Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and
Speaker 1: Jet and Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: And in this nationwide war over redistricting, we've seen the
Speaker 2: two biggest states go first, the biggest red state, Texas.
Speaker 2: You mentioned those five additional seats red. Yeah, and there's
Speaker 2: not a lot of blue. They're squeezing that big time. Now,
Speaker 2: what we're seeing the opposite in California, where the Democrats
Speaker 2: under Gavin Newsom are putting a map on the ballot
Speaker 2: for voters this fall that could get them those five
Speaker 2: seats back. So that would make sure only four Republican
Speaker 2: seats forty eight for the Democrats.
Speaker 3: So we're standing up. This is not about parties. It's
Speaker 3: not about you know, redistricting lines. It's about holding the line.
Speaker 3: It's about protecting all of us, regardless of political party.
Speaker 3: It's about power at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Is it okay? So the math on that there are
Speaker 1: fifty two congressional seats in California. If Gavin gets his way,
Speaker 1: four of those will be Republican. So even though about
Speaker 1: thirty eight percent of Californian's voted Republican last time around,
Speaker 1: they would only have seven percent of the seats. So
Speaker 1: nearly forty percent of the people who vote in California
Speaker 1: vote Republican, but only seven percent of the representation in
Speaker 1: the House. Well that sounds fair. Whatever. We welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Armstrong and get his show. Our old friend
Speaker 1: Gary Dietrie. How are you, Gary, Hey, Jack, good to
Speaker 1: be with you.
Speaker 4: And one thing we now for sure, this scientific study
Speaker 4: has come out Joe Jack. There's been now more citations
Speaker 4: of redistricting in the last three days than in all
Speaker 4: of human history.
Speaker 1: I think, no, getting not a hot topic, usually says here.
Speaker 1: You are a CBS News political analyst. Now, congratulations, Well, thank.
Speaker 4: You, my friend. Yeah, you know, I've been based in
Speaker 4: the state capitol, California for some time. But you know,
Speaker 4: as things continue to grow and all the rest of
Speaker 4: the good stuff, you know, and I think they guess
Speaker 4: that make sense to them. I'm now doing national TV
Speaker 4: and radio for CBS as well.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Of course. The reason we have you on
Speaker 1: today is to talk about the backlash against the cracker
Speaker 1: barrel remodel has everybody very angry.
Speaker 4: You know, I got to tell you that's so funny
Speaker 4: you mentioned this, Jack, I was thinking over the weekend.
Speaker 4: I have never in my lifetime seen a car brand
Speaker 4: flip politically in six months, right, a bed, a beer
Speaker 4: brand flip politically in thirty days, and a beloved pancake
Speaker 4: house and I don't know, fried chicken whatever you know
Speaker 4: do the same thing in about two hours.
Speaker 1: It's undbelievable, it really is. That's a very good point.
Speaker 1: We'll have to discuss that later. You got to really
Speaker 1: watch your uh your pr currently is a big company.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we're going to talk to you about redistricting,
Speaker 1: among other things. First of all, what's the likelihood that
Speaker 1: this passes? Have you seen any polling on this in California?
Speaker 4: Yeah, in California. Here's the problem for Democrats that when
Speaker 4: the polling was done a couple of weeks ago, just
Speaker 4: on the concept would you like the Independent Citizens Commission
Speaker 4: or do you want it to go the power to
Speaker 4: go back to the legislature, Jack, This is quite remarkable
Speaker 4: to me. Actually two thirds of voters said, now, don't
Speaker 4: We don't want to go back to the legislature's control.
Speaker 4: We wanted to stay in the hands and that, by
Speaker 4: the way, wasn't just led by Republicans and a large
Speaker 4: percentage almost twenty five percent independency in California, but a
Speaker 4: vast majority, almost sixty percent of Democrats said that. So
Speaker 4: that's a big headwind. Now when you start talking about
Speaker 4: this measure in specifics, people are just beginning to get
Speaker 4: pulled on it. But right now, the most recent numbers
Speaker 4: I saw, Jack had about forty eight percent in support
Speaker 4: of it. There's a general rule of thumb in California
Speaker 4: about propositions. If you don't start your campaign, it's over
Speaker 4: fifty percent of his support. You've got a big, big
Speaker 4: road to hope.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Well that that is uh, that's good to
Speaker 1: know going forward with this. Not to READO. We just
Speaker 1: had Congressman Tom McClintock on and he kind of went
Speaker 1: through the history of jerry mandering, although he is the
Speaker 1: correct pronunciation of Gary mandering.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I want you to know I had nothing
Speaker 4: to do with that, though it's a different spelling Gary
Speaker 4: than me his that's ge r r wise, So I
Speaker 4: did not have anything to do with the start of
Speaker 4: Gary mandarin.
