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Speaker 1: Thursday night. It is April second, now new month, knew

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Speaker 1: us the year of our lawer, twenty twenty. We as

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Speaker 1: a jam packed show tonight. In fact, it is so

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Speaker 1: our advanced intel says nothing much is going to happen

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Speaker 1: in the college football world between now and then. But

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Speaker 1: as nineteen of you, hopefully incounting, have already done. So tonight,

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Speaker 1: we're going all around the world of college football, quite literally.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to touch on Oregon and Mario Cristaball and

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Speaker 1: how if you're not already paying attention to them, you

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Speaker 1: that I've thought about, Brian Kelly and Notre Dame for

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Speaker 1: a little while. I was on Irish Illustrated dot com

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Speaker 1: earlier today with Tom Lloy and the guys over there,

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Speaker 1: there today. I also, we always get asked about stadiums,

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Speaker 1: don't get to see. And yes, back by extremely popular demand,

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Speaker 1: we've got more all access stories tonight, and specifically, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go a story that's going to span over

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Speaker 1: a three year period and it's going to involve Tennessee

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Speaker 1: of you love to hate on, even though he's captioned

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Speaker 1: like six figures per month from the University of Tennessee

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Speaker 1: to this day. And that would be Butch Jones. So

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Speaker 1: and I want to start with the following piece of

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Speaker 1: breaking news. Mario Christobaul is building a monster at Oregon,

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Speaker 1: and I want you to pay attention to how it's

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Speaker 1: happening because it's nothing new. It's a blueprint that's been

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Speaker 1: used before. It is duplicable. It's hard, it's not easy,

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Speaker 1: but it's duplicable. Do you remember the SEC before urban Meyer?

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Speaker 1: Take your mind back with me. Let's just fenure down

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Speaker 1: the road, down memory Lane together. Urban Meyer is at Utah.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer's tearing it up there and the SEC is

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Speaker 1: back then what the SEC was. And if you were

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Speaker 1: to use adjectives to describe Southeastern Conference football pre urban Meyer,

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Speaker 1: I wrote down power, physical, big. You understand that was

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Speaker 1: the style of play in the conference. Teams were really

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Speaker 1: when urban Meyer got hired at Florida. A lot of

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Speaker 1: folks I can tell you, if you're not from the South,

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Speaker 1: A lot of folks in the South snickered at Florida

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Speaker 1: the Mountain West. But this is the SEC, and Urban

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Speaker 1: Myer is about to learn a lesson in the SEC. Well,

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Speaker 1: the only lesson that was applied was by urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: to the rest of the SEC. Because what urban Meyer did,

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Speaker 1: there were still, make no mistake about it, elements of

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Speaker 1: Say what you will about his exit, Say what you

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Speaker 1: the same thing in the Big Ten. There were a

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Speaker 1: lot of those you know, gentlemen agreements and whatnot, and

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer kind of snickered and then said, what are

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Speaker 1: And so then he turned the rest of the Big

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Speaker 1: never lost, but he reinvented the way they do things

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Speaker 1: what Mario Christaball and the Oregon coaching staff are in

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Speaker 1: You would think that when I show you where the

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Speaker 1: universities that make up the PAC twelve conference are, that

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Speaker 1: But facts and reality presented such that you could walk

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Speaker 1: he's seen it done from his playing days at Miami.

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Speaker 1: But he also got to coach and recit under Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban for an extended period. He wasn't in Alabama one year.

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Speaker 1: the highest level, and he understands how to take that blueprint. Now.

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Speaker 1: is where you kind of have to have transcendent thinking. Yes, geographically,

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Speaker 1: the blueprint of the Pac twelve conference and flying clear

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Speaker 1: Ohio state and no Alabama. You got to put a

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Speaker 1: If they're not going to go to Ucla, you get them.

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Speaker 1: That's what Oregon has started to do. It's an inner

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Speaker 1: think Mario Crystabaul's view worked when he got to Oregon.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you won't get pushed back at Washington.

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Speaker 1: what's most exciting Mario Cristobaul's kind of blending proven philosophies.

