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Speaker 1: Brod Parker in for Dan and the Dan ats Boys
Speaker 1: vacation is over as of Monday, right, They're back Monday,
Speaker 1: So in the meantime, you're just stuck with us. Our
Speaker 1: guy Bucky Brooks, who's he's actually high school football coach,
Speaker 1: former NFL player and outstanding analysts for the NFL Network
Speaker 1: and part of the Move the Sticks podcast which I
Speaker 1: was listening to this morning driving in. He'll join us
Speaker 1: at half past the hour. We'll get his take on
Speaker 1: the Pat Mahomes contract and on Cam Newton and what
Speaker 1: we can expect from the former NFL MVP with the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. That upcoming half past the hour, Rob Parker.
Speaker 1: You can hear him on the Odd Couple, which is
Speaker 1: seven o'clock Eastern, four o'clock Pacific here on Fox Sports Trader,
Speaker 1: your iHeartRadio app. You can also download the Inside the
Speaker 1: Parker podcast, which is all baseball, all the time, and
Speaker 1: you can read his work in dead Spin in which
Speaker 1: he wrote that Pat Mahomes missed a golden opportunity to
Speaker 1: get a fully guaranteed contract, something we debated, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk with Bucky Brooks upcoming, But Robot, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about the biggest story of the day, and that's
Speaker 1: that yesterday the Big Ten took the lead and they
Speaker 1: decided to announce that they were not are not, excuse me,
Speaker 1: going to play going to play non conference games if
Speaker 1: they have an upcoming twenty twenty college football season. Here's
Speaker 1: the new commissioner of the Big Ten, Kevin Warren. This
Speaker 1: decision would allow us to one do the right thing
Speaker 1: by our student athletes, keep them at the forefront of
Speaker 1: all of our decisions, and make sure we create an
Speaker 1: environment to give us the best chance to play. I
Speaker 1: mean one thing, we have to realize that this is
Speaker 1: not a fatal complete that we're gonna have sports in
Speaker 1: the fall. We may not have sports in the fall.
Speaker 1: We may not have a college football season and a
Speaker 1: Big Ten. What's what's your reaction to his announcement? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is such a fluid situation. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody really knows, Doug what's gonna happen come September
Speaker 1: and whether there'll be a college football season. The virus,
Speaker 1: will it be a vaccine, will something how bad, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. So I think that they're going about it
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to somehow salvage of
Speaker 1: football season, somehow get players on the football field so
Speaker 1: that they can get their broadcast money and the other
Speaker 1: stuff that comes with it, even if they have to
Speaker 1: go without fans. And at one point they were talking
Speaker 1: about having fans signed waivers and all kinds and maybe
Speaker 1: just having twenty five percent of the crowd coming in
Speaker 1: to watch the game. Whatever. By hook or crook, they
Speaker 1: would love to try to get a football season in.
Speaker 1: So I think this is just like a step. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that this is gonna work or it is
Speaker 1: the problem by by just playing conference games instead of
Speaker 1: bringing other people in. So it's it's very up in
Speaker 1: the air. I thought there's a chance that we would
Speaker 1: get football. I'm not so sure now, Doug. I'm really
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think the NBA and baseball is
Speaker 1: gonna start and we'll see what happens as we go forward.
Speaker 1: And I think that'll probably be the biggest test to
Speaker 1: see if somehow, some way, you know, we can have football. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, and this is to me, this is
Speaker 1: actually universal too. The NBA bubble. It's a little different
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball's bubble. But but I'm of the belief
Speaker 1: and you're allowed to dispute this. The college botball players
Speaker 1: are way better off on campus than they are at home.
Speaker 1: And the reason is when you're on campus, though you're not,
Speaker 1: you are bringing in people from all different areas of
Speaker 1: the country. You're at least in a protected environment, at
Speaker 1: least have the absolute best medical care. You can get tested,
Speaker 1: which is incredibly expensive on a daily or weekly basis.
Speaker 1: And if you do pop up positive is I think
Speaker 1: Clemson had like twenty six kids pop up positive, you're
Speaker 1: going to get the best treatment as opposed to if
Speaker 1: you're at home. The environment is not contained, right, The
Speaker 1: world has opened up. Whether you wear a mask or
Speaker 1: don't wear a mask some people some states are making
Speaker 1: it mandatory, Some are making it mandatory but not enforced.
Speaker 1: Some are not making it mandatory. So the point is
Speaker 1: that it's not like you're coming from a quarantine bubble
Speaker 1: and going to the wild wild West. You're coming from
Speaker 1: an open environment and going to some sort of bubble
Speaker 1: ish sort of area with far better medical protection. Right,
Speaker 1: That's how they're already popping up positive and that's oh yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, why they're getting treated. And I think
Speaker 1: ultimately they will hopefully be fine. Knock on wood. I
Speaker 1: think that's and it's a real and legitimate argument to say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: if we bring in non conference schools like one, we
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to play. We don't know
Speaker 1: if they have the funding. Even so let's and even
Speaker 1: if they do play, we don't actually know how much
Speaker 1: they've been tested or if they've been in quarantine the
Speaker 1: way that we've been in quarantine. We know that the
Speaker 1: Big ten schools have the same all the same protocols.
