1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, the show that takes 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: In sports, entertainment, and culture. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Start with headline news, and then we journey into those 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel's why dad, dude? 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm sleepy. I ain't gonna lie to y'all. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Right now, I went this morning to drop off these 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: itty biddies and the teachers was even looking at me 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: like you all right, No, like one kid in one arm, 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: one kid in this arm, and I was just like 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: outstretched man. But I'm feeling good now because it's time 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: to do this show, man. So I'm puffed with you 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: guys because we got a great show in store for you. 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: But you know, we always start off with what's up 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: with that? 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: Dude? Well, what's up with me? Y'all? 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: Ever been in this position where y'all got something on 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: the calendar, You got a meeting schedule, and I had 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: this house meeting. So because my wife's out of town 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: doing her thing, and I got the kids all solo, 22 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: creep just me. I'm having my meetings either when they're 23 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: in school or when they go to bed. Right, so 24 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: nine pm, you could come by. We chill in the backyard, 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: light the fire, watch some TV light, something else up, 26 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, but we're gonna talk through 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: some business. 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: Why. 29 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: I had one last night at nine o'clock and I 30 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: was like, man, I ain't gonna lie. 31 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: I just want to watch this game and chill. 32 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: And I was just sitting there, and you know, in 33 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: the meeting, there's always somebody, whether they're OCD, they're just 34 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: add ADHD, whatever the hell. 35 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: They're the ones that says we still on. 36 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: You ever get that text right before the meeting, were 37 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: still on for the meeting? And I hate sending that 38 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: text because I hate to be that nerd because we 39 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: already said we're gonna have the meeting, we already confirmed it. 40 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: Why are we gonna still say we're on? And I 41 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: always just laugh at that text. 42 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: Well, last night I knew I should have sent that 43 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: text or I should have received it, and I didn't. 44 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: So nine o'clock came, and you know what I was thinking, 45 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: I hope he don't show up. I hope he don't come. 46 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: No love lost. I love the guy, I love our business. 47 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: That we're doing. I just was tired, boss, and then 48 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: nine on one hitting nine on one, knowing this guy's 49 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: oh here coming, and so then I should have just 50 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: hit him to play it off like I was all 51 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: eager for. 52 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: The meeting right like where you at? 53 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Instead, I was like, nah, because that might prompt him 54 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: to get his butt up and get over here. So 55 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: I just chilled out, had me a nice relaxing evening. 56 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: The kids were sleep. The wife is across the world, yo, 57 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm out here living right now. 58 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: So that was cool. 59 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: The plane is stabilized, as I would say in the household, 60 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: no more turbulence. 61 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: They didn't get to school thirty minutes. 62 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Late like they did yesterday. Today they are all good 63 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: on time. Everything's great, that's right dad mom. I guess 64 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: they called me that's corny too. 65 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: All right? 66 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: And the last thing, man, And I didn't know if 67 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: this was just because I was so relaxed so chill. 68 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: I was like, am I dreaming this? Because I was 69 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: just sitting backfire going. I was just relaxing, belly out, 70 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: feeling like a big proud papa. And I'm looking at 71 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: the screen, I'm like where Chris Paul at? 72 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: And I was like Oh, damn it, dog, Chris Paul 73 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: heard again. 74 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta make up another word, because it's 75 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: more than just redundant. It's more than just every time. 76 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: And Christa homing but got dog injury prone at the 77 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: wrong time. Whoa It gotta be like psychosomatic, like he 78 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: gotta start upstairs in his head and just go to 79 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: his growing or just go to his hamstring or whatever. 80 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I really feel bad for him, just like 81 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: Kawhi sometimes, man, you just. 82 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: Get struck with that bad look. 83 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: All right, y'all, well, speaking of somebody who got struck 84 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: with some luck, but it was good. 85 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: It's James Harden. Man. 86 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Let's talk about James Harden and his sacrifice or his dilemma, 87 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: because we saw James Harden last night without Joel MBI 88 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: go up to Boston and win Game one. 89 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Oh, he came out the gate. 90 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: What he dropped sixteen in the first quarter, forty five 91 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: and six for the game. And he really tried to 92 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: exercise those demons because everybody knows he has been underwhelming 93 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: more times than not in the play, based on his standard, 94 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: based on our expectations. 