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Speaker 1: ninety years old, Full of vigor, Klante Gavin, What's going on,

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Speaker 1: I oppen tell yourself, young man. First of all, congratulations

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Speaker 1: being about me, has led me to have this type

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Speaker 1: of tenacity to keep pushing forward and to be proud

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Speaker 1: of who I am, and be proud of my skin,

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Speaker 1: and be proud of my job, and and say that

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Speaker 1: this is who I am, and I don't really care

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Speaker 1: if you if you like it or not. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to create a feat at the table, not just for me,

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Speaker 1: but people who look like me. And that has been

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Speaker 1: something that I've been very steadfast and determined to do

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Speaker 1: from the time, you know, I really set foot on

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Speaker 1: the Sensing strip at twelve years old. Now it's interesting

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Speaker 1: you're saying that because the fact that you have a

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Speaker 1: fashion line and uh, it's called Louis right after my grandmother,

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Speaker 1: your grandmother. I went to the website and I went, wow,

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Speaker 1: this looks very good, looks very very fashion forward. And

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Speaker 1: so what made you go into that line? Because you know,

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Speaker 1: this is just me alright, I'm gonna just say this.

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Speaker 1: You know, because reading your story, I constantly you constantly

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Speaker 1: wanted to have fun, You constantly want to be a

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Speaker 1: regular person, but your but your lifestyle. People always wanted

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Speaker 1: to treat you different when you walked in the room

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Speaker 1: or I had not remarked, so bullied you, especially in

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Speaker 1: your middle school, in your high school years. And then

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Speaker 1: you come out with a fashion line. And we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about the doll in a minute, but let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that and the importance of designing that and laying

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Speaker 1: out a footprint of who you are and what people

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Speaker 1: can do and uh in this in this lifestyle. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: as a sports ambassador for the US State Department and

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Speaker 1: also as a public figure within the Muslim community for

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Speaker 1: a really long time, I've had, you know, events where

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking in front of you know, a thousand, two thousand,

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Speaker 1: three thousand people. And as a Muslim woman, I want

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Speaker 1: to be modest in what I wear. So I struggled

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Speaker 1: to find fashionable, modest options in the US market, to

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Speaker 1: be honest, and I was ordering a lot of things

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Speaker 1: from overseas, and I just kind of arrived at a

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Speaker 1: point in my life where I'm like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: there's a void, there's a need for this in the

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Speaker 1: United States. Nobody's doing it well. And my siblings and

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Speaker 1: I decided that we would do that. So we literally

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Speaker 1: started our company in Los Angeles a leap of faith

467
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Speaker 1: and really out of necessity. It was time for there

468
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Speaker 1: to be something that's made here in the United States

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Speaker 1: for women who want to dress modestly but also be fashionable.

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Speaker 1: Being modest doesn't mean being douty or wearing dark colors.

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Speaker 1: I mean muscle women like anyone else, want to express

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Speaker 1: ourselves through what our what we wear, and it just

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Speaker 1: seemed very fitting for me. Am I so links to

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Speaker 1: start the company really quickly. I went to Rwanda last

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Speaker 1: summer UM on like a service trip for the State's

476
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Speaker 1: department and with a nonprofit, and it's really interesting to

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Speaker 1: see a country that's experienced um such a traumatic event

478
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Speaker 1: within the last years and how toxpope with it. They

479
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Speaker 1: talk about the genocide every day, They have a memorial,

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Speaker 1: they have memorial museums, and they have these different um

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Speaker 1: trips where they're constantly bringing people and it's very new.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of tears that are still shed because

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Speaker 1: you know, like generations were lost and you have people

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Speaker 1: who committed you know, the killing next to survivors having

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Speaker 1: to live side by side. But I think what's really

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Speaker 1: what's really important to learn about Rwanda is that they

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Speaker 1: talk about what happened. They educate their kids so that

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen again. And that's something that I think

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Speaker 1: we're failing miserably as Americans because we don't talk about

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Speaker 1: our history if it's bad, or if it's in any

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Speaker 1: way shape or forming close, black or brown bodies, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's how we arrive at this moment in

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Speaker 1: time where you have, you know, so much police brutality,

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Speaker 1: you have families being separated as supporters because you know,

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Speaker 1: we we failed to educate ourselves on our own history

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Speaker 1: and what committed were great. I want to tell everybody,

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Speaker 1: please buy her book, it's called Proud. Please buy her

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Speaker 1: doll in the Sheiro line, Please buy her fashion line.