Speaker 1: I want you guys to know, gotcha. But so we
Speaker 1: won't go through the history of that again. But like
Speaker 1: people have been jerry mandering since the country started, there's
Speaker 1: lots of blue states that are all jerry mandered the
Speaker 1: heck as we all know. And now it's just But
Speaker 1: isn't Gavin's main goal if this gets shot down? Doesn't
Speaker 1: he want just to be the face of the resistance.
Speaker 1: Isn't that his main goal?
Speaker 4: Well? You know, you know, I never tried to get
Speaker 4: inside a politician's head. But if you look at the
Speaker 4: sort of factual evidence of that in the last twelve
Speaker 4: to eighteen months, Jack, you know very well. I mean
Speaker 4: he's been in red states all over the country, raised
Speaker 4: ten million dollars in a pack to do that, took
Speaker 4: up billboards in Florida and Texas, famously debated the governor
Speaker 4: of Florida on the Sean Hannity Show of all things.
Speaker 4: I mean, he is you know, had their own podcast,
Speaker 4: you know, the story with Bannon on it and Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's been he's been auditioning for the White
Speaker 4: House here officially unofficially for last year plus.
Speaker 1: How do you like his chances?
Speaker 4: Oh in twenty eight? Yeah, Well, well here's the deal.
Speaker 4: We have some recent numbers on that this is really interesting.
Speaker 4: In California, his own home state, he has now surged
Speaker 4: a head of Kamala Harris as California Democrats twenty eight
Speaker 4: choice hod.
Speaker 1: But CALLI Kamala Harris. I can't believe anybody's even talking
Speaker 1: about her. Still good lord, Well.
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you the numbers, okay, And Califia, California Democrats,
Speaker 4: California Democrats had her in the lead as their choice
Speaker 4: and then just in the last thirty days Gavin surgery tohead. Now, nationally,
Speaker 4: there hasn't been a lot of good national polling on
Speaker 4: this in the last couple weeks. But what's interesting, Jack,
Speaker 4: is the movement on the so called odds. Okay, Now,
Speaker 4: why are odds? Why would people care about that over polling?
Speaker 4: Because odds take in and these are being watched by
Speaker 4: the way, very carefully and reliably by many political sources
Speaker 4: in the US these days. Why because polling is one measurement,
Speaker 4: right if there's snapshot in time, it takes time to
Speaker 4: get a poll out in the field and then you
Speaker 4: get it back. Odds take into account other things. What
Speaker 4: a recent news cycles there, et cetera, et cetera. What
Speaker 4: is fundraising look like, and Gavin Newsom has moved into
Speaker 4: the lead nationally in the odds for the twenty eight
Speaker 4: race of the Democratic nomination.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, and that was his goal. He wants
Speaker 1: to be as close to as a presumptive as he
Speaker 1: can possibly get heading into the whole thing, obviously, And again,
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party doesn't have a face, They don't have
Speaker 1: a person that is like the go to resistance to
Speaker 1: Trump and everything Trump and everything that's evil and Republican.
Speaker 1: And he wants to be that he and he's making
Speaker 1: some pretty good progress on that. But so are you
Speaker 1: still now you're working for CBS? How long we've been
Speaker 1: doing this together? Gary? Twenty years, twenty five years?
Speaker 4: Okay, let me let me remind you. I'll ask you
Speaker 4: the question, Karris. Somebody asked me this was the weekend
Speaker 4: about you guys? When did you start your local show?
Speaker 4: And Sacrament of Us now ballooned into a galactic, you know,
Speaker 4: superstar radio program. Well, when did you guys start?
Speaker 1: Michael's usually on top of this. So our anniversary is
Speaker 1: like in a week couple of days actually, and that
Speaker 1: will be twenty eight years, twenty seven years, something like
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty seven years.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Now you're making me feel really old.
Speaker 1: You know why that are really old? And so am I.
Speaker 4: Oh geez, come on, man, I I started with you
Speaker 4: guys the first year you were on air locally in
Speaker 4: the state capitol of Calipa.
Speaker 1: Lord, we've been talking to each other for almost three decades.
Speaker 1: What are we doing the job?
Speaker 5: Okay, that's the end of that forgets.
