1 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back another week, another edition 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: of the Late Kick Extra podcast. I'm Josh Paint. We're 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: just talking to a ton of college football this morning 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: or afternoon, depending on where you are. It's wall to wall, 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: it's jam packed, and I have got a bunch of 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: good news. I'm just gonna unload the good news on you, Okay. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: So I don't, to be honest with you, I don't 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: even know if I'm allowed to share this. Better to 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: ask for forgiveness than permission, especially when the news is 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: this good. So, as you know, if you've looked at 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: a calendar lately, it's June, and that doesn't matter where 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: you are. It's just June everywhere right now. And our 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: numbers are it through the roof, and that's not supposed 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: to be that way. So it's got a lot of 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: data science types around here really fumbling through spreadsheets and 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: whatnot trying to figure it out. But I have figured 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: it out. We figured it out a while back when 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: we started saying no off season and if you type it, 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: you just put the X instead of the oh, so 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: you can actually spelled the rest of the word out. 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: When we started saying that a few months ago. We 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: got great feedback on that, and it became kind of 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: a mantra for the show. It became kind of an attitude. Now, 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: we were never going to slow down our production schedule anyway, 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: but it kind of reinforced that point and hammered at home, 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: and a lot of you picked up on it, and 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: a lot of you started adding it to your vernacular 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: when you email me, when you tweet me, when you 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: dm me, when you tag me on Instagram. Well, here's 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: what else happened. It kind of got ingrained into all 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: of our subconsciousness plural of whatever subconscious is. It got ingrained. 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: And not only did you pay attention and stay with 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: me through the entire offseason, you brought friends, and I've 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: got evidence in front of me. We are up fifteen 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: percent month over month. That means we got fifteen percent 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: more people listening to this thing in June than we 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: did May. And here's the real kicker, we got twenty 38 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: five more percent listening than we did in April. So 39 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: the show is growing leaps and bounds in a time 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: of year where we're supposed to be in some kind 41 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: of pseudo hibernation. So thank you for that. Continue to 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: spread the good word, and we will continue to spend 43 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: zero dollars and zero cents on marketing this thing, and 44 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: we'll still get it out to the masses. Anyway. Here's 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: the other piece of good news. I was looking at 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: some of our demographic breakdowns, and it may come as 47 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: a shock to you, but we have a growing female 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: audience here. We are not at fifty to fifty by 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: any stretch, but we have a growing female audience. So ladies, 50 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: thank you an extra special thank you for listening to 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: something that, again the experts say, don't even worry about 52 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: You're never gonna have a big enough female audience on 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: any kind of college football podcast to market to or mentioned. Well, 54 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: they were wrong. I know. Shocker, shocker, shocker. They were wrong. 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: So thank you, Come one, come all. That's our motto 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: around here, and let's get to a mail bag. We 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: got a loaded mail bag this morning. We've got a 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: very very diverse batch of questions here. Some I think 59 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: we're meant to be critical of me, but I'm gonna 60 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: turn them around and I'm going to turn them into 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: entertainment as best I can. So the way to get 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: in touch with the show. Josh paid seven zero six 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com or follow me and dm me 64 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram, at Late Kick Josh. Those channels well 65 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: more little thank you to slip in here. Those channels 66 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: have started growing pretty rapidly since I've been asking you 67 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: to do that, and so just follow me on those 68 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot. I know I've said this 69 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: and you haven't seen it yet, but that's only because 70 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: the time period is quickly coming when you will see it. 71 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: I've told you there are going to be things on 72 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: those platforms, especially Instagram and Twitter, that you will not 73 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: see on the show, and you will not even hear 74 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: on the podcast. So I encourage you, if not outright 75 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: implore you follow me at Late Kick Josh and get 76 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: five friends to do it too. I think you're doing 77 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: that actually, because I'm seeing a whole lot of growth there. 