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Speaker 1: She's a she's a marketing genius, and she's a social

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Speaker 1: activist and she's creating change when she walks out the door.

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Speaker 1: Please thank you for calling my show. This is money

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Speaker 1: I'm always happy to have all my guests. But my

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Speaker 1: next guest has an eclectic background. I said, collect That's

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Speaker 1: the word I've never used on a show. But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna use you to her because she's eclectic. She was

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Speaker 1: the first African American to receive a PhD and social

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Speaker 1: work from my alma alma Mallor University Houston Graduate School

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Speaker 1: of Social Work. In two thousand two. She earned a

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Speaker 1: master's in public health from the University of Texas Health

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Speaker 1: Science Center School of Public Health and a Bachelor of

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Speaker 1: Science degree a chemistry from the Historic Third Word straight

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Speaker 1: out of Third World Texas, Texas Southern University, where she

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Speaker 1: was the receiption recipient of a twenty level Distinguished Alumni Award.

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Speaker 1: That's huge. That's huge right there. She's a social scientist

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Speaker 1: and inner spirit life coach. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: Dr Melanie Wilson. Hello, Hello, and Sean. What's that enough

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Speaker 1: that doesn't enough about you? Does enough about it? I

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Speaker 1: was like, who, here's that person? You don't guess that person?

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct. It is pretty effective. And people often

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Speaker 1: wonder how the journey brought me here. There the things

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Speaker 1: that I'm doing now that I'm passionate about it that

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Speaker 1: I love, which is related to strengthening the inner court.

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Speaker 1: And I tell you, um, I didn't realize that you

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Speaker 1: will a love my to the university. Man, well so

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Speaker 1: we are cougars. Yes, man, we are true cougus. You're

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Speaker 1: tiger a cougar at all? About that you look at

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Speaker 1: you are the movie av a talk that you you

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Speaker 1: got all the beast of the jungle out there, the

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Speaker 1: big five, the big the big five, as they say.

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Speaker 1: When I appreciate you having me on, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for the invitation. I'm glad to be here. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you know, I'm glad to have you

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Speaker 1: on the show. And I want to talk about that

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Speaker 1: education might always talk about. See I changed my major

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Speaker 1: several times before I eventually got a degree of mathematics

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Speaker 1: and my minor and sociology. And you know, not saying

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Speaker 1: that you change your degree, but I always like to

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Speaker 1: see people who allow themselves to expand allow themselves to say,

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Speaker 1: not be pigeonholed. And I looked at your degree in

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Speaker 1: social work, you know, public health, uh, chemistry. That diversity

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Speaker 1: really allows you to communicate a lot of different levels

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Speaker 1: and to be able to walk into the room and

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Speaker 1: be very comfortable when you speak. Is that God is correct?

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Speaker 1: That is correct? And I tell you I was really um,

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Speaker 1: I was just that obedient child, and you know when

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Speaker 1: my dad said, need to go to text or southing

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Speaker 1: and major in chemistry, and that's what I did. And

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Speaker 1: I did that and I enjoyed that until I had

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to work with the Court and of Energy

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Speaker 1: one summer for an internship, a summer internship, and we

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Speaker 1: were dowing auto clay. You know, it was Colic paltoption research,

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Speaker 1: and we were working with auto clay and I would

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Speaker 1: just in the process and I was like saying to myself,

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Speaker 1: I just can't imagine working in a lab like this,

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Speaker 1: you know, for the rest of my life. I want

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Speaker 1: to have healthy babies. I'm not sure this is really

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Speaker 1: a good fit for me. But I was always that

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Speaker 1: obedient child. I said, you know, I've come too far

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Speaker 1: not to go on and finishes with the degree. For

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Speaker 1: I went on and I got the degree, and I

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Speaker 1: went into UM the master's program here in the health

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Speaker 1: Frankston and in in Houston at the University of Texas. And

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Speaker 1: when I saw that they were having initially in toxicology,

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Speaker 1: but when I saw they were having so much fun

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Speaker 1: and and family and community health, I was like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, San, That's where I need to be because

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Speaker 1: I just spent my personality. I've always spend a compassionate

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Speaker 1: and epathetic type of person and so that's when I

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Speaker 1: started navigating my sales towards in a direction that I

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Speaker 1: was really comfortable with. And so from there, um, I