95 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: So yesterday he tried to right his wrongs. 96 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: He went out there and was ventus James Harden got 97 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: me thinking like, damn, how long does it take for 98 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: you to rewrite your own history? It ain't gonna be 99 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: as long as it took to get it. Because if 100 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: he goes out there right now, imagine James Harden because 101 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: of Joe Elmbe's injuries, and he's gonna come back, but 102 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't come back as soon as he hopes, 103 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: and James Harden leads this team, James Harden goes back 104 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: into his bag and starts doing what James Harden does. 105 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: What happens? Then? 106 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: Does he get to rewrite his history? What if they 107 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: win a championship? Now, James Harden finally a champion despite 108 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: all of those underwhelming performances. What y'all think about it? 109 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: Then? 110 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: So is there any way for him to salvage that reputation? 111 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: That's my real question for you guys in those comments. 112 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: But beyond that, we saw James Harden also speak on 113 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: how he was feeling. So here's a quote from James 114 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: because all this talk right now got James Harden sitting 115 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: there like, y'all don't act like this is all on me. 116 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: Some of this is on y'all. Quote throughout the entire year. 117 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: People expect me to be the scoring James Harden, and 118 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: the James Harden that goes out there and gives forty 119 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: fifty points somewhere between this beard and that forest. You 120 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: can see his lips moving, and then people talk, oh, 121 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: you can't win like that. And then I'll go out 122 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: there and get twenty points and eleven assists and it's like, well, 123 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: he's not the old James Harden no more, y'all catch that. Basically, 124 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 1: he's saying, man, what is the old saying? I can't 125 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: win for losing? And I never understood it, but I 126 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: know what it means. It basically means ain't no way 127 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: to do this the right way according to y'all, because 128 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: y'all damn critics are always criticizing. So when he goes 129 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: out there gives you forty and fifty, but y'all don't win. 130 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: He has never won a championship. Ah, you just over 131 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: there getting empty calorie stats. That's all you trying to do. 132 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: Phill up the stats. Shit, you ain't caring about winning. Okay, 133 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: here's a twenty and eleven for you and Joe LMB 134 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: go out there and win the MVP as we presume 135 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: he wills this year. Right, Oh man, that ain't nothing. 136 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: James Harden fell off. All he got is twenty points 137 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: left in him. He like dawg, which way y'all wanted. 138 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: So last night he got the best of both Worlds 139 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: forty five and the w Let's see if that carries 140 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: on and gets him the dub for this series. Now, 141 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: all that said, James Harden is still James Harden. We 142 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: saw that on the court, and we saw that leading 143 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: into the game off the court, as he must have 144 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: took one of his G five's and G six is 145 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: from New York to Boston. Because this dude was dressed 146 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: like confunction, Earth winning fire and something else. I don't know, 147 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: another damn element out there. Y'all see what James Harden 148 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: is wearing. See, just when you know you got money, 149 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: you wear it is because this ain't like necessarily rich 150 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: person gear. What's rich about it is he could never 151 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: wear that again, and that's rich. 152 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: That means you got a closet full of one times 153 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: you can't wear that. 154 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: You imagine if somebody was walking around with those bell 155 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: bottoms and I don't know what kind of with valor 156 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: and stuff and then just crazy logos and emblems and 157 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: then okay, you wear it because I know how I dress. 158 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I dress simple or I dress bad, and I don't 159 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: give a damn. But I can wear it like three 160 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: times a week, like I can put well, not this shirt, 161 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: this ain't good, this is too bright, damn it bad time. 162 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: But most of my stuff I wear it all the 163 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: damn time I go to school. 164 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: The parents don't look at me twice because guess what, 165 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm understated. But James Harden man his game yesterday was 166 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: not understated. That outfit wasn't understated, And good for James Harden. 167 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Now y'all figure out where y'all at with James Harden 168 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: y'all love them or y'all love to hate them. Mishr 169 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Boy Marshall Sway thanking you for your viewership on Brinks 170 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: TV and your membership on YouTube. Wiley's World. Yes, I'm 171 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: looking forward to us. We're gonna have a live show 172 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: with the members as co hosts of this show. So 173 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: get your membership now so you could be one of 174 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: those people that gets yelled at because when I see 175 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: somebody else, all of a sudden, all this niceness goes away. 176 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: It's time to win a damn argument, time to win 177 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: a debate. Look forward to that. But let's talk about 178 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: mail kiper Junior, who won over my heart. 