Speaker 1: We know that they're all well funded, we know that
Speaker 1: they've all been tested, and if they popped up positive,
Speaker 1: they've been removed from their activities. I actually think this
Speaker 1: is the safest and smartest way, and I think the
Speaker 1: Big Ten. Though some people cynics will say that this
Speaker 1: is the Big Ten, you know, jumping ahead and doing
Speaker 1: like a preemptive strike, it's not. It's they've come to
Speaker 1: a conclusion kind of quickly that this is the smartest,
Speaker 1: most likely way to have a football season. And look,
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, and granted it was a different commissioner,
Speaker 1: but They've done a lot of things ahead of the curve,
Speaker 1: mostly for the good of college football and especially the
Speaker 1: good of the Big Ten. And it's worked, whether it's
Speaker 1: their own network or whether it's conference expansion. And I
Speaker 1: think it stands the reason that they believe this is
Speaker 1: the path most likely to give us a college football season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it. I's still not sure that even given
Speaker 1: these circumstances and what they're trying to accomplish, as you
Speaker 1: mentioned before, with all the players at Clemson, like, could
Speaker 1: there be an outbreak at Michigan god forbid, or Michigan
Speaker 1: State or you know, Northwestern or something like that, we
Speaker 1: just don't know, and how would that impact, you know,
Speaker 1: whether or not you would go along or go forward
Speaker 1: with a football season. We saw the IVY League shut
Speaker 1: down all four sports, I mean all fall sports, right
Speaker 1: and just decided to pull the plug and say that
Speaker 1: they don't think it's safe enough, so they decided not
Speaker 1: to do anything. Is that because Doug the IVY League
Speaker 1: didn't have a big football programs that are make a
Speaker 1: ton of money and it's easier to shut down. Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that the reason that they can be more cautiously,
Speaker 1: you know, cautious with the student athletes compared to these
Speaker 1: big time, factory producing football schools. Why do you like
Speaker 1: every every argument you bring comes to the argument of
Speaker 1: money and factory and there's a negative like like like
Speaker 1: this is darkonian, like do you think those kids don't
Speaker 1: want to play football? Do you think they don't think
Speaker 1: they do want to play football? But that's but it's
Speaker 1: not Sometimes you have to protect people from themselves, just
Speaker 1: like it's just like the government telling people don't go
Speaker 1: outside or stay in the house, Doug. It's not that
Speaker 1: people don't want to go out. You don't think people
Speaker 1: want to go out and socialize and go to the
Speaker 1: beach and have lunch with their friends. Yes, but sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to protect people from themselves because yes, they
Speaker 1: do want to do those things, but it's not good
Speaker 1: for them. And you know better the foot football has
Speaker 1: never been good for you, Ted, like football is like
Speaker 1: this is like the idea of safe football is such
Speaker 1: it's such an oxymoron. It's not and uh it's like look,
Speaker 1: playing college BASBA or player okay, not safe, Okay saying
Speaker 1: you're but you're actually safer playing college football than you
Speaker 1: are being at home because when you're at home. Do
Speaker 1: you think a college kid who's nineteen twenty years old
Speaker 1: is at home he doesn't have college football? Is he
Speaker 1: just staying at home in quarantine and not leaving his house?
Speaker 1: But no, might say, I'm asking questions. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Not some people. Not everybody come home and everybody. Some
Speaker 1: people might stay home another way. Maybe they have a grandparent,
Speaker 1: or maybe they have all cousins or or other siblings people,
Speaker 1: so they're they're actually they're actually safer and their family
Speaker 1: is safer. And look, here's another part of like, it's
Speaker 1: it's actually a lie that people the idea that, well,
Speaker 1: you can't do it if we have online classes. M
Speaker 1: maybe you should ask an actual athlete. Many students, I
Speaker 1: don't know an actual percentage, but as I've I discussed
Speaker 1: things with several schools in terms of coaching in Division
Speaker 1: one and I have a brother who's an assistant have
Speaker 1: been an assistant coach for twenty five years Indivision one basketball.
Speaker 1: Most student athletes take online courses almost exclusively. They don't
Speaker 1: actually like, oh, you can't have like what happens if
Speaker 1: the whole school goes online is the whole school loses
Speaker 1: a ton of money because you because they make money
Speaker 1: not just off tuition but also off room and board
Speaker 1: and everything else on campus. That's a massive amount and
Speaker 1: so you're you have to mitigate all of those losses. Additionally,
Speaker 1: putting people attendance is a big financial generator, not just
Speaker 1: in terms of money, but also for the town, and
Speaker 1: that's where they get donations for the rest of the
Speaker 1: schools by somebody who teaches. I also believe that hands on,
Speaker 1: being able to have one on one talks with somebody
Speaker 1: and instruction is important too. I don't I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: just online, but I'm telling you I'd much rather be
Speaker 1: in a classroom and be able to answer the kids questions,
Speaker 1: be able to go to them and give them one
Speaker 1: on one guidance and have them understand, rather than it
Speaker 1: just be online. I get on online, but I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I'd rather the hand hands on appro Rob I
Speaker 1: agree with you, okay, And like, look, I got three
Speaker 1: little kids, and you know there's a there's a social
Speaker 1: aspect to it, there's a mental health aspect to it
Speaker 1: for little kids going to class. Right, anybody who has
Speaker 1: kids knows that there's some good and there's some bad
Speaker 1: to the to the homeschooling thing, and it's been really
Speaker 1: really interesting to kind of navigate it. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you the reality of it is, even though in person learning,
Speaker 1: by my estimation and yours as well, and you're actually
Speaker 1: a professor at USC, in person learning is way better
Speaker 1: than learning online. But the again, the reality of it
Speaker 1: is that it's kind of a red herring. College football
Speaker 1: and college ball players rarely step foot on that part
Speaker 1: of campus anyway. They're not actually going to miss the
Speaker 1: in person learning because, in an effort to make their
Speaker 1: lives easier, they just do online classes. That way, they
Speaker 1: can have plenty of time to rest and to hang
Speaker 1: out and have a life, do their football, do their basketball,