78 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: So let's dive in with that. Said to the mail 79 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: bag this morning, Kevin's going to kick us off. He's 80 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: speaking for a number of you. As you know, Arizona 81 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: State's being investigated right now, and it's a very public 82 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: story and some of you have taken notice of how 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: public it is. So here's what Kevin and a number 84 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: of you have said to me, why is there so 85 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: much coverage on Late Kick of Arizona State's investigation, but 86 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: you aren't even touching on the Michigan abuse scandal or 87 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: anything related to LSU. So Kevin was kind of mad 88 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: when he asked this. I've already corresponded with him privately. 89 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: But I'm glad a number of you brought this up 90 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: because it would have not really registered with me that 91 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: you were picking up on this. So this is a 92 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: fair question or fair questions, because there were a bunch 93 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: of them. Think about being in my position, all right, 94 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: you are producing a college football show. You are priding 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: yourself on sticking to college football recruiting and on field. 96 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: I mean, that's largely what we talked about to about 97 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: a ninety to ninety five percent clip around here. That's 98 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: what you ask for. I draw a very very fine line, 99 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: and it's not something we ever cross when it comes 100 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: to what we will and won't cover, and a lot 101 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: of the more scandalous off field type stuff, the only 102 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: time I'm going to touch it is if it starts 103 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: to bleed in or it starts to overlap with affecting 104 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: on field. Now that includes what's happening at Michigan right now. 105 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: For example, the Beau Shaim Beckler allegations. I looked at that. 106 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: I followed the story just like you guys may have. 107 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: But I've thought about it and I've I've thought about 108 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: it within the context of our show, and I don't 109 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: think that there's anything substantive that I can add to 110 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: it on our show because it's not going to impact 111 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Michigan today and moving forward on the field. And if 112 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: it's not, I'm not touching it. That doesn't mean it 113 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be addressed, that doesn't mean it's not important. 114 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: It's very important. The allegation should absolutely be taken seriously. 115 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: There are other platforms on which people are going to 116 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: talk about that if you are seeking that. So that's 117 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: all I say about the Michigan deal. With the LSU situation, 118 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: and this has been festering for a little while. There 119 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: are a number of allegations about things that have happened 120 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: off the field but could very well impact LSU on 121 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: the field. The reason I have not delved into that 122 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: as of yet is because that's what they are at 123 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: this point. They're allegations, and their allegations that are serious. Again, 124 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: so I don't want to make light of any of this. 125 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: But then there's a third aspect here. Some of you 126 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: may already be yelling it as you're listening. Well, Josh, 127 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: you just said that you're not touching on LSU because 128 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: those are merely allegations, whereas Arizona State, that's all we 129 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: have there. All we have are allegations there too. Here's 130 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: the way I'll explain it to you. It is a 131 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: very unique situation at Arizona State. I don't think we 132 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: see this very often. In fact, I don't remember ever 133 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: a time where there was this public an ongoing NC 134 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: DOUBLEA investigation into a program. Think about what an NC 135 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: DOUBLEA investigation normally is. It's normally like what we're seeing 136 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: at Tennessee right now. Even the most diehard of Tennessee fans, 137 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: those of you who follow that program on a day 138 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: to day basis, you have no clue what's going on 139 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: with the NC DOUBLEA investigation. It's always cloaked in secrecy. 140 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: Hardly ever, do you see an ongoing investigation where all 141 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: the details are out in the public. And the reason 142 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: is because you normally don't have willing participants with first 143 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: hand knowledge willing to go to media, not just to 144 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: assist in the investigation, but to also, in a parallel world, 145 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: cooperate with media. So you've seen Pete Famil over at 146 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: Yahoo Sports, or you've seen Bruce Feldman and the guys 147 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: over it over at the Athletic They've had every bit 148 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: of information at every turn in this. So we're seeing 149 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: it simultaneous to NCAA investigators seeing it, and it has 150 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: to do directly with football, directly with recruiting. And it's 151 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: not something that has another layer to it. You know, 152 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: there is not a sex abuse layer, there is not 153 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: a domestic violence layer to it. And so the reason 154 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: I have personally, and I think a lot of other 155 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: people have taken the same approach, The reason I have 156 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: talked a whole lot more about Arizona State thus far 157 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: than I have LSU is because there's a whole lot 158 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: more that is known. It feels to me like and 159 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: it's out there and directly related to football about the 160 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: Arizona State investigation as opposed to the LSU investigation. Now, 161 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: mark my words, if something were to happen, you know, 162 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: if let's say, and this is purely hypothetic, well, let's 163 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: say ed Orgeron or a head coach anywhere was directly 164 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: implicated in something like that and they lost their job, 165 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: they were terminated. I'd be leading every show for three 166 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: weeks straight with that, and it would happen if it 167 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: were the case with LSU. So that's in a very 168 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: much remains to be sort of prism. But right now 169 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: we are seeing it with Arizona State. So it's nothing personal. 