Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, we are back with twats flashbacks with myself,
Speaker 2: Teddy Hellencamp and Tamora.
Speaker 3: Judge, where the fashion is bad and slide dates everybody where.
Speaker 4: Things happen at a rapid pace, and I'm unable to
Speaker 4: keep up with all the people.
Speaker 2: Dating one another. I didn't realize that was this name,
Speaker 2: Dolph Duff. Duff.
Speaker 4: I mean they start him out working in the insurance office,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, I realized he's Tammy
Speaker 4: Knickerbocker's baby's daddy baby dads.
Speaker 3: Later, well Ill said what you might not know season fourteen,
Speaker 3: my last season, Shannon started briefly dating him.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's just I mean, he's handsome, but
Speaker 4: like I can't even keep up, like the fact that
Speaker 4: our right, we're just going to start at the beginning,
Speaker 4: because it's edited together in such chaos that you're like,
Speaker 4: what's happened?
Speaker 3: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Who? Oh she's leaving. I thought she was a housewife.
Speaker 2: She's moved. She's actually packed up.
Speaker 4: Like there's so many layers and people and they're not
Speaker 4: ever filming together that I was like, I needed to
Speaker 4: really like get a pad, piece of paper and take
Speaker 4: notes on this shit.
Speaker 3: And I can't wait to go with the taglines.
Speaker 4: Okay, we do have to go to the taglines. First,
Speaker 4: we have to call this. This original title of this
Speaker 4: episode is called The house Wives Are Back.
Speaker 2: Start Back.
Speaker 3: Joe must try to decide between partying and slade. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: Gina and Matt try their best to work on their marriage.
Speaker 3: And Tammy was a single mother struggles to raise three children.
Speaker 3: It was big problems back then, big problems, big problems.
Speaker 4: And you know what, I actually appreciated everybody not given
Speaker 4: any f's and showing their worst selves on reality television,
Speaker 4: especially kids, well not even fighting with other housewives. They're
Speaker 4: just their own lives are so I mean, nobody had
Speaker 4: filters back then, so every how, how quickly.
Speaker 2: Would most of them be canceled today?
Speaker 4: I mean even the children would be canceled, children, especially
Speaker 4: the children, like this is a lot. Okay, we'll start
Speaker 4: with taglines. I love that they all involve money. It's
Speaker 4: so good, Laurie.
Speaker 2: I was poor, I was rich, I was poor again,
Speaker 2: and you know what, having money is easier, That's classic.
Speaker 3: Gina. I have always wanted things I crave money.
Speaker 2: Joe, I deserve only the best. I'm worth it.
Speaker 3: Yes you are, jo VICKI, here's to not being fake.
Speaker 2: They're putting her eyelashes on. I can't chammy. I don't
Speaker 2: let my kids or my ex'es drive me crazy. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: they're driving me crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are all sound bites from the show. That's
Speaker 3: how we used to get our taglines. They used to
Speaker 3: just take something we said that was crazy while filming,
Speaker 3: and voila, you have a tagline.
Speaker 2: I just can't believe that.
Speaker 4: I mean, this isn't the nineteen hundreds, this is the
Speaker 4: two thousands, and that it feels like we're like that
Speaker 4: I'm going to but that I'm going to see you
Speaker 4: in the next season.
Speaker 2: Like this feels like so long ago. Do you want
Speaker 2: to talk about fried hair? I mean in.
Speaker 3: A tan from a tanning bed, that's me.
Speaker 4: It's is your hair spried as much as some of
Speaker 4: the kids, like the girls that are platinum blondes on
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 3: Yes, the first two years I was on my hair
Speaker 3: was fried and I just fed f F fred.
Speaker 4: Well, it starts off where we realize that we are
Speaker 4: losing a Housewife.
Speaker 2: I've already forgotten her name. Unfortunately, Kimberly, she moved to Chicago.
Speaker 3: She moved to Chicago because it's only three months of
Speaker 3: sun there.
Speaker 4: But you can tell she'd actually already moved there because
Speaker 4: she just had to carry on luggage and all of
Speaker 4: her kids and family were gone, and she just comes
Speaker 4: to say goodbye to the ladies.
Speaker 2: But that is the end. We never see her again
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 3: Correct, We never see or hear from her ever again.
Speaker 3: I think at one point she was asked to do
Speaker 3: like the hundred Housewife show, a hundredths show for Orange
Speaker 3: County like the one hundredth show, and she.
Speaker 4: Declined, oh, she is at Lorie's wedding party in season three,
Speaker 4: she is, I was there.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that. But in the Housewife book by Dave.
Speaker 3: Quinn, Kimberly wanted nothing to do with the show and
Speaker 3: has lived a private life since. Even for the hundredth episodes,
Speaker 3: she declined.