Speaker 1: and then still be a regular human being. That's it's
Speaker 1: just an easier way to balance it and an easier
Speaker 1: way for them to keep up with their school. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's what used to be correspondence courses are
Speaker 1: now online courses, and even the core curriculum is taught
Speaker 1: online previous to this, and you know, so, I think
Speaker 1: the idea if you have all online course courses, it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't have football. It does mean you
Speaker 1: have to wonder whether or not you can actually get
Speaker 1: students into the stands and fans into the stands, and
Speaker 1: that's where it changes the financial aspects, but all aspects
Speaker 1: of college football. I don't think that yesterday said we're
Speaker 1: not going to have a college football season. I do
Speaker 1: think that it showed we're very likely to not have
Speaker 1: a college football season for a good portion of the
Speaker 1: non Power six leagues. That's that's what because they need
Speaker 1: football to make money, not just their own home games,
Speaker 1: but those guarantee games. You take away the guarantee games,
Speaker 1: and now the home games that the regular conference games
Speaker 1: for those conferences are crazy expensive with very little money
Speaker 1: coming in. That that's where I wonder if those schools
Speaker 1: will have football, you mean this season or long term,
Speaker 1: this season and then how it affects them long time,
Speaker 1: because that's that's the issue that I have is I
Speaker 1: think the damage done, especially dug if there is no
Speaker 1: college football season will be widespread and there will be
Speaker 1: programs that will go away because of the financial aspect
Speaker 1: of it. It's gonna be very very interesting, and why
Speaker 1: it's important for them to try to push through with
Speaker 1: the season. They almost have too and most of the
Speaker 1: kids are going to be willing. And here's the other
Speaker 1: thing we see it in pro sports where guys are
Speaker 1: opting out. Where would you be, Doug if you a
Speaker 1: college coach and guys you're You're at Michigan's football team
Speaker 1: and twenty kids go to Jim Harbaugh. I don't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable playing. Are you cool with that? I don't think
Speaker 1: you'll have a choice. What are you're cool with? They're
Speaker 1: not cool with it? You won't have a choice. Kid
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play. I mean, it's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to and the NSA would likely grant a kid a
Speaker 1: redshirt year or whatever. You know. To me, again, this
Speaker 1: is how, how, how how college kids really think I
Speaker 1: would be like if I'm a backup, like, I hope
Speaker 1: the starters do that. That way I get to play.
Speaker 1: They all want to show themselves. They all want to play.
Speaker 1: They just do I If you pull them, I'd say
Speaker 1: you get a ninety five to ninety eight percent kids
Speaker 1: want to play. If they don't, then you know they'll
Speaker 1: be I'm sure granted a medical redshirt ear and somebody
Speaker 1: else wo get that opportunity. You know, the the college
Speaker 1: coaches that I've spoken with, and some are actually over
Speaker 1: sixty years old or in the most danger prone group
Speaker 1: have said like, look, it's about the kids and get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play an unbelievable experience, whether it's football
Speaker 1: or basketball. If you're in danger as a coach, you
Speaker 1: should be willing to either step aside, sign a waiver
Speaker 1: or whatever so that the kids can play. And I
Speaker 1: think most coaches would would actually do that. Where it
Speaker 1: gets tricky is with fans in the stands. But I
Speaker 1: think the kids want to play, and if they don't
Speaker 1: want to play, they can opt out and they'll with
Speaker 1: somebody in their stead. I don't think you can do
Speaker 1: spring football though, because none of the kids they all
Speaker 1: think they're going in the NFL, and any kid who
Speaker 1: thinks he's going in the NFL won't want to put
Speaker 1: themselves in that sort of harm's way, even if it's
Speaker 1: a five or six game season, because then you're talking
Speaker 1: about playing twenty games in the calendar year and your body.
Speaker 1: NFL teams would would not want that, and the kids
Speaker 1: wouldn't want that. I don't think that's really a viable
Speaker 1: option for schools. And one last thing, would you sign
Speaker 1: a waiver as a fan to go sit in the stands?
Speaker 1: And watch a college football game. Yes, okay, yes you're
Speaker 1: right now, because but I would also I would also
Speaker 1: tell you that, having taken business law from a professor
Speaker 1: named Andy Yurick at Oklahoma State, signing a waiver doesn't
Speaker 1: actually clear that school of liability. It's actually a bit
Speaker 1: of a misconception. You can still sue even if you
Speaker 1: sign a waiver. So um, the waiver idea makes people
Speaker 1: think that they can't sue even though they can. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, the idea that you would sign a waiver,
Speaker 1: go to a college football game, potentially contract COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: and then sue a school, you're pretty much the dumbest
Speaker 1: and worst human being, one of the one of the
Speaker 1: bad human beings on earth. Like right like you, you
Speaker 1: legitimately were told of the dangers, hopefully prepared yourself, wore
Speaker 1: your gloves, wore your mask, still want to get it,
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna blame somebody else. Sorry, I just
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have time for that level
Speaker 1: of it. It didn't there would say that, dude, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have had a game. This shouldn't have been a
Speaker 1: game if there was a chance of me getting sick right.
Speaker 1: We don't want we want, we want nothing in terms
Speaker 1: of a personal accountability. And that's a different, different story. Okay,
Speaker 1: did Pat Mahomes give away a golden opportunity with the
Speaker 1: contract that he sighed? Rob Parker's not just a radio
Speaker 1: host and a professor at USC's also a writer for
Speaker 1: dead Spin. His article is going to drop it at
Speaker 1: some point the very near future. That's exactly what he said.
Speaker 1: Will allow him to kind of thoroughly make his point
Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks will either agree or disagree. He'll join
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Speaker 1: Rob is, among other things, a talented writer. Has written
Speaker 1: for a long, long time different newspapers. But four years,
Speaker 1: if you could believe that year the Wilkesbury Times Leader,
Speaker 1: I was a high school sports writer. Doug Yeah, I
Speaker 1: covered rocket Ishmael and Quadria's brother. There were high school
Speaker 1: track stars in Wilkesbury, Pennsylvania. I was twenty one years old.
