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Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? Welcome to a brand new episode. I

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Speaker 1: think it's episode four of season six of Wrestling with Freddy.

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Speaker 1: Today it's Wrestling with Friends because with me, he's the

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Speaker 1: greatest co host known to mankind. Mister jeff Dy, we're

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Speaker 1: going to start this show, and we're going to start

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Speaker 1: it right now, and.

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Speaker 2: Now your main event introducing the hosts are Wrestling with Freddy,

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Speaker 2: Jef Died and Freddy Prience Junior.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jeffrey, how are you sir? Where have you been?

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Speaker 1: How is your weekend? What cities were you in? You

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Speaker 1: travel all over this beautiful country? How is I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 3: Just got back from Calgary in Canada and uh international. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I'm doing Netflix as a Joke festival in town

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Speaker 3: this week and then I go to Dayton, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: On the weekend.

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Speaker 3: So if you're near Dayton, which is like Cincinnati and

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Speaker 3: all the surrounding Ohio areas, I'll be at the Funny

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Speaker 3: Bone in Dayton.

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Speaker 1: Great state Ohio, great people from Ohio. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people from Ohio. One of my favorite people

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Speaker 1: since actress I worked with a long time ago, named

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Speaker 1: Monica Potter. She's crazy. I watch her punch this dude

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Speaker 1: in the face. I watched her throw another guy down

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Speaker 1: some stairs when he like tried to like put his

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Speaker 1: and he raised her tough like. She didn't take shit

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Speaker 1: guy was talking mad shit and tried to grab her

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Speaker 1: I thought he met like in the movie or something. No,

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Speaker 1: dude's in real life. Man. She's motherfucker Monica Potter. She

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Speaker 1: was in Patch Adams with Robin Williams back in the day,

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of other movies, and I made a

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Speaker 1: tough bird. If you ever see her in the streets,

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Speaker 1: watch yourself onto some serious shit. Every year, there's releases

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Speaker 1: in the WWE. Very rarely do wrestlers ask for their

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Speaker 1: releases and are granted that release. And that's what happened

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Speaker 1: this week in wrestling. A bunch of wrestlers have been released. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: you guys know you listened to other podcasts, but the

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Speaker 1: New Day, we're asked to renegotiate their contracts in a

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Speaker 1: time when TKO and WWE made a larger profit than

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Speaker 1: the UFC did, in a time where the bonuses are

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Speaker 1: eleven and twelve million dollars, they're asking the labor force

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Speaker 1: stock price. This is always kind of crazy and hardcore

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Speaker 1: to me. I get releases. Happened under Vince McMahon too,

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Speaker 1: every single year, so that that just that's a part

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Speaker 1: executives are getting raises by asking labor to take pay cuts,

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Speaker 1: there's a problem. And those problems usually turn into a

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Speaker 1: unification of labor, and that unification of labor deciding to say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we're not playing this game anymore, and

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about unions now, and you guys have to

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Speaker 1: take care of us better than you're taking care of us.

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Speaker 1: And I really hope that's not where this is going.

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Speaker 1: That's like the dramatic, oh my god, holy shit thing,

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Speaker 1: But it's still a possibility when you're treating people poorly

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Speaker 1: and you're no longer the only game in town with

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Speaker 1: aew being around now, so the New Day asked for

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Speaker 1: their release. Xavier Woods and Kofi Kingston when they were

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Speaker 1: and Big Eie reposted their stuff and showed some love

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Speaker 1: to to his New Day brethren. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: people are angry, a lot of people are sad. We're

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Speaker 1: just here to report the news without emotion, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: But it was, Oh, I got some emotions. No, I

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Speaker 1: strange day. But uh, you know, Xavier Woods was like

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Speaker 1: season one. He's such a creative dude. He's really really

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Speaker 1: Take it away, Jeff Die, I.

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Speaker 3: Agree with everything you said as far as these things go.

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Speaker 3: The good thing is that wrestling fans need to remember

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure that things might circle back or maybe

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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 3: They're not going anywhere, So I'm excited to see what's

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Speaker 3: what's next for them. And the silver lining on a

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Speaker 3: I see it as all all positive and how it works.

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Speaker 3: Every year I crash out about NFL players renegotiating their

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Speaker 3: renegotiate their contracts. So these things happen both ways all

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Speaker 3: the time, and so yeah, that's just how it works. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: the business side of all the things we love is

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine for a second the tag team division

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Speaker 1: Imagine the New Day the herb business FTR, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Edge and Christian if they're still allowed to they might

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Speaker 1: the Young Day, we might get that how exciting those

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Speaker 1: wrestling fans to ask themselves, genuinely, sincerely, sit there and

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Speaker 1: to yourself, this is so unfair that Kofi and Xavier

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Speaker 3: It wasn't really going over the heelter and kind of

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear the audience go crazy.

