WEBVTT - Drive Time: Post OTA Roster Reset, Defense with Daniel Oyefusi 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.720 You are listening to the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.280 This is Drive Time with Travis Wingfield. Back to throw 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.560 to a looking clips about. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:16.480 A wide Dolphin touchdown turn Rick Quel uncrelievable. It's just 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.240 blue fire for a second time. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.840 Don't know where he was going right away. I want 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.080 to hit that man. I'm wanna help you. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.239 Someone will keep on his man away Wattle Wadle to 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.120 a shotgun, back to throw, looking at them up Myers touchdown. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:32.479 It's Waddle his. 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:34.839 Sixth touchdown, Parados the King. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.040 Drive Time with Travis Wingfield begins. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.479 Now let me check your pulse if you're not for 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:44.160 what is up? 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.839 Dolphins? And welcome to the Drive Time podcast, part of 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.839 the Miami Dolphins podcast Network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.760 How's it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.080 And on today's show, it's Roster reset time, the last 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.680 time we're going to do this before the twenty twenty 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.240 three season. We're talking defense today with Daniel Ojafusi of 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.280 the Miami Herald. Will also get his mini camp takeaways 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.920 from this June's practices the spring program. Now a rap 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.880 heading into the summer from the Baptist Health Studios inside 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.319 the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft time. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:19.199 Party, Elly CAF. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.920 I think this is the third edition this year of 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.800 the roster reset, if I'm not mistaken, might be the 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.640 fourth pre free agency, post free agency and post draft 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.200 and now post mini camp. I think was the schedule 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.240 I laid out. I just think it's important to get 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.520 a look at the roster in terms of how you 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.840 can approach the offseason, what you're looking forward to going 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.800 into training camp, into the regular season, and all the above. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.039 So I think that's a good time to go ahead 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.039 and do that now that we've had all the spring practices, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:48.840 and the next time we talk to you guys will 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.200 be or not the next time I talk to you guys, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:51.840 but the next time we talk about Dolphins practice and 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.240 Dolphins football, you know specifically in general, will be those 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.440 training camp practices, I should say, with a fresh retake 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.200 on updated information. We will have the training camp Preview 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.200 series along with the summer NFL Preview series. Those are 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.400 going to go together over the next month and a 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.720 half or so, taking us right in the training camp. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.280 Before all that, let's go ahead and recap OTAs and 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.960 get a look at this defensive roster in its entirety, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.280 with Daniel Oyafuzi of the Miami Herald and joining us 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:22.400 today is my guest from the Miami Herald, Daniel Oyafusi. Daniel, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.640 I believe your second drive time appearance too few and 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.600 far between. Man, We'll have to get you back on 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.320 some more here, but I'm happy to have you on today. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.000 How you living, sir, How you enjoying your first day here? 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.600 I guess of the off season, Oh man, thanks. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.280 For having me, and yeah, I mean it was a 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.600 long season, long off season, so definitely excited to get 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.280 some rest of relaxation for a couple of. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.840 Months, yourself, myself, the players, the coaches of VIC Fangio 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.679 talking about going on vacation for the next couple of 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.120 weeks here and as they should. Man, the grind from 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.440 August all the way through hopefully into January, maybe even 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.160 in February is a long one, So get that rest 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.680 while you can right now, because it's going to be 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.200 full here once we get to late July. And speaking 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.520 of vic Fangio and that side of the football, you're 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.400 kind of my one of my defensive consigli area, sir. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.280 I love I love talking about defensive structures and schemes 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.160 and game plans and personnel when it comes to training 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.400 camp and watching those practices together. So I wanted to 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.040 go ahead and start here before we previewer. I guess, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.880 just take a look at the roster in general on 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.000 that side of the football. Start with OTA takeaways because 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.680 you and I taping again one day after OTAs wrapped. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.720 This is gonna air next week or you know when 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.600 they hear the podcast will be today for you guys, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.560 but just your you're fresh off the presses. You said 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.720 you just filed your final story for OTAs. What's your 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.480 defensive takeaways from this mini camp? 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.400 Well, I think that early on we were saying that 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:42.320 Vic Vanger was. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.720 Certainly leaving his imprint as you know, really the pre 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.520 eminent defensive mind of the NFL. Obviously, you know you're 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.680 using a lot of the veterans, accomplished players into team 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.400 drills and team activities. If you have a lot of 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.760 young guys that have really stepped up, some some rising 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.280 players who were really rising stars, and Jalen Phillips and 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.680 Javon Holland who have really really had really strong offseason 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.800 workout programs, you have some udfas like Mitchell and Goudi, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.320 Garrett Nelson who have stepped up, and it's really interesting 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.160 overall just to hear about the philosophy, you know, from 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.240 Jalen Ramsey. Obviously he's had a lot of experience in 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.839 this scheme with this time with the Los Angeles rams 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.040 and you really spoke to how this defense LEDs itself 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.240 to versatility and how the versatility of not only him, 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.400 but a lot of other players are going to allow 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.359 the Dolphins to to do a lot of unique things. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.359 So you know, Banjio comes with this specific reputation. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.480 And maybe being a zone heavy guy, cover four, cover 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:43.200 two heavy guy, but Ramsey kind of costs and saying, hey, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:44.640 we can do a little bit of everything because the 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.360 guys that we have on the defense are just that good. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.600 That was one of all the hill sticking points, as 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.640 well as the ability to be multiple and how you 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.640 have to be able to attack offenses in that way 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.760 because of how you know, it seems like McDaniel would 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.039 be one of the top guys I would mention in 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.320 this category is they know how to find match and 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.440 how to exploit them, especially when you have the personnel 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.279 that some of these teams do, especially in this damn conference. Man, 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.840 like the Bengals, the Bills, the Chiefs, these teams that 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.919 just have matchup problem after matchup problem. You kind of 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:12.719 have to be able to dictate that now on the 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.800 defensive side of the football as well, And I think 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.200 the Dolphins are in position to go ahead and do that, 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.800 or at least they are in position to have the opportunity, 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.840 I should say, to do that Before we get into 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.400 the position by position specifics here, I kind of want 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.240 to follow up with you there because you mentioned it, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.400 and I know you're again a big fan of selling 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.920 these defensive schemes. When they first hired Vic Fangio and 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.320 you knew there would be a bit of a schematic 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.080 change here, How did you think the Dolphins current personnel 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.960 fit with what he wants to do and what he 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.200 might do going forward? Because this defense is pretty much 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.039 the pre eminent system ran in the NFL, but Fanjos 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.440 had a year off to cook up some new stuff. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.880 I'm curious what you think of the personnel match with 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:48.520 this coach. 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.360 Yeah, Well, the one thing about it is that on 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.279 the surface, it was such a wholesale change, like a 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.480 one to eighty from what we've gone accustom to. You know, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.280 over the past couple of years, you've seen them go 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.960 man heavy, blitz heavy schemes, and like I said before, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.160 Vangiel has a reputation of being I don't want to 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.680 say conservative, but prioritize, prioritizing you know, the secondary in 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.360 terms of the coverage schemes and whatnot. 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.640 But I thought early on, you know, like. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.800 The pieces were in place for to really you know, 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.520 hit the ground running in year one, Like I said before, 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.320 with Jalen Phillips, sproutle each old that duo. You know, 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.760 Javon Holland in the back end. Obviously we've known him 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.839 to be a lockdown man and man corner. But I 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.200 thought that, you know, his ability to read coverage concepts 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.520 and whatnot. I thought that it really this scheme was 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.120 really going to lend itself to X having a really 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.680 big season in twenty twenty three. And then obviously you 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.680 add Jalen Ramsey, who, as I said before, has the 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.760 familiarity and start in this uh this scheme no pun intended. 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.960 You know, you add David Long and others. So again 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.039 the pieces are in place for them to not only 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.719 do what Evangio has been known for over the past 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.760 few years, but to also again be versatile and to 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.919 you know, switch up their game plan to face the 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.160 various unique offenses across the NFL, and like you said, NBAFC, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.280 which is very, very loaded with offensive talent. 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.040 It's the balance right now, is so I ou to whack, 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.080 in my opinion, across how just the powerhouses in this conference. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.400 It almost seems unfair a little bit, but hey, that's 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.760 that's the hand you Delton, go out and beat those 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.720 teams and prove yourself anyway. So you know that's that's 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.920 We'll talk about Xavier and Howard here in the defensive 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.480 back portion. But I want to start. I don't know 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.480 how you do it, Daniel. Like whenever I do NFL previews, 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:32.000 I always go AFC East, north, southwest, that same rotation, 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.680 and then NFC obviously, and then when it comes to 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.480 the position groups, I always start defensive line linebackers and 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.240 the defensive back, so it goes like front to back. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.280 I suppose that's where we're gonna start here, is with 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.680 this defensive line. Just gonna read off the roster here 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.560 for you real quick. Randy Charlton, Emmanuel Ogba, Zach Seeler, 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:52.040 Anthony Montalvo, Christian Wilkins, Josiah Bronson, Jalen Twyman, and ray 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.200 Kwon Davis. And when you go through that list, you 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.080 have a decent mix of like guys that are at 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.720 different stages of their career. Obviously for very accomplished pro 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.600 so far at this stage of their career with ogbab Wilkins, Seeler, 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.280 and Davis, and then some unproven guys, some guys that 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.600 are either rookies or in their you know, second or 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.600 third year trying to make a name for themselves here. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:12.920 I'm curious what about that group stands out to you 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.040 just kind of your I guess bird's eye view of 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:16.440 this Dolphins defensive front. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.000 Well, say, it was good to see Emanuel Agba out there. Obviously, 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.320 you know, missing a good port person port excuse me, 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.720 a portion of the season with the tristeps injury. He 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.760 obviously said that he had been making clear, so it's 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.040 good to see him get active and team drills and 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.640 we saw him in on a couple of couple of 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.120 pressures and you know, kind of doing a lot of 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.800 the things that we've seen the passional two seasons. Where 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.680 he led the team in sacks. Obviously Christian he's everywhere 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.160 on the field. You hear him, you see him, he's 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.280 raising twenty yards the field. He's his usual Christian Wilk himself, 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.200 Raykwon Davis as well, you know, taking that next step 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.040 adding more to his past orsus Arsenal. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.080 That was good to see. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.760 But again, you have some some young defensive linemen who 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.600 you know, less throuded, but they you know, had some 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.880 flashes as well. Desire Bronson, Jail and Twinement, both of 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:05.679 them spent time on a practice squad last year. But 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.520 I think that they showed some really good things in 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.920 terms of not only the rushing the passer which you 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.160 know I'm holding, you know, gap integrity and you know 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.480 obviously it's no pads, but you know, looking like they 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.040 have pretty good reps, pretty good run stuff in reps. 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.840 So again, I mean, you see you look at that 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:26.560 defensive line and you know the starting group is very 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.839 very strong, but the depth there as well is looking 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.800 like it could be something that's really uh, you know, 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:33.640 a boom for the Dolphins. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.040 That's a question I was going to ask you here 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.680 next because you know you mentioned Bronson and Twinement like 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.040 you and I sitting next to each other, like the 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.560 ninety five make another players there, Yeah, she sure did. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.199 And I think it's it's that's the fun part about 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.760 these practices this time of year to me is like, 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.000 you know, I'm not going to go crazy about what 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.480 Tua or you know, Tyreek Hill does this time of year, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:53.959 because I know what those guys are at the stage 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.000 of their career. But as trying to find these guys 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:57.800 that you don't know much about and seeing how many 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.920 plays they can make and how consistently they can fl 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.720 and like McDaniel says, again, give themselves the opportunity to 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.080 come back into training camp and earn more reps, which 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.160 then gives you a chance to earn playing time in 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.880 the preseason and then of course into the regular season. 