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Speaker 1: Jake Pats, and Stacy Ross. We're gonna be getting you

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Speaker 1: guys ready for Seattle's upcoming game against the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: They're first over there in the AFC West. But first,

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Speaker 1: before we do that, we gotta quickly recap the win

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Speaker 1: over the San Francisco forty nine ers. Uh. Seattle had

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Speaker 1: maybe their most balanced game of the season, Tom, Dave,

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Speaker 1: and Jake. They were great on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Obviously another strong performance from Russell Wilson in this offense,

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Speaker 1: thirty net yards through three quarters. We know there was

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Speaker 1: lot of yards yards to Nick Mullins, but the important

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Speaker 1: thing is they got out with the win. What kind

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Speaker 1: of challenge Dave does Buffalo present specifically for Seattle's defense

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Speaker 1: this week? Well, I just think when you're you're may

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously, the the run defense is probably their

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Speaker 1: He's he's a good running quarterback. He's a tough guy too.

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Speaker 1: What is it just your tired, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: You know, let's say it's a prevent defense. It's like,

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Speaker 1: thinking of calling linebacker anger the Wyman's scale? Maybe, like

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Speaker 1: this past week. I'm gonna go ahead and get started

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Speaker 1: a kind of switch that happened with him starting in

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Speaker 1: week five, or or something that happened over specifically the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks, or has it just been kind of

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Speaker 1: two off games. I don't know if it's something that's

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Speaker 1: happened with him specifically as much as it is teams

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Speaker 1: kind of figure out. They figured out the strength of

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Speaker 1: this offense, and they more or less, starting with Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: sold out to limit the downfield passing and limit the

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Speaker 1: big plays, and Josh Sallon struggled at first, so that

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Speaker 1: if they're the first two games of that being patient

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Speaker 1: and trying not to I guess do too much and

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Speaker 1: be that guy that he was the first four games,

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Speaker 1: and he really had to remind himself, as he tells us,

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Speaker 1: to stay patient and to take those underneath routes and

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Speaker 1: take whatever the defense gives him, and eventually it'll open

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Speaker 1: things up for the downfield passing. So I think he's

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Speaker 1: more or less he's the same passer mentally. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I think he's still learning how to beat

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Speaker 1: this his own coverages. But he didn't play two poorly

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Speaker 1: over the past four weeks. Still had that three hundred

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Speaker 1: yard game against the Jets, and he actually wasn't even

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Speaker 1: horrific against the Titans. He wasn't as bad as that

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Speaker 1: final score would suggest. But I think this is a game,

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Speaker 1: especially considering Seattle's pass defense, I think this is a

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Speaker 1: game where we see kind of an aerial more of

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Speaker 1: an aerial attack than you've seen a week's past. Hey, Marcella,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Jordan Poyer. Kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: He didn't really have a home for a while, was

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, Philly, and boy, the last four years with

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Speaker 1: Buffalo he's on pace for one hundred and what forty

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Speaker 1: tackles and just playing really well all over the field.

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Speaker 1: But I won't ask you just in general about him

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Speaker 1: and this defense has I mean, I don't know, they're

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Speaker 1: kind of middle of the pack defense. What's been kind

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Speaker 1: of the story there, that's been the that's been the

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Speaker 1: story out of Western New York these first eight weeks,

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Speaker 1: is what is going on with this Bill's defense that

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Speaker 1: we've come to know as an elite unit in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, first and foremost, they're just not They're

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Speaker 1: not healthy. When you look at the starters and the

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Speaker 1: key bench players, their key reserves, I don't really think

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Speaker 1: they've all been healthy in the same game at all

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Speaker 1: the season, maybe I think a series one defensive series

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Speaker 1: against the Raiders in Week four. So there's that they're

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Speaker 1: missing star Lutu La La. They're one tech defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: They've struggled to replace that kind of spikes eating player

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Speaker 1: that that opens up russing lanes for for his teammates.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they've also been playing some They've played

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Speaker 1: some pretty good offenses Tennessee in Kansas City and nothing

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Speaker 1: to stop at Miami is proven to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: more formidable of an opponent than I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people gave them credit for. And then the Rams

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Speaker 1: are are the Rams, but Poys he's special in that

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Speaker 1: it's not just it's not just him, it's that combination

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Speaker 1: of him and Micah Hyde that gives Buffalo one of

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Speaker 1: the one of the underappreciated shafety duos in the league.

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Speaker 1: And especially against a team like Seattle who's got a

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Speaker 1: guy like DK and that gap and a quarterback like

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Speaker 1: Russ who can stretch the field. Those two, that's their

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Speaker 1: deep ball deterrent, that's Buffalo's deep ball deterrent, and it's

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Speaker 1: critical to get both of them on the field at

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Speaker 1: the same time, Marcel, as you're looking at this game,

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Speaker 1: what are some of the key matchups in your mind?

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Speaker 1: As you're looking at this through a you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bill's lens. What's some of the keys there

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Speaker 1: as you're looking at it. First and foremost, they've got

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Speaker 1: to be able to They've got to be able to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of the Seahawks pass defense, and even with

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Speaker 1: the addition of Jamal Adams, it's not an excuse because

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Speaker 1: they've seen plenty of josh of Jamal Adams. He was

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Speaker 1: in their division for the past several years. So they've

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Speaker 1: got to be able to exploit that through the air.

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Speaker 1: I'm also want to see how this Seahawks run defense

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Speaker 1: or other way around, how this Bill's rushing offense handles

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks runde that's allowed I think just three teams

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Speaker 1: to break that hundred yard mark this season. On the ground,

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Speaker 1: they've been resurgent up late to Bill's rustling or offense

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Speaker 1: has been resurgent of late, But can they keep that

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Speaker 1: amen up going against what's been a pretty stout seahawkspe Marcel,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Bills fans are relieved to have Brady out

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Speaker 1: of the division, and so you know, we're we're seeing

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Speaker 1: New England sort of lose their stranglehold on the AFC's

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Speaker 1: gradually here. But I'm just curious does that inject any

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Speaker 1: confidence into the Bills players at all? Like, do they

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Speaker 1: look at this as their time? This is their division? Now?

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Speaker 1: They do? And you know a lot of people even

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Speaker 1: in that September range and uh, and maybe even late

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Speaker 1: in the preseason when the the how deep can they go?

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Speaker 1: Is this an AFC title contender? When all that thought

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Speaker 1: was swirling, the Bills were focused on one thing and

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Speaker 1: that was winning the AFC staying especially without Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: and with the Patriots clearly having a clearly in a

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Speaker 1: down year. Uh, they figured the iron they got to

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Speaker 1: strike while the iron's hot. That's why they went out

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Speaker 1: and made that move for Stefaun Big because they know, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this is these windows don't always open up. You just

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Speaker 1: never know in the NFL when you can get locked

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Speaker 1: into a twenty year dynasty. So whenever there's a crack

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Speaker 1: and you gotta do whatever you can to throw that

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Speaker 1: thing open. Hey, Marcel, what's the latest with Buffalo's injury situation?

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Speaker 1: Are there any starters you're watching the progress over this week. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's actually funny you mentioned that the injury

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Speaker 1: report just came out. As you said that. Now, as

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Speaker 1: far as starters go, it's clairvoyance. I'd say it looks

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Speaker 1: like Micah Hyde turned in a full practice today. He

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Speaker 1: was in concussion protocol. It looked like he was in

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Speaker 1: stage four of it yesterday. He removed the red jersey today.

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Speaker 1: That suggests like the injury report says, a full participation.

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Speaker 1: Cody Ford starting left guard, limited again. Starting center Mitch

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Speaker 1: Morse did not practice, but he did do some work

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Speaker 1: onto the side. He's also in concussion protocol. U linebacker

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano also second straight DNP with a pictorial injury.