Speaker 1: Let's do something else with our lives. Okay. So anyway,
Speaker 1: but since you're on right now for the last time,
Speaker 1: so you've always been staunchly non partisan. That's always been
Speaker 1: your thing, and I love that. That's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons we always liked having you on. You're really into
Speaker 1: just trying to relay the facts. I assume you're still
Speaker 1: doing that for CBS. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: That is a great question because people say, because remember,
Speaker 4: this really blows people's minds. Prior to my contract with
Speaker 4: CBS were started in what twenty eighteen or something, so
Speaker 4: that was what seven years ago. I was with our
Speaker 4: local Fox affiliate, Fox forty and Zacha Meto. So you know,
Speaker 4: people say, did you flip loyalties? No, I've always been
Speaker 4: the same, Gary Detrich, you know how it is, Jack
Speaker 4: just like you said, I call them like I see him.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's very, very important role. That's why
Speaker 4: they have me on. Nobody scripts me, nobody tells me
Speaker 4: what bent to take. I guarantee you that.
Speaker 1: Well, so this is an opinion question. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how you want to handle that. But I, Joe
Speaker 1: and I take in a lot of national media and
Speaker 1: podcast all that sort of stuff. Of course we do
Speaker 1: for our line work. I feel like people pundits in
Speaker 1: the rest of the country have a way higher opinion
Speaker 1: of Gavin Newsom's talents than people who have known him
Speaker 1: longer in California. Well, first of all, would you agree
Speaker 1: with that about Well, I do think.
Speaker 4: That that is how should we call it a bias
Speaker 4: that happens with Jack? Literally almost every governor, right, almost
Speaker 4: every governor this happened. You could and Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 4: You can go down the list. You go way back
Speaker 4: to Mike Ducaccus in Massachusetts and the Massachusetts Miracle. And
Speaker 4: when I went to you know, I won't mention the
Speaker 4: name of the school because you guys like to make
Speaker 4: fun of my grad school.
Speaker 1: On the Gary went to Harvard. He went to Harvard?
Speaker 1: Is the John F. Kennedy School of Government. We all know,
Speaker 1: glad we mentioned that telling you this for thirty years.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Gary, Okay, I'm hoping people forget. The reason
Speaker 4: I mentioned that is because when I was in that,
Speaker 4: when I was in Massachusetts, people would say, what is
Speaker 4: this fascination with our governor outside of our state? There's
Speaker 4: this wrong, this wrong that happens all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember, you know, Rick Perry coming out
Speaker 1: of Texas or whoever it is. They the local people
Speaker 1: often say, I don't know if he's as good as
Speaker 1: you think he is. But then sometimes you get a
Speaker 1: Clinton or a Bush who perform, you know, at that
Speaker 1: high level. But so, where do you think Gavin Newsom
Speaker 1: is currently as a political athlete, Well.
Speaker 4: I certainly think that. You know, you're onto the trend
Speaker 4: line right now, which is the Democratic base has been
Speaker 4: desperately seeking a true in their words, fighter, quote unquote.
Speaker 4: They want somebody to take on, as they call him,
Speaker 4: quote unquote, the bully in the White House, and Gavin
Speaker 4: has stilled that role. Now, interestingly, there's been a huge transformation,
Speaker 4: as you know, Jack, in the last eight months, because
Speaker 4: when the President showed up on the tarmac of La
Speaker 4: International Airport right after the fires down south. You know,
Speaker 4: Gavin wanted to make nice and he needs forty billion dollars,
Speaker 4: they say, to rebuild La et cetera, et cetera. But
Speaker 4: things terms now are quickly, as you know, they've gone
Speaker 4: from bad to worse. And I think Gavin is essentially
Speaker 4: given up on trying to woot Trump in the White
Speaker 4: House and now it's full on. I'm going to be
Speaker 4: the face of the opposition.
Speaker 1: I don't blame him, but man, these early projections Trump
Speaker 1: has only been president for what nine months? In the
Speaker 1: talk about twenty eight that is out there, Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: seemed like a lock for the nomination in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. I remember when Rudy Giuliani seemed like who
Speaker 1: could possibly beat him? You know, we've seen this so
Speaker 1: many times. There's lots of names that I've never even
Speaker 1: heard of. You've net, You've probably heard of them, but
Speaker 1: that I've never even heard of that could emerge in
Speaker 1: the next couple of years.
Speaker 4: Correct, Oh yeah, I mean, look, a month is a
Speaker 4: long time in politics. I mean, nobody's even talking about it.
Speaker 4: Redissing special election on November fourth in California thirty days ago.
Speaker 4: Now it's a reality.
Speaker 1: Good point.
Speaker 4: So the point is, Jack, we have a long long
Speaker 4: ways to go. But if you look at the national
Speaker 4: odds maker Slats polling right now just for who's going
Speaker 4: to win twenty eight, and this is so far out
Speaker 4: as ridiculous, but JD. Vance is the lead, followed about
Speaker 4: ten points behind, maybe more than that, twelve points by
Speaker 4: now Gavin Newsom and then the list goes down from there,
Speaker 4: so still Vance, and of course he's no lock for
Speaker 4: his own nominations. Then we're a long ways away from
Speaker 4: twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Although Elon's saying he might throw one hundred to two
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars behind in vance is certainly a big deal.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, he's got those kind of checks.