170 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't have some vendetta against Arizona State, but I 171 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: think that we've chosen to handle it on Lake Kick 172 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: the way we have because of the unprecedented nature of 173 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 1: how public the entire thing is played out. You guys 174 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: who follow college football, I mean, we all know you 175 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: never see this happen. You never ever see this happen. 176 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: And also I think Arizona State's a big time program. 177 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: I think a little more highly of the stature maybe 178 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: of Arizona State as a program than a lot of 179 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: the viewers and listeners, judging by your feedback. So the 180 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: thing I think about with Arizona State is not only 181 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: will or won't HERM Edwards keep his job, but I 182 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: think two steps down the road, if that were to 183 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: happen there and that job we're open well that impacts 184 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve and twenty twenty one on the field, obviously, 185 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: but it also opens up what I think is one 186 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: of the most underrated good jobs in college football, and 187 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: then you never know who may land that job. So 188 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot on the table here that I think 189 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: directly impacts college football on field and recruiting right now, 190 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: and that's what we use this show to talk about 191 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: as we roll on here. All right, I got two 192 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: questions I think I need to gather. One is from Peter. 193 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: One is from John. So we have what one sixth 194 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: of the disciples in the inbox this morning, all right, 195 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: So these two are kind of connected, so I want 196 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: to ask them both, and I'm going to kind of 197 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: address them as one. So John said, is Kyle McCord 198 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: the next Joe Burrow. Kyle McCord, for those unfamiliar, is 199 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback at Ohio State right now, So let's just 200 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: table that. Also, John says, and it's totally unnecessary that 201 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: I read this, but I'm going to do it anyway 202 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. Best college football podcast out there, Thank you. 203 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: All right, I just felt that was necessary, Thank you, John. 204 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: And then also Peter, Now this is a little bit longer, 205 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: but it really ties everything together. He said. Let's say 206 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: c J. Stroud balls out this year. C J. Stroud 207 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: is probably going to start for Ohio State at quarterback 208 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: and is legitimately in another competition at the start of 209 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: next season with Quinn Youewers coming on board. Quinn Ewers 210 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: is the number one quarterback in the next cycle who 211 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: is currently committed to Ohio State. So you got a 212 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: guy right now who's going to start and in all 213 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: likelihood be a stud. And then you got the number 214 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: one quarterback some people think in several cycles coming in 215 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: next year, who's going to be expected to start as 216 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: a true freshman by many people. All Right, there was 217 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: a lot of paraphrasing there and a lot of editorializing, 218 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: But we continue with Peter's question. Could we see a 219 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant Trevor Lawrence two point zero situation in Columbus 220 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: next year. I'm personally high on Kyle McCord and Lord 221 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: only knows where hit transfer if this becomes the case, 222 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: but someone would gladly scoop him up. Thanks again for 223 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: creating such an authentic atmosphere to share our love for 224 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: this great American sport. You know. It was also I 225 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: think in the end necessary for me to read that 226 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: last part. So this may seem complicated to those of 227 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: you who are unfamiliar with the roster situation at Ohio State. 228 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: Here's the deal. They got a stockpile of quarterbacks there currently. 229 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: So they have Jack Miller, who most do not think 230 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: is going to be in the starting rotation there. They 231 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: have Kyle McCord, who would probably start at most places 232 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: but doesn't figure to be the starter for Ohio State 233 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: this year. And they have c. J. Stroud, who probably 234 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: is going to be their starter. You haven't seen any 235 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: of them start yet. Unless you're a Buckeye fan, you 236 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: probably don't know a whole lot about these names. Okay, 237 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: so that's their current situation. Then if you hit the 238 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: fast forward button to next signing day, in comes quinn Ewers. 239 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: So this time next fall, quinn Ewers will be there. 