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Speaker 3: Are you super disappointed that Edge isn't in WWE right now?

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Speaker 1: When a wrestler isn't at WW anymore. I don't know

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Speaker 3: Like like the Wyatt six was popping up once every

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Speaker 3: everyone goes, oh, this is terrible. It's like we've deleted

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Speaker 3: Like this is a rebirth. We're gonna get to see

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I would push back a little with

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of the Grayson Waller stuff with

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Speaker 1: not because of what is. They expect a better story

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Speaker 1: like anti corporal podcasts probably talk about it. But that's

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Speaker 1: as their boss, when you're getting a raise, Like that's

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Speaker 1: I didn't they were asked to take pay cuts. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. They asked to restructure the talent's contract.

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Speaker 1: because we're trying to cut costs. Is the basic conversation.

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Speaker 1: They asked me to cut my quote so that all

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Speaker 1: I was like, so, who's giving the other actors a raise?

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Speaker 1: looking at him, like, hey man, what's this dude doing here?

428
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 1: And Moxley gives him a little tickle. He's like, don't worry.

429
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: He'd worry too much, Puck. And he goes back to

430
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: Ospray and he's like, look, if you're gonna do this,

431
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: you do it all the way. I don't make promises,

432
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't make guarantees, but I will tell you I

433
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: see shit through to the end. But your half of

434
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: the promise, your half of this deal, is you have

435
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: to leave all your bullshit behind Are you willing to

436
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: sacrifice who you are for who you want to become?

437
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 1: That's the question that he's really asking him, and will

438
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 1: Ospray answers silently. He doesn't even speak. He just kind

439
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: of nods, walks into this creepy all the way, gets

440
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: ready to grapple with Claudio Cosignoli and then John Moxley.

441
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 1: This is the best part of the promo. Turns to

442
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: the camera and he says the following is proprietary, so

443
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: you gotta fuck off. You can't watch, and he shows

444
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: the camera out and it was awesome. All it makes

445
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: you want is what's Osprey gonna do? We love will

446
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a bad guy. But even though

447
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: the death writers are bad guys, would kind of love

448
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: them because they're the bad guys that we like. They're

449
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: the badass bad guys. Are we gonna like will Ospray

450
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: even more? Jeff? This is I'm not saying this is

451
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: the best story because I don't. I haven't seen like

452
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: enough of it to throw that on there. But this

453
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: is my favorite story in all of the soap operas

454
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: that are professional wrestling. What say you, sir? I love it.

455
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time I've seen a good kidnapping,

456
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: So that was a good part of it all. I

457
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: was so excited about that. I was like, that's amazing,

458
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: I know we could do that, Like it's very good.

459
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: I love that they Like I was gonna mention it,

460
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 3: but you just said it when when Maxie turned to

461
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 3: the camera and was like, this is private, like like

462
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: the idea that we don't get to see. That is

463
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 3: added a nice layer of realism to it that I

464
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: really appreciated and liked. I do feel conflicted too, as

465
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: a as a Christian man, because I'm like, is this

466
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 3: the dark side like tempting him and I'm going do it,

467
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: you know, I want him to?

468
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: Or are they not the dark side?

469
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: Are they like a sympathetic group of people that have

470
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: been through some stuff and that that there. Are they

471
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: the the radical Jedis versus the Empire?

472
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: You know?

473
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 3: Are they the terrorist little group or or are they

474
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: the Empire? Are they the bad guys? Like I don't like,

475
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just how you kind of view it.

476
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 3: And so I'm love, love, love loving the story, but

477
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: I but I am feeling a little conflicted the whole

478
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: time about I'm not knowing sure, whatever they do, I'm

479
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: gonna be excited and enjoy it. But at least when

480
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 3: I was a kid, I knew who I was rooting

481
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: for in wrestling. And now I'm even asking myself, like,

482
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: do I like these guys or not?

483
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I think it's so cool. I think everybody's

484
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: getting over in every segment they do. I think Marina

485
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: Shaffir is doing great with all this stuff. Like in

486
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: last week's when she's like cracking his neck and like

487
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: waking them up with water and like all this shit.

488
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: I was just like, yo, that's a money little character

489
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: quirk that she brings to the table. She's like, yeah,

490
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: I'm also the team chiropractor what Like, Yeah, it's just

491
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,239
Speaker 1: this little one like unlicensed, but that's our We've all

492
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: gotten an unlicensed crack here and there. But yeah, Like

493
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: I love what she's doing. I love what Pok's doing.

