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Speaker 1: Cowboys. This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman. What is up?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. I am Nick Eatman Here. It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: February the thirteenth, and it is officially off season for everybody. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's been off season for some teams sooner than others.

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Speaker 1: We know that, but now everyone's in the same boat.

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Speaker 1: Every football game is over in the NFL. I guess

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Speaker 1: there's other leagues that will be playing and nobody will

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Speaker 1: get excited about that sort of But for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: the off season has been been among us for a while.

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Speaker 1: But we've got some new changes obviously with them, and

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be more to come. Mike Zimmer officially, I

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Speaker 1: say officially, I still think I don't know if they've

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Speaker 1: signed the contract yet, but it's officially agreed to terms.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be the defensive coordinator and now we'll

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Speaker 1: see where the dominoes fall on the rest of the staff.

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Speaker 1: What happens there, what happens with other position coaches, some

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Speaker 1: that are still under contract. Does you know, do the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys want to keep them. Does that somebody that fits

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Speaker 1: into what Zimmer's trying to do. Uh, you know, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: there'll be some There'll be some moving parts for sure

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Speaker 1: going on there. So eight eight eight eight five five

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Speaker 1: line open right now, so you know, we're still kind

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Speaker 1: of getting into off season mode. So please join us.

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Speaker 1: We got one caller on the line. He's he's called

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Speaker 1: a few times, Brian in Kansas City. Brian, are you

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Speaker 1: going to the parade?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think they would want me to wear

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Speaker 4: Miami Smith jersey down there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if they'll care

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Speaker 1: who's down there. At that point when you have a parade,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. Thanks for coming out. What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Not too much, man, I saw what looked like we

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Speaker 4: lost maybe our third defensive. Is that the third loss

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Speaker 4: was Durden a thurd and the third guy we lost

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Speaker 4: this year, So we lost Quinn and so is that

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Speaker 4: it is that all we lost so far?

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Speaker 1: So far? But okay, but stay tuned. I mean there'll

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Speaker 1: be some. I mean that's just natural. Man, It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Zimmer's not gonna come here and be like, yep,

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Speaker 1: I like them all, Like all these guys are good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he'll have he'll make some changes. You know.

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Speaker 4: That was gonna be my question for you. So I'm

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Speaker 4: glad you brought that up. I was just curious, you know,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, based on what you saw the last time

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Speaker 4: he was here, you know, what you thought he might

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Speaker 4: bring to the table, and and hopefully in the upcoming

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Speaker 4: you know, month or so, somebody will do like a

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Speaker 4: I forget what they call that show, hit sticks. I

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Speaker 4: think they call it hits when they do a show

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Speaker 4: that kind of explains scheme because you know, for somebody

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Speaker 4: like me, you know, I always say I'm the Joe

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Speaker 4: and Flower Mound guy that brought us is always talking

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Speaker 4: about right. I can recognize some defenses, I don't recognize

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Speaker 4: all this new you know, some of the most exotic stuff.

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Speaker 4: So I'd love for somebody to say, Okay, here's what

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Speaker 4: we were running last year, here's what we're running. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: well what we think you know, obviously we don't know,

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Speaker 4: but what we think is coming right, you know, based

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Speaker 4: on what he's done in the past and that so anyway,

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Speaker 4: I don't really have another question because you kind of

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Speaker 4: already hit on it. But I do have a player

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Speaker 4: for you, right was here the year you got here.

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Speaker 4: Only played for two years for the Cowboys. Billy wide receiver,

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Speaker 4: Billy Davis.

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Speaker 1: That's so funny that you say this. This is this

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Speaker 1: is funny, Brian, that you say this because Billy Davis.

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Speaker 1: I just typed this out. I counted fifteen players, fifteen

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Speaker 1: players that I saw at the Super Bowl. I was

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Speaker 1: only there for really for one day on radio Row.

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Speaker 1: I saw fifteen former players and I'm like typing it out,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I think I might read this list.

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Speaker 1: don't worry about that. But Billy Davis was one of them.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I wonder how many people really remember

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Speaker 1: Billy Davis. But that's funny because he was he was

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Speaker 1: on he was on my list, and I thought, you

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Speaker 1: know what, Brian, Kansas City, he probably would know him.

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Speaker 1: And then here you are asking me about him.

