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Speaker 1: How's it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 1: And on today's show, it's Roster reset time, the last
Speaker 1: time we're going to do this before the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three season. We're talking defense today with Daniel Ojafusi of
Speaker 1: the Miami Herald. Will also get his mini camp takeaways
Speaker 1: from this June's practices the spring program. Now a rap
Speaker 1: heading into the summer from the Baptist Health Studios inside
Speaker 1: the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft time.
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Speaker 1: I think this is the third edition this year of
Speaker 1: the roster reset, if I'm not mistaken, might be the
Speaker 1: fourth pre free agency, post free agency and post draft
Speaker 1: and now post mini camp. I think was the schedule
Speaker 1: I laid out. I just think it's important to get
Speaker 1: a look at the roster in terms of how you
Speaker 1: can approach the offseason, what you're looking forward to going
Speaker 1: into training camp, into the regular season, and all the above.
Speaker 1: So I think that's a good time to go ahead
Speaker 1: and do that now that we've had all the spring practices,
Speaker 1: and the next time we talk to you guys will
Speaker 1: be or not the next time I talk to you guys,
Speaker 1: but the next time we talk about Dolphins practice and
Speaker 1: Dolphins football, you know specifically in general, will be those
Speaker 1: training camp practices, I should say, with a fresh retake
Speaker 1: on updated information. We will have the training camp Preview
Speaker 1: series along with the summer NFL Preview series. Those are
Speaker 1: going to go together over the next month and a
Speaker 1: half or so, taking us right in the training camp.
Speaker 1: Before all that, let's go ahead and recap OTAs and
Speaker 1: get a look at this defensive roster in its entirety,
Speaker 1: with Daniel Oyafuzi of the Miami Herald and joining us
Speaker 1: today is my guest from the Miami Herald, Daniel Oyafusi. Daniel,
Speaker 1: I believe your second drive time appearance too few and
Speaker 1: far between. Man, We'll have to get you back on
Speaker 1: some more here, but I'm happy to have you on today.
Speaker 1: How you living, sir, How you enjoying your first day here?
Speaker 1: I guess of the off season, Oh man, thanks.
Speaker 3: For having me, and yeah, I mean it was a
Speaker 3: long season, long off season, so definitely excited to get
Speaker 3: some rest of relaxation for a couple of.
Speaker 1: Months, yourself, myself, the players, the coaches of VIC Fangio
Speaker 1: talking about going on vacation for the next couple of
Speaker 1: weeks here and as they should. Man, the grind from
Speaker 1: August all the way through hopefully into January, maybe even
Speaker 1: in February is a long one, So get that rest
Speaker 1: while you can right now, because it's going to be
Speaker 1: full here once we get to late July. And speaking
Speaker 1: of vic Fangio and that side of the football, you're
Speaker 1: kind of my one of my defensive consigli area, sir.
Speaker 1: I love I love talking about defensive structures and schemes
Speaker 1: and game plans and personnel when it comes to training
Speaker 1: camp and watching those practices together. So I wanted to
Speaker 1: go ahead and start here before we previewer. I guess,
Speaker 1: just take a look at the roster in general on
Speaker 1: that side of the football. Start with OTA takeaways because
Speaker 1: you and I taping again one day after OTAs wrapped.
Speaker 1: This is gonna air next week or you know when
Speaker 1: they hear the podcast will be today for you guys,
Speaker 1: but just your you're fresh off the presses. You said
Speaker 1: you just filed your final story for OTAs. What's your
Speaker 1: defensive takeaways from this mini camp?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that early on we were saying that
Speaker 2: Vic Vanger was.
Speaker 3: Certainly leaving his imprint as you know, really the pre
Speaker 3: eminent defensive mind of the NFL. Obviously, you know you're
Speaker 3: using a lot of the veterans, accomplished players into team
Speaker 3: drills and team activities. If you have a lot of
Speaker 3: young guys that have really stepped up, some some rising
Speaker 3: players who were really rising stars, and Jalen Phillips and
Speaker 3: Javon Holland who have really really had really strong offseason
Speaker 3: workout programs, you have some udfas like Mitchell and Goudi,
Speaker 3: Garrett Nelson who have stepped up, and it's really interesting
Speaker 3: overall just to hear about the philosophy, you know, from
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey. Obviously he's had a lot of experience in
Speaker 3: this scheme with this time with the Los Angeles rams
Speaker 3: and you really spoke to how this defense LEDs itself
Speaker 3: to versatility and how the versatility of not only him,
Speaker 3: but a lot of other players are going to allow
Speaker 3: the Dolphins to to do a lot of unique things.
Speaker 2: So you know, Banjio comes with this specific reputation.
Speaker 3: And maybe being a zone heavy guy, cover four, cover
Speaker 3: two heavy guy, but Ramsey kind of costs and saying, hey,
Speaker 3: we can do a little bit of everything because the
Speaker 3: guys that we have on the defense are just that good.
Speaker 1: That was one of all the hill sticking points, as
Speaker 1: well as the ability to be multiple and how you
Speaker 1: have to be able to attack offenses in that way
Speaker 1: because of how you know, it seems like McDaniel would
Speaker 1: be one of the top guys I would mention in
Speaker 1: this category is they know how to find match and
Speaker 1: how to exploit them, especially when you have the personnel
Speaker 1: that some of these teams do, especially in this damn conference. Man,
Speaker 1: like the Bengals, the Bills, the Chiefs, these teams that
Speaker 1: just have matchup problem after matchup problem. You kind of
Speaker 1: have to be able to dictate that now on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the football as well, And I think
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are in position to go ahead and do that,
Speaker 1: or at least they are in position to have the opportunity,
Speaker 1: I should say, to do that Before we get into
Speaker 1: the position by position specifics here, I kind of want
Speaker 1: to follow up with you there because you mentioned it,
Speaker 1: and I know you're again a big fan of selling
Speaker 1: these defensive schemes. When they first hired Vic Fangio and
Speaker 1: you knew there would be a bit of a schematic
Speaker 1: change here, How did you think the Dolphins current personnel
Speaker 1: fit with what he wants to do and what he
Speaker 1: might do going forward? Because this defense is pretty much
Speaker 1: the pre eminent system ran in the NFL, but Fanjos
Speaker 1: had a year off to cook up some new stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think of the personnel match with
Speaker 1: this coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the one thing about it is that on
Speaker 3: the surface, it was such a wholesale change, like a
Speaker 3: one to eighty from what we've gone accustom to. You know,
Speaker 3: over the past couple of years, you've seen them go
Speaker 3: man heavy, blitz heavy schemes, and like I said before,
Speaker 3: Vangiel has a reputation of being I don't want to
Speaker 3: say conservative, but prioritize, prioritizing you know, the secondary in
Speaker 3: terms of the coverage schemes and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But I thought early on, you know, like.