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Speaker 1: just kind of blocked them and and had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to go on and get my doctors in social work,

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Speaker 1: which was which was as phenomenal, and from it and

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Speaker 1: now I am just doing what I chose and to

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Speaker 1: do I and I just I think it's a great,

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Speaker 1: incredible journey, and I would encourage people, you know what,

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Speaker 1: no matter what you're doing, it it's not what you

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Speaker 1: really want to do, you can always navigate yourself and

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Speaker 1: move towards the directions that most makes you. Laugh doctor doctor, Um,

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Speaker 1: don't give you credit now, don't. We're just laying out

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Speaker 1: it gives a lot of docs out there. There aren't doctors,

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Speaker 1: you know. So I'm just going to say the whole world, doctor,

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Speaker 1: how do I just want to navigate that? How do

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Speaker 1: want to make a decision to to create change in

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Speaker 1: their life, especially when they just sit around based on fear,

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Speaker 1: because that's why people don't make change. They're afraid. How

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Speaker 1: does want to navigate that change. Well, you know, the

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Speaker 1: first thing they have to do in that process, and

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Speaker 1: I've been refer to it as understanding this journey that

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Speaker 1: we're actually on. And that's how the inter spirit part

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Speaker 1: comes into play with um, what I do and what

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Speaker 1: I gonna help, you know, God people into that direction

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Speaker 1: in terms of navigation, and I think that people understand

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Speaker 1: that they have the power us who we to choose

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Speaker 1: the mission that they want to have in this life.

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Speaker 1: Then the first step is to first identify and understand

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Speaker 1: that you have that power. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: times people feel powerless in this process. So you have

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Speaker 1: to kind of break it down. And I always say

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Speaker 1: you trying to have to deconstruct to reconstruct your life.

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Speaker 1: And when you know with themselves that you know you

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Speaker 1: are just not content with what the outcome is and

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Speaker 1: and in the direction that things are going, that's the

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Speaker 1: first step is to identify that you know that within stuff,

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Speaker 1: and then you have to figure out what it is

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Speaker 1: you want to do. You know, what is the mission

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Speaker 1: that you want to be on and develop an action

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Speaker 1: plan to achieve that, to to get on the right trust,

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Speaker 1: to to live the life of your deeds, to do

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Speaker 1: things if you want. Let's Michelle, let me give you

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Speaker 1: an example of what it is that I do so

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Speaker 1: so wizards can understand how this process works. And this

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Speaker 1: is a good analogy. Let's say you're drinking a cup

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Speaker 1: of coffee and somebody bumps into you and you still

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Speaker 1: the coffee. Okay, you still the coffee. You know why

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Speaker 1: you fill the coffee because coffee is what was in

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Speaker 1: the cup. It seems within the cup you wouldn't still

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Speaker 1: the tea. And so the analogy that I'm making is

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Speaker 1: is what's inside of you when you get bumped in,

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Speaker 1: like when you are unsure in life, when things are

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Speaker 1: happening to you, what's inside of you is what comes up.

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Speaker 1: And so as an industry a life coach, and when

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Speaker 1: I focus on that, foods up the spirit. When I

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Speaker 1: focused on instructening that inside of a person, that's how

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Speaker 1: they get out of that fear as they're able to

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Speaker 1: make the tangible step to do what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Because what comes what's inside of you is what comes out.

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Speaker 1: So it is exide that comes out of angers inside

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Speaker 1: when life functions, when things happen, that's what comes out.

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Speaker 1: Its rage, it jealousy of resentment. But if I can

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Speaker 1: get people to strengthen the other things that should be

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Speaker 1: inside of their court, which is love, joy, peace, kindness, business, facefulness,

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Speaker 1: the most important self control, then they have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do what you're saying to turn it around. And

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Speaker 1: that's and that's kind of what I focused on. You

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Speaker 1: cannot protect anybody's the point that they can't experience life.

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Speaker 1: You gotta allow them experienced life. But while they're experience

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Speaker 1: in life is that's that's the part that you know,

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Speaker 1: I really am enjoying this conversation because you know it's

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Speaker 1: what your your social scientists and your inner spirit life coach,

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Speaker 1: which I think is really important to hear on this

667
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Speaker 1: show because people want to make change. That's why I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that that that millennial generation decided to say,

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Speaker 1: you know something, I don't want to work for anybody.