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Speaker 4: So that's funny. Now. Yeah, I was trying to pick

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Speaker 4: out a guy that was a little more Stuart because

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Speaker 4: he was not here for a long time. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: got a story about him that you can remember, that'd

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Speaker 4: be great. I'm going to hang up to other people

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Brian, I appreciate it. The only

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Speaker 1: story I really remember to Billy Davis. Actually, I think

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Speaker 1: he ended playing for the cow was in ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: so I technically started in ninety nine. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I was here covering the team. I was doing little

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Speaker 1: and I do remember an interview where he was like,

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Speaker 1: then I would have the contract or some something like that.

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Speaker 1: And they said, well, if you catch fifteen hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: you know what does that mean? He goes, well, it

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Speaker 1: means I'm gonna be in Hawaii. That's what it means,

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Speaker 1: you know. And the way the way, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: the way he said it was just kind of funny

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Speaker 1: to Zimmer, you know, if you've ever met him, he's intense. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's just that's what he is. He coaches that way.

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Speaker 1: He that's the way. That's why his life is. That's

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Speaker 1: why he calls games. It is very physical. Your hat.

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Speaker 1: You have to be tough, you have to have a

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Speaker 1: He plays more for three, but he has played the

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Speaker 1: three four before when he was here with Parcels. Parceles

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Speaker 1: Not every team can go for three to three four

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Speaker 1: because you don't always have the pieces. Belichick was able

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Speaker 1: he'll be a very physical I mean he'll need physical

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Speaker 1: go to a text line question here. This is Josh.

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Speaker 1: He's a fourth grade teacher. He says, what does San

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Speaker 1: Francisco and the Chiefs have the Cowboys don't. My opinion

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Speaker 1: is grit. How do they get that? Well, you get

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Speaker 1: a guy like Mike Zimmer to be your defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: because he's got that for sure. Maybe you can help

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Speaker 1: if Kansas City has the best football team in the league.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they do. They absolutely have the best

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Speaker 1: football player. He's the MVP of the league. They just

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Speaker 1: kind of like to pass this around to different players.

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Speaker 1: But it's just like it was in the nineties when

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Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan he's the best player. They want to

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Speaker 1: give it to Barkley and give it to Carl Malone.

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Speaker 1: it's the same here. He's the best football player without

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Speaker 1: He's in Concord, California. How do you think Zimmer will

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Speaker 1: the key. If you're going to move him around, other

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: How you doing this?

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Speaker 5: I've been licking my wounds longer than usual because I

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Speaker 5: had the bright idea to go on X or Twitter

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Speaker 5: and tweet that I thought the Cowboys are going to

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Speaker 5: make the Nuituy championship, and you know, you know what happened.

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Speaker 5: You know, good, good old, good old fashioned clunker on

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Speaker 5: both sides of the ball, right, and you know what

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Speaker 5: you know I said earlier in the year, I thought

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Speaker 5: McCarthy was little bit outdated. He got better throughout the year,

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Speaker 5: but I think one thing he needs and Dak needs,

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Speaker 5: we we have to manufacture are a very good run game.

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we can talk about what we need on defense,

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Speaker 5: we can talk about changing coordinators, we could talk about

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Speaker 5: replacing Tyring and add another receiver. At the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, if you can run the ball that travels,

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Speaker 5: that does well for you in cold weather in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: it takes pressure off of everybody. I don't know what

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Speaker 5: the answer is there. I don't know what this draft has,

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Speaker 5: but man, we just need a hammerhead running back. I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying that Marco Murray twenty fourteen. Would that be perfect,

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 1: Man, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing it?

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Speaker 7: How about yourself?

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Speaker 3: It's funny. When I hadn't heard it begin the show,

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Speaker 3: Everything you say, everything is going to be construed differently

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Speaker 2: Maybe he'll get in.

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Speaker 7: Next next year.

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Speaker 3: But man, I just can't I just can't believe. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard the players Lounds yesterday,

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Speaker 6: Did you hear that?

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Speaker 4: No, I new he said.

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Speaker 3: What he was told is that they think somebody told

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Speaker 3: him they think Woodson is going to get in, but

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Speaker 3: God's got three ring.

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Speaker 1: Then he won't get in. He won't.

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Speaker 8: He ain't gonna get able to do it. That's not

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Speaker 1: I don't know what what what knew he was talking

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Speaker 3: Well, it just it just kind of goes to show

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Speaker 9: The Hall of Fame is political.

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Speaker 3: And I think Nui also said that that somebody said

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And and I don't you know, I have to.

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Speaker 7: Go back and look at it.