Speaker 1: And they were seniors in high school. Wow. Wow, that's crazy,
Speaker 1: absolutely positively crazy, absolutely positive. Um. Okay, so if you
Speaker 1: go to if you Go to Death has posted, it
Speaker 1: has posted, it has but did you did you retweet it?
Speaker 1: I'm doing it right now. I just got it. You
Speaker 1: go give him a chance to retweet it. All right?
Speaker 1: So the article out in Death's been written by Rob Parker,
Speaker 1: of course, is co hosting with me today here on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app and of
Speaker 1: course here in the Dan Patrick Show and the Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick App. Uh is that Pat Mahomes gave away a
Speaker 1: great opportunity? What is that opportunity? The opportunity was to
Speaker 1: make history in the change the way the NFL does
Speaker 1: business with his players, like he of all players who
Speaker 1: could have demanded and gotten a fully guaranteed contract. And
Speaker 1: what I mean by that, Doug, is he if he signed,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be ten year whatever they would
Speaker 1: have agreed on, but whatever it would have been, whatever
Speaker 1: the amount of money that they talked about in the deal,
Speaker 1: would be fully guaranteed. If it's a six year deal,
Speaker 1: four year deal, whatever whatever they had come up with,
Speaker 1: and whatever the money was, it should have been fully guaranteed,
Speaker 1: and he was the guy. We saw Kirk Cousins get
Speaker 1: a three year as a free agent, a three year,
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contract for eighty four million dollars, and I
Speaker 1: just thought there was a golden opportunity to change the
Speaker 1: landscape of what NFL players. All the other leagues, NBA,
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, National Hockey League, you get guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1: Mike Trout signed for four hundred and twenty six million,
Speaker 1: He's going to get four hundred and twenty six million,
Speaker 1: not a dollar less, not a dime. Lest I remember
Speaker 1: when a Rod was leaving the Rangers and wanted to
Speaker 1: go to the Red Sox. Do you remember that story? Yep, yep.
Speaker 1: And he was gonna take a little pay cut to
Speaker 1: go to the Red Sox so that it all could fit.
Speaker 1: And the union refused to allow him to take a
Speaker 1: pay cut because he had to get all the money
Speaker 1: that he had signed for. So that deal was nixed,
Speaker 1: which is fine, and I get it, because once you
Speaker 1: open up that Pandora's box, you're gonna have problems and
Speaker 1: other people and in this case, had Mahomes, may the
Speaker 1: NFL do this, other players could have maybe followed his
Speaker 1: lead and been like, this is where we should be headed.
Speaker 1: And whether the contracts dug or smaller, three years, two years,
Speaker 1: whatever the money is, it should be guaranteed. The headline
Speaker 1: said five hundred and three million dollars, but there is
Speaker 1: no guarantee that he's going to get. You could speculate
Speaker 1: all you want. He could get hurt and next season
Speaker 1: and never be the same player and never get all
Speaker 1: that money. My point is he should sign for a
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contract, and that's what he should have held
Speaker 1: out for. Okay, I mean, look, you're if if you
Speaker 1: like that, then you like what Kirk Custins did in
Speaker 1: getting two straight two straight. Remember he was a franchise
Speaker 1: taggy two straight years, which is what Dak Prescott could do.
Speaker 1: Could be a franchise tag one more year, okay, which
Speaker 1: again guaranteed this year for like thirty one million in change.
Speaker 1: Next year would be maybe a little bit more because
Speaker 1: it's the average of the top five hours, probably would
Speaker 1: be more. And so you know next year in the
Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty three, and then he could be transition tagged,
Speaker 1: or he could be or he could be a free agent,
Speaker 1: and then he could sign. But Pat Mahomes was not
Speaker 1: a free agent. He does have guaranteed money, it just
Speaker 1: may not be for the length of time or the
Speaker 1: amount of money that you believe. Really, this is a
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy four point seven eight one million
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed deal for six years. Most of the money
Speaker 1: is actually paid up. A good portion of the money
Speaker 1: is paid up front. One hundred and forty one million
Speaker 1: or so in the next two years. Right March of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, he'll be fully By then, he'll be
Speaker 1: fully paid one hundred and forty one million. Signed for
Speaker 1: five h three. That's the number. To listen. Listen, you're
Speaker 1: you're doing that. You're reading the Lee Steinberg. Hey, I
Speaker 1: signed the guy for five h three. That's what the
Speaker 1: contract says. You got to go go google it. The
Speaker 1: richest sports contract. I understand the history of God. So
Speaker 1: your proports is Patrick Mahomes. Look, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: reporting issue. That's a journalism issue. That that's not that's
Speaker 1: actually not a Pat Mahomes issue. One, he was not
Speaker 1: a free agent. Okay, so they but that didn't show
Speaker 1: I'm signing him to a deal, Doug, stop using that.
Speaker 1: If if that was the case. Wait a minute, what
Speaker 1: wouldn't have given him a contract extension? They didn't have
Speaker 1: to sign him, so stop using it. They don't have
Speaker 1: wasn't a free agent. He will sign them to a deal,
Speaker 1: understand that. So, yes, So, so when I'm negotiating a
Speaker 1: deal and I'm giving you, listen, we'll sign. You've been great,
Speaker 1: You're awesome. We love you here, you love it here,
Speaker 1: you love any Reid. You've been nothing but but as
Speaker 1: better than we ever could have imagined, ever could have imagined. Right, Um,
Speaker 1: So as we're gonna do, We're gonna add on. We're
Speaker 1: gonna add on money to your new contract, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna pay more than anybody else. So you you tell me, Rob,
Speaker 1: what's a better contract two seventy four for six years truck? No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm asking you a question. Ask you a question. What's
Speaker 1: a better contract two seventy four for four years or
Speaker 1: four hundred and change for twelve years for for trout?
