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Speaker 1: NFL stories to get to coming up in a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's mad at Tom Brady. Come on, mamm everybody needs

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Speaker 1: a hug. More than that, I think, more than I

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Speaker 1: can't believe Brady is ruining the sanctity of the NFL

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Speaker 1: by sitting in on broadcast meetings.

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Speaker 3: Toby Brady could do this.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady could do that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's gonna help them Raiders win a game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you say it out loud, it really doesn't

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Speaker 3: make anything.

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Speaker 5: Maybe the man in a Gaberdine suit with a spy

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Speaker 5: like if he showed up on facility, he'd have a

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Speaker 5: those meta glasses so he'd record anything that he saw. Hey,

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Speaker 5: there was something that was discarded in the trash can. Hey,

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Speaker 5: could you get me a glass of water? And now

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Speaker 5: he's rifling through a desk. So we're gonna have that

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Speaker 5: coming up in about fifteen minutes. But look, obviously, Hey,

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Speaker 5: the big stunning story today we all woke up and

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Speaker 5: saw the news the death of Robert Redford at the

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Speaker 5: age of eighty nine, one of the greatest movie stars

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Speaker 5: that any of us have seen. You look up movie

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Speaker 5: star in the dictionary. You see Robert Redford's picture. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's how big a deal it was. His list of

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Speaker 5: today that things kept coming back to two movies, Butch

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Speaker 5: people say, you'd get some sting in there, a little bit,

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Speaker 5: that's fine, but overall I'm watching The Natural Trend and

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Speaker 5: Butch and Sundance and The Natural and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 5: interesting to see. This is the movie that people are

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Speaker 5: going to gravitate towards the most. Right, everybody's got their friend.

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Speaker 5: The Sting was Phinal I've got I've got somebody in

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, how many people play are going, Oh,

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Speaker 5: But that's just it, right, like a career that spanned

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Speaker 5: so many different things. We I think I probably saw

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Speaker 5: more movies of him in history lit classes, not film classes.

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Speaker 5: That's a whole other thing. But we're gonna use the

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Speaker 5: Robert Redford movie here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, every book, everybody's got their fend.

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Speaker 1: I'm not picking. For a guy that makes his living

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Speaker 1: ready for one over the other No Sneakers, Brew Baker,

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Speaker 5: Morgan Freeman yaf Coto, great, great cast, going back, I

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Speaker 5: think it was nineteen to eighty uh so before we

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Speaker 5: get into something big from the natural, right, I mean,

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Speaker 5: this is this baseball movie. You know, it goes down

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I could put a sports movie

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Speaker 1: And we're just watching it. We're just watching Looking for

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Speaker 1: the Natural somewhere on TV. But like of all the

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that other movies aren't great, aren't aren't

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Speaker 1: it's corruption in sports. Right, it happened in the nineteen

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Speaker 1: and it was apropos in the eighties, and it's apropos now.

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Speaker 1: And you're talking about of course, you know, Robert Redford

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Speaker 5: We give a time that we deal with that. Now

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Speaker 5: surprised we haven't had an update of this week?

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Speaker 3: Are you fixing games? Are you not?

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Speaker 6: Are you in?

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Speaker 3: Are you in for the fix? Are you not?

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Speaker 1: Like the movie is absolutely timeless, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: So it's it's really it really is something to see

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a minute since I've sat down and

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Speaker 5: you're you're not necessarily running into it so on site,

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Speaker 5: the natural gravitates. I mean a lot of it goes

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Speaker 4: I mean between between kids.

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Speaker 3: Guys don't start playing ball at your age.

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Speaker 5: But you know what I mean, Like that's where part

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Speaker 5: was what three years older than Redford at the time, and.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to talk to you for a few minutes

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Speaker 4: about diabet us.

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Speaker 5: Right, he looked thirty years older. I mean, we talked cocoon.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, here's here's some of the genesis of that.

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Speaker 5: So all of that, like the timeless nature of it.

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Speaker 1: All the way through Evall and Robert Prosky and and

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Speaker 1: uh uh and and and James. What's then August the Gambler.

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Speaker 1: who I've never been the biggest fan of. That's probably

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Speaker 1: Everybody in it is so good, and Michael Madson just

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Speaker 1: has this small part and it's so memorable. Why didn't

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to break it, okay, but I do

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Speaker 1: want to say this. They do have a hot take

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Speaker 3: But that's okay. It's been around a long time.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what, We've got hot take on it.

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Speaker 1: So it comes down to the final game, and it's

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Speaker 3: And you know Al.