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Speaker 3: But uh, I think there's a lot more Steelers from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, Jeff, anyway, appreciate it. Thanks, thanks

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Speaker 7: No, I just did you?

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Speaker 3: Did you stay for the game at the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Was born most of the game was kind of born,

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Speaker 1: Definitely thanks for call. Thank you. You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Sadly I did not see Aaron Woodson. I talked to

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to see actually see him there. But

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Speaker 1: I'll go over that here in a little bit. All right,

435
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: let's go real quick here, let's go a text message

436
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: from Mike from Boston. Mike, we need you to call man.

437
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 1: We don't have anybody that's ever called from Massachusetts, not

438
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 1: one call ever from Massachusetts. So Mike, thanks for the text,

439
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: but tell your buddies or somebody to call. But his

440
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: question is how crazy you think Rex Ryan's comments were

441
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: when he latantly said he would not count on Mike

442
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 1: Zimmer being hired. He went on to elaborate that he

443
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: reached out to McCarthy and the Joneses during UH, saying

444
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: that he wanted to join them and get them over

445
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl hump. Yeah, kind of weird. It makes

446
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: more sense now because he's always been huge cowboy hater

447
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: like you just you can see it on the shows.

448
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 1: He's on the ESPN countdown or whatever. You can see

449
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: all that, and Uh, it shifted. You could tell it

450
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: shifted during the playoffs. I remember listening to it I

451
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: don't try to listen to him that much, but listened

452
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: to it, and I just thought, this is kind of odd.

453
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: You know, he's always the first one. He he. I

454
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna cry about the Lions game, you know,

455
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: when when with the officials and reporting and eligible and

456
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: all that. I mean, he he, I didn't think he

457
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: was gonna be able to make it through the show

458
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: and so you know, but now, but then he kind

459
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 1: of shifted as talented team they could win and all that.

460
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: So now you knew what was going on. He was

461
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: trying to campaign for it. But you know, I mean,

462
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: the Zimmer thing took a little bit of time. I

463
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: think there was obviously some contract involved of a contract,

464
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, issues there. But also, I mean there's a

465
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Speaker 1: window between Friday and Sunday night and Monday that the

466
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: NFL really doesn't want anybody breaking any kind of news

467
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: or announcing anything. So even though you know, they looks

468
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Speaker 1: like they had it kind of done Thursday hashing some

469
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: things out, but then by you know, by Monday, now

470
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's agreed to terms. I think

471
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: it was probably agreed over the weekend. They just didn't

472
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: want to announce some things because I'll say this, it

473
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: looks like there's already some new coaches in the building.

474
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: So there's been some conversations like I think this, this

475
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: was gonna this has been in the works, all right,

476
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Speaker 1: Rob in Vegas? What's up? I didn't see you, man.

477
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 6: No, I know there was no way you could get in.

478
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 6: I you know, I looked into it, but they don't

479
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 6: accept the public where you guys were, so it'd be like,

480
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 6: no way.

481
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was tough. I mean well, I mean,

482
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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I like you have to walk through

483
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: like casinos and stuff like that. So you know, Vegas

484
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: isn't very fun if you're not being able to gamble

485
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: and do all that kind of stuff. You know, you're just.

486
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're going to a casino or even you

487
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 6: know down on the strip, if you're not into gambling

488
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 6: or eating. They got great restaurants.

489
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Speaker 1: I was surprised at how many things closed at eleven.

490
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on here? I thought, this

491
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: place never steeps, So maybe not going to the right places.

492
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're not going to the right place, or maybe

493
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 6: I am.

494
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I am going to the right places. The ones

495
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: that close at eleven.

496
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Speaker 6: True but how'd you like Vegas? Did you do anything good?

497
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: Not really, I wasn't there that that long, you know,

498
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: and so I was just there for like two nights.

499
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: It was fine. It was fine, but you know, the

500
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: Zimmer News, you know, like the focus was was covering

501
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: NFL Honors and then then all of a sudden it

502
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: shifted to Zimmer and trying to track that story down,

503
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: which worked out because they didn't win win anything in

504
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: the NFL Honors, so and Woodson didn't didn't get you know,

505
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: didn't get out of Hall of Fame. So you know,

506
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: it was just kind of a it was kind of

507
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: a wow.

508
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Speaker 6: I mean, I thought the game itself was I thought

509
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 6: it was boring in the beginning. Obviously what quarter and listen,

510
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 6: I thought the coach of the forty nine ers blew it.