494
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: I love what what Daniel's doing. I love what Claudio's

495
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: doing coming out in the in the Luja Mask, I

496
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: think that's I don't know why I don't like it

497
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: in WW, but I like it on Cloudio. But yeah, man,

498
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: I just think all of them are getting over and

499
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: finding ways to get over Wheeler Yuda, who gets forgotten

500
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: often even on this podcast, even by me about five

501
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: seconds ago. Even he's doing great with it. He's the

502
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: one that gets beat up all the time. He has

503
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: to take the sacrifice so everyone else looks good, and

504
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: he does a great job doing that. So I just

505
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: I really love it. I think they're crushing it. And

506
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: the stories in aw right Now are fun. Man Like

507
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: the Darby Allen story is fun. I like that he's

508
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: gonna wrestle every week. When's his body gonna break? How

509
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: long can he go every week? When's he gonna learn

510
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: that the MJF style is the best style. That's how

511
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: you preserve your body by not wrestling for the championship

512
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: every single week. You gotta make guys earn it and

513
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: go through fire and hell so when they get to you,

514
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: they're broken and beaten and you can keep your title

515
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: even longer. But a babyface champion doesn't do that. A

516
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: babyface champions like John Cena, and he wrestles every week

517
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: and he gives you what you need to have. These

518
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: are fun stories. Man the Edge and Christian Versus FTR

519
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: for their careers basically, not that they can't wrestle as

520
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: singles again, but they can't wrestle as a tag team.

521
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: If they lose, it's gonna be an I quit match

522
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: and they're like, are you gonna Renee Is like, hey,

523
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: are you guys gonna are you guys gonna quit? Christian's like,

524
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: fuck no, We're not gonna quit, and it's just like, bro,

525
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: you quit before. Christian's like, dude, what I keep calling him? Edge?

526
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: Sorry Adam, and Christian's like, shut the fuck up. Man.

527
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: It just takes off like they're even telling that story,

528
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: which is a B story. It's not an a story

529
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: like like will a spray or like the World Championship

530
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: is a sub story to that, and it's still fun

531
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: to watch, and you can tell Adams having a blast

532
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: in this final run of his career and where it's

533
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: going to end up. I actually think they're going to

534
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: lose that match when we get to when we get

535
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: to predicting for that pay per view, because I think

536
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: they're both getting close to retirement, or at least Adam is,

537
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: and so they'll retire the tag team first, and then

538
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: he'll go on a run and he'll get retired as

539
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: a singles eventually not retired, but you know, beating it'll

540
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: be his final match. I think that's how he's gonna

541
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: go out, which will be really cool. What about you,

542
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: due are what stories are you liking more right now?

543
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: WW stories are aew stories. I'm watching more WWE, so

544
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: it seems like that.

545
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 3: But I think aw's winning everything right now, which it

546
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: might be another reason why I'm not as venomous about

547
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: these layoffs which they do every year in WB or

548
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: I'm not as bothered by it because I just think

549
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: like it's gonna I just I just always go back to,

550
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: like some of the best stuff's happening outside of WWE,

551
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: And so I think that I think AW needs three

552
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: shows a week to get all the wrestling fans jaded

553
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: about it. Maybe if we had seventeen hours and twelve

554
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 3: of its commercials from AW that maybe maybe the wrestling

555
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: fans would be a little more critical of AW two.

556
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm just consuming Raw and SmackDown and

557
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: Saturday Night this and pay per view that, and so

558
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: it's like I'm just watching a lot more WWE.

559
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: But I think aw's product right now is next level

560
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: the best. I agree, dude, I think they're winning right now.

561
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: I mean, if there was only a way Freddy that

562
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: I could see Adam Opeland doing dollar General commercials, or

563
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: maybe if there was a way to get Christian Cage

564
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: to do thirty five, you know, cricket wireless commercials.

565
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: In between each thing.

566
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: Maybe if there's just a way I could get Darby

567
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: Allen to plug Lemonade with By the way, the lemonade

568
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: commercials are like get juiced. The fact that wrestling is

569
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: going to use an expression like juiced and refer to

570
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: like juicing is absurd to me. So TKO should maybe

571
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: not be releasing anybody and just capitalized on their little

572
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: commercial money because it's embarrassing.

573
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: That's where they should be getting their money from. The

574
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: wrestling commercials drive me crazy. They make the talent look

575
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: so bad, they make the talent look so corny, they

576
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: make the talent look so amateurish, and it's because the

577
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: writing is absolutely horrible, and it's a director that's never

578
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: worked with them before, so they don't have a relationship.

579
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: There's no trust, so they can't get anything out of them.

580
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 1: And they're not always hiring the right people to do

581
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: the commercials in the first place, Like it's not always

582
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: the best actors, the ones that can handle the different

583
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: kind of script or it can put their own spin

584
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: on it. That's still respected on both sides. Like the

585
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: commercials drive mean nuts so bad. My daughter comments on them,

586
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: my wife comments on them. When they come They're like,

587
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: what is this, Like it's it's so rough, dude. I'm

588
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up because I would have forgotten.