Speaker 3: The pieces were in place for to really you know,
Speaker 3: hit the ground running in year one, Like I said before,
Speaker 3: with Jalen Phillips, sproutle each old that duo. You know,
Speaker 3: Javon Holland in the back end. Obviously we've known him
Speaker 3: to be a lockdown man and man corner. But I
Speaker 3: thought that, you know, his ability to read coverage concepts
Speaker 3: and whatnot. I thought that it really this scheme was
Speaker 3: really going to lend itself to X having a really
Speaker 3: big season in twenty twenty three. And then obviously you
Speaker 3: add Jalen Ramsey, who, as I said before, has the
Speaker 3: familiarity and start in this uh this scheme no pun intended.
Speaker 3: You know, you add David Long and others. So again
Speaker 3: the pieces are in place for them to not only
Speaker 3: do what Evangio has been known for over the past
Speaker 3: few years, but to also again be versatile and to
Speaker 3: you know, switch up their game plan to face the
Speaker 3: various unique offenses across the NFL, and like you said, NBAFC,
Speaker 3: which is very, very loaded with offensive talent.
Speaker 1: It's the balance right now, is so I ou to whack,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, across how just the powerhouses in this conference.
Speaker 1: It almost seems unfair a little bit, but hey, that's
Speaker 1: that's the hand you Delton, go out and beat those
Speaker 1: teams and prove yourself anyway. So you know that's that's
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Xavier and Howard here in the defensive
Speaker 1: back portion. But I want to start. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you do it, Daniel. Like whenever I do NFL previews,
Speaker 1: I always go AFC East, north, southwest, that same rotation,
Speaker 1: and then NFC obviously, and then when it comes to
Speaker 1: the position groups, I always start defensive line linebackers and
Speaker 1: the defensive back, so it goes like front to back.
Speaker 1: I suppose that's where we're gonna start here, is with
Speaker 1: this defensive line. Just gonna read off the roster here
Speaker 1: for you real quick. Randy Charlton, Emmanuel Ogba, Zach Seeler,
Speaker 1: Anthony Montalvo, Christian Wilkins, Josiah Bronson, Jalen Twyman, and ray
Speaker 1: Kwon Davis. And when you go through that list, you
Speaker 1: have a decent mix of like guys that are at
Speaker 1: different stages of their career. Obviously for very accomplished pro
Speaker 1: so far at this stage of their career with ogbab Wilkins, Seeler,
Speaker 1: and Davis, and then some unproven guys, some guys that
Speaker 1: are either rookies or in their you know, second or
Speaker 1: third year trying to make a name for themselves here.
Speaker 1: I'm curious what about that group stands out to you
Speaker 1: just kind of your I guess bird's eye view of
Speaker 1: this Dolphins defensive front.
Speaker 3: Well, say, it was good to see Emanuel Agba out there. Obviously,
Speaker 3: you know, missing a good port person port excuse me,
Speaker 3: a portion of the season with the tristeps injury. He
Speaker 3: obviously said that he had been making clear, so it's
Speaker 3: good to see him get active and team drills and
Speaker 3: we saw him in on a couple of couple of
Speaker 3: pressures and you know, kind of doing a lot of
Speaker 3: the things that we've seen the passional two seasons. Where
Speaker 3: he led the team in sacks. Obviously Christian he's everywhere
Speaker 3: on the field. You hear him, you see him, he's
Speaker 3: raising twenty yards the field. He's his usual Christian Wilk himself,
Speaker 3: Raykwon Davis as well, you know, taking that next step
Speaker 3: adding more to his past orsus Arsenal.
Speaker 2: That was good to see.
Speaker 3: But again, you have some some young defensive linemen who
Speaker 3: you know, less throuded, but they you know, had some
Speaker 3: flashes as well. Desire Bronson, Jail and Twinement, both of
Speaker 3: them spent time on a practice squad last year. But
Speaker 3: I think that they showed some really good things in
Speaker 3: terms of not only the rushing the passer which you
Speaker 3: know I'm holding, you know, gap integrity and you know
Speaker 3: obviously it's no pads, but you know, looking like they
Speaker 3: have pretty good reps, pretty good run stuff in reps.
Speaker 3: So again, I mean, you see you look at that
Speaker 3: defensive line and you know the starting group is very
Speaker 3: very strong, but the depth there as well is looking
Speaker 3: like it could be something that's really uh, you know,
Speaker 3: a boom for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: That's a question I was going to ask you here
Speaker 1: next because you know you mentioned Bronson and Twinement like
Speaker 1: you and I sitting next to each other, like the
Speaker 1: ninety five make another players there, Yeah, she sure did.
Speaker 1: And I think it's it's that's the fun part about
Speaker 1: these practices this time of year to me is like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to go crazy about what
Speaker 1: Tua or you know, Tyreek Hill does this time of year,
Speaker 1: because I know what those guys are at the stage
Speaker 1: of their career. But as trying to find these guys
Speaker 1: that you don't know much about and seeing how many
Speaker 1: plays they can make and how consistently they can fl
Speaker 1: and like McDaniel says, again, give themselves the opportunity to
Speaker 1: come back into training camp and earn more reps, which
Speaker 1: then gives you a chance to earn playing time in
Speaker 1: the preseason and then of course into the regular season.
Speaker 1: It's a fun progression for me. Is it's so cool
Speaker 1: being on the team, you know, all all year long
Speaker 1: to see that progression play out and eventually get the
Speaker 1: end product in September. But I do want to start
Speaker 1: there because I have a couple of questions for you
Speaker 1: about this group in general. Is that John Jenkins role
Speaker 1: that you know. I think when you went into the
Speaker 1: offseason you thought they might either bring Jenkins back or
Speaker 1: find someone to kind of fulfill that. And it's not
Speaker 1: like a significant role in terms of the snap counts.