Speaker 1: What's a better contract four twenty six? Because the two
Speaker 1: seventy four that you're talking about is not totally guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Here's a chance, No, it's not. Have you read have
Speaker 1: you read these of the contract, haven't. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the money that's out from what you just mentioned,
Speaker 1: the sixty three that was fully guaranteed ats signing the
Speaker 1: one one. No, you're you're missing. Look, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: in truth. It's all fully guaranteed in the first six years.
Speaker 1: It's paid out early. Okay, there's a there's a difference there.
Speaker 1: What's paid out. It goes into what's called escrow account,
Speaker 1: so that the chiefs have to put uh sixty three million.
Speaker 1: They have to pay him sixty three million right away.
Speaker 1: Then they have to put the rest of this money,
Speaker 1: the one hundred and three million in an escrow account immediately,
Speaker 1: and then that escrow account he has to be paid
Speaker 1: by next March. Then there's another escrow account. So that's
Speaker 1: not just fully guaranteed money. That's money that they have
Speaker 1: to come up and put into escrow, real cash that
Speaker 1: they have to come up with. By the way, that
Speaker 1: is his money regardless. Okay, Then the contract is actually
Speaker 1: there are advanced roster bonus rollovers, which is really guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: It's the first guarantee because you gotta make the roster
Speaker 1: and they can cut you dog if they you're you're saying, Rob,
Speaker 1: if you cut him, he becomes a free agent and
Speaker 1: then he makes more even more money. Dog, he could
Speaker 1: be injured. That's the reason why they cut over. And
Speaker 1: he has injury guarantees. But there's a situation that that
Speaker 1: that the reason that they're letting him go was that
Speaker 1: he can't go get another deal comparable or he's not
Speaker 1: as healthy. Order as another issue. All I'm saying is
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that he's gonna get five old three.
Speaker 1: You can't guarantee me that you're right, You're right, that's
Speaker 1: my point. But the penalties to cutting him, or the
Speaker 1: penalty to cutting him are so severe. But doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you can't cut the guy. Dog, that's my point. Can
Speaker 1: they Here's here's the biggest point. Doesn't know can they
Speaker 1: cut him? Of course they can't. Okay, And then you
Speaker 1: know how much they'll owe him depending on when they
Speaker 1: cut him. If they cut him in the first three years,
Speaker 1: he'll get one hundred and forty one, but after the
Speaker 1: third year, then the fifth year becomes fully guaranteed. Right,
Speaker 1: what they're talking about years? Why would they cut him
Speaker 1: because he got seriously injured? Okay? Issue? Okay, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Whoa wait, wait, stop, stop talking
Speaker 1: about one second, then I will give you a chance. Okay.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about a sport that has a possibility, okay,
Speaker 1: a higher possibility of a a career debilitating injury than
Speaker 1: any other than any of the other three big sports.
Speaker 1: So what you want an NFL team to do is
Speaker 1: sign up for the biggest contract ever for the longest
Speaker 1: guarantee ever, when that's not the case with baseball. And
Speaker 1: Alex Smith is the perfect example of it. He signed
Speaker 1: a massive contract, which by the way, he was the
Speaker 1: starter for Pat Mahomes's first year, and then he was
Speaker 1: traded away and he signed a big contract. He's thirty
Speaker 1: two million against the cap. This is why you wouldn't
Speaker 1: do that. Okay. So but but here's the here's the
Speaker 1: biggest point, and this is the one that that I
Speaker 1: want you to really think about when we bring on
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. If the point you were making is one
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are thinking, then how come
Speaker 1: nobody's saying it. The reason, the only the the issue
Speaker 1: that people have with the contract is with the length
Speaker 1: of the deal. Okay. I've talked to NFL people like
Speaker 1: man I wouldn't sign for twelve years. Okay, but if
Speaker 1: you're not going to go up that length, they're going
Speaker 1: to give up some of the money. And secondly, uh, secondly,
Speaker 1: and is that he wasn't It wasn't the guarantees that
Speaker 1: people have an issue with. It's he couldn't get his
Speaker 1: contract directly tied to the salary cap, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: increase as much over time as it potentially could. What
Speaker 1: he did was team friendly in that it doesn't kill
Speaker 1: them against the cap in the next couple of years,
Speaker 1: so that potentially they could resign the Chris Joneses of
Speaker 1: the world. And then he wants to stay there, and
Speaker 1: they made it so basically they can't cut him in
Speaker 1: the first six years, which will pay him two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy four million dollars, and then at that point
Speaker 1: the cap is gonna should go up and he'll be
Speaker 1: able to get all for sure, CAP's going up, for sure. No,
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna go down the next couple of years.
Speaker 1: And then yes, it's gonna go up because it's gone up.
Speaker 1: It's like buying a house. Buying a house, even a recession,
Speaker 1: it's always eventually going to go back up. In terms
Speaker 1: of value. Unless somehow the economy does something it has
Speaker 1: not done over the last fifty years, the salary cap
Speaker 1: is gonna go up probably ten percent year to year
Speaker 1: with the exception of the next two years because we're
Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic which we've never seen.
Speaker 1: With that Bubby Bucky Brooks joins us here on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Trading on the Dan Patrick Show helped me out.
