1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Disgraceland as a production of Double Elvis. The stories about 2 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Guns n' Roses are insane. They brawled with cops, delp drugs, 3 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: robbed unsuspecting friends, fans, and one night stands. Singer Axel 4 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Rose once slept with drummer Stephen Adler's girlfriend and recorded 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: her orgasm for an overdub in one of their songs. 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Their music and the attitude that propelled it was so 7 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: authentic and so compelling that it instigated riots on multiple occasions. 8 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Guns n' Roses was the real deal, violent, aggressive of 9 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: the street and for the street, a product of nineteen 10 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: eighties Los Angeles, as bipolar, as gnar, as notoriously short 11 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: tempered and moody frontman, hard and hedonistic all at once. 12 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: And they made great music. That music you heard at 13 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: the top of the show that wasn't great music. That 14 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: was a preset loop for my mellotron called Castro McQueen's 15 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: Last Call MK one. I played you that loop because 16 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: I can't afford the rights to roll with It by 17 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: Steve Winwood. And why would I play you that specific 18 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: slice of divorce rock Cheese? Could I afford it? Because 19 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: that was the number one song in America on August twentieth, 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, and that was the day Guns N' 21 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Roses took the stage at Castle Donnington, kicking off one 22 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: of the deadliest days in rock and roll. On This 23 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: the first of a special two part episode to commence 24 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: season five, Castro McQueen's Last Call Divorce, Rock Cheese, Too 25 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Dead at Donnington and Guns N' Roses. I'm Jake Brennan 26 00:01:54,160 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: and this this Disgraceland. David Bowie simply did not care 27 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: who her boyfriend was. He had to have her. She 28 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: was too much, too much for the eyes, his mysteriously 29 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: colored eyes, too much for the camera, too much for 30 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: the crew on the video set, and clearly too much 31 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: for her infamous lover, who was off somewhere else at 32 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: the moment, most likely pissed off about something. 33 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: Except for the fish nets. 34 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: She was wearing all leather, leather bra thong, knee high boots, bondage, 35 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: ballgag handcuffs, total s and m total vamp chips, tips, chains, whips. 36 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: You know, you're basically if your middle origin type of thing, 37 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: and she was drawing all the attention on set, even 38 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: from her boyfriend's bandmates, who, despite the fact that they 39 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: were accompanied by their own smoke show girlfriends couldn't avoid 40 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: seeking peeps at the video vam whenever she walked by 41 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: or took to her blocking under the lights. It was 42 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: a hyper sex charged situation. Steven Adler, drummer in the band, 43 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: did his best damask his lust, but there was almost 44 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: no use in trying. However, this was the singers and 45 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: best friend's girl. But the holy shit, she was something else. 46 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: She was rock and roll Royalty, born to one half 47 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: of the greatest harmony singing duo of all time, Don 48 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: Everley of the Everly Brothers. Aaron Everley, dark hair, big eyes, 49 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: oozing sex Appeal was in nineteen eighty nine, half of 50 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: rock's current royal couple, having hooked up with Axel Rose, 51 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: singer of what was fast becoming the biggest band on 52 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: the planet, then notorious Guns N' Roses. But David Bowie, 53 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: mister well hung and snow white Tan, couldn't care less. 54 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: He had to have her give her the royal Wham, 55 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: thank you man treatment, and Bowie, at the time was 56 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: enjoying in another career reinvention, this time as part of 57 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: the fantastic and indefinable Rock group Tin Machine and making 58 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: waves on stage and on MTV, and he was a 59 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: course already by this point legend. He was also a 60 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: sort of uncle Slash cool stepdad to Guns n' Roses 61 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: lead guitarist, whose mom was a costume designer back in 62 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: the seventies, and that's how she linked up with Bowie 63 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: designing his clothes during his manic Coke Field Thin White 64 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: Duke days. Their working relationship eventually turned sexual, and Bowie 65 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: took a shine to his costume designer's young son, Saul Hudson, 66 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: who would go on to become the one and only Slash, 67 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: and as fate would have it, by the time of 68 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: the eighties was coming to a close. Slash was in 69 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: a bigger band than Bowie at the time, which was 70 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: how David Bowie found himself on set for the Guns n' 71 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Roses video shoot, checking in on Slash and seeing what 72 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: he and his band were all above. 73 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: That was the motivation anyway, The. 74 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Leather eye candy ruling the day with her dime spot 75 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: sexuality was the bonus sweet child. At whoever she was, 76 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: it didn't matter, and it all happened so fast. One 77 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: minute Bowie was oggling Aaron the next her short tempered 78 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: boyfriend Axel was chasing him off the set and down 79 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: Lascianaga Boulevard, screaming. 