Speaker 1: He played what two three hundred snaps last year, But
Speaker 1: right now, Raykwon Davis is the only you know, three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pound plus guy that you can probably
Speaker 1: line up over the nose tackle and say, hey, you're
Speaker 1: the zero technique. You can play this role and go
Speaker 1: stack up some bodies in the front and help our
Speaker 1: linebackers stake clear on that back end. And you know,
Speaker 1: Wilkins and Seedler can play any damn position across the front,
Speaker 1: so I don't short change them in that regard, but
Speaker 1: I am curious what you think about who might fit
Speaker 1: that back up role to Rayquon Davis on the interior
Speaker 1: on this roster right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good question, and I know that
Speaker 3: in the media, that's that's the spot that you know
Speaker 3: a lot of people have kind of kind of earmarked,
Speaker 3: you know, the Dolphins addressing over the next few months,
Speaker 3: whether that's at some point in training camp before the
Speaker 3: season starts. You know, Brandon Peely has the body type
Speaker 3: they undrafted uh roogably from USC that they signed. He
Speaker 3: has kind of a body type to take on that role,
Speaker 3: but obviously it means to be.
Speaker 2: Seen who exactly would back up Rakwon.
Speaker 3: One thing that has been coming to mind as we've
Speaker 3: you know, progressed through off the workouts is just, you know,
Speaker 3: just the various defensive fronts that Vanjol will use, and
Speaker 3: and I do wonder, you know, obviously Rayqwan plays a
Speaker 3: big role in this defense in terms of taking on
Speaker 3: multiple defenders and opening up things for the linebackers of
Speaker 3: the second level, but I do wonder like if maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, there are some unique defensive fronts that Vanjol
Speaker 3: could use that you know, kind of a allow them
Speaker 3: to maybe skate by and not necessarily need like a prototypical,
Speaker 3: you know, zero taking type of guy. But you know,
Speaker 3: again there is a possibility, and that is kind of
Speaker 3: open that backup spot next to Ray Kwon.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you mentioning Brandon peelely because I blew by
Speaker 1: his name on the run down there and forgot to
Speaker 1: put him in the list there. So my apologies to
Speaker 1: Brandon Peeley and the Dolphins defensive line group there. He's
Speaker 1: in the list. He's on the groups in the roster.
Speaker 1: I did not mention him off the top there, and
Speaker 1: you kind of took me into my last question here
Speaker 1: about this group before we take our first break in
Speaker 1: this In this defensive line position, is those various fronts
Speaker 1: that you can run And we've known, you know, I've
Speaker 1: had you know, Sean Sayet was a great guest on
Speaker 1: the podcast while back breaking down the Vic Fangio scheme,
Speaker 1: and everyone I talked to talks about in the past
Speaker 1: he's ran lighter box fronts and had more you know,
Speaker 1: back seven players on the field to round out his
Speaker 1: personnel groupings. And you mentioned it there, and I keep
Speaker 1: thinking about Emmanuel Ogbas kind of one of one on
Speaker 1: the roster in terms of a guy that's really more
Speaker 1: of a true hand in the dirt defensive end, but
Speaker 1: also can condense inside you know, six foot four, two
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five pounds, give or take, and really
Speaker 1: one of those true even front, even front ends. And
Speaker 1: then you have guys like Wilkins and Seeler again like
Speaker 1: I mentioned, who've played primarily in odd front in their career.
Speaker 1: But we've also seen, you know, Wilkins played that even
Speaker 1: front look at back at Clemson, so I'm just I
Speaker 1: don't really know the question here exactly, Daniel, But I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this group and wondering, like maybe they just
Speaker 1: have eleven guys they want to put on the field
Speaker 1: at once, and you just kind of pick and choose
Speaker 1: your players because you do have so many guys here
Speaker 1: that can fulfill multiple roles. Maybe you don't have to
Speaker 1: look elsewhere for that, you know, like you mentioned that
Speaker 1: zero technique position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for all the versatility and talent we
Speaker 3: talked about in the second area. I mean, you look
Speaker 3: at Aga and you look at the defensive line, and.
Speaker 2: You can do a lot of really interesting things there.
Speaker 3: Agua, when we spoke to him a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: back early in the offseason workout program, he said himself,
Speaker 3: and he expects to play across the offensive line.
Speaker 2: So again, you can do hand in the dirt.
Speaker 3: You can you know, move a little outside to maybe
Speaker 3: seven technique, maybe even move into three technique. Like you
Speaker 3: can do a lot of things. Just gives that body
Speaker 3: type and that skill set. And again with him Christian
Speaker 3: Steeler Ray Kwon and then even like we're gonna get
Speaker 3: into the edge guys, the out our linebackers to like
Speaker 3: Radley Chubb, Jalen Phillips.
Speaker 2: I mean, those guys can move in sometimes as well.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's really like you might just kind
Speaker 3: of deploy whatever combination you want and then let them
Speaker 3: go to work.
Speaker 2: You know. The versatility is one thing we're gonna hear
Speaker 2: about that. A lot of versatility, versatility, versatility.
Speaker 3: The Dolphins can do a lot of things just because
Speaker 3: of the skill set of the guys they have in house.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: I think that that comment right there is what benefits
Speaker 1: the Dolphins maybe more than anything else, is the fact
Speaker 1: that we just don't really know what it might look like.
Speaker 1: And of course you'll get tape, you know, come Week
Speaker 1: one of what this defense looks like, but maybe it's
Speaker 1: it's completely different in Week two, and that could play
Speaker 1: the Dolphins advantage here early in the season, especially in
Speaker 1: a tough schedule to open the year. You know, Chargers, Patriots,
Speaker 1: you got Buffalo on there, and who I'm missing in
Speaker 1: Week three the Broncos in there. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: tough it's a tough road offensively as far as the
Speaker 1: opposite side of the field going up against the Dolphins
Speaker 1: team early on. So maybe that kind of you know,
Speaker 1: obscurity and not knowing what's going to happen, there is
Speaker 1: a benefit to the Dolphins. So you also mentioned the
Speaker 1: edge group and kind of linebackers in general. We'll hit
Speaker 1: that next or on the other side. Take our first
Speaker 1: break right here and come back with my guest from
Speaker 1: the Miami Herald, Daniel Ojafusi Drive Time podcast, your host
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation, picking it
Speaker 1: back up on the roster reset middle of the month
Speaker 1: of June edition here. This is the fourth time I've
Speaker 1: done this this season, Daniel. I think it's good to
Speaker 1: take a look at the roster at various points of
Speaker 1: the off season. Here and now we head into the
Speaker 1: actual off season where there's almost no football news going on.