240 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: He has a mullet to end all mullets. He is 241 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: on senior this year in high school. He's the number 242 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: one quarterback in the country. And so the question essentially is, 243 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: regardless of who starts for Ohio State this year, are 244 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: they going to be the starter next year? Or is 245 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: Quinn you were is going to be so good that 246 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: he comes in here and just takes the job regardless. 247 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: And then that circles back to the question that Peter 248 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: had there, could we see one of those Kelly Bryant 249 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence situations? Now, if you'll remember, what was it 250 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, maybe twenty eighteen, let me think, hold on, 251 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: it was twenty seventeen, how was at this game? So 252 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant is the guy that was starting at Clemson 253 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: between the Deshaun Watson era and the Trevor Lawrence era. 254 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: A lot of people revisionist history just put those two 255 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: eras together. No, there was one transition year. It was 256 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant. And so Kelly Bryant takes Clemson as you 257 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: usually do these days, at Clemson, still wins the ACC 258 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: They go to the Sugar Bowl semi finally gets to Alabama, 259 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: Obama handles them pretty good, and then Trevor Lawrence comes 260 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: in the next year. So what we're asking here is 261 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: could we have a one year stop gap between the 262 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Justin Fields era and the Quinn Ewers era. This is 263 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: not out of the realm of possibility. What I'll tell 264 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: you is if that's the case and CJ. Stroud is 265 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: that guy, I think CJ. Stroud is a whole lot better, 266 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: potentially a whole lot better quarterback than Kelly Bryant was. 267 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: So if he ends up going somewhere else, I think 268 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be a situation where he goes probably 269 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: somewhere a little more high profile than the Missouri all 270 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: due respect to the Tigers, and could compete for a 271 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: national championship somewhere. See you, I think it was John 272 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: John asked could Kyle McCord be the next Joe Burrow? 273 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: And what he meant by that is, well, McCord's not 274 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: even going to start at Ohio State this year, just 275 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: like Burrow didn't start at Ohio State when he was there. 276 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: Is he good enough to go somewhere else and win 277 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: a title. I'm not going to go as far as 278 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: to say next Joe Burrow or he could go win 279 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: a title. I think he could be a very effective 280 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: quarterback for a major Power five program down the road. Yes, 281 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: But then even if CJ. Stroud wins the job this year, 282 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: are we looking at the situation where there is the 283 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: hottest quarterback battle in America in Columbus, Ohio this time 284 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: next year and we're asking the same question, could we 285 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: see a transfer from a guy who was a starter 286 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: last year? It's it seems messy to a non competitive person. 287 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: A competitive person just starts drooling over this cause it's 288 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: just it's fun. It's competition, and it's not really that 289 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: you lose it. Because even if you're CJ. Stroud and 290 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: you play a really really good season this year and 291 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: then Quinn Ewers comes in and he's better than you 292 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: next year, yeah, okay, you lost the job, and maybe 293 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: you do transfer somewhere, but it doesn't make you a loser. 294 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: You competed at the highest level and you couldn't quite 295 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: overcome someone who is ultra talented and committed to that 296 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: process too. That's not being a loser. Being a loser 297 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: is shying away from the competition to begin with and 298 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: just tucking your tail and never realizing your true potential 299 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: because you're totally intimidated by the situation. That's how you lose. 300 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: So there are no real losers in this whole situation. 301 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: I do think, though, to answer both of you and 302 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: many others who are going to be asking about this, 303 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: the Ohio State quarterback room over the next twenty four months. 304 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: Gonna be really really fun to watch. Oh, so I 305 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: forgot to tell you this too. So Peter asked a 306 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: second part to the question. He emailed me back. Normally, 307 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: when you guys email me and you say, here's my question, 308 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: i'll let you know if it's going to get answered, 309 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: I'll email you back say I'm going to hit this 310 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: on the podcast this morning or next Thursday. And so 311 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I hit Peter back. I said, I got you, man, 312 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit this on the podcast. He said, Hey, 313 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: I had a part two. I forgot to give it 314 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: to you. Well, Peter. Luckily for you, my friend, I 315 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: am recording right now. And Peter asked it was kind 316 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: of non football related, but I wanted to know what 317 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: was the longest distance that you ever train hopped and 318 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: do you have any good stories that you haven't told yet. Well, 319 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: I cannot answer the first part because that could give 320 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: away some strategic mile post and geographical reference points that 321 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: are still in use today. I hope I haven't been 322 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: unclear there, but I can tell you this back in 323 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: the day, the first time I ever hopped a train, 324 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: it was a ballast train. That's the ones you see 325 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: where they just carry rocks all over the place, the 326 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: same rocks, ironically that you end up seeing on the 327 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: side of railroad tracks. So there's a rock quarry back 328 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: where I'm from, in Fortune, and this is in Georgia. 