Speaker 4: He could decide he wants tomorrow to put in fifty
Speaker 4: cents and the next week could might be five hundred million. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you know that proved, as you know, to be
Speaker 4: significant last time around. I mean the battle for twenty
Speaker 4: eight that it's going to make it really interesting, Jack,
Speaker 4: is that it's wide open. There won't be an incumbent
Speaker 4: on either side, and yes you have a sitting vice president,
Speaker 4: but that's a real mixed bag of results for sitting
Speaker 4: vice presidents over the years.
Speaker 1: Gary Dietrich's CBS News political analyst, let's do it for
Speaker 1: thirty more years, Gary.
Speaker 4: Well, how about it we sell with thirty days.
Speaker 5: And go from there.
Speaker 1: All right, and talk to you soon.
Speaker 5: Okay, buddy?
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Speaker 1: man on my sailboat in my sailing lessons yesterday, and
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Speaker 1: So I take this beginner's sailing class at this little
Speaker 1: local lake next to me, and it's two days, two
Speaker 1: hours each day, and you get a certificate. That's not
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Speaker 1: I'm terrible at it. I don't know if I have
Speaker 1: the ability to ever get any good at it, or
Speaker 1: if I'll ever even try it again. But it was fun,
Speaker 1: but it's way way more complicated than I thought it was.
Speaker 1: And there's five adults in the class. On the first day,
Speaker 1: there's only five of us in the instructor. I'm the
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Speaker 1: one dude who appeared to be about eight thousand years
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Speaker 1: I live in a university town, and one thing I've
Speaker 1: learned living in a university town is people who have
Speaker 1: a really high education. I think this guy at a PhD.
Speaker 1: People with PhDs think they know everything about everything. That
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Speaker 1: amount of knowledge about a tiny subject that you got
Speaker 1: your PhD in, you think you know everything about everything.
Speaker 1: This guy apparently had sailed before or something. I don't know,
Speaker 1: this one eight thousand year old man who was in
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Speaker 1: instructor was trying to teach us stuff before even got
Speaker 1: on the boats, he's got the big chart up and
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Speaker 1: so he's not on my boat. The first day we
Speaker 1: just we have two boats. He's not on my boat.
Speaker 1: I told some various people about this old man, know
Speaker 1: it all, who's in my Classho was kind of an
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Speaker 1: Day two, only two of us return for the class.
Speaker 1: Only two of us, and it's me and the old
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Speaker 1: And the problem was the actual instructor, who has years
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Speaker 6: I mean, it was just exactly like that, And there
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Speaker 1: just a few moments ago saying a lot of people
Speaker 1: like a dictator, which, of course we'll get headlines all
Speaker 1: day long. But that was on the topic of sending
Speaker 1: National Guard troops into cities, among things we might talk
Speaker 1: about with Kevin Kylie, who joined us now in the
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty Show. He's a California a congress person
Speaker 1: in our House of Representatives representing the third district of
Speaker 1: California will actually be Jerry manderd out if Gavin Newsom
Speaker 1: gets his way. How are you this morning, Kevin Kylie
Speaker 1: doing wow?
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Hey, Before we get to the whole redistricting thing, which
Speaker 1: would eliminate your position, what are your thoughts on sending
Speaker 1: National Guard troops into various US cities You four that
Speaker 1: are against it?
Speaker 5: Well, I think certainly in DC we've seen the adults right,
Speaker 5: We've got a significant improvement in public safety last week,
Speaker 5: more than a week, and DC has had out of
Speaker 5: control crime for a long time, and it's no one
Speaker 5: deserves to live in those conditions. But especially embarrassing for
Speaker 5: our country when we have people coming from around the
Speaker 5: world and they see our capital city has wawlessness, has
Speaker 5: rampant homelessness. As you know, you go to it's like
Speaker 5: sacrament our places in California go to CBS and they
Speaker 5: have the shampoo and conditioner right under lock and key.