179 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: Yes he did in nineteen ninety seven. 180 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: But there are talks from executives that say that mel 181 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: kiper Junior should be an NFL. 182 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. 183 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: Wow, I ain't expect to read that article today, but 184 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: they have some substance to this conversation. 185 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: Let's discuss this. 186 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: They're talking about the impact that mel kiper Junior has 187 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: had on the NFL Draft in particular, and how much 188 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: it's grown over the forty years since he was a 189 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: part of it. And they've been covering it. Right, So 190 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: mail Kuiper started in nineteen eight at four, most of 191 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: y'all weren't even born nineteen eighty four. Shoot, I'm ten 192 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: years old. I'm pushing huffies, I'm on the block, I'm 193 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: on slosson, hitting it like this on my huffy. So 194 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm alive and knowing of a mel kiper Junior at 195 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: that time. He was twenty three years young, and he 196 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: started doing the draft, big believer in the fact that 197 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: the draft could become a spectacle. Because y'all remember back 198 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: in the days, the draft was some smoke filled rooms, 199 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: some fat guys talking about Hey, call up FedEx, tell 200 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: Fred we're drafting them. He could quit that job for now, 201 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: but in the summer he has to go back because 202 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: they had two jobs back there. 203 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: Right. 204 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: That's how the draft was. You just didn't even see 205 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: the players. Cass were just out there chilling, hanging with 206 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: their family, and they were like, oh yeah, super small shorts, 207 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm gonna play for the. 208 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: Rams this year. Look forward to it like it was 209 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: just Dusty. 210 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: And then mel Kiper came in and you can say 211 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: coincidentally or you can say because of him, All of 212 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: a sudden, this thing started to have some legs and 213 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: we saw it become right before our very eyes what 214 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: it is today, which is now three hundred thousand people 215 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: show up in Kansas City for the draft. Everyone got 216 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: to rep their fan base, and more importantly, millions and 217 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: millions of people twelve million in total. 218 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: Watch the NFL Draft. 219 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: So ESPN's VP of Production Sef Markman, who gave me 220 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: my job when I was at the NFL Live on ESPN. Hilarious, dude, 221 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: great guy says this quote. There is no NFL draft 222 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: on TV without mel Kiper. He's an institution. I think 223 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: he should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame 224 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: for what he's accomplished and what he's brought to this 225 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: TV event. 226 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: He ain't lying there. Mel Kuiper is an institution. 227 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I remember when mel Kiper first discovered me at Columbia, 228 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna lie. 229 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: It was beyond flattering. 230 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I knew what mel Kiper's voice and megaphone 231 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: could do for my career, but beyond that, it was 232 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: damn mel Kiper, Like you couldn't look up any higher 233 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: than mel Kiper. I don't know if Tom mcshaye was 234 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: doing it back then, but Tod mcshaye was not in 235 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: the conversation in nineteen ninety seven. 236 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: It was the institution of mel Kuiper. 237 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: Now, speaking of Tom mcshaye, who I love as well, 238 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: agrees with this on Twitter. He says it's a no 239 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: brainer in terms of mel Kiper Junior being in the 240 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Now, what I love about mel Kaiper Jerior, 241 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: on top of the fact that he just made his 242 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: way doing it his way, is because that's his passion. 243 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: You could tell right. 244 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Or wrong, and he's been wrong a ton a ton 245 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: including thing and I was a first round, fifteenth overall pick. 246 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: That was kind of wrong, you know, I would have 247 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: some teams would be like dog. Took him a while 248 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: to get to become who marcellis became right, So glad 249 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have those first round expectations. Casper had been 250 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: calling me a bus my first year when I had 251 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: zero sacks. 252 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: Hello. 253 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: So mel Kiper's not always right, and there are YouTube 254 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: videos at the YouTube videos of showing all the times 255 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: he was wrong. I think he was even wrong on 256 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, which is a bad miss, but we've all 257 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: been there before. The thing about it is is that 258 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: this is his greatest passion and he's had tremendous impact. 259 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: So how can mel Kiper Junior get into the Hall 260 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: of Fame? 261 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: Hmmm? 262 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: One route is for mel Kuiper Junior to take the 263 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: Ralph Hay Pioneer Award. Y'all know that award because you 264 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: know who's won that award. We have seen Steve Sable 265 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: win that award. Y'all know who he is. NFL Film's 266 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: co founder. 