Speaker 4: She's done, she's done with the show. She lived, she learned,
Speaker 4: she got her double d's, and she was out of there.
Speaker 2: She's out.
Speaker 4: Well, they didn't disappoint on giving us some playboy party
Speaker 4: content again, just like last season, which this is a sidebar.
Speaker 4: I've just listened to Crystal Hefner's book. It's also a
Speaker 4: must listen. It's good and she has a very soothing voice.
Speaker 4: So it's one of those books that like you can
Speaker 4: kind of relax to before you go to bed. But
Speaker 4: it's kind I mean, there's definitely it's traumatic and there's
Speaker 4: all kinds of craziness.
Speaker 2: But you guys should download it. But AnyWho, Joe and
Speaker 2: her friend JJ, who I like. I like JJ, yep,
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're still friends. Joe and JJ are
Speaker 2: going to the Playboy mansion for a party. Slate is
Speaker 2: not concerned that Joe is going without him. Oh bullshit.
Speaker 3: He showed up unannounced and got turned down.
Speaker 4: Yet they show him still with the Hummer driving down
Speaker 4: to La trying to get in. Like how embarrassing. It's
Speaker 4: all of its emberson embers. It's really imbursing. It's no
Speaker 4: one else is awesome inbursing. I thought when they were,
Speaker 4: when Joe was just trying on and Joe, I'm not
Speaker 4: shading it. This is something I would do too. But
Speaker 4: I thought when you were trying on all your different lingeries,
Speaker 4: that you were going to remove the tags that were
Speaker 4: not like the ones that were like poking out of
Speaker 4: the back of your thong.
Speaker 2: But then I saw you departing and you didn't so.
Speaker 4: Jj you didn't even tell Joe to remove her thong
Speaker 4: piece that her friend.
Speaker 3: But you know, we got to see Joe naked in
Speaker 3: the shower. I'm just gonna say, I'm just gonna I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna say this and put out there. Joe walked
Speaker 3: so I can run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, it was very edgy.
Speaker 3: Back then to be filming taking a shower naked.
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 4: She She set the tone and and a shocking turn
Speaker 4: of events. I have been to a Playboy party and
Speaker 4: it wasn't as a cater waiter. I actually got in
Speaker 4: and then that they never had me back again.
Speaker 2: So I guess was it was it that lingerie party? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It was. It was the Midsummer Night's Dream party.
Speaker 4: Why don't you wait in the parking garage and then
Speaker 4: you first you have to submit a photo, then you
Speaker 4: wait in the parking garage and if you would have
Speaker 4: seen my lingerie outfit that I chose.
Speaker 3: Can you please find a picture and post it?
Speaker 4: I don't even we didn't have like cam it wasn't
Speaker 4: like we had bones, like we had sidekicks. So like,
Speaker 4: I don't know that I could even find a photo.
Speaker 4: I could maybe ask my friend Kimbo if she has one,
Speaker 4: because I had.
Speaker 3: I didn't go to that party. I went to another
Speaker 3: party at the Playwood Mansion, and that's where I met
Speaker 3: Denise Richards.
Speaker 2: Didn't you like make out or not makeout? Didn't you
Speaker 2: hang out with.
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 2: Was it Axl Rose or someone there? Or was that Shannon?
Speaker 3: No, I did hang out with one.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It's a guy's name, the one that she dressed up as.
Speaker 2: I know, it's not Axel Rose's. Yes, Yeah, there was
Speaker 2: a lot of different celebrities there.
Speaker 4: Well, I did have in a shocking turn of events,
Speaker 4: I had a celebrity makeout at the Playboy Mansion.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately I can't remember his name, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to google the movie he was in.
Speaker 4: Okay, this was a big early two thousands heart throb,
Speaker 4: and I remember going in. All we did was kiss guys.
Speaker 4: Everyone can tone down. He was definitely not married. I
Speaker 4: still don't think he's married because I see him years
Speaker 4: later at Equinox and No. Unfortunately, our productions team's messaging
Speaker 4: us was a Chad Michael Murray.
Speaker 2: It absolutely was not. He was in the movie with Drew.
Speaker 4: Barrymore where she went back to high school and they
Speaker 4: kept calling her Josie Grossie and he was her teacher
Speaker 4: that she fell in love with, but she was an
Speaker 4: adult reporter going back to high school. Michael Vartan, Michael Vartan,
Speaker 4: no idea who that is? Well, he was quite handsome
Speaker 4: and I it was, it was. It was pretty excited
Speaker 4: for that kiss.
Speaker 3: So I've never never been kissed.
Speaker 4: Never been kissed, and I've never been kissed since at
Speaker 4: a Playboy mansion since Michael Vartan.
Speaker 2: So thank you, Michael Vartan for that's.
Speaker 3: Going on with the Playboy mansion these days.