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Speaker 1: I want to work for me. And they get really

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Speaker 1: cute because of that. I was listening to a show

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Speaker 1: driving in this morning. It was really cuteing, um, you know, millennials,

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Speaker 1: because they don't save. I was trying to figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 1: when I was twenty eight, what was I saving? When

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Speaker 1: I was thirty four, what was I saving? I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out what is When did the rules? When

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Speaker 1: did the rules that that that that that eighteen to

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Speaker 1: thirty four age group, and each each generation was saving money,

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Speaker 1: they were that they were that worthy to stay. You

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Speaker 1: know something, I'm a save for my future, you know something.

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Speaker 1: When you're that age, there is no future. The future

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Speaker 1: is now. Why can I get my car? Where can

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Speaker 1: I get my house? Where can I give me some

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Speaker 1: new shoes? And so when I hear people criticize millennials,

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Speaker 1: I'm going like, Okay, are you kidding me? Are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? At twenty nine years old? Who do you

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Speaker 1: know was saving money? Who was thinking about that the

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Speaker 1: stock market at twenty nine years of age on a

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Speaker 1: regular job. You know, if you if your company was

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Speaker 1: like I worked at IBM and they had that little

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Speaker 1: sharing program. You you pay a dollar, they pay a dollar,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that that helped me out, that got

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Speaker 1: me to that into the stock game. But again that

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Speaker 1: was my company had that program at that time. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that program exists today because people hold you

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Speaker 1: accountable everything you said in public. But Sean said this

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Speaker 1: he way back then, way back then, when I was working. Now,

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Speaker 1: they might not do that right now, So don't hold

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Speaker 1: me account, but I'll just letting you know is that

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Speaker 1: when I look at people criticized, there's so many people

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Speaker 1: want to criticize people when they want to be themselves,

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Speaker 1: when they want to make decisions for themselves that benefit them,

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Speaker 1: that they get criticized for that. And I just feel

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Speaker 1: that that generation is being pressurized, especially with social media.

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Speaker 1: You post the picture, you're like, you don't like share,

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Speaker 1: you know, remember right I did? I posted one of

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Speaker 1: my videos and somebody told me, you know, I look gay? Huh?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. How do you look at I was

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Speaker 1: of my interview? Just say I look at other person?

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Speaker 1: You bear too dark? Your beer too dark? Okay? What

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Speaker 1: the heck is this? What these are the criticist that

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Speaker 1: you get in social media, and so you have to

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Speaker 1: deal with these issues about okay, if you if you

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Speaker 1: take that personal, then you could be walking down the

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Speaker 1: street trying to walk in a certain way. Well, people

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Speaker 1: talking about out walk. I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 1: You know you know what my beer too dog got?

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Speaker 1: I gotta change their look, you know. But people can

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Speaker 1: get it to your heads with these with these negative statements,

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Speaker 1: and they can change your your objectives, your plans. And

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Speaker 1: so it's good to listen to young people when they

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Speaker 1: when they unsure, just calm them down, say what's your

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Speaker 1: what's your problem? Don't don't don't ignore that, ignore that

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Speaker 1: ignorant people are talking. The ignorant people know the other things,

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Speaker 1: you know the other thing. They'll be reshigned if they

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Speaker 1: will can to suppress or ignore who they really are,

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Speaker 1: to will this NAS for society, for their currents, for

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Speaker 1: their files, for for for all these other things. They

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Speaker 1: well this n and they really suppressed who they really

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Speaker 1: are because of judgment, because of what they see other

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Speaker 1: people may think or say about them. And so what

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Speaker 1: you have is with society of people who can't be real.

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Speaker 1: They can't be real, being real it's not accepted. And

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Speaker 1: so that's why people find themselves in the situations that

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Speaker 1: they're in because they're not authentic. They're not living in

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Speaker 1: authentic life. And that's why we do what we do.