267 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: RK McNally and Marion Motley and. 268 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: Bill Willis they integrated the NFL, so hell yeah, you're 269 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: gonna get into the NFL. 270 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: Who brought all these black people to play? 271 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Oh? 272 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna get it a. 273 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Hall of fame man in the NFL was still all white, 274 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: godly who and then they had like a Black league 275 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: over there, Negro league over there, god Lee like I 276 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: could why we are blessed, y'all? Just think about it. 277 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: If you had to grow up and that's how you 278 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: had to watch football. I'm watching not AFC in NFC 279 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: or AFL, NFL black and white like the TVs were insane. 280 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: So yes, mel Kuiper's had tremendous impact. That's one way 281 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: to get up in there. And that award is given 282 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: to those who make significant and innovative contributions to the sport. Ah, 283 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: you know how y'all mean, is in the NBA Hall 284 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: of Fame, and it ain't because of how good he 285 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: was on the court. It's because of his contributions to 286 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: globalizing the game. Well, mel Kiper has certainly done that 287 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: in terms of bringing another level of enhancement to the 288 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: NFL draft. Just imagine if mel Kiper wasn't sitting there 289 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight. He said it came to him his passion. 290 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: This is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna make sure 291 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: that all these prospects get illuminated and then all of 292 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: a sudden, we have this huge platform for them to 293 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: transition to the pros. In nineteen seventy eight, no one 294 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: was thinking like that. Now you look back from twenty 295 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: twenty three, you're like, I couldn't imagine the NFL without 296 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: their Hello, Welcoming ceremony, which is that NFL Draft. 297 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 2: So you got my vote, not only. 298 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: Just because you have made that impact, because you even 299 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: found diamonds in the rough, like myself watching the NFL 300 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: Draft in nineteen ninety seven hearing mel Kiper talk about 301 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: you and then seeing that shark fin whatever the hell 302 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: he got going on up there, still as chrispy as 303 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: it is, ben as it is today, unreal man. Salute 304 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: to mel Kiper Jr. Even if he doesn't get in. 305 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: We all know he has made one hell of a mark. 306 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: Loving life. But I know somebody who's not loving life. 307 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: Her name is d Anna Hendricks. Yo, Mama, did you 308 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: wrong from Hello d Anna? WHOA? 309 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: That sounded like one of those combo names. 310 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Because I used to meet casts like that, and you 311 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: hear some crazy name like Karandon. 312 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: You're like, what the hell is going on? 313 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: You're like, oh no, my brother was Corby, and then 314 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: my middle name is Vanner, and then my dad's last 315 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: name is Drake and he was just in so Korandon. 316 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: I was like, oh God, all right, Deanna. 317 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Soon you were born and your mama named you Deanna, 318 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: this moment was going to come to life, and this 319 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: is it, all right. Miami of Ohio women's basketball coach 320 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Deanna Hendrick stepped down on Wednesday. Her decision to resign 321 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: comes after text messages. Damn ball lazy people. Are you 322 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: gonna do bad? And you gonna also keep record of it? 323 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: Ah? 324 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm guilty as well, but damn we lazy when we 325 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: do bad. Resigns after text messages show the coach was 326 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: in an inappropriate relationship. 327 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: With one of her players. 328 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: Big moji, let's stop down right there, women's head coach 329 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: in college messing with obviously one of the players. 330 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: That's a woman. Ah. Now we're in unique place right here. 331 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: We're in somewhere different. 332 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: Shortly after, the university's athletic department reportedly learned about one 333 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty text messages during a level day span 334 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty and eleven days. WHOA you were 335 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: thirsty that power Forward had power. Hendrix was suspended for 336 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: an alleged inappropriate relationship between her and the player. At 337 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: least thirty of the messages contained wording considered intimate. So 338 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: not only is she crossing the line, and she's crossing 339 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: two lines, because one, you're not supposed to mess with 340 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: a student, but two, the second line is you're messing 341 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: with a player that is on your team that you 342 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: got power over. So this ain't just all I love 343 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: you and you love me, Okay, we cool? You got 344 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: power in this relationship. You can make her run extra 345 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: lapse for no reason just because she didn't respond to 346 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: one of them one hundred and eighty damn text messages 347 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: you were sending with your thirsty ass. So hilarious that 348 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: this is happening. Now we're not done with this story. 