Speaker 2: It's sold.
Speaker 3: I know what what are they using it for?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 4: I think it sold to like this social hite lady,
Speaker 4: but I didn't really follow that down. But it's under
Speaker 4: it's under renovations, so I think I don't think it ended.
Speaker 4: I don't think things ended well with that, just like
Speaker 4: Vicky and Don's marriage exactly.
Speaker 3: But Joe saying that brunettes don't get in. They had
Speaker 3: the Senate picture I'm like, please, God, I hope you
Speaker 3: didn't send in the one with the pigtails looking like
Speaker 3: Wednesday Atoms like you were in your confessional nose.
Speaker 2: Weren't those braids?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They were braids. Oh, pigtail braids.
Speaker 3: And little Wednesday Atoms outfits.
Speaker 4: I absolutely, I mean, these professional looks are everything. Vicky
Speaker 4: and Don talk about how they're having an independent marriage.
Speaker 4: He got a new job and he travels a lot.
Speaker 4: And then Vicky's son Michael has been working with his dad,
Speaker 4: Michael Senior. Vicky thought it was important for Michael to
Speaker 4: know his dad now that he's an adult. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to say that Don travels a lot on purpose, but.
Speaker 3: Don travels a lot on purpose. Trust me, I lived
Speaker 3: it way back then. Oh God, Michael and Brianna look
Speaker 3: so much like their dad.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so much. So give me the history.
Speaker 4: Did Vicky and Michael get married out of high school?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got.
Speaker 3: Married young in Chicago, and then they split up When
Speaker 3: the kids are really little, she met Don, and then
Speaker 3: Don pretty much was the father figure in their life.
Speaker 3: Their dad, Michael wasn't really in their life, so that.
Speaker 2: But that was interesting backstory.
Speaker 4: I had no idea about I actually thought don was
Speaker 4: their parents, so like the dad, So I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I'm learning a lot, you guys, I'm.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you noticed that she Michael went to
Speaker 3: Chicago and lived with his uncle his dad when he went.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and his uncle seemed like a cool guy.
Speaker 2: He is really cool. Then Gina, I love her subtle bragging.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite.
Speaker 3: Gina, the ex Playboy centerfold.
Speaker 2: Who's also in the top one percent worldwide with Remax
Speaker 2: real estate.
Speaker 3: You also know that she was the is you know
Speaker 3: that famous picture?
Speaker 2: Is it Nagel the famous picture? I don't know. Well,
Speaker 2: she's that's that's her, that's her. Yeah, Well she said.
Speaker 4: The average household income in CODO, So for those of
Speaker 4: us not in the know, it's coded a CAUSO.
Speaker 2: But if you're like in, it's just CODEA.
Speaker 4: The average household income in Codo is one hundred and
Speaker 4: ninety six nine and thirty nine dollars and average home
Speaker 4: prices are one point eight.
Speaker 2: Million anymore not anymore?
Speaker 4: What would you say a down payment for a house
Speaker 4: in oc is one point eight million?
Speaker 3: Well, depends on how much house, what the price is.
Speaker 2: Well, what about the CODO houses normal Codo house, like
Speaker 2: an average house.
Speaker 3: You're looking at two million minimum, and then it goes on.
Speaker 2: Up to fifty million.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it bus it's a little bit pressy. Then we
Speaker 4: we edit right back to Joe and Slade and the
Speaker 4: lingerie and the trust issues. Joe says they have trust
Speaker 4: issues since everything happened with Louri. I'm like, I feel
Speaker 4: like they may have had trust issues prior to what
Speaker 4: happened with Louri.
Speaker 3: Oh whoa Oh I found one with her actually in it?
Speaker 2: Would you ever?
Speaker 4: I mean we've talked about I feel like on other shows,
Speaker 4: like do you I don't even know that Joe. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't even know that Slade and Laurie like really
Speaker 4: dated dated.
Speaker 2: I think that was solely to piss off Joe.
Speaker 3: Right, say that again to piss off Joe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Slade and Laurie dated solely to piss
Speaker 4: off Joe, like make her jealous.
Speaker 3: Probably or he was just trying to stay on the show.
Speaker 4: But also why was he calling Laurie on the way
Speaker 4: to the Playboy mansion to see if she was going,
Speaker 4: like she's gonna really fake out?
Speaker 3: Because he probably thought maybe she can get him in.
Speaker 4: But then we come to find out that she has
Speaker 4: a whole new house, life everything, because she's already got
Speaker 4: a new dude. Like, of course she's not going to
Speaker 4: answer Slade's call.
Speaker 2: I mean, the balls for him to even call. Well,
Speaker 2: she's like delete, And did we see a clip?
Speaker 4: Is she's still working at the insurance company for a second,
Speaker 4: like I saw, like we saw something Lauri.