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Speaker 1: casualty to begin with. You just got to convince them

428
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is the place to go. And then other

429
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks see it happening, and then other talented kids see

430
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: it happening, and all of a sudden, you go from

431
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: being a team that's got a good, solid, lunch pal

432
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: type defense, good offensive lines any given year, good enough

433
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Speaker 1: quarterback play, good enough receivers, good enough running back too.

434
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Speaker 1: You got a generational quarterback. And then you've got a

435
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Speaker 1: couple of stud receivers, either from the transfer market or

436
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: from the recruiting pipeline, that have joined us. And all

437
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now Notre Dame can put up some

438
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: crooked numbers offensively because all of a sudden, now they're

439
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: a different caliber athlete offensively than they ever have been.

440
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: I think the poster was right. I think that's probably

441
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Speaker 1: the way that Notre Dame has to go. And so

442
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: that was a really, really interesting kind of conversation there

443
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Speaker 1: that's still going on. I would assume over there at

444
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Speaker 1: Irish Illustrated dot com. But Notre Dame is not a

445
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Speaker 1: place that I think, like I used to Brian Kelly

446
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: would look to get out of. I don't think he

447
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 1: looks at the limitations there as being on par with

448
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Speaker 1: maybe the way that I and some other people in

449
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Speaker 1: the past and maybe now have viewed them from afar.

450
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Speaker 1: And that's all that matters. That in the mount with

451
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Speaker 1: hill of beans, what I sit here in a studio

452
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Speaker 1: in Nashville and think about the Notre Dame program and

453
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 1: what they can and can't do. It's what he thinks

454
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: and then what he can convince other kids to think,

455
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Speaker 1: that second part obviously being the optimal point. All right,

456
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Speaker 1: move on. I had a buddy, pretty rabid LSU fan.

457
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: There are many of you were always appreciate you reaching

458
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Speaker 1: out to us, and so they were reaching out the

459
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Speaker 1: other day and they were asking about Tiger Stadium. You

460
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: guys have attended games there, but you don't necessarily get

461
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Speaker 1: to cover games there, and so even though you may

462
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Speaker 1: have been in the stadium a hundred times, there are

463
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Speaker 1: just different vantage points that you get to see if

464
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: you're in our line of work that everyone's always fascinated with.

465
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Speaker 1: We've been doing this with the form of storytelling over

466
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Speaker 1: the past several shows, what column like four or five

467
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Speaker 1: shows now, So I'm going to do that to end

468
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Speaker 1: the show tonight too, But I also wanted to talk

469
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Speaker 1: about just maybe some different aspects of the stadiums we're

470
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Speaker 1: going SEC stadiums tonight, and then I'll go national later

471
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Speaker 1: down the road, because I grew up covering the SEC

472
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Speaker 1: from my time in radio to my time in both

473
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Speaker 1: sports and news TV. So let's just touch on these

474
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Speaker 1: for a second. LSU. Yeah, it's going to be on

475
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Speaker 1: the list, but I'm going to go five to one

476
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Speaker 1: here right quick. I'm not going to do some big

477
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Speaker 1: fancy countdown. But there's one at number five that kind

478
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Speaker 1: of surprised Colin a little bit when I showed up

479
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Speaker 1: because there was one that wasn't on the list that

480
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Speaker 1: I'm going to explain. The one that's not on the

481
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Speaker 1: list is Niland Stadium, and the really the only reason

482
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Speaker 1: that they're not on the list is because to this point,

483
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Speaker 1: I have not covered a game at Neeland where Tennessee's

484
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Speaker 1: any good, and so it really really impacts my perception

485
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Speaker 1: of covering a game there for obvious reasons. Now, if

486
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Speaker 1: you have listened to the show, you know that I

487
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 1: think maybe the time is in the mid range future

488
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Speaker 1: where there will be very competitive games at Nieland Stadium. Again,

489
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Speaker 1: so Nil a lot about Neelan is great, folks showing

490
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Speaker 1: up even though there are three touchdown Underdog in the

491
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Speaker 1: times that I've been there. Obviously really modernized underneath the

492
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Speaker 1: stadium a lot to like. As Colin pointed out, it's

493
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Speaker 1: one of less than half a dozen FBS program stadiums

494
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Speaker 1: on a river. You can drive a boat to the game.