511
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, put the ball in party's hand a

512
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 6: little too much. I think they should have ran the

513
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 6: ball more. And then why you would take the ball

514
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 6: and over time and then it doesn't matter what you do.

515
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 6: But once you kick that field goal, you knew. Patrick

516
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 6: Mahomes said to himself, Wait a minute, all I need

517
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 6: is a field goal, and you're giving me four downs

518
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 6: every time every time this is done, this is done.

519
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 6: And I thought, and then, could you imagine if this

520
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 6: was Mike McCarthy after the game and the player said,

521
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 6: oh yeah, we didn't even know the rules. Could they

522
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 6: would cified the Cowboys?

523
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yep. And I have some thoughts on that.

524
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: I have some thoughts on this whole thing about really

525
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: who's to blame? But but yeah, I mean I thought

526
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Speaker 1: that the whole thing was crazy. I mean it was,

527
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: it was, yeah, But I just, yeah, you give mahomes

528
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: a chance like that. I mean it's basically like in baseball.

529
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: Really when you think about it, I mean it's like,

530
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: all right, we're at the bottom of the ninth. I mean,

531
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Speaker 1: we wanted bad last, so we can kind of know

532
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Speaker 1: what we need to do. Sure, you know, that's kind

533
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Speaker 1: of what it is.

534
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Speaker 4: You know.

535
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Speaker 6: I'm hearing people now, some people on the Big Cowboys

536
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 6: shows talk about zim Er how they don't know if

537
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 6: he could relate to today's player, And I'm like, who cares? Yeah,

538
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 6: I mean, he's your boss. He's your boss. You don't

539
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 6: have to like him. And I got to be honest.

540
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 6: Once I heard Michael Parsons refer to Dan Quinn as

541
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 6: like an uncle. I said, no time to go. Now

542
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 6: you see why this team led the league and penalties,

543
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 6: why you would see they would make some bonehead plays.

544
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 6: And now I'm glad I called last week. I said

545
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 6: I wanted Zimmers just for the tough factor. I would

546
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 6: love to see him bulke up Michaeh. Parsons and make

547
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 6: them a full time I mean defensive end.

548
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, when you think about that, I've never really

549
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: heard that many people referred to that as like he's

550
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: like an uncle, because I mean, doesn't that kind of

551
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: tell you a little bit what's going on. I mean,

552
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: uncles tells you, hey, you know, calm down or you know,

553
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: you keep it down, baby sleeping or whatever. But they

554
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: don't whip your ass. I mean, you know, as your uncle.

555
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 6: You know, nobody nobody referred to Bill Parcells, well, Bill

556
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 6: Belichick as uncles.

557
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: No, no, you know.

558
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 6: And and I listen, I like Micah, it bothered me.

559
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 6: He said he had Jordan Love on the show. Jordan

560
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 6: Love is basically sitting across from Mike and basically telling

561
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 6: Micah to his face, dude, we destroyed you because we

562
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 6: knew you were a week against the run. And I'm

563
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 6: like what is going on here? But that's today. I mean,

564
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 6: I did it. As much as I liked Mike on

565
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 6: the field, it's like, I think he'd rather be a

566
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 6: sports commentator at a football player some time.

567
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will, unless unless his teammate just won

568
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: an award, you know, at the honors at least goes

569
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: up there and doesn't say anything that I thought that

570
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: was ironical, Like, this is a guy that has been

571
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: talking all week at Vegas, right, he talked a lot,

572
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: and then they went the next gen stats moment of

573
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: the year. I mean, I know that CD I guess

574
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: wasn't there to get it, but he could say something,

575
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: so I just thought that was kind of weird. It's

576
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: like the guy doesn't say anything when you want him to,

577
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: and then when you don't.

578
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 6: City lamb did I. I did like what he said.

579
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 6: He said, I need to grow up and I need

580
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 6: to take more control. And I thought, that's that's what

581
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 6: the one of the best players in the league and

582
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 6: especially on the team, should say. And I thought that

583
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 6: was great. I liked how he talked about his mom

584
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 6: comment real quick didn't really get it, but said, hey, Lis'ten,

585
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 6: that's that's my mom and I get that. Yeah, but uh,

586
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 6: I just think Micah needs a kick in the butt.