349 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: Before we really dig into it, it was determined that 350 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: the matter did not constitute a violation of Title nine 351 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: or the University Sexual Misconduct Protocol. I need to read 352 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: through Title nine again. How long is Title nine? This 353 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: ain't a violation? I guess you're just like, look, we're 354 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: here to promote and prop up women's sports, even if 355 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: they messing with each other. I'm like, what, okay, and 356 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: the university sexual misconduct, This ain't sexual misconduct that you 357 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: are messing with a player that you have authority Authoritie 358 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: over got to read through that policy as well. 359 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: All right. 360 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: The review did show that the university has significant calls 361 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: to move forward with the termination of Hendricks's employment. There 362 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: we go do the violation of a policy that prohibits 363 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: staff members for pursuing and engaging in consensual intimate relationship 364 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: with undergrad students. Thank you, even if the student wants to. 365 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: You gotta be the bigger person. You got to be 366 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: the adult in the room and say nah, girl, gotta 367 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: holler at you when you graduate. Okay, So she resigned 368 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: instead of getting fired. We know how that goes. It 369 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: looks better on the resume. She thanked the university says 370 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: she's still roots for the team. I don't think they 371 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: gonna thank her back because her record was thirty five 372 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: and eighty and four seasons. So she out there macking 373 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: way better and harder than she coaching thirty five and 374 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: eighty and four years. What's that nine and twenty every 375 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: year and all the messages. I wonder why the game 376 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: plans suck. It suck because you're over there texting your players. Indeed, wait, 377 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: all right, let's get into this, because there's something here 378 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: between women's basketball and their reputation and reality. 379 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 2: We have all heard it. 380 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: We have heard players talk about it, where a heterosexual 381 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: player is ostracized playing women's basketball in particular, Countless players 382 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: have come out and said it from afar. The culture 383 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: says that, and it's interesting that this just reinforces. 384 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: That with violation. 385 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: So that really does something to the culture and shows 386 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: you how pervasive it must be in that respect. 387 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: Now you flip it. 388 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: You don't hear about this, And I would love for 389 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: you guys to give me some examples if there is, 390 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: because playing male sports my entire life, I've never heard. 391 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: Of a coach messing with a player two reasons. 392 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: One, I've just never heard of any seen it, Like, 393 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: no dude is messing with one of the players, like 394 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: I've never heard of a woman. 395 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: Messing with one of their players either to this story. 396 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: But two, we do know. 397 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Once again in culture that in men's sports, shit nobody 398 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: is raising their hand. But now we got one outwardly 399 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: to say that they're gay. Right, Well, we got one 400 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: player from the Raiders. 401 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: That's it. 402 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: In the entire history of male sports, I think we 403 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: have one active player say that they're gay. 404 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: Give me more guys. 405 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: But in my sports, in my lens, that's all I've seen. 406 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: And I actually played with a gay player. His name 407 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: was Ezra Twala, and we played together in Buffalo, and 408 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: he was a Minnesota Viking before and didn't come out 409 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: the closet into his retirement, once again reinforcing that stereotype 410 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: about the culture. Now, that's one part of this, which 411 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: obviously reputation and what the culture looks like and versus 412 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: what it is. We need to dive into that. We 413 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: need to get into that a little more so because 414 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: I have daughters, and one of my daughter's gonna be gigantic. 415 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how big she might be six thirteen, 416 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, she just gigantic, and she might want to 417 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: play basketball with her big butt, and I want her 418 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: to play, but I also don't want her to feel 419 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: ostracized if she is going to be out there trying 420 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: to ball and nothing else. 421 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: Certainly don't want coaches trying to mack her out. 422 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: Too, So we got to make sure we have conversations 423 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: about this. But this conversation is not being held on 424 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: the mainstream media networks. 425 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: You imagine if a male coach had messed with a 426 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: male player, you think you would have heard of that. 427 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, we ain't hearing about this one, then why 428 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: because there are narratives out there that we gotta satisfy. Right, 429 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: this doesn't just sound right right, you don't want to 430 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: pick on the women or you don't want to talk 431 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: about this in that respect, And I'm like, well on, 432 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: never shut up. We always talk about it because we 433 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: either gonna learn or unlearn. So it's interesting the cultural 434 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: dynamics and how they're playing out in this story. No 435 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: mixed situations and men like no, man, give me some examples, 436 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: y'all please, men messing with a man player, because I've 437 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: just seen the first one. The pioneer Deanna started something here, 438 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: and I wonder how pervasive it is as we finally 439 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: start to understand a little bit more of the dynamics 440 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: of that culture. 