaker 7: in going up against these guys because they're I wouldn't

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Speaker 7: say they're unique in how they do things, but they

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Speaker 7: have so many different guys that they can kind of

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Speaker 6: This guy. Oh, it's gonna be this guy gets this

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Speaker 6: nothing because they're gonna mix it UPO.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and thanks for mentioning Frankie Luvu, because we need

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Speaker 9: to tell everybody keep your eyes on number four.

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Speaker 6: He sent outside.

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Speaker 9: Linebacker and and I think they'll move him around. And

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Speaker 6: What's your cooking, Christie?

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Speaker 5: A Cowboys win?

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Speaker 10: A Cowboys win.

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Speaker 9: I've worked every Thanksgiving since. I've never been home for

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Speaker 9: Thanksgiving since I was sixteen years old because I went

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Speaker 9: to Texas A and M and I was there when

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Speaker 9: I'm seventeen and so A and M played Texas every

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Speaker 9: Thanksgiving night.

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Speaker 6: That happiness.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's actually going to be on the Saturday after Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 9: but back in the day that was the game and

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Speaker 9: so and then when I graduated college and I started

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Speaker 9: work then doing Cowboys. So I have not been home

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Speaker 9: for Christmas since well I don't want to give my age,

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Speaker 9: but it was the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Kirsty word.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'll probably be at the game. So whatever they're

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Speaker 8: serving at the game.

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Speaker 9: And they do, yeah, legends hospitality at AT and T Stadium.

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Speaker 9: They do such a beautiful job for Thanksgiving. I'll bring

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Speaker 9: the stats next week about the pounds of turkey and

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Speaker 9: yams and stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: I don't have that available for you, and how.

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Speaker 9: Many pumpkin pie and pecan pie and all that. So

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Speaker 9: I'll bring that. But the it's it's an amazing thing

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Speaker 9: that they put together, because think about what you think

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Speaker 9: about what you do to prepare when people come over

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Speaker 9: for Thanksgiving. Now invite ninety three thousand people, and that's

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Speaker 9: what legends does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shout, I don't know why you keep asking me

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Speaker 2: the same question every year, Like when we asked me

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Speaker 2: this last week last year.

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Speaker 6: I said, no, I don't.

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Speaker 5: Hook every years.

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Speaker 6: Years saving but.

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Speaker 5: Like y'all don't answer. Yeah, no, you don't know that.

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Speaker 6: It's fine, it's fine.

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Speaker 5: Are you cooking anything?

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Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 5: What are you cooking?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 7: I have to cook macaroni and cheese for something. Okay,

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Speaker 7: I'll pray for me.

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Speaker 6: I don't really do.

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Speaker 7: I had never had a pot, look, been to a

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Speaker 7: potluk time, moved to the Midwest for six years, and.

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Speaker 6: Not everybody doing them. So I'm just gonna better get

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Speaker 6: on TikTok. I'm gonna pray about it. Yeah, I pray

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Speaker 6: for you. It's fine.

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Speaker 7: There's some really good TikTok because you can't eat it

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Speaker 7: everybody house.

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Speaker 6: That's very true.

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Speaker 5: You cannot.

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Speaker 6: Washing their hands. Well, okay, Thanksgiving, let's you know.

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Speaker 2: You know who's ready to cook?

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Speaker 7: Brandon cooks No girls being four day we said tight.

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Speaker 6: Literally, we.

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Speaker 5: Were just talking about it.

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Speaker 7: The brain that he he he was trending up this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, all right. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: Brevan's man for Luke Schoolmaker, two guys against the Texans

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Speaker 2: that at least stepped up in place of Jake Ferguson

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Speaker 2: with him going down with a concussion, and since he'll

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Speaker 2: be most likely missing Sunday against the Commanders, how much

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Speaker 2: confidence did that give you, guys for a guy like

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Speaker 2: Brevian Spanford and Luke I'll start with you just though

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Speaker 2: about Brevan Spamford.

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Speaker 6: How much confidence?

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Speaker 5: Well, so I talked to Brevan.

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Speaker 8: You did as well, so we bound speak fourth off

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Speaker 8: about this because the thing about Brevan is he has

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Speaker 8: had such a slow rise to that tight end to position,

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Speaker 8: very quiet and slow. Because Christy I didn't realize on

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Speaker 8: the depth chart he was listed his tight end too

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Speaker 8: until you pointed it out.