495
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Speaker 1: All that's well and good. My number five stadium, though,

496
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Speaker 1: was South Carolina. South Carolina to me, is the most underrated. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 1: I'll call them a major venue because listen, relative to

498
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Speaker 1: everywhere outside of the SEC, Williams Bryce Stadium is a

499
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Speaker 1: huge stadium. You don't think about them within the context

500
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Speaker 1: of like Bryant Denny Tigers Stadium, Kyle Field. But Williams

501
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Bryce Stadium is a really fun place to go. It's

502
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Speaker 1: very accessible. Also, they have recently modernized. There's a lot

503
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Speaker 1: about the underbelly of the stadium that I like, and

504
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: I also really think that from an atmosphere a game

505
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Speaker 1: day atmosphere standpoint, I think WILLIAMS. Brice Stadium's wildly underrated.

506
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Speaker 1: This past year, I think it was. Yeah. I was

507
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Speaker 1: there for the Alabama game and Alabama was a huge favorite.

508
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: Alabama ended up winning the game by a substantial margin.

509
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Speaker 1: That place was very, very very charged. And what it

510
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: makes me think of anytime I'm out of place like

511
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Speaker 1: that and eventually it dies down once order is restored

512
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Speaker 1: and the road team takes the lead for good. What

513
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Speaker 1: it makes me think is man like, what is this

514
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Speaker 1: place ever going to be like? If and when will

515
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Speaker 1: mush Champ in this case gets the ship righted? And

516
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: maybe Mike Bobo comes in there and he is the

517
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Speaker 1: answer as offensive coordinator, And all of a sudden, you know,

518
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Speaker 1: when the big boys come in there, it's not South

519
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Speaker 1: Carolina as a double digit underdog. All of a sudden,

520
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Speaker 1: it's South Carolina plus four, South Carolina plus two, South

521
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Speaker 1: Carolina's slight favorite. What would this place be like them?

522
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Speaker 1: South Carolina is a fun place to go Athens, Georgia.

523
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Speaker 1: Sanford Stadium is the number four on the list. Now.

524
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Speaker 1: Sandford's very unique unto any other stadium on this list.

525
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Speaker 1: And one of the things that I love the most

526
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Speaker 1: about the city of Athens and the University of Georgia

527
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Speaker 1: campus along with Sanford Stadium is type topography. Colin, how

528
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: would you say this typographically? Typographically? Yeah, geographically, let's just

529
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: say it like that. It's built sort of into the

530
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Speaker 1: countryside a lot of hills. It's not flat, you know,

531
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Speaker 1: it's not Kansas, and so the stadium is the same way.

532
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Speaker 1: It's kind of built into a hill. When you walk

533
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: in the media entrance, is this like massive ramp that

534
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: looks like it would come out of pro wrestling somewhere.

535
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: Gotta be careful, especially if it's raining, which it was

536
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: last time I was there when they played A and

537
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: M saw Jimbo Fisher get off the bus right there

538
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: to greet him. Jimmy Sexton, his agent I Digress. We've

539
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: told a lot of Sexton stories on the show. They

540
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: got a media suite that's right there, accessible right off

541
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Speaker 1: the field, which is nice. Don't take it for granted

542
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: because not every stadium has them. They feed you very well.

543
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: They just recently got unlimited all you can drink iced coffee,

544
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: and that's also something that you don't overlook, especially considering

545
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Speaker 1: how arduous the drive out of there is after any

546
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: kind of big game, and also the fans there create

547
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 1: a really unique experience. And especially now this is a

548
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: credit to Kirby Smart. They have re energized what was

549
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: already a very very passionate fan base to the point

550
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: where their home games now are recruiting spectacles. I actually

551
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: was not at the Notre Dame game this past year.

552
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: I was elsewhere. But the Notre Dame game is a

553
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Speaker 1: perfect example. Colin showed you the b roll of it

554
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: a little while ago. That was a game where the

555
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: result on the field a lot of you called it

556
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: a boring game. No one cares about that they won.