441 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: So shaky situation. 442 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if she gonna land on her feet 443 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: or land on her back. 444 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: That was wrong. We'll see how it all plays out 445 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: for Deanna. But that is a situation. Hopefully that was 446 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: just a one off. 447 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: Where the referees at y'all, where they at, at yo, 448 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: where they act. Because we got a shortage of referees 449 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: and youth sports across America, and I don't wonder why, 450 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: but let's talk about this story. Since twenty and eighteen, 451 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: roughly fifty thousand high school referees, fifty thousand umpires have quit. 452 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: That's over twenty percent of the nation's total. Now that's 453 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: resulted in cancelation of not only games, but leagues entirely canceled. 454 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: What's the cause of this shortage? We're going to discuss that. 455 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: Well, we know it starts with a toxic environment, right 456 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: that parents, coaches, and players have created. Yes, this generation 457 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: of athlete and the context and the circumstances around how 458 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: much money these athletes are making, how much attention they're garnering, 459 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: is now changed, how we even consume the sports, how 460 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: we even go to the games, and how we act. 461 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: Referees are constantly being yell that curse, that have slurs 462 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: hurled at them, and in some cases have even been 463 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: physically assaulted. Y'all got y'all cameras in your hands, and 464 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: that is a movie camera which allows people to go 465 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: out there and act like they are on stage. 466 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: And do two damn much. 467 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: Excuse me, do three much as I see it when 468 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: I go to games as well. All right, So let's 469 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: talk about in Kansas where they pass the bill making 470 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: it a crime to abuse a referee. Yes, it's gotten 471 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: that far out of control. Provides an extra level of 472 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: protection for sports officials at all levels. Bumping, any physical assault, spitting, 473 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: got dog, you spit on me, game over unnecessary roughness. 474 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: All the ref gonna win this when you spit on me. 475 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: If I'm a ref, it will never end for you. 476 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: Menacing threatening, abusive language, it's a class be misdemeanor. They 477 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: took it to that level. Now that level of crime, 478 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: you can get up to one thousand dollars in a fine, 479 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: twenty five. 480 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: Hundred and a year in jail, or both. 481 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: They trying to get you out there. Let's talk about 482 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: one place where they have a unique rule to handle 483 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: unruly parents. You imagine this, If you fight with the 484 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: umps during the game, you have to volunteer your time 485 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: to umpire three games before you're allowed back as a spectator. 486 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: Or else stay your ass at home. That'll make you 487 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: shut your mouth. Right, You got to go out there 488 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: and volunteer your time, even though you should be doing 489 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: that in the first place. And the main purpose of 490 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: that is not for them to call a baseball game, 491 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: not trying to see if you're trying to get another job. 492 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: Is for them to see what's going on out there, 493 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: and that it is not that easy being an umpire. 494 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: So show some respect. Okay, Now let's talk about the 495 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: toxic environment. Because I'm a coach and literally literally I 496 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: show up this weekend for our game that we had 497 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday. 498 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 2: Now we have. 499 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: Pictures, and our pictures are supposed to start at nine 500 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: to fifteen. I'm a veteran coach now, I have been 501 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: there way too long, and they never start those pictures 502 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: on time. So I was coming late on purpose, and 503 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: people were there coming late as expected. 504 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: But by coming late, I missed something. 505 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: I missed the fact that two coaches had just had 506 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: a fight. 507 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 2: I thought I ain't here. 508 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: I was like, two coaches of seven year old football 509 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: had a fight, and they were like, yeah, dog, they 510 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: were going at it. 511 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: Now. 512 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: That didn't surprise me, even though it did catch me 513 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: off guard because I've been in situations before where the 514 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: opposing coach is just doing three much. I had to 515 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: tell another coach last week during basketball during the game, 516 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: he's over there yelling and pulling his hair back during 517 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: the pat riley, and I'm like, dog, he's complaining because 518 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: they're not calling traveling every time, and the ref has 519 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: already told you, I'm not calling it every time. 520 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm calling it based on I think the talent level 521 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: of the kid. 522 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: So if the kid can drip, I will call travel. 