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Speaker 1: You know, we focus on peeling about those lads. We

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Speaker 1: allow people to understand that you can live and authentic

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Speaker 1: life and be proud of it. Many people are wearing

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Speaker 1: a mask. And I'm gonna tell you something else to Sean.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that their social economic status is. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if they have J D or m D

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Speaker 1: are walking around here with the mask on. With the

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Speaker 1: mask on, I've taken that mask off. I would tell

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Speaker 1: people removed to stop sign, and you take off the

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Speaker 1: removed to stop sign because people are holding up stop

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Speaker 1: sized in front of their face, stopping them for success,

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Speaker 1: stopping them from an opportunity to move forward. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I want to say thank you for coming on my show. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: I exec you know, because you know, when you can

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Speaker 1: start being successful, I like to believe a success you

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Speaker 1: start having regulars. I like to see if I can

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Speaker 1: have you as a regular on my show. Absolutely. After that,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to build a build a platform, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and touch this to another level for so we

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Speaker 1: can share people's stories. So everyone can here going to

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Speaker 1: realize they are not alone and facing many of life

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Speaker 1: challenges and that they can overcome whatever they're going through,

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Speaker 1: no matter how close it is to Shan and you

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Speaker 1: keep and now I'm coming to Houston and I want

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Speaker 1: right now Rushaun's coming. Everybody keep women. Thank you, Dr Lawson.

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you when you right four years ago.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I never forgot run you never forgotten.

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Speaker 1: I was actually right this this brother want to talk

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Speaker 1: to me? Hey, man, you know something you know Robinney. Uh.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Man, congratulations on your success. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: get that out of the way first, because of the

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Speaker 1: fact that you know, it's an interesting era that we

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Speaker 1: have with African American talent on town. I know, you

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Speaker 1: know your Trinidaddy, and you know, let's let's put that

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Speaker 1: out there. Let's put that out there correctly. And so

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Speaker 1: so we're working. We're working. We're working not just on

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Speaker 1: reality shows. You know, that was a period where reality

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Speaker 1: shows dominated African American presence on television. So what do

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Speaker 1: you think is happening at the just just feel us

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Speaker 1: a little bit of detail about about what's going on

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Speaker 1: in your world, and we're gonna go to some funny

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Speaker 1: things that you're doing. And I saw that. I saw

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Speaker 1: that prison logic. Man, we gotta talk about that. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about mine, all right, man. And that's

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Speaker 1: the well. Right after that, I want to start by

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Speaker 1: saying thank you, really seriously, thank you. I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: you having me on and my brother following up on

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Speaker 1: your word. I appreciate that too, um. And I want

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Speaker 1: to congratulate you on hall of your success as well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Um uh yeah. I remem when we first met,

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Speaker 1: like I think it might have been on the on

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Speaker 1: the Steve Harvey Show, and I was but man, did

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Speaker 1: I did that? Brother? Man? You were solid dude, man.

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Speaker 1: And so anyway to be here talking to you with

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Speaker 1: the privilege to answer your question my duty. I think

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Speaker 1: that's something. I think that part of the major shift

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Speaker 1: is I believe to like the report came out, um

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Speaker 1: you know maybe like uh four years ago, it would

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Speaker 1: basically show that African American dollars responded like African Americans

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Speaker 1: as a whole responded, not as a whole, but just

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Speaker 1: the general audience of Africa, you know, TV audience African

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Speaker 1: responded to advertising, and I think that that kind of

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Speaker 1: set off an alarm uh um. And there were shows

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Speaker 1: that were kind of pioneering the way for that, shows

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Speaker 1: like Kevin Hart's UM, Real Husbands, h Hollywood. You know,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember some of the other shows. But because

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Speaker 1: the running pick my tone is a little early thing,

851
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna put it out there. You know, Anthony Anderson's show,

852
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: you know that Blackish, you know, and I remember I

853
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: talked like I remember before he came out, Anthony's called

854
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: me and I said, Anthony that title man's crazy, and

855
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: I brought him on the show. I still supported it,

856
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: brought him on Steve Show, helped launching launch of show,

857
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Speaker 1: had him set in for Steve, him and uh Tracy

858
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: Ellis Raw set in and four hour show to promote

859
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: because I always know, you gotta put the brand out there.

860
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Speaker 1: That's been the main thing about my theme has been

861
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: you gotta if people don't know you, they can't find you,

862
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: they can't find you, you gotta give them a choice.

863
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: And that's you know, and that's the thing. You know,

864
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: and look, I know people in your audiences are screaming

865
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Speaker 1: right now, don't forget scandal, don't forget by all the

866
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Speaker 1: day this shows, you know, don't get And they're right,

867
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Speaker 1: you know, but a lot of these shows came along,

868
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: and you know, um and a lot of the incentivize

869
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: these networks to begin, you know, having more diversity because

870
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: they saw that actually the black audience turned to support

871
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: you know, black content. And you know also like, uh,

872
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up in an era where you know,

873
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: we watched Dynasty and the Dukes of Hazards and shows.

