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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, August seventh, twenty twenty four. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're checking the

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Speaker 1: weather for Canton. To me your man, NAMG Marcus Grand

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Speaker 1: joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan joneson do the

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Speaker 1: Avengers have a symbol? Yes? All here, We're all here.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I could see you, I know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: LaQuan is always here because he's doing good morning football.

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Speaker 1: But Florio and I have you know, tend to sit

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Speaker 1: around in basketball shorts and socks and stuff before. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe do something to the hair. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: not even a guarantee. But we're all here today. It's

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Speaker 1: all nice to be back in person. We got a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about. We're going to dive into our

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Speaker 1: division preview with the NFC South today. Uh so we

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Speaker 1: will talk about those four teams there. So I let's

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Speaker 1: start with Brandon Ayuk. And let me just preface this

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Speaker 1: by saying, we are recording this on August seventh at

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Speaker 1: ten am Pacific time, right, that is when we are

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Speaker 1: recording this show. So who knows what's going to happen

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Speaker 1: in the interim. By the time this thing is released.

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Speaker 1: By the time it gets to your ears, we don't know,

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Speaker 1: but as of this moment, it would appear that the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and Pittsburgh Steelers are very much engaged

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Speaker 1: in trade negotiations. For Brandon Ayuk to get to Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers would then have to sign him to a

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Speaker 1: new contract or a contract extension rather, and then there's

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Speaker 1: some compensation coming back the other way. There has been rumor,

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Speaker 1: there has been innuendo for all of us, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: really really concrete. For Lakwan, he is rejoicing at the

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Speaker 1: idea of Brandon Ayuk being out of the division right now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but I mean legitimately OQ. Just from a football and

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Speaker 1: a fantasy standpoint, Let's talk on the idea of Brandon

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Speaker 1: I being a Pittsburgh Steeler. I've he steps into the

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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver spot. There will he be or

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Speaker 1: can he be as productive with Russell Wilson or justin

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Speaker 1: fields at quarterback as he was in Kyle Shanahan's offense

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Speaker 1: with brock Perty.

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Speaker 2: I think so, man. I won't say he'll be a

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Speaker 2: better situation, but it'll be a nice lateral situation where

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Speaker 2: he could still be efficient he can still be productive.

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Speaker 2: He'll be the number one there. And I think the

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Speaker 2: Steelers honestly need this help at the wide receiver cord

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Speaker 2: because you got a bunch of just guys there after

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Speaker 2: George Pickens and George Pickens, we already have our questions

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Speaker 2: with if he's going to be able to produce at

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Speaker 2: the full potential that we know that this offense honestly

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Speaker 2: needs a star wide receiver. Losing Deontay Johnson, you're losing

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Speaker 2: somebody that can separate you. Bringing somebody like Brandon Aiyuk

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Speaker 2: that's one of the elite separators. This helps his team

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Speaker 2: a ton. So I'm in on it for fantasy man.

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Speaker 2: I'm really liking it for Russell.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how are you feeling about Ayuke before this

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Speaker 1: Florio and does this changes go up or down for you?

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Speaker 3: I'm probably more bullish on Ayuke then I think others

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Speaker 3: might be. I have him as a wide receiver one.

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Speaker 3: I think I I'm pulling up right now. I believe

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Speaker 3: I have him in my top ten. I know I

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Speaker 3: have him ahead of Devant. Yeah, he's tenth for me.

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Speaker 3: I have him ahead of London and Adams and Collins

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Speaker 3: and big names like that. So because of that, I

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Speaker 3: have drafted a lot of him already, so so and

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Speaker 3: my number one value wide receiver in my article, and

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Speaker 3: one of the players I've drafted the most is George

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Speaker 3: Pickens because I personally think like a huge breakout is

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Speaker 3: coming with Russell Wilson. We know that, uh he could

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Speaker 3: advantage of that. But it would depend if Pickens is

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Speaker 4: Because we've heard rules.

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Speaker 3: If he's not in the trade and Auke goes there,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit soured on both of them because

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Speaker 3: I don't think I Uke no offense to Russ or

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Speaker 4: So now if he's not.

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Speaker 3: Getting that huge bump in volume, then I think I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think so that is the room.

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Speaker 1: Right Again, none of this is is solidified as we

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Speaker 2: How did does he fit that's like that, like that

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that fits over there.

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Speaker 1: In the room. Yeah, I mean I think I think

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Speaker 1: maybe just the prospect of being on a team that

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh has a standard, right, the Steelers have been a

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Speaker 1: I know all of that. But the Niners really are

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the thing that sort of gets George Pickens

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Speaker 1: to Brandon Ayuk at all he can do.

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Speaker 3: He could play a similar role I think of like

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Speaker 3: the field stretcher and the one that helps create space

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Speaker 1: But I don't.

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Speaker 3: So this is why I say, I don't think you

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Speaker 3: going back since targets have become a stat in nineteen

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Speaker 1: Wow, So like it was off the chart of fishing.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing, Like even this year in San

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Speaker 3: Franzi's gonna have a tough time repeating that. But if

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Speaker 3: you put him now on another offense where he doesn't

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Speaker 3: have all of the other playmakers, and specifically Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 3: who I still think is underrated as a play caller,

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Speaker 3: Like I think that there's question, there's concerns.

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Speaker 4: At least, whereas now we don't have those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just gonna be it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: an interesting fit. And you know, chances are we're not

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Speaker 1: you've got Christian McCaffrey, who's also dealing with a little

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Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you about that is that.

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Speaker 1: How do you well?

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Speaker 4: One every forty nine er? It seems like it's heart

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Speaker 1: The whole team just got hurt with the rams man.

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Speaker 1: They all got hurt. Yeah, I can't say anything.

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Speaker 4: Oh, are you guys downgrading CMC at all?

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Speaker 1: I am? I am?

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Speaker 2: Are you I am? But not by much. I'm putting

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Speaker 2: bijon at one. But okay, we'll get to that later.

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Speaker 1: But and You're not the only person I've seen say that, right,

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Speaker 1: And so I guess for me, I guess because the

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Speaker 4: Someone asked me last night, like, are you downgrading him?

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Speaker 3: I was like, probably, I'll probably go like ceedee lamb

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Speaker 3: or tyreek Hill over him the first day, But that's.