Speaker 3: Yes, No, she has not, and probably I don't know.
Speaker 2: Now, but I met then season two.
Speaker 3: Was she Well, it's funny because there was. If I'm
Speaker 3: not mistaken, I think she came out one time and
Speaker 3: said that she never really worked there, it was just
Speaker 3: for cameras.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 4: Well, Laurie tells us that her life has taken a
Speaker 4: three hundred and sixty turn since her blind date with
Speaker 4: her now boyfriend George. Laurie says this relationship has taken
Speaker 4: a huge load off her shoulders.
Speaker 2: Not good news, though.
Speaker 4: Lorie's son Josh has taken a turn for the worst
Speaker 4: and he is two hours away from oc getting treatment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Laurie's Richigan.
Speaker 2: George is a good guy. Are they still together? Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're still together?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we saw he was there at bravocan.
Speaker 2: I don't think I saw Laurie at Bravo.
Speaker 3: Con Oh the first after the Big Ball or whatever
Speaker 3: was Yeah, yeah, you weren't there. She was at the bar,
Speaker 3: the restaurant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Bravos. She was at the Bravos. I didn't
Speaker 2: see her.
Speaker 4: But I love that she's still married because I was
Speaker 4: hoping that wasn't just for a little baby storyline.
Speaker 3: But now I know they've been married a long time,
Speaker 3: and I mean her son's problems. I don't think she
Speaker 3: ever thought that showing them on TV that they would
Speaker 3: be as big as they are today. I don't know
Speaker 3: where he's at, but he's had a pretty tough life.
Speaker 2: She raises, She raises his chah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I you know, MY thoughts go out to
Speaker 4: their family. I hope you know any of those kind
Speaker 4: of struggles. It's really difficult, but I'm glad that she's
Speaker 4: in a happy marriage and she has a support team,
Speaker 4: and hopefully things will get better.
Speaker 3: We already talked about this.
Speaker 2: We already. Yeah, we're moving right over to Vicky's mom talking.
Speaker 3: Because Vicky's mom is the whole show. Rest in peace.
Speaker 3: She Joanna, she was Joanne was so funny, and she
Speaker 3: used to bust Vicki's balls all the time. I mean,
Speaker 3: look at yourn, look at your wrinkles on your face.
Speaker 2: You need to get that.
Speaker 4: I need a lot.
Speaker 2: But then she's like, I don't believe in botoks. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're contradicting yourself.
Speaker 3: Wait, and her mom said she doesn't believe in botox.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But then she's like, oh, I can see a wrinkle
Speaker 5: she's But I love when Vicki thinks I'm mean to her.
Speaker 5: If I don't agree with her, I go, oh, wow,
Speaker 5: nothing's changed.
Speaker 2: Join the club.
Speaker 4: I also love that at this point in time, the
Speaker 4: eyelashes the what those are like the fresh new thing
Speaker 4: that everybody's getting.
Speaker 2: I was, they're like they're big over in Europe lash extensions.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even remember what they were called. But then
Speaker 2: we actually get a group setting.
Speaker 4: But this is something we already talked about to say
Speaker 4: goodbye to Kimberly, but that I think was one of
Speaker 4: our only group settings.
Speaker 2: Then we get Joe and Slade going out for a
Speaker 2: date night.
Speaker 4: I feel like their date nights are what nightmares are
Speaker 4: made of.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, why are they always saying they're gonna have.
Speaker 3: We are working on trusting each other again. I'm sure
Speaker 3: that Playbo party really helped out with the trust.
Speaker 2: And saying that you're not coming home and you're sleeping out.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that Slade and he was so desperate. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's almost embarrassing, like a little bit.
Speaker 4: Well, I also thought, like, I mean, it made it
Speaker 4: very clear in any confessionals that she had always had
Speaker 4: to hustle really hard financially to make ends meet, and
Speaker 4: he's helping her.
Speaker 2: But I mean, as her friend poignantly.
Speaker 4: Pointed out, like you're doing all this for the financial
Speaker 4: and you're not enjoying yourself.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what control you?
Speaker 3: She said before him, I had to work three jobs
Speaker 3: and I had my own place. Well, guess what, sweetie,
Speaker 3: if you would have married him, he would be at
Speaker 3: home and you'd be working three jobs.
Speaker 4: You'd still have three jobs, He'd still have three jobs.
Speaker 4: But then he at Slade asked her if there were guys. Yes,
Speaker 4: there are guys, rich handsome guys, and Slade says he's
Speaker 4: worried she'll run off with some Hollywood guy.
Speaker 2: Joe says she has a boyfriend, so she wouldn't cheat.
Speaker 4: However, and one of the other upcoming episodes we watch,
Speaker 4: they see a cute guy and they say, oh, he
Speaker 4: doesn't he has a ring on, and they're like, who cares.