874
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: That's what there was, you know what I mean. Don't

875
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I like Jeffersons and my favorite was

876
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: always the Jeffersons and and and and good Times. But

877
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: the reality there was is that we didn't have as

878
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: much representation. Now that there is much representation, people choose it,

879
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And people like to see

880
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: something of reflective likeness. They relate to it more, right,

881
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: often the content of speaking about things that they can

882
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: relate to. And he was on the marketing dollars and

883
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: so you know, when we see an advertisement, were actually

884
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: influenced by it, and that makes a huge different to

885
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: the people that are marketing you know, especially especially now

886
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: that people can go anywhere to watch television. You know,

887
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: and I read this book was breaking down how like

888
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: the people who even shop at Walmart don't even own

889
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: like external hardware for their televisions, meaning they don't have cable,

890
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: they don't have any kind of box. They're still watching

891
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: the regular network television. That plays a role in it

892
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: as well. But anyway, I'm sorry, I'm just going on.

893
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, Malcole.

894
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: That's what this show is about. That's why it's called

895
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: money Making Conversation. That's why I ru Sean McDonald's host

896
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: because I can bring talent like you. We're gonna talk

897
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: about your TV, You're gonna talk about all that, but

898
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: this you know, your mindset, because people need to understand

899
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: that there's a three sixty platform for a guy like

900
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: you to be successful as about as you are. You

901
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: you understand the business, you understand why you're not working,

902
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: why are you being chosen for roles, and how you

903
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: consistently can be there, And a lot of people don't

904
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: understand it. They really just think that just show up

905
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: and you just are just you for a role. If

906
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: you want longevity. You have to understand what you're walking

907
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: into and you're saying that, you're saying it, Yeah, you

908
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: really do. And you know the thing, uh, you know

909
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: that I think that we under I think that the

910
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: thing that we underestimate in the process of doing all

911
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: of this is that I've seen a lot of people

912
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: come before me, and um, I've seen them pissed off

913
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: this as many you know, big main people as I've

914
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: supposedly pissed off. And you know, because the fact that

915
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: they didn't want to do a job, you chose to

916
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: honor their integrity before honoring you know, their pockets. And

917
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: you know that's not a language that spoke very common

918
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Speaker 1: in in in uh in the HollyHood. And so people

919
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: with egos with we take it personally when you turned

920
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: down that projects. But what I have found is that

921
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, I founded slay to someone self preservation in

922
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: the sense that you know, I never thought this. I

923
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: always used to wonder should I get a bigger agents,

924
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: should have bigger manager, should do that? But when it

925
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: really boils down to it, your best representation of your

926
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: body of work in this business, that your best representation.

927
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: It will go out and speak on behalf of you

928
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: on every fritinal platform we know something about. Like seriously,

929
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: when I introduced you at the beginning Weed, which is

930
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: on Showtime, Um, that's when I first became a fan

931
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: of yours, you know. And it's because you took a character,

932
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: you know, and in that world you know, usually it

933
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: is rough, but you played it like it was. It

934
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: was funny, dangerous. Does that make sense? And and and

935
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: so when you when you can take a role and

936
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: then you can shape it, and I think that's what

937
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: you do, so feel that's what you do so well

938
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: with all your roles, you know, whether you play a butler,

939
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: or you playing some suave dude, or you playing a player,

940
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: or you playing a doctor or whatever, all these roles

941
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: you just shape it. How do you come up? How

942
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: do you make a decision on where you're gonna take

943
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: these characters? When you when you auditioning, Um, you know

944
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's like what I'll do, Like I

945
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: was doing it yesterday, I was saying for my show,

946
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: I just basically take those words and take the scenario.

947
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to know who you expect me to play.

948
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: I want to read it. Just read it like a

949
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: book and and then a nature, I just developed an

950
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: opinion about every person in the movie. And then I said,

951
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: who am I supposed to be playing that dude? Oh,

952
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: that dude, he's the so and so. Because I already

953
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: have a genuine opinion, I'm not thinking about it of

954
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: like thinking about it from the perspective of how should

955
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: I play this? No, I'm really just these characters and

956
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: to people I trying to think about, can I relate

957
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: this to real life and include not vality system and

958
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: to some degree or another, it's like, once you know

959
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: you can hunt your own food, the game change. Now Okay,

960
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: now you know what that means. Now romany, okay, Rushan mcdown.