557
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: What people care about is if I was a high

558
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: school saw more or junior there, I still remember that.

559
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: And if Georgia is recruiting me, that is better than

560
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: anything they can put on a postcard. It's better than

561
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: any kind of hype video they can show me. They

562
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: just say, hey, you remember that night you were here

563
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: of that Notre Dame game. You remember that light show

564
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: we put on you, Remember how we bathed the entire

565
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: stadium and a sea of red beforehand? Remember how charged

566
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: that was why don't you come be a part of that.

567
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: What they've done with the game day experience there in Athens,

568
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: it is pretty awesome. My number three is Alabama. I

569
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: think I somewhat take Alabama for granted because Alabama and

570
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: Auburn games are the ones that I've been to the most,

571
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: because being where I'm from, that's those are the two

572
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: teams that we covered a whole lot, And because my

573
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: role normally required and requires me to be the biggest

574
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: SEC game every week, Alabama's in the biggest SEC game

575
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: a lot. So I've probably covered two or three dozen

576
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Speaker 1: games at brandon Any Stadium over the course of the

577
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: last few years several years, so you could argue number

578
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: one for Alabama is my point. Everything about that place

579
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: is awesome. If you have media parking, if you don't

580
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: get there five hours early, or if the president's there,

581
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: as was the case with the LSU game this past year,

582
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: get there about seven hours early. But a game day

583
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa is awesome. They're team colors. I don't know

584
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: why this stands out to me, but it does. The

585
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Crimson and White. When you see a bunch of it

586
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: collected together, it looks awesome, So it's a very good

587
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: postcard kind of moment. There is no buffet in college football.

588
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: There is nowhere on this planet that feeds media better

589
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: than they do at Alabama. I think it's somewhat inexplicable

590
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: because you don't have to pay for it and it's overkilled. However,

591
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 1: I hope they never change it because it's great and

592
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: it's selfishly why I get there so early. Because they

593
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: also do not make you take a meal ticket, which

594
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: means you can get all you want to. And I'm

595
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: the kind of person who really really takes advantage of

596
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: that kind of situation. So everything about the game day

597
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: experience at Alabama is fantastic. I actually think because they

598
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: got that light show put in just like Georgia does.

599
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: Because Alabama's entire bowl is enclosed when it's a night scenario,

600
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I actually like their light show. I think it looks

601
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: even better than Georgia's does. Georgia's is awesome, but Alabama's,

602
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: because you got the entire bowl enclosed, I think it

603
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: looks a little bit better. I had a buddy who

604
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: actually ended up covering a game with me this past year.

605
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: I think it was the LSU game, talking about how

606
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: overblown that light stuff was, and I agree ninety nine

607
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: times out of one hundred. Some of this spectacle gimmick

608
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 1: type stuff that gets a lot of people riled up,

609
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: like hype videos, for example. I've never cared about hype videos,

610
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: just like you would think I would not care about

611
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: stadium lighting. You guys who have seen the stuff in person,

612
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: understand you got to see that stuff in person. Those

613
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: light shows the way they do that now. They got

614
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: it at Brianon Denny, they got it at Georgia, They'll

615
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: have it eventually at every stadium. It is pretty surreal.

616
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like you're in real life. It looks

617
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: like you're in a movie, but you know that you're

618
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: there in real life. So I don't know. I can't

619
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: describe it. You have to experience him. My number two

620
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: stadium this could easily compete for number one is Kyle

621
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: Field at Texas A and M. I've only been to

622
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: one game there. Finally got it off the bucket list.

623
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: It was this past year. It was Alabama Intown, Alabama

624
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: ended up beating them pretty soundly. Texas A and M

625
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: does not get the credit as a program as a

626
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: stadium that they deserve because they're new to the SEC

627
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: still relatively speaking, and they're not geographically centered where everyone's

628
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: around them. They're out in College Station, Texas, and it's

629
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: just like Missouri being in Columbia. You know, Yes, they're

630
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: talked about, but they're not talked about like Auburn or

631
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: Georgia or Florida or Alabama are, and they should be.