Speaker 1: So we're going to keep you guys informed here talking
Speaker 1: about this Dolphins ross. We're talking about the NFL as
Speaker 1: we head, you know, into training camp, which you'll be
Speaker 1: here before you know it, so enjoy your vacations, enjoy
Speaker 1: your time off. But I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: linebacker group here. You mentioned it a little bit on
Speaker 1: the previous side, you know, the edge position with guys
Speaker 1: like the first two guys in the list here, Bradley
Speaker 1: Chubb and Jalen Phillips and what they can kind of
Speaker 1: offer you in terms of their versatility. You mentioned Emmanuel
Speaker 1: Ogba play in that three technique position at times, and
Speaker 1: he condesce in there some times last year and did
Speaker 1: some stuff where he's sett in the pick on pick
Speaker 1: stunts and just being multiple and versatile. Jalen Phillips does
Speaker 1: that too. You know, Bradley Chubb as at versaal as
Speaker 1: they come as well. So those are the top two
Speaker 1: guys here on the linebacker list in terms of the
Speaker 1: jersey numbers, number two, number fifteen. Then we go to
Speaker 1: Channing Tandall, Andrew, Ben Ginkle, Duke Riley, Malik, Creed, Mitchell, Agude,
Speaker 1: David Long Junior, Aubrey Miller, Cameron Good, Jerome Baker, Garrett Nelson,
Speaker 1: and Zeke Vanderberg. So I know it's kind of putting
Speaker 1: edge and off ball together here in that group, Daniel,
Speaker 1: But I'll ask you the same question. Ask on the
Speaker 1: defensive line, your bird's eye view of this group and
Speaker 1: how they operate in this defense.
Speaker 3: I would say that you know that pairing of Chubb
Speaker 3: and Jalen Phillips is going to be one to watch.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously teammatee the mid season trade for Chubb,
Speaker 3: and you know they spoke glowingly about his impact and
Speaker 3: what he did opening up stuff for others. And then
Speaker 3: you have Jalen Phillips, who Mikey Daniel said his practice
Speaker 3: at a level that he's never seen. So you know,
Speaker 3: you look at previous banjail stops, he has done some
Speaker 3: really really special stuff with his outside linebacker, edge defender,
Speaker 3: you past rushers, you know, whether it's Audum Smith or
Speaker 3: Khalils Mack or Von Miller. So you know, if you
Speaker 3: just look at his track record, you know you're your
Speaker 3: reason to be excited if you're a Miami Dolphins fan.
Speaker 3: And I think that you know, and what we saw
Speaker 3: especially from Jalen Phil really good. His usual stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: just that mixed of power and speed and that you
Speaker 3: know makes life terrible for offensive lineman. I will say,
Speaker 3: one of the ud f A edge guys who really
Speaker 3: sped out to me. And I'm sure you agree as
Speaker 3: Mitchell and Goudey, who is similar to Phillips and his
Speaker 3: his road to Miami, you know, starting at u c
Speaker 3: l A and then going to University of Miami and
Speaker 3: now he's in Miami Gardens. You know, he's following up
Speaker 3: similar career art right now, and I thought he's he
Speaker 3: was off to a great start.
Speaker 2: And office's in workouts, you know, Jalen said.
Speaker 3: That he's a really twitchy athletic guy and he saw
Speaker 3: that in the where he can kind of knife through,
Speaker 3: knife through into the backfield and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So we had a great size six and forty two.
Speaker 2: He really stood out to me as well.
Speaker 3: So that's another interesting group because you have the the
Speaker 3: past rushing duo of Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb. J
Speaker 3: also have Andrew bank Geko. We have the ability ability
Speaker 3: to play multiple spots. You have Malik Reid who spent
Speaker 3: time in Denver as well, you know, and Mitchell Guide
Speaker 3: is kind of one of those guys making his claim
Speaker 3: to you know, you know, be part of that that
Speaker 3: position group.
Speaker 1: It's tough to sort this group because I look at
Speaker 1: it as one of the best, you know, edge groups
Speaker 1: in the entire national football Like I think the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are really well set there and at the wide receiver position,
Speaker 1: two spots that are pretty important today's NFL. And man,
Speaker 1: I just I'm wondering how the snap counts are going
Speaker 1: to play out, and that's obviously for the coaches to
Speaker 1: decide come training camp. But you mentioned they're Chubb and Phillips.
Speaker 1: I mean Phillips last year. Let's go ahead and start
Speaker 1: with him, because he's a guy that you know, had
Speaker 1: good sack production, had good pressure numbers, had good run
Speaker 1: defense numbers. But I felt like there was so much
Speaker 1: more for him to get there, almost in the way
Speaker 1: that I kind of talked about Jalen Wattles rookie season
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football, saying like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he caught a hunter balls, but I'm telling you there
Speaker 1: was so much more yards for him to get just
Speaker 1: based upon where he was open in the progression of
Speaker 1: the offense and looked like he was, you know, creating
Speaker 1: separation consistently, not just in the short area, but down
Speaker 1: the field. I'm watching Jalen Phillips tape here, thinking like,
Speaker 1: he's got potential for a lot more sack production, and
Speaker 1: he had some taking off the board last year as well,
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm hopeful to see him kind of take
Speaker 1: that jump in that category because typically pressures and QB
Speaker 1: hits convert to sacks at a higher rate than he
Speaker 1: had the last couple of years. So maybe this year
Speaker 1: can kind of you know, even out a little bit
Speaker 1: more in that regard. But you kind of see him
Speaker 1: as a potential breakout player here of this defense because
Speaker 1: he's got all the tools in the bag.
Speaker 2: Man. No, almost definitely.
Speaker 3: You know, the first season, his first season was that
Speaker 3: was a great rookie year. And you know, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously in his second year, maybe not having the sack totals,
Speaker 3: like the raw stats that.
Speaker 2: Maybe didn't show how much of an impact he made.