Speaker 3: But I love when Slade says to her he will
Speaker 3: always be there for her no matter what happens, and
Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, after he brings Lori and then moves
Speaker 3: on to the new housewife bretchin next season.
Speaker 4: I mean, if I wanted to, if I wanted to
Speaker 4: watch people actively hate each other as much as Joe
Speaker 4: and Slade, I would just go back and watch this
Speaker 4: season of Potomac again like they have. I don't even
Speaker 4: see their chemistry. I don't see it at I think he's.
Speaker 3: Holding on like he wants this, and she's like, dude, bro, no,
Speaker 3: it's not happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that's pretty much. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Thanks for the free ride.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the free ride.
Speaker 3: I'm off I'd have I'd rather have three jobs and
Speaker 3: date you.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 4: I'd rather just have anyone tell me it's a better
Speaker 4: idea to be somewhere else, and I'm going to take that.
Speaker 2: Because then we get to the second episode. This is
Speaker 2: where it gets juicy.
Speaker 4: The first episode, I was like, I feel like this
Speaker 4: is kind of just a recap.
Speaker 2: Definitely better than first season.
Speaker 4: Yes, but for second episode is better than first episode
Speaker 4: because first episode it was just housekeeping. Yeah, it was like, yes,
Speaker 4: they were going to keep get us up to date
Speaker 4: on what we forgot about from the season before. It's
Speaker 4: titled be Nice to the New Girl. This air January
Speaker 4: twenty third of two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: Jeez.
Speaker 4: We also should point out that Joe was twenty six
Speaker 4: this season, and the rest of the ladies were in
Speaker 4: their forties slash fifties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was kind of I mean, that's a jig.
Speaker 3: She didn't really fit in.
Speaker 2: But if you notice, there's not a lot of group stuff.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 3: I think this season is when we start getting into
Speaker 3: more of the group stuff. At first, it just documenting
Speaker 3: your family life, which I like, I like.
Speaker 2: I like what's going on.
Speaker 4: But I'm excited for once you come in obviously and
Speaker 4: really stirsh it up. But the synopsis of this episode
Speaker 4: is Joe gets acclimated to her new found financial independence.
Speaker 4: Laurie has a fabulous time on her holiday with George.
Speaker 2: Oh you're still married. I feel so excited. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: he's he's a really good guy.
Speaker 4: Joe got a new job as a title rep. Joe says,
Speaker 4: she finally feels like she has independence.
Speaker 2: She says that. Slade says, Joe works for his.
Speaker 4: Company, so he will make sure she will become very
Speaker 4: successful his company.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm confused by. Help me, help me.
Speaker 3: This isn't I'm not buying that for our heart for
Speaker 3: one second.
Speaker 4: But I don't think working for your boyfriend's company. Let's
Speaker 4: say that's what it is screams independent.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a lie. I don't think he
Speaker 3: ever had his own company.
Speaker 4: And then if he did have his own company, how
Speaker 4: come he didn't know that there was an opening in
Speaker 4: the Beverly Hills office or the LA office or whatever
Speaker 4: it was they talked about later on the episode. And
Speaker 4: then this is where we get into more of Seeing
Speaker 4: Duff when Vicky loses it about her trip not having
Speaker 4: Wi Fi so she can't work.
Speaker 3: Well, here's a breaking news, Vicky. Call first before you
Speaker 3: book your cruise and see if they have Internet, instead
Speaker 3: of be rating and being rude to the person on
Speaker 3: the other side of the font, like what is.
Speaker 2: That person going to do? Like you clearly, let me
Speaker 2: get a tower.
Speaker 3: Let me just get you an Internet tower, Wi Fi tower,
Speaker 3: whatever it is, I'll just put it.
Speaker 2: On the boat for you.
Speaker 4: I mean, I could think of very few things I
Speaker 4: want to do less than beyond stuck on a cruise
Speaker 4: with Vicky.
Speaker 2: But any who.
Speaker 4: They Vicky is trying to get everything organized, from the
Speaker 4: dog walker to the small mini van.
Speaker 2: That who gets one of those?
Speaker 4: I would venture to think that whoever was on the
Speaker 4: other end of that customer service line never wanted to
Speaker 4: talk to VICKI.
Speaker 3: Again, I know most people don't.
Speaker 4: Then my next question is when we get to Laurie
Speaker 4: and her boyfriend George on their europe vacation in Santope.
Speaker 2: Did they go film that or is that looks like it?
Speaker 3: It looks like it was filmed, But why did they
Speaker 3: not get the proposal?
Speaker 4: Maybe they only went out for a couple of days
Speaker 4: or were because I was thinking, I mean, can you
Speaker 4: get that good of film footage from your sidekick or
Speaker 4: your nochio?