632
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: This atmosphere is insane, The stadium is insane. I told

633
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: this story previous, so I'll tell it one more time. Obviously,

634
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: if Alabama's in town, it's the CBS two thirty three

635
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: thirty game, it's going to be sold out. And so

636
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: when I went to this game this last year, I assumed, oh,

637
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: traffic's about to be a nightmare here. I got a buddy,

638
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: he who covers Alabama, who is a grad of A

639
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: and M who was at the game, and so I

640
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: talked to him ahead of time. He said, I don't

641
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: think it's going to be that big a problem. I said, Okay,

642
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: we'll see you've been there. You'll be there already in town.

643
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: I got to come in on game day, so I

644
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: flew into Houston, rented a car, drove to College Station.

645
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: Not a big deal at all. I drove in and

646
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: you would think that they may have been holding a

647
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: booster event for five thousand people with the way traffic was.

648
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: And I never even came to a complete stop unless

649
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: I was at a stop light. Get in parking, media parking,

650
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Get in the stadium, got one hundred and seven hundred

651
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: and eight thousand whatever, they're packed capacity crowd. And I

652
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: find him there and I say, you were right. How

653
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: in the world did I just get in here and

654
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: avoid all this traffic? Did I find some magic way?

655
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: And he said, no, man, people just got here Wednesday.

656
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: And he was right. The more I thought about it,

657
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: they all just showed up Wednesday or Thursday, and they're

658
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: there for midnight yell on Friday, and so a majority

659
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: of I'm already there to where Hey, if you're driving

660
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: in on Saturday, it's not all that big a deal.

661
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: The entire underbelly of the stadium is modernized. It is

662
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: such where you don't have to from the press box,

663
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: which is ten miles in the air by the way,

664
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: much like Kneeland to get to stadium. You never have

665
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: to walk through the crowd. A lot of the older

666
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: stadiums you do have to do that, not that I

667
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: mean gets walking through the crowd, it's it takes a

668
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: long time. And so everything about Kyle Field is wonderful.

669
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: It is such where when you're walking through the press areas,

670
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: it's like you're in a major arena, an indoor facility.

671
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like you're in a football stadium. Normally

672
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: the football stadiums, it's really dark, it's really damp. It's concrete,

673
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: dirt floor. You never know what you're gonna get. With

674
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. It looked like you were in

675
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, like Phillips Arena or whatever that place

676
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: is called now in Atlanta, Bridgetone Arena here in Nashville.

677
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: When you're underground, that's what it looks like. So I

678
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: love everything about Kylefield. Texas A and M completely modernized.

679
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: And when not if for some people who know who

680
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: they are, who are watching now, when Texas A and

681
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: M finally ascends to the A tier of college football

682
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: under Jimbo Fisher and the full spotlight of college football

683
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: is on them, Kyle Field will rightly become known as

684
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: one of the very top venues in college football. It

685
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: already is. People just don't talk about it like that.

686
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: Number One is Tiger Stadium at LSU. I don't know where.

687
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: I know where the idea that Tiger Stadium at night

688
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: is the most intimidating environment college football came from. That's

689
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 1: easy to understand, it is. It became kind of in

690
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: vogue not too long ago for some people to start

691
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: hating on that, calling it a myth, calling it overhyped. Well,

692
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: I've been there for quite a few big night games

693
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: against Bama. I was there for the day game against

694
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: Georgia a couple of years ago, been there the last

695
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: two Auburn games. There's no environment like it in sports,

696
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't think, at least not that I've experienced. And

697
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: I've been to all these big stadiums. Everything that they

698
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: say about that place is accurate and then some. But

699
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: you got to be there when LSU is competitive, because

700
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: their fan base is very smart, and they're smart enough

701
00:33:54,600 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: to understand when it doesn't matter if they invest emotionally anymore. Well,

702
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: when you're there when they're fully vested emotionally, it's a special,

703
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: special place. And here's the other thing that stands out.