Speaker 5: So I think that there's a lot of people who
Speaker 5: are like, finally someone actually cares that our cities are
Speaker 5: unsafe for folks to live in, and hopefully this will
Speaker 5: catalyze a renewed interest in public safety across the country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course though, the big difference being there is
Speaker 1: a constitutional way that the president can can take over
Speaker 1: problems in Washington, d C. That he does not have
Speaker 1: for Chicago and some of the other cities he's thrown out.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, interestingly enough, Gavin Newsom himself deployed the
Speaker 5: National Guard to San Francisco. I think last year might
Speaker 5: have been a year before saying the open air drug
Speaker 5: markets are out of control. We need the guard there
Speaker 5: in order to help our law enforcement. I'm Brandon news who,
Speaker 5: of course did it in a halfway token start of way,
Speaker 5: so it didn't really make an impact. But you would
Speaker 5: hope that the president would have willing partners in mayors
Speaker 5: and governors across the country to ask, Okay, where do
Speaker 5: you need help? How can we cooperate to actually protect
Speaker 5: your citizens.
Speaker 1: Well, everything Gavin Newsom does is We've talked about a lot,
Speaker 1: you have to run through the filter of he's trying
Speaker 1: to run for president. That's his main goal. So almost
Speaker 1: everything he does is how is this going to look nationally?
Speaker 1: Me trying to get the nomination and run for president,
Speaker 1: as opposed to what's going to be good for any
Speaker 1: various California town. So am I right that if Gavin
Speaker 1: gets his way on the whole jerrymandering California, it'll eliminate
Speaker 1: your seat.
Speaker 5: That's certainly his goal, but it was also his goal
Speaker 5: to defeat me last year under the current district client.
Speaker 5: He had his own staff member who came and ran
Speaker 5: against me, and I ended up winning by forty six
Speaker 5: thousand votes. So even though he's tried as hard as
Speaker 5: he possibly can to jerrymander my district, it looks like
Speaker 5: an elephant. Ironically, the trunk sort of extends into the
Speaker 5: Sacramento area to collect the sort of voters that he wants.
Speaker 5: I still think one way or another, we will beat
Speaker 5: him again, but ultimately we need to make sure that
Speaker 5: the redistricting sham does not go through. It is one
Speaker 5: of the worst things that could happen to democracy and
Speaker 5: representative governments in our state, and it's an attempt, It
Speaker 5: is an explicit attempt to overturn the will of voters
Speaker 5: below up our state constitution and deprive many people of
Speaker 5: their representatives.
Speaker 1: I was reading something I think it was in the
Speaker 1: Washington Post over the weekend, This idea of making the
Speaker 1: country look like a checkerboard where everything is equal sized square,
Speaker 1: you know, just draw the lines and whoever lives in
Speaker 1: it lives in it and make it that way. Do
Speaker 1: you have any fixes for this? Because jerry mandrig has
Speaker 1: been going on since beginning of the country, there doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be any way to stop it from happening.
Speaker 1: Voters hate it. Do you have any ideas? Yeah.
Speaker 5: In fact, there was an attempt in the early years
Speaker 5: of the Republic seventeen I think ninety seven around then
Speaker 5: to jerrymander James Madison out of his seek in Congress.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Of course, the term comes from eighteen twelve when the
Speaker 5: Elridge Jerry, the governor of Massachusetts real district in the
Speaker 5: shape of a salamander. So jerry Mander. But you're right,
Speaker 5: it is not a good thing for our country, whichever
Speaker 5: party does. To be honest with you, it's bad for
Speaker 5: representative government. It disempowers voters and empowers politicians. So I
Speaker 5: suppose is number one. We shouldn't be redrawing lines in
Speaker 5: the middle of the decade, like Gavin Newsom's trying to do.
Speaker 5: I've introduced a bill to that effect in the House
Speaker 5: that I'm trying to get passed as quickly as possible,
Speaker 5: and then ultimately, come the time of the next census
Speaker 5: when you're actually supposed to be doing redistricting. I want
Speaker 5: to see a fix to make elections fairer in our country.
Speaker 5: So I think that consists of two things that we
Speaker 5: could reach a deal on. Number one, let's get rid
Speaker 5: of jerrymandering once and for all in all fifty states.
Speaker 5: And number two, let's establish voter ID once and for
Speaker 5: all in all fifty states. I think that if we
Speaker 5: can do those two things, then we'll have a lot
Speaker 5: fairer elections in this country and our representative government will
Speaker 5: work a lot better.
Speaker 1: So I forget what the numbers were heard the other day.
Speaker 1: I think it was about Massachusetts, where they don't have
Speaker 1: a single Republican in the House, but they get a
Speaker 1: pretty decent percentage of the vote every single time around.