Speaker 3: I'm wondering, did they didn't have? When did iPhone come out?
Speaker 4: Definitely not then, because I was taking a gander at everybody.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it did, because I kind of remember
Speaker 3: getting one. I don't right in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: I remember getting one listen.
Speaker 4: I was late to that party because I never wanted
Speaker 4: to give up my bb and my Blackberrysinger. I loved
Speaker 4: it so much. I didn't even care about the photos.
Speaker 4: But they're on their trips. She's buying clothes. There's no
Speaker 4: iPhone yet because it is filmed in two thousand and six,
Speaker 4: so that's the problem. But somebody was filming. Somebody was filming.
Speaker 4: Joe and Slade have been invited to a charity event
Speaker 4: in La. Joe wishes they live somewhere fast paced. They
Speaker 4: talk about the the Orange Gates again. There's in a
Speaker 4: shocking turn of events, there's a an intuitive or a
Speaker 4: psychic Oh, and they did.
Speaker 2: They decide that. Of course they're going to have a
Speaker 2: chat about it.
Speaker 4: And what do you think? She says, you don't even
Speaker 4: have to watch the episode to know what she's going
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 2: Get rid of the I think she actually moved to La. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think she just watched the first season and didn't
Speaker 4: even have to do a reading. She was just like,
Speaker 4: run as fast as you can way from Slade. Yes.
Speaker 4: Then Vicky says she and don don't don't know each
Speaker 4: other like a married couple because they're so busy. Vicky
Speaker 4: wonders if they still like each other at the end
Speaker 4: of the day. But then on the cruise, even though
Speaker 4: they have six people, twelve bags plus the carry on,
Speaker 4: the minivan arrives, chaos ensues, Vicky screaming at everyone.
Speaker 2: Van when do you ever even bring a family band?
Speaker 2: The big up six peop.
Speaker 3: I mean that is an iconic line still surface today.
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear my conspiracy theory? Yes, the
Speaker 2: person in charge of.
Speaker 4: Sending that mini van people no, was actually the person
Speaker 4: on the other end of the customer for the.
Speaker 3: C Yeah. Would you could you imagine going on a
Speaker 3: cruise for two weeks?
Speaker 2: Two and a half weeks? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Not.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because she goes, we're going on a
Speaker 3: cruise and a half weeks, and then in her confessional
Speaker 3: she goes, we're going on a ten day cruise, like
Speaker 3: a little exaggeration there.
Speaker 2: She has a way about the truth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then we're back to George and Laurie, where money
Speaker 4: has obviously changed everything.
Speaker 2: That's what the narrator says. They get engaged.
Speaker 4: I don't know that we even need to continue on
Speaker 4: for that, because we need to get into.
Speaker 2: Some of the additional hard hitting facts of this episode.
Speaker 2: So we are introduced more to Tammy Knickerbocker. Is that
Speaker 2: her name, Tammy Nickerbucker. What is the backstory?
Speaker 4: Because they show like the dramatic gate closing, she was
Speaker 4: married before there was an affair that happened and yeah, everything.
Speaker 3: Tammy was married to Lou, who was much older than her,
Speaker 3: and they had one of the biggest houses in Coder Decaza. Lou,
Speaker 3: we will say, passes away, we find out on the show,
Speaker 3: but she just I don't know how they lost their money.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how he gained his money. But
Speaker 3: her whole, her life had kind of just been a
Speaker 3: little spirally. After all that, she moved into a house.
Speaker 3: The house flooded, so it was just a mess.
Speaker 4: So she moved into the house, the house blooded. So
Speaker 4: this is the part where I was a little bit
Speaker 4: lost because we saw her baby daddy working at the
Speaker 4: insurance company. I didn't know he was anywhere tied to
Speaker 4: Tammy Knickerbocker. But then we realized that Gina is actually
Speaker 4: friends with Tammy. She's the one getting her into a
Speaker 4: new house. Also, Vicky appeared to be flirting with Doug
Speaker 4: Duff Duff and then Duff is there with Tammy and
Speaker 4: their like four year old son, and they still have
Speaker 4: sexual chemistry, friends with benefits something along that Nat.
Speaker 3: I think they remain friends forever.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Those gates to Tammy's giant house and Coda are the
Speaker 3: gates that they show on the intro of the show.
Speaker 2: But is that the gates to code or that's the gates.
Speaker 4: To that's the gates to her house, not the house
Speaker 4: that flooded the other house.
Speaker 3: The other house, yes, the house that she lived in
Speaker 3: with her ex husband or yeah they were divorced.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then before we get into Tammy's birthday, we get
Speaker 4: some real life things with Gina and her kids, which listen,
Speaker 4: Colton said some really offensive things this episode, like things
Speaker 4: you no longer say during that time.