587
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 6: Let's be honest, and if if anybody's going to do

588
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 6: it's gonna be Zim. He'll bring out the best yeah

589
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 6: in my in Michael. But I would love to see

590
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 6: him put on twenty pounds. I don't want him being

591
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 6: a linebacker. He doesn't want it. Get some good linebackers

592
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 6: in free agency and put him up and down the

593
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 6: line at about two sixty five and hopefully he doesn't

594
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 6: wear out where he's only good giving us one sack

595
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 6: in December.

596
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got to realize that it's okay not

597
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: to beat Tyreek Hill in a race. You know, it's okay.

598
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: It's okay that you're not doing that. Yeah, which I

599
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: think we all know if we saw the race, he

600
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: didn't really beat Tyre.

601
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Speaker 6: I mean, he's a phenom and yeah, I know he's

602
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 6: fast and that's great, but you know, you're not fast

603
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 6: enough to make up for three hundred pound guys smashing

604
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 6: on you.

605
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: All right, Rob, thanks for the call, man, good stuff,

606
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 1: You got it all right. You know we have an

607
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: article should be on the website now or soon about

608
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: I did talk to Darren Woodson about Mike Zimmer, and

609
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: he one thing that he said, this is the headline

610
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: of the article, is that he's not going to be

611
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: their friend. He's not. That's not what he's there to do.

612
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: And he tells the story. You know, I've told the

613
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: story that he said in here about how he just basically,

614
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: you know, said, right, here's all your bad place from

615
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: last year. You kind of you know, humbles these guys.

616
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: That's what they need to hear so they can be elite.

617
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: You know, he wants the great ones to be elite.

618
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: He wants the good ones to be great. He wants

619
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Speaker 1: the ones that are very good to be good. I mean,

620
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: whatever that next level is for you. And and you

621
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: know he's probably never seen the perfect person, the perfect player.

622
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: So that means I mean he did coach Deon. You know,

623
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: I bet he was pretty critical on Dion. Dion loves him,

624
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he absolutely loves Zimmer. So and that's one story.

625
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: I do remember one time, I remember sitting on a

626
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: bus after the Cowboys played the Giants in the meadow Lands.

627
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: It was nineteen ninety nine and Zimmer was the defensive

628
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: backs coach. Campo was the coordinator and and Gaily was

629
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: the head coach, and there was a lot of talk

630
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: that Campo was going to get a head coaching job.

631
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: And I remember they had lost to the Giants, and

632
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Dion was on the bus. He was on saying I

633
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: was probably on the wrong bus because Deon walks right

634
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: by and he says to Campo, don't take Zim with you,

635
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: Camps when you get a job. Come to find out,

636
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: Gaily is the one that got fired. Campo got promoted

637
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But there's how much respect that

638
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: he had for him. Let me go back to the

639
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: play of the forty nine ers on Shanahan not taking

640
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: the ball. I thought of it immediately. But I'll say this,

641
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: and I've said it before, this is not just because

642
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. I think it's ridiculous that we

643
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: have different rules for the Super Bowl or even for

644
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You shouldn't get to the ultimate game and

645
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: not know what the rule is. What is the rule

646
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: in this like, it makes no sense to me. These

647
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: games all matter? Okay, how many games? I mean that

648
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: just showing Jason Garrett up here, he gets talked about.

649
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: He think his playoff record never gets mentioned. It's the

650
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: elimination games that get mentioned because he lost some elimination

651
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: games which aren't playoff games, but we'll just call him

652
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: elimination games. That's a good way to kind of bash

653
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: on his record. Even more, well, that means those games matter.

654
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: There's regular season games that matter. This is it. Either

655
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: you make it or you don't. You only play seventeen games,

656
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: some of them are very very important. So why we

657
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: have different rules? Who cares about if the game goes

658
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: long twenty minutes, it'll be fine. Sixty minutes will air

659
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: on the West coast, right, I mean, crap, we'll watch

660
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: it then, Like it doesn't matter if these games, just

661
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: make it fair and do it the whole time, so

662
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: you don't get to the playoffs and no one knows

663
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: what the hell's going on because there hasn't been a game.

664
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the forty nine ers, you know, I'm

665
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: not excusing them for that, but they hadn't played in

666
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: these games, and they probably should have because you would

667
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: have had the rule like that. There's no reason why

668
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: if the rule is good enough for the regular season,

669
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean for the playoffs, why is it not good

670
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: enough for the regular season. Don't throw baseball at me

671
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: or hockey or anything like that, because they play one

672
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two baseball games and eighty two hockey

673
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: and basketball games. So if you want to switch it up,

674
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: that's fine. You have plenty of chances to get to

675
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But in football you have seventeen games, So

676
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: there's no reason why these games should be considered not

677
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: as important as the playoffs. If this is the rule,

678
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: this is the way you want it in the playoffs,

679
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: make it that way in the regular season. That's my

680
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: rant for the day. All right, we have another caller here.

