1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff. 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: I never told your production of I Heart Radio. So 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: before we get into the topic of this Monday many, 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: I have an update of fun update that I want 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: to share. Okay, so last night my mom called me 6 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: on Google duo um and my mom is not a 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: very technical person and apparently it took her like thirty 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: minutes of consulting with people to to do it. And 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: it was great. We got to see each other and 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: she was kind of just had her phone set on 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: her lap, and she said that she's been doing this 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: to communicate with her family, but she hates it because 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: she thinks that her her she looks very bad. And 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: I told her, well, you know, Mom, I'll share a 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: trick with you. If you hold the camera like up 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: and you get this angle, that it's going to be better. 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: And she acted like I gave her the most amazing 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: discovery of all time. She was delighted. She kept thinking 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: she was like in awe and I felt it was 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: so sweet. It was so sweet. They you can't really 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: pay a good price to get good angles. She was 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: like calling people in the house like you would never 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: believe it. Annie just showed her. I can't wait to 24 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: tell you that's adorable. Did you also tell her there 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: are filters so she could just hide her face that 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: she wanted to see. I actually don't know how to 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: use the filters, but I'm gonna figure that out. I'm 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: going to figure that out today and I'm going to 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: send her a message. Because she didn't know what I 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: was talking about. She couldn't envision it. I was like, oh, yeah, 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: you do do all this stuff. All you do is 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: if you and I think you have to record message, 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: just record the message and like over to the side, 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: you'll see like faces and you on it, and it 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: has all the different options. My favorite is the fish face. 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: Yes you've sent me that one before. I like that 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: one a lot. You can frown. It's really hard trying 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: to finn as a fish, but it's really fun. Okay, 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna do that after this because I 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: promised her I would send her a message today with 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: a filter on it, because it was it was so 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: fun to see her, so to fly you would be 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: a cat. The cat one is fun because a little 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: paul out at the bottom. M hm, come on, it's 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: kind of adorable, all right, Oh, maybe I'll send her 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: multiple messages because they've got a new filter is you're 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a robot. I mean all these things, I'm 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: gonna make her day. I'm gonna make your day again. 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: But Okay, that was just something I wanted to share. Today, 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: we are talking about some gender differences that have come 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: up been covered a lot in articles during this pandemic. Um. 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: Of course, even during a pandemic, we can't escape these 53 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: gender differences. UM. I did want it to in here. 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: We're not really going to talk about this too much, 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: but the Academy Francais and these are the guardians of 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: the French language, have officially ruled that COVID nineteen is feminine, 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: despite the fact that the word coronavirus is masculine, and 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: they've told people to stop using the masculine article for 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. And in case you're wondering, yes, it is 60 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of old white men and weird robes with swords, 61 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: because obviously they have to protect the language as well 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: as you know, make sure they don't know. The downfall 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: of man was women, or rather was a female. So 64 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: let's go on a recent survey of almost twenty people 65 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: found American men less likely to wear masks, and we 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: didn't talk about this before because they think it makes 67 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: them look weak, quote, shameful, quote not cool. Um. President 68 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: drop is a great example in the constant berating in 69 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: I guess poking at Joe Biden for wearing his which 70 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: that's the least of my complaint about Joe Biden, just 71 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: to put that there. Um. And this gap disappeared when 72 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: mask wearing was mandatory. Yeah, so if it's a choice, 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: then it's shameful not cool. I'm not gonna wear it. 74 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: But if it's mandatory, okay, I'll wear it. They still 75 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: are protesting even if they are mandated and definitely don't 76 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: like it. Yeah yeah, um And and you all probably 77 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: know this, but recent studies have proven that mask wearing 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: is effective. One even found that people in the US 79 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: wore a mask when going out cases would drop to 80 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: one twelve the current rate of infection. That's pretty huge. 81 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: Intersectional side. Um, there is definitely the intersection of black 82 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: people and Asian people being more harassed or more likely 83 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: to be harassed for wearing masks outside. Um. There's also 84 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: the whole argument about Muslim women in France not being 85 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: allowed to wear face fails, but face masks are required, 86 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: but they still aren't allowed to wear face fails. So 87 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: there's that. The same study found that men are less 88 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: likely to believe that they will be impacted by the virus. 