Speaker 1: If Gavin gets his way. In California, Republicans in the
Speaker 1: last election made up about thirty eight percent of the votes. Stang,
Speaker 1: they're forty percent of the votes, but would have seven
Speaker 1: percent of the representation in the House. Obviously, that's not good,
Speaker 1: and I would say the same thing if it was
Speaker 1: flipped Republican and Democrat. Is would the goal be to
Speaker 1: have roughly the same representation in the House as the
Speaker 1: way people vote? Would that be like in a perfect world?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a pretty good metric, right, Like
Speaker 5: everyone should have the chance to get a representative of
Speaker 5: their choice. The party should be represented about an equal
Speaker 5: measure of the support they have in the population. This
Speaker 5: idea that you know, you control fifty five percent of
Speaker 5: the state at the state level, therefore you should get
Speaker 5: one hundred percent of the representatives in Congress. It just
Speaker 5: makes no sense. And like you said, I think the
Speaker 5: typical person, whether they're a Democrat, Republican, independent, green Park,
Speaker 5: what have you, they looked at a map that says, okay,
Speaker 5: we're going to be you know, four Republicans and forty
Speaker 5: eight Democrats. I think most people would say that's just
Speaker 5: a little too out of balance. That's really not the
Speaker 5: way things are supposed to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what this disturbs me. I feel like on a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of different issues, we've got a bit of
Speaker 1: a race to the bottom going on. I mean, what
Speaker 1: Texas is doing is to try to compensate one for
Speaker 1: a census that wasn't a very representative of reality. But
Speaker 1: the fact that you know Illinois, and of course it's
Speaker 1: hilarious that Texas Democrats ran to Illinois, one of the
Speaker 1: most gerrymandered states in the entire country. But Illinois had
Speaker 1: done it long time ago. California did it back in
Speaker 1: the day. There's not a single Republican north of New
Speaker 1: York in the entire house. But each you know, everybody's
Speaker 1: always reacting to what the other party did and saying, well,
Speaker 1: we've got to fight, We've got to fight fire with fire.
Speaker 1: They play hardball, we'ork and how do we avoid this
Speaker 1: race to the bottom?
Speaker 5: Great question. This whole fight fire with fire thing is
Speaker 5: just a ridiculous slogan. I mean, it's rhetoric, and you
Speaker 5: know it's easily rhetorically defeated to the slogan as well.
Speaker 5: We fight fire with fire, the whole world burns, right
Speaker 5: because some other state is doing something that we don't like.
Speaker 5: That means California voters should pay the price. Our people
Speaker 5: should be punished for it. Our voters should be deprived
Speaker 5: of the right to fair representation, should have their actual
Speaker 5: votes from the past overturn. It just makes no sense.
Speaker 5: But I do think, you know, like you said, like
Speaker 5: you know, some people will quite to text this other
Speaker 5: as a point to Illinois, and so you know, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of debate of who really started.
Speaker 1: As the truth is, it.
Speaker 5: Goes back a long long time at the beginning of
Speaker 5: the republic, like we were talking about. But that's why
Speaker 5: I think we need to have some sort of national
Speaker 5: solution to this. And that's the point of my bill
Speaker 5: is saying, look, enough is enough. Why don't we get
Speaker 5: back to the issues that actually matter to people. And
Speaker 5: by the way, I happen to think that if we
Speaker 5: have fair elections, then our party, Republicans will do well.
Speaker 5: In fact, we just did win the election at the
Speaker 5: House in twenty twenty four with the maps as they
Speaker 5: are now. And look at the issues right now. I mean,
Speaker 5: we have an absolute stand still at the border. We've
Speaker 5: delivered major tax relief to the American people, We've gotten
Speaker 5: rid a lot of this woke insanity. And the Democrats, meanwhile,
Speaker 5: have never been more unpopular and have em braced to
Speaker 5: socialism in New York City. So let's focus on the issues,
Speaker 5: let's move past these redistricting games, and let's certainly do
Speaker 5: everything we can to make sure that Gavin Newsom does
Speaker 5: not succeed in blowing up our constitution and attacking democracy
Speaker 5: in our state.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Gavin and I mentioned that he has obviously
Speaker 1: presidential ambitions, the national punditry that doesn't live in California
Speaker 1: seems to be pretty high on Gavin and his abilities
Speaker 1: and his chances of being the next president. I feel
Speaker 1: like those of us who have watched him more closely,
Speaker 1: like all the way from back when he was mayor
Speaker 1: of San Francisco went through, I think they're misreading his talents. Well,
Speaker 1: where are you on that?
Speaker 5: I agree one hundred percent. I think that under the
Speaker 5: microscope of a presidential campaign, this will quit. His image
Speaker 5: will quick We fall apart once once people start asking
Speaker 5: questions like, why is it that California has the highest
Speaker 5: homelessness in.
Speaker 1: The Half the homeless in the entire country live in
Speaker 1: this state, exactly half.
Speaker 5: The en shutter Frome was the entire country. Why do
Speaker 5: we have the highest unemployment fifty first out of fifty states.