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Speaker 5: And you know what that that was earned? It was earned.

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Speaker 8: Brevan has done his time on special teams, He's done

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Speaker 8: his He does what he needs to do in his

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Speaker 8: numbers called and something that I really enjoy about him

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Speaker 8: as a player is the mentality. You know, the attitude,

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Speaker 8: the way he goes about things. So when I asked him,

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Speaker 8: you know, with with Jake being out, what is you

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Speaker 8: know kind of what does this mean to you? He

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Speaker 8: was very much like, well, it sucks the circumstances because

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Speaker 8: you never want to see Jake go out.

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Speaker 5: He said that first and foremost.

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Speaker 8: But it ended up becoming one of the situations where

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Speaker 8: he talked about Lunda Wells, the tight ends coach, and

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Speaker 8: he said, Lunda prepares us at all times to be

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Speaker 8: ready if something.

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Speaker 5: Happens to one of our guys.

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Speaker 8: So there's never a drop off, there's never a change

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Speaker 8: in our schedule or the consistency with how we practice

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Speaker 8: because we're.

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Speaker 5: Always ready for that. And I asked him, you know.

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Speaker 8: What is something you feel like you've improved on this season?

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Speaker 8: He said, just getting a bigger scope of pretty much

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Speaker 8: the system, taking it in, taking little things that he's

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Speaker 8: been told and applying that to his game. Very coachable

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Speaker 8: young player that actually was my pet cat in free agency,

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Speaker 8: if you remember, and I'm very excited for him to

628
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Speaker 8: come forward and see what he has. However, Luke Schoonmaker

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Speaker 8: would love to see more production out of him as well.

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Speaker 5: I really want to see Nicole calls it a dog.

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Speaker 10: I want to see the dog come out, absolutely, and

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Speaker 10: it needs.

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Speaker 2: To roof all right, not like that though, but no, yeah,

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Speaker 2: talking like that, talking to Brevin too. Piggybacking off of

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Speaker 2: what you have mentioned about Lunda. He had asked him

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Speaker 2: as well, like what's the approach or mentality of this

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Speaker 2: tighten room when you don't have the presence of Jake

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Speaker 2: Ferguson on the field.

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Speaker 6: And he had said that well.

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Speaker 2: Training camp, Lunda Wells had made it clear, like the

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Speaker 2: production better not slack even whoever's not there, if it's Luke,

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Speaker 2: if it's Brevin, if it's Jake, whoever's not there, the

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Speaker 2: production needs to say the same. So that's something that

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Speaker 2: you have to respect Lunda Wells about because he does

645
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Speaker 2: so many good things with that tight end room. And

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Speaker 2: I also got a chance to ask him about like

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Speaker 2: what does he feel because in Minnesota they were more

648
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Speaker 2: of a run heavy team, and so I'd asked him like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: what's the challenge of trying to adjust different difference system

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Speaker 2: different systems, Because you look at the Cowboys, they're still

651
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Speaker 2: trying to find that identity in the run game. I

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Speaker 2: mean they found it, but it's not as consistent as

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Speaker 2: a Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: Gophers team was.

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Speaker 2: So he had just said that what's helped him is

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Speaker 2: the run blocking schemes are kind of similar from what

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Speaker 2: he ran in Minnesota to where he's able to kind

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Speaker 2: of use that and bring it here. And he also

659
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Speaker 2: grew up he had made like set school records in

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Speaker 2: high school as a wide receiver, so like he's been

661
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Speaker 2: able to tie so many different things to his game

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Speaker 2: from whether he was young in high school up until now.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of helped him grow up a little bit

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Speaker 2: faster in the NFL. And that's something that he really

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Speaker 2: touched on as well.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it was good. So that is good information.

667
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Speaker 7: And I remember watching him through the draft process and

668
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Speaker 7: I remember Cowboys Nation being ecstatic. I remember when they

669
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Speaker 7: brought him in as an undrafted free agent, some of

670
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Speaker 7: the expectations.

671
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Speaker 6: I was surprised he didn't get drafted.