Speaker 3: You know, he spoke about after his looking see them,
Speaker 3: wanting to be more of every down player, better against
Speaker 3: the run, you know, really earning the right to you know,
Speaker 3: to play third down, as you hear a lot of
Speaker 3: coaches and players talk about.
Speaker 2: And I think he took those shrives.
Speaker 3: So the next next step is like being a guy
Speaker 3: who can is dominant and is making an impact every play.
Speaker 3: And again I'll caution and say that's not just like
Speaker 3: racking up doubles sacks or leading the team in sacks.
Speaker 3: It's about the impact. It's about Pressures are really important
Speaker 3: as well. Maybe they don't result in a sack, disrupting
Speaker 3: the timing of the offense being somebody that the offense
Speaker 3: has to devote, you know, multiple blockers and attention to
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 2: It's really important.
Speaker 3: Freeing up your teammates to get pressures in sacks all
Speaker 3: that that's really important. And I think that we saw
Speaker 3: Jalen take those steps in year two Phillips in year two.
Speaker 3: The year three is about really putting it all together
Speaker 3: and like being that that constant every down player at
Speaker 3: the defense are shooting that the offense has to come for.
Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned Mitchell a good and his you know,
Speaker 1: his route following Phillips, and I'm looking at his potential
Speaker 1: route to playing time this year, and like I said,
Speaker 1: it's a deep group, so finding snaps is going to
Speaker 1: be difficult for anybody in that group, just because you
Speaker 1: have so many guys that you know you're gonna count
Speaker 1: on for big snap totals this year and hopefully big production.
Speaker 1: But you know, looking you mentioned Andrew van Ginkle was
Speaker 1: a guy that I think has had such a good,
Speaker 1: just solid, seady career so far. Going into your number twenty,
Speaker 1: you're number five for him as a Miami Dolphin. Here,
Speaker 1: Malik reed to a guy that I don't think has
Speaker 1: gotten enough publicity here as a guy that can make
Speaker 1: an impact on this defense. Because you know, we saw
Speaker 1: in last year we saw guys that played kind of
Speaker 1: a part time role have a big impact. I think
Speaker 1: Malik Reed has an opportunity to be that guy because
Speaker 1: this is a dude that was undrafted to Vic Fangio's
Speaker 1: Broncos defenses back in you know his time there, and
Speaker 1: all he did was lead the team in sacks his
Speaker 1: first two years combined there. So do you think that
Speaker 1: Malik reads a guy that maybe we're sleeping on too much? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean so, so you know, Jalen and Browley aren't
Speaker 3: going to play every single day. They're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 3: need to get spelled every once in a while. And
Speaker 3: I think that especially with Malik having somebody who has
Speaker 3: the familiarity in this game.
Speaker 2: My same as a guy that can do a little
Speaker 2: bit of everything.
Speaker 3: You know that maybe he's not dominant in one specific role,
Speaker 3: but you can do a little bit of everything. Set
Speaker 3: the edge, he can rush the passers, he can drop
Speaker 3: back and cover it into into you know those zone
Speaker 3: drops and whatnot. So yeah, I mean, and again, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe they play on the field at the same time,
Speaker 3: because you know, Jalen and Bradley can move in a
Speaker 3: little bit, and then Molak and Andrew and Gingkle can
Speaker 3: play you know, those those.
Speaker 2: True edge spots. So again, a lot of different combinations,
Speaker 2: like you can.
Speaker 3: You can really just throw eleven guys out there and
Speaker 3: kind of make it work, uh, you know, obviously with
Speaker 3: some tinkering here and there. But yeah, I think that
Speaker 3: Molie Read and Andrew Bangingkle will play big roles in
Speaker 3: this offense. And you know, the rotation and stepping in
Speaker 3: when those guys need to breather.
Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me like a basketball rotation where
Speaker 1: you're like, obviously, you can't have you know, Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: on the floor for forty eight minutes every night and
Speaker 1: you have to find, you know, minutes elsewhere for that position.
Speaker 1: I look at the Dolphins eleven man combinations and think
Speaker 1: like they've got you know, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen up to
Speaker 1: twelve guys. Maybe they feel like they can feel comfortable
Speaker 1: rolling out there in different sets and different looks, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's a really deep defense right now. And
Speaker 1: I think that's true at our next position group here
Speaker 1: talking about more of the linebackers, but the guys that
Speaker 1: typically play off the football, and we've seen obviously Jerome
Speaker 1: Baker's been here for a long time doing you know,
Speaker 1: doing good stuff for a long time as a member
Speaker 1: of the Miami Dolphins. Duke Riley's a guy that's great
Speaker 1: on special teams, really good and sub packages and played
Speaker 1: some some starting roles last year for you as well.
Speaker 1: David Long, though, is the guy that I want to
Speaker 1: start with here because he's he's kind of the big
Speaker 1: acquisition here in terms of the front seven that Dolphins
Speaker 1: defense made this offseason, and I thought it was such
Speaker 1: a such a key acquisition as far as a guy
Speaker 1: that plays with such good instincts, can beat blocks and
Speaker 1: really give you that guy that can scrape off of
Speaker 1: those you know, your great defensive linemen that stack up
Speaker 1: so well with Christian and Zach and Rakwan Davis and
Speaker 1: just creating space for him to you know, react and
Speaker 1: flow to the football and make big plays. So I'm
Speaker 1: curious how you think David Long fits into this defense
Speaker 1: and and how big of an acquisition that was for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins this offseason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the David Long signing kind of
Speaker 3: was like put on the back burner a little bit
Speaker 3: just because everyone was so focused on the Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 3: trade and what that was gonna be for the defense,
Speaker 3: and obviously that's gonna have, you know, massive have a massive.
Speaker 2: Impact on the defense.