704
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: It's a very uncomfortable walk if you are not associated

705
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: with LSU I say this in the best of ways

706
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: and the most complementary of ways. It's a very uncomfortable

707
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: walk going from wherever you've parked until you get inside

708
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: that place. And we get there before it opens to

709
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: the public, so once you're in the relative silence of

710
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: the building itself, you're all good. Walking through tailgate areas

711
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: walking in, it's uncomfortable because if you're not with them,

712
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: you're viewed as being against them, and so it's very hostile.

713
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: Everything they say about it is true. It's a very

714
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: hostile environment. But once they realize, oh, oh, you're friendly

715
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: to us, well, then you're welcome and they act like

716
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: you're their brother. So hey, that's the treatment I get

717
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: when I go to LSU, and I love it. But

718
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: if you are a rival fan, if you're a road

719
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: fan and you're rolling in there and you're wearing the colors,

720
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: I'd leave the women and children at home. That's what

721
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: I would do. You guys can do whatever you want

722
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: to your life. It's not my life, but it's a

723
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable place unless they know you and recognize you

724
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: as one of them. And if they recognize you as

725
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: one of them, it's one of the best places on Earth.

726
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Easily one of the best places on Earth to watch

727
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: a game. So LSU won A and M two, Alabama three,

728
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: Georgia four, South Carolina five. That's how I rank the

729
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: stadiums that I've covered games at end SEC. This is

730
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: a very fluid list. Wanted to leave you with this,

731
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: all right. So the other night I was actually for

732
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 1: the last several shows we've done sort of a little

733
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: storytelling session wherein we dig into the treasure trows of

734
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: games that we have covered and I tell you some

735
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: stuff that may have existed behind the scenes that you

736
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily get to see. So I wanted to take

737
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: you back. How well do you remember twenty fourteen, especially

738
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: if you're a Tennessee volunteer fan. Butch Jones is in

739
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: his second year in Knoxville. He's the head coach there.

740
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: He was successful at Cincinnati, he was successful at the

741
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: stop before that, at Central Michigan, I believe it was,

742
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: and it looks like it looks like he's starting to

743
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: turn things around. So I was at this game in

744
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. It was Tennessee at Georgia. It was September

745
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, twenty fourteen. For those keeping record at home,

746
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: and Tennessee pushed Georgia. They didn't beat them, they pushed them.

747
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: They easily covered. I would imagine it was a thirty

748
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: five to thirty two final. Rick is still at Georgia

749
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: for this game. And remember this was a year where

750
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: Georgia was pretty highly ranked. Tennessee still getting their act together,

751
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: and so people left that game thinking, you know, good

752
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: for Tennessee and collectively, the mentality postgame was whether you

753
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: be in the news conferences, talking to the players, outside

754
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: the locker room, talking to media off the record that

755
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: covered the Tennessee beat, the general feeling was, you know,

756
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: there was a lot to take away from this loss

757
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: that is going to be very relevant down the road

758
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: if and when they end up being a contender. That

759
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: was the feel. Okay, so I'm on the field, totally

760
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: empty stadium. I'm doing some stand ups postgame to send

761
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: back to Columbus for the news station that I was

762
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: working at. So I'm sitting there fut papers around and

763
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: I was in between the visitor's locker room tunnel and

764
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: the home locker room tunnel. Since then, they've switched it

765
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: in the way that the stadium's configured, but back then,

766
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: you know you had tunnel here, tunnel here. This is

767
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: where Georgia comes out. This is where Tennessee comes out.

768
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm kind of standing in the middle of that. I'm

769
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: right near where the goalpost would be, and so my

770
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: peripheral vision I see an orange polo kind of emerge

771
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: and it's empty. I mean, even the stadium workers have left.

772
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: It's two hours after the game. The buses for Tennessee

773
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: have already left. And I see someone emerge over there.

774
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm not paying much attention, but I kind of look

775
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: a double take, triple take. It's Butch Jones. He's all

776
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: by himself. He doesn't have any of his assistants with him,

777
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the sid is nowhere to be found.