Speaker 5: Why is it that we have the highest poverty rate
Speaker 5: in this country, first out of fifty in California. And
Speaker 5: you know, as you know, we could go on and
Speaker 5: on and on and on. Right, So those questions are
Speaker 5: ones that he simply will not be able to answer.
Speaker 5: I don't think that, you know, progressives or conservatives want
Speaker 5: to live in a world that has the sort of
Speaker 5: outcomes that Gavin Newsom's politics do. So I think that
Speaker 5: you know, under the scrutiny which she's really never had
Speaker 5: to deal with an election process of a national campaign,
Speaker 5: that truth will will be unmistakable.
Speaker 1: Do you know how much you can bench press? That
Speaker 1: communist mayor candidate in New York tried to bench press
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five over the weekend at a
Speaker 1: chim and he couldn't. And I don't know why he laved.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he laid down on the bench
Speaker 1: to do that, And I don't care. I don't think
Speaker 1: we should judge our politicians based on how much they
Speaker 1: can move around. I don't think James Madison to probably
Speaker 1: bench press very much. But I just thought it was
Speaker 1: funny that.
Speaker 5: He went to the gym back in the game here,
Speaker 5: so you know, he, uh, what's that the Schwarzenegger is
Speaker 5: going to be back and.
Speaker 1: If we judge everything on that, Hey, thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on today and we'll be following this redistricting. You know,
Speaker 1: vote and see how the voters feel about it. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if that would eliminate you, that would be a bad
Speaker 1: thing for US Congressman Kevin Kylie the third District. Thanks
Speaker 1: for your time, you bad Thanks for having me. The
Speaker 1: thing with mom, Donnie is it's just so funny. So
Speaker 1: he visited one of those outside gyms where the super
Speaker 1: big usually righted up dudes lift weights outside where eybody
Speaker 1: can see him there in New York and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: he is in his suit and tie and laid down
Speaker 1: on the bench and and he he he could not.
Speaker 1: They had to help him get one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: five pounds off his chest. And again, I'm not knocking
Speaker 1: him for his what he can bench. I can I
Speaker 1: can lift that much. But who cares? But why would
Speaker 1: you lay down on a bench underneath some weights if
Speaker 1: you know you're a weedy week guy. That just seems
Speaker 1: like an odd thing to do to me. AnyWho, Yes,
Speaker 1: Arnold says, yes, one more thing on the old man
Speaker 1: on the boat. At one point he's telling me what
Speaker 1: to do as we're trying to come into the dock.
Speaker 1: And you can really cause a problem coming into the
Speaker 1: dock on a sailboat because you got no motor and
Speaker 1: you could like really wreck the boat and cause a
Speaker 1: lot of damage and everything like it. Anyway, I'm coming
Speaker 1: into the dock feeling a lot of pressure, everything like that.
Speaker 1: The instructor is yelling one thing to me, and the
Speaker 1: old man in the sea was yelling a different thing
Speaker 1: to me. And this particular case, it wasn't that I
Speaker 1: couldn't hear him. It was that he was telling me
Speaker 1: the outside. I said, sir, the instructor is telling me
Speaker 1: the exact OPSI I'm gonna listen to the teacher. Oh,
Speaker 1: I really lost my composure. That sounds like he gave
Speaker 1: you every reason too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, from yelling at you to talk in politics.
Speaker 1: Enough, I couldn't. I mean, yeah, I would never do this,
Speaker 1: but I think it would have been within my purview
Speaker 1: to have said shut the f up, yeah, or I'm
Speaker 1: flipping this boat. Yeah, you're about to go a swim in. Sir,
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harrison now so she will kick off a fifteen
Speaker 2: city tour to promote her new memoir. It was supposed
Speaker 2: to be one city until she found out she could
Speaker 2: drink on the bus.
Speaker 1: Wow, he really leans on the Kamala Harris is a
Speaker 1: drunk a lot. Greg Guffeld So coming up in our four,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is in the midst of one of his
Speaker 1: really really long impromptu press conferences, like they're having a meeting,
Speaker 1: but the press is there and he starts taking questions
Speaker 1: and he's been talking for like an hour, and he's
Speaker 1: said a whole bunch of interesting things. So we'll get
Speaker 1: some of those to you an hour for along with
Speaker 1: Joe Getty, we'll be joining the Armstrong Show. He is
Speaker 1: in England on Great Hello. He is in England on
Speaker 1: vacation right now.
Speaker 6: I hope he already has the accent.