681
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: We got Scott in New Hampshire.

682
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 9: Nick, you hear me?

683
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what's up? I know you've been holding a

684
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: little bit. How you doing?

685
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, no problem, dude, I'm just excited to talk to you. Yeah,

686
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 9: but a little bit. Last time we chatted, I think

687
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 9: we were approaching the Packer game and with the excitement

688
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 9: was there and now obviously we are where we're at now. Yeah,

689
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 9: I think, uh, first off, I wanted to say thank you.

690
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 9: I mean, we talk about the Dallas Cowboys. I think

691
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 9: I can speak for every caller who calls in. There

692
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 9: really is no off season for us. I mean the

693
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 9: true fans, like we are excited for the draft, we're

694
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 9: excited for free agency? Yeah, or are we our expectations

695
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 9: probably lower than we had hoped, and we were, you know,

696
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 9: dealing with the disappointment. Yeah, but you know, I feel

697
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 9: like the true fans are still going to be following

698
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 9: the Cowboys.

699
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: Yep.

700
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 9: Thank you, so thanks to keep thanks keep giving us content.

701
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 9: My my big question, and I'll hang out, is when

702
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 9: we look at michaelccarthy. One thing that he's done is

703
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 9: he's given his captains bi weekly. And one thing that

704
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 9: we've noticed I feel like is a lack of leadership

705
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 9: on this team. And even on Michael Parsons podcasting and

706
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 9: cedeelamb we're talking about how there really isn't, you know,

707
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 9: much leadership and that they need to hold themselves more accountable.

708
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 9: And I'm just curious if that's maybe something that goes

709
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 9: into it is we don't actually have assigned leaders or

710
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 9: assigned captains for the entire season, and that people kind

711
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 9: of get to check in and check out each week

712
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 9: with who their captains are. So I'll hang up and listen.

713
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 9: I just I appreciate you taking the call.

714
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. Scott that's a really good point.

715
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Let said, I don't know if not everybody's listening or

716
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 1: not everybody, I'm sorry, and everybody's watching, so I'll say

717
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: that I'm not I'm not sure if that matters at all,

718
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: As I nod my head, yeah, I think it doesn't matter.

719
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a heck of a point when you're

720
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: when you have a team that you think there's a

721
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: leadership void, or you think that there's there's some not

722
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: as much continuity as you would need. I thought this

723
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: same thing when I watch the Super Bowl, when I

724
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: watch the guys up there, and I don't know if

725
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: they do that differently in the playoffs or maybe who knows,

726
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: maybe McCarthy has a different plan for the playoffs. So

727
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: how it builds up, I don't really remember. I can't

728
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: tell you who the captains were for the Packers game. Honestly,

729
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they did there. But I see

730
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: it every week. I mean every week you go and

731
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: you you know, they're playing the Eagles, and there's you know,

732
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: there's Hurts, there's Reddick, you know, there's Lane Johnson, you know,

733
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: and then you've got you know, no offense to these guys.

734
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know you've got you know, some

735
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: lineback you or Marques Bell, you know, is as a

736
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: captain for the week, or or you know, maybe it's

737
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: your long snapper or Trent c Here, you know, whoever

738
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, and there's there's a method to it.

739
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't really share it with us, which is fine,

740
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just it seems more like a

741
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, little league soccer, you know, trophies where everybody

742
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: gets what everyone gets to be captain at some point.

743
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way they do it. When my

744
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: son was playing soccer, you know, it was like you're

745
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: the captain. You're the captain today, Like yes, you know,

746
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: tales never fails. I mean, that's that's what you have

747
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: to do. But I think it goes more to it

748
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: than that when you're talking about actual leaders on the team.