Speaker 3: The reason why he said that is because there was
Speaker 3: a lot of rumors at the time that his brother
Speaker 3: was gay, so he was I think he knew that
Speaker 3: that bothered him and he just went for it.
Speaker 2: But I can't say my heart kind of broke breaks
Speaker 2: for Colton.
Speaker 3: Like Colton has always been the good boy all.
Speaker 2: He doesn't ever seem like he's other than.
Speaker 4: In that moment when he was like extremely provoked and
Speaker 4: like his brother just seems like such. And I know
Speaker 4: he's a kid, but at this point, I think he's
Speaker 4: twenty years old, so I think I'm allowed to discuss
Speaker 4: his behavior.
Speaker 2: She just seems like such an ass.
Speaker 4: And even the dad, who I don't understand where the
Speaker 4: dad's always traveling to makes a comment like listen, you know,
Speaker 4: unless you're a pro player with you know, making tons
Speaker 4: of money, you don't wear diamonds that big in your
Speaker 4: ears and your interviews.
Speaker 3: But I just it gets worse, It gets way worse.
Speaker 4: Even the scene where the Gina's daughter is upset because
Speaker 4: she thinks her toenail polish is ruined, and they're like,
Speaker 4: this is a level. I mean, granted, my sister and
Speaker 4: I got in a fight growing up and she tried
Speaker 4: to beat my door down with a.
Speaker 2: Pro bar, so like I know about sibling fighting, but.
Speaker 3: My brother chastes me with an AX.
Speaker 4: So it just funny because think about how we parent now,
Speaker 4: Think about how we parent now.
Speaker 3: Like Dove, I don't even know how I survived.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, we drank out of hoses, there was
Speaker 4: no filtered water.
Speaker 2: We played, we played outside, We played outside, We rode
Speaker 2: our bikes to school. We got tattoos underage. Like now,
Speaker 2: it's like here, we pierced our own ears.
Speaker 4: We pierced our belly buttons, and then they would get
Speaker 4: infected and then we just keep piercing them again for
Speaker 4: them to continuously get infected.
Speaker 2: But know what we didn't do. We didn't date.
Speaker 4: Dog dealers and get ginormous ass tattoos on our backs
Speaker 4: and not show up.
Speaker 2: To that dog breeder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we got Bronx. Yep, that's where we
Speaker 3: got Bronks.
Speaker 2: He's actually a dog breeder. I thought that was code
Speaker 2: for like.
Speaker 3: No, No, he was a dry He bred pit bulls.
Speaker 3: Him and Megan bred pit bulls for a while, and
Speaker 3: they gave one of the pit bulls to Ryan and
Speaker 3: so Ryan had it. Had Bronx for a year or so,
Speaker 3: and then he moved into an apartment and you can't
Speaker 3: have pit bulls in an apartment, so Eddie took him.
Speaker 4: Okay, So this relationship that we're seeing right now between
Speaker 4: Megan and the dog breeder goes on for a long time.
Speaker 2: I don't know how long, but because he's thirty six
Speaker 2: and she's.
Speaker 3: Howled twenty two twenty.
Speaker 2: She was she was young.
Speaker 4: But I'm loving Tammy. I don't know how many seasons
Speaker 4: is she going to be on.
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 3: I think two.
Speaker 2: I film with her one year.
Speaker 4: Okay, so all right, so tuas but she seems pretty open.
Speaker 4: She talks about her hardships openly. You can see that
Speaker 4: she's bummed out that her daughters aren't even showing up
Speaker 4: to her birthday dinner. Then they do show up and
Speaker 4: they're you know, they need a sig. There's no sigh
Speaker 4: on the tattoos.
Speaker 2: There's not an ash tray when she was fifteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I want to know who goes to Bangkok
Speaker 3: to get tattoos removed.
Speaker 4: I think they were just giving a hypothetical location that
Speaker 4: might have a cheaper than laser way over in the
Speaker 4: codo to cause the adjacent area.
Speaker 3: Well, the ticket to fly to Bancock might be a
Speaker 3: little expensive.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that Tammy's mom and UH was really
Speaker 4: thinking that through.
Speaker 3: I think I don't ever even remember Tammy's mom.
Speaker 2: How could you forget her? I don't think that she
Speaker 2: filmed much.
Speaker 4: Oh well, that's a shame because then they go to
Speaker 4: celebrate the birthday in Vegas. It's Tammy's first birthday and
Speaker 4: twenty five years that she is single.
Speaker 2: Megan and Roman Roman. That's Roman Roman. They go out to.
Speaker 4: Get more tattoos. Megan got her first tattoo and she
Speaker 4: was fifteen. I think I was even younger. Mine was
Speaker 4: very small though, but then Megan got them at first
Speaker 4: to upset her parents. Megan got the Iron Cross kennel logo.