589
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: And there's La Night doing slim gym commercials, and it's

590
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: not like these are things we can just avoid. Sometimes

591
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: they have the commercials going on during the wrestling match.

592
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: It's commercial mania, dude, it's too much commercial It is

593
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: too much, man. It's seven commercials or eight commercials on

594
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: Netflix per break. Like that's insane, man, that's insane. Maybe

595
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: I came up in the old days where commercials were

596
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: just you know, here's ninety seconds. We'll see you in

597
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: ninety seconds. That's what the game show host would always say.

598
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: A minute and a half, you had time to pee

599
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: or grab a beer. Like nowadays, it's like I got

600
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: time to like read a chapter in a book, you

601
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I got help off homework and finished.

602
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: Seven ads are like only a few minutes apart from

603
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: each other.

604
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's crazy, all right. Friday Night SmackDown Baby

605
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: the Champ Cody Rhodes. He's addressed the crowd and he's

606
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: revealed that he's medically cleared and ready to return. So

607
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: what happens Jeff An interruption, of course, to let us

608
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: know that now that he's medically cleared, someone's ready. And

609
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: that's someone is someone that took one of the recent

610
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: releases spots. His name is Ricky Saints. Baby, we know

611
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: him from aew if you watched n XT, you only

612
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: know him by Ricky Saints. We know him by Ricky

613
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: What was it, Ricky Sparks, Starks Starks, Ricky Starks start.

614
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was Johnson. I'm questioning Ricky Starks. You're right,

615
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: Ricky Starks. Yeah, Ricky Stars. I said it with confidence,

616
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: and then I was like, wait a minute, was that wrong?

617
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: They left him off mainstream TV long enough I forgot

618
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: what his original name was. So their plan worked. So

619
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: Ricky Saints came out, he interrupted. He just branded himself.

620
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: He just brands himself the hottest, newest flyest free agent.

621
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: You can't just name yourself all those things. Other people

622
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: have to name you, like Becky Lynch would never do

623
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: that because Sports Illustrated talks about it, The New York

624
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: Times talks about it, the podcast talk about it, We

625
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: talk about it. Everybody talks about it. That's right. Nobody's

626
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: talking about you being the hottest, newest, fliest free agent.

627
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Ricky Saints, so calm down. So he comes out there

628
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: and he's going to change what this show is all about.

629
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: He's going to be the face of this show. Not

630
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: not not Cody, not Drew, certainly not. They keep fingem

631
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: over not Solo Soko. Even though he thinks he is,

632
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: nobody's listening. So Ricky's like, maybe they'll listen to me,

633
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: and Cody accepts this matter on the spot. These dudes

634
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: are bros in real life. They got real good chemistry

635
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: so they can give us a good match. And they

636
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: gave us a good match. But Cody beat his ass

637
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: and hit him with his finish and called it a night.

638
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Rickyse Saints loses on his debut, which happens often, so

639
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: don't worry people, it's not gonna happen a trick Williams. Though.

640
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it all right. We talked about my

641
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: favorite story in professional wrestling, Jeff and now it's time

642
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: to talk about the worst story in professional wrestling, Her

643
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: Boy the gingerbread Man. They have put two wrestlers, one

644
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: that I love, the other that my daughter completely adores

645
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: and I am quickly learning to love. And that's Trick

646
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: Williams and Sammy's ain in the worst storyline you could

647
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: possibly put them in, A fucking gingerbread Man. This has

648
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 1: not been dramatic, This has not been action packed, This

649
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: has not been funny, this has not been sad. This

650
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: has achieved zero emotion for me other than pure diss

651
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: for the segments in general. And they humiliate Sammy even

652
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: more by channeling his bitter hero inner persona. And he attacked.

653
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: He attacks the mannequin, and he took it pretty seriously.

654
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: He snapped a little I guess and he commits to

655
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: the beatdown of the mannequin. Trick Williams, how could you

656
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: beat up my mannequin? Braw? I'm a grown man. Do

657
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: you know how serious manniquins are to me? He comes

658
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: out to save the mannequin's life and he gets Sammy

659
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: out of there, and they cut backstage and Tricks cuts

660
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: an awesome segment. He's so good on the mic he

661
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: cuts a promo to Kathy Kelly, who's having to believe

662
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: this storyline too, by the way, and she's totally committed.

663
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: And then he gets word from the doctor from they're

664
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: in an emergency room inside the arena, Jeff, I mean, fortunately,

665
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: and this doctor's equipped to deal with a gingerbread man,

666
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: not just a regular man. And he's got two degrees.