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Speaker 1: That's major going up against a past happy team like Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano is the Bills. He's their best past coverage

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Speaker 1: guy in the middle of the field, past coverage linebacker

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. But I mean the

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Speaker 1: listeners kind of goes on from from there. Quentin Jefferson

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Speaker 1: rotates a lot in y'all know, y'all are very familiar

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Speaker 1: with them up in Seattle. He was limited today. John

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Speaker 1: Brown came back in full Um. You know he's been

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Speaker 1: battling injuries and as far as starters go, that's that's

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Speaker 1: about am So, yeah, I don't know if if y'all

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Speaker 1: could could retain all of those names. And uh, it's

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Speaker 1: crazy to think it's last year. Last year, like week twelve,

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Speaker 1: Week thirteen, You're looking at these injury reports for the

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Speaker 1: Bills and they're maybe a name or two deep, and

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Speaker 1: one of them is going to be a vet rest day.

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Speaker 1: And so this is something that they have not had

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Speaker 1: to deal with over the past couple of seasons. All Right,

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Speaker 1: he is Marcel Luis Jacques. He's a Bills reporter for

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Speaker 1: ESPN dot com. If you want to follow him for

557
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: some updates Hawks fans, that's what I'm doing. Follow him

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Speaker 1: at Marcel Underscore LJ. Thanks so much for joining us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you have me on. All right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a look. We're back in Seattle now looking at

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Speaker 1: this offensive line with Ray Roberts. That's next in the trenches.

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Speaker 1: On the huddle. This is the huddle every Thursday from

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Speaker 1: noon to two on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: into the huddle with Dave Wyman, Tom Wasastle, Jakeebson, Stacy

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Speaker 1: Ross joining us right now. Former offensive lineman and host

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Speaker 1: of the Seahawks pre and postgame show Ray Roberts, Ray,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm alright, Say how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. Um gosh, There's so much I

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Speaker 1: want to cover with you because you're so great at

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Speaker 1: this in depth stuff. So I'm just gonna get started

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Speaker 1: with the left guard situation. If Mikey Potty can't go again,

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Speaker 1: who's their replacement there? How's he been? Well? You know,

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Speaker 1: femin has been a plan in place of Jupati, and

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Speaker 1: I know that every now and again they sprinkled in

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Speaker 1: h Jones, But I think, you know, with more reps

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Speaker 1: in the and what I've seen from Simmons, he's getting

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Speaker 1: a little bit better from game to game. Uh. He's

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Speaker 1: not you know, tearing the world, setting the world on fire.

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Speaker 1: But he's also not, you know, been a detriment to

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Speaker 1: what the Seahoffs are trying to get done on offense.

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Speaker 1: So I've been pleased with him. The big thing always

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Speaker 1: with him is his injuries, and so so far he's

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Speaker 1: been able to stay healthy enough to fill in for

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Speaker 1: Jupati in that spot. Uh, And I think he brings

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, obviously, you Patty brings like

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Speaker 1: the experience and just his girth and power, but I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, with his age, he's obviously not as athletic

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Speaker 1: as he used to be, and so I think Simmons

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Speaker 1: brings some of that athleticism to that position into that

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Speaker 1: spot on offensive line. Big ray, do you think this

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Speaker 1: can be a dominant run team? Do you think that

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Speaker 1: they can they can develop into that? Well, you know

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Speaker 1: my mind, Sat day, even if I don't think that,

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Speaker 1: I think that you're going to go out there and

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Speaker 1: block somebody. I just always want to drive people into

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Speaker 1: the ground. Dude. That's just part of the that's just

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Speaker 1: part of the job description for that position. And so

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Speaker 1: I think though that. You know, obviously, last week was

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Speaker 1: a hard week game to judge him on with with

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Speaker 1: you know, with the DJ Dallas having to play that spot,

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Speaker 1: with all the injuries and things, and him just trying

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Speaker 1: to get his feet wet had been a rookie learning

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Speaker 1: how to take the reps in his offense and carry

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Speaker 1: that responsibility. But from what I see, uh, they have

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Speaker 1: definitely as a unit elevated themselves to more middle of

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Speaker 1: the pack offensive lines in the in the NFL, they

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Speaker 1: become very efficient at protecting Russell and when Chris Carson

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Speaker 1: and their horses are in running the ball, they've shown

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Speaker 1: the ability to move people, uh to to create some

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Speaker 1: lanes for for some big plays, but also just get

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Speaker 1: those three or four or five yard uh games that

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Speaker 1: are necessary to kind of keep the defense on it.

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Speaker 1: So as far as being dominant, I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're right in a in a

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Speaker 1: position to step into dominance, but being efficient and just

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Speaker 1: and be and being a real asset for sure, one

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Speaker 1: one thousand percent sure, for sure. Like you think about

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Speaker 1: even uh, you know Shell at right tackle, he's another

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Speaker 1: guy who if you look at his grades on Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus, they're not gonna wow you or anything, but

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Speaker 1: you compare him to what was there before, and he's

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Speaker 1: not doing anything to hurt the team. He's not piling

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Speaker 1: up penalties, especially untimely penalties or before the snap penalties

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Speaker 1: or personal file penalties and those types of things. And

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Speaker 1: so that's a that's a positive there, just in and

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Speaker 1: knowing that that that position is consistent, you know what

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Speaker 1: you're getting there. And then Damian Lewis is just becoming

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Speaker 1: every week becoming more and more dominant, more and more comfortable.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, learning how to use his hands

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Speaker 1: a little better, you know, his hand placement better, and

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Speaker 1: then moving his feet a little bit on and pass protection. Uh,

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Speaker 1: some some errors he needs say prove on, but he's

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Speaker 1: a dude that shows that that has shown that he

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Speaker 1: can improve on those things. And then the guy that

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Speaker 1: we don't talk a whole lot about is post it

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Speaker 1: and you know post it to me is uh is

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Speaker 1: learning on the job. He's been one of those dudes

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Speaker 1: they've moved around a lot, and his injuries and all

639
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: that types of things that kept him out of the lineup.

640
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: But he's just he's kind of quietly having a pretty

641
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: solid game. I watched him a lot last week just

642
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: in the middle, just how he managed himself, how he

643
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: managed offensive line, how he handled like his uh, you know,

644
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: single a lot blocks, how he's working on double teams.

645
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: But the thing that I really like to look for

646
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: Dave is like the busy work. So when you're in

647
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: pass detection or run blocking and you don't really you know,

648
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: you don't have an assignment to get to, but you

649
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: find someone to go freaking lace him some some leather

650
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: on like that kind of busy work this whole entire

651
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: offensive line has and I love that. So when you're

652
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: freed up as a pass protector and someone has stretched out,

653
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, bull rushing the guard and you're the center,

654
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: and you go give him a nice rib shot, that's

655
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: fine and work bro like. And I love that. I

656
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: love when when when I see dudes doing it on

657
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: offensive line, that mean they're offensive linemen. They're not dudes

658
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: that are learning how to play, They're not transitioning from

659
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: defensive offense. These are dudes that are career offensive linemen

660
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: and they know how to do the work. You know

661
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: what that does is it causes fights to happen out

662
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: on the field, as Rag Roberts knows. And yeah, I

663
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: love it too. I love it too. Ray. This is

664
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: a question that I've been waiting to ask you to

665
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: this point of the season. I've had this one in

666
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: the chamber for you. Dwayne Brown. Everybody has been the

667
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: talk about Dwayne Brown in his future in Seattle was hey,

668
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: you gotta find somebody of the future. You gotta find

669
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: somebody to replaced Dwayne Brown. And I am curious to

670
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: see what you see from Dwayne Brown this year in particular,

671
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: do you not only see a very solid left tackle

672
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: who one of the best in the in the game

673
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: right now, but do you see a guy who is aging,

674
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: who's losing this step any of that that would make

675
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: you question his future long term here in Seattle. I

676
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: will say this Jake at the at At certain points

677
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: during last year, especially during the end of the season,

678
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: I was starting to think to myself, like, man, like

679
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: this dude might be, you know, as great as he is,

680
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: he might be getting you know, he may be getting

681
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: really close to the end because he just didn't seem

682
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: like he was moving as fluidly as he normally did. Uh.