Speaker 2: Oh Bronx logo.
Speaker 4: All coming together, Tammy says she is branded now and
Speaker 4: questions what she'll do if they break up. Tammy wants
Speaker 4: to take Megan to get them removed. Megan tells her
Speaker 4: to get over it.
Speaker 3: You know, Tammy's the reason why I went by Tamar
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 2: Cause you were you were Tammy Sue before I grew up.
Speaker 3: When I was born, I was named Tamra Sue Wattle,
Speaker 3: so I know, right. And then when I got the show,
Speaker 3: Tammy was on it and they were concerned about us
Speaker 3: having the same name. So I was like, well, you
Speaker 3: can just call me by my birth name, Tamra.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, Tama feels so formal for you.
Speaker 4: Can I start calling you Tammy now?
Speaker 2: Yes, tam, Let's just call me tam.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, I do call you Tam, but I
Speaker 4: wouldn't mind a little bit of Tammy, like when I'm upset,
Speaker 4: like Tammy Tammy.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see, maybe that should be my storyline this year.
Speaker 3: I'm going to change my name back.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you could be like Rachel Roquel. Yes,
Speaker 2: Oh that's what I'm doing. Yeah, because my mom still
Speaker 2: calls me Actually.
Speaker 4: You kind of are like Rachel Roquel because no, I'm
Speaker 4: kind of not, because you have created a new identity
Speaker 4: for yourself by using your original name.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to come in a softer, sweeter Tammy.
Speaker 2: Softer sweeter. I'd like you to start calling me Tammy sooner.
Speaker 4: Did you notice that Roman wore his sunglasses everywhere but
Speaker 4: on his eyes.
Speaker 2: Do you think we needed to let him know they
Speaker 2: actually go here, they go right here.
Speaker 4: Trendsetter is, oh no, then we get back into poor Colton.
Speaker 4: They don't even know that he needs the right kind
Speaker 4: of bat. Granted, I didn't know Slade had a soccer
Speaker 4: game today, and I have eighty two frantic text messages Mom,
Speaker 4: I forgot my cleats and my thing because you told
Speaker 4: me there was a soccer game. To I'm like there
Speaker 4: is a soccer game tomorrow.
Speaker 2: She's like, there's also one today. Oh, I'm like like
Speaker 2: right after school. Yes, I'm like, I have till three
Speaker 2: o'clock to get it there. I don't need to have
Speaker 2: six sacks. Just relax, acts.
Speaker 4: I see the messaging that you're sending. I will meet
Speaker 4: you at your game by two forty five with all
Speaker 4: of your items. And she's like, I bill dressed. Everybody
Speaker 4: else is wearing their uniform today.
Speaker 2: Oh god. I checked with another.
Speaker 4: Mom and she told me as well that there wasn't
Speaker 4: till tomorrow. But apparently there was a rescheduled game. But anyhow,
Speaker 4: they don't have the right back for Colton. Colton says
Speaker 4: the pressure to play baseball in the family gets higher
Speaker 4: and higher every year.
Speaker 2: Then Gina drops the little ball. She says that she
Speaker 2: thinks Colton's the most talented and you can only imagine
Speaker 2: Shane watching that shit back. And she also said he
Speaker 2: was the golden child. I believe you know what, He's
Speaker 2: my golden child. After that, yes, so sweet? Do you
Speaker 2: hear him say he.
Speaker 3: Like stutters because he tries to talk fast because because.
Speaker 2: His brother said me to him, Shane's mean to him.
Speaker 4: And Also, Shane, you don't have anything else to do
Speaker 4: but torture your brother when you're on this. I also
Speaker 4: want to see the X rays.
Speaker 3: Well. I want to see all the kids have grown up. Shane,
Speaker 3: I just saw was married in the past year. He
Speaker 3: was his brother was wrong.
Speaker 4: But do you think that they're putting too much pressure
Speaker 4: on Colton? And also where is the dad? Always because
Speaker 4: he said if dad would just come back, but where Oh.
Speaker 3: Dad passed away a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: But they also I didn't realize until this season that
Speaker 4: not only did his dad did Colton and Shane's dad
Speaker 4: play baseball, but so did the grandpa.
Speaker 2: So there is a huge you know, there is a pressure.
Speaker 4: But now I need to know did either of them
Speaker 4: make it, Shane or Colton in baseball?
Speaker 3: No, neither one did.
Speaker 4: It's like me and my I never became a wrong
Speaker 4: guess what, guys leave a hot tip here.
Speaker 2: I never became a rock star.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I never became a pop star, became nothing. Now I
Speaker 2: just talk about housewives from two thousand and seven. I'm
Speaker 2: a twat star. That's as close as I'm gonna get.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all you got.
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