80 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill you ten men. 81 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Supposedly, a punch was thrown and landed, but nobody really 82 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: knows what happened, except for Mick Jagger and Eric Clapton. 83 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: A few days after the Dusktop, Mick and Eric cornered 84 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: Axel backstage at a show, demanding to hear about the 85 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: heavily rumored fight with their old mate David Bowie. Axel 86 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: quickly told them the story, and none of it seemed 87 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: far fetched to Jagger and Clapton. Bowie had been moving 88 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: in on their women for years, and the two went 89 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: on back and forth to each other. By the time 90 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: Bowie did this, the time Bowie did that, Axel wasn't 91 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: even sure he was in the conversation anymore. Stood there 92 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: listening to two of his childhood heroes go on in 93 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: a spirited and highly comical conversation about the dude who 94 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: was hitting on his girlfriend days earlier, a duty still 95 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: wanted to pummel into oblivion, a dude who also just 96 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: happened to be none other than David fucking Bowie. Axel 97 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: couldn't help but think what the hell had he done 98 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: to end up with this insane life. Lafayette, Indiana, his hometown, 99 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: was a long way off in the rear view mirror. 100 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: Axel had a squint to see it with his mind's eye, 101 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: but the trauma and the shame of those days were 102 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: always burbling just beneath the surface, Surveying his daily routine, 103 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: his habits, his interactions, any in all events that would 104 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: provide an opportunity to explode his emotions. Ran The show 105 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: Volatile Artists doesn't even begin to explain the complexity and 106 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: behavior of Axel Rose, and there were constant physical altercations 107 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: with fans, friends, cops, neighbors, thin white dukes, and, according 108 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: to Aaron Everley, with her as well. Axel Rose, from 109 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: a young age had been scraping, clawing, fighting his way 110 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: away from something, something welling up inside, something horrific and indescribable. 111 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: It was a feeling he couldn't shake, and a feeling 112 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: that would drive him to create one of the most explosive. 113 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 2: Albums of all time. 114 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: Axel Rose felt at home on Saint Mark's Place in 115 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 1: Manhattan's East Village, he could feel the inspiration that drove 116 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: his heroes, the Ramones and the New York Dolls, to 117 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: create some of the most dangerous music he'd ever heard, 118 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: music that to this day February two, nineteen eighty eight, 119 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: still spoke to the angry. 120 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: Young man in him. 121 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: Squalor, crime and crime, punk rockers, skinheads and hippies, hanging 122 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: on for dear life, homeless people, drag queens, junkies and tourists. 123 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: Saint Mark's was a low key bohemian bizarre of countercultures 124 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: clashing up against one another in the form of hard 125 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: to find books, harder to find records, and imported porn 126 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: studded belts, Doctor Martin's boots, Leather for Days, and other edgy, 127 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: irreverent fashion items unavailable to the rest of America, like 128 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: that Charlie Don't Surf t shirt hanging in the window 129 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: of Trash in Vaudeville, the one with Manson's nineteen sixty 130 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: nine mugshot Big and Intense emblazoned across the front. Axel 131 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: thought it was killer, so he popped into the store 132 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: and had the dude with the peroxide hair and Eggy 133 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: Pop tattoo behind the counter grab it for him. 134 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: Axel wouldn't wear. 135 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: It on stage that night, though now he had his 136 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: thin Lizzie shirt teed up for that. 137 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: The show. 138 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: Later that evening at the Ritz, a couple blocks north 139 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: of Saint Mark's, was being broadcast live on MTV, and 140 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: Axel's band Guns Roses was wired tight for maximum rock 141 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: and roll America took notice when it aired. 142 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: The show was watched by a relatively. 143 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: Small audience of American teenagers up way past their bedtimes, 144 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: but the show was recorded on dusty VHS tapes and 145 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: passed around high school corridors repeatedly over the coming months 146 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: until the ferocity of Guns n' Roses was recognized and 147 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: salivated over en mass by high school kids everywhere. Axel 148 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: Rose came to life on the screen as a real 149 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: life version of The Breakfast Club's Johnny Bender. He was 150 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the high school burnout who we all knew growing up, 151 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: the one who doubled down on shop electives and wore 152 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: ripped jeans out of necessity, not out of a sense 153 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: of fashion. The guy who sported self imposed cigarette burns 154 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: on his muscular forearms and was rumored. 