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Speaker 1: Fowler who was fixing the game up until Roy Hobbs

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Speaker 1: Al Faller about things. But so it's two nothing going

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Speaker 1: get a base hit, Bivens gets a base hit, and

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Speaker 1: You got running you know, here we are. You got

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Speaker 1: runny runners or runners at first and third. Here we are. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now it's too nothing. And young Berry, the pitcher for

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Speaker 1: pitching a three hitter. Okay, this is I'm such a nerd,

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Speaker 1: aren't it. I'm such a nerd. Young Berry's got a three.

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Speaker 1: And here comes Hobbes up with two on, two out,

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Speaker 1: the ninth inning. This is Roy Bleeping Hobbs, right, He's

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Speaker 1: the best hitter in He's the story. He is Sodo

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Speaker 1: and O'tani and Judge wrapped into one. Okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: come on, it's got balls as dry as your granddaddy's scalp.

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Speaker 1: So again, I'm such a nerd, right, I'm such a

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Speaker 1: natural nerd. So Young Berry loses it right obviously, right,

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Speaker 1: two pitches way outside. The manager of the Pirate, Sibby Cistio,

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Speaker 1: We're taking to say, hey, we're taking the whole week.

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Speaker 1: more remembrances of the natural Robert Redford. We got a

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Speaker 1: huge play of the coming up next as well as

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. What now that everybody seems to be upset

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Speaker 1: that he's breaking every law in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: It help the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, the Jason Smith Show with my best

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Speaker 1: We got big stuff on Tom Brady coming up a

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Speaker 1: decide when you're broadcasting a Major League Baseball game tonight, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the first home run by the home team we get,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give it the natural treatment. Well you get

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Speaker 1: to be the play of the day.

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Speaker 3: And now.

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Speaker 5: To pity and it's time not paying to New York?

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Speaker 5: Can they open again?

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Speaker 3: Met's TV on the call.

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Speaker 1: You would see the broadcast as Baty is rounding the bases.

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Speaker 1: They have the light explode, you know, falling over him.

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Speaker 1: They superimposed stuff from the natural. They play the natural music.

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Speaker 1: You hear the crack of the bat for Redford. A

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Speaker 1: really cool thing. And I don't know if other ballparks

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Speaker 1: have done stuff like that tonight. I'm sure they have,

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Speaker 1: but that's been the big thing that's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of attension on social media.

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Speaker 3: You know, you see the you.

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Speaker 1: Know the lights, you know, and you like how in

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Speaker 1: the movie the Light, you know, one light it's connected

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Speaker 1: to the entire staateum. You hit the wrong light, you

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Speaker 1: knocked the wrong light out that all the other lights

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Speaker 1: are gonna do.

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Speaker 4: It's like a Christmas tree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it goes.

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Speaker 4: All It takes that one bulb to take down your

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Speaker 4: entire tree. All the work, all the hours.

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Speaker 5: Now you gotta go bulb by bulb and find that

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Speaker 5: little bag of replacements that's tethered at the end of

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Speaker 5: one of those strands. You're not sure what you or

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Speaker 5: if you pull them off, what box they're now?

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Speaker 8: Wit?

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: Now you're in lighting hell.

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Speaker 1: So again, that's awesome, a big ovation for that, and

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Speaker 1: you know, as we remember the life of Robert Redford,

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Speaker 1: who passed away earlier today at the age of eighty nine,

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Speaker 1: we'll have more natural a conversation, maybe more hot takes

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Speaker 1: about some.

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Speaker 4: More natural conversation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you just tried to go through the

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Speaker 5: whole thing of logic instead of suspending your disbelief.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that they'd really pitched to him there.

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Speaker 3: Well, it probably wouldn't know. They wouldn't. That's a whole thing though.

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Speaker 4: You want me.

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Speaker 1: I really think they'd be trying to set him up

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Speaker 1: on the outside, maybe get him to extend, since you

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Speaker 1: know he's bleeding. I mean I realized the first time

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Speaker 1: he actually hit the ball, the cover got torn off

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Speaker 1: the ball, which I you know you but I think

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Speaker 1: that happened once in baseball. I want to say that

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Speaker 1: sometime and there was some kind of minor league thing

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Speaker 1: where the ball where the uh, the flap came off

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Speaker 1: the ball a little bit. Some I thought I remember something.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you had enough guys with razor blades and

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Speaker 5: stuff cutting into the ball. I'm sure that did something. Dude,

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Speaker 5: disrupt the integrity of the leather and the stitch. That's

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Speaker 5: not a ball. We want a real ball. I throw

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Speaker 5: the ball, not that, not that stuff. Give me the ball.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell me.

