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Speaker 1: because I think about all the things they've forgotten, all

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? The reason they call it

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Speaker 1: vehicle when you park on leaves, the breed, dry wood,

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Speaker 1: fire issue. Welcome to the radio home of Ron and

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Speaker 1: Anian the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners

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Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage orders are open,

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Speaker 1: but I am here to call at eight five and

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Speaker 1: now running. Did you ever have one of those work

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Speaker 1: weeks where or did you ever notice that sometimes your

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Speaker 1: work week just flows really well. It's you know, Monday

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Speaker 1: It's just you know, one job flows into the next,

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Speaker 1: or one task flows into the next, and it's very

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Speaker 1: And then sometimes you get a week where it's like

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Speaker 1: the paraphrase Forrest Gump, you know life is like a

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Speaker 1: box of chocolates. Well, sometimes auto repair is like a

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Speaker 1: box of chocolates. You're never quite sure what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: And those are probably the best weeks. Those are the

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Speaker 1: particular week, the box of chocolates was really hearty. Dodge

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Speaker 1: Rix a regular customer. He came for a service one

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Speaker 1: because we wanted a Chrysler Owe part. We like Oie

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Speaker 1: parts for something like that, and they didn't have it.

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Speaker 1: It was on back order. Now there's two choices for

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Speaker 1: tail lamps for this Doge Ram pickup. And maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a Ram pick up. Maybe they're not Dodge anymore, it's

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Speaker 1: a Ram pickup Chrysler, and two choices. It's a three

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Speaker 1: tail lamp for this big piece of plastic. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't think that's bad enough, or it's nine hundred

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Speaker 1: fifty eight dollars for this piece of plastic because it's

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Speaker 1: got an optical backup sensor in it, depending upon how

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Speaker 1: the vehicles equipped Hello aids. Right, you hear me talking

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Speaker 1: about automated automatic automated driver assist systems. Right. And fortunately

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Speaker 1: for Rick, he didn't have the thousand dollar tail lamp.

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Speaker 1: He had the three tail lamp doesn't matter. The three

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Speaker 1: D tail lamps on back order. We were able to

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Speaker 1: I wonder we're gonna do it on Monday. But it

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Speaker 1: just got me to thinking, like three for a piece

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Speaker 1: And you know I thought about that car for a

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Speaker 1: probably parts labor calibration because you've got a calibrated for

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Speaker 1: because it's simple for her. She's she has a legitimate

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Speaker 1: what the electrical circuit looks like. And I ran through.

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Speaker 1: I looked at four original equipment diagrams right from the

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Speaker 1: Ford website. I looked at Mitchell, I looked at all data.

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Speaker 1: production for three years, you may find incomplete, inaccurate, or

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Speaker 1: just inconsistent drawings. So it doesn't hurt to go and

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Speaker 1: and I have these three seem to make the most sense.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with this is what it came down to.

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Speaker 1: Now fuse number eighteen on No. Five Mercury. In case

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Speaker 1: as fusee a team covering a oh five Mercury? The

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Speaker 1: it was all there. It didn't I didn't see any

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Speaker 1: and went through the motions. Went to start the car,

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Speaker 1: And I realized I couldn't. I couldn't find a wiring diagram.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's what you don't see that tells you what's

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Speaker 1: going on, right, I couldn't find a wiring diagram for

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Speaker 1: the car fires right up. Step on the brake lights.

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Speaker 1: I haven't. I don't have a right break light. But

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Speaker 1: I realized, which I was surprised at, it's an L

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Speaker 1: recall seeing many l e d s on cars seventeen

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Speaker 1: thinking to myself, does it sound like a margarita at

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Speaker 1: five o'clock? Because there's water slashing around inside the lamp,

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Speaker 1: and I turned it upside down on all the water

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Speaker 1: pours out. Remember the floods we just had. Remember all

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Speaker 1: proved it several times. Out connected it. It blows, unconnected,

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Speaker 1: I'm off, I'm off the conversation talking to her. Then

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Speaker 1: that should be on a standalone circuit, not just for

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Speaker 1: I need a tail lamp for the car. Okay, get it?