672
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Speaker 7: I understand that Minnesota maybe is to some people's standards,

673
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Speaker 7: a small program. I do think the fact that they

674
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Speaker 7: were really run heavy and some of the stuff he

675
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Speaker 7: had to do maybe was. But when you talk about

676
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Speaker 7: the receiver background, I did remember reading that about him

677
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Speaker 7: and that was something that didn't get to really get.

678
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Speaker 7: He didn't get to really show in college like that

679
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Speaker 7: because he was doing so much blocking. They were really

680
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Speaker 7: smash mouthed, moving people out the way type of offense.

681
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Speaker 7: So with him, I touched base with him, as you

682
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Speaker 7: lady said, I touch base with him at the beginning

683
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Speaker 7: of the season. I always like to talk to the

684
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Speaker 7: players that I've watched film on because I'm like, hey, hey,

685
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Speaker 7: I saw.

686
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Speaker 6: You, and I told him.

687
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Speaker 7: I asked him to be honest with me about where

688
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Speaker 7: he felt like he was at this point. This was

689
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Speaker 7: weeks ago, and he mentioned that he felt like he

690
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Speaker 7: needed to be better sealing off his blocks. He mentioned

691
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Speaker 7: that he felt like he needed to be able to

692
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Speaker 7: sustain blocks longer and be more physically imposing as he

693
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Speaker 7: did in college. Now he still got to get his

694
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Speaker 7: big man body.

695
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Speaker 5: He's a big man. He's not in.

696
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Speaker 6: This big man body though, yet, because.

697
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Speaker 7: We saw a significant differ friends between Jake Ferguson. Even

698
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Speaker 7: so if you look at schoolmakers frame and stuff, you

699
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Speaker 7: can tell it's changed from year to year. So but

700
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Speaker 7: the attitude that he's come in with, as you said,

701
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Speaker 7: has helped, and you have slowly but surely start seeing

702
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Speaker 7: him taking strides. I personally thought going back and watching him,

703
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Speaker 7: whereas it wasn't perfect, I thought this was his best

704
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 7: game that he's played this season thus far as a blocker,

705
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Speaker 7: but also showing confidence.

706
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Speaker 6: As a receiver.

707
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Speaker 7: I think it is going to be important because of

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Speaker 7: everything you just said his collegiate career as well, that

709
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Speaker 7: they that the coaches instill that confidence in him and

710
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Speaker 7: again as a receiver and allow him to build that

711
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Speaker 7: because it's in there.

712
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Speaker 5: It's in there.

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Speaker 7: But it's fair to say that it's kind of been

714
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Speaker 7: pushed to the side because he has been known for

715
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Speaker 7: his blocking and that's what he does. And I do

716
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Speaker 7: think he has some versatility. We talk about the size.

717
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Speaker 6: He can be a red zone threat.

718
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Speaker 5: He has some wiggle in.

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Speaker 6: The passing game. I think he can really develop into

720
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Speaker 6: a good piece.

721
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Speaker 7: And him kind of grow during this time. It's going

722
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Speaker 7: to be pivotal. So I would like to have him

723
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Speaker 7: back next year. Cowboys paid him some some change. He's

724
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Speaker 7: one of the highest paid undrafted free agents in this

725
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Speaker 7: free agency. This undrafted free agency, so there are some

726
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Speaker 7: expectations there. Hopefully he can pull the reins a little

727
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Speaker 7: bit and really hone in on that tight end two spot.

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Speaker 9: Let's as the season goes on. Wouldn't you love to

729
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Speaker 9: see him on some seam routes. I mean, what a matchup,

730
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Speaker 9: what a matchup? And red zone too. But in terms

731
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Speaker 9: of his you know, big boy body, he's a rookie.

732
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Speaker 9: He hasn't gone through an nf NFL off season conditioning

733
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Speaker 9: program yet, so he's gonna be different when he gets

734
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Speaker 9: to training camp next year and wentz Harold and Kendall

735
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Speaker 9: and the guys Cedric you know, and the strength, strength

736
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Speaker 9: and conditioning staff have a full off season to work

737
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Speaker 9: with him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Something that he also did touch on about the confidence

740
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Speaker 2: that I usual was mentioning about, was that he did

741
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Speaker 2: say that the coaches have they understand that he's still

742
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Speaker 2: young and he still has a lot of growing to do,

743
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Speaker 2: but they are very patient.