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Speaker 5: Tell me you didn't love it when the ball you

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Speaker 5: were using, you know, with your buddies out on the

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Speaker 5: play loot started to come apart. Oh yeah, that's it,

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Speaker 5: now you pull it off. It was all sticky, yeah

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Speaker 5: the way down. Let's take forever to try to just unloose.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, uh so, such nerds. But like this movie

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Speaker 5: just takes when.

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Speaker 1: I tell you, you know, in about a half hour,

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Speaker 1: because we got we had a lot of football to

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Speaker 1: get to you. I'll tell you. I'll tell you a

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Speaker 1: great story about the natural and something I did in

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Speaker 1: high school that I can't believe I did it, but

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Speaker 1: I did. But I'll tell uh So, everybody's mad at

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Apparently Tom Brady buying into the Raiders, having

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Speaker 1: an active role and also broadcasting for Fox is ruining

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Speaker 1: the sanctity of the National Football Oh you know, that's

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Speaker 1: my favorite terminology we use here on this show, Stern, Stern,

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Speaker 1: you have ruined the sanctity of this Last night, a

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Speaker 1: bridge too far from Many that Brady was shown on

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Speaker 1: a headset in the booth for the Raiders game against

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, and there's been a lot of hubbub about this.

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Speaker 1: The NFL responded to that today by saying that Brady

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Speaker 1: did not violate any NFL rule by wearing the headset.

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Speaker 1: There is not any conflict of interest with Brady being

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Speaker 1: a broadcaster for Fox and getting inside information by owning

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Speaker 1: the Raiders and hearing what he hears for before a

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Speaker 1: game and using it to help the Raiders during a game.

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Speaker 1: The big rule for Brady, who's minority on for the

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Speaker 1: Raiders and a broadcaster for Fox, is he is prohibited

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Speaker 1: from going to a team facility for practices or production meetings,

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Speaker 1: but he sits in the coaches booth. According to the league,

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Speaker 1: he can be on zoom calls. And the big thing

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Speaker 1: that this comes down to is all the meetings you

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Speaker 1: have before games where the coaches tell you about things

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Speaker 1: going on with the team so you can use them

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Speaker 1: for the broadcast. Right, That's where it really comes down to, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Brady is cheating, Brad shitting. First thing I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you is this, right, this is the biggest thing. Nobody

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Speaker 1: cares about this. The NFL was telling you, we don't care. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Brady didn't do anything. Fans don't care about this. The

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Speaker 1: only people that care. Why this seems like it's a

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Speaker 1: big story is because there's sports writers and people in

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Speaker 1: the media who, for some reason, this is the the

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Speaker 1: worst thing in the world. They want to be haters

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Speaker 1: and they want to just drink that hater rate and

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Speaker 1: gulp it down and say, yeah, Brady can't do this.

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Speaker 1: He is ruining the National Football League. That's the only

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Speaker 1: reason this story is getting any sort of run is

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Speaker 1: because there's people in the media that just really think

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Speaker 1: this is the worst thing in the world. And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what, nobody cares. Yeah, I appreciate body.

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Speaker 5: The further he's gotten away from New England, we've gone

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Speaker 5: back to some semblance of rationality, normalcy, and decorum in

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Speaker 5: our discussions of Tom Brady. Now, if it goes back

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Speaker 5: and we play some highlights against the Jets, I can

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Speaker 5: see you start to get a little uneasy in the chair.

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Speaker 5: But where we're at right now, with Tampa Bay and

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Speaker 5: a couple of years of retirement, a bunch of trading

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Speaker 5: card shops that he's opened as a buffer, you're in

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Speaker 5: a better place. Related to Tom Brady conversation in this

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Speaker 5: vein look, I get it his history. You go back

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Speaker 5: and everybody starts talking about Spygate, everybody starts talking about

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Speaker 5: to flate gate, even though as they say to flate Gate,

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Speaker 5: they either start to giggle or they readily admit that

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Speaker 5: it's one of the dumbest things that's ever been part

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Speaker 5: of our lexicon in sports.

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Speaker 4: But we move on.

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Speaker 5: This would be another potential for chaos with Tom Brady involved,

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Speaker 5: and that's I think part of it is. All right,

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Speaker 5: they want it to be the next page, the next chapter,

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Speaker 5: the next paragraph on a Wikipedia page. In that regard,

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Speaker 5: he's not going into the facilities, so that does create

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a buffer, right, So he's not

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Speaker 5: walking into the building. And again I don't know if

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Speaker 5: people think he's gonna suddenly pull out one of those

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Speaker 5: little spot cameras from back in the day, or he's

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Speaker 5: got the medical.

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Speaker 1: I think you're going the wrong way if you want

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Speaker 1: to prove your point about spy No, no, no, only not

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Speaker 1: the right one to you know.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is that I like, is that where.