961
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: It's promoting right now before tween, So I got to

962
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: be there for the twinter nineteen as well to come

963
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: back on this show promoter. Because this is a movie.

964
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: I'm just letting everybody know that it's outstanding. Um the

965
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: cash If everybody don't know what Regina Hall, one of

966
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: the most incredible comedic actresses in the game today has

967
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Speaker 1: that has down, has down this brilliant, brilliant and the

968
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: fact that you're doing this and but I wanted a

969
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: lot of independent people to hear this to let them

970
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: know that, yeah, there's no walk of shame and getting

971
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: your movie done, there's no walk of shame. And how

972
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: you get it distributed. The thing is that it's your dream.

973
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: But make sure you you know your tire thing up,

974
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: you know, make sure that you have the releases signed off.

975
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: Don't just have people talk about I show up. And

976
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: then also you get an opportunity to get your soul

977
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Speaker 1: and you run around trying to find releases to sign

978
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: off on. Be professional from day one, from up start.

979
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: And that's really and that's what you did with this movie.

980
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: But before we go, I wanted to bring up something

981
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: about this this social network that you have called life

982
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: management Tribe, you know stuff whoa okay, all right, okay,

983
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: So look man, when it really boils down to it,

984
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time. I used to spend

985
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: a lot. I used to be a White House consultant,

986
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: like literally the White House have becoming. They found me

987
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: in and asked me, oh, you know, how how can

988
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: we get better engagement? That kind of thing, and I

989
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: would go through my strategies with them. But you know,

990
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: I've sent a lot of time on social social media

991
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: and when I really stopped and ask myself what was

992
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: going on. Was like, you know, I didn't want to

993
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: gain nothing that I didn't add any value, you know

994
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: what I mean? And so I was like, I would

995
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: love to be a part of a social networks that

996
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: actually added value, that I could look to that maybe

997
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: it inspired me, maybe gave me insight on how to

998
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: have better health, but just keep me in the community

999
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: of positive people. And you know, with everything going on

1000
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: in politics right now, people just feel like they can

1001
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: just be as disrespectful and it's emotionally emotionally inconsiderate as

1002
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: they want to be. On social networks, you know, you

1003
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: could build up a huge audience and track a huge

1004
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: audience to Facebook platform and then out of nowhere, they

1005
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: change an algorithm and you no longer have access to

1006
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: to that audience. You got to pay them for the

1007
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: ardient you attracted today platform. That just all sounds backwards

1008
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: to me, and I've never been to do that's been

1009
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 1: comfortable with the status quo. So I was like, look,

1010
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: let me just create my own network and I'm just

1011
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: going to do an experiment. It's just an experiment, and

1012
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: I want to see if I invest as much time

1013
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: as I did in other platforms in my own platform,

1014
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: what what the results be. So that's what I've been

1015
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: doing in life management. Trial dot com is just basically

1016
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: that it's just a positive platform to people, you know.

1017
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: And I also I launch a podcast through which so

1018
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: I talk about things that are important to me. So

1019
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: right now I'm going over Anthony Williams book A Medical Medium,

1020
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: which has some really interesting philosophies, but ultimately man just

1021
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: a place that adds value. You go, you feel like

1022
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: you've got some information, you've got some encouragement, people hold

1023
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: you accountable. We have challenges on this getting its challenges.

1024
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: We just did a claim, the Clarella Claims Challenge, where

1025
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: we did Clarella for four days, nothing else, like a detox.

1026
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, It's real stuff, and you know,

1027
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: for me, that's just that's that's the life I live

1028
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: and that's what I want to be involved. And as

1029
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: a result of that, I don't really engage as much

1030
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: on the more you know, popular platforms because I'm usually

1031
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: involved in my own platform. But but the reward is

1032
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: much great of my brother and you know, and I've

1033
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: learned it ain't about reaching, it ain't about reaching four

1034
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: hundred million people. It's about reaching the people who want

1035
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: to reach you. And also it's like adding value to

1036
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: the people who add value to you, isn't it than

1037
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you. We're gonna talk soon, and I'm

1038
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: also going to promote this. Send me a banner so

1039
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: I can promote this on my website and also on

1040
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: my social media. I will promote my social media to

1041
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1042
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Speaker 1: to pick with you, and then I'm done. Can I

1043
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Speaker 1: pick that beef? For if I ever ever ever pronounce

1044
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