Speaker 3: But David Long was you know, quietly, he's quietly been
Speaker 3: to one of the you know, most consistent linebackers you
Speaker 3: know in the NFL the past couple of years. Obviously
Speaker 3: maybe some and some in and out of the lineup
Speaker 3: with some injury stuff, and you know, he was limited
Speaker 3: with what McDaniel said was kind of a minor tweak.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he is a guy who he can do
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 3: I mean, he can you know, you know, he's five eleven,
Speaker 3: but he doesn't play like he's five eleven. He plays
Speaker 3: like he's kind of a six or four kind of
Speaker 3: throw but throwback guy in terms of like you said, scraping,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, sliding past offensive lineman and you know,
Speaker 3: pursuing the ball pass coverage. He has the athleticism to
Speaker 3: again execute those zone drops and whatnot, and then he
Speaker 3: has the speed to split. So I think that with
Speaker 3: him with Jeron Baker, we have a a lot of
Speaker 3: speed on you know, that second level of the defense
Speaker 3: and again with those with those lighter boxes that Dan
Speaker 3: jel is known to use. Guy you need guys. And
Speaker 3: on the second level at inside linebacker, who going to
Speaker 3: fly to the ball? That's gonna be really interesting linebacker
Speaker 3: duo to watch for as we get in training camp
Speaker 3: and in the regular season.
Speaker 1: It goes back to the matchup idea we discussed in
Speaker 1: the first segment with you know, the offense being able
Speaker 1: to dictate the terms. These two guys are going to
Speaker 1: help you really, I think matchup on backs and tight
Speaker 1: ends and coverage because they've both have done at a
Speaker 1: high level so far at this stage of their career.
Speaker 1: And I feel like Daniel I kind of committed a
Speaker 1: radio or podcasting sin one on one here by not
Speaker 1: playing the hits first. You've mentioned it a few times,
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and this defensive backfield. We're gonna get to
Speaker 1: that next and the final segment here of this edition
Speaker 1: of the Draft Time Podcast Defensive Roster Reset. My guest
Speaker 1: is ay Daniel Oya Fussi on the Draft Time Podcast
Speaker 1: brought to you by Auto Nation. Back here for a
Speaker 1: third segment with my guest today from the Miami Hero,
Speaker 1: Daniel Ojafusi taking in all these Dolphins practices, about to
Speaker 1: hit vacation here in just a couple of hours. I
Speaker 1: think Daniel is your last assignment here for OTA coverage,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna end it here talking about the defensive
Speaker 1: back group. And again, it's kind of the same story
Speaker 1: across this entire defense here, where you have guys that
Speaker 1: can play multiple roles inside, outside, safety, corner like it
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter for a lot of these guys. Eyes
Speaker 1: in the quarterback taking the football away. Let's go down
Speaker 1: the roster here real quick. Cater Kohu, Jalen Ramsey, Trull Williams,
Speaker 1: a guy that you know we talked about a lot
Speaker 1: last camp who got that unfortunate injury. Returning back from
Speaker 1: that injury, Javon Holland, Noah Igbinoghany, Justin Bethel, Toshaun Elliott,
Speaker 1: Elijah Campbell, cam Smith, Xavi and Howard Keyon Crossing. Brandon
Speaker 1: Jones also coming back off the injury, Roan McKinley, the Third,
Speaker 1: Tino Ellis, Bennett Williams, Kedrin Smith, Ethan Bonner, Nick Needham
Speaker 1: also coming back off injury and Bryce Thompson. So, man,
Speaker 1: just I'm laughing as I read that list, because what
Speaker 1: a roster of names, man, Like, you have so many
Speaker 1: guys that I think would play a lot of snaps
Speaker 1: on a lot of different teams across the National Football League.
Speaker 1: What's your kind of bird's eye view of this defensive
Speaker 1: back group, because man, I'm looking at it. It looks
Speaker 1: good up top, it looks deep, it looks takeaway friendly,
Speaker 1: all the above.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my has been in trying to figure out where
Speaker 3: to start with the secondary group.
Speaker 2: I really really like it.
Speaker 3: I'll start with the cornerbacks, where you know, a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, I just was kind of doing the
Speaker 3: roster breackdown by position, and you know, if you look
Speaker 3: back to kind of the state of the cornerback room
Speaker 3: and the myriad injuries that they had last season, you
Speaker 3: have to be really happy with the way it is
Speaker 3: right now, because I mean, truthfully, you have you have
Speaker 3: several I mean truthfully, you have too many, almost like
Speaker 3: too many.
Speaker 2: They are not enough roster spots for the talent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I think that you have obviously the two headlining guys,
Speaker 3: Xavien Howard and Jalen Ramsey. We know about them. They're
Speaker 3: they're the bets in the business at what they do.
Speaker 3: And then you have kind of a lot of intrigue
Speaker 3: with the third spot because you have Kid Kohu who
Speaker 3: was really a.
Speaker 2: Revelation as an undrafted rookie.
Speaker 3: You have second round pick Cam Smith, who has you know,
Speaker 3: all the talent to be an impact guy or you know,
Speaker 3: in due time. And then after that, you know, you
Speaker 3: do have some kind of questions about, you know, who's
Speaker 3: kind of gonna fill out the bottom end of the
Speaker 3: overall rotation. Like we said before, Nick Needham has played
Speaker 3: a big role in this defense of a versatile role
Speaker 3: against versatility being the keyword.
Speaker 2: Is not only an outside guy corner, but a nickelback
Speaker 2: and even at Tom you know, playing a little bit
Speaker 2: of safety.
Speaker 3: You mentioned Sure Williams, who was looking really really good
Speaker 3: this time last year and then unfortunately had his knee
Speaker 3: injury and a preseason opener no egg Monogay who you know,
Speaker 3: I know, you know, you know, Commany's you know, taken
Speaker 3: a while to come along in you know, the first
Speaker 3: couple of years. But I thought that he looked solid
Speaker 3: and Vic Vangel spoke about how he thinks that this
Speaker 3: scheme will be good for him. And then you have
Speaker 3: you have even some veteran guys are like, you know,
Speaker 3: some real elder statesman so to speak, you know, and
Speaker 3: Justin Bethel, who has you know, kind of been a
Speaker 3: special team sace over his career.
Speaker 2: But I just wrote about him. I thought that he
Speaker 2: had a really really.
Speaker 3: Strong ot a OTAs and manatory mini camp and it
Speaker 3: was kind of reminiscent of last year when he was
Speaker 3: pressed in their duties, just volding his own, yeah, against
Speaker 3: the receivers. Yeah, just volding his own against the receivers
Speaker 3: in the offense. So you know, when I remember when
Speaker 3: Chris Breer spoke about the decision of Pitt camp Smith
Speaker 3: and it was kind of lead with a luxury pick
Speaker 3: because they had all that talent and depth that cornerback,
Speaker 3: and you know, was very very honest about you know,
Speaker 3: we saw how the depth and the cupboard kind of
Speaker 3: became very very very quickly. So we you know, you
Speaker 3: can never have too many cornerbacks, So I know, I
Speaker 3: just said that it's almost like the Dolf with that
Speaker 3: too many cornerbacks, but they don't have too many cornerbacks.