778
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: It's just Butch Jones, and I swear to you. He

779
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: walks out of the tunnel. He's in his suit, He's

780
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: got his leather briefcase and he sets it down. And

781
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: just imagine seeing this, I just say a word. I

782
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: just watched, and Butch Jones just puts his bag down

783
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: and he stands there for it. It seems like two

784
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: or three minutes, and he just looks around, stands there

785
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: with his arms crossed. And he just looks around. Now,

786
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: your guess is as good as mine as to what

787
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: was going through his head. What I perceived to be

788
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: going through his head is this is a guy who

789
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: is finally letting the noise die down in his head.

790
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: And they were competitive here today, but they lost. But

791
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: I guarantee he's standing over there thinking ahead twenty years

792
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: t when he's writing his autobiography, and he's writing a

793
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: chapter of it right now in his head, and that

794
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: chapter saying as I stood there and the smoke had cleared,

795
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: and the dust it settled, and we came up just short.

796
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: I stood outside that tunnel and thought, this is the

797
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: last time that we're ever going to walk out of

798
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: this place with a team not as talented as them,

799
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: and the last time we're ever going to walk out

800
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: of here coming up just that much short. That's how

801
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: I imagined it. Fast forward two years, please, because Tennessee

802
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: comes back to Athens again. I'm there this, mind you

803
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: is the week after we had been at Jorden Hare

804
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Stadium where Less Miles won a game, then they overturned

805
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: it and LSU lost the game and Les Miles got

806
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: the acts. So it's been an eventful week. And now

807
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: we go to Athens and it's Tennessee at Georgia. Tennessee

808
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: is undefeated. It's October first, it's twenty sixteen. You remember

809
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: how this one turned out? Well, if you don't let

810
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: me refresh your memory. There were under is under a

811
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: minute to go and it was Jacob piece into Riley. Really,

812
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: Georgia takes the lead, penalty, sets Georgia up for Tennessee

813
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: up with good field position. Josh dobbs to Juwan Jenny's

814
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: A couple of plays later, that was the result. Tennessee

815
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: last ditch heave to the end zone. I'm just off

816
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: camera right there. Don't worry about me, worry about the player.

817
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: Juwan Jenny's catches the touchdown, and it's a true Watch

818
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: the celebration, Watch the ac I almost get torn. Oh

819
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: so close? All right, so good for Butch. So now

820
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: we fast forward two years. He's not standing there all

821
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: by his loans, him in the tunnel anymore. Now he's

822
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: finally come back to Georgia and he's won the game.

823
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: And I followed him around just like this. Remember, folks,

824
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: if you're gonna film film landscape, don't film right side

825
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: up film landscape. So we can actually use it. So

826
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm filming Butch Jones and I just followed him. I

827
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: probably got ten minutes worth of footage on the field,

828
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: and so I went from the dog pile with Juwan

829
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: Jennings and I'm just filming Butch Jones because I already

830
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: knew in the moment, man, this is what I'm going

831
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: to talk about on the show tomorrow night. I remember

832
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: all the way two years ago what he was like here,

833
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: and now they pulled it off. Finally they remained undefeated.

834
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: They were about to send to number nine or a

835
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: send to number nine in the country after that game.

836
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: That's right, Butch Jones had Tennessee in the top ten.

837
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: They weren't always a dumpster fire, like maybe the revisionist

838
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: part of your history in your mind would indicate to you.

839
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: So I followed Butch Jones. At the time, I was

840
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: at a local station in Columbus, Georgia, and we had

841
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: kind of neon Orangish polos that we wore for the station.

842
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: In other words, I looked just like a Tennessee staffer,

843
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: which was very convenient because I follow Jones and I'm

844
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: right behind him, and I walk up Tennessee's tunnel, and halfway,

845
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: not realizing what I'm doing, I went right into Tennessee's

846
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: locker room. Locker rooms on the road and at home

847
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: in regular season play are closed to everyone but essential

848
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: personnel and players. But it didn't matter, because in all

849
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: the hoopla and the celebration and the fact that I

850
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: was wearing a matching shirt, I got right into their

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Speaker 1: This time he had an entire entourage with him, and

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Speaker 1: The following year, he's fired, and so the Butcher Jones

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