683
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: He was getting beat by some uh, some moves that

684
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: you wouldn't normally him and get beaten by. Uh. But

685
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: then you look at all the little nick Naggie injuries

686
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: he's had and how that may have slowed his game down,

687
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: then it kind of makes sense. Because the big difference

688
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: that really changed my perspective on that this year is

689
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: when they started pulling him around the corner and like,

690
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: so now they you know, they they're running the ball

691
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: to the left side, they're blocking down with an outside

692
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: receiver tight end, and then they're pulling him around the

693
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: corner to lead the offensive the running back that says,

694
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: this dude is primed and he's feeling good, and he's

695
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: at an all pro football all level. And so when

696
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: I see that, then I'm more encouraged that he has

697
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: at least another couple of years under his belt if

698
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: he can stay healthy. Because when he's healthy, to me,

699
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: he's still wanted the top three or four left tackles

700
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: in the league because the dude is just powerfully, real

701
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: powerful in the run game. He's real easy and fluid

702
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: in the and the and the past past protection. And

703
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: so what I see is a is almost like a

704
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: rejuvenated Dwayne Brown. And I think a lot of that

705
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: is based on him just feeling really a lot better

706
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: just physically his knees, his knees feeling better, as ankles,

707
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: feeling better than managing his practice reps and things like that,

708
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: allowing him to be in a fresher spot when the

709
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: when the when the games come around. So what I

710
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: see this year as a Dwayne as a return to

711
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: the old or the more effective, dominating Dwayne Brown that

712
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: that we were used to see ing when we first

713
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: got him. And like I said this past weekend. Uh,

714
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, Dwayne Brown is just one of those dudes

715
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: that like when when when you sit, when you come

716
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: to the sideline, you come into the huddle as an

717
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, like especially a young dude, you'd like to

718
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: be able to connect eyes with somebody that knows what

719
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: the hell they're doing. And when you look at Duwayne Brown,

720
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing and he brings a lot

721
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: of comfort in that and in the offensive line room

722
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: and knowing that he brings a lot of comfort to

723
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: the to the to the huddle in that and then

724
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: and then and then he's another dude you just don't

725
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: want to make angry. Like I said, like when even

726
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: he walks, I feel like the grass it's like going like,

727
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, please don't come my way. The dude

728
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: just's he's just a big, scary, physical dude. And uh,

729
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: and I think he's doing really good work this season.

730
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Ray as you know, Uh, tight end blocking at times

731
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: during Pete's tenure here has been i'll say questionable at best.

732
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: Have you gotten to feel or a sense for guys

733
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: like Olsen and Hollister and Dishley and how they're blocking

734
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: on the other side of the line. Well, the thing

735
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: I liked about uh Olsen is that you know, Olsen

736
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: isn't going to dominate anybody, but to dude, there's an old,

737
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: crafty veteran. So he knows how to get himself positioned

738
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: and in order to be a fact. And he's also

739
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: a willing blocker and uh and so I see the

740
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: same thing in uh this league like this. Lea's calling

741
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: card was as a blocking tight end, and so I

742
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: think he's very efficient at that and blocking been a blocker,

743
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal to him. I think the

744
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: biggest surprise for him is how well he's being able

745
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: to run routes and catch the football and then um

746
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: and then Hollister. Hollister I think is Uh. I don't

747
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: know if he's a very effective blocker, but he's He's

748
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: also a willing blocker, and so part of it has

749
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: been is understanding that's part of what you have to do,

750
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: and then going about it the same way you go

751
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: about you know, running routes and catching the football. And

752
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: those guys seem to be committed to doing that. Are

753
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: they the best pass I mean run blocking tight ends

754
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: in the league. No, they're not, But but do they

755
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: do well enough for them to be effective with this

756
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: offensive line in this running scheme. Absolutely absolutely. See when

757
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: you're we know that not having your name called is

758
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: a sign of a good game, right, Like you don't

759
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: want to be hearing an offensive lineman call. But when

760
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm watching Damian Lewis, for instance, what's a sign that

761
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: I can watch for and think like he's having a

762
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: good game? Because sometimes those stats are like quiet, you

763
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So like, what can I see

764
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: physically to the eye where I think like this looks

765
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: like a good performance from this rookie. Well, the one

766
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: thing that you can look the look at is in

767
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: the run game, right, so to see it's like to

768
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: run this zone blocking scheme. So that really zone blocking

769
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: just means that you're trying to create double teams at

770
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: the point of attack so that you can account for

771
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman like slanting in a different diffraction and

772
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: still get up to the linebacker and all that kind

773
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: of stuff. It doesn't mean that you're not playing power

774
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: football because you're running zone plays. But in order for

775
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: the zone scheme to work, the guard and the two

776
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: guard position in the center have to be really strong.

777
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: They have to be able to create movement. They have

778
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: to more than anything not allow penetration. So in a run,

779
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: in a running play, and you're watching Damian Lewis, if

780
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: he just has a stale meat and the dud and

781
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: the person he's blocking isn't coming across the line of scrimmage,

782
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: he's winning. He's winning that block. The stellmate goes to

783
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: the freaking offense, okay, and pass protection. One way to

784
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: know that even not just Damian Lewis, but the center

785
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: and the other guard are doing well is the depth

786
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: of the pocket is there. So when you get this

787
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: pressure from the outside and Russell has been able to

788
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: step up in the pocket and still have room to

789
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: throw the ball or have a place to escape, then

790
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: that is telling you that those interior dudes, those three

791
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: the center of the two guards are doing what they're

792
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: supposed to do. And pass protection. The guards and the

793
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: center create the depth of the pocket, and the tackles

794
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: create the width of the pocket. And so when those

795
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: moments when the width of the pocket collapses in his

796
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: room for the quarterback to step up, then the two

797
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: guards in the center during the job. And so we've

798
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: seen out a lot with Russell. He's been able a

799
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: lot of times. We were used to seeing him escape

800
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: to the outside, but he's had several times this year

801
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: where he's been able to escape up the middle, or

802
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: step up in the middle and make a pass, or

803
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: step up in the middle and buy some more time

804
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: to make a throw. So to me, those are if

805
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: you just want to quit indicator as yeah, if those

806
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: interior positions are doing what they're supposed to be doing,

807
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: those are two ways to look at it, all right.

808
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: That was in the trenches with Ray Roberts. We learned

809
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: something new every week. I swear you can follow him

810
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: at Big Ray Roberts. You can also hear them on

811
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: the Seahawks pre and postgame show this Sunday, and of

812
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: course right here on the huddle. Ray, thank you so much. Well,

813
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: no problem. I love coming on. I love that you

814
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: guys have interest in the offensive line. We do because

815
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: I've been the whole you know, pre game and postgame

816
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: show talking about d K freaking metcal No, We're done

817
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: with not here, not on the huddle. Well, and we

818
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: talked to a pretty boy quarterback on this show. We're

819
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: heart need to bring in football. I need to add

820
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: a little toughness. Yeah, exactly, thanks, right, all right, no problem,

821
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: you have a go right, all right. We're gonna be

822
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: joined by the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Next

823
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: on the on the Huddle every Thursday from to two.

824
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Huddle, the com Waffle, Dave Wyman,

825
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross Joining us right now the

826
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: voice of the Seahawks Seahawks play by player man, Steve

827
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: ravel Raves. Hi, how are you. I'm good? Stacy, how

828
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: are you? I'm good? So we obviously have great news

829
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: for Seattle's defense this week. Not only do they have

830
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of have a prove it game

831
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: against the Bill's offense, but they're getting reinforcements with Jamal

832
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: Adams expected to come back, and also a debut of

833
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap. Are you expecting that much of an impact

834
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: from him or do you think he'll just be kind

835
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: of a helping hand. I mean, what kind of overall

836
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: impact on this team are you expecting for him? It's

837
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: a good question. Had he been sitting out all this time,

838
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I'd probably have less feeling that he would come in

839
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: and actually, you know, do something, you know, really impressive

840
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: right off the bat. Although he's a terrific football player.

841
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: But he's been even though he's been maybe not playing

842
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: as much as he'd like to back in Sinci, especially

843
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: the last couple of games. You know, he's gone all

844
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: through training camp. He knows what he's doing. He's in

845
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: good shape, he's ready to go, even sitting for what

846
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: a week or so under COVID just to make sure

847
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: everything was okay. I think I think he'll play, and

848
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: I think he'll make a couple of plays. I don't

849
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play thirty snaps. I could be wrong,

850
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: but I know that I know that Pete likes him,

851
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: and John like him, likes him and that big rangy guy.