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Speaker 1: About moving it from like one to two. Yeah, exactly

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Speaker 1: know at that point that's not really a down. So

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Speaker 1: uh So the answer is no, I'm not. This feels

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Speaker 1: like some you know, Kawhi Leonard James Harden load management

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Speaker 1: He did he did I don't know if it's the same.

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Speaker 1: like he wasn't gonna play preseason, and you know he's

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Speaker 1: the ball three hundred plus times. He's gonna he's gonna

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Speaker 2: It does make me feel good to go pick up

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Speaker 2: Jordan Mason. I'm gonna be banging that drum for a

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Speaker 2: from Jordan Mason. He's been my underdog guy. Like I

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Speaker 2: love to see the guys that don't get mentioned much

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Speaker 1: It's all fun and games until Matt Brida has one hundred.

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Speaker 5: There's so many put that in the drafted and like

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Speaker 5: no one is talking. That's what I'm saying at all,

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Speaker 5: all right, So there he goes. That's our Brandon Ayuk chatter.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it stays semi semi static until we get this

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Speaker 1: podcast out, but knowing our look, it won't anyway. It

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Speaker 1: is time now to drive your draft, presented by the

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Speaker 1: all new hybrid Toyota Camry. We have officially hit the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Last week was the Hall of Fame game. It played,

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Speaker 1: you know, didn't even get through four quarters. But now

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Speaker 1: we have a full slate of preseason games. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: three of us will all be in. Can't you maybe

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Speaker 3: Look, the Bills are on NFL networks Saturday afternoon. I

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Speaker 3: hope you guys will and we're locked in. Join me

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Speaker 3: for a day drink.

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Speaker 2: As we watch.

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Speaker 1: Possibly, I know I will be doing the King's Classic

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Speaker 2: We'll be somewhere.

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Speaker 1: If you want to go buy Florio or Laquanta drink,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're not going to say no to that,

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Speaker 1: not tequila. So so let's talk about preseason week one,

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Speaker 1: just sort of in general terms, I mean, Florida. When

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Speaker 1: when you were sitting down to watch these games, how

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Speaker 1: on NFL network, all of them, they will all be

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Speaker 1: on NFL network at some point. What sorts of things

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Speaker 3: I care about opportunities like if the starting quarterback and

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Speaker 3: o linemen and all that are out there for one drive,

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Speaker 3: I care about what receivers and running backs are used

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Speaker 3: probably don't want that player going off in preseason because

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Speaker 3: then their price is just gonna go up. Or you know,

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Speaker 3: this will always happen, like someone will have one big

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Speaker 3: and I don't care, Like, yes, if I'm excited about

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Speaker 3: a guy because they're very explosive and he shows that,

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Speaker 3: I get excited. But more than anything, I think what

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Speaker 3: we should be paying attention to is snaps and targets

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Speaker 3: and how opportunities distributed with the starters.

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Speaker 1: Any anything else that you have your eye on for this.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just going to follow that. It's always about opportunities.

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Speaker 2: Like you love your guys coming out of the draft.

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Speaker 2: what they look like. And it's definitely impressive that they're

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Speaker 1: If you don't see me next week, you understand what happened.

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Speaker 1: I'll take Kirk Cousins kind of kick. Have you? Have

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Speaker 1: you made a case for yourself LaQuan about drafting Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I can't say that I've drafted a

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Speaker 2: for him in Chicago but it just never really panned

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00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 2: out for whatever reason. But I think he still has

434
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 2: some type of you know, play in him where he

435
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 2: can be relevant some weeks, but it will most likely

436
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 2: be weeks where he's on your bench. But I feel like,

437
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: you know, best ball drafts go ahead and he's a

438
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 2: vibes pick for me?

439
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 1: How about you? There? Is it Mooney or Bust or

440
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 1: is there somebody else there? It's Mooney and Mooney.

441
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 3: I agree with LQ like he's a best ball guy

442
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: because they play a lot of indoor games and because

443
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 3: he he has that downfield capability. But for redraft, I

444
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 3: don't want any part of him because I think it's

445
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 3: going to be inconsistent week to week. Although when they

446
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 3: signed him, I thinking was like they're trying to recreate

447
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 3: kind of like the discounted version of what Cousins had

448
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 3: in Minnesota. Like Drake London, is your discounted justin Jefferson,

449
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts, is you're discounted Hockinson, and then Mooney is

450
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 3: discount Jordan Addison probably with a lot less trouble.

451
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that is probably probably fair. I don't

452
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: think I have drafted a single third piece, at least

453
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: pass catcher, you know. Yeah, Yeah, obviously we're drafting Bjean

454
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: or drafting Pits.

455
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 2: Because Bejon might end up being that second or third option.

456
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: If we're going to be honest, I mean, you really

457
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: might be the third, the third passion. Yeah, he should be. Yeah,

458
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: which gives me to my next question, though, Florio, should

459
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: we be concerned that Tyler Algier is lurking? I mean, look,

460
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: I know it was one thing when it was Arthur

461
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 1: Smith and he was doing weird things and giving algebra,

462
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: But he's shown that he could be productive with opportunity.

463
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 1: Who's to say that that doesn't that that's gonna change.

464
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like there's still a case for

465
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Algier to go and get some sort of work

466
00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: in this offense.

467
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there certainly is, and I don't think as

468
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 3: excited as we all are for Bijon and stuff like that,

469
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: and I do think we'll see more consistent usage out

470
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: of Bijon. That doesn't mean that Algier is going to

471
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 3: completely go away. The biggest fear is could he be

472
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: utilized near the goal line? And if that is the case,

473
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: that is scary. And I still think Algier right now

474
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: he gets completely overlooked in drafts, and I understand that

475
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 3: most weeks he don't have standalone value, but he is

476
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 3: one of the best handcuffs because if something happens to Bijon,

477
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: we know that this guy can immediately be in RB

478
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 3: two with even more upside. To me, where this comes

479
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 3: in is I go back and forth a lot on

480
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 3: Brice Hall versus Bijeon as RB two, and the fact

481
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: that Bijon has Algier and Brice Hall doesn't often kind

482
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 3: of leads me to put Haul second.