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Speaker 1: I call up Ford. Forward's the only place you can

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Speaker 1: get this tail lamp, by the way, unless you buy

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Speaker 1: it used on eBay, which I don't know how comfortable

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Speaker 1: I feel buying a seventeen year old tail lamp for

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Speaker 1: a vehicle on eBay, because what if it happens all

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Speaker 1: over again? And I'll tell you exact why I think

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Speaker 1: This made the dot. This made the Ram pickup truck

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Speaker 1: It's still available. There's three of them left in Detroit

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Speaker 1: and they are almost twelve a piece. Yeah, makes their

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Speaker 1: makes the Ram pickup truck tail lamp for three look cheap, right,

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Speaker 1: So you know what choice does Mary have? She's got

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Speaker 1: to put this twelve tail lamp in the car, and

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Speaker 1: we ordered it and we'll do it next week. But

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Speaker 1: you have to say to yourself, you know there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a statement there. There's a bigger statement being applied

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Speaker 1: because you know, here here you have someone that's you know,

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Speaker 1: which why should she spend I don't know what are

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Speaker 1: where you are, Tom, I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: more about this. Two thousand and eleven J M. C

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Speaker 1: Dr Tom Nack, New York. You're still there, sir, Yes?

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Speaker 1: Can I just give you two more pieces of information?

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Speaker 1: You know what do I always tell you Tom, I

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Speaker 1: I want misfire per cylinder. I'd like to see calculated

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Speaker 1: got a question. Uh, And I've asked other people. I

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00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: was a mechanic for forty years. I'm and I'm retired.

427
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: Like God, everybody else do my work for me. God

428
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: bless you, Don. You made it out. Huh and uh,

429
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: I just once in a while, like I might change

430
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: my hole or or something like that. But I wanted

431
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: to change the cabin filter, and I got six heat

432
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: doouand Miles on his and uh I took both of

433
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: the US have compartment chat and there's a unit there

434
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,479
Speaker 1: that's got a lot of wires running into it, and

435
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure it looks like it might be something for

436
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: the air bag, but there's a cabin filter. So the

437
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: cabin filter on this vehicle, if it's equipped, and it's

438
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: probably not, it probably has a provision for it. So

439
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: that's why you'll see a listing in a parts house

440
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: supply catalog, but it's probably not equipped. My experience has

441
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: been GMCs being the less expensive version of a Chevrolet

442
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: quote unquote, and I'm dating myself right, that's the way

443
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: it was back in the sixties and the seventies. G

444
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: mcs tend not to have the bells and whistles. So

445
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: what you need to do is take down the insulator

446
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: underneath the blower motor on the right side of the

447
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: dash crawl. You know when you feel that when you

448
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: feel the doorsill in between your shoulder blades and you're

449
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: in that painful spot. Look up at the blower motor.

450
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: Next to the blower motor, there's gonna be a rectangular

451
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: portion oh ten inches by two inches wide that you'll

452
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 1: see an embossed or raised plastic rib. All right, that's

453
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: that's X marks the spot. Brother, that's where they want

454
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: you to take the razor knife cut that hole out.

455
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: That's where the cabin filter would go. All right, you've

456
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: got to go down to your GM dealer. You've got

457
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: a pencil and paper. All right, you want filter kit

458
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: part number eight. If you can get your hands on

459
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: T S B S or or preliminary information. Take a

460
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: look at p I twelve sixteen. It talks about and

461
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: this goes back to I think it was April or

462
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: may I remember because it was just before my birthday

463
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: on the fourteenth. That's how you don't ask me why

464
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: I remember these things. And uh um. It talks about

465
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: if you had dust coming into the cabin, and they

466
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: list all the vehicles that don't have cabin filters that

467
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: this kid applies to, and it does apply to yours,

468
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: and that's why you can't find it. I noticed behind

469
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: that the unit there's a little like a spunge stoker.