852
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: And you know, when we talk about making plays, it

853
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean he has to get sacks. When he

854
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: stretches out that six six frame and get those long

855
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: arms up, just knocking passes down would be quite helpful,

856
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: making the quarterback, making Josh Allen throw around. You know,

857
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: somebody who's got those long arms could be helpful for

858
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: the defense. So I expect to see I expect to

859
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: see him contribute. See if I forgot to tell you that,

860
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, this is my fault that you're kind

861
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: of in booth partner Dave Wyman is here. I know

862
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: you were looking forward to getting a break from him.

863
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have to see him until Sunday, but he

864
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: is unfortunately here with us today for that. Yeah, I'm

865
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to go now, take care of guys. Thanks

866
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: not much, ha ha ha, Yeah, you can't escape me. Rabel.

867
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: The other day, I don't know if you realize you

868
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: do this. You turn to me and goes you go, Dave,

869
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: you played the game and I'm like, wait a minute,

870
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: so did you? I mean, what are you embarrassed? And also,

871
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: here's what I want to know. What kind of player

872
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: was Steve Rabel? Were you like a smack talker? Were

873
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: you angry? Were you what were you like on the field? What? What? What? What?

874
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: What brought all this one? We're supposed to be talking

875
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: about the Bills. Yeah you don't. You don't know anything

876
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: about the Bills. Well, you're right, I know a little

877
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 1: bit about him. You know, I wasn't a smack talker

878
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: at all. I was I was. I tried to just

879
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: be a good team player. When they called on me,

880
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: I tried to I tried to do what they asked

881
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: me to do and make plays, try not to screw

882
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: up too much. I was one of those guys, Dave

883
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: and I don't I'm guessing you weren't this way, But

884
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: I was one of those guys that was actually, um

885
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: and this is bad for a football player, which is

886
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: why I only lasted six years. But uh, I was.

887
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: I was so I so much didn't want to make

888
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: a mistake that sometimes it kept me from making plays

889
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: that I really should have made. But you know, you

890
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: understand that you guys who played you and Jake and States,

891
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: I think you played for a couple of years to

892
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: at least in college. Um, but I just didn't want

893
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: to make a mistake. I didn't want to let my

894
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: teammates down and and myself down. Um. So that was

895
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: that was kind of one of my things about playing.

896
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: But you know, I was all right. I lasted for

897
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: six years. But more importantly, it gave me a chance

898
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: to get a good job out here, a couple of

899
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: good jobs. I've been doing the same thing for almost

900
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: forty years, married to the same woman now for almost

901
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: forty years as well. And uh, you know that's that's

902
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: all good that's the biggest upset in marriage history that

903
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: Sharon has. Sharon has stuck it out with you first.

904
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: I'll kick my coverage on that one. I I promise

905
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: you Rabe's I'll bail you out here and get you

906
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: focused here on the on the game. Uh. I know

907
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: that is false. I know that is false with all

908
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: the work that you do. But what are some of

909
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: the things that you look at with the Bills that

910
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: presents a unique challenge for the Seahawks this weekend. You know,

911
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that, Jake, And we think about

912
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who can run the football, and we think about

913
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, and we think about Patrick Mahomes, but we

914
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: need to think about a guy like Josh Allen. And

915
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: he's a completely different physical specimen than those other guys

916
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: at six to five, almost two hundred and forty pounds.

917
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: Back in the day, Dave, when I played, he'd have

918
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: been a defensive end or a tight end. And here

919
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: he is a quarterback. And he's not the most graceful

920
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: in the world. But he can get outside, he can

921
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: run that keep option, he can turn up field. He

922
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: loves they the Bills love to run the quarterback draw,

923
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: especially down on the red zone and he'll bounce off

924
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: of people. He's a big guy. He'll run over some folks.

925
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: So that's one of the things that you notice right away.

926
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: He's got a good arm. It's not the most accurate

927
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: passer in the world, but he can he can definitely

928
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: throw the ball downfield. And I noticed that their defense

929
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: Jake wasn't as as maybe dominating as they were just

930
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: a couple of seasons ago. Remember they were like raided

931
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: near the very top of the NFL in defense, and

932
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: now he's against against the Patriots. They gave up a

933
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: ton of yards last week and almost got beat there

934
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: at home, So you know, I think they can be

935
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: There's some things the Seahawks can do against them, but

936
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: there's still a really solid team. Do you think that

937
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: there is a defense anywhere in the NFL this year,

938
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: Steve that can shut this offense, the Seattle offense down

939
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: completely completely. No, at least we haven't seen him yet,

940
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean there's not one. One doesn't exist,

941
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: or one that we've already seen like Arizona that actually

942
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: they did actually beat us, or well, Niners, they're they're

943
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: kind of over now because there's so many injuries, but

944
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: the Rams, we haven't seen them yet, So I think

945
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: there are some things that that teams will try to

946
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: do against us. You know, you've got to try to

947
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: protect against the fact that Russell can take off and

948
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: run the ball, and when you try to do that

949
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: and just keep him in the pocket like we try

950
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: to do against Kyler Murray and don't try to really

951
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: rush him and put pressure on him, then he's going

952
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: to pick you apart. So I think the teams like

953
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: the Rams who can really bring heat, and in fact,

954
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: I think the Bills can bring some heat too. They

955
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: got a couple of pretty good pass rushers overall that

956
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: left side Dwayne Brown is going to be facing those

957
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: guys Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison. Both guys can rush

958
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: the passers, So you know, I think that's one of

959
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: the ways that you you kind of get to the

960
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: Seahawks a little bit force Rots off his mark. But

961
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: short of that, you know, he's just been so precise

962
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: and his receivers have been so good. And think about it,

963
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: for the last three weeks, four weeks, we really haven't

964
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: had a rushing game going. Wait till we get those

965
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: guys back and start running the football like we like

966
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: to do. And now the defense is starting to come

967
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: more out and we're healthier. This is really going to

968
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: start to get fun. I think he is the voice

969
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks play by play man Steve Rabel Rabes.

970
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Hey, Hi to Sharon for us too.

971
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: I will as she just had her birthday, and her

972
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: birthday was on election day. And for those of you

973
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,959
Speaker 1: who know Sharon, there's only one present that she wants.

974
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. She hasn't gotten it yet.

975
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's coming. Yeah, all right, all right, thanks for

976
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: joining us, Rabes. Okay, guys, see you all right, we're

977
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: gonna take a listen to some sound from Bill's head

978
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: coach Sean McDermott. What's he keeping an eye on when

979
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: it comes to the Seahawks. That's next on the huddle.

980
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two

981
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back into the Huddle

982
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: with Tom Wasssell, Dave Wyman, Jake Eats, and Stacy Ross.

983
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: We are getting you guys ready for the seahawks upcoming

984
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: game against the Buffalo Bills. And to do that right now,

985
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a listen to some audio from Sean McDermott,

986
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: who had a conference call with reporters earlier today. Seahawks

987
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: fans are gonna like this one. Cutting number four, he

988
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: says that Seattle is the premier team in the NFL.

989
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: I mean that's obviously they present a huge challenge. They

990
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl playing at a high level. I

991
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: would say Russell's playing at at an all time high,

992
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, probably MVP level, and they've got weapons and

993
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: they scored a lot of points just like you said,

994
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: so you know it'll be a big, big challenge for

995
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: us defense we had as a team, Dave. If you're

996
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, when you're looking at Seattle, it seems obvious.

997
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: But are you looking at Russell Wilson as like I

998
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: need to watch out for this guy, or is there

999
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 1: another area of Seattle's program where you're thinking this could

1000
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: get us? Yeah? I call him extra meeting, guys. Russ

1001
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: is an extra meeting. You gotta have extra meetings. How

1002
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: are you going to handle him? And he mentioned super Bowl? Wow,

1003
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: went back to twenty thirteen there, but yeah, I mean him,

1004
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: And I think also DK metcalf is he is a

1005
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: very unique type of player. I mean, he's the size

1006
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: of a tight end or a defensive end and just

1007
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: incredibly athletic. And you know, and they were talking about

1008
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: how Tyler Lockett's really fast. Actually DK Metcalf has a

1009
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: faster recorded forty. So, man, those two guys, I think

1010
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: right there are probably you know, you've got to pay

1011
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: special attention to him. There's no doubt that those those

1012
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: three guys that you just mentioned are a problem for

1013
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: anybody in the league. And they do require extra meetings,

1014
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: they do require extra focus. And the problem is, and

1015
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: what the Seahawks offense has been able to do is

1016
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: they've been able to create a pick your poison type

1017
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: of situation. I have waited for a game so far

1018
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: where a team is able to effectively take away both

1019
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and force Greg Olsen, Will

1020
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: Disley David Moore to have to step up consistently throughout

1021
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: the game. And one of the reasons why that hasn't

1022
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: happened yet, guys, is because they're just that good. And

1023
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: cut number five McDermott makes it clear what he thinks

1024
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: the goal of the team should be. On Sunday, you know,

1025
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: you got to figure out a way to counteract what

1026
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: they do, right, I mean, they score a lot of points.