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:12.880 It's a fun progression for me. Is it's so cool 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.160 being on the team, you know, all all year long 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.640 to see that progression play out and eventually get the 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.480 end product in September. But I do want to start 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.160 there because I have a couple of questions for you 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.800 about this group in general. Is that John Jenkins role 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:26.920 that you know. I think when you went into the 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.760 offseason you thought they might either bring Jenkins back or 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.400 find someone to kind of fulfill that. And it's not 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.080 like a significant role in terms of the snap counts. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.920 He played what two three hundred snaps last year, But 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.760 right now, Raykwon Davis is the only you know, three 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.160 hundred and thirty pound plus guy that you can probably 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.559 line up over the nose tackle and say, hey, you're 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.960 the zero technique. You can play this role and go 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.040 stack up some bodies in the front and help our 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.160 linebackers stake clear on that back end. And you know, 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.839 Wilkins and Seedler can play any damn position across the front, 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.360 so I don't short change them in that regard, but 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.520 I am curious what you think about who might fit 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.640 that back up role to Rayquon Davis on the interior 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.080 on this roster right now. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.160 Yeah, that's a really good question, and I know that 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.199 in the media, that's that's the spot that you know 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.040 a lot of people have kind of kind of earmarked, 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:15.880 you know, the Dolphins addressing over the next few months, 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.160 whether that's at some point in training camp before the 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:22.080 season starts. You know, Brandon Peely has the body type 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:26.320 they undrafted uh roogably from USC that they signed. He 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.480 has kind of a body type to take on that role, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:31.240 but obviously it means to be. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.720 Seen who exactly would back up Rakwon. 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:35.880 One thing that has been coming to mind as we've 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.200 you know, progressed through off the workouts is just, you know, 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.720 just the various defensive fronts that Vanjol will use, and 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.880 and I do wonder, you know, obviously Rayqwan plays a 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.920 big role in this defense in terms of taking on 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.199 multiple defenders and opening up things for the linebackers of 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.640 the second level, but I do wonder like if maybe, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.120 you know, there are some unique defensive fronts that Vanjol 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.400 could use that you know, kind of a allow them 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:05.000 to maybe skate by and not necessarily need like a prototypical, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.040 you know, zero taking type of guy. But you know, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.599 again there is a possibility, and that is kind of 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.680 open that backup spot next to Ray Kwon. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.240 I appreciate you mentioning Brandon peelely because I blew by 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.160 his name on the run down there and forgot to 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.280 put him in the list there. So my apologies to 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.199 Brandon Peeley and the Dolphins defensive line group there. He's 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:24.800 in the list. He's on the groups in the roster. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:26.760 I did not mention him off the top there, and 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.480 you kind of took me into my last question here 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.240 about this group before we take our first break in 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.480 this In this defensive line position, is those various fronts 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.000 that you can run And we've known, you know, I've 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.120 had you know, Sean Sayet was a great guest on 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.559 the podcast while back breaking down the Vic Fangio scheme, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.240 and everyone I talked to talks about in the past 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.840 he's ran lighter box fronts and had more you know, 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.200 back seven players on the field to round out his 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.760 personnel groupings. And you mentioned it there, and I keep 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.040 thinking about Emmanuel Ogbas kind of one of one on 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.080 the roster in terms of a guy that's really more 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.240 of a true hand in the dirt defensive end, but 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.960 also can condense inside you know, six foot four, two 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.480 hundred and seventy five pounds, give or take, and really 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.560 one of those true even front, even front ends. And 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.680 then you have guys like Wilkins and Seeler again like 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.760 I mentioned, who've played primarily in odd front in their career. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.000 But we've also seen, you know, Wilkins played that even 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.640 front look at back at Clemson, so I'm just I 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.920 don't really know the question here exactly, Daniel, But I'm 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.320 looking at this group and wondering, like maybe they just 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.720 have eleven guys they want to put on the field 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.679 at once, and you just kind of pick and choose 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.400 your players because you do have so many guys here 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.040 that can fulfill multiple roles. Maybe you don't have to 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.680 look elsewhere for that, you know, like you mentioned that 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:38.160 zero technique position. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.679 Yeah, I mean for all the versatility and talent we 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.080 talked about in the second area. I mean, you look 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:44.920 at Aga and you look at the defensive line, and. 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.160 You can do a lot of really interesting things there. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.959 Agua, when we spoke to him a couple of weeks 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.280 back early in the offseason workout program, he said himself, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.520 and he expects to play across the offensive line. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:56.439 So again, you can do hand in the dirt. 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.360 You can you know, move a little outside to maybe 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.080 seven technique, maybe even move into three technique. Like you 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:03.679 can do a lot of things. Just gives that body 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.000 type and that skill set. And again with him Christian 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.320 Steeler Ray Kwon and then even like we're gonna get 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.880 into the edge guys, the out our linebackers to like 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.440 Radley Chubb, Jalen Phillips. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.720 I mean, those guys can move in sometimes as well. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.600 So it's like it's really like you might just kind 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.880 of deploy whatever combination you want and then let them 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:23.280 go to work. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.640 You know. The versatility is one thing we're gonna hear 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.680 about that. A lot of versatility, versatility, versatility. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.240 The Dolphins can do a lot of things just because 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.520 of the skill set of the guys they have in house. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:32.000 Right now. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.080 I think that that comment right there is what benefits 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.720 the Dolphins maybe more than anything else, is the fact 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.760 that we just don't really know what it might look like. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.840 And of course you'll get tape, you know, come Week 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.880 one of what this defense looks like, but maybe it's 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.160 it's completely different in Week two, and that could play 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.240 the Dolphins advantage here early in the season, especially in 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.240 a tough schedule to open the year. You know, Chargers, Patriots, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.440 you got Buffalo on there, and who I'm missing in 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.160 Week three the Broncos in there. I mean, it's a 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.800 tough it's a tough road offensively as far as the 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.200 opposite side of the field going up against the Dolphins 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.240 team early on. So maybe that kind of you know, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.120 obscurity and not knowing what's going to happen, there is 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.240 a benefit to the Dolphins. So you also mentioned the 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.840 edge group and kind of linebackers in general. We'll hit 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.600 that next or on the other side. Take our first 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.560 break right here and come back with my guest from 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.840 the Miami Herald, Daniel Ojafusi Drive Time podcast, your host 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:23.360 Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation, picking it 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.080 back up on the roster reset middle of the month 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.560 of June edition here. This is the fourth time I've 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.440 done this this season, Daniel. I think it's good to 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.840 take a look at the roster at various points of 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.080 the off season. Here and now we head into the 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.440 actual off season where there's almost no football news going on. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.480 So we're going to keep you guys informed here talking 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.960 about this Dolphins ross. We're talking about the NFL as 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.160 we head, you know, into training camp, which you'll be 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.040 here before you know it, so enjoy your vacations, enjoy 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:48.720 your time off. But I want to talk about the 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:50.720 linebacker group here. You mentioned it a little bit on 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.680 the previous side, you know, the edge position with guys 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.640 like the first two guys in the list here, Bradley 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.720 Chubb and Jalen Phillips and what they can kind of 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.840 offer you in terms of their versatility. You mentioned Emmanuel 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.040 Ogba play in that three technique position at times, and 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.400 he condesce in there some times last year and did 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.040 some stuff where he's sett in the pick on pick 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.720 stunts and just being multiple and versatile. Jalen Phillips does 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:12.840 that too. You know, Bradley Chubb as at versaal as 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.320 they come as well. So those are the top two 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.680 guys here on the linebacker list in terms of the 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.040 jersey numbers, number two, number fifteen. Then we go to 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:23.720 Channing Tandall, Andrew, Ben Ginkle, Duke Riley, Malik, Creed, Mitchell, Agude, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.800 David Long Junior, Aubrey Miller, Cameron Good, Jerome Baker, Garrett Nelson, 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.640 and Zeke Vanderberg. So I know it's kind of putting 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.960 edge and off ball together here in that group, Daniel, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:34.760 But I'll ask you the same question. Ask on the 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.760 defensive line, your bird's eye view of this group and 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.040 how they operate in this defense. 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:43.120 I would say that you know that pairing of Chubb 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.600 and Jalen Phillips is going to be one to watch. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:50.840 You know, obviously teammatee the mid season trade for Chubb, 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.080 and you know they spoke glowingly about his impact and 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.120 what he did opening up stuff for others. And then 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.640 you have Jalen Phillips, who Mikey Daniel said his practice 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.520 at a level that he's never seen. So you know, 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.280 you look at previous banjail stops, he has done some 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:11.439 really really special stuff with his outside linebacker, edge defender, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.960 you past rushers, you know, whether it's Audum Smith or 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.919 Khalils Mack or Von Miller. So you know, if you 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.760 just look at his track record, you know you're your 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.280 reason to be excited if you're a Miami Dolphins fan. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.280 And I think that you know, and what we saw 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.879 especially from Jalen Phil really good. His usual stuff, you know, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.439 just that mixed of power and speed and that you 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:36.160 know makes life terrible for offensive lineman. I will say, 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.320 one of the ud f A edge guys who really 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:39.919 sped out to me. And I'm sure you agree as 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.960 Mitchell and Goudey, who is similar to Phillips and his 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.960 his road to Miami, you know, starting at u c 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.080 l A and then going to University of Miami and 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.840 now he's in Miami Gardens. You know, he's following up 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.520 similar career art right now, and I thought he's he 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:55.440 was off to a great start. 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.720 And office's in workouts, you know, Jalen said. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.680 That he's a really twitchy athletic guy and he saw 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.160 that in the where he can kind of knife through, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.200 knife through into the backfield and whatnot. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.560 So we had a great size six and forty two. 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.040 He really stood out to me as well. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.720 So that's another interesting group because you have the the 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.280 past rushing duo of Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb. J 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.480 also have Andrew bank Geko. We have the ability ability 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.200 to play multiple spots. You have Malik Reid who spent 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.200 time in Denver as well, you know, and Mitchell Guide 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:25.840 is kind of one of those guys making his claim 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.600 to you know, you know, be part of that that 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:29.280 position group. 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.119 It's tough to sort this group because I look at 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.600 it as one of the best, you know, edge groups 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.720 in the entire national football Like I think the Dolphins 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.960 are really well set there and at the wide receiver position, 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.000 two spots that are pretty important today's NFL. And man, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.199 I just I'm wondering how the snap counts are going 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:46.760 to play out, and that's obviously for the coaches to 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.760 decide come training camp. But you mentioned they're Chubb and Phillips. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.640 I mean Phillips last year. Let's go ahead and start 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.040 with him, because he's a guy that you know, had 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.760 good sack production, had good pressure numbers, had good run 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.440 defense numbers. But I felt like there was so much 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.240 more for him to get there, almost in the way 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.880 that I kind of talked about Jalen Wattles rookie season 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.120 on the offensive side of the football, saying like, yeah, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:09.880 he caught a hunter balls, but I'm telling you there 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.639 was so much more yards for him to get just 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.040 based upon where he was open in the progression of 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.240 the offense and looked like he was, you know, creating 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.640 separation consistently, not just in the short area, but down 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.399 the field. I'm watching Jalen Phillips tape here, thinking like, 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.919 he's got potential for a lot more sack production, and 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.679 he had some taking off the board last year as well, 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.400 so I'm I'm hopeful to see him kind of take 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.520 that jump in that category because typically pressures and QB 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.320 hits convert to sacks at a higher rate than he 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.640 had the last couple of years. So maybe this year 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.879 can kind of you know, even out a little bit 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.359 more in that regard. But you kind of see him 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.840 as a potential breakout player here of this defense because 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:44.400 he's got all the tools in the bag. 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.040 Man. No, almost definitely. 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.560 You know, the first season, his first season was that 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.159 was a great rookie year. And you know, you know, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:55.200 obviously in his second year, maybe not having the sack totals, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:56.399 like the raw stats that. 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:58.440 Maybe didn't show how much of an impact he made. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.400 You know, he spoke about after his looking see them, 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.359 wanting to be more of every down player, better against 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.119 the run, you know, really earning the right to you know, 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:07.879 to play third down, as you hear a lot of 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.520 coaches and players talk about. 