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Speaker 5: The lunacy of being really upset about this is like,

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Speaker 5: that's what he's gonna do. He's gonna start walking in

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Speaker 5: and suddenly he's going into the shredder and he's taking it.

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Speaker 5: And now he's taping stuff back together in his home

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Speaker 5: that he lifts from the facility, or he's trying to

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Speaker 5: get out.

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Speaker 4: On the Hey, could you go get me a glass

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Speaker 4: of water?

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Speaker 5: And then he slips behind the desk, gets behind the

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Speaker 5: computer or starts, you know, faxing himself documents and scanning

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Speaker 5: stuff like.

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Speaker 4: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: The coaches are going to tell how much they really

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Speaker 1: give you every and even if.

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Speaker 6: They did giving you, but even if they did, but

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Speaker 6: even if they did go back to Greg Olsen, we

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Speaker 6: talked about it in the preseason, right he did a

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Speaker 6: Bears game and he made a reference about how much

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Speaker 6: they were gonna utilize and how much they love Luther Burden.

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Speaker 1: You know how much that's played out, not a damn

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Speaker 1: bit now, not years Luthor, He's invisible, no, So I mean,

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Speaker 1: if nothing else, it was a red herring at this

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Speaker 1: point of lying doing this is why nobody cares, and

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Speaker 1: every and and the and the media people that care

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Speaker 1: about this is overblowing it so much, okay, because the

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Speaker 1: big thing you're coming down to is that he's in

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Speaker 1: these meetings with the coaches before the week where they

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Speaker 1: tell you about things with the broadcast. Do you really

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Speaker 1: think these coaches are coming in saying, hey, no, Tom,

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Speaker 1: these are some secret things we're working on. We're do that,

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Speaker 1: or are they telling you flavor things for the broadcast?

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Speaker 1: And when they come up and by the time the

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Speaker 1: Raiders would play anybody, they would see everything that was

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Speaker 1: on tape from that game. You'd see everything they tried

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Speaker 1: to do. Hey, they wanted to get the ball to

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Speaker 1: this guy. What Brady's gonna go? Hey, they said they

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Speaker 1: want to get the ball to this receiver at least

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Speaker 1: six seven times. Well, yeah, we saw the tape of

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Speaker 1: the game. They got it to him eight times. I mean, really,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting any You're not getting any event no one.

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Speaker 1: No one's coming in here and saying, hey, I will

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Speaker 1: tell you this, but don't tell anybody. Brady's not running

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Speaker 1: to the Raiders and saying this is what they like

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Speaker 1: to do. I think Brady can parse what's going on

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Speaker 1: in a football field pretty well. I think you see

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Speaker 1: the tape of the game, But no coaches are coming

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Speaker 1: in here and saying, hey, we're giving you all our seagnal.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing right, Well, Kevin Burkhart and say, dude, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm a Mets and Jets fan. Tell me what this

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Speaker 1: team told you. So I could tell Aaron Glenn, I'll

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Speaker 1: call Kevin Burkhart. He's in the same meetings. So with

651
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Speaker 1: all of this stuff, it's almost as if they there's

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Speaker 1: just a wanton disregard and disrespect for every other coach

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Speaker 1: and personnel person that Tom Brady would have interaction with

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Speaker 1: in the course of these meetings, Like they're all a

655
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Speaker 1: bunch of fanboys. They're gonna say, here, Tommy, here's everything.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 5: No, this isn't a kid standing on the side of

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Speaker 5: the road asking for an autograph.

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Speaker 3: These are professionals.

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Speaker 5: It's Tom Brady. Okay, there's a respect to him, but

661
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Speaker 5: not gonna We normally don't do this, but because you're

662
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Speaker 5: Tom Brady, like, here's our special plays on third down

663
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Speaker 5: that we might trot out. Just want you know, we're

664
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Speaker 5: gonna give you the inside dope.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing?

666
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Speaker 1: And really, it's it's it's it's just media. Either it's

667
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Speaker 1: grudge media or it's I'm bored. I don't have anything else.

668
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about how this is ruining the game

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Speaker 1: right right? Okay, does it have a look that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit odd? Sure, But I mean, did anybody get

671
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Speaker 1: mad when the Colts owner was down on the sideline with.

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Speaker 4: A headset on and a play sheet. Nobody gave a damn?

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Speaker 1: So this is so much nobody cares about this story.

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Speaker 1: Nobody does exit op by to Fresca, exit swallowing' dome.

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Speaker 1: Brady is fine, And it's not like it's helping the

676
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Speaker 1: raiders a rowing too, Like, really, how's it helping?

677
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Speaker 4: Well, what's he doing? Is he trying to submarine Gino Smith?