Speaker 1: In your mind, did Pat Mahomes miss an opportunity because
Speaker 1: he didn't get a fully guaranteed contract? Now, I don't
Speaker 1: think he missed out on an opportunity dog. I think
Speaker 1: actually what he did is he kind of like made
Speaker 1: it a situation where it was a win win for
Speaker 1: both Heat and the team. Look are you talking about
Speaker 1: half a billion dollars that he could earn over a
Speaker 1: team year period. Given the state of the pandemic and
Speaker 1: the uncertainty does a hit, sometimes it's smarter to grab
Speaker 1: the money when you can. And I know there are
Speaker 1: people that are said he should play the short term
Speaker 1: game and keep re up and re up and re up,
Speaker 1: and but we don't know what the revenue situation is
Speaker 1: going to look like and how the TV deals are
Speaker 1: going to impact it and such, and the way the
Speaker 1: deal is structured, he made it very team friendly at
Speaker 1: the front end, So at least in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one twenty twenty two they can keep guys like howiek
Speaker 1: Kill and Travis Kelsey in. They can resign Chris Jones
Speaker 1: if they on too, and keep a pass rusher and
Speaker 1: those things, so the vehicles are in place for him
Speaker 1: to get paid, and get paid handsomely because you talk
Speaker 1: about an average of forty five million dollars annually while
Speaker 1: also allowing the team to win and compute at a
Speaker 1: high level, and also just know that there's some kickers
Speaker 1: in that deal that will allow him to get back
Speaker 1: to the table if he wants to. But on the surface,
Speaker 1: locking yourself up for twelve years in a marketplace that
Speaker 1: can't provide you with an opportunity to make more money
Speaker 1: seems like maybe he jumped a gun. But in my mind,
Speaker 1: I think it was a smart move because he got
Speaker 1: the money, he got the security, while also given the
Speaker 1: team an opportunity to have a flexibility to keep a
Speaker 1: championship caliper squad around him. That's why Sammy Watkins needs
Speaker 1: to take a pay cut, right. I mean, look, I'm
Speaker 1: asking the same. Yeah, he did a team friendly deal
Speaker 1: to keep players arousal, Sammy Watkins has to take a
Speaker 1: pay cut. My only point, Buckie, is that of all
Speaker 1: the players out there with the resume, who could have
Speaker 1: been able to broker a deal to get it fully guaranteed,
Speaker 1: whether it was ten year contract extension or six or
Speaker 1: five or whatever it is. He was in that position
Speaker 1: because of what he was able to accomplish in two
Speaker 1: years of starting an MVP a super Bowl. That franchise
Speaker 1: hadn't won anything in fifty years. So that's really my
Speaker 1: point is that he had a chance to do something different,
Speaker 1: to maybe change the pay structure, to maybe give NFL
Speaker 1: players the idea that they should be fully compensated and
Speaker 1: not have phony contracts that teams can get out at
Speaker 1: any point. But players don't have the same options. And
Speaker 1: that's where I think he missed a golden opportunity because
Speaker 1: we saw Kirk Cousins get that kind of deal as
Speaker 1: a free agent, and he didn't have nearly the resume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kirk Gusins had vehicles in place where he took flash
Speaker 1: and he wanted a fully guarantee deal and he got
Speaker 1: that in. Look, it depends on what your individual agenda is.
Speaker 1: If your individual agenda is to break the banking go
Speaker 1: down as a legend when it comes to negotiating contracts,
Speaker 1: then cool, you can do it that way. But if
Speaker 1: your goal is to get the money that you want
Speaker 1: while also having an opportunity to compete their championship levels.
Speaker 1: Because we remember, we just quarterbacks. Even though people won't
Speaker 1: say this, we judging based on whether they've winning and
Speaker 1: they can win brains and so Fat Mahomes is looking
Speaker 1: around in Savanna the landscape and saying, I need to
Speaker 1: have the talent around me to play at the level
Speaker 1: that I'm playing at. Yes, he's a number one player
Speaker 1: in the league right now and in the face of
Speaker 1: the National Football League, gives in a position to, as
Speaker 1: they say, chase wings and build a dynasty and all
Speaker 1: those things. But he also knows he has to have
Speaker 1: the weapons of people around him. As it relates to
Speaker 1: like Sammy Watkins and those things. I would say this
Speaker 1: about Sammy Watkins. Sammy Watkins is not Kyrie Hill. Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins is boy the complimentary player more so than the
Speaker 1: number one. The guys that they realize are their blue
Speaker 1: chair players. They certainly can find the money to pay
Speaker 1: those guys according to what their market value is. Those
Speaker 1: other guys they don't have to get in where they fit.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where Sammy Watkins is. Sammy Watkins
Speaker 1: a TV and Bill overpaid for the last couple of
Speaker 1: years anyway, So that's you know, he's our fourth best
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's making fourteen for the best catchupent. You're
Speaker 1: making fourteen million dollars. You're arguing for Sammy Watkins, Rob
Speaker 1: and Enjoy that Island, Doug Golly, Brob Parker and in
Speaker 1: the Dan nets Um okay. I mean. Perfect example of
Speaker 1: what can happen even to quarterbacks is Cam Newton. Right.
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's the because of injury the Carolina Panthers and
Speaker 1: it ended up cutting him. Right. He got all the
Speaker 1: money in his contract until the guarantees were up, and
Speaker 1: he got paid all those guarantees and then he was
Speaker 1: a free agent on the market and he signed for
Speaker 1: the Veterans minimum. Bucky, do we know what Cam Newton
Speaker 1: looks like? And I ask you this from this perspective.
Speaker 1: I talked to some NFL people before this happened. They
Speaker 1: were like I didn't like what I saw of him
Speaker 1: throwing the football last year in terms of a of
Speaker 1: a new throwing motion since the shoulder surgery. You add
Speaker 1: to it the Liz Frank injury and all the other
Speaker 1: contact injuries he's taken. Like, do we know what Cam
Speaker 1: Newton will look like when he takes a football field? No,
Speaker 1: I mean, no one knows. But like, we don't know
Speaker 1: that about anybody. Do we know what Nick Folds is
Speaker 1: gonna look like when he plays? Like, we don't know
Speaker 1: anything about those guys. I think what we do know
Speaker 1: for certain is that, look, Cam Newton is a talented player.