470
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: Uh with the in a like a plastic container. Uh,

471
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: but you can't get to it right, Yeah, No, this

472
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be a particular filter. The particular cabin filter

473
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: has to be located in proximity to the blower motor,

474
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: so that as it's passing air over either the evaporator,

475
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: the heater or core, it's being filtered. Okay, one more question,

476
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: sure too for Nickel. Are you saying that that's it's

477
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: the GM it's the cheaper of the two. Well, that's

478
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: generally the way it was always explained to me as

479
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: a kid. You know, what was the difference, And that's

480
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: what I've come to see. Whereas GMC was more of

481
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: a truck truck and Chevrolet and I'm not saying anything

482
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: bad about it, I'm just saying for bells and whistles,

483
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, for you know, for bells and whistles,

484
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: it seems like you can go to Chevrolet. Like if

485
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: you compare a GMC to a Chevrolet, more often than

486
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: not you'll find less trim and less option levels available

487
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: from GMC. It was more of a workman's truck, which

488
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: is got a better model because thing has everything on it. Well,

489
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: either that or we're just all spoiled because they put

490
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: everything and everything now, you know, I mean I kind

491
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: of wonder why GMC is still around if you think

492
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: about it, well, well, only because if they're both coming

493
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: off the same assembly line, there's gotta be a marketing

494
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: or promotional or mechanical difference on why they still make

495
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: gmcas and Chevrolet is Otherwise Chevrolet is competing against itself, right.

496
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: It's that was interesting to know. I've had the truck.

497
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: It was new, and I've only got chick to you

498
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: one day. I was and miles on it, uh and uh,

499
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: no problems. But I really appreciate your information and listen

500
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: to you every week on I can and uh, thank

501
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: you a lot. Thank you. You're doing a great job

502
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: out there. Thank you, sir. You make me proud. I

503
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: appreciate that you'd be well. Stay safe. Five five zero

504
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: nine zero running any of the Car Doctor coming back

505
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: right after this, don't go away? Welcome back. Run name

506
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: the car Doctor here at eight five five zero nine

507
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: zero zero. Let's get over to Chuck in Tennessee ninep

508
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: Grand Cherokee, Chuck. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. Hevery wrong,

509
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. How are you to day? I'm

510
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: good man, I'm good. What's going on? Well, I've got

511
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: the ninety five grand Cherokee three eighteen engine and UH

512
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: drove a body fuel and jack and it started chugging

513
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: like it was starving for gas. And then it it

514
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: runs out or it seems like it runs out of gas.

515
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: But I've replaced the fuel pump, replaced the filters, UH clean,

516
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: the injectors have UH and you can put a gauge

517
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: on it and the fuel pressure stays good when it

518
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: does this. We've watched it at idle and it will

519
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: do it at idle, or it'll running down the road

520
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: and UH, I've replaced the time and position sensor. Anything

521
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: that I thought could be electrically or or fuel related

522
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: that could cause it to seem to run out of

523
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: the gas. But when it does this, you can start

524
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: it back and it may or may not still UH idle.

525
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: Roughly it may just be smooth the silk, and then

526
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: you drive two miles five miles and it will do

527
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: it again. Is it a case where sometimes will maybe

528
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: it won't start until it sits for a little bit.

529
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: Um Usually when it stops, they'll start back. But I'm

530
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: wondered if it couldn't. Well, I'm not necessarily thinking temperature.

531
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: My other question would be when it goes in installs,

532
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: have you checked to see does it have spark just

533
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: or you're you're basing that it has sparked because it

534
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: restarts every time. Yes, it doesn't really seem to drop

535
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: the cylinder it. Well, No, I'm not thinking. I'm not thinking.

536
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not see I'm not I'm not thinking symptoms.

537
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking conditions right now. You know, does it

538
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: have spark? Pull a random plug? Um, go buy a

539
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: go buy a cheap spark tester from your local Orelioto Parts.

540
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: Sticking on the end of the plug wire, Let it

541
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: run till it dies? How long before it dies with

542
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: it dies sitting there in the in the service bay

543
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: five minutes? Ten minutes? Yeah? Okay? Um? You know, or

544
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: they make they'll make different into spark testers, I know,

545
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: Oralliota Parts has them where you can tie it in

546
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: series with the plug and you can actually see the

547
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: spark jump the gap, jump the gap, jump the gap,

548
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, does the spark look

549
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: like it's getting weak? Is it going away? All right?

550
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: And I just I just I just want to test that.

551
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: All right, at least I can take spark off the table.

552
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: You know you've changed. I believe what you're talking about

553
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: when you say timing sensor is crank position sensor. Right,

554
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, so every part you change now runs the

555
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: potential of creating a different problem, not getting at the original,

556
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: right if we work on the theory of new not

557
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: being good. Okay, that's why I don't like parts changing.