678
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Speaker 5: So people clamor for him to come out of the

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Speaker 5: booth and play quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He takes off the headset, he just rips his shirt.

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Speaker 1: He's got his jersey on under like Kareem and airplane.

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Speaker 1: They pull him out.

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Speaker 3: He's got his Laker jersey on.

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Speaker 4: Ah, come on, get.

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Speaker 1: Back in there, Todd, Hey, really, Tom Brady's left the

686
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Speaker 1: So the chatter on the toush push is now reached

702
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Speaker 1: another limit. It's like every year, we're gonna do this

703
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: every few months. The touch push is the outer limits.

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Speaker 1: The touch push is terrible. It took you had Eagles

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Speaker 1: players saying today that their blood is boiling. It's disrespectful

706
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Speaker 1: when people talk about banning the toush push. And look,

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Speaker 1: I've told you before, I don't care so much because

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Speaker 1: other teams are allowed to do it, they decide not to. Okay,

709
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Speaker 1: you want to talk about the safety of the play, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can still do it if you.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to do.

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Speaker 5: At this point, you you've got no data to support

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Speaker 5: the safety thing, right, you're you're waiting that and you've

714
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Speaker 5: got that box, right, you put it in your spreadsheet.

715
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 5: You're waiting to get that first guy that you can

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Speaker 5: put down at sea.

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Speaker 4: He got he got hurt really badly and what did again?

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Speaker 5: He got a he got a face mask that scraped

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Speaker 5: across his arm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it counts.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen had a broken nose. He came back in

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Speaker 1: right away, plays land Trubisky. It refers down on third

723
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Speaker 1: and seven. Okay, but like it's hey, hey, it's all time.

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Speaker 1: Playoff leader mitched Trubisky to you found the leader. Leader Leader.

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Speaker 1: You've seen the last year and a half teams that

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Speaker 1: don't want the toush push, try to find a way.

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Speaker 3: What's going there?

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Speaker 1: They're pushing and prodding and saying, okay, what works right,

729
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: Like when you when you're trying to prod the Jenga pile, like, okay,

730
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Speaker 1: what's the one what's the one block that's going to

731
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Speaker 1: move so I can grab it put it on top,

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Speaker 1: and oh, we're pushing with the safety thing. Safety things

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Speaker 1: not working. But if you want to ban it, what's

734
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Speaker 1: going on the last twenty four hours, this is what's

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Speaker 1: going to ban it? Because what has been the latest

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Speaker 1: the latest thing with the toush push after this past week,

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Speaker 1: after the Eagles use it a few times against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Look at how the Eagles are lining up offside, look

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Speaker 1: at how they get a jump on it. Look at

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Speaker 1: we'll get their their alignment or not lining up correctly.

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Speaker 1: And you have heard through officiating sources that the play

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Speaker 1: is very difficult to officiate.

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Speaker 4: The Dean Blandino and the quiet part out loud.

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Speaker 1: That is where if you want the tush push band,

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Speaker 1: that's what you have to look at and say officials

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Speaker 1: can't officiate it. You can't have a play that officials

747
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Speaker 1: can't look at and can't tell what's legal and not legal.

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Speaker 1: We can't have that. If you go down that road,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna wind up getting the play banned, because then

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Speaker 1: you come with all kinds of instances and example saying here,

751
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: look right here, here's off sides, here's the two guards

752
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of a forward momentum push. Here's

753
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Speaker 1: where the tackle is allowed to line up in this

754
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: spot you can and these are all things that are missed.

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Speaker 1: And you have Dean Blandie and others saying it's really

756
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Speaker 1: hard to officiate so while that part of it has

757
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: come out as hey, hey, hey, don't yell at us,

758
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: it's a hard play to officiate. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If

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00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: it's too hard to officiate, we can't really have it

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Speaker 1: because now you can't give a team incredible advantage when

761
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Speaker 1: they're skirting the rules on it. If this is just

762
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Speaker 1: we do it better than everybody else, Sorry, you're up

763
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Speaker 1: a creek without a paddle, right, If they do it better,

764
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Speaker 1: you can still do it if you want to. Right,

765
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Speaker 1: you've decided not to. Okay, I'm not gonna say that,

766
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Speaker 1: but if you but if it's now become where they

767
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Speaker 1: have an advantage because officiating they can't do it, that's

768
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Speaker 1: where that's what you can't. That's where that's what you push.

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Speaker 1: That's what's gonna be fungible enough for you to say, Okay,

770
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: now we can really get some lamento behind, don't we

771
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: can't have the touch push ban. And maybe next year

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Speaker 1: when they look at things, it gets benned because that's

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Speaker 1: the evidence of pushes it over the time. Yeah, they

774
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Speaker 1: just needed a couple more votes this last round of it.