667
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: And he comes out and he says, I'm sorry, Trick Williams,

668
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: but the gingerbread, the gingerbread man didn't make it. And

669
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: Trick Williams and he turts, it is so good. It's

670
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: so bad. It was good, actually, and he's like, what

671
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: and you see the hurt. This gingerbread man is gone.

672
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: Thank freaking god, it's gone. And then he looks to

673
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: Kathy Kelly and he's like, I can't even deal with this.

674
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I got backlash to think about. And

675
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: Kathy Kelly's left with selling the truth of this moment

676
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: and she actually did a good job. And then I

677
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: finally think the segment's over, Jeff. When I finally think

678
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: the story's over, I get a promo for just to

679
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: let me know, no, no, no, Freddy, it's not over

680
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: because next week it's the funeral of the gingerbread Man.

681
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: I wonder what chaos and madness could happen on the

682
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: go home to backlash Jeff it is. I would be

683
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: embarrassed if I had to be in it, you know

684
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: what I mean? So I can only imagine how they

685
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: feel having to do it. The trick gets to look good,

686
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: but Sammy's not getting to look good through any of this.

687
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: He beat up a stuffed animal, bro, that's what you

688
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: do when you're fucking six, And he.

689
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 3: Also had trouble ripping the mouth off. He was trying

690
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: to get the mouth off of it.

691
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: And all that I know it. All he got was

692
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: a button. Man. He held the button up and I

693
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: was like, it's a button. It's not like it was

694
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: like it was something like it was the World Championship.

695
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: I was like, My daughter was like, yo, what's he doing?

696
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: I was like, he's holding up the button? Like, what

697
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: do you mean was he doing?

698
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: If someone is watching this from w B, what exactly

699
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: do you want us to think about Sammy's ay, I

700
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 3: don't know is he supposed to be the.

701
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: Good guy or the bad guy?

702
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: Because they literally like he if he's going to be

703
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: a good guy, then he wouldn't be so thin skinned

704
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: about them bringing like a mascot out there.

705
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: So he's got to be a bad guy. He's got

706
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: to be because he keeps asking the crowd.

707
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know what I did to you,

708
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: and I think that the Sammy's Ain fans around the

709
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: world are excited to see what I've gotten next, and.

710
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: That's a super Babyface. Yeah, you're right, You're right. I

711
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: don't know what they were trying to get us. Like,

712
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: the fans clearly love Trick Williams, but that doesn't mean

713
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: that they won't root.

714
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: For Sammy if Sammy's the good guy in the story.

715
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: But Sammy is so back and forth, wishy washy on

716
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: like what we want, what they want him to be,

717
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: that everyone just feels like, maybe forget Sammy's Ain, what

718
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: is root for Trick Williams. So I don't know what

719
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: the heck they're trying to pull off. But a Babyface

720
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't lose his mind and start beating up a mannequin

721
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: so that no one else can dress up like him.

722
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: That's right, buddy, Sometimes you got a Tara mannequin apart.

723
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: I'm excited for the funeral, though I've taken some time

724
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: off and I'm gonna.

725
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, USO's got beat up Talatanga, the huge guy,

726
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: the super tall guy, Tala because he's super tall. That's

727
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: all right, one of the only guys left I know, man,

728
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: everybody else j C.

729
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: Matteo slash Jeff Cobb. And then the other Tonga guy

730
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: is gone. So very strange to release those guys and

731
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: then bring Tonga back from his injury.

732
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: All right, Monday and Ira Seth Rollins makes his entrance.

733
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: He's ready to talk to the people, but he's ambushed

734
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: by Bron Breaker, who runs out there and starts whipping

735
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: some ass and he beats He beats that sass down,

736
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: but not enough, not enough. And while the vision a

737
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: backstage talking and looking super buff by the way, Bron

738
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: comes in there and he's looking super buff too, not

739
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: as cut as Logan, but super buff. And Paul Hayman

740
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: comes in and is like, what the fuck are we

741
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: celebrating for? What are we talking about here? Seth Rowlins

742
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: is still breathing, right, Bron's like, yeah, he's still breathing.

743
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, so we're we're just fucking around, We're

744
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: playing games and professional wrestling now or are we you know,

745
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: what are we doing? And they're all like, oh shit, yeah,

746
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: we better, we better get here, we better get serious.

747
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: So when now we kind of re establish who the

748
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: boss is, we see Seth talking to the street profits

749
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: because the street profits are like, Seth, what the hell? Man, Like,

750
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: what's going on? He's like, yo, man, you got me

751
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: speared by by Braun trying to come out there and

752
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: show off and jump over my head onto three people.

753
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Super sick by the way, So I was on the

754
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: I was on Montese Ford's side on this argument just

755
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: because his move was cooler than Seth's move. And he's like, look,

756
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: we are the friend of my enemy is my enemy

757
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: or whatever the saying is. He's like, we gotta be bros.