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:11.679 And I think he took those shrives. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.920 So the next next step is like being a guy 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.480 who can is dominant and is making an impact every play. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.080 And again I'll caution and say that's not just like 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.520 racking up doubles sacks or leading the team in sacks. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.520 It's about the impact. It's about Pressures are really important 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.840 as well. Maybe they don't result in a sack, disrupting 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.640 the timing of the offense being somebody that the offense 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.040 has to devote, you know, multiple blockers and attention to 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:37.640 all of that. 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:39.000 It's really important. 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.640 Freeing up your teammates to get pressures in sacks all 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:44.560 that that's really important. And I think that we saw 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.000 Jalen take those steps in year two Phillips in year two. 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:50.280 The year three is about really putting it all together 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.840 and like being that that constant every down player at 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.199 the defense are shooting that the offense has to come for. 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.080 It's funny you mentioned Mitchell a good and his you know, 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.159 his route following Phillips, and I'm looking at his potential 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.480 route to playing time this year, and like I said, 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:06.600 it's a deep group, so finding snaps is going to 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.080 be difficult for anybody in that group, just because you 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:10.920 have so many guys that you know you're gonna count 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.440 on for big snap totals this year and hopefully big production. 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.960 But you know, looking you mentioned Andrew van Ginkle was 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:17.480 a guy that I think has had such a good, 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:22.200 just solid, seady career so far. Going into your number twenty, 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.880 you're number five for him as a Miami Dolphin. Here, 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.159 Malik reed to a guy that I don't think has 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.879 gotten enough publicity here as a guy that can make 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.240 an impact on this defense. Because you know, we saw 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.199 in last year we saw guys that played kind of 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.360 a part time role have a big impact. I think 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:38.600 Malik Reed has an opportunity to be that guy because 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.280 this is a dude that was undrafted to Vic Fangio's 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.159 Broncos defenses back in you know his time there, and 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:45.760 all he did was lead the team in sacks his 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:47.439 first two years combined there. So do you think that 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.360 Malik reads a guy that maybe we're sleeping on too much? Yeah? 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.640 I mean so, so you know, Jalen and Browley aren't 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.120 going to play every single day. They're gonna they're gonna 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:56.800 need to get spelled every once in a while. And 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.920 I think that especially with Malik having somebody who has 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:01.680 the familiarity in this game. 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:03.560 My same as a guy that can do a little 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:04.080 bit of everything. 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.359 You know that maybe he's not dominant in one specific role, 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:08.920 but you can do a little bit of everything. Set 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.280 the edge, he can rush the passers, he can drop 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:13.760 back and cover it into into you know those zone 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.959 drops and whatnot. So yeah, I mean, and again, you know, 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.200 maybe they play on the field at the same time, 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.480 because you know, Jalen and Bradley can move in a 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.439 little bit, and then Molak and Andrew and Gingkle can 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:26.400 play you know, those those. 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.040 True edge spots. So again, a lot of different combinations, 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:29.680 like you can. 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:32.399 You can really just throw eleven guys out there and 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:35.240 kind of make it work, uh, you know, obviously with 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.719 some tinkering here and there. But yeah, I think that 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.439 Molie Read and Andrew Bangingkle will play big roles in 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:43.280 this offense. And you know, the rotation and stepping in 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:44.359 when those guys need to breather. 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:46.880 It kind of reminds me like a basketball rotation where 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:48.800 you're like, obviously, you can't have you know, Jimmy Butler 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:50.560 on the floor for forty eight minutes every night and 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.440 you have to find, you know, minutes elsewhere for that position. 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.400 I look at the Dolphins eleven man combinations and think 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.720 like they've got you know, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen up to 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.960 twelve guys. Maybe they feel like they can feel comfortable 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.320 rolling out there in different sets and different looks, and 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.120 it's just it's a really deep defense right now. And 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:09.360 I think that's true at our next position group here 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.639 talking about more of the linebackers, but the guys that 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.080 typically play off the football, and we've seen obviously Jerome 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.040 Baker's been here for a long time doing you know, 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:18.720 doing good stuff for a long time as a member 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.680 of the Miami Dolphins. Duke Riley's a guy that's great 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.560 on special teams, really good and sub packages and played 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.600 some some starting roles last year for you as well. 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.679 David Long, though, is the guy that I want to 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.800 start with here because he's he's kind of the big 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.520 acquisition here in terms of the front seven that Dolphins 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.760 defense made this offseason, and I thought it was such 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.480 a such a key acquisition as far as a guy 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.640 that plays with such good instincts, can beat blocks and 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.840 really give you that guy that can scrape off of 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.639 those you know, your great defensive linemen that stack up 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.280 so well with Christian and Zach and Rakwan Davis and 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.600 just creating space for him to you know, react and 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.000 flow to the football and make big plays. So I'm 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.600 curious how you think David Long fits into this defense 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:00.439 and and how big of an acquisition that was for 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:01.600 the Dolphins this offseason. 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.879 Yeah, I think that the David Long signing kind of 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.000 was like put on the back burner a little bit 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.040 just because everyone was so focused on the Jalen Ramsey 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.160 trade and what that was gonna be for the defense, 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:16.159 and obviously that's gonna have, you know, massive have a massive. 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:16.880 Impact on the defense. 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.879 But David Long was you know, quietly, he's quietly been 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.119 to one of the you know, most consistent linebackers you 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.320 know in the NFL the past couple of years. Obviously 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:27.879 maybe some and some in and out of the lineup 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:30.280 with some injury stuff, and you know, he was limited 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.879 with what McDaniel said was kind of a minor tweak. 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.720 But yeah, he is a guy who he can do 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:36.000 it all. 