1027
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: We've got to, you know, do a good job on

1028
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: our offense and special teams units keeping keeping them off

1029
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: the field anyway we can in terms of their offense.

1030
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's your best defense, is to keeping the

1031
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: ball away from the opposing quarterback. And so yeah, just

1032
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: overall owed respect for what they do. And Russell Wilson,

1033
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: I'll top of that, there hasn't been a team all

1034
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: year long it's been able to stop the Seahawks from

1035
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: scoring basically throughout any one of these entire games. So yeah,

1036
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: he's right, keep that offense off the field. I Mean,

1037
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: here's the thing I was asking Rabel about these other

1038
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: team's ability to shut down the Seahawks offense altogether. I

1039
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: don't think any team can do it. But even if

1040
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: you do, even if another defense comes along and just

1041
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: smothers them throughout the entire game, the Seahawks always have

1042
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: that quick strikeability right in their back pocket if they

1043
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: need it, right, They're doing nothing all game, no running,

1044
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: no this, no that, all of a sudden boom get

1045
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: bomb to lock it, bomb to MEDCAF you can get

1046
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: fourteen points just like that, So he's all right, the

1047
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: more you can keep them off the field, the better. Yeah,

1048
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's that's what's different. I think about this

1049
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: offense too. This year is like, I don't know how

1050
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: you guys felt the first two possessions against the forty

1051
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: nine ers. I was like, uh, oh, is it gonna

1052
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: be like it's gonna change? What's gonna be the changing point?

1053
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: There's no way this offense will stay this Well, that's

1054
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: the way it is this year. But in years past

1055
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: it seemed like, you know, when they you know, have

1056
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: those problems, it's like, okay, if this is not their day,

1057
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: or we're gonna have to wait till the fourth quarter

1058
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: and Russell is gonna stage just come back. And then

1059
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, you saw that in the half of the

1060
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: Viking game too, they couldn't really get it done. So

1061
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: but that's been the differences that you know, they've not

1062
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: waited until the fourth quarter to all of a sudden explode,

1063
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: and you know that all of a sudden they got

1064
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: that game, they got their their offense going, and next

1065
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: thing you know, DK Metcalf and he was the guy

1066
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: that like sparked the whole thing. He catches what a

1067
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: like a five yard little en route and turns it

1068
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: into like a forty five yard touchdown. Yeah, it is

1069
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: interesting as as Tom and Dave you bring that up.

1070
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: This offense is one that's really very difficult to keep

1071
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: out of the end zone the entire game. But the

1072
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: reason that Sean McDermott is mentioning this and wanting to

1073
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: keep the Seahawks offense off the field, it's it's your

1074
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: best way to try and frustrate them. Look at what

1075
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings were able to do, and if you're

1076
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, that is the one game that actually limited

1077
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks offense for an extensive amount of time. So

1078
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: what that makes me believe is that the Buffalo Bills

1079
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: are going to really try to run the football. They're

1080
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: going to really try to establish the run game. They're

1081
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: gonna really try and get Josh Allen involved in the

1082
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: running game. So that will present a unique challenge for

1083
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense. And because if you're in a situation,

1084
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: if you're the Bills where you're trading points, but between

1085
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Josh Allen, you're gonna take Russell Wilson

1086
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: in that matchup every single time. And let's get back

1087
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: to DK metcalf two. He has six hundred and eighty

1088
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: yards this season. He's second in the league in yards

1089
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: per game with just under a hundred. He also has

1090
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, which already matches his total from last season.

1091
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: The biggest critique of his last season was the drops. Well,

1092
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: he's also increased his catch percentage and that's with an

1093
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: increased workload more targets. He's already over fifty percent of

1094
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: the total targets he had last year and just about

1095
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: twenty reception shy of his total from last year. A

1096
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: phenomenal second season from him and cut number six right here.

1097
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: McDermott knows that too. He was a great player in college.

1098
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: He's a great player now. You know. You see the

1099
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: strength to speed, the hype, the weight, what you see

1100
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: every week when you watch the highlights on Sunday night

1101
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: is what we're saying over watching the coach's table. So

1102
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: that that end of itself would be a big challenge,

1103
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: let alone in their entire offense. What DK I mean

1104
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: when you look at his improvement from a season ago

1105
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: to this year in terms of that catch percentage. It

1106
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: is the amount of work that he puts in that

1107
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: he put in this off season was outstanding. And the

1108
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: self discipline to look at his rookie year and say, no,

1109
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: although that was a good rookie year, I'm not gonna

1110
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: be sitting back and you know, feeling good about myself

1111
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: and feeling good about the opportunity to continue to keep

1112
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: building and just expect it. He continues to work for it,

1113
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: and you know, making sure that he was better at

1114
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: catching the football was a huge priority to him this

1115
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: off season. The fumbles were a priority to him this

1116
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: off season. Where you watched him working and seeing him

1117
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: down in San Diego where he was, that was such

1118
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: a point of emphasis for him every single day, every

1119
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: single catch, every single time he caught the ball, tucking it,

1120
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: running with it, securing the ball, you know, ten fifteen

1121
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: yards after the catch. Just love the work ethic of

1122
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: this young kid. How did that thing? Didn't they live

1123
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: together Jake over the offseason? Didn't Dk stay with Russ

1124
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: for a while. I'm just curious how that camp? Bob?

1125
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah he did? Uh? He? And I think did he

1126
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: go to Russ and go, hey, can I can I

1127
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: live with you? Man and or how did that go? Well?

1128
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: Russell has always extended invitations for everybody not to all

1129
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: stay at his house, but to come throw with him.

1130
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: And Dka is one of those unique guys where it's like,

1131
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: if you extend that invitation, he's gonna be there every

1132
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: single time, you know. And I've had that moment with

1133
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: him myself before the before training camp started, he he

1134
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: had me throw to him and he's just he wants

1135
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: to continue to get the work no matter what. And

1136
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 1: so hey, if Russell Wilson extends that invite, you better

1137
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: believe that DK is gonna be starting. He's not only

1138
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna show up, but he's gonna bring his bags and

1139
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna move in with you because he wants to

1140
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: take advantage of the work and get in as much

1141
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: as possible. And I think that, you know, the month

1142
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: to two months that they spent together throughout the off season,

1143
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's paid off in a huge way. Now

1144
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the Bills, We've been talking about

1145
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: how the Bills see the Seahawks. We're gonna get back

1146
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: to the conversation about the Seahawks defense because they have

1147
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: been dealing with a series of injuries all season long,

1148
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: some of those more serious than others. Bruce Irvan lost

1149
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: for the season in Week two, Marquis Blair lost for

1150
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: the season in Week two. You've had you know, Quandre

1151
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: Diggs ejected for a game. You've had Quentin Dunbar dealing

1152
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: on and off with a knee issue. Obviously, Jamal Adams

1153
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: the one we've all been watching with his growing issue.

1154
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: But guess what you're going to get reinforcements this week.

1155
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, he's on track to return, Carlos Dunlap on

1156
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: track to make his debut for Seattle. How different will

1157
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: this defense look with those two on it? That's next

1158
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: in the huddle. This is the huddle every Thursday from

1159
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: noon to two on seventeen an ESPN Seattle. Welcome back

1160
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: to the Huddle with Tom Wasastle, Dave Wyman, Jake Keats,

1161
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: and Stacy Rost. Dave, let's just get right to it.