155 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: To have a Budman tattoo on his ass. 156 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: This was the same dude who sat in the back 157 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: of the classroom and simultaneously frightened and attracted the cheerleaders, 158 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: those same cheerleaders who wouldn't give you the time of day. 159 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: You saw this dude standing alone, quiet at the edge 160 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: of the keg party up off of the train tracks. 161 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: You left him alone because you heard the story about 162 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: the time he busted the bottle of michelob across the 163 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: jock with the big mouth's face. 164 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: But inside you burned to know more about it. 165 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: What made him tick, what made him so pissed, and 166 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: what made him so fucking cool? And just like that kid, 167 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: Axel was filled with contempt and untapped confidence. On stage 168 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: at the Ritz, he could feel his anger. It was 169 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: something that had been building up in size since birth. 170 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: It was coming out one way or another, likely through 171 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: violent rage or petty crime or both, but rock and 172 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: roll saves. Otherwise Axel Rose would likely have been in 173 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: jail on that night instead of blowing the minds of 174 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: all in attendance, as well as everyone watching at home 175 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: on television and later on memorys. On stage, Axel looked 176 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: a little older than the millions of high school burnouts 177 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: who had soon come to worship him. In his band, 178 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: he was essentially the same angry young man he was 179 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: growing up back in Lafayette, Indiana. But at the Ritz 180 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: it was clear that his time had come and he'd 181 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: arrived for the murderous row of bandmates. Slash, the Bronzed 182 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Mad Hatter, Adonnis, Izzy Straddlin with his Ronnie wood Via 183 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: Johnny Thunders, Cool Duff mckag and eleven feet Tall and 184 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: oozing punk rock, sex and excitement, and last the wide 185 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: eyed ball of heavy metal puppy Dog Charisma Stephen Adler, 186 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: a band that you could immediately tell never had a 187 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: fuck to give, and their live show was flawless. Even 188 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: with the flaws, it was flawless songs like the Didley 189 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: asque Mister Brownstone, the Jet Fueled Night Train and the 190 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: Showstopper Rocket Queen Veer from brilliant to train wreck and 191 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: back again, and the time it takes to Suck a 192 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: Marlborough Red from first flame down to toxic filter. Genarro 193 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: was from the Street in four the Street and their 194 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: lyrics represented a band living a hand and mouth life 195 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: of rock and roll debauchery and all two willing to 196 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: let themselves die. 197 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: In the pursuit of it. 198 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: You couldn't tell if they were creatively brave, risking it 199 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: all in the service of making totally authentic rock and roll, 200 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: or if they were just too stupid to know any better. 201 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: And through it all, the band was impossibly cool. Every shot, 202 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: every pose, every note, even the out of tune ones 203 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: from Slash, every vocal, even the ones from Axel Told 204 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: run out of Breath, all. 205 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: Combined to somehow make them seem even cooler. 206 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: And if you tried, you couldn't have created a more 207 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: representative version of a rock and roll band then the 208 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: one that Axel Rose took to the stage on February second, 209 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. You wouldn't know it from watching them, 210 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: but that band and the fuck all attitude that propelled it, 211 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: and more specifically, its singer, had been a long time 212 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: in the making. The crack from the back of the 213 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: hand to his mouth came quick, it was unexpected, and 214 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: it stung like a motherfucker. Young Axel could taste his 215 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: blood bubbling up from his lip. The damage could have 216 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: been worse, but luckily Axel's dad didn't wear rings. Jewelry 217 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: was too ostentatious for Pentecostal, So was Barry Manilow and 218 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: his number one hit Mandy, which was what put Axel 219 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: on the receiving end of another blow to the grill. 220 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: Axel made the mistake of absent mindedly singing along to 221 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: the song's chorus, with its lyrics that his dad somehow 222 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: considered sexually suggestive. What Axel seriously did not understand how 223 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: he was related to this dude, his old man, this 224 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: abusive religious nutback. But that was because Axel wasn't actually 225 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: related to him, He just didn't know it yet. And 226 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: then again, young Axel Rose didn't know much beyond led Zeppelin, 227 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: ri of Selton John melodies and pent up rage for 228 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: the man he thought was his father. Soon, young Axel 229 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: would learn that his father was really his stepfather and 230 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: that his real father was never to be brought up. 231 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: It was a discovery that did little to endear Axel 232 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: to his stepdad, and thus the violence continued. It wasn't 233 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: reserved for just Axel either, his stepdad, through his fist. 234 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: Around to keep Axel's mom in line as well. 235 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,359 Speaker 1: Axel saw it all