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.520 I mean, he can you know, you know, he's five eleven, 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.200 but he doesn't play like he's five eleven. He plays 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:42.600 like he's kind of a six or four kind of 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:45.440 throw but throwback guy in terms of like you said, scraping, 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.320 you know, uh, sliding past offensive lineman and you know, 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.960 pursuing the ball pass coverage. He has the athleticism to 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:55.240 again execute those zone drops and whatnot, and then he 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.080 has the speed to split. So I think that with 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:00.320 him with Jeron Baker, we have a a lot of 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.479 speed on you know, that second level of the defense 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:07.000 and again with those with those lighter boxes that Dan 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:10.320 jel is known to use. Guy you need guys. And 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.480 on the second level at inside linebacker, who going to 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.439 fly to the ball? That's gonna be really interesting linebacker 0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.440 duo to watch for as we get in training camp 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:19.439 and in the regular season. 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.119 It goes back to the matchup idea we discussed in 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.440 the first segment with you know, the offense being able 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.080 to dictate the terms. These two guys are going to 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:27.880 help you really, I think matchup on backs and tight 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:29.480 ends and coverage because they've both have done at a 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.200 high level so far at this stage of their career. 0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.159 And I feel like Daniel I kind of committed a 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:38.040 radio or podcasting sin one on one here by not 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.000 playing the hits first. You've mentioned it a few times, 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:43.280 Jalen Ramsey and this defensive backfield. We're gonna get to 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.320 that next and the final segment here of this edition 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.560 of the Draft Time Podcast Defensive Roster Reset. My guest 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.920 is ay Daniel Oya Fussi on the Draft Time Podcast 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:57.879 brought to you by Auto Nation. Back here for a 0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.919 third segment with my guest today from the Miami Hero, 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.840 Daniel Ojafusi taking in all these Dolphins practices, about to 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:05.879 hit vacation here in just a couple of hours. I 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:10.159 think Daniel is your last assignment here for OTA coverage, 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.920 and we're gonna end it here talking about the defensive 0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.000 back group. And again, it's kind of the same story 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.639 across this entire defense here, where you have guys that 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.679 can play multiple roles inside, outside, safety, corner like it 0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:23.640 doesn't really matter for a lot of these guys. Eyes 0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:25.959 in the quarterback taking the football away. Let's go down 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.800 the roster here real quick. Cater Kohu, Jalen Ramsey, Trull Williams, 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:31.280 a guy that you know we talked about a lot 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.480 last camp who got that unfortunate injury. Returning back from 0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:38.960 that injury, Javon Holland, Noah Igbinoghany, Justin Bethel, Toshaun Elliott, 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:43.199 Elijah Campbell, cam Smith, Xavi and Howard Keyon Crossing. Brandon 0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.560 Jones also coming back off the injury, Roan McKinley, the Third, 0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:50.480 Tino Ellis, Bennett Williams, Kedrin Smith, Ethan Bonner, Nick Needham 0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.840 also coming back off injury and Bryce Thompson. So, man, 0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:57.080 just I'm laughing as I read that list, because what 0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.160 a roster of names, man, Like, you have so many 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.880 guys that I think would play a lot of snaps 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.320 on a lot of different teams across the National Football League. 0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.480 What's your kind of bird's eye view of this defensive 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:09.440 back group, because man, I'm looking at it. It looks 0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.680 good up top, it looks deep, it looks takeaway friendly, 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:13.639 all the above. 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:13.880 Man. 0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:16.520 Yeah, my has been in trying to figure out where 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:17.640 to start with the secondary group. 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:19.160 I really really like it. 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.120 I'll start with the cornerbacks, where you know, a couple 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:23.560 of weeks ago, I just was kind of doing the 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:28.080 roster breackdown by position, and you know, if you look 0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.800 back to kind of the state of the cornerback room 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:34.919 and the myriad injuries that they had last season, you 0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.040 have to be really happy with the way it is 0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:42.480 right now, because I mean, truthfully, you have you have 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.560 several I mean truthfully, you have too many, almost like 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:46.040 too many. 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.879 They are not enough roster spots for the talent. Yeah, 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:49.400 you know. 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:54.200 I think that you have obviously the two headlining guys, 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.960 Xavien Howard and Jalen Ramsey. We know about them. They're 0:27:58.040 --> 0:27:59.960 they're the bets in the business at what they do. 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.280 And then you have kind of a lot of intrigue 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.680 with the third spot because you have Kid Kohu who 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:07.440 was really a. 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.760 Revelation as an undrafted rookie. 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.359 You have second round pick Cam Smith, who has you know, 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:17.240 all the talent to be an impact guy or you know, 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.439 in due time. And then after that, you know, you 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.159 do have some kind of questions about, you know, who's 0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.840 kind of gonna fill out the bottom end of the 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.879 overall rotation. Like we said before, Nick Needham has played 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:33.920 a big role in this defense of a versatile role 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.040 against versatility being the keyword. 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.600 Is not only an outside guy corner, but a nickelback 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:40.160 and even at Tom you know, playing a little bit 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:40.560 of safety. 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.400 You mentioned Sure Williams, who was looking really really good 0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.160 this time last year and then unfortunately had his knee 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:50.040 injury and a preseason opener no egg Monogay who you know, 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:54.000 I know, you know, you know, Commany's you know, taken 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:55.480 a while to come along in you know, the first 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.200 couple of years. But I thought that he looked solid 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.560 and Vic Vangel spoke about how he thinks that this 0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.120 scheme will be good for him. And then you have 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:05.600 you have even some veteran guys are like, you know, 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.160 some real elder statesman so to speak, you know, and 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:10.280 Justin Bethel, who has you know, kind of been a 0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.160 special team sace over his career. 0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:13.920 But I just wrote about him. I thought that he 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:14.800 had a really really. 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:18.040 Strong ot a OTAs and manatory mini camp and it 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:19.680 was kind of reminiscent of last year when he was 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.280 pressed in their duties, just volding his own, yeah, against 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.680 the receivers. Yeah, just volding his own against the receivers 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.520 in the offense. So you know, when I remember when 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.600 Chris Breer spoke about the decision of Pitt camp Smith 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.360 and it was kind of lead with a luxury pick 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.240 because they had all that talent and depth that cornerback, 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.800 and you know, was very very honest about you know, 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.840 we saw how the depth and the cupboard kind of 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.120 became very very very quickly. So we you know, you 0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.800 can never have too many cornerbacks, So I know, I 0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:49.120 just said that it's almost like the Dolf with that 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.600 too many cornerbacks, but they don't have too many cornerbacks. 0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.880 But it's a. It's a very talented group, and you know, 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.920 the various kind of battles to you know, for playing 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.280 time in roster spots on this one, that's going to 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.120 be very very interesting because frankly, truthfully, they probably don't 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:06.160 have enough spots for all the guys who are roster. 