1162
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: We're talking about how different this defense is going to

1163
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: look like with Jamal Adams and Carlos Dunlap. How much

1164
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: work are we expecting for each of these guys, or rather,

1165
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: are you expecting because Jamal Adams is coming back from

1166
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: an injury it's the first time playing since Week three.

1167
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap doesn't have an injury, but he's also with

1168
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: a brand new team. I mean, are we expecting kind

1169
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: of a limited participation for both guys. I would think

1170
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams would be one hundred percent of the snaps,

1171
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, but it seems like they

1172
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: really were cautious with him, and so I think he's

1173
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: going to be a full go And with with Dunlap,

1174
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: I would say maybe fifty. I feel like they're probably

1175
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: gonna work him in a little bit more slowly. So

1176
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: do we have news on Benson Mayoa by the way,

1177
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: have we not yet? Yeah? So, I mean it depends

1178
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: a little bit there. They talked about him and how

1179
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: you know, Benson Mayowa has had, you know, some games

1180
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: with a lot of snaps. Usually you talk about rotating

1181
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: the big guys, the interior defensive tackles in and out,

1182
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: but but yeah, the defensive ends too. I would think,

1183
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I would think Dunlap, you know, maybe

1184
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the snaps would be something that because,

1185
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: like Pete said, he was playing just two weeks ago,

1186
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: so it's not like he's not in game shape. So

1187
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, but I would think

1188
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 1: with Jamal Adams, I don't know what you guys think.

1189
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought they waited long enough where he

1190
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: can be full go and just the way Pete said,

1191
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: it sounds like, okay, he's unlimited. Yeah, I picked up

1192
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: the same thing too. I mean, I think that at

1193
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: this point when you have Jamal Adams, this is a

1194
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: situation where you look at it and say to yourself,

1195
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: all right, you feel really good about Jamal Adams coming

1196
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: back this week and feeling confident, feeling like he can

1197
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: play himself and not really putting any restrictions on what

1198
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: he can do this week, which is a huge positive.

1199
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: Dave mentioning Benson Mayowa. By the way, he didn't participate

1200
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: in practice yesterday because of an ankle injury. So that's

1201
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: why we being an eye on him obviously, because he

1202
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: plays that same leo position as does Carlos Dunlap. And

1203
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: we have about a minute left here, would you mind

1204
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: just explaining I feel like so many fans already know,

1205
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: but just for those that don't, what is the position

1206
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: specifically that they're looking at for Dunlap that leo spot? Well,

1207
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: I just think they're going to get him on the field.

1208
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like he can be Yeah, I

1209
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: mean I think for putting you at safety, is that okay? Yeah,

1210
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: he can play, he can play on both. You know.

1211
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I'm actually doing the Pete Carroll thing today

1212
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: and I was going to ask him about the history

1213
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: of the LEO because I believe in San Francisco was

1214
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: called like the Elephant, yeah, something like that. So and

1215
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: I think it was Fred Dean and Fred Dean just

1216
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: passed away, so yeah, it was kind of kind of sad.

1217
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: But I had a Fred Dean T shirt when I

1218
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: was in high school. It was like a little cartoon

1219
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: picture of Fred Dean, number seventy four. And I think

1220
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: that's kind of where the whole thing originated. But I'm

1221
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: going to talk to Pete about it. But you know,

1222
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: usually it's like a Cliff Avril, you know, Bruce Irvan

1223
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: type of the LEO position. It's kind of a quick

1224
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: twitch guy who comes off the edge and then the

1225
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: other guys more you know, able to take on a

1226
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: tight end and a tackle the five technique which is

1227
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: just outside shade of the of the tackle. So um, yeah,

1228
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: I just think just get him on the field. It

1229
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, you know what, He's just a good football player. Yeah,

1230
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: all right. We speaking of good football players, We've got

1231
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: two Seahawks joining us next, cornerback Quentin Dunbar and rookie

1232
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: running back DJ Dallas. That's next on the huddle. This

1233
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: is the huddle every Thursday from noon to two on

1234
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: seven ten ESPN Seattle. All right, Seahawks practice just wrapping up,

1235
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: so we are going to be joined in just a

1236
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: little bit. Before we do that, though, let's get back

1237
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: to a conversation about this defense. We cut that one

1238
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: a little bit short, so can we get back. I

1239
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: literally had someone on the text line texted and say, Dave,

1240
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: can you explain quick twitch? And I'm just gonna I'm

1241
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: gonna ask you. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said that.

1242
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, just that they're more of

1243
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: a speed rusher, and you know that you'll see him

1244
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: coming off the edge and you know, just a guy

1245
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: like and and the the other guy on the other side.

1246
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: The five technique, which it's just a numbering system, you know,

1247
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: starts in the middle with zero head up on the

1248
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: guard as to head up on the tackles. Four inside

1249
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: his four eye outside his five. Yeah, it's just a

1250
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: little and some people do it differently how the numbering

1251
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: system works. But the guy on the other side, who's

1252
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: the defensive end in the five techn he's more of

1253
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: a bigger guy, like a Rashime Green type. You know,

1254
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin who was with um, you know, he was

1255
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: on he was on that side, and then they had

1256
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter on the outside where you know, you're trying

1257
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: to get that guy just soloed up on a tackle

1258
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of times they'll chip with

1259
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: the back if the guy's a problem, but you're trying

1260
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: to get him sold up, and he's gonna make quick

1261
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: type of you know, pass, swim, rip, spin, all of

1262
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: those kinds of things, and just a gifted, you know,

1263
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: faster guy that comes off the edge. And that was

1264
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: the kind of weird thing with Clowney is he was

1265
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: really more of a five technique guy than he was

1266
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: a guy that would would rush off the edge. And

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01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, I always think back like the days when

1268
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: I played rufus Porter. A lot of people remember him.

1269
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: He was just incredibly fast and just you know, had

1270
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: good quick hand movements, great feet and could beat you

1271
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: just be a really good athlete and beat the tackle

1272
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: off the edge is what is what I mean there.

1273
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna be joined here in just a bit by

1274
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: cornerback Quinton Dunbar and running back DJ Dallas for some

1275
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: back to back interviews. Jake, when you look at the

1276
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: way that the Bengals were using Carlos Dunlap versus how

1277
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: you think Pete Carroll and the Seahawks plan to use him,

1278
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: do you expect more productivity in the second half of

1279
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: this season for him? Yes, I do. I expect more snaps,

1280
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: but well it comes with more snaps, but more so

1281
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: than anything else. I mean, you're at some point when

1282
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: you're a player, and Dave can tell you this, the

1283
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 1: attitude of the player, the attitude of the situation also

1284
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: determines your output. Right, It's not just about your your

1285
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: physical ability. It's about your desire. It's about your love

1286
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: of the game. And so when you are in a

1287
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: situation where your a, your reps are being demoted, be

1288
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: you're at war with the coaching staff and the organization,

1289
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: it becomes drudgery and you're not playing to the standard

1290
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: and giving the effort in which you normally would and

1291
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: and he has been giving for nine seasons in this league,

1292
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: being highly productive. So I think at some point he said,

1293
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta I gotta find a way to

1294
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: get out, get out of this situation and make it

1295
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: extremely difficult. And now he's in the situation where he

1296
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: feels valued, he's excited, he's being put in a role

1297
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: that he knows very intimately, and so I think it

1298
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: is going to lead to, uh, you know, a success

1299
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: for him and for this team. Yeah. Sometimes I think

1300
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: guys end up joining teams that appear to be super

1301
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: Bowl bound and they think like, oh, well, I'm going

1302
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: to be a depth player, and I might not be,

1303
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, I may just be playing special teams. I'm

1304
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: just kind of a hanger on trying to get a ring.

1305
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: But in this case, with a guy like dun Lab,

1306
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't a very obvious need for him there.

1307
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: You know, they're not calling him here just to say,

1308
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: all right, give us what you can and go out

1309
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: and blaze the gloria. I mean, they really need that

1310
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: type of production. They need what he can give to them.