744
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Speaker 6: They're not.

745
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Speaker 2: I won't to use the word force, Yeah, I'll use forcing.

746
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Speaker 2: They're not forcing it to or yeah, they're not forcing it.

747
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Speaker 5: And if he does make mistakes.

748
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Speaker 2: They're open about it. Like of course behind the closed doors,

749
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Speaker 2: of course they're gonna get on, you know. But he

750
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Speaker 2: did say that like at the end of the day, yes,

751
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Speaker 2: they're coaches, but they're also understanding that he does have

752
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Speaker 2: a lot of growing to do in this in NFL.

753
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Speaker 8: And I will say that tight End Room as a whole,

754
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Speaker 8: you know, there's been speculation about belief in systems and

755
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 8: coaches and blah blah blah on the outside, But what

756
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Speaker 8: I will say is undoubtedly that tight End Room will

757
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 8: always hype up Lunda Wells.

758
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Speaker 5: That is the first thing that.

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Speaker 8: They will always say is how much respect that they

760
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Speaker 8: have for Lunda as their coach. They take what he

761
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Speaker 8: says to heart, and his approach with it is very understanding.

762
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Speaker 8: To your point, Nicole, it's not going to force you

763
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Speaker 8: to do something that you're not ready to do. He

764
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Speaker 8: understands where they're all at in the positions that they're at,

765
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Speaker 8: in the timing of their careers that they're at, and

766
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Speaker 8: he works with them individually. It's not a one size

767
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Speaker 8: fits all kind of circumstance with Lunda. From what I understand,

768
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Speaker 8: it's very much individualized and they are bought into it.

769
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Speaker 8: That tight End Room has not wavered on any kind

770
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Speaker 8: of faith with their tight End coach. They're bought in

771
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Speaker 8: on Lunda. They respect the hell out of him, and yeah,

772
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 8: for me. It says a lot when you ask a player.

773
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Speaker 10: Like, hey, you know you're gonna get your opportunity this week.

774
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Speaker 8: And the first thing that he said was I have

775
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 8: to give credit to Lunda because I've been prepared for this,

776
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 8: Like that was the first thing he said, And usually

777
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Speaker 8: that's kind of not what players would typically credit first.

778
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Speaker 7: That's the downside of like what's going on right now

779
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 7: and them having a losing season and how things kind

780
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 7: of feel right now, is like, I think Lunda Wills

781
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 7: has done a fantastic job as the tight end coaches

782
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Speaker 7: since he's been here, and you've mentioned that a lot

783
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 7: of the players respect him. But he's also very personable. Yeah,

784
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 7: he will teach you about the game. He will give

785
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 7: you information if you have the moment too. But I

786
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Speaker 7: think we have seen some guy his career flur here,

787
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Speaker 7: Adulton Schultz, obviously Jake Ferguson at this point. We've seen

788
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 7: guys kind of trend up with him here. So we'll see,

789
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 7: we'll see, we'll.

790
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Speaker 2: See who has to who has to they all bet

791
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: a step up, who has to play well? When you're

792
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Speaker 2: just talking about this tight end room, specifically on Sunday

793
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Speaker 2: against the Commanders.

794
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Speaker 8: Obviously we're talking about Brevan. Yeah, I'm gonna go Luke

795
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Speaker 8: schoon Maker. And I will say that not just for

796
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Speaker 8: this game. I will say for the rest of the season,

797
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Speaker 8: because before you know it, that off season is going

798
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Speaker 8: to creep up. If Brevin continues to be on the

799
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800
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Speaker 8: on a chopping block situation, especially if you get the

801
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Speaker 8: John Stevens healthy John Stevens Junior back. You go back

802
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Speaker 8: to that competition that we were talking about in the

803
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804
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Speaker 8: Brevan span Ford.

805
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Speaker 5: It's still up for Crabs guys.

806
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Speaker 8: That tight end two spot is not solidified, and if

807
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 8: Luke wants it enough, he can go back and grab

808
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 8: It's it's not solidified yet.

809
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Speaker 10: But he has to play with.

810
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 8: The fire in him like you just haven't seen it yet,

811
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Speaker 8: and so he's been consistent when he needs to be.

812
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Speaker 8: I just want to see him try to fight for

813
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Speaker 8: that tight end to position more.