Speaker 1: Cam Newton at his best has been an MVP caliber
Speaker 1: player that is capable of getting his team to a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. We also know that Cam Newton was a
Speaker 1: number one overall pick, and those other quarterbacks that are
Speaker 1: on the Patriots roster they weren't. Jared said him is
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. And look, I'll say that they
Speaker 1: could have won with him, But all the people that
Speaker 1: are here canne flash of Jared said him. It's kind
Speaker 1: of adiculous when you compare the two and then Brian Horry.
Speaker 1: We've seen Brian Hoyer played for a decade and he
Speaker 1: is what he is. I think what the patriotscy and
Speaker 1: Cam Newton is a guy who has a set of
Speaker 1: skills that they can build an offensive round, a guy
Speaker 1: who when he's right and healthy, they certainly can use
Speaker 1: him as a runner. And I think this is what
Speaker 1: you have to understand about Bill Belichick and defensive minded coaches.
Speaker 1: Defensive minded coaches typically like they have quarterbacks that give
Speaker 1: them the those problems. If you go back and look
Speaker 1: at this close in twenty seventeen when he called Cam
Speaker 1: Newton public enemy number one, because it's a difficulty that
Speaker 1: he presents as a guy that can run it, can
Speaker 1: throw it, can do so many different things. I believe
Speaker 1: because they're not necessarily deeply invested in Cam Newton. Man,
Speaker 1: I think you can see them Ryan Cam Newton. I
Speaker 1: think you see them put them on the remitters. You
Speaker 1: can see Cam Newton at his best. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this, and I'm trying being on record, this will
Speaker 1: be the best coaching that Cam Newton has ever received
Speaker 1: in his NFL career. And if he takes to the
Speaker 1: coaching and becomes real galit in with the preparation part
Speaker 1: of how the Patriots get ready, we will see the
Speaker 1: best Cam Newton that we've seen in this league. And
Speaker 1: I think that's a scary thought. The teams in AFC,
Speaker 1: Bucky Washington is in the midst of changing its name.
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder said it would never happen under his watch.
Speaker 1: Was it a combination of the financials from sponsors or
Speaker 1: whatnot that that got this happening, or the mood and
Speaker 1: the movement of the country going on? Certain what motivated
Speaker 1: him the moment. It certainly didn't come from the bottom
Speaker 1: of his heart that he woke up one day and said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think I'm gonna move away from
Speaker 1: this racial slur in the nickname of my team. I
Speaker 1: think the financial implications led him to make the move.
Speaker 1: And now the thing is, Rob I'm from North Carolina,
Speaker 1: but I have a lot of family in DC, and
Speaker 1: the Chocolate City loves Washington. No, they love that franchise.
Speaker 1: They carry the franchise more than any other team in
Speaker 1: any other sand Face and so, but this is a
Speaker 1: situation where they're trying to make right. This is an
Speaker 1: opportunity for Washington to reset the brand, to really capitalize
Speaker 1: on it. If he really embrace the opportunity, to kind
Speaker 1: of reset and rebuild the franchise, rebuild the brand. Then
Speaker 1: you talk about he can make hand over fists and
Speaker 1: money with new uniforms and new merchandise and new logos
Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. And so it's about embracing
Speaker 1: the opportunity. It's something that we knew was coming. And look, man,
Speaker 1: what has happened in the last six months. Like we've
Speaker 1: seen so many different things happened in twenty twenty. But
Speaker 1: this is kind of like a seismic sea change, and
Speaker 1: so people are having to embrace the change. And I
Speaker 1: think Washington, like Cleveland and Baseball and Atlanta and some
Speaker 1: of these other they're going to have to change the
Speaker 1: way they do business because but and you can't go
Speaker 1: about doing this because Native Americans have been the only
Speaker 1: group that has been singled out to kind of be
Speaker 1: a moniker and an imagery and in a mascot that
Speaker 1: we no longer can can it tell in this country? Wait? Wait,
Speaker 1: so Braves is a bad thing. I'm struggling with that one. Nah.
Speaker 1: So the Braves in terms of the Tamaha Shop and
Speaker 1: some of the imagery that have been on the Braves uniforms,
Speaker 1: like when they had Chief Wahoo and those things like
Speaker 1: those things are not necessarily representative of where we're going
Speaker 1: when it comes to the way to be represent the
Speaker 1: entire country. So they're having to have conversations about that
Speaker 1: and are they squared away with the Native Americans that
Speaker 1: are in that area or whatever, just like Florida State
Speaker 1: and some of the other schools that are representative with
Speaker 1: Native American logos and imagery. Bucky, awesome stuff. I just
Speaker 1: listened to the most recent pot It's a good one
Speaker 1: about you know, kind of going back over the first
Speaker 1: round draft picks. You and DJ do an amazing job.
Speaker 1: It's called Move the Sticks downloaded if you can check
Speaker 1: them out on the NFL Network. Continued health and safety
Speaker 1: to your family and your friends. Thanks so much for
Speaker 1: joining us, all right, Buck, appreciate Bucky Brooks one of
Speaker 1: the good guys. Former NFL player of course analysts for
Speaker 1: the NFL Network and Move the Sticks podcast. All right.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, We're heading into another weekend with limited sports,
Speaker 1: but the NBA is very very much on the horizon.
Speaker 1: Our NBA players kind of making fools of themselves with
Speaker 1: some of their posts on social media. We'll discuss next.
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Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live. Doug Gottliebron Parker in for
Speaker 1: Dan and the Danettes the Dan Patrick's Show. So I
Speaker 1: believe all the teams that are going to the bubble.