1311
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: There's a specific reason why they went after him and

1312
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: not other guys. So I hope he's coming here with

1313
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: a very defined purpose, and I hope Pete and he

1314
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: have that discussion before he takes the field. I'm sure

1315
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: he will. Let's take a look at that. Secondary to

1316
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams also coming back Ryan Neil, You guys, he's

1317
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: dealing with a hip injury, so he's limited, but presumably

1318
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: Adams will retake that starting position. I mean we all

1319
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: know that, but presumably he'll be playing, like you said, Dave,

1320
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time, So you aren't really

1321
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: going to see Ryan Neil out there in a relief role.

1322
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: Do you think there's still like a space for him

1323
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: on this team? Because if I were to ask Seahawks

1324
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: fans in Week one who's Ryan Neil, most of them

1325
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't know. And this isn't a dig at Ryan Neil.

1326
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: He was on the practice squad, and I think most

1327
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: folks aren't keeping a close eye on who's on the

1328
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,479
Speaker 1: practice squad now. Most fans have just kind of fallen

1329
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: in love with a story. Do you think there's still

1330
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: a role for him on this team somewhere? Yeah? I

1331
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: think so. I mean I look at yeah, I'm trying

1332
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: to say this is the right way. I mean, you

1333
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: see kind of the limitations that he has, and you know,

1334
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: one of the reasons. One of the indications was, you know,

1335
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: I said that in the fourth quarter, they made lots

1336
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: of mistakes. You could see him, you know, slapping his

1337
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: hands together after you know, things that he you know,

1338
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,959
Speaker 1: didn't do. You saw him like blitz off the edge

1339
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: and just sort of make contact with the running back

1340
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: but not be able to tackle him. Jamal Adams tackles him,

1341
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean, I think he has his limitations,

1342
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: but he can continue to get better, that's for sure.

1343
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: And he's been a good player, you know, not great

1344
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: like Jamal Adams. And I think you'll see a difference

1345
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: when when Jamal Adams. And that's not a dig on

1346
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: Ryan Neil. I think he's a fantastic story. And again,

1347
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: he'll get better and better as he gets more playing time.

1348
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: He just hasn't gotten any playing time up until this

1349
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: point anyway, right, And so when you look at Ryan Nel,

1350
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: what it does give for you, you know, Dave, as

1351
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: you're pointing out, is somebody that you feel like you

1352
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: can rely on, someone that you know that's going to

1353
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: come in and has had that experience. And one of

1354
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: the other things that will be interesting, Dave. I'm curious

1355
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: if they find who's going to be that dime package,

1356
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: because that was something that they at the beginning of

1357
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: the year. If you remember, Lan o'hill was playing, and

1358
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: they kind of got away from right because of the injuries.

1359
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: But it looks like they've kind of gotten that depth

1360
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: back in the secondary between Ryan Neal, between Uguamadi and

1361
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: now DJ Reid. Do you think you could find them

1362
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: potentially going back to some of those dime packages. Yeah.

1363
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: I like what I saw it a DJ Reid. I mean,

1364
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: he really looked good, so I think, yeah, that's right.

1365
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: His old team well, and I think I don't want

1366
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: to say Schneider pulled a fast one, but you know,

1367
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: signing him off their practice squad, I think they they

1368
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: they definitely didn't want that to happen. You know, while

1369
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about this secondary, we might as well bring

1370
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: on cornerback Quinton Dunbar. Quintin, how are you how you

1371
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: doing good? Good? Um? Well, I'm gonna just start by saying,

1372
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: I know you can't tell us all about the conversations

1373
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: that y'all had last week, but we clearly saw just

1374
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 1: a defense that was just on fire going out against

1375
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. Clearly you guys were

1376
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: focused on bouncing back from a loss, but it looked

1377
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: like you guys were playing with just a different kind

1378
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: of energy. It was fun to watch. Were there conversations

1379
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: you guys had, I mean, what was the difference in

1380
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: that week? Huh? Just trying to get better, man, I mean,

1381
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily say we did. We had a conversation.

1382
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: Did everybody who with the competitiveness just trying to go

1383
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: out there, you know, and try to turn it defent

1384
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: the round? Hey, Quinton, one of the things I've really

1385
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,879
Speaker 1: loved watching is you're good against the run, man, especially

1386
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. A couple of those edge plays that you diagnosed.

1387
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: It looks like, Number one, you take a lot of

1388
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: pride in your your run game, and and also just

1389
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: how rewarding is that versus coverage. I mean, do you

1390
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: do you like playing the run as much as the past? Oh? Man?

1391
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: This is part of being a pro man. I'd take,

1392
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, try to take uh every little nugget into

1393
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: the game, and you know, and just be a pro

1394
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: about this situation. I mean, as much as I like

1395
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: to find in the past, I got to feel the

1396
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: same way without about the run man, because that's what

1397
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: the good ones do. Now, Quentin, as as you're as

1398
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: you were preparing to get ready to be a part

1399
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks organization. You know, what was kind of

1400
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: your mindset coming in here, And how has it been,

1401
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, gelling with this new group of guys, because

1402
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: it's all it's it's difficult. Everybody kind of talks about

1403
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: how it's just, oh, we add this player and it's

1404
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: gonna automatically, gel It's gonna automatically come together. But there's

1405
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: a lot of work that goes into it in terms

1406
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: of learning a new system, learning your new teammates. How

1407
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: has that process been for you? I mean obviously I

1408
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: had a little situation so I got in late, so

1409
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, um, not being able to have OTAs and

1410
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: things like that. You just you know, you um, you know,

1411
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: coming and then coming in and let you just you know,

1412
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: pretty much learning things on the fly. So you know,

1413
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: you just got to try to get better each and

1414
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: every week and um, you know, and then as much

1415
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: as reps you get through out of them weeks, you

1416
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: should be you know, getting better. So that's what I mean.

1417
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: Just trying to do just trying to just continue to

1418
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: get better. Quentin, how stressful was that whole situation for you?

1419
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: I mean it, you know, it popped up and then

1420
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: you had to get ready for football. Can you just

1421
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: describe how that might have warre on you mentally? Oh,

1422
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it warned me mentally. Man. But I

1423
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 1: know I'm a firm believer of God, man, and I

1424
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: talked to him every day. So man, with him, I

1425
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 1: feel no evil. So God got me through through a

1426
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: lot of those days and a lot of those nights.

1427
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: So pretty much of Quentin, who are some of the

1428
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: guys that you bonded with here? A new guy coming

1429
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: in here that you've had. I know there's not a

1430
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: lot of hanging out these days, but who are some

1431
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: of the guys that that you hang with on the team,

1432
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean pretty much the whole team, man, from the

1433
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: office to side. Ind decide. Obviously, I grew up with Gino.

1434
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: I went to middle school with Gino, So I mean

1435
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: I I kick it with him. I mean the Griffin brothers.

1436
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm a pretty easy going guy.

1437
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: So man, I just kick it and laugh with everybody. Man.

1438
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: Just no, So that's pretty much it, Quentin. Uh, when

1439
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: when you're looking at how you're preparing for the Buffalo Bills,

1440
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: what is the unique challenges that they bring to the table,

1441
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: and how are you guys kind of talking through You know,

1442
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: obviously you're not gonna give us the game plan or anything,

1443
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: but you know, what are the challenges that they bring

1444
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: to you and what is what is that that you're

1445
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: looking forward to. I don't really necessarily going to the

1446
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: game thinking, well, um offense, Uh, the challenges that they

1447
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: bring us as long as we do our things the

1448
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: right way and be technical, sound, you know, and focus

1449
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 1: on our keys man, nobody can own you know, be

1450
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: the so that it's more of a focus on you thing.

1451
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: You do your things right in there, take care of everything,

1452
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: gilts Quentin. One player I've been talking about all week

1453
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: long was the touch you got on McKinnon on that

1454
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: two point conversion attempt by San Francisco. There. If you

1455
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: didn't get that down as quick as you did, that's

1456
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: a much much different game. Is that just reflex from

1457
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: a veteran player on your part? Or did you could

1458
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: you see that he hadn't gotten across the goal line yet?

1459
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: I mean this um um this having vision, man, I mean,

1460
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm a big vision guy, and um, obviously we was

1461
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: in man, so I came off my man late and

1462
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: just tried to make a play. So, I mean, one

1463
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: of my gifts as a football players is able to

1464
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: read concepts and have vision and see different things, uh

1465
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: in processes as So, like I said, we was in

1466
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: man and me understanding that you know they put the

1467
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: why half back out why the set up a pick lee.