as a little boy and a teenager, 236 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: the beatings and. 237 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: The mental anguish, and. 238 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: By the time he was sixteen, Rock and roll was 239 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: his only salvation. That and his new friend Izzy, and 240 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: they vibed on the stones ACDC Arrowsmith and the new 241 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Onslaught of British punk bands invading America, the sex Pistols, 242 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: Generation X and the Clash, and they also bonded over beer, 243 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: grass and pills, and of course the two of them, 244 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: especially Axel, took every opportunity possible to fuck with the 245 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: local authorities. Axel had a real hatred for the small 246 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: town conservative, square job local cops. To him, there were 247 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: just an extension of the repression and bullshit rules imposed 248 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: by his stepdad. Except out on the street he could 249 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: talk back and let Lucy in a rage. He carried 250 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: an arrest for disturbing the peace was worth it. He 251 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: could never let loose on his stepdad like he could 252 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: on the cops. Plus the cops would have to catch 253 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: him first, So Axel mouthed off to Lafayette's finest every 254 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: chance he got, and the cops, in turn, found a 255 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: special kind of satisfaction whenever they could bust his ass 256 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: and throw him in jail. And the result was a 257 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: long string of juvenile arrests for petty crimes, public drunkenness, loitering, etc. 258 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: Fucking with the cops was always fun, but music was 259 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: becoming the main focus for Axel and Crazy, and they 260 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: put a little band together and played when they could, 261 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: but mostly they studied and listened to the masters whenever 262 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: they got the chance. And their latest obsession was the 263 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: soundtrack album for the film Over the Edge, an adolescent 264 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: crime drama set in the fictional suburb of Granada, where 265 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: the town's kids, bored and tired of being neglected by 266 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: their parents and other authority figures, finally rebel, setting about 267 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: to destroy and terrorize their town through a fiery crime spree. 268 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: He could relate to the teenage wasteland anti authority vibe 269 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: at portrayed just like the kids in Granada, Axel felt neglected, ignored, 270 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: and oppressed, and was compelled to vent his unhappiness through violence. 271 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: Plus the movie soundtrack was the Shit Cheap Trick Van Halen, 272 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: the Cars, Jimi Hendricks, and even that ballot at the end, 273 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: the one by Valerie Carter that played while the kids 274 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: were busted off to juvenile Hall. 275 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: It was all right up Axel's alley. But Axel wouldn't 276 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: be shipped off to Juvie. He'd soon be on a 277 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: bus headed for a different kind of jungle altogether, Los Angeles, California. 278 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this word word word. Joe 279 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: Perry needed to score. 280 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: His band Aerosmith was indeed one of the biggest in 281 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: the world at the time. 282 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: That didn't change anything. 283 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: He was supposedly sober, clean, off the junk, and that 284 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: was true, sure some of the time, But then there 285 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: were the days where he just needed the familiarity of 286 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: a comforting buzz. The heroin would take it all away, 287 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: the pressure, the pain, and the reality of dealing with 288 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: his frenetic high wire act of a frontman, Stephen Tyler, 289 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: who had his own addiction, dragons to slay and procuring 290 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: the dope discretion was of utmost importance. He couldn't go 291 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: to any of the known dealers. Word might get out 292 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: that he was off the wagon, back on the horrors, 293 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: back in the saddle, but not in a good way. 294 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: So he decided to try out a new dealer. He'd 295 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: heard a guitarist in one of the newer Aerosmith's clone 296 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: bands playing down on the strip in the mid nineteen 297 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: eighties on the side of Los Angeles were a mile 298 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: and a half stretch of Sunset Boulevard curls through West 299 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: Hollywood and is known as the Strip or Sunset Strip. 300 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: A new kind of heavy metal was doing everything it 301 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: could to put La on the musical map, glam metal. 302 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: Glam metal took its musical cues from British glam rock. 303 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: The sounds of bands like Sweet Slave, t Rex and 304 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: mot the Hoople traded on big, crunchy guitar riffs, deep 305 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: pocket grooves, sex laden vocals, and hedonistic lyrics. British glam 306 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: was a sophisticated kind of cool that owed much to 307 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: David Bowie and Queen, but its American offshoot, glam metal, 308 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: kept one foot planet in the concrete jungles of Iggy 309 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: Pop and Alice Cooper while peacocking through the glit streets 310 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles. Fashion threaded the two styles together, but 311 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: the US version was more masculine, tougher, and a touch 312 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: of violent. La Glam bands like Motley Crue would meld 313 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: the androgyny of Mark Bowen with the apocalyptic