Speaker 3: But it's a. It's a very talented group, and you know,
Speaker 3: the various kind of battles to you know, for playing
Speaker 3: time in roster spots on this one, that's going to
Speaker 3: be very very interesting because frankly, truthfully, they probably don't
Speaker 3: have enough spots for all the guys who are roster.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think that the Chris career comment goes a
Speaker 1: long way because it's not just about building for you know,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but also into the future. And that's
Speaker 1: where you kind of look at you know, ex and
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, I think are still you still expect high
Speaker 1: and production out of those guys, but you have to
Speaker 1: be realistic that they are, you know, approaching you know,
Speaker 1: their age thirty seasons coming up here in a year
Speaker 1: or two for both those guys, and so to have
Speaker 1: the foresight with Okay, we know we have cater Cooho
Speaker 1: who's been really good for his rookie season, to go
Speaker 1: get a guy like Cam Smith if he hits all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got two really good young players
Speaker 1: on those rookie contracts. You know you mentioned no Egnogny
Speaker 1: if he can kind of you know, get his footing
Speaker 1: in this system, you just keep going down the list here,
Speaker 1: I mean Nick Needum coming back from the injury. It's
Speaker 1: it's a roster full of guys that have proven, you know,
Speaker 1: NFL careers at this stage. And I love the point
Speaker 1: about you know, it seemed like in years past and
Speaker 1: different spots of the roster as well, where it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're competing with guys that we don't really know about,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out who's going to carve
Speaker 1: out roles as you're two, three and four. But like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, now, it's like trying to carve out the
Speaker 1: role for your seven, eight nine guys, Like you're so
Speaker 1: deep that you're just trying to find out who's going
Speaker 1: to be the insurance policies behind these top bench starters here.
Speaker 1: And I think your comment there about the cornerback position
Speaker 1: and with Jalen Ramsey, which we haven't got a chance
Speaker 1: to see much of how he'll be deployed so far,
Speaker 1: and we wouldn't talk about it anyway in the podcast
Speaker 1: because that's not in the reporting rules here, but I
Speaker 1: think that he is such an intriguing, you know, chess
Speaker 1: piece in this defense and Daniel, I had Jordan Rodrieg
Speaker 1: on the podcast and we acquired Jalen Ramsey and she
Speaker 1: was talking about how the Rams kind of utilized him
Speaker 1: as a guy that forced the offense to choose matchups
Speaker 1: going into him and allowed the defense to be the
Speaker 1: one that dictates the terms. And I look at this group, like,
Speaker 1: you know, X is such a good perimeter cornerback cater
Speaker 1: co who can play both inside outside, same story for
Speaker 1: Nick Needham. You know Cam Smith, I think you feel
Speaker 1: good about his ability both inside outside and what he
Speaker 1: did in college. If he can make that translation quickly
Speaker 1: here as a pro, it almost he's up Ramsey to
Speaker 1: kind of be the guy that that does that the plays,
Speaker 1: you know, press off the ball, that star position, cover
Speaker 1: a safety or rather i'm sorry, cover a tight end,
Speaker 1: cover a running back. Like I think he might be
Speaker 1: your kind of matchup eraser on that defensive end if
Speaker 1: if everything goes right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of the more intriguing things that that Jalen did
Speaker 3: say when he spoke to a couple of days ago
Speaker 3: is that the way that Big Vangel sets up this
Speaker 3: defense as for certain players to be featured and to
Speaker 3: showcase that versatility, and he's you know the prime example
Speaker 3: of that, Like you said, you know, he spent his
Speaker 3: first couple of years with the Jacksonville Jaguars where he
Speaker 3: was primarily and you know, outside lockdown corner. And then
Speaker 3: you know, as teams, you know, saw how good he was,
Speaker 3: they stopped throwing to him.
Speaker 2: So what do the Rams do?
Speaker 3: They moved to the star spot where he can kind
Speaker 3: of be more active and run defense. And again, you
Speaker 3: know a lot of the better receivers in the NFL
Speaker 3: are playing that slot position, you know, like you know, Jailesuado, Tyreee,
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, jamar Cha. These guys are really lining up
Speaker 3: a lot and Deonte Adams, these guys are lining up
Speaker 3: in the flots.
Speaker 2: So you know, what do you do?
Speaker 3: You move your best cornerback inside so that that versatility
Speaker 3: and that kind of quote unquote chess piece allows you to,
Speaker 3: you know, build your entire defense around his skill sets.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be interesting to see what the Dolphins
Speaker 3: have in store for him. Jalen Ramsey, you know, he
Speaker 3: said it a lot. He's like, I'm not a cornerback,
Speaker 3: I'm a defensive back. And yeah, you know, he probably
Speaker 3: thinks he can play, you know, quarterback. If you know
Speaker 3: he's called upon to do that. So it's his versatility again,
Speaker 3: that key word, that buzzword, is going to do wonders
Speaker 3: for this defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, he if
Speaker 1: he wanted to play some buck line back on those
Speaker 1: sub packages where you kind of have that unique you know,
Speaker 1: like like I mentioned, tight end running back coverage type
Speaker 1: of responsibility. I just wouldn't put it pas him to
Speaker 1: be able to do whatever you ask him to do
Speaker 1: because he's that kind of player. And speaking of that
Speaker 1: kind of player, I think there's another one of those
Speaker 1: guys on the back end here in the safety group.
Speaker 1: And you look at the balance of this roster, it's
Speaker 1: it does seem to be like there are more corners
Speaker 1: than safeties, and that's kind of where I can think
Speaker 1: you get the idea of just versatility and matchup specific
Speaker 1: But this safety group led by a guy that everyone's
Speaker 1: super high on right now, Javon Holland, including Vic Fangio,
Speaker 1: who said there's nothing I don't like about the guy.