329 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: It's just north of Columbus, and they run they may 330 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: still do it now. They run a train up there 331 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: once a night to pick up all the full rock 332 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: cars from all the dynamiting they've done that day, and 333 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: they bring the empty cars back up there from the 334 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: day before. So my friend and I know, now that 335 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: I think about it, this is a pretty juicy story 336 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: because I almost went to jail. It was almost a 337 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: really really bad night for us. We've never been on 338 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: a train before, and I don't advise you to ever 339 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: do it. Out there, kids, if you're listening. But let's 340 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: just pretend this is a fiction novel, so fictitious. JP 341 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: and his buddies are out in the woods and we're waiting. 342 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: We have scouted this thing out. We know the routine. 343 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: Every night they bring the empties up and then they 344 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: pull the full cars off a side track, and then 345 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: the engines have to go from the back of the 346 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: train to the front of the train, and that's when 347 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna make our move, and we're gonna climb up 348 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: on top of those ballast cars. First foolish notion you 349 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: can just sit on top of ballast cars and ride 350 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: it like it's a carnival fair ride. Well it's not, 351 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: but we learned that later on. But we do get 352 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: up on top, and so we're up there, We're good 353 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: to go. Here come the engines buy, so they're headed 354 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: to the front of the train. We're probably about fifteen 355 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: or twenty cars back, so we got plenty of time 356 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: to kill. And here we are in forts and Georgia, 357 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: right there in the middle of the dark, outside the 358 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: rock quarry, sitting on top of a ballast car, no 359 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: care in the world. We're laughing and joking, and then 360 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, flashlights and what we did not 361 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: realize in all of our scouting runs, we did not 362 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: observe that some dude who switches that track at the 363 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: back of the train has to make the slow, arduous 364 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: walk to the front of the train. Now ninety nine 365 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: times out of one hundred, it's probably boring because they 366 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: don't hear a ton of fifteen year old voices coming 367 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: from the top of a rail car, but this night 368 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: was different, and so the light shines on top of 369 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: the car. We are busted. We should be busted. But 370 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: the guy ends up and I don't know what for, 371 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: probably because he valued his life a lot more than 372 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: to find out who was up there. He just kept going. 373 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: He heard us clearly, and he kept going. We should 374 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: have gotten off, We did not. We were foolish and 375 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: we were really desperate to be able to tell our buddies. 376 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: The next day we finally successfully hopped the train, and 377 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: so we did. So here we go. We're going to 378 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: be pulled. It's only about ten or fifteen miles down 379 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: the track. We're going to go down to Columbus, and 380 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: we know where we're going to hop off at. Well, 381 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: so do they. Unfortunately, so on the way. Here is 382 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: the downside to riding on top of a railcar. We 383 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: got slapped in the face in the middle of pitch 384 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: black dart going through the country with I don't know 385 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: what kind of tree it was. It did some damage though, 386 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: cut my face all up and so that was part one. 387 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: So we're already battered and bruised and terrified, not as 388 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: much as we should have been, but we're terrified. So 389 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: here we come. We're rolling to a stop at the 390 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: place where we're planning on jumping off. Train slows down enough, 391 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: train comes to a stop. Here we go, we're ready 392 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: for the dismount. We dismount, and there he is about 393 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: ten cars away from us, just standing there like the 394 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: alien in signs, just standing there. And so we take 395 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: off running and we had to run down a very 396 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: very steep hill, not meant for running at all. This 397 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: was for a reference point. If you're in Columbus, behind 398 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: what used to be Fazzoli's Italian Restaurant is now I 399 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: think as Zaxby's Caddy corner to sheff Lee's restaurant peaking too, 400 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: sheff Lee's Peaking two. And so it got ugly. So 401 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: that night we learned a lot of lessons that we 402 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: apply now. Never hopped to ballast train again