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:07.360 Yeah. 0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.200 And I think that the Chris career comment goes a 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.400 long way because it's not just about building for you know, 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.479 twenty twenty three, but also into the future. And that's 0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.160 where you kind of look at you know, ex and 0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:18.880 Jalen Ramsey, I think are still you still expect high 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.480 and production out of those guys, but you have to 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.760 be realistic that they are, you know, approaching you know, 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:24.520 their age thirty seasons coming up here in a year 0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.120 or two for both those guys, and so to have 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.720 the foresight with Okay, we know we have cater Cooho 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.280 who's been really good for his rookie season, to go 0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.040 get a guy like Cam Smith if he hits all 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.160 of a sudden, you've got two really good young players 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.560 on those rookie contracts. You know you mentioned no Egnogny 0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.680 if he can kind of you know, get his footing 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:43.120 in this system, you just keep going down the list here, 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.480 I mean Nick Needum coming back from the injury. It's 0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:47.680 it's a roster full of guys that have proven, you know, 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.160 NFL careers at this stage. And I love the point 0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.640 about you know, it seemed like in years past and 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.680 different spots of the roster as well, where it was like, yeah, 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.880 you're competing with guys that we don't really know about, 0:30:57.880 --> 0:30:59.440 you know, trying to figure out who's going to carve 0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:01.960 out roles as you're two, three and four. But like 0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:03.800 you mentioned, now, it's like trying to carve out the 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.880 role for your seven, eight nine guys, Like you're so 0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.400 deep that you're just trying to find out who's going 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.640 to be the insurance policies behind these top bench starters here. 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.640 And I think your comment there about the cornerback position 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.640 and with Jalen Ramsey, which we haven't got a chance 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.920 to see much of how he'll be deployed so far, 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:21.880 and we wouldn't talk about it anyway in the podcast 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.800 because that's not in the reporting rules here, but I 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.080 think that he is such an intriguing, you know, chess 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.400 piece in this defense and Daniel, I had Jordan Rodrieg 0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.840 on the podcast and we acquired Jalen Ramsey and she 0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.640 was talking about how the Rams kind of utilized him 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:40.840 as a guy that forced the offense to choose matchups 0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.800 going into him and allowed the defense to be the 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.320 one that dictates the terms. And I look at this group, like, 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.680 you know, X is such a good perimeter cornerback cater 0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:50.840 co who can play both inside outside, same story for 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.480 Nick Needham. You know Cam Smith, I think you feel 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.040 good about his ability both inside outside and what he 0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.480 did in college. If he can make that translation quickly 0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.800 here as a pro, it almost he's up Ramsey to 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:02.760 kind of be the guy that that does that the plays, 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.320 you know, press off the ball, that star position, cover 0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:08.920 a safety or rather i'm sorry, cover a tight end, 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.840 cover a running back. Like I think he might be 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.800 your kind of matchup eraser on that defensive end if 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:17.080 if everything goes right. 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:17.840 Yeah. 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.560 One of the more intriguing things that that Jalen did 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.920 say when he spoke to a couple of days ago 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.560 is that the way that Big Vangel sets up this 0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:30.520 defense as for certain players to be featured and to 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.720 showcase that versatility, and he's you know the prime example 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:35.880 of that, Like you said, you know, he spent his 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.840 first couple of years with the Jacksonville Jaguars where he 0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:42.120 was primarily and you know, outside lockdown corner. And then 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.760 you know, as teams, you know, saw how good he was, 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:45.840 they stopped throwing to him. 0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:47.080 So what do the Rams do? 0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.160 They moved to the star spot where he can kind 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.760 of be more active and run defense. And again, you 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.840 know a lot of the better receivers in the NFL 0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.760 are playing that slot position, you know, like you know, Jailesuado, Tyreee, 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.560 Justin Jefferson, jamar Cha. These guys are really lining up 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.720 a lot and Deonte Adams, these guys are lining up 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:05.360 in the flots. 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:06.160 So you know, what do you do? 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.760 You move your best cornerback inside so that that versatility 0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.080 and that kind of quote unquote chess piece allows you to, 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.200 you know, build your entire defense around his skill sets. 0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.240 So it's gonna be interesting to see what the Dolphins 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.320 have in store for him. Jalen Ramsey, you know, he 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:21.920 said it a lot. He's like, I'm not a cornerback, 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.680 I'm a defensive back. And yeah, you know, he probably 0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.440 thinks he can play, you know, quarterback. If you know 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.120 he's called upon to do that. So it's his versatility again, 0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.560 that key word, that buzzword, is going to do wonders 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:32.240 for this defense. 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.400 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, he if 0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.200 he wanted to play some buck line back on those 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.280 sub packages where you kind of have that unique you know, 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.480 like like I mentioned, tight end running back coverage type 0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.920 of responsibility. I just wouldn't put it pas him to 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:44.680 be able to do whatever you ask him to do 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:46.760 because he's that kind of player. And speaking of that 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:48.200 kind of player, I think there's another one of those 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.560 guys on the back end here in the safety group. 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.520 And you look at the balance of this roster, it's 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.280 it does seem to be like there are more corners 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.719 than safeties, and that's kind of where I can think 0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.440 you get the idea of just versatility and matchup specific 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.320 But this safety group led by a guy that everyone's 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.040 super high on right now, Javon Holland, including Vic Fangio, 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.680 who said there's nothing I don't like about the guy. 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:09.520 I think that bodes pretty well for him. And we've 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.439 seen what Vic Fangio has done with you know, star 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.080 safeties in the past. Going back to his time with Denver, 0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.600 San Francisco and Chicago as well, just kind of getting 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.319 production from that group in general. But then that kind 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:20.920 of I think it's where you kind of get some interesting, 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.719 you know, conversation pieces with Brandon Jones, who we know 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:26.400 is a really good player, but coming back off the 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.200 injury to Sean Elliott's a guy. That man. He plays 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.279 one hundred miles an hour at all times, and I 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.640 thought he was impressive out here at OTAs. And then 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:35.080 from there you kind of look at who Mike carve 0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.360 out a role from between Veron McKinley, a couple of 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.200 rookies and the guy like Bennett Williams out there curious 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.640 what you think about this group, and from Javon Holland 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.120 up top as a guy that you know is going 0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:45.439 to play a lot to the rest of the group, 0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.160 and how it kind of rounds out the depth was. 