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Speaker 7: all right on.

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Speaker 2: we love Yes, all right, who do you expect to

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Speaker 2: make you smile on Sunday?

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Speaker 9: And why Rico and the Cowboys run game, because Washington,

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Speaker 9: if they have a little bit of an achilles heel.

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Speaker 9: It is their run defense third worst in the league,

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00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 9: allowing just over one hundred and fifty rushing yards a game.

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Speaker 9: And so, Nicole, you mentioned earlier that the Cowboys run

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Speaker 9: game is doing better, but just not consistently. And so

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Speaker 9: I think that if the run game gets untracked that

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Speaker 9: it would be this Sunday.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go Jalen Tolbert, I know, little little spin

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Speaker 8: move here, and that's because again I will die on

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Speaker 8: this hill.

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Speaker 10: You're gonna see more of the Jalen Tolberts.

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Speaker 8: Jalen Brooks, you know, kind of have their uprise with

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Speaker 8: Cooper Rushian because they get.

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Speaker 5: More of their practice time together, so that trust is there.

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Speaker 8: For me, it's an obvious that if CD's expected to

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Speaker 8: play might take a little tick down, and snaps might

902
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Speaker 8: Cavante Turpin obviously going to get an increase in snaps.

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Speaker 8: So obviously those two things make me smile. But when

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Speaker 8: you're spading the ball around more and I.

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Speaker 10: Think you're gonna get more of a Jalen Tolbert involvement.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go a Jalen Tolbert because Cooper Rush seems

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Speaker 8: to have that trust in there.

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00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 5: Jalen Tolbert has that trust And.

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Speaker 8: For me, I just know Jalen is chomping at the

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Speaker 8: bit to have his moment.

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Speaker 5: Because he's ready for it. So I'm going Jaila.

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Speaker 6: Tober what's gonna Maami smile? Who uh?

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Speaker 11: Who?

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Speaker 5: Who's uh?

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Speaker 7: If Ron Bland gets to finally take the field across

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Speaker 7: from Trayvon Diggs, and again, they're both coming off of injuries.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of recovery year for them. I think it

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Speaker 7: could still be a nice little peak look see into

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Speaker 7: what this secondary could look like next year with those

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Speaker 7: two guys at corner. And I think with those guys healthy,

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Speaker 7: they're gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 8: So are they gonna be anything? But yes, I haven't

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Speaker 8: been able to say that for nine How that's.

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Speaker 6: A meter where she was. I guess you can dig it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I'm so proud.

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Speaker 6: It's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what about I was gonna say, Rico, sorry,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to.

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Speaker 6: Please say?

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Speaker 2: So we can get with the we all gotta be different.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Covante Turpin because he had a

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Speaker 2: hell of a game last week, sixty four yard touchdown reception.

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Speaker 2: I thought that it was impressive.

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Speaker 6: I think that, of course.

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Speaker 2: Well with the Commanders, they run a little bit more

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Speaker 2: zone than they do man. But if they do run

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Speaker 2: a little bit of man, tryumph. Let's try then, come

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Speaker 2: and use some kvanteur, sister, let's talk about speed.

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Speaker 5: All right, this has been great. Anything on that.

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Speaker 2: Wait, we got picks.

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Speaker 6: Haha, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: We need score predictions. Go and we ain't done this

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Speaker 2: in a minute. Yeah, it's fine, we got we got.

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Speaker 9: Twenty three twenty one.

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Speaker 6: Who I'll go Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, thanks for watching.

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Speaker 6: I'll go seventeen twenty two.

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Speaker 7: Commanders.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I'm gonna go, twenty five, twenty one commanders.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, I'm gonna go, stressing me out. Twenty one commanders.

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Speaker 8: Oh at the edge of our seats here fourteen cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, at least it scored two Tdso.

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't know or Brandon Aubrey really putting in

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Speaker 8: that work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, on that note, hopefully the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Do prove us wrong and get the win on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Because that would be amazing.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's the Rapper Girl, Star Boys, Talk person

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Speaker 2: riding and Visil Line. I'm Nicle Hutcheson alongside I Asian Morrison,

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Speaker 2: j Justin Varez, and Christy Scales. Will be back here

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Speaker 2: next week.

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