in my life. 403 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: But that was a story that in retrospect is fun, 404 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: but at the time was not fun at all, because 405 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: then you get home and you worry about whether someone 406 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: has your information or not. Mind you, we're like sixteen, 407 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: we're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old, and so we don't 408 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: know exactly how far surveillance goes in our country, and 409 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: we don't know exactly how much sway the folks at 410 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Norfolk Southern were to have with the NSSA, and we 411 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: have no clue. So we just live a very very sheltered, 412 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: terrified life for the next week or so, and eventually 413 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: the cloud lifted and we'd lived to tell another day. 414 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: But the question remains, what happens if they catch us 415 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: that night? Juvie, that's what happens. Goodbye Hope Scholarship. I'm juco. 416 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: At best, it would have changed things forever. Instead of 417 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: Late Kick Live, you're watching Chain Gang Live probably still 418 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: every Sunday and Thursday. But it would have been just 419 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: a totally different vibe. So I'm glad that we were 420 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: able to get away that night and now very very 421 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: strategic as to how we go about things. Again, that 422 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: is a fictitious story. Let me state for the record, 423 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: totally fictitious. Thank you for your time, wink wink. All right, 424 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: we move on this morning. We've got a really good 425 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: question here about the entire state of affairs in the 426 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: SEC West. There's been a lot of talk about this, 427 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: and we talk about the SEC West a lot anyway, 428 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: But there's been a whole lot of talk about the 429 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: hierarchy over there behind Alabama. I'm gonna touch on this 430 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: when we come back. So there are too many questions here. 431 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: I think I've got about two or three dozen of 432 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: them that, in some shape form or fashion, ask about 433 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: how the SEC West shakes out behind Alabama. And some 434 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: of you are just adamant that LSU should be listed 435 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: number two program. Some of you think A and M 436 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: should be listed number two program. And there is even 437 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: a surprising amount of Old Miss. There's no way you 438 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: list Old Miss as the second best program in the 439 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: SEC West right now. Even if they were to finish 440 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: number two in the West this year, it wouldn't necessarily 441 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: see them ascend to number two program status. We define 442 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: program and team differently, at least on this show. A 443 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: program's a three or four year snapshot of you, and 444 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: a team is a one year snapshot of you. That's 445 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: why Florida is not the number one program in the 446 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: East right now. I also need to talk about Florida 447 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: a little bit more. There's growing speculation out there that 448 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: I don't like Florida, and a lot of circumstantial evidence 449 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: has been put together sort of in our own little 450 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: mini dossier. I had a Gator fan the other day 451 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: present the evidence as he called it to me, and 452 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: it's false. So I will be found not guilty on this, 453 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: but it could have to go to trial my disdain 454 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: for Florida as an allegation. We could have to put 455 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: it on trial down the road. It probably would make 456 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: a pretty half decent segment. I just have to find 457 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: the right prosecutor. To this point, I have not found 458 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: that prosecutor, but the search continues. As Bobby Bouchet once said, 459 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: so back to the sec West. The way I see 460 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: it is this, I think A and M is position 461 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: as the number two program there. But when I talk 462 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: about it, all context always gets thrown out the window. 463 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: I've tried to do this a couple of times. Doesn't 464 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: matter how much I caveat things and how much I 465 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: preface things. I just there's a certain portion of the 466 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: viewing audience. This normally happens on YouTube that don't want 467 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: to hear it. So if I tell you, for example, 468 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: when I say I think Texas A and M's the 469 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: number two program over there, I mean what I think 470 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: they're going to be doing from this point. Moving forward, 471 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: if I were to say the next three or four years, 472 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: try and invest in one program, I would think behind Alabama, 473 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: A and M would be the next I would want 474 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: to invest in. Recruiting is there. You've got to prove 475 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: and commodity at coach. I don't have the unrest off 476 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: the field right now, whether you like it or not 477 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: that we have at LSU. I have to factor all 478 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: that in. We're kind of guessing. We're guessing which program 479 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: is going to be second best. If I state it 480 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: like that, to me, that sounds pretty clear, but inevitably 481 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: someone comes in my inbox and says, well, how could 482 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: you pick a program that hasn't won a national championship 483 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: over one that won one and three and then seven 484 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: and then nineteen. It's like the one. The way I 485 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: can do that is because none of those years have 486 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: anything to do with the time period I'm talking about. 