483
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: But I go back and forth. Yeah, I mean, there's

484
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: no clear cut number two in New York behind Prince Hall,

485
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: whereas we know Algiers there and we know what Algier

486
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: can be. I mean in a good rookie season. Lakwana yeah,

487
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: that was my guy. Was my guy rookie season's heart

488
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: was broken. You know. Obviously, obviously if you're drafting Bjon,

489
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: it's nice to sort of get Algier late as that

490
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: sort of insurance piece just in case. But I don't know,

491
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: I can make a case that he will have some

492
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: kind of standalone value at least in deeperly, I agree.

493
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean, the talent is there. I mean, we watched

494
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: the tav and the dude can ball. The dude can

495
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: really play. I mean, his rookie year will definitely be

496
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: remembered in going into these drafts. Like Florio said, he's

497
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: one of the best handcuffs out there, because if anything

498
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: happens to Beijon, you're looking at Tyler Aljier to have

499
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: that same upside and usage in that offense with Zach Robinson,

500
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: who knows how to utilize the running backs. He's from

501
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: the Sean McVay tree, so we obviously know that this

502
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: is going to be a game plan to get that

503
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: running back in the most creative ways to get them

504
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: the ball. And Tyler a Jeer is one of those

505
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: guys that can step up in every opportunity given it

506
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: to him to show up and show out.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I think, you know, I think we're

508
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: all super excited about Bejeon to the point that maybe

509
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: we're sort of forgetting that there's another guy back there

510
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: that can go out and play well if given a chance.

511
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: It's one the Carolina Panthers last year. Not great. Not

512
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: great for the Panthers at all. Other top scorer Bryce

513
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: Young at quarterback one hundred and sixty six and a

514
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: half points. He was the QB twenty three. Cuba Hubbard

515
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: surpassed Miles Sanders to become the RB one one eighty

516
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: two point five. Was this fantasy total that was RB

517
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Adam Feelin like a phoenix rising from the ashes,

518
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: showed up out of nowhere to get you two hundred

519
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: and thirty one fantasy points. The wide receiver seventeen, which

520
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: I think is far above and beyond what anybody had

521
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: predicted for him. And I had to dig a while

522
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: to find who the top tight end was. It was

523
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: always fun. Tommy Trimble sixty point four points. He was

524
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: tied to be tight end thirty nine. It was bleak.

525
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: I think I think he had about one hundred and

526
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: sixty three receiving yards.

527
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: Last year and that's more than me, So I can't hate.

528
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, he outperformed any of us in this room,

529
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: but compared to his tight end peers, it was not great.

530
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: I actually short changed. It was one hundred and ninety

531
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: four twenty three catches and three touchdowns for Tommy t

532
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: three touchdowns all right. In the off season, key losses

533
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: DJ Chark, Laviska Channel, and Hayden Hurst all left Carolina.

534
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: They did acquire Deontay Johnson in a trade. They also

535
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: signed for Shad Penny, who has since retired. Like one

536
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: day he had the quote of like when I'm healthy,

537
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm the best, one of the best backs

538
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: in the league. And then like forty eight hours later

539
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: he was retired.

540
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: He realized that I've been healthy like four days ago.

541
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: Right, So I was just not as a Rams fan, man.

542
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: I gotta say, like two Seahawks running back fortime, Chris

543
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: Carson and Rashad Penny, and I was like huge fans

544
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: of both. Like it's kind of sad seeing his career

545
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: kind of paying out how it's had because he's always

546
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: been that guy that you wanted to root for because

547
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: the talent was there.

548
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Carson was the one that that heard that broke

549
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 3: man was he was a great story.

550
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so all reliable, pouring out forward Shot Penny

551
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: best of Lucky in retirement for him. They also signed

552
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: David Moore. They drafted Xavier Laguette with the thirty second

553
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: pick in the first rounds, but the second round pick

554
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: on Jonathan Brooks and a fourth round pick on tight

555
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: end Jatavian Sanders, and the first Panther off the board,

556
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: it is Jonathan Brooks coming off the acl tair right

557
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: around pick eighty four or so. So it seems like

558
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: a good place to start. Mkwana's put out to you

559
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: sooner or later. Jonathan Brooks is the RB one by

560
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: week eight. Does it happened before or after?

561
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: I want to say after. I'm gonna say after because

562
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that go into drafting Jonathan

563
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: Brooks because we're hoping when he comes back, he's coming

564
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: back to a winning Panthers offense, like an offense that's

565
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: able to put something together, an offense that can drive

566
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: down the field. This O line is protecting Bryce shown,

567
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: This O line is blocking well. I feel like it

568
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: will have to be a slow wall because Tube Hubber

569
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: is going to be already warmed up, and honestly, he's

570
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: a guy that was doing the best he could behind

571
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: that line last year, and I feel like he's still

572
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: a guy that can have something to say in that backfield.

573
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: So I think more so how I've been drafting Jonathan Brooks,

574
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: it's more so like his value has to be like

575
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: great where he falls in these redrafts leagues, and he

576
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 2: has to be like my RB three, RB four, and

577
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: hopefully he can come down hitting the ground run and

578
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: coming back to a playoff team and carries a team

579
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: to the championship. But it's still gonna be a little

580
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: bit wonky this season trying to figure out if he's

581
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: going to be the RB one or not.

582
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: I'm on the exact opposite.

583
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: When I'm here.

584
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: He is my like I'm writing an article. I'm actually

585
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: submitting it today. I submitted it yesterday. Top ten league winners.

586
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: He is my number one league winning kay, I'm bullish

587
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: on him. Let me and this is what I wrote.

588
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: I said, let me take you back to the summer

589
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: of twenty fifteen. You will remember this better than anyone.

590
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: Todd Gurley came back from a twenty He tore his

591
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: ACL in college on November fifteen. Jonathan Brooks tore his

592
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: on November eleventh, Todd Gurley missed the first two weeks

593
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: of the season, got eased in the third game, and

594
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: then ran for thirteen hundred and ten.

595
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 4: Touchdowns after that.