Speaker 1: In the NBA Bubble are in Orlando. JR. Smith apparently
Speaker 1: was told to shut down the IG Live because he
Speaker 1: was showing too much stuff. The Dallas Mavericks had some
Speaker 1: of their guys were DJ and outside. There's been some
Speaker 1: fun things, but there have been a lot of complaints
Speaker 1: about the quality of food and the quality of stay
Speaker 1: in the NBA bubble. Robot's your reaction to it, I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised. I think that the NBA, when you ask
Speaker 1: millionaires to put themselves in a very unfamiliar situation, a lockdown,
Speaker 1: that you gotta make it as lavish and as great
Speaker 1: to make them feel comfortable. These are people who are
Speaker 1: used to the finer things in life, and I know
Speaker 1: Rondo tweeted out something or put on Instagram that he
Speaker 1: was in a Motel six or something like it. He
Speaker 1: took pictures of the room, saying it was in the
Speaker 1: motif of a Motel six not knocking people stay at
Speaker 1: Motel sixes. But I think maybe at the NBA uh
Speaker 1: didn't go all out and probably should have in a
Speaker 1: situation like this, when you're asking people to make such
Speaker 1: a commitment and do something that is very uh different
Speaker 1: and unusual to what they're used to. Yeah, I mean like, look,
Speaker 1: I have friends that are in the in the NBA,
Speaker 1: and they're like, look, we're we like the nicest hotel
Speaker 1: by their estimations, like the Peninsula Hotel in Chicago. Like
Speaker 1: when you're used to stay at the Peninsula, when you
Speaker 1: used to stay in at four seasons, you know, when
Speaker 1: you used to stay in it at the best of
Speaker 1: the best. There is going to be a drop off.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, Like, look, man, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if you're aware, but there's thirty million people that are
Speaker 1: out of work and you're you're still getting paid at
Speaker 1: a at an unbelievable level. It's a bit of it.
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a sacrifice. But it's not like
Speaker 1: you're bunking up with six other dudes in two beds
Speaker 1: like we used to in au like it's just not
Speaker 1: a great look. You can say like they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: have their own chefs once they get out of quarantine,
Speaker 1: their own chefs, Like we're gonna be the best we can.
Speaker 1: But I think you end up having in You don't
Speaker 1: get sympathy. You're like, look, the common man spends all
Speaker 1: the money they can to go sit up in the
Speaker 1: upper deck and watch you play once or twice a year.
Speaker 1: That those are the real fans of the NBA. I
Speaker 1: get that. But that doesn't mean that if you're used
Speaker 1: to a certain standard of living U and it ain't
Speaker 1: what you're used to, Doug, that you can't say anything
Speaker 1: that you have to be mom and act like everything's
Speaker 1: great when it's not. But but but but say but
Speaker 1: say but Saying something on social media is different than
Speaker 1: saying something to Rob Polinka or saying something to the
Speaker 1: NBA or going to the NBAPA and going like, hey man,
Speaker 1: we gotta we got to improve this thing. That that's
Speaker 1: how you like what what warle are you living in?
Speaker 1: Do you know what social media is and what people
Speaker 1: do on it all the time? Yes? And this is
Speaker 1: this is this is one of the trappings of social media. Well,
Speaker 1: but this is this is this is like, this is
Speaker 1: like the guy who's flying on American Airlines and his
Speaker 1: flights delayed and instead of going to the counter and
Speaker 1: having a discussion, they tweet out that American Airlines is
Speaker 1: the worst because my fight was delayed and my bag
Speaker 1: was lost. Like yo, look, relax, things happen. We have
Speaker 1: to be reasonable about it. Like we can't. There's just
Speaker 1: not enough rooms at the four seasons. There's not one
Speaker 1: city we can put you in. This is the best.
Speaker 1: This was negotiated over months, and this is the best
Speaker 1: thing we come up with. And it still means that, Doug,
Speaker 1: if something is not up the standards, that you should
Speaker 1: still have the right to voice your opinion whether you
Speaker 1: have right right. And I can tell you that it
Speaker 1: to most dudes. You sit there and go like, dude,
Speaker 1: what Like I saw Patrick Beverly's and Patrick Beverly's got
Speaker 1: gaming un He's gotta make the best of a situation.
Speaker 1: And part of it is Pat Beverly's played overseas. He
Speaker 1: knows just how good dudes have it in comparison to
Speaker 1: the NBA. And I get it. Somebody else, no question
Speaker 1: for no question, and he has Rondo has every right
Speaker 1: to complain, to complain publicly, I think ends up having
Speaker 1: the type of negative fact. We're like, dude, really really,
Speaker 1: because having stayed at a motel six, I can tell
Speaker 1: you that ain't what it looks like, right, And you're like,
Speaker 1: you just you have to be understanding and reasonable, and
Speaker 1: you make yourself out to be an entitled a hole.
Speaker 1: That's what you look. Maybe he was in the tub
Speaker 1: relaxing and realized that there was a mouse in there
Speaker 1: with them. I mean, I don't I don't know. Would
Speaker 1: that make you feel good? No? I just again, I
Speaker 1: you have the right to complain. I just think complaining
Speaker 1: on social media is like, hey, look how bad we
Speaker 1: have it? Like, I think you're unrealistic to think that
Speaker 1: everybody's going to follow the rules. No one's gonna say
Speaker 1: speak out a turn. I don't think that's a realistic
Speaker 1: approach to life. That's not how things work. And sometimes
Speaker 1: a squeaky wheel gets the oil. So maybe they can
Speaker 1: do better if it's not up to par, that's all.
Speaker 1: It's not the end of world, I get it. I
Speaker 1: just remember, at the end of the day, the fans
Speaker 1: do pay your salaries, and those fans are ones that
Speaker 1: many of them are out of work right now. They're like, yo,
Speaker 1: man like, seems like right to me. I get the
Speaker 1: food could be a little bit better. Do you tweet
Speaker 1: when you get a great meal? If you do, then
Speaker 1: I'll recognize a little bit better. He Rob Parker. Check
Speaker 1: him out on The Odd Couple. Check out the Doug
Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show. Come up later, Dan's back Monday's Stan Patrick Show.