758
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: And they're like, a, I final, We'll be bros. He

759
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: takes off, we get soul. Ruka.

760
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: No, But I want to talk about that for a

761
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: little bit for a second, talk about a bit.

762
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.

763
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: It was a little clunky that Paul Hayman Austin theory

764
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: logan Paul Braun breaker backstage segment. You had him trying

765
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: to talk trap back. He sounds like a duck and

766
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: then them laughing about it.

767
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: It was very strange.

768
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: And then Paul Hayman comes in and starts to communicate, Hey,

769
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 3: I'm having a rough few months. You know, I lost

770
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: my I brought last roots. You know, you guys are

771
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: goofing off. Seth Rawlins is still breathing. He's basically trying

772
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: to set up like, hey, I got a weird thing going.

773
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: And then Logan Paul comes out of nowhere. I think

774
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: he interrupted him or jumped on Paul's lines or something,

775
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: But that was that whole backstage segment was strange. I

776
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 3: also think that we're witnessing somewhat of an identity crisis

777
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: from seth Rawlins, Like we knew exactly who he was

778
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: with the Vision, like with the outfits, and I'm the

779
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: leader and I'm like this cult guy. He was almost

780
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: like Charlie Manson meets like a badass pro wrestler, but

781
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: now without the Vision and him against the Vision, and

782
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: then no one else really trusting him in the thing,

783
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: like he's kind of lost his power in a way,

784
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: like I don't really see him as some sort of

785
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: like crazy threat anymore. And so when montes Ford's like, dude,

786
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: nobody trusts you. You know, you started this and you

787
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: did this, and like whatever. Seth did a good job

788
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: of like bringing that to being like, hey, it's wrestling. Listen,

789
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: sometimes we fight and then we're gonna have to come

790
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: together for certain fights. I like that that Seth like

791
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: kind of summarized that for him, basically saying, like that's

792
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: how wrestling works.

793
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Dummy.

794
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: But I think Seth Rollins is having like this strange

795
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: moment where I don't know if he's he might have

796
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 3: peaked with that like vision cult leader stuff. I don't

797
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: know what he's gonna have to reinvent himself, I think

798
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 3: for sure. And nothing felt more obvious than that than

799
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: the opening of Raw.

800
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: To me, that's a better take than mine. I'm just

801
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,479
Speaker 1: that's what I've thought.

802
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: Also, did you notice I think bron Breaker was having

803
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: a mini heart.

804
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Attack last night? What do you mean did you see that? No?

805
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: What do you mean? He kept holding his like nice

806
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: selling the clothesline. He's selling the clothes line from from

807
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: Rollins where he got nailed.

808
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: It felt like because he kept like doing that like that,

809
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: he was getting so psyched up or like jacked up,

810
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: like you know when you as hard as you can.

811
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: You like all jacked, Like I think fifty a stroke, huh,

812
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm fifty. If I do that, I will have a

813
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: heart attack.

814
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: Oh me too, or an aneurysm, or I'll pop a

815
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: nerve ending or a hernia or whatever the heck he had. Yeah,

816
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I felt like I watched it

817
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: like three times. I kept rewinding and then hitting play,

818
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 3: and I'm.

819
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: Like, I think he's actually like.

820
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: Or if he's just selling, then he did a good

821
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: job and he commenced.

822
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 1: He's good, dude, He's just that good. Becky Lynch saved

823
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: another segment because she's Becky Lynch. Sol Ruka made her debut.

824
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Becky made her look as good as she could make her.

825
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: But Becky does that for everybody she works with. I

826
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: don't know why she doesn't get more credit for putting

827
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: people over and for reacting to moments the way you

828
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: should react to help the other person get over as

829
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: much as possible. But she does it as well as

830
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: anybody's ever done it, and she does it often. So

831
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: she did it again with soul Ruka, and we'll see

832
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: what's soot in the Intercontinental Championship matches coming up soon.

833
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: And we could nail that the finishing move or was not.

834
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: She I was gonna try to skip it, yeah, because

835
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: she kind of watched it. I was gonna I didn't

836
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: know if it was or not because I didn't. Yeah,

837
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: she messed it up, but Becky still got in good

838
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: position and she saved it at the end. But it

839
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: was a shame. I was bummed out when I saw

840
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: the stumble there. I was like, Oh, no, that's the

841
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: worst thing, you know, because it's opening. Yeah, Man, I

842
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: felt bad. I felt bad for her, but she'd get

843
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: over man. She's she's got a good move set. She's

844
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: really cool. She can talk a little bit on the mic.

845
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: She was talking some ship to Becky. It sounded good. Yeah.