596
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Brooks is gonna give you thirteen to ten,

597
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: but I think that timeline can be very similar where

598
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: he's maybe out the first couple of weeks, but if

599
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: he's not got back by week eight, I'm gonna be

600
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: struggling in fantasy because I'm drafting him in a whole

601
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: bunch of leagues because I think I think like weeks three, four,

602
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: maybe on he could come in and take over. And

603
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: he was the only running back taking in the first

604
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: two rounds with them knowing that he was coming off

605
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 3: of a torn acl And I think so much of

606
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: what can get that Panthers offense to be what you

607
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: want is Jonathan Brooks because if you have that dynamic,

608
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: explosive running back who can be used as a pass

609
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: catcher as well, now that's another weapon you have to

610
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: worry about, and it just makes life easier on Bryce

611
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: Young and Dave canal Is. The last two years has

612
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: gotten top twey running backs like Kenneth Walker had a

613
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: good year two years ago under when he was he

614
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: was the quarterback coach there, but he was involved in

615
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: that offense. And then last year we saw Rashad White

616
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: top five fantasy running back and they were peppering him

617
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: with targets. So I'm hopeful that that could be Jonathan

618
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: Brooks and I've taken him as my RB two or

619
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 3: three in drafts. Obviously where I wait, but I love

620
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: that you could get his upside in rounds like eight

621
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: nine of drafts, and because of that, I'm drafting him

622
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: in a lot of leads.

623
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: I've drafted him in a ton of places. I'm gonna

624
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: say he takes over slightly before Week eight, not a lot.

625
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he plays early and I think

626
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: they sort of ease him in, but I think by

627
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: the time we hit the midway point of the season,

628
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: I think he will have pushed Chuba Hubbard to the

629
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: RB two spot. And I think we're all sort of

630
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: agreed the reason you're drafting him is because you're expecting

631
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: late in the season for him to take over. That's

632
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: why he's been a great best ball pick, because that's why,

633
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: that's when you want these guys to really start to

634
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: up their game. So I think that's gonna happen. I

635
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: think when healthy, he is by far the best back

636
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: on this roster. It's just a matter of when he

637
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: gets finally healthy and when they feel confident. To your point, though,

638
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: the quad, I think there's some concern that, you know,

639
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: if the Panthers are bad again, Yeah, how many opportunities he.

640
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: Gets to be important?

641
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: It will it be? Will it be targets, will it

642
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: be carries? So that's that's some sort of a thing

643
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, I mean they'll be improved.

644
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful for there's still still some building. I'm hopeful

645
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: for next year for sure.

646
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: Uh Florida more or less five receiving touchdowns for Deontay

647
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: Johnson and Carolina. I'm gonna say more. Maybe this is wishcast.

648
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: Look, Deontay Johnson one of my favorite values of any

649
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: position this year, and I understand that scoring touchdowns has

650
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: been something that hasn't always been in his wheelhouse. But

651
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: I put this out on Twitter the other day. Uh,

652
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: Bryce Young had the eighth highest completion rate last year

653
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: when his receivers were deemed open.

654
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: It just barely happened.

655
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: Uh, Deontay Johnson gets open at one of the best

656
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: rates in the NFL. He is still one of the

657
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: best separators. And Dave canal is multiple times this summer

658
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: when they've been asked him like what do we have

659
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: to do to see Bryce Young get better? Feed Deontay Johnson,

660
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: Like he even said, He's like, when we snapped the ball,

661
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: the first thing in like going through his head should

662
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: be like who is open and where is Deonton? So

663
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: to me, I'm like, this guy's gonna get one hundred

664
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: and fifty targets easily, and I think he'll be look Sanders,

665
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: the tight end there scares me a little bit. But

666
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: outside of that, who's gonna like, even in the red zone,

667
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: who's gonna be the guys stealing targets from him?

668
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: So I'll go with over there, all right.

669
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over to and be optimistic because, honestly,

670
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: looking at the Panthers offense last year, as bad as

671
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: it was, they actually executed in the red zone. Half

672
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: of the time they in their drives. They were dead

673
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: last in red zone drives, but in those opportunities they

674
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: were able to score and execute. So I feel like

675
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: now that you have somebody that can get open, create separation.

676
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: And we know Deontay Johnson isn't a guy that's always

677
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: in the end zone. But once upon a time with

678
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: a broken bad Big Ben, he had like seven eight touchdowns.

679
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: So I feel like this is the bar that we

680
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: could put Deontay Johnson in. And looking at Adam Thielon

681
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: last year in the red zone had four touchdowns and

682
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: all of them came in the red zone. So obviously

683
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Bryce Young is able to execute in areas and field

684
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: where it matters most, and I think that's where Deontay

685
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: Johnson will shine as well.

686
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make

687
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: it unanimous. I'm going more than five for cross the board.

688
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: I just know, I just I think I think he's

689
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a target hog.

690
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: Yes, offense, Why is his ADP not reflecting like it?

691
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Know what, let's just be goying. It makes no sense

692
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: because Deontay is every fantasy analysts like favorite receiver. Right,

693
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: we talk about how he's a target monster, he's a

694
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: route runner, he gets open, blah blah blah. But then

695
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: if you're not deep in this, right, if you're not

696
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: up to your neck and as your casual you look

697
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: at You're like, this dude never scores touchdowns. Yeah, right,

698
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: but you gotta look at why though, right. But I mean,

699
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: like again, I think I think for a lot of

700
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: people who are drafting, like they don't dig so much

701
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: into the why is just it's just I'm looking at

702
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: this number and I see what it is and the

703
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: numbers on their face just kind of and tomorrow's my

704
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: draft day.

705
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: So like the last two years have been disappointing for Deontay.

706
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's Kenny Pickett. And I know people might

707
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: be like Bryce Young and everything, but it was also

708
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: Matt Canada, Like Dave canal Is is otherworldly compared to

709
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: Matt Canada when it comes to scheming and stuff like that.

710
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I just honestly, I think

711
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where you watch him and

712
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: you study him and you're like, this guy's really really good,

713
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: but you'll get the numbers and it's just a heap

714
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: and helping of meh. So I think that's the reason.

715
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: Like you don't see the ad he would kill for

716
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson's quarterbacks. Man, what man?

717
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: I mean, Kenny Pickett.

718
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph's like, oh, it's been rough man.

719
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. One thing we do have to

720
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: talk about though, LaQuan. What's the ceiling for Bryce Young

721
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: this year?