89 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: And I know we talked about this a little bit, Samantha, 90 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: but in my anecdotal observance, which doesn't mean only in 91 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: my experience, a lot of my male friends are definitely 92 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: a lot more like if I get it, I get it, 93 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: and I keep trying to be like sure, but then 94 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: if you get it and other people get it, uh, like, 95 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: it's not just about you, buddy. Um. Men are less 96 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: likely to observe social distancing. Women are twice as likely 97 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: in general, and some studies suggest that men wash their 98 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: hands less often, right, I mean that was a conversation 99 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: I think when uh, the CDC came out with please 100 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: wash your hands, Please wash your hands, and then the 101 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: men complaining and everybody ever, a lot of women, females 102 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: who were like, were you not watching her hands? I 103 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: know I had that exact thought. I was like, how 104 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: many people haven't been washing there? Right? They're like, wait, 105 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: why is this so bothered? So why are you so 106 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: thatsould be that difficult another episode. I guess maybe hygiene. 107 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um And the sad truth is men 108 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: are actually more likely to be impacted. We know this. 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: It kills more men than women. Spain, Italy, and Germany 110 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: all have reported that around sixty of the death were men. 111 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: A study published in February by the CDC found that 112 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 1: though the infection rate was about the same, men died 113 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: at a higher rate, almost double the big number UM. 114 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: States that report death rate by gender, like New York 115 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: have found the same thing. Similar numbers were found in 116 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighteen flu pandemic and in the Merge and 117 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Stars outbreaks. Women in general t to have more robust 118 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: immune systems, probably because of pregnancy. Yeah, you know what, 119 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: that's definitely a factor. Experts aren't sure if this is 120 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: hormonal um and differences in the immune system response or 121 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: due to behaviors like not wearing a mask and not 122 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: social distancing are probably a little bit bit of both. 123 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: Current trials are looking into the effectiveness of hormone patches 124 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to COVID nineteen symptoms. Another theory goes 125 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: that the increased deadliness and men might be because more 126 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: men smoke than women, and beyond compromising your immune system 127 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: and your lungs, that also increases your contact with your face. 128 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: The number in China's fifty of men smoke compared to 129 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: about three percent of women, which is massive. UM. That 130 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: number is not nearly as there's not nearly as big 131 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: a gap in the US, but there's still a gap. 132 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: More men smoke than women. Women are also likelier to 133 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: take better care of themselves in general right And at 134 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: the same time, men are less likely to seek until 135 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: the situation is more dire and more likely to have 136 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: underlying conditions. UH. Dr Deborah Burkes even spoke to this, 137 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: advising all men with symptoms to get tested like a 138 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: statement in a like press conference, she said, Man, if 139 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: you've got symptoms, go get tested. For the love of 140 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: all that is good, just go get tested. Um, if 141 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: it's available. That's conversation, UM, and deaths are still being 142 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: under reported, so we don't even have the full picture. UM. 143 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: We started just ongoing. A lot of things are going 144 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: on here. I know there's some conflict about the number 145 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: that's out now being inaccurate and needing to recount, and 146 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: just that conversation, what with California about how early was 147 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: the first case wasn't exactly what they said it was, 148 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: or was it actually before then? Yeah, so at these 149 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: numbers are changing constantly, and just the way people document 150 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: their numbers across the world is kind of different. So 151 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: as always know those caveats when you see these eye 152 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: catching head lines. Um, but it definitely seems like something 153 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: is going on here. Um. And I was thinking about this, 154 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: and I wonder if it could be expanded in all 155 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: those articles about how it appears that female world leaders 156 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: are doing a better job handling COVID nineteen if you 157 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: look at just into our turn of New Zealand, Angelo, Merkel, Germany, Taiwan, Norway, um, 158 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: which is a very small sample size. I know we 159 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: talked about it in an upcoming episode, or perhaps that 160 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: episodes already come out time as weird it doesn't, but 161 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: it is interesting to to consider that maybe some of 162 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: this that we're talking about here could also be expanded 163 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: out into women leaders. Right, that's kind of the overall 164 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: what is going on in these gender differences in our pandemic. 165 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: If we missed anything, please let us know if you 166 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,479 Speaker 1: think we should expand this out into a whole episode. 167 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: Please let us know. Our email is Stuff Media mom 168 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: Stuff at iHeart media dot com. 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