1468
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: I just came off my man and just try to

1469
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, stopping from being to the goal line. So

1470
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: that was pretty much. It's a great play, all right, Quintin,

1471
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. We really appreciate the time.

1472
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: Good luck this Sunday, Okay, all right, appreciate you. All right.

1473
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: That was cornerback Quinton Dunbar. You were just hearing you guys.

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01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see a healthier version of this secondary

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: this weekend. That sounds really obvious, Like obviously Seahawks fans

1476
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: are happy to see a healthy secondary, but I feel

1477
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: like we haven't really seen the type of team that

1478
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: we were expecting, and it is hard not to lean

1479
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: into injuries is kind of an excuse there. Yeah, I agree.

1480
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: I mean, and you look at Quintin, I mean that

1481
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: had to have been you know the question you asked Tom.

1482
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that had to have been a huge stressful

1483
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: thing for him, you know, working out and just getting

1484
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: your mind right and everything. And then I believe he

1485
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: had a funeral that he had to go to and

1486
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: so it's been kind of tough for him. And then

1487
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: his knee has been kind of bothering him. But yeah,

1488
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: when those guys can play together, and again, I'll go

1489
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: back to what Pete keeps saying about this defense, that

1490
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: they just need to play together a little bit more.

1491
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 1: And you know, if you can get him out there

1492
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: consistently with Jamal Adams, you know, Quandri digs as yet

1493
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 1: to have like the big game. You know, he's had

1494
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: a couple of hits and things like that, but he

1495
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: hasn't really you know, had some of those games like

1496
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: we saw last year like la where he has two

1497
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: interceptions and then you know, and then Shaquille now all

1498
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's you know, got the concussion and

1499
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: the hamstring or ankle or whatever it is. So yeah,

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: it's it's been and I'm sure everybody else is going

1501
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: through this too, But I just feel like this defense,

1502
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: these guys need to work together. They do need to

1503
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: work together, and getting that chemistry is so important. We

1504
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: talk about that in different uh you know, different spaces,

1505
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: quarterback to pass catchers. We talk about that offensive line

1506
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: working together, and really the secondary is another huge group

1507
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: that needs to have trust, needs to build trust with

1508
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: one another to work well together and to be able

1509
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: to disteal that confidence to play at the highest level

1510
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: possible and to make it difficult on opposing offenses. And

1511
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: so to get this group together and to be able

1512
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: to established some of that, it will be really fun

1513
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: to watch switching to the other side of the ball,

1514
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: your offense with another great performance, chief among those by

1515
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: rookie running back DJ Dallas, who had two touchdowns, one

1516
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: of them his first ever. And I felt touchdown DJ

1517
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: joining us right now, DJ, how did that first touchdown feel?

1518
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: It was? It was a moment. It was a moment, man.

1519
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed that moment in my career being

1520
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: it being my first touchdown. But uh yeah, I can

1521
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: only accredit God first and foremost and the old Lion

1522
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: for for blocking it up, and Rush for delivering and

1523
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: Shoddy for calling to play. DJ were a little bit

1524
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: extra sore. That was that was a lot of raps

1525
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: for you. Man. Uh No, you know, you go, you're

1526
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: recovering and then you're back at it. So that's that's

1527
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: a part of the game. That's a part of the game. DJ.

1528
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: You've done an outstanding job from the moment that you

1529
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: got here. You know, I've heard a lot of good

1530
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: things about you in terms of your your understanding, um,

1531
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: your your willingness to work and and so what was

1532
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: it like for you to know that you were going

1533
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: to get a tremendous opportunity in terms of the workload

1534
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: and responsibility heading into this week in a big rivalry

1535
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: division game. Oh so it's what you prepare for. Um.

1536
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: Just like for me, I just try to come in

1537
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: every day and just just be the best product I

1538
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: can be and just be on the little details. Man.

1539
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: I know, I had like a a mess up back

1540
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 1: in back against the Cardinals and I felt like I

1541
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: cost this the win or whatever. But uh, just learning

1542
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: from that, taking taking this stuff, and it's kind of

1543
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: being it's like being forged by fire almost, you know,

1544
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: So just kind of taking taking the lessons learned and

1545
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: implying it and trying to be be the best that

1546
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: I can be every day. Do you put a lot

1547
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: of pressure on yourself to succeed? Are you one of

1548
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: those guys? Like what's your personality like with respect to

1549
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: h preparation and expecting things from yourself? Uh? Like I said,

1550
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: I don't like in practice, I take every rep as

1551
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: just it's a it's a game rep. Uh. I try

1552
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: to do do all the things necessary to be prepared

1553
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: to be the most prepared person on the field. Um

1554
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: comes Sunday, So I take being prepared pretty pretty serious. UM.

1555
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: I take messing up pretty serious. I don't like the

1556
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: mess up. I try to play the game as as

1557
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: perfect as possible with with with at least amount of

1558
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: mess ups as possible. DJ, you sound like a veteran man.

1559
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: Who are some of the guys that you look up

1560
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: to on this team that that have helped you become

1561
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: a pro Uh? Bobby Wagner Uh, He's been a big

1562
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: influence on me, just with our mini talks that we have,

1563
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: UM Russ Russ from day one has been he's been

1564
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: my big brother man. He's take taking me under his

1565
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: wing and and just kind of kind of groom me

1566
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: for for what his thought in his head of what

1567
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: my role is gonna be on his team. And I don't,

1568
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: like I told everybody before, I don't care if I'm

1569
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: the water boy, I'll do whatever, you know. So uh yeah,

1570
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: those those two guys, kJ Wright, Travis Travis, just me

1571
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: and Travis having that relationship, uh from Miami. You know

1572
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: that that's been a big blessing too. So yeah, those

1573
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: guys just just the name a few vets, especially the

1574
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: running back room. My running back room is deep and

1575
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: and with the vets that we have, Chris Carson, Carlos High. Uh,

1576
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: those those guys Nick Blore, even they they kind of

1577
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 1: give me a hard time a lot of times because

1578
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: they say I talked too much. But uh yeah, those

1579
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: those guys that have been have been real, real big

1580
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: impacts on my rookie season so far. DJ. It's it's

1581
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 1: all a tough that first rookie year as you're as

1582
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 1: you're going through it and getting all the vets. You know,

1583
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: sometimes they give you a hard time. But this is

1584
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: one of the unique organizations, you know, being there in

1585
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: that building. DJ, Yeah, I know that it's it's one

1586
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: of those unique environments in the league. And what was

1587
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: that like, for you, what were you expecting when you

1588
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: came in versus what ended up happening with all the

1589
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 1: guys that you just mentioned just really truly you know,

1590
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: wrapping their arms around you and welcoming you in. I

1591
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: was expecting, uh, I mean, don't get me wrong, the

1592
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: league it's like super cutthroat, but I was expecting, like

1593
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 1: the guys not to be like super friendly and and

1594
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: uh them to just kind of throw me to the wolves.

1595
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: And I was prepared for that, you know, That's what

1596
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: I had trained for in the all season and just

1597
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: kind of got my mind like prepared to just be

1598
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: thrown to the wolves. But once I got here, it

1599
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: was just like a more family atmosphere. Like and I've

1600
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: been talking to like some of my my close friends

1601
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 1: and my family members that played or play in the league,

1602
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: and they were telling me how different clubs were in

1603
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: all but here they just had they raved about it.

1604
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: I know one of my good friends, Justin Coleman, play

1605
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: here and he was just telling me how how the

1606
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 1: culture is different here, and I was going to enjoy

1607
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: enjoy playing here. So it beat my expectations for sure. DJ.

1608
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: That's really good to hear. We're glad that you found

1609
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: more of a familiar atmosphere than you were expecting. And

1610
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: good luck this Sunday. Okay, okay, thank you all right.

1611
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: He was expecting to be thrown to the wolves. I'm

1612
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: glad that he wasn't. I'm glad he wasn't. He'll have,

1613
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: obviously another chance to have a great game again against

1614
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: the Bills, assuming he's going to get quite a few

1615
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: more snaps here. This has been the Huddle with Tom Wastle,

1616
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. Thank you so

1617
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: much for joining us on seven ESPN Seattle,