722
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: Top twenty, okay, because there's still some pieces they need

723
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: to build around him, and you know, Exavier Laguette suffering

724
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: an injury in camp recently, so hopefully he's good, he

725
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: gets back. I mean, honestly, all all the cards on

726
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: the table for Deontay Johnson to elevate, you know, Bryce

727
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: Young's game. But I'll say top twenty because there's still

728
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: some growing room that we need to see and be

729
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: put on display.

730
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: I'll raise the top thirteen, as could he be Alowe

731
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: in QB one. It's probably too much.

732
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: I'll say top fifteen.

733
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: But I was looking into this yesterday and I was like,

734
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 3: if you would have told me two years ago that

735
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: Gino Smith would be a QB one or that last

736
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: year Baker Mayfield would have been a QB one, I

737
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: would have laughed at you, and then they both finished

738
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: just QB one's under Dave Canalis.

739
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: So I would say top fifteen.

740
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: But maybe if there's.

741
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: Like a bunch of injuries or something, like that he

742
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: could creep in that high, but I feel a little

743
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: bit more comfortable leaving that buffer outside of QB one.

744
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he's a QB one, but I'm

745
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm very curious about him because, like, I love that

746
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: the Panthers have built around him after what they saw

747
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: last year.

748
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 4: Should throw last year out for Bryce Yeng.

749
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: It was Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Larnce.

750
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: Just throw out the first year.

751
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've been I think we treated in both

752
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: this like they fired his head coach halfway through the year.

753
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: He had the worst O line in the league, no weapons,

754
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: Like what was he supposed to do?

755
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

756
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: No, it's uh had the B team wide receivers, no

757
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 2: no offense to them. But I'm just saying, and didn't

758
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: really have the best feeling.

759
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: Was a star there.

760
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: I mean he ate like he ate absolutely.

761
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 3: It says more about them than him.

762
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: I think that is probably true. All Right, we are

763
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: halfway through our preview of the NFC South. Still two

764
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: more teams to go. We'll hit those after the break

765
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Trying to take a

766
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: look at the New Orleans Saints their top scorers from

767
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: last year. Derek Carr was the QB sixteen, just shy

768
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: of two hundred and fifty points. Alba Kamara had two

769
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three points. He was the RB eleven.

770
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: Chris o'lave wide receiver sixteen two thirty one point three.

771
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill was the top scoring tight end in New

772
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: Orleans one hundred and forty three and a half points.

773
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: He was the tight end twelve. The offseason, they lost

774
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston, Keith Kirkwood, Michael Thomas, and Jimmy Graham. Three

775
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: of those four are still free agent, so Winston I

776
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: think the only one who has signed key additions in

777
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: free agency. They signed Helen Mond. They signed Nathan Peterman.

778
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: They signed the other Saint Brown brother, Equanimious. They also

779
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: signed Cedric Wilson. They drafted Spencer Rattler, the quarterback in

780
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: the fifth round, and a fifth round pick on wide receiver.

781
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: Bob means, which is just a fun name to say.

782
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: Bob means first sad off the board, Chris o'lave right

783
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: around pick twenty four or why are you bowing? I'm

784
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: sorry that wait, I got another way, like you have?

785
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: You have some beef with Chris Olave.

786
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: I don't know.

787
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: I have beef with his price, his ADP and fantasy

788
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: streets are talking buzzing at and me, DM me, me,

789
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: and I just don't see a case why his ADP

790
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: is where it's at. I just I just have issues.

791
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: All right, No, No, that's fine. So it's not about him,

792
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: it's not about ep Okay, I just didn't know if

793
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: there was something I was missing with you and Chris.

794
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 4: And he took his drink last year.

795
00:36:52,320 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, there insulted your family members drink all so cross

796
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: stay with you? Is Alvin Kamara washed?

797
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: Uh? Doesn't matter? And this is why. Okay, it's a

798
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: PPR game that we're in that most of the which

799
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: is the standard now and the dude's gonna see targets

800
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: and he honestly is still one of the core pass

801
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: catchers there because outside of Chris o'lave, we're hoping that

802
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: Rashid Shahid become this all around wide receiver. So there's

803
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: still a question mark there. Then outside of that you

804
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: have bub memes. I mean, that's about it. That's about

805
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: it when you're looking at the pass catcher. So Alam

806
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: Kamara is still a guy that's gonna see a ton

807
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: of ton of targets, and I mean he averaged seventeen

808
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: Fantasy points for a game in thirteen games, and a

809
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: lot of that is because of his involvement in a

810
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: passing game. He did drop back in efficiency when it

811
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: comes as a runner, But I don't think the focal

812
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: point here should be him as a running back. He's

813
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: more so a running back wide receiver. So it's a

814
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: PPR game. The receptions are there, the targets are there.

815
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: Alan Kamara is my guy.

816
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean, so last year Alan Kamara had seventy five

817
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: catches four hundred and sixty six yards ill. But that's

818
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a career low yards perception number,

819
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: but seventy five catches. There you go.

820
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: He was His seventeen game pace was one hundred and

821
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 3: twelve targets and ninety eight catches.

822
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: But like that sounds amazing.

823
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: But also probably what less than six hundred yards.

824
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 4: Receiving, it would put him at just six on nine.

825
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Okay, look, his efficiency is awful.

826
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: He's as a runner, it's getting worse and worse every year.

827
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: But I agree, like I'm not super bullishly targeting him

828
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: because all he has is volume. Like you were saying,

829
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: and if that starts to dip, then he could be dust.

830
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, at his price where he's going, I think

831
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: it's in appropriate cost for everything, LQ said.

832
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: And last year I was like, this dude is a

833
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: league winner.

834
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: Because he's only going to miss a handful of games.

835
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: And then when he came back, like, it wasn't always pretty,

836
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: but I mean there was games where I think it

837
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: was his first literally his first game back. Fourteen targets,

838
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: thirteen catches, thirty three yards disgustingly gross, efficient wise, but

839
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: it's thirteen free points right there, exactly.

840
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, either of you concerned by or interested in Kendre Miller,

841
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: even though he can't seem to stay healthy, people seem to.

842
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: Love this guy.

843
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: I just don't find myself in that camp.

844
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I liked him last year right when I was you know,

845
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: we didn't really know what he could do, and especially

846
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: knowing that Kamara was going to miss time, just sort

847
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: of feeling like, all right, it's worth a shot. But

848
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy at the start of the year. Yeah,

849
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: has struggled to stay healthy so far in training camp.