558
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons. All right, let's eliminate spark

559
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: as it's happening. All right? Uh, spent when you're when

560
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: you're at the when you're at your local Radioto parts

561
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: spend twenty bucks by a mechanic stethoscope makes you look official.

562
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: You could be the official card doctor in Tennesse. Say

563
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: all right, and listen to the injectors. Click click, click,

564
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: click click. Get used to the sound when it goes

565
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: into that no start stumble, you know where it's dying

566
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: out condition. If you're quick and you listen to the injectors,

567
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: do you hear them stop? Do they stop being pulsed?

568
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: All right? Do they still sound the same? Are they consistent?

569
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: What I'm what I'm questioning is, does this vehicle because

570
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: some of them did have an anti theft system. Do

571
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: you know if this vehicle has anti theft on it?

572
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: It does? Okay? How come the anti theft module isn't

573
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: on your list of possibilities because here's what will here's

574
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: what will happen, all right. If this is an anti

575
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: theft event, you'll have spark. You won't have injector pulse,

576
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: all right, and that matches your scenario. You'll have fuel pressure,

577
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: you just won't get a pulse out of the injector. Okay,

578
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: all right, So so I'm just trying, trying too. I

579
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: believe in ninety five you would still have fuel pressure.

580
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: You would lose you would lose fuel pulse, injector puls

581
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: is what they did. All right. When it stalls, if

582
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: you cycle the key back off and turn it back

583
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: on without cranking it, you know, turn it off, count

584
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: to ten, turn it back on. Does do you hear

585
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: the fuel pump prime? Yes? Okay, tell you what Sit tight.

586
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Let me pull over. Take this pause. When we come back,

587
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: we'll finish. I'm run any in the car. Doctor will

588
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: be back right after this. Come back running in the car, doctor, Chuck,

589
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: you're still here in Tennessee. I'm still here. Okay, sir,

590
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: I got two minutes, so let me be quick. When

591
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: this starts to die When this jeep Grand Cherokee starts

592
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: to die out, do you have a fuel pressure gate

593
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: hooked up to it? Yes? I have had a fuel

594
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: pressure day hooked up to it, and fuel pressure stays

595
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: come so it stays constant, it doesn't drop off. Okay. So,

596
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: and the reason I asked that is, and I'll explain

597
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: my reason is, there is a fuel pump relay which

598
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: is powered through a few six on this vehicle and

599
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: the powered distribution box under the hood, and then there

600
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: is an automatic shutdown and a S D relay. Are

601
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: you familiar with that? I'm not, all right. There's an

602
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: A s D relay which is also computer controlled, but

603
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: it's fed through fuse number two in the powered distribution center.

604
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: The good news is that the trigger for the A

605
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: s D and the fuel pump relay both come out

606
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: of the PCM if it's maintaining fuel pressure. I don't.

607
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: And and my question is, is for some reason the

608
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: A s D relay shutting off? All right? You could

609
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: have a bad relay. You can have a relay that's

610
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: simply overheating, and it will shut the car down. Fuel

611
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: pressure will stay good, fuel pump will still run, It'll

612
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: still cycle like you it should when you turn the

613
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: key on and off at the inject as the computer

614
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: tries to prime the rail. But you could have an

615
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: A s D and automatic shutdown relay trigger problem. All right,

616
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: I would like to see I'd like to see you

617
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: start to break the circuits in half. What are we losing?

618
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: All right? Grab yourself a wiring diagram. Go find fuse

619
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: number two in the power distribution center. All right, find

620
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: if you can find the red wire coming out on

621
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: pin A five that actually feeds the A s D

622
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: relay from the PDC, and monitor its voltage if it

623
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: has twelve volts, and you can find the A s

624
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: D relay. Does the A s D relay click out

625
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: and then the vehicle starts to stutter install or does

626
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 1: it stutter install and then the A s D relay

627
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: clicks out? Which comes first? The chicken or the egg?

628
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: All right? Stop throwing parts at it, brother, Let's let's

629
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: break this down into what are we losing? Spark fuel,

630
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: anti theft. I have a cure for anti theft two

631
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: about taking it out of the system because I don't

632
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: think you necessarily needed for but let's do some basic diagnostics.

633
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: Calling back next week I can take you further. I'm

634
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: running any in the car doctor looking up and saying,

635
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: what a quick hour this was, as a pleasure to

636
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: be here, in an honor to serve until the next time.

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Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Se