846
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: I thought she did a good job. She's pretty, so

847
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: she you know, she she's gonna have a good chance

848
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: and the crowd's gonna give her some latitude because she

849
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: can actually work. They're not gonna, you know, be like

850
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: you can't Russell. They're not gonna give her that kind

851
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: of hate. Obafemi had his open challenge. Til Zawa came

852
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: out of Kiro Tazawa from Old School two five Live

853
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: Days back when the WW had their own network, and

854
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: and he was awesome in that tournament, by the way,

855
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: and on that show, the Cruiserweight Classic, I think it

856
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: was called. He goes out there to face Oba Femi

857
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: and then thinks twice because there's weight classes for a reason,

858
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: my friends, there are weight classes for a reason. But Otis,

859
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: who I follow on Instagram, Yes, I M posting a

860
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: lot lately. He used to post barbecue all the time

861
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: and always looked so good, or pictures of his dog,

862
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: which was a cute dog too. He's like, I'll accept

863
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: the challenge Oba Femi, and he goes in there and

864
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: we got a meat match, baby, but nobody chanted meat.

865
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: There was one billboard that had a meat match up

866
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: there and one guy, white guy in a yellow shirt

867
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: who was trying to do the Obafemi strut in the background.

868
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: He had no rhythm and instead of watching Oba, his

869
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: rhythm was so bad. I was why it looked just

870
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: like that, Jeff. It was awesome. So shout out to

871
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: the guy in a yellow shirt with the red letters

872
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: that was blurry. I love that you can't dance. That

873
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: was awesome. But anyway, he beat he beat Otis's ass.

874
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: He picked him up too, dude, like high and launched him.

875
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: He looked so yeah, you know, ros some would say

876
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 3: this is Otis getting squashed, but I would say it's

877
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: Otis putting Obafemi over. I mean, Otis has been in

878
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 3: the you know, been around for a while now, and

879
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: good on him to like get let oba Femi, you know,

880
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 3: lift him up and slam him down.

881
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: And it was very good. Yeah.

882
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 3: I didn't really think the opening of Tazawa coming out

883
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: and being like I don't want to do but I

884
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 3: liked that they took the chance, they took a swing.

885
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: It was.

886
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: And I like that, so I'll give him credit for that.

887
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: But you know, the Otis part was cool.

888
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I agree. The main event was not

889
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: a main event, Jeff. They didn't have a main event

890
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: because they liked to talk at WWE and they like

891
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: to show off that they're good actors, and so we

892
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: had a main event. Contract signing gone wrong because we

893
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: had Roman reigns. And by the way, just to set

894
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: up on this was awful, Like why was the table

895
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: lengthwise and why was one sitting at the head of

896
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: it and one sitting on the side instead of having

897
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: guys on opposite sides of each other. The way every

898
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: face office happened in every combat sport in the history

899
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: of combat sports. This was not taking a swing. This

900
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: was just a mistake. And later Jacob couldn't even put

901
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: him through the table because the table's not in the

902
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: right spot because it was lengthwise instead of sideway, so

903
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: he couldn't break the table when he put him through it.

904
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: It was just an epicpic fell over. Yeah, it just

905
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: fell over. So as far as that goes, it was

906
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: a fail. However, I thought the talent within the segment

907
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: saved it. As far as Roman Reigns promo and Jacob

908
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: Fatu's response or retort, they both stayed within their construct,

909
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: within their character construct. Neither really broke out of that.

910
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: And Jacob Fatu kind of explained himself and it comes

911
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: off heelish but with reason right, like it's like I'm

912
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: doing this for the money. And then but he kind

913
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: of gave the reason, and the reason I thought it

914
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: was kind of dope is he dipped into some realistic

915
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: shit and he said, I want everything. I'm mnna squeeze

916
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: everything I can out of this business, the way this

917
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: business squeezed everything it could out of my family. And

918
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: I was like, that makes sense like, now I get it.

919
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: This is a revenge thing, and he's gonna if he's

920
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: gonna get used, then I'm gonna use you first. And

921
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get everything I can get out of this business,

922
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: out of this company. And when you want to get

923
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: rid of me, I don't care. I'll already be out.

924
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: And so you got his philosophy for the first time,

925
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: we get Roman's philosophy. Roman's just the fucking man. And

926
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: he's like, dude, you're so shortsighted, you're so selfish, Like

927
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: you're taking care of one family. I'm taking care of

928
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: four hundred and one families. You're feeding one kid, seven kids,

929
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm feeding seventy seven kids. You want your kids to

930
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: go to a good school. I want all of our

931
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: kids to go to a good school, you dumb ass.