523 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: But half these kids can't drivele so I'm not calling 524 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: travel even if that kid gets an advantage. That's kind 525 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 1: of how you play youth sports, right, We're all in 526 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: this together. 527 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: But he just kept snapping because he was like, call 528 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: every play. 529 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: And I finally told him, I said, hey, bruh, I said, 530 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: you know that complaining is contagious, and you're gonna wonder 531 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: why your son is complaining. And then literally, as I'm speaking, 532 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: guess who was complaining on the court, His son crying, etc. 533 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: For no reason other than he's being taught that way. 534 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: I said, when it comes back to bite you, because 535 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: the son is a beast. 536 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: His son could play. 537 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: I said, when it comes back to bite you, you 538 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna know why, and no, stop complaining dog anyway, it's just. 539 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: That type of environment. I put out that fire, but 540 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: cooler heads don't always prevail. I've seen it. 541 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: I had to have someone on our team before because 542 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: it came to my attention. 543 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: Three different parents came to me. 544 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: And said, there's a lady on your team who was 545 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: complaining in the stand so much that we can't enjoy 546 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: the game. I was like, really, and she was like, yeah, 547 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: because her son is not playing the whole game. I 548 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: was like, well, nobody said I'm playing the whole game 549 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: unless it's MJ. I mean, the rest of y'all songs 550 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: get in where they fit in. 551 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: It's called football. 552 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: But long story short, the commissioner found out and then 553 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: he was like, I have to pull it from your team. Why, 554 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: because she's making it a toxic environment. She does them 555 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: like how you're doing it. Go somewhere else where you 556 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: like it. Maybe that will make you happy. 557 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. 558 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: And that's crazy, right, And this is seven year old 559 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: football and it's not even tackle. It's flagged, so I 560 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: can't imagine when they go into tackle. But I have 561 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: gone to a few gangs, and I do sit up there, 562 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: and I had traveled that journey. I had traveled a marathon. 563 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: I know what this role looks like. I know what 564 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: it looks like when your son looks like he's a beast. 565 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: At a young age, I was that beast, and everyone 566 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: starts looking at you, not as a person as much, 567 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: but as a commodity. 568 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: Right, you get more popular. I was not a talkative. 569 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: Young kid, but boy, I couldn't go anywhere without somebody 570 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: talking to me. Chili cheese, Friedo's, had my tiki punch 571 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: sitting there eating, somebody walking up to me talking to 572 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: me about football, all the way to high school coaches 573 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: trying to recruit me. And I know what that looks like, 574 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: especially when you start talking about kids who don't have much, 575 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: who don't come from means. Their parents are looking at 576 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: them like a lotto ticket. And when you're looking at 577 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: something like a lotto ticket, you guard it with your 578 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: whole might, your whole body and soul. Problem is now 579 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: you don't have the same respect for other people out 580 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: there who are just trying to come out there and 581 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: let little Johnny run around. Little Johnny's not a lotto ticket. 582 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: Little Johnny has two left feet. Little Johnny just likes playing. 583 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: So it's crazy because a couple bad apples always spoils 584 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: it for the bunch. 585 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: So we know the environment is crazy. I mean, look, 586 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: a key to leave. 587 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: Got into it and his brother had shot some father and 588 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: killed him at a game. 589 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: That's a coach on coach, y'all remember that story. 590 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: That pulled my heart and shredded it in terms of Wow, 591 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: it's that damn crazy out there, and I don't want 592 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: to hear this whole was competitive and you get lost 593 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: in it. No, you don't get lost in it if 594 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: you're a coach. No, you don't get lost in it 595 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: if you're a parent. You know why, because you had 596 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: your chance. I had my chance, I had my turn, 597 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: I had my run. But a lot of times I'm 598 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: watching people who are looking around, and those people are 599 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: living out unfulfilled dreams. 600 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: Didn't make a digit stopped short for whatever reason. 