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:49.160 Yeah, we have a common thing. 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.000 We we were saying, like, oh, Vick of angel as 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.000 a track record of disposition in that position. 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:54.320 It's like it's the same for safety. 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:55.600 It's like he just have an over he just has 0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.800 an overall track record like being good for all players 0:34:58.840 --> 0:34:59.600 and I'm just good. 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.480 Yeah, yeah, safety is one of those positions. 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.680 Like you said, justin Simmons, it was an All Pro 0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.880 Pro Bowl player under Vic vangel and I see that 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.160 as kind of like a template for what Jamon Holland 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.280 could do in this defense. You know, not just playing 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.239 you know, kind of a center field type of safety role, 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.640 but going into those you know, split looks, being close 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.239 to the line of screammage, maybe more blitzing, taking on 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:22.920 tight ends and coverage and whatnot. 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.640 So the again, the skill set allows itself to do 0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:26.319 a lot of things. 0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.799 You know, the spot, the safety spot next to him 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:33.120 is interesting because you know, the first kind of inclination 0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:37.759 when they signed Deshaun Elliott was oh, you know, competition 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.480 for that spot. But you know they they there may be, 0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.719 but I would say, I mean, I think that the 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.640 skill set allows them to play with each other, you know, 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.480 you know, be on the field at the same time. 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.360 You know, I know Deshaun from my time covering the Ravens, 0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.040 you know, a couple of years back, and you know 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.000 he he you know, did a lot of multiple things. 0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.600 You know, he not on he did the free safety 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.520 center field role, but he was you know, very effective 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.520 in there the line of scrimmage, especially blitzing in and 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.319 right and run run defense. You know, I think there's 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:10.880 a kind of like a viral clip of him just 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.520 like taking Derrick Henry head on and he like held 0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.839 his own and he won, he won the battle there. 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.520 So he yeah, he's a he's a heavy hitter. Brandon 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.440 Jones is obviously one of the best blitzing safeties in 0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:27.080 the NFL. So again, you know, there's gonna be great competition, 0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.440 and you know, like Mike McDaniels said, a lot, you know, 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.600 a lot of a lot of positive competition. It's like 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.160 a competitive combinerie, like everyone pushing each other to get better. 0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.280 But again, I mean you could see maybe some sub packages. 0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:38.640 I mean it's kind of a guess you could maybe 0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.960 see that where you have you know, maybe Jamon and 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.600 Deshaun dropping into you know, split looks or whatever. But 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:46.880 you also have a guy who can you know, in 0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:48.680 Brandon Jones, who can play close to the line of 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.239 scrimmage and do a lot of different things. So again, 0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:53.279 this is all part of it, you know, I asked Vick, 0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.840 you know, like, are you kind of are you spending 0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.440 this va care? Are you spending this time off you know, 0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.960 kind of going back to the drawing board and advising stuff, 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:02.000 and he's like, now I'm on vacation. 0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.040 But I think I do. I do think that, you know, 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.640 a couple of times you might bring up the dry erase. 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.799 Board and kind of start Johns some things down because 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.120 there's just so many different things you can do. 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.719 I mean, he's a guy that his year away, he 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.120 couldn't get away from it for more than you know. 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.760 Every day he was talking about watching film and cooking 0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:19.880 up some new coverages. So I think that that's kind 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.320 of how you make it in this business, man, just 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:22.799 because you're thinking about it all the time. And I'm 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.240 sure coaches is doing the same thing. Although that rests 0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.239 and relaxation certainly play a big part and making sure 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.560 you're refreshing ready to go for a training camp. But Daniel, 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.600 you said, all man, that big Nickel package, you know, 0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.560 that's that's a pretty prominent one in the NFL these days. 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.560 But a those three guys I think really round out 0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.160 a good trio of safeties with erstattle skill sets and 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.160 compliment each other very well. Though. But man, you covered 0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.080 it all in depth here. We got about thirty some 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.040 minutes around the podcast. Why don't you go ahead and 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.080 close up here by telling us where people can find 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:49.960 your work, where they can find you on social and 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.040 what you're working on here the next coming weeks. 0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.479 No, most definitely, so you can find me on social media. 0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.000 Usually put most of my Dolphin's updates on Twitter at 0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.319 Daniel o yaf we see last name o ye at 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.120 USI and then obviously you can read all my work 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.480 at my mirror, at my mayor at newspaper. 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:07.960 All right, sounds good man, thanks a lot, Dan, I 0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:08.759 appreciate your time today. 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.319 Man aainy time man talk to later. 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.279 And there he goes, it is possible I pulled an 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.120 old man move there and didn't have my zoom setting 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:20.080 set to my microphone plug in, So I apologize. If 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.279 that audio was rough, there's just no way to recover that. 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.799 So if it sounded bad, I do apologize. I hope 0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:27.960 it was okay and good enough for you guys, Digest, 0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:31.200 because I thought the content from Daniel was really, really good. 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:34.000 All right, that's my time. We're gonna come back on Thursday, 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.680 and here from Marcel Louis Jalk about this Dolphins offense. 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.239 Do the exact same thing with him, fun conversation with 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.000 these two guys. Man Like, these guys know their ball, 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.080 they know their stuff, They're they're easy to talk to, 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.840 which makes it, you know, a podcast fun. I've always 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.800 thought that just football analysts with nothing else offer no value. 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:51.759 If you've got the football analyst and you've also got 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.080 some personality to you, that's my kind of guess I 0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:55.759 want to have here on the show. So I think 0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.319 we accomplished that with both Daniel and Marcel. All Right, 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.359 so Marcelle come up on Thursday. In the meantime, it's 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.320 gonna be my time. You all. Please be sure to 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.239 subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcast. Leave us a rating, 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.600 leave us a review. You can follow me on Twitter 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.200 at Wingfold NFL. Follow the team at Miami Dolphins. Check 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:14.560 out The Fish Tank with Seth and Juice the Jeff 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.160 Wilson episode. 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