850
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: You know, look, you're injury prone till you're not right.

851
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: But for now, his lack of availability makes it hard

852
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: to get behind him. I because that's where I am

853
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: on Chindre mill fact.

854
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: And it's if Alvin Kamara is healthy, he's I mean,

855
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: they're paying him like twenty million dollars this year.

856
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: He's not going the way. Yeah.

857
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: Dennis Allen also said that he needs to stay healthy,

858
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: like in a press conference. He has all these expectations

859
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: for him, but if he can't stay healthy, there's not naked.

860
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Dennis Alnd's been very up front about how he feels

861
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: about Kendred.

862
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 3: I kind of feel bad familiar in that sense because

863
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: it's not like he's choosing to go get hurt exactly.

864
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, that's how you find guys who

865
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: end up pushing themselves and maybe making it worse, abably

866
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: putting the fire under his butt, stop getting hurt.

867
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: And he's probably sitting there like you think I'm softball

868
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 3: captain will come up to me and be like get

869
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: a base hit here, and I'm like, you think I'm.

870
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: Going up there?

871
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna pop up, but you

872
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: know you said that, I'm completely changed my approach. Thanks,

873
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Lakwan mentioned Rashid sh he uh. I mean,

874
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: look what, well, okay, what are your expectations for him

875
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: this year?

876
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that they can make him this all around

877
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 2: wide receiver and kind of step into what Michael Thomas

878
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: was not talent wise, but the role to where he

879
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: could be utilized short, intermediate and the loan ball. Like

880
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: we saw the long ball last season with Derek Carr

881
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: where he had five touchdowns, zero interceptions when target and

882
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: Rashisha heat twenty plus yards with a fifty five point

883
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: six completion percentage, which led the team. Now you look

884
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: at solve in that category, it did not pay that well.

885
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: Derek Carr had a twenty five passer rating when targeting

886
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: him in twenty plus yards. So I feel as though

887
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: rashishah Heed the bag is there for him for the

888
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 2: long ball. So if he can keep these big plays

889
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: and keep you know, making these plays all over the field,

890
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: I really think that Rashis Shahid could be a solid

891
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: wide receiver three slash flex for rosters this season.

892
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: Is he more than just a best ball guy Florio.

893
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: I want him to be.

894
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: I like the key we want him.

895
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 3: I like and shout out to Patrick Clayband. I feel

896
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: like anytime we talk about Rashichi. Yep, he's loved him

897
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: since he's like first game as a rookie, since he

898
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: was born. Yeah, he's been on him. But it's not

899
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 3: that I don't like Shaheed and the talent that he is.

900
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: I'm a known Derek Carr hater. I just I don't

901
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: trust Derek Carr. I don't trust Dennis Allen. I don't

902
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: trust this offense. Like I feel like we've been chasing

903
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: this this not just Shahied like the Saints offense, like

904
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: they're gonna right, someone's gonna have to and I just

905
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: feel like it ever since, like late season, late career

906
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 3: Drew Brees, I feel like we've been chasing this offense

907
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 3: and it's like they're gonna have one good pass catcher

908
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: and Alvin Kamara and that's it.

909
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: That's it.

910
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my BEEFOOTO lobbies praise, what are we doing well?

911
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: Because but he's the one good pass catcher.

912
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: But I'm not early second round not early second round.

913
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: That makes no sense to me because nothing has really

914
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: changed with this offense this team to make it like

915
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: oh yes.

916
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: Push him up. True, but you're paying the wide receiver tax,

917
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: right because right now, because so many people are going

918
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: so wide receiver heavy early that everybody is getting and

919
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: maybe look, maybe in a couple of weeks, maybe that

920
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: changes a little bit more. I don't know, but right now,

921
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: that's just the price to pay. Look, we all love

922
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior, right, He's an early second round pick, right,

923
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about, because one, we love the talent,

924
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: the opportunity, but also because wide receivers are going so quickly,

925
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: you just have to be prepared to just suck out

926
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: and go early to get one.

927
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: Agreed, But of the names who go where all goes,

928
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: he is my least favorite.

929
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: I would take DK in the third over Chris. I'll

930
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: take Drake London.

931
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: I'll I'll take Cooper Cup.

932
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: And that's not being being in a homer and but

933
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

934
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: I think I have Cup ranked ahead of Alva.

935
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: Poka's Anders sluggish starting to season, Cooper Cup and fed

936
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: why not?

937
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: It's there.

938
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: I tweeted yesterday like Olave was second and most unrealized

939
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: air yards as a rook and I.

940
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: Was like starting to buy in capa year.

941
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: Last year he had even more unrealized their yards than

942
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: he did as a rookie, and I'm like, at some point, like,

943
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: it's easy to be like, if those turn into yards,

944
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: this guy's.

945
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: At some point.

946
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and I don't think it's an O Lave problem.

947
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a quarterback.

948
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: And and at least in the past, it was like, well,

949
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: if something happens to Derek Carr, Jameis Winston and that

950
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: yolo ball, we don't have that to fall back out anymore.

951
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: Either, you're not worried about You're not excited about the

952
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: Kellen Mond or Nathan Peterman yolo ball.

953
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: Nathan Peterman is the worst rated player in Madden. I

954
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: saw that yesterday and I was like that, it's fifty

955
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: four overall.

956
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: You gotta claim it just love.

957
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: I still I still am bitter about that six interception game.

958
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: If you can't tell, Yeah, that's right. That was against

959
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers, wasn't it for the Bills?

960
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: They benched Tyrod in the middle of a playoff part like,

961
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: after not making the playoffs for two decades, one guy

962
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: almost gets you there, and his replacement through six interceptions

963
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: and a half.

964
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: And a half, how does he get to four?

965
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: Because you're getting ripped out there, three of you immediately

966
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: do it.

967
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: But he got to six, got six. I think at

968
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: some point I think the coaches that was like, I

969
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: just want to see what happen. Straight Vibes.

970
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 3: Show that was like McDermott's first year, I think, and

971
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: I was like, this guy's gotta go.

972
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: How are you just watching this happen?

973
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers had less interceptions in his MVP season, Yeah,

974
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: than that guy did in a half.

975
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: Uh So my last question about the Saints that I think,

976
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: why know Florio's answering. Someone asked you to kwan draft

977
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: Derek Card.