749
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: And you know me personally, I never coached the game

750
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I know I never will, but

751
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean I would have. I would have a special

752
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: teams a captain, a defensive captain, and offensive captain every game,

753
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: these three guys, and if you want to do some

754
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: kind of thing where this week it's this guy or whatever,

755
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: it's the fourth one or fourth and fifth or whatever

756
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: you want to say. That's fine. You know you can

757
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: put five out there, but I mean every week, I

758
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: think you need to have you know, Dak should be

759
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: the captain or Tank or Mike or whoever it is

760
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: on defense. You know, those should be the guys and

761
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: then then you can mix it up from there. That's

762
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: just my opinion. Is that the reason why they're losing? No,

763
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: probably not, but you know what, like you said, it's

764
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: a long offseason, so we had a lot of things

765
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: to talk about, and that could be one of them.

766
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: All Right, Travis and san Antonio, what's going on? Nick Haran,

767
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: how are you doing?

768
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 10: Pretty good? Tales never fails for sure, always yeah to

769
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 10: go for me, I was, I didn't watch the game.

770
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 10: I've entered my krusty stage of like when the Cowboys

771
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 10: are out, I'm out.

772
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: And so you've never seen a super Bowl, Like you

773
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: haven't seen one in thirty years.

774
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 10: I haven't seen one in probably the last five.

775
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, it's just.

776
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 10: And I think, well, I mean, to be fair, part

777
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 10: of it is I get into the draft stuff, so

778
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 10: I kind of shift my focus and we just focus

779
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 10: into that just because the last couple year has been

780
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 10: so brutal that I just turn it off. That's my

781
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 10: I'll out myself, that's my defense. Mechans just I just

782
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 10: don't not interesting to me anymore. After the Cowboys are out.

783
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 10: But the DeMarcus Ware thing, Sorry, yeah, Lawrence, I heard that,

784
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 10: and I don't know, and I know there's been different

785
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 10: things said about like maybe he was trying to protect

786
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 10: some people or whatnot, and I just just it was

787
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 10: one of those things where it flustered me so much

788
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 10: where I was just like, even if that's the case,

789
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 10: you just it's just some things you just can't say.

790
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 10: Because there's only two things in sports, at least from competing,

791
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 10: whether it's a local basketball court or a football field,

792
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 10: there's only two words that usually get guys going, and

793
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 10: that's the B word and soft, and I just I can't. Yeah,

794
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 10: there's some others, but those are definitely two. To hear

795
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 10: those two and there's usually something going on, and that's

796
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 10: you know, football players are for sure.

797
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't.

798
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 10: You never want to hear soft And that just to

799
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 10: me screams that's what you're saying, that's what that's what

800
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 10: opponost want to hear. They want to hear, like, oh,

801
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 10: this guy's tired, and he's telling me he's tired. Even

802
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 10: if you're on a field and you're tired, you're not

803
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 10: going to say it to somebody because they're going to

804
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 10: go after you. And that part was tough to hear. Micah,

805
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 10: I think he's getting to the point where this not

806
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 10: against anybody doing their own thing, but it's getting to

807
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 10: the point where, like you just watch stuff on Twitter

808
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 10: and he's responding to trolls, he's responding to just just

809
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 10: like honestly me.

810
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: Like dudes like me.

811
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 10: He's just responding to everybody. And I think it's starting

812
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 10: to get to a point with him where it's like

813
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 10: a law of diminishing returns, where it's like like KD

814
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 10: went through this and eventually he figured it out, like

815
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 10: you're playing a game that you can't win with the

816
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 10: media and respond to every Fred or Joe and you know,

817
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 10: flower mouth. But this random places. So hopefully maybe later

818
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 10: in his career he'll figure it out that it's just

819
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 10: not as it's not worth you know, responding to everybody

820
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 10: on Twitter. I'm not saying that that's contributing to like,

821
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 10: you know, wins and losses. But I just think it's

822
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 10: a waste of his time. But that's just me.

823
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: It's not just it's not just you. It's not just you.

824
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of people that think that way.

825
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like that's that's a popular opinion. So

826
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: when you say it's just me, it isn't. It isn't.

827
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that feel that way. And

828
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: it's getting you know, it's getting to be problematic, and

829
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: it's getting the really problematic when you start calling out

830
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: your own teammates.

831
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

832
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he necessarily called them out,

833
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: but he sure didn't come to their defense. And so

834
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: maybe that's the same thing.

835
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 10: And I know you mentioned this earlier, and I'll say

836
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 10: this and then I'll get off and see what you think.

837
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 10: But I do you know, we've we've talked about in

838
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 10: the past with this team, and I'm not saying I'm

839
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 10: not going to be you know, disrespect. I have respect

840
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 10: for again for JaMarcus Lawrence, thinking I'm sure he's great guy.