932
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: And so he's the ultimate babyface in this and the

933
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: crowd loves him. And then he's like talking about you're

934
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna put that disrespectful ass tongue in death grip on me, bro,

935
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: we save that for bar fights against assholes that get drunk,

936
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: and you're gonna do that to family, And Fatuo's like, yo, man,

937
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: I'm desperate. I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get

938
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: what I want to get because that's what I need.

939
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: I have to have it. You don't. You didn't live

940
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: the life I did. You didn't lose the years I lost,

941
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,479
Speaker 1: but you didn't make the stupid ass choices I made.

942
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: And I'm a here for I don't know how long,

943
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: and tomorrow is I'm promised, so I'm getting mine and

944
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm getting out and I love the segment. It turns physical.

945
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: They beat each other's ass. A Fatu keeps going for

946
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: the tongue in death grip, Roman keeps punching and beating

947
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: his ass, and eventually a Fatu gets him up and

948
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: smashes him into the table, not through the table, which sucked,

949
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: But what are you gonna do? And then now we're

950
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: left with the backlash match and who's gonna win, who's

951
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna lose. There's a lot of rumors, Jeff, that they've

952
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: taken Roman. These aren't rumors, but they've taken Roman off

953
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: of tons of raws and split his schedule in half,

954
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: which is making people think that they cutting his salary

955
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: as well, and that he's pissed off and he's gonna

956
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: actually drop the title to Jacob at backlash. That's the

957
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: rumors going around on the internet. I saw that while

958
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: I was scrolling Instagram today. But what did you think

959
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: of the segment and where do you think it's gonna go?

960
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: I think that this story is compelling as far as

961
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: like I you know, I'm in I'm watching, I'm enjoying it.

962
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: But I think there's a lot of questions, a lot

963
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: of weird stuff. I don't know why all of a sudden,

964
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: Jacob fought to his upset and his character's ungrateful, and

965
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: now his character seems to have some vendetta against wrestling,

966
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 3: and like he seems desperate to feed his family.

967
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't really believe it. I don't

968
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: buy it.

969
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: I also don't really buy Roman reigns as the sweetheart

970
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: who wants to feed four hundred families and all these

971
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: things with the way he acts.

972
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: So it's like I liked.

973
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: The speech that like, hey, I'm trying to take care

974
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: of generations. I'm trying to like like you were just saying.

975
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: But I don't know if I buy it. It doesn't

976
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 3: seem like that, like he's always like he just seems

977
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: angry all the time. You're like, what are you so

978
00:48:55,040 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: pissed off about? Also, let's talk about this move. Yeah,

979
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: the tongue and death. What did it just come out

980
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: of nowhere?

981
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: No, that's old school. It's been around. It's old school. Yeah,

982
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: it's been around. They've referenced this move before, not within

983
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: our lifetimes, but this was like an old move from

984
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: like the Wild Samoans and shit like that, like back

985
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: before we were even watching wrestling.

986
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 3: Okay, then I will succede on that point. My next

987
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 3: thing is why does Roman Reigns get to call himself

988
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: the OTC. If he comes from this long lineage of wrestlers,

989
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 3: he would be the current tribal chief, but not the original.

990
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: You can't just be you're not the original tribal chief.

991
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: If we know you come from this lineage, then why

992
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 3: are you saying you're the original tribal chief. Furthermore, why

993
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 3: did anybody at WWE let Roman Reigns use the term

994
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: nepotism when he goes I can't let you just get

995
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: a title match against me, that's nepotism. I'm like, Roman,

996
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 3: you are an idiot for using that term in your promo.

997
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: Because wrestling is a long line of welcomed nepotism. You've

998
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: got you know, Charlie Flair, Rick Flair, you got bron

999
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: Breaker and Rick Steiner. You have the whole heart family,

1000
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: you have the whole bloodline.

1001
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: You have you. There couldn't be a more business built

1002
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: on nepotism, which I don't see is a bad thing.

1003
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome to get to see the sons

1004
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: and the nieces and the cousins and the OOS's and

1005
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: the whatevers. I like, what kind of dummy would throw

1006
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: that word around, Like, I'm not just gonna give you

1007
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: a match. That's nepotism.

1008
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, you're a dip shit for bringing that

1009
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: into the storyline even for a second. So I just

1010
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: have a lot of questions about what the heck they're

1011
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: thinking over there.

1012
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, that's today's show. Stay tuned for

1013
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: more because tomorrow we have backlash predictions. We're gonna make

1014
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: you some money. The money's flowing. My palms are itching.

1015
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: They say, if your palm's itch, money's coming your way.

1016
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: Oh so maybe that just means I'm gonna make money. Well,

1017
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: maybe I'll bet and you should follow what I bet,

1018
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: and then we'll all make money. Together on behalf of

1019
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: our producer Alex On behalf of my co host jeff I.

1020
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm Freddy. Thanks for listening. Oh yeah,