775
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: And look, we saw an x a number.

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Speaker 5: Of videos that got tagged right, by the NFL in

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Speaker 5: terms of impropriety of as, hey, you have no right

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Speaker 5: to redistribute that. So that was kind of an interesting

779
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Speaker 5: little twist to it. But we have the invisible line,

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Speaker 5: we get the all twenty two and everybody doing their

781
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 5: screen grabs and everything else, and it gets the chatter further.

782
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 5: You've got Dean Blandino, who is a former head of

783
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 5: officiating all of that, so his comments are certainly going

784
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 5: to add fuel to the fire. And when you get

785
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 5: down to it, you can make some of the other

786
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 5: arguments and back those up again of hey, why is

787
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 5: it legal for the offense to push? But defensively you

788
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 5: still lose the opportunity based on forward progress and all

789
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 5: of those kind of things that those are secondary the

790
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 5: officiating raising their hand and saying, hey, it's tough for

791
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 5: us to separate the pile, to spot the ball, to

792
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 5: do all of those things right, Because where's Jalen Hurts

793
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 5: really down trying to adjudicate that unless he's well into

794
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 5: the end zone.

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Speaker 4: Good luck.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I understand it's legal for the other thirty

797
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: one teams to try it, they haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 4: Do I want it outlawed?

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Speaker 2: No?

801
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 4: But certainly this week. Yeah, you found the legal loophole.

802
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 5: I would send the lawyer lawyers to make the argument.

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00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 5: There's Lionel Huts, go just hammer that home. I Linel Huts,

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Speaker 5: attorney in law.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next to got more in the Natural, and

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Speaker 8: I am doing outstanding, my friends. The Mets one tonight

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Speaker 8: an easy win for your team, So I knew watching

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Speaker 8: We go, and I think that there was plenty of

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Speaker 8: the Mets tonight. They get four innings on the Holmes

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Speaker 8: a prevailing thought process on jan Soto season when it

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Speaker 8: in Boston in May when there was all this pressure.

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Speaker 8: But he has exhausted all that dialogue. And now the

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Speaker 8: Mets are branding a little easier right now about exactly

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Speaker 8: what their playoff chances are.

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Speaker 1: All right now, we'll get to the rest of baseball

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00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: in the second. But I want to throw this by

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Speaker 1: you because we talked about this a lot obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: honoring the life memory of Robert Redform the natural, which

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you have seen approximately one hundred and fifty times.

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Speaker 8: Like I have, of course.

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Speaker 1: So I want to throw this by you here because

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Speaker 1: you know this is something that I really feel like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a big error at the end of the playing game.

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Speaker 1: Right, So the Knights are down to bottom the ninth

865
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: inning with runners on first and third to young Berry.

866
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: Wild goes two and zero on Roy Hobbs, and then

867
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: the manager, Ciddy sisty, former mlber, comes and takes young

868
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: Berry out of the game, brings in John Rhodes, best

869
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: fastball in Major League Baseball, not even a season under

870
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: his belt. Aren't you walking Roy Hobbs in that situation?

871
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: First of all, you're probably walking him because you don't

872
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: want him to beat you with two on and two out,

873
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: you're absolutely walking him.

874
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: If a reliever is.

875
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: Coming in inheriting a two and ohero count, you're not

876
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: trying to come from behind in this a bat. You're saying, Okay,

877
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: go down to first base. I'll figure it out with

878
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: a cleanup batter. That a character that we don't even know,

879
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: he's not even been the movie yet. I think that

880
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: was like a strategy that could have been done a

881
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: little bit differently correct.

882
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 8: I think that there was a different way to pitch him.

883
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 8: And as we know, one of the tenants that has

884
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 8: always existed in in professional baseball is that if a

885
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 8: veteran left handed slugger has bloody spots on his jersey,

886
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 8: you gotta side fastball inside bastball. And that's basically what

887
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 8: what the logic was. And the catcher's like, oh my gosh, well, Roy,

888
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 8: what's going on? I got, I got throw on the

889
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 8: inside fastball, and it's we believed that forever, and he

890
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 8: and it was interesting because he goes with he puts

891
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 8: the two fingers down first and then goes one, indicating

892
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 8: that there was probably a system of multiple signs going on,

893
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 8: and he thought he could beat him inside with with

894
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 8: with a fastball. Clearly he did not, I believe, by

895
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 8: the way that And since you are a greater historian

896
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 8: in this movie than I am, but I believe that

897
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 8: that scene was filmed at the War Memorial Stadium in Buffalo,

898
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 8: New York, Am i am? I correct about that. It

899
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 8: was the old War Memorial Stadium, which I've heard was

900
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 8: just a cavernous old triple A ballpark. Of course, they

901
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 8: now play closer to downtown at salein Field, which once

902
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 8: was called dun Tire Park, which of course was home

903
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 8: to the Blue Jays for a while. Dalla Blue Jays

904
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 8: have their residence at the top spot of the Al East.