978
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, nah man, No, no, No, this is his

979
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: fourth offensive coordinator, by the way, going into the season,

980
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: I feel like we kind of know what he is.

981
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: He has the low touchdown percentage, which is below the

982
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: league average. If we look him back to twenty twenty one,

983
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: and I feel like the touchdowns aren't there.

984
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: He's not mobile.

985
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: This is another system he has to learn. They're not exciting,

986
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: you know, offensive weapons outside of Kamara and Olave. We're

987
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: getting the Derek Carr we have seen the last couple

988
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: of years. So no, I will not be drafting him

989
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: at any aspect or any point in any format.

990
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 4: And I think This is what.

991
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 3: You need to know about Derek Carr third highest checkdown

992
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: rate last year despite being the least pressured quarterback in

993
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: the NFL.

994
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: Jeez, that's no Boier. That's disgusting, all right. That let's

995
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: get to the let's close this out to Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

996
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was the QB ten last year. Two hundred

997
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: and eighty four points for Bake bak Rashad White was

998
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: the RB four two hundred and sixty seven point nine

999
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Fantasy points for him. Mike Evans the wide receiver seven.

1000
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: I know Floria and I have to apologize to him

1001
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: puzzling multiple times on this show because we did not

1002
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: believe two hundred and eighty two and a half points

1003
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: for him. Kate Otten was your top tight end one

1004
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: sixteen point five. He was a tight end twenty lost

1005
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: David Moore in the offseason. He went to Karenlina. Most

1006
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: of their offseason was spent re signing a lot of

1007
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: their guys. They didn't necessarily bring in a lot of

1008
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: new free agents. They did sign Sterling Shepard. They spent

1009
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: a third round pick on wide receiver Jalen McMillan, a

1010
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: fourth round pick on running back Bucky Irvin, so apparently

1011
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: they love Pac twelve football and a seventh round pick

1012
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: on tight end Devin Culp first off the board. I

1013
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: thought this was interesting. Both Mike Evans and Rashad White

1014
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: have an ADP of a round thirty four, so they

1015
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: tend to be your first bucks drafted in most leagues.

1016
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: So big question. I mean, Florio, Rashad White was the

1017
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: RB four. We talked a lot about how it helped

1018
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: that they just started throwing him the ball because he

1019
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: wasn't running it efficiently. Changes there, right, new offensive coordinator.

1020
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: Can Rashad White do it again this year?

1021
00:46:59,520 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: He can?

1022
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: Will he do it? Yah?

1023
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: To me? Of the like top I have him as

1024
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: a top fifteen ranked running back, but of those, he's

1025
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: the one that I think I'm like most concerned with

1026
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: potentially just bottoming out because he even last year RB

1027
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: four was the worst running running back in football, Like,

1028
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: least efficient, fewest rushing yards over expectation, all of that

1029
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But like we said, they started throwing

1030
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: him the ball a bunch more in his seventeen game

1031
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 3: pace from Week six on put him on pace for

1032
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: almost seventy catches. Can he do that again, I yes,

1033
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: they'll probably throw him the ball a bunch, but if

1034
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 3: he loses some of those targets with the new OC,

1035
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 3: then the floor becomes much less sturdy, and then that's

1036
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: the kind of pick.

1037
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: That coubought him out.

1038
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean, rbfour Lakwan seems like a really really high bar.

1039
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, more realistically, what RB ten twelve is that?

1040
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: Think I have him at fourteen? Am I rank?

1041
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: I got him at thirteen where I'm at my rankings,

1042
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: and I think more so, I think we'll see a

1043
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: more efficient runner out of him this season with them

1044
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: adding to the old line in the offseason and in

1045
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: the draft, they're getting one of the top prospects and

1046
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: Graham Barton in the center. So I think we'll see

1047
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: a lot more efficient running from him. But it's the targets.

1048
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 2: If the targets aren't there, if he's not getting involved

1049
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: in the passing game as much as he was last season,

1050
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: then he could be taking a dip. But I think

1051
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: more so we have to look with Baker Mayfield has

1052
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 2: done with starting running backs in his time in the league,

1053
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: and they've all averaged, you know, dating back even to

1054
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: adding Kareem Hunt into that mix. As is a mixture

1055
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: of that average. They've averaged sixteen and a half Fantasy

1056
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: points per game, and I really feel as though that

1057
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: running backs they eat under Baker Mayfield. So I don't

1058
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: think the checkdown will go completely out. But if he's

1059
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: still running how he was running last season with three

1060
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: point seven yards per carry, I believe it was, and

1061
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 2: the old line is not doing their job, he could,

1062
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: you know, end up outside the top ten.

1063
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: Any fear for either of you that Bucky Irvings steps

1064
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: in and takes some work.

1065
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: He's more of a threat than anyone on the roster

1066
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 4: was last year.

1067
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, I think he's a threat in

1068
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: the passing game.

1069
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

1070
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: I don't think more so, like he was great in

1071
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: the red zone last year and his last year in

1072
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: college in Oregon. But I feel as though that still

1073
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: would be Rashad D. White's area where he will be

1074
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: utilized on the field. But I'm not worried that he'll

1075
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: take enough touches away from White to where you know,

1076
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: White won't be Fantasy relevant most weeks.

1077
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: All Right, Yeah, I said I think he's a low

1078
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: end RB one at best. Yeah. The RB four thing

1079
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: was just bananas.

1080
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: And humble changes coming, Yeah, too.

1081
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: Much, Shange. But speaking of changes, Chris Godwin is back

1082
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: to playing in the slot again. I know that's gotten

1083
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: Fantasy Twitter very very excited. Yeah, but Lakwan, I'll say this,

1084
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: his big years out of the slot came with Tom

1085
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: Brady quarterback, and Brady was notorious for targeting his slot receivers.

1086
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield not so much. Are we a little bit

1087
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: too excited about this?

1088
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: Yes?

1089
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: And no.

1090
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: You're excited that he's back to where you know, he's

1091
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: publicly saying this is where he makes his most comfortable.

1092
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: It's comfortable. So I feel as though having Baker Mayfield

1093
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: understanding Chris Godwin's role in the slot and his ability

1094
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: to get open and not just zoning in on Mike Evans,

1095
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: I think more so this will be a camp where

1096
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: they'll have to build that chemistry. I'm just excited that

1097
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: the price that he's at right now in drafts isn't terrible.