look of 314 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Mad Max, and the result was something wildly unique and 315 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: somehow representative of the violence tearing through the streets of 316 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: Los Angeles at the time. In nineteen eighty five, violent 317 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: crime in LA exploded to unprecedented levels due to the 318 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: city's heavy trafficking of crack cocaine. You couldn't avoid the 319 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: headlines if you tried, but glam metal heads did their 320 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: best to ignore the harsh reality enveloping their city by 321 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: setting up their own bacchanalia on Sunset where every night 322 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: they drank, drugged, and fucked away their worries to the 323 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: sounds of the strips hottest bands at the time, Wasp Rat, Poison, 324 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: and the aforementioned Motley Crue, and there was no mistaking 325 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: what LA's new music scene was all about. 326 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: Debauchery, and their fans loved it. 327 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: They showed up every night on mass packing clubs like 328 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: the Starwood and the Whiskey, a go go to get 329 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: a glimpse of the hedonism up close and personal. 330 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: Glam music was an escape from reality, unlike the. 331 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: Music being made on the other end of town, down 332 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: in south central Los Angeles, where the effects of the 333 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: crack epidemic were being felt most severely. Rap music, up 334 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: until that point, mostly an East Coast export, was taking 335 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: on a new identity, one that mirrored the harsh circumstances 336 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles street life. 337 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: It would come to be known as. 338 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: Gangster rap, and where LA's glam rock ran from reality, 339 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: LA's gangster rap ran straight toward it and smacked it 340 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: in its mouth with the butt of a clock. The 341 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: beats these LA rappers made were bigger than anything from 342 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: the East Coast, and the lyrics they spat out were 343 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: more direct, honest, and profane than anything anyone had heard 344 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: in music before. 345 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: Anywhere, and Axel Rose loved it, all of it. 346 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: Mid eighties LA music was as fraught with tension and 347 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: manic energy as he was. It was bipolar on one end, 348 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: a low down slap of unforgiving reality, a gut punch 349 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: to authority, and on the other end, a high flying, 350 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: endless party distraction via debauchery. He could appreciate the scene 351 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: upon sunset, but in his heart he knew that there 352 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: wasn't one band among them who could fuck with what 353 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: he and his. 354 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: New bandmates were about to bring to the party. 355 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: Once Axel Rose arrived in Hollywood from Lafayette, Indiana, the 356 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: transformation from small town delinquent the street walking cheetah was quick. 357 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: After a few false starts, and along with his hometown 358 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: bud Izzy Axel formed Guns N' Roses out on the 359 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: streets and in the clubs. The band quickly developed a 360 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: reputation as the nastiest hard rock and roll band on 361 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: the Sunsets Strip. Let those other LA bands call themselves 362 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Glam Guns or GNR was going to stand out in 363 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: the scene by separating themselves from the scene. They weren't glam, 364 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: they were hard, and they weren't metal. They were rock 365 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: hard rock, a simple but novel distinction to bring to 366 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: the stage on the Strip an off stage, Axel Izzy 367 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: and their new bandmates slash Stuff and Steven lived the 368 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: life authentically. They drank and drugged harder than Motley Cruz. 369 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: They fucked more strippers than poison. They got into it 370 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: with the La County Sheriff's Department whenever they could, and 371 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: were quick to brawl with posers, yuppie squares, or whoever 372 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: else got in their faces. They were the real deal 373 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: and their songs were great, totally authentic, and as such 374 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: the band's appeal was undeniable. They packed them in at 375 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: the Troubadour, the star Ward, and the Whiskey in nineteen 376 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: eighty six, GNR signed to Geffen Records despite fears from 377 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: executives that the band would be dead before before their 378 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: record was even released. The thinking among Geffen employees was 379 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: that if the drink and drugs didn't get them, then 380 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: they'd self destruct. Via Axel's wild temper. The band was 381 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: generally a mess. They were basically homeless. Guns and Roses 382 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: squatted in the rehearsal space, a one car sized storage 383 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: unit off of Sunset Boulevard behind the Sunset Grill, and 384 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: they slept among their gear and there was no kitchen 385 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: and no bathroom. But there was a constant party. When 386 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: not rehearsing, which they did all the time, they'd get 387 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: high and get drunk on night train with the Horrors 388 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: from down on Hollywood Boulevard and party with members of Faster, Pussycat, 389 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: Red Cross, and the looniest monster bands who liked to 390 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: mix it up together but likely never shared space on 391 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: anyone's mix dat Soon young kids from the valley. 