905
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 8: But yes, love Buffalo, great baseball town, great hockey town,

906
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 8: and for that movie was the home of the the

907
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 8: New York Nights. And certainly condolences to the family of

908
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 8: Robert Redford, what a legend. I would also say all

909
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 8: the President's men also epic that as as a journalist,

910
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 8: the clip has been making the rounds of when he's

911
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 8: on the phone working the Watergate story, as as the

912
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 8: Allan Eagleton news is going over the ticker and the

913
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 8: wire in the background, just cinematically, dramatically, absolute masterpiece. Robert Redford,

914
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 8: we have lost a legend.

915
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 5: To my friends, I figured you were going to give

916
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 5: us a couple of lines out of indecent proposal.

917
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: Instead, instead you went journalistic.

918
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 8: I should probably stay with what I know, which would

919
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 8: be sports and journalism. When we venture outside and into

920
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 8: indies and proposal, I'm not so sure that i'd be

921
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 8: that I would be in my same comfort.

922
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 5: Zone all right now about some marvel cinematic universe, No

923
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 5: like the superheroes we've been watching on the Diamond. Another

924
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 5: guy that probably shouldn't see another pitch to hit is

925
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 5: cal Raley. How do you best encapsulate what he's done

926
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: and continues to do here with record setting moments each

927
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 5: and every night, the.

928
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 8: Best season all around that any one catcher has ever had.

929
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 8: You could easily argue that I realized that Joe Mauer

930
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 8: won three batting titles and Yogi Berra won all the

931
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 8: World Series rings. And obviously we don't know if cal

932
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 8: Rowley seems gonna win the World Series or not. But

933
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 8: in the modern game, the demands on the catcher being

934
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 8: what they are. The nbple runs and he's hit the

935
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 8: fact that he's got to keep two different swings in

936
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 8: line all the time, and he's catching so frequently. I

937
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 8: just I think that he has had one of the

938
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 8: great seasons that we've ever witnessed. And I'm not convinced

939
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 8: that he's going to win the MVP yet. I think

940
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 8: there's still a pretty compelling argument for Aaron Judge too,

941
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 8: And by the way, this is one of those years

942
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 8: when there's no wrong answer. I just think that what

943
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 8: Ralegh has done is so unique historically. It's just it's

944
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 8: really hard, really hard to catch that many games and

945
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 8: to still be that productive all season long. And where

946
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 8: guys people were saying in July, Oh, cal Raley, he's

947
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 8: gonna taper off his numbers. No way, He's going to

948
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 8: still be a productive hitter in the second half. He is.

949
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 8: And not only is that the case, he's pulling even

950
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 8: passing people like Mickey Mannlin, Ken, Griffy Jor. I mean,

951
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 8: it's his next level stuff. So cal Raley, the Mariners

952
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 8: now won ten games in a row and his MVP chances,

953
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 8: I would say, my friends are as strong now as

954
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 8: they have ever been.

955
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: Is it this simple?

956
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: John Paul? We break it down. Is it this simple?

957
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: If the Mariners win the West, cal Rawley wins the MVP.

958
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, it's Aaron Judges.

959
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: Is it really? Could it be that simple?

960
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 8: It could be. I think that it's let's put it

961
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 8: this way. If I back up a little bit, it

962
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 8: should not be that simple, because let's say on the

963
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 8: last day, if the center fielder drops a routine fly

964
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 8: ball that with two outs the ninth inning and the

965
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 8: Mariners lose the division. It wasn't like. It wasn't like

966
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 8: cal Rally's season becomes any less impressive because of something

967
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 8: that had nothing to do with him. So I'm always

968
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 8: a little bit wary of that. But I'll say this,

969
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 8: this team has not won the America League West title

970
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 8: in twenty four years. They've had a surge in September

971
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 8: to give themselves a chance, and if they win it,

972
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 8: it's going to be because of him. I don't know, guys,

973
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 8: it's historically great what he's done as a catcher. This

974
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 8: is an MVP year. I'm not convinced he's gonna win it,

975
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 8: but it's an MVP year. What Aaron Judge is doing

976
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 8: is also an MVP year. The piece that Rally, though,

977
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 8: just to me elevates him a bit, is just the

978
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 8: difficulty that we have in quantifying the value of a

979
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 8: catcher and how many plays, the impacts he impacts every

980
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 8: single pitch during the course of a major league game,

981
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 8: he impacts when this team is on defense, and now