1098
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: I like that I'm able to get him later in drafts.

1099
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: I like that it's a known fact that he's going

1100
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: to be one of the top two targets. I mean, well,

1101
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: top three, because obviously Mike Evans would be one but

1102
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, this is a good situation

1103
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: for him to get back to, at least being like

1104
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. Two low en wide receiver won some

1105
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: weeks where I think that he could still be productive

1106
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: and be utilized a lot in lineups.

1107
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, is is Mike Evans the number one target?

1108
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: Because last year Chris Godwin led that team in catches.

1109
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: If he led the targets and catches, they.

1110
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 3: Were six targets apart, okay of them, so which blew

1111
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: my mind.

1112
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 4: I thought like Mike Evans.

1113
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 3: Ran away with it by how the narrative was year,

1114
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 3: And then I went back and I.

1115
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: Was like, they were six targets apart.

1116
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: Evans was just a big plague. Yeah he was a

1117
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: touchdown guy, but yeah, it was Chris Godwin that was

1118
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: kind of doing a lot of the dirty work for

1119
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: this team in the passing at a position too.

1120
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you guys were on this before I was.

1121
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 3: But I fully have come around on Chris Godwin. Like

1122
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 3: last year in the slot, he was like almost double

1123
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: as good as he was out wide, and yet they

1124
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: were just using him more out wide. So Lee and Cohen,

1125
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: the new OC not only has said they're going to

1126
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 3: use him in the slot. He said, we're gonna use

1127
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: him like Cooper Cup was used.

1128
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: In the Rams, and that's a hot name. Yeah.

1129
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 4: And the thing is six times.

1130
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 3: I understand the touchdown was heavily in Mike evans favor,

1131
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: but six targets apart.

1132
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Instead, they're like three or four rounds apart. It's not more.

1133
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: In some drafts. I'm starting to be out on the

1134
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: general we're going to use blank like blank right, likes

1135
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: it's so overused. Right, It's like we're gonna every running

1136
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: back who catches the football, we're gonna use them like

1137
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. No, you're not.

1138
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: No, why are you lying to me?

1139
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: Right, Like, oh, this guy's gonna play in the slot.

1140
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna use it like Cooper Cup. No, you're not,

1141
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna play in the slot and you're gonna

1142
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: throw in the football, you know, Like I just that's

1143
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: becoming an overused trait. It is Stop it, coaches, stop

1144
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: like you're because you're also comparing these players to guys

1145
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: who are just like one of one's the elites. There

1146
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: will never be another Cooper Cup ever, Like, we're not.

1147
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: You're not gonna find a Christian McCaffrey, You're just not.

1148
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: So let's let's stop doing that one now. I'm Baker

1149
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: Mayfield was QB ten last year. Can he be a

1150
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: top ten QB again this year?

1151
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no. I think Dave Canalis had a

1152
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 3: lot to do with it. I think everything broke right,

1153
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: and then I think injuries. Like to me, quarterback is

1154
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 3: so much deeper now than it has been in years

1155
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: because the influx of young talent that we've gotten last

1156
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: season and now this season with like Kleb and Jayden Daniels.

1157
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: So I'll say no, same question to you. I see

1158
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: you're shaking your head.

1159
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: No, it's totally because we have quarterback come back from injuries.

1160
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: We have quarterbacks and new places. So like Deshaun Watson,

1161
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Anthony Richardson, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins,

1162
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: all these guys are new spots coming back from injuries,

1163
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: where I think that will kind of like humble him

1164
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: to where I can say comfortably top fifteen Maybee, you know,

1165
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: And that's like a really really good year for Baker Mayfield.

1166
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: But I won't be drafting him. Expectations of him finishing

1167
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: top ten or inside the top ten this year.

1168
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm with you.

1169
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think last year was sort

1170
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: of a special moment, and I do think losing Dave

1171
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: Canalis is going to be a big difference yea to

1172
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: him to that offense. So top ten seems.

1173
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have Liam Coe there. I don't want to

1174
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: knock him because he's from the McVeigh tree and he's

1175
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: actually he was part of that installation of getting Baker

1176
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: up to speed when he came in Thursday night, you know,

1177
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: two days.

1178
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: Off of flight learning, which was still miraculous.

1179
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, but it helps when you have a

1180
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: good QB coach, you have a great offensive coordinator in

1181
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: a great mine in Sean McVay. So like I am

1182
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: part of the like you know, train of like loving

1183
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: every family tree that comes from McVeigh that they're going

1184
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: to find success some way.

1185
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: So also I'll say this, if there's a quarterback who

1186
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: can just pick up a new playbook and find some

1187
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: success with it, it's probably Baker Mayfield because that's been his

1188
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: whole whole professional football life is just new playbooks and

1189
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinators. So if anybody can do it, Baker

1190
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: is probably the one who can do it there. It

1191
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: is our uh. Look at the NFC South. We got

1192
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: one more set of divisions, so we'll do that next

1193
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: week with the West divisions for the AFC. No East,

1194
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: we've done. We did, we started with I'm all turned around, y'all.

1195
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: We'll go with the East. So the we'll start with

1196
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: the AFC East. Floria can wax poetic about his buff

1197
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: with your four timesion champions, uh, and we'll finish it

1198
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: off with the NFC East next Wednesday. We'll back with

1199
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: you tomorrow Thursday for another episode of the cheat Sheet.

1200
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: I think just a couple more cheat sheets left until

1201
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: we got to put it down.

1202
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: Feel like we have to get a bar on one

1203
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: of them.

1204
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: Maybe look if to come on and talk about remembering

1205
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: being born and all sorts of weed that energyisms like.

1206
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm totally on board with it. It'll be like an

1207
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: old Fantasy Live reunion from when he was back on

1208
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: Fantasy Live. Still. I for sure we will have the

1209
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: cheat sheet for you tomorrow. We are watching the Warriors.

1210
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 4: Top five movie of all Time.

1211
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: I watched it, so we will talk about that. It's

1212
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: another nonsense on the show, so'll be sure to be

1213
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: there for that as well. In the meantime, don'd do

1214
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

1215
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: They happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well.

1216
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: We will talk to you tomorrow