601 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: You weren't talented enough, you weren't focused enough, you weren't 602 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: lucky enough. It just didn't happen for you. So your 603 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: unfulfilled dreams, all of a sudden, you got some frustration, 604 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: and as soon as something happens out there. You want 605 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: to act like the big man on campus, like you 606 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: got all the answers. Man, That is not sports, and 607 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: that's not how your coach or you see some people 608 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: out there who they're just frankly, just looking at picking 609 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: out who they thinks go make it, and they gonna 610 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: make sure that that kid is protected at all costs, 611 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: and don't give a damn about developing the rest of 612 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: the kids or the other team or sportsmanship. A sad 613 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: state of affairs, y'all, because my heart is into this, 614 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: not just because my kids are out there, but my foundation, 615 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: Project Transition. We have a sports academy where we work 616 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: with the kids directly, and I am about that programming 617 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: not just how good your kids are, but how well 618 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: they play. There's a huge difference, and that incorporates discipline, sportsmanship, focus, effort. 619 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: Desire, etc. 620 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: We gotta do better, y'all, because y'all making this environment 621 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: so bad that sooner or later, no one's gonna be 622 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: out there to even call the damn games for you. 623 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: What you're gonna do now, You're not gonna have a 624 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: referee to settle the score, so you better. 625 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: Watch yourself for it. There's nothing else for us to watch. 626 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: All Right, y'all, y'all know how we finish every show 627 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 1: We in there with a whlyz. 628 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a bad one. 629 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: Don't let life get in a way of living, Yes, 630 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: don't let life get in a way of living. Some 631 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: of these wilyisms just different levels, right, you know what 632 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean. There are stars, they're superstars. Then there's like 633 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: lebron and stuff and those kind of cats like next 634 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: level elite. I love the fact that this wiism hits 635 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: everybody in the same place. 636 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: Don't let life get in a way of living like 637 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: task oriented, right, gotta make money. 638 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I gotta get a job, gotta do this, gotta take 639 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: care of the family like you do all these things 640 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: to make sure you're in a good place. But then 641 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: you don't live well enough. You don't live good enough. 642 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: You don't live out what you set up. You set 643 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: up this entire life. Then you look up, you're eighty 644 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: years old. Then live none of it. You imagine, I 645 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: got caught in that loop before, like, oh yeah, soon 646 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: as I do that, and as soon as I do that, 647 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: as soon as I do that, oh yeah, I'm. 648 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: Gonna be good. Then I'm gonna relax, just chill, and 649 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: just do it. Then you look up. 650 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: All you're doing is add and more to the list 651 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: of the things you gotta do so that you can 652 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: finally do what you want to do, which is enjoy it. 653 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: All right. 654 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: So don't let your task list get out of control, 655 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: and don't set up your life and not. 656 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: Live your life right. 657 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: Do not let life get in the way of living. 658 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: Live through these experiences. And I look, I am preaching 659 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: to the choir. I'm hoping because I know a lot 660 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: of you guys already know this, but we all fall 661 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: victim to it. 662 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: I owe my daddy twenty phone calls right now and. 663 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: Thirty times we need to hang because he is seventy 664 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: six years old, and frankly, we need to get all 665 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: the time in we can, and I always don't because 666 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm always doing things to get my life in order 667 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: and make sure that this project is worked. The foundation's working, 668 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: this is working, the shows are working, these relationships are great. 669 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: Better not let this life getting the way of living. 670 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: All right, y'all, that's gonna do it for more to it. 671 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: That's the show notes for all the information on our 672 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: topic today. Today, y'all want to keep the conversation going. 673 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: Let's talk. 674 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: Find me on all socials at Marcel's Wally. More to 675 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: It is a production Dan Patrick Production, That Dude Entertainment 676 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: and Workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick, 677 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: Marcel's Wally, Paul Anderson, and Nick Panela Marcel's Whally. 678 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: That Dude. Thanks for listening, y'all, Thanks for all the love. 679 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Subscriptions, five star ratings, reviews, membership program Marsoswally dot com, 680 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: Project Transition dot org. You guys are all in with me, 681 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: that Dude's Dudes and that Dude's divas. I A'm working 682 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: this because it's funny. We got that new show coming 683 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: where y'all gonna be on the show. This is y'all 684 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: show members show. So what y'all want to do, Let's 685 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: do it. Let's keep it going, Let's keep it coming. 686 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: There's more coming from More to It. Talk to y'all, 687 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: hell as soon. 688 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: Con