982
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 8: he's hitting into the mid fifties at home runs. Guys,

983
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 8: as a you're talking about value of a player to

984
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 8: his team, I just don't know that there's a more

985
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 8: vital player anywhere in Major League Baseball to his team

986
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 8: than cal Rawly is the Mariners. And that's not It's

987
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 8: not a Christmas of anybody else. I just think that

988
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 8: the delta between between Raleigh and the second most important

989
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 8: Mariner is greater than Judge. To take your pick of

990
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 8: a Yankee, whether it's Stanton right now, others with with

991
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 8: the Phillies, Shoreber to Harper. Let's say Dodgers show a

992
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 8: to Freddie. I just think the gap is bigger for

993
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 8: for cal Rally to the number two player on that

994
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 8: team than probably anyone else that's been a serious MVP

995
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 8: candidate in recent years.

996
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 5: Fun with numbers. Current implied odds have Raleigh at a

997
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 5: five percent chance. Meanwhile, in the National League, we got

998
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: a no hitter f have no hit innings from.

999
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: Shot is two yeah, nine chance of him beating Schwarber

1000
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: right now, Jas.

1001
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 8: Those chances are they're going up. I would say the

1002
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 8: chances are a little less than ninety nine percent. The

1003
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 8: Dodgers would allow him to try to finish nine innings tonight.

1004
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not banking on that.

1005
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's already gone there ye, so there you go.

1006
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 8: That was I was following the boxerom before we came

1007
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 8: on the air. That was what I was witnessing. So

1008
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 8: he's not going to get the complete game. But everything

1009
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 8: that Otani has done has told the Dodgers that he'll

1010
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 8: be ready to start whatever game they need and that

1011
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 8: he really should not have significant limits in terms of

1012
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 8: his of his pitch count in October. He should be able,

1013
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 8: in my opinion, at least get to the ninety pitch

1014
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 8: range and if for being fair, the Dodgers rarely let

1015
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 8: their guys go above ninety pitches in the in the

1016
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 8: postseason anyhow so, I think in many ways he is

1017
00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 8: ideally prepared for what's to come and showy Otani all

1018
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 8: the criticism that he was there are just the questions,

1019
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 8: I should say, not criticism, but just questions about if

1020
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 8: he was going to be able to come back, what

1021
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 8: do you ever pitch again? How can he keep all

1022
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 8: this stuff balance now that his body is older than

1023
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 8: it was two years ago when he was doing this

1024
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 8: for the Angels. I just think it's one of the

1025
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 8: most impressive things I've ever seen his sports, which Showeyo

1026
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 8: Towny has been able to do, and he's proven to

1027
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 8: the Dodgers and the entire baseball landscape that he is

1028
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 8: still the elite pitcher that he showed himself to be

1029
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 8: with the Los Angeles Angels.

1030
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi.

1031
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: Check him out on the MLB Network. John Paul is

1032
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: always buddy, Appreciate it, my friend. We'll talk to you

1033
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: next week. Enjoy the games.

1034
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 8: That was good, Hey by today. I think my Lions

1035
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 8: Bears pick was fairly accurate. I might have given the

1036
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 8: Bears a little more credit than I thought they deserve. Yeah, okay,

1037
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 8: but there you go. So I guess I am two

1038
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 8: and zero. The Lions are one and one.

1039
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but long you have a better record than the Lions.

1040
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 8: I haven't bet a record than the Lions. All right,

1041
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 8: real good about it.

1042
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: So give me your pick for this weekend coming up?

1043
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: After fifty two points against the Bears, the line, the line,

1044
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: the red hot Lions offense now red hot coming back?

1045
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: How do you like them this week? Monday Night against

1046
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens.

1047
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 8: I guess the Ravens Monday Night. My goodness, What a

1048
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 8: great spectacle that's gonna be. I believe it will be

1049
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 8: the Lions twenty four to twenty. It's gonna be tighter.

1050
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 8: Notice I didn't pick twenty seven or seventeen. Detroit twenty four, Baltimore.

1051
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: Twenty undefeated celebrity Lions picker John PALMROSI giving you the

1052
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: final score four Monday Nights taking the under, John Paul,

1053
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

1054
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you Joyce.

1055
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 8: But my understanding is that the Ravens didn't score a

1056
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 8: ton of points last weekend, so I think it's there's

1057
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 8: a bit of a low scoring vibe right now, so

1058
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 8: it's gonna be twenty four to twenty Detroit.

1059
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: There we go, There we go, making from his normal score,

1060
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: which is usually twenty seven for detection right twenty four

1061
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: for the Lions this weekend.

1062
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 5: There goes job Tall fifty two. As you're over under

1063
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 5: for that one. Fireworks for us.