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a payback me working while he's
Speaker 1: in Great Britain because we did this one other time
Speaker 1: twenty four years ago. I was in England on vacation
Speaker 1: over nine to eleven. I was walking around the countryside
Speaker 1: of Great Britain on nine to eleven and Joe was
Speaker 1: nearby with his when his kids were young, and he
Speaker 1: came back into work and worked all that week while
Speaker 1: I stayed on vacation. I couldn't have left if I
Speaker 1: wanted to because if you remember, there were no flights
Speaker 1: for a week. The first day he threw opened up,
Speaker 1: I flew back. But so we'll hear from him from England.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. That'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: First of all, I can't believe nine to eleven is
Speaker 1: twenty four years ago, and just did that math in
Speaker 1: my head. That's shocking if you're of a certain age.
Speaker 1: I was so drunk the day of nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: I was on vacation. I was walking around. I had
Speaker 1: gotten a pub map rural pubs of England, and I
Speaker 1: was hiking around rural England, going from pub to pub
Speaker 1: through these fields. It was awesome. You'd walk through these
Speaker 1: fields and they had like steps built where the fences
Speaker 1: were to keep the cattle or sheep or I don't
Speaker 1: remember if I saw any livestock, but they'd have these
Speaker 1: little steps where you could walk up the steps, over
Speaker 1: the fence and down the other side and walk through
Speaker 1: these fields and then there'd be a pub kind of
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. Might be a castle over there,
Speaker 1: pub over there, pub had been there for three hundred years,
Speaker 1: Going there, drink a little bit, move on to the
Speaker 1: next pub. Anyway, I was kind of hammered, and I'm
Speaker 1: walking around from pub to pub, and I could tell
Speaker 1: I knew something was happening because people were gathered around
Speaker 1: the television. In the lot of the pubs didn't have TVs,
Speaker 1: but some of them that did, people were gathered around
Speaker 1: and there was something going on. I was on vacation.
Speaker 1: I'm in the news business. There's always something going on.
Speaker 1: I didn't catch on to it. You were turning it
Speaker 1: off for the true Yes, I didn't catch on to those.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest stories of my entire lifetime was
Speaker 1: happening until the next day. I was a day behind
Speaker 1: on reacting to nine to eleven, and then it was
Speaker 1: somewhat hungover from me. That was a big black and
Speaker 1: tan guy back in there.
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, No, Like, those are delicious, but a
Speaker 6: lot of you'll you'll be feeling that the next day
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 1: Especially if you drink like twenty of them. That's uh,
Speaker 1: that's uh. The top half is Guinness and the bottom
Speaker 1: half is bass Ale. That's the way it works the
Speaker 1: other way around. Uh, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the bottom is Guinness. Anyway. That's kind of rough. That's
Speaker 1: a rough day. So anyway, Joe Joe Getty Live from
Speaker 1: Great Britain coming up in just a few minutes. Uh,
Speaker 1: and and also Trump's press conference that he's doing right now.
Speaker 6: I wonder if Joe saw any of those protests over
Speaker 6: the weekend, the immigration protests that were like all over London.
Speaker 1: Big Oh really, I didn't realize that. Okay, he's certainly
Speaker 1: would be aware of it, because I know he's taking
Speaker 1: in some of the local news. This is news, obviously
Speaker 1: breaking news. Starbucks has brought in brought back the pumpkin
Speaker 1: spice latte and other autumn inspired treats available starting tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I don't know where what it's like where you live,
Speaker 1: but it's one hundred and three degrees here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, bust out the uggs, get a pumpkin spice latte.
Speaker 1: Put a scarf around your neck, get all cozy, maybe
Speaker 1: some sort of stocking cap.
Speaker 8: Find a nice fireplace, your uggs, right, and your pumpkin
Speaker 8: spice latte and other autumnal inspired treats, which would be
Speaker 8: like your pumpkin spice scone and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 6: Didn't you just see pumpkin spice like frosted flakes somewhere
Speaker 6: or something I did.
Speaker 1: Yes, they need to stop. Yes, says our old producer
Speaker 1: Sean used to call it. Pumpkin spice is a bully
Speaker 1: spice that is trying to push all the other spices
Speaker 1: out of the way, and we should fight back against
Speaker 1: this because it's not cool. We do four hours of
Speaker 1: this darn show every single day. We're contractually obligated to
Speaker 1: do that many segments. If you don't get them all,
Speaker 1: or you missed a segment or hour, you can get
Speaker 1: the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. Look forward to
Speaker 1: talking to Joe and see what it's been like being
Speaker 1: in England, which he'd never been to before. Plus I
Speaker 1: didn't know about all the protests and stuff over the weekend,
Speaker 1: and he's big on the whole immigration problems in England anyway,
Speaker 1: I know that's one of his big stories, So look
Speaker 1: forward to talking about that in our four on the
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