487 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: But again, context gets thrown out the window. So I'll 488 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: just put it like this, Take it however you want to. Yes, 489 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: I think Alabama's the number one program by a wide 490 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: margin in the SEC West right now, and I think 491 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: it's Texas A and M at number two right now. 492 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: For me, LSU at number three. I think the biggest 493 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: argument is at number four, because Auburn fans are going 494 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: to absolutely tell you they belong at four. I'm not 495 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: going to push back hard on that. I'm just going 496 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: to tell you there is certainly an argument to be 497 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: made for ole Miss when you get down there. I 498 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: just don't think there's a big gap there. There's a 499 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: gap between one and two. Now, for the record, I 500 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: don't think there's a wide gap or anything like that 501 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: between where A and M is and LSU is. And Look, ultimately, 502 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: why I don't do a whole lot of these segments 503 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: is because where a program is does not determine who 504 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: wins on the field. I go back to the SEC East. 505 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: I think if we pulled our listening on and I 506 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: would agree with the results here, most of you would 507 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: say this year, last year, year before last, and next 508 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: year you believe Georgia to be the top program in 509 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: the SEC East. Well, who won the game in Jacksonville 510 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: last year? Did it matter at any point on that scoreboard? 511 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: Did they subtract points from the Gators and Adam to 512 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: the Bulldogs because they got the better program? No, so 513 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: this doesn't matter nearly as much as some in our 514 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: audience want to make it matter. Now, I say it 515 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: in love. As always, if you want to talk about it, 516 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: I'll talk about it. But I would just I answer 517 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: back all the time. Here's my answer, And why do 518 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: we care so much? Measurements of teams on a Saturday afternoon, 519 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: that's what matters. That's what I want to spend a 520 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: majority of our time talking about how your team looks 521 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: this year. And yes, then you can tie it into program, 522 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: but I talk about status of program a lot more 523 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: when it comes time to recruit and talk about recruiting 524 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: than it does this time of year when it's just 525 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: time to talk about it. Who's going to win on 526 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: the field? Before I moved to the next question, I 527 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: don't think I've talked about this enough. And a lot 528 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: of you were new. You were not here last year, 529 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: and you weren't watching when we were independent. I know 530 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: right now you may be thinking, well, why don't you 531 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: do season previews? Oh, they're coming, they are coming. So 532 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: that what we do around here for Late Kick is 533 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: there are several different features we do for all of 534 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: the major and Tier two, Tier three teams, and we 535 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: wrap it all into what we call a Grand season preview. 536 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: I'm talking about everything and everything and everything that you 537 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: could ever want to know about teams. It will be 538 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: all encompassing, and so if you're a Michigan fan, or 539 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: you're a USC fan, or you're a Utah fan, or 540 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: an Alabama or Florida fan, you will get it all. 541 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: But what we want to do with this resource is 542 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: we want to make it sort of a one stop 543 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: shop where if you have been tuned out the entire 544 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: summer for some reason, I don't know why you choose 545 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: to live your life like that, but if you've been 546 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: tuned out the entire summer, these are videos you can 547 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: come to and you can listen to it. They're probably 548 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen minutes long apiece, and you know what 549 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: you need to know about those teams that's coming. It 550 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: will probably be coming later in July, and then all 551 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: of August will be doing that as well as a 552 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: lot of whispers and intel from our folks on the 553 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: ground in camps. I just tell you that because that's 554 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: why it excites me to see what our numbers have done, 555 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: Because what our numbers have done has been during a 556 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: time where we don't have nearly as much meat on 557 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: the bone, as we're about to have some of these 558 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: shows in the fall. When we get to the season. 