392 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: Started showing up to listen to the band rehearse. 393 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: Stephen and Slash would play nice for a bit and 394 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: scam them out of their money into the guys of 395 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: procuring drugs for them. Axel didn't have time for such 396 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: pret tenses. He would just roll them for whatever cash 397 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: he could get. Young women, valley girls and prostitutes alike 398 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: were subjected to a get naked or leave policy, and 399 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: the fucking would spill out into the alley, and while 400 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: little suburban valley boys realized their fantasies and gout with 401 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: the professionals from Hollywood and Vine, the guys in the 402 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: band would empty their pants pockets for their cash and 403 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: clean out the purses of the less suspecting prostitutes. Word 404 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: on the strip spread there was a party going on, 405 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: and it was wild, and Joe Perry couldn't believe his 406 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: eyes broad daylight fucking in the streets, he saw his man, 407 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: short dude, greasy black hair aviators sitting on the hood 408 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: of a car in the alley, restringing his less pall 409 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: to Joe. The kid reminded him of someone himself wired 410 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: to the actions surrounding him, but despite it all, in 411 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: constant touch with his true love his guitar. Joe approached 412 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: the kid, looked up immediately recognized his tar god hero. 413 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: He also took note of the desperation in his eyes. 414 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: The Jones Joe Perry started talking. If there was any 415 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: doubt before of who he was, it was immediately erased 416 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: by his thick Boston accent. Joe asked the kid, I'm 417 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: looking for something, are you my man? The kid looked 418 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: up from his guitar and deadpant, Hey, man, I'm just Izzy, 419 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: But what can I get for you? On July twenty first, 420 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, Guns N' Roses' debut album, Appetite for Destruction. 421 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: Was released. 422 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: Their stars started to slowly rise, but growing fame didn't 423 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: curtail the band's behavior, It only intensified it. Newfound celebrity 424 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: and notoriety started to create a sense of isolation for 425 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: Axel Rose. Wherever he went, he believed most people were 426 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: trying to keep him down, just like the authority figures 427 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: back home. Nowadays, the cops, the record labeled, the promoters, 428 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: and increasingly the press were all trying to bleed out 429 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: of him what it was that made him special in 430 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: the first place, To get him to tone it down, 431 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: to conform to their bullshit, to watch him bleed it 432 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: made no sense. His sense of self was what was 433 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: propelling his artistry and thus his band's popularity, and of 434 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: course his behavior but now he was supposed to what 435 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: becomes someone else, just because he now had a little fame, 436 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: It was making him paranoid and causing very dramatic mood swings. 437 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: The mood swings were always there, but when the band 438 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 1: was starting out, they'd derail a rehearsal or a party, 439 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: maybe a show. But as the band grew, so did 440 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: the stakes. The mood swings at this stage of Axel's 441 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: career were much harder for everyone to deal with. In 442 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: February nineteen eighty eight, just after their triumphant show at 443 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: the Ritz in New York City, Guns n' Roses embarked 444 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: on their first headlining tour. It was a big deal, 445 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: and Axel was a big mess. He was jankier than 446 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: usual and emotionally volatile. On February twelfth, for unspecified reasons, 447 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: Axel blew off one of the band's first headlining shows 448 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: in Phoenix, Arizona. He went missing and no one knew 449 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: where he was. The second show in Phoenix the next 450 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: night was also canceled. Axel's bandmates were incensed. You don't 451 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: pull a no show, not in the music business. It's 452 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: a death sentence, a career killer, and they contemplated kicking 453 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: Axel out of the band for the offense, and he 454 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: had little contrition in less than the way of an excuse. 455 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: He simply didn't show and he simply didn't care. If 456 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: they wanted to kick him out of the band, go ahead, 457 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: He told him who are you going to get to 458 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: replace me? And he knew his place in the band 459 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: was secure, but not without one major concession. 460 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: Axel had to agree with. 461 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: His band management and label to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. 462 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: Straight jacket, metal head brace, strapped down on a steel chair, 463 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: some sort of post World War two torture chamber type technique. 464 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: When people think of Axel Rose being psychologically evaluated by 465 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: a team of UCLA doctors, this is what they think of, 466 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: because this is the imagery and the famous Guns n' 467 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: Roses music video for Welcome to the Jungle. When the 468 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: song breaks down toward the end, we see the serpentine 469 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: singer strapped in clockwork oranged opposite a wall of violent 470 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: TV imagery. He looks insane, or at the very least 471 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: is being treated as such. Its art imitating life in way, 472 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: for Axel Rose, the real life evaluation was much scarier. 