Speaker 1: I think that bodes pretty well for him. And we've
Speaker 1: seen what Vic Fangio has done with you know, star
Speaker 1: safeties in the past. Going back to his time with Denver,
Speaker 1: San Francisco and Chicago as well, just kind of getting
Speaker 1: production from that group in general. But then that kind
Speaker 1: of I think it's where you kind of get some interesting,
Speaker 1: you know, conversation pieces with Brandon Jones, who we know
Speaker 1: is a really good player, but coming back off the
Speaker 1: injury to Sean Elliott's a guy. That man. He plays
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour at all times, and I
Speaker 1: thought he was impressive out here at OTAs. And then
Speaker 1: from there you kind of look at who Mike carve
Speaker 1: out a role from between Veron McKinley, a couple of
Speaker 1: rookies and the guy like Bennett Williams out there curious
Speaker 1: what you think about this group, and from Javon Holland
Speaker 1: up top as a guy that you know is going
Speaker 1: to play a lot to the rest of the group,
Speaker 1: and how it kind of rounds out the depth was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a common thing.
Speaker 3: We we were saying, like, oh, Vick of angel as
Speaker 3: a track record of disposition in that position.
Speaker 2: It's like it's the same for safety.
Speaker 3: It's like he just have an over he just has
Speaker 3: an overall track record like being good for all players
Speaker 3: and I'm just good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, safety is one of those positions.
Speaker 3: Like you said, justin Simmons, it was an All Pro
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl player under Vic vangel and I see that
Speaker 3: as kind of like a template for what Jamon Holland
Speaker 3: could do in this defense. You know, not just playing
Speaker 3: you know, kind of a center field type of safety role,
Speaker 3: but going into those you know, split looks, being close
Speaker 3: to the line of screammage, maybe more blitzing, taking on
Speaker 3: tight ends and coverage and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So the again, the skill set allows itself to do
Speaker 2: a lot of things.
Speaker 3: You know, the spot, the safety spot next to him
Speaker 3: is interesting because you know, the first kind of inclination
Speaker 3: when they signed Deshaun Elliott was oh, you know, competition
Speaker 3: for that spot. But you know they they there may be,
Speaker 3: but I would say, I mean, I think that the
Speaker 3: skill set allows them to play with each other, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, be on the field at the same time.
Speaker 3: You know, I know Deshaun from my time covering the Ravens,
Speaker 3: you know, a couple of years back, and you know
Speaker 3: he he you know, did a lot of multiple things.
Speaker 3: You know, he not on he did the free safety
Speaker 3: center field role, but he was you know, very effective
Speaker 3: in there the line of scrimmage, especially blitzing in and
Speaker 3: right and run run defense. You know, I think there's
Speaker 3: a kind of like a viral clip of him just
Speaker 3: like taking Derrick Henry head on and he like held
Speaker 3: his own and he won, he won the battle there.
Speaker 3: So he yeah, he's a he's a heavy hitter. Brandon
Speaker 3: Jones is obviously one of the best blitzing safeties in
Speaker 3: the NFL. So again, you know, there's gonna be great competition,
Speaker 3: and you know, like Mike McDaniels said, a lot, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of positive competition. It's like
Speaker 3: a competitive combinerie, like everyone pushing each other to get better.
Speaker 3: But again, I mean you could see maybe some sub packages.
Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of a guess you could maybe
Speaker 3: see that where you have you know, maybe Jamon and
Speaker 3: Deshaun dropping into you know, split looks or whatever. But
Speaker 3: you also have a guy who can you know, in
Speaker 3: Brandon Jones, who can play close to the line of
Speaker 3: scrimmage and do a lot of different things. So again,
Speaker 3: this is all part of it, you know, I asked Vick,
Speaker 3: you know, like, are you kind of are you spending
Speaker 3: this va care? Are you spending this time off you know,
Speaker 3: kind of going back to the drawing board and advising stuff,
Speaker 3: and he's like, now I'm on vacation.
Speaker 2: But I think I do. I do think that, you know,
Speaker 2: a couple of times you might bring up the dry erase.
Speaker 3: Board and kind of start Johns some things down because
Speaker 3: there's just so many different things you can do.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy that his year away, he
Speaker 1: couldn't get away from it for more than you know.
Speaker 1: Every day he was talking about watching film and cooking
Speaker 1: up some new coverages. So I think that that's kind
Speaker 1: of how you make it in this business, man, just
Speaker 1: because you're thinking about it all the time. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure coaches is doing the same thing. Although that rests
Speaker 1: and relaxation certainly play a big part and making sure
Speaker 1: you're refreshing ready to go for a training camp. But Daniel,
Speaker 1: you said, all man, that big Nickel package, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty prominent one in the NFL these days.
Speaker 1: But a those three guys I think really round out
Speaker 1: a good trio of safeties with erstattle skill sets and
Speaker 1: compliment each other very well. Though. But man, you covered
Speaker 1: it all in depth here. We got about thirty some
Speaker 1: minutes around the podcast. Why don't you go ahead and
Speaker 1: close up here by telling us where people can find
Speaker 1: your work, where they can find you on social and
Speaker 1: what you're working on here the next coming weeks.
Speaker 2: No, most definitely, so you can find me on social media.
Speaker 3: Usually put most of my Dolphin's updates on Twitter at
Speaker 3: Daniel o yaf we see last name o ye at
Speaker 3: USI and then obviously you can read all my work
Speaker 3: at my mirror, at my mayor at newspaper.
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good man, thanks a lot, Dan, I
Speaker 1: appreciate your time today.
Speaker 2: Man aainy time man talk to later.
Speaker 1: And there he goes, it is possible I pulled an
Speaker 1: old man move there and didn't have my zoom setting
Speaker 1: set to my microphone plug in, So I apologize. If
Speaker 1: that audio was rough, there's just no way to recover that.
Speaker 1: So if it sounded bad, I do apologize. I hope
Speaker 1: it was okay and good enough for you guys, Digest,
Speaker 1: because I thought the content from Daniel was really, really good.
Speaker 1: All right, that's my time. We're gonna come back on Thursday,
Speaker 1: and here from Marcel Louis Jalk about this Dolphins offense.
Speaker 1: Do the exact same thing with him, fun conversation with
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Speaker 1: which makes it, you know, a podcast fun. I've always
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Speaker 3: Fins up.
Speaker 1: Carolyn Cameron, Daddy, Let's go home.