559 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: Our Sunday night shows are four hours worth of content 560 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: packed into an hour. I go back and listen to 561 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: them sometimes and we chart the shows. I have a 562 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: rubric then I chart the shows, and I basically tally 563 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: what's in each show. And when I look at what's 564 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: on the piece of paper after I get done listening 565 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: to it and grading the shows, other than you sucked, 566 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: do better next show. Other than that, I look and 567 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: I say, this really looks like what could be stretched 568 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: into three and a half or four hours worth of 569 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: show in one hour and fifteen minutes. That's how we 570 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: do it wall to wall during the fall. So those 571 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: of you who are new just go ahead and buckle up. 572 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: Should be anyway, if you're driving around, let's pick some 573 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: random cities. Enit Oklahoma, if you're driving there, Dayton, Ohio. 574 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: Or let's go with Fairfax, Virginia, and Tucson, Arizona. So 575 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: there are four. And since it's so hot up there, 576 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: those of you in the Pacific Northwest, let's pick Olympia, Washington. 577 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: Those of you up there, I really feel for you. 578 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: It is the tough reality of what happens when you're 579 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: under one of those steep ridges. We over here in 580 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: the eastern portion of the US are enjoying some of 581 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: the greatest summer weather that we'll ever have, so I 582 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: have felt that kind of heat before. I know you 583 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: guys aren't conditioned to it, or used to it, or 584 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: built for it. So it's no different than when we 585 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: go below zero down here and everyone freaks out and 586 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: starts building igloos. I get it. Keeping you guys in 587 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: the thoughts and prayers. It is amazing to look at 588 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: from an atmospheric science standpoint, but it's just plain bad 589 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: if you have to walk out and be in it. 590 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: How did I end up talking about weather in the 591 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: oh I was talking about cities, okay, and that ties 592 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: back to what is going to be like in the fall. 593 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: You just need to bear with me. None of you 594 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: need to be privy to this. This is how I 595 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: reverse mind map to try and retrace train of thought, 596 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: so I don't just go off on a tangent with 597 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: no meaningful or purposeful ending whatsoever. I appreciate all the questions. 598 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: I am also encouraging you, so I'm putting this at 599 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: the end, so it's kind of hidden. Management normally doesn't 600 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: make it this far in the podcast, and I'm doing 601 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: it for them anyway. So whatever. You notice that we 602 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: have one little ad break during our podcast, and it's 603 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: pretty short, and half of you probably skipped through it, 604 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: even though I'm supposed to tell you not to do that. 605 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: But you'll notice when you watch Late Kick Live there 606 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: is no big advertising partner on there is there There 607 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: is no brand. It's not brought to you by, it's 608 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: not Late Kick powered by and in the past we 609 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: have not done that. Now it does not behoove me 610 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: a whole lot because I am not a salesperson. I 611 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: am just on air talent, and so this is not 612 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: my job. I'm not integrated marketing or anything like that. However, 613 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: there are some things happening around here, and there are 614 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: some opportunities, and I've had some of you reach out 615 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: in the past from some fairly high profile brand names, 616 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: and I've had to tell you, sorry, I can't do anything. 617 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this because I cannot even remember who 618 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: all's reached out in the past. If you are or 619 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: you know someone who is in position in a marketing 620 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: department and an ad sales department to place your product 621 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: on Late Kick. Reach out to me Josh paid seven 622 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: zero six at gmail dot com. It's very exploratory. I 623 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: know a lot of you guys are setting up those 624 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: budgets for the fall and you want to get your 625 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: product in front of an audience like ours. So I'm 626 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: not putting forty seven sponsors on the show. What I'm 627 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: saying is we may be looking for one or two 628 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: big partners. It's probably a national or regional type brand. 629 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, all the information you need will be provided 630 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: to you. But if you're interested in that reach out now. 631 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: It needs to be the right kind of partnership. But 632 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: if it's a good fit and we can make something work, 633 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: it could happen. JP Angels in the outfield reference about 634 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: once a month, flap your wings. It could happen. Until then. 635 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I don't know who's producing 636 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 1: the show today, so we're gonna mention Lance and Jordan. 637 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: One of them is going to bring this from my 638 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: mouth to your ears, creepy to what may sound. So 639 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. You can submit questions 640 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: for the Thursday Pod in the meantime, enjoy this one. 641 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Keep those numbers steadily rising. Friends, go tell Grandma about 642 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm sure she'd love it and contribute to 643 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: our growing female demographic. Until then, I'm Josh Baatee. Have 644 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: a great rest of your day and God bless