473 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: What he saw the brief glimpse into his past while 474 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: being mentally poked and prodded by doctors. It was truly traumatic, 475 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: and despite Axel's pension to follow gg Allen's lead and 476 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: the fuck authority, Axel knew the authority figures were finally 477 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: onto something. With the diagnosis bipolar. Whatever that even was, 478 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: it sure explained a lot the mood swings, the violence, 479 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: the intense irritability. At least now there was some sort 480 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: of reason in something to treat or at the very 481 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: least unpacked to rationalize things. And it was agreed by 482 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: everyone Axel would seek treatment and he'd be allowed back 483 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: in the band. But the mood swings didn't just all 484 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden stop. Axel in the rest of the 485 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: Guns n' Roses camp might have had a loose explanation 486 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: for what their volatile singer felt inside, but it didn't 487 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: just make the rage go away. And on August twentieth, 488 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, Axel Rose was thinking of none of 489 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: this as. 490 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: He took the stage. 491 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: Castle Donnington, England Monsters of Rock Festival on the bill 492 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: Headliner's Iron Maiden direct support Kiss Below Them solo David 493 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: Lee Roth and Megadeth on the Undercart, Guns N' Roses, 494 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: and Openers Halloween. Aside from Halloween, the other acts were 495 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: well established favorites, BUTS and Roses were fresh meat. 496 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: The new sensation. 497 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: Their single Sweet Child of Mine, released a month earlier, 498 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: was everywhere a monster hit, and as such G and 499 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: R were outperforming their positioning on the bottom of the bill. 500 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: Given their explosion of popularity at the time and the 501 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: excitement surrounding their unique brand of American hard rock, Guns 502 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: and Roses could very well have headlined Monsters to Rock, 503 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: and nobody would have gone home. Upset, Axel looked out 504 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: into the crowd, an ocean of leather, long hair, and denim, 505 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten thousand strong. It had been raining 506 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: for a week, and the festival grounds were muddy, messy, 507 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: kind of like his band. The sky was dark, moody, 508 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: just like him. The crowd was pitched with excitement, ready 509 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: to embrace him, but also ready to buy back, a 510 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: lot like those Axel loved and feared. At the same time, 511 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: those closest to him don't get too close. Don't get 512 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: too close. Axel could feel that the whole band could. 513 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: This was a different type of crowd a different a 514 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: vibed than anything they'd encountered before, and there were homemade 515 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: guns and roses banners rising up from the crowd. A 516 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: chance started burbling up from the back, thunder in the distance. 517 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: Random projectiles were being hurled around from impatient fans. A 518 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: squawk of feedback from Slash his less pall as he 519 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: checked his hand. Two quick hits on the snare from 520 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: Stephen as he took his seat. The champ grew louder. Axel, 521 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: from behind the drum kit nearly backstage, looked over Izzy 522 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: already on the stage, standing in front of his amp, 523 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: facing Axel, avoiding eye contact, dealing with detention, the anticipation 524 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: in his own way. His guitars slung over him, ltting 525 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: a cigarette, and to his right bassis stuff McKagan all 526 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: twenty two feet of him, standing straight facing the crowd, 527 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: his bass slung low nearly it seemed to his ankles, 528 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: ready to take the storm head on. 529 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: Axel looked Stephen in the eye. It was time. 530 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: Stephen knew what to do. He went at his toms 531 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: with a fury. It was a hiccup, a signal to 532 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: the crowd. 533 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: Shit was about to go. Off, not quite yet. 534 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: The crowd nearly lost it at the first hint through 535 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: real music from the stage, and they could see the band, 536 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: everyone but Axel, who was mostly hidden behind the kit, 537 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: and they screamed and they chanted as he rolled the 538 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: volume knob on his less pall to ten, gave his 539 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: strings a quick swap test his weapon, and turned and 540 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: nodded to Duff, who began beating his bass with the 541 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: opening downstroke line for it so easy. With this, the 542 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: crowd began screaming even louder, the drums and both guitars 543 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: claying down on the dusk's bassline. Stephen picked up with 544 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: the rolling snare, building the tension and the intro swelled. 545 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: The band hammered down into the song's opening riff, and 546 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: Axel sprinted out from backstage with mike in hand, and 547 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: the crowd lost at the collective shit. The crowd saw nothing. 548 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: They were blind with excitement. From the stage. The audience 549 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: looked so big and so energized that it seemed like 550 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: it was all one giant mass of humanity. It surged 551 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: as one a big, scary lurch. All of the band 552 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: members took notice, and this wasn't normal. There was no 553 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: crowd organization, no seating, barely any effect of security holding 554 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: the crowd in place. The band hit the chorus, another 555 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: giant surge. Bottles were now raining down onto the crowd 556 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: and the stage, big thirty two ounce beer bottles that 557 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: were purchased empty and then pissed into by the crowd 558 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: to avoid the bathroom lines. The little piss bombs exploded 559 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: onto the stage. Slash exploded into the solo. The song 560 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: soon rapped. The band looked at each other with trepidation. 561 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: Something clearly was right. They eased into their neck song, hesited, instinctively, 562 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: afraid of what might happen, of what this crowd, this giant, unhinged, 563 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: unsecured men of crowd that was unlike anything any of 564 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: them had ever seen before, might do, and their hesitancy didn't. 565 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: Seconds into the next song, the crowd went ape shit. 566 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: It lurched forward again in one giant wave, and then 567 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: a hole in the middle of the crowd opened up. 568 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: Within seconds, bodies were sucked into an undertow of humanity. 569 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: A massive moshpit began. Most in the audience were powerless 570 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: to the will of the collective crowd. It moved as 571 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: one fan's feet were lifted up off the ground and 572 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: their bodies swept up on top of the crowd, where 573 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: they were passed over and over again until they'd eventually 574 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: land back on their feet in an entirely different part 575 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: of the festival grounds. The violent collective movement of the 576 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: audience was so intense that Izzy stopped playing. The rest 577 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: of the band quickly followed suit. Axel tried his best 578 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: from the front of the stage to chill the crowd. 579 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: Out bodies began being pulled out of the muddy melee, injured, 580 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: in need of medical attention, but alive, order, it seemed, 581 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: had been restored. The band kicked back into their set 582 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: with Paradise City, and then shit got real. 583 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: The Masian Ultra Violet relentless. 584 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of people worked into a fit, slamming 585 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: wildly into each other to the sounds of what was 586 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: now clearly the most dangerous band on the planet in 587 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: front of them. Off of the center of the stage, 588 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: the crowd collapsed into itself. Thirty to fifty people sank 589 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: down and into the muddy ground, and when they did, 590 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: a wave of more fans washed over them. Most tripped, 591 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: some fell, Swarms of bodies passed overhead, trampling others under 592 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 1: their feet. The crowd continued to sway uncontrollably as one, 593 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: and with a single false move, it seemed to the 594 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: band that it could collapse in on itself again at 595 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: any moment, or perhaps even overtake the stage, and. 596 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: The band was frightened. 597 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: They tried cooling things down with a new acoustic number, Patients, 598 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: and then gave it one more shot with Sweet Child 599 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: of Mind, but it was no use. The crowd was 600 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: too intense, too terrifying, and after the tune the band bailed. 601 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: Axel's temper once again got the better of him, and 602 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: he spat into the mic before leaving the stage, have 603 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: a great fucking day, and try not to fucking kill yourselves. 604 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: Little did he know two of his fans in the 605 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: crowd were already dead, stomped to death during his band's 606 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: short set. Both bodies were so mangled they needed to 607 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: be identified by the tattoos on their arms. When the 608 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: band learned of the deaths, they were devastated, shocked, and saddened. 609 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: When they learned that the press was blaming the band 610 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: for the deaths, they were pissed. The newspapers and the 611 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: magazines neglected to report the Guns n' Roses had stopped 612 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: the show multiple times, or that they had cut their 613 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: short set due to the violence, and the press is 614 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: categorization of the event of the dead kids at the 615 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: concert that it was all somehow the fault of the 616 00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: dangerous rockers from hedonistic Los Angeles was total bullshit. Band 617 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: knew it, and the press, if they were being honest 618 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: with themselves, knew it too. But the truth doesn't necessarily sell, 619 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: and so began Axelrose's long term war with the media. 620 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: It seemed to him that the press. 621 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: Had no appetite for the truth, only an appetite for 622 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: his personal destruction. 623 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: It was a complete disgrace. 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