841
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 10: You know, he's always I've never had any issues. However,

842
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 10: it does between that and maybe it's just this week

843
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 10: with mic and stuff. We need more CD lambs and

844
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 10: less of that type of stuff. And it just makes

845
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 10: me wonder and I hate to say it, but makes

846
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 10: me wonder. Like you said, how close is the team?

847
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 10: Maybe it's not as close as we thought. And at

848
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 10: the same time we've said we have the right guys,

849
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 10: we say that, you know, we say that the last six, seven,

850
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 10: eight years, Maybe we don't have enough of the right guys.

851
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 10: You just see what you think.

852
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point. You know, you need more.

853
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: That's it's just like with playmakers. You know, like, yeah,

854
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: we got some playmakers, but you need you need more

855
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: of them. You need more of them at the right

856
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: spot at the right time. You mean, this seemed hat

857
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: what ten pro bowlers on the team that they have talent,

858
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: but but there's it's at different spots too, you know,

859
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: and you need some at You can't have a pro

860
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: bowler at every position, but you can you can certainly try.

861
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: So you know the thing you're still there.

862
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I was gonna say. And last thing I

863
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 10: was gonna say, because everyone's been saying, even though it's repetitive,

864
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 10: is Darren woods In regardless of the game, not watching

865
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 10: the game, Darren Woodson not getting into the whole name

866
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 10: as absolute full you know what. Yeah, that's just that's

867
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 10: just what it is. So I don't know what they're

868
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 10: doing as far as voting going on, but him not

869
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 10: getting in is it's a bleeping.

870
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: Joke, is what it is.

871
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: All Right, Thanks Dravis. I appreciate that. Thanks to call

872
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: for the call. Let's go to Derek and Seattle. Derek,

873
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: what's up?

874
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: Man?

875
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: Hey there, how you doing?

876
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing good?

877
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: All right?

878
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 4: What do you got?

879
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm just calling just two things. One is it seems

880
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: like Dallas is just the last couple of years they've

881
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: shifted to playing these seven safeties on the field and

882
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: it's killing me because we get ran all over. So

883
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 2: just the thought on, you know, they need two real

884
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: linebackers and then they got to run the ball.

885
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 4: I just you know.

886
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: And and then the other thing is, you know, you

887
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: always hear people say, oh, they're so far away. So

888
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: in one off season you can turn your whole team around.

889
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: If you hit on two or three draft picks, two

890
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: or three free agents, boom, they're right there for competing

891
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: for a championship.

892
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and I appreciate it. First time, call, right, Derek,

893
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: First time call.

894
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, since I was an infant, so watched all the

895
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: Super Bowls. But it has been a long dry run.

896
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: It has, it has, and it gets mentioned every year,

897
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: it gets it gets pointed out every year how many

898
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: years it's been. Nobody ever has to do any research

899
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: on that, like how long has it been? Like everybody

900
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: knows is this year is going to be twenty nine.

901
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Everybody knows, we get it. No, you're right, running the

902
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: ball and stopping the run. I mean, uh, more linebackers,

903
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: more more beef in the middle to run the football.

904
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that's that's the that's got

905
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: to be the key. That's got to be the key

906
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: for this team. And you know, like you said, you

907
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: got to have a good offseason. You got to hit

908
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: on some of these draft picks, You got to hit

909
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: on some free agents. You also need to have, you know,

910
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: some a new coordinator that that could maybe change some things.

911
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean, think about when when Dan Quinn was here.

912
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, he he actually gave you some better players

913
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: with the guys you had already on the team, you know,

914
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: like like what he gave you with Donovan Wilson. I

915
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: mean he made Donovan Wilson into a really good player,

916
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: I think, just the way he used him, you know.

917
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: And so think like that when you look at free

918
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: agency as well and say, all right, oh, they signed

919
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: some guy like who is this guy? You know, I've

920
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: never heard of him where he play played for the Vikings, Like, oh, okay,

921
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: never heard of him, kind of like you had never

922
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: heard of jay Ron Curse really, you know. But Quinn

923
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: had had a plan for him, just like Zimmer might

924
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: have a plan for some of these guys and how

925
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna fit this team. So Belichick did that for

926
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: years too, like bringing in guys that you wouldn't think

927
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: were that good or whatever, but he had a role

928
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: for them. So yeah, you can. You can make some

929
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: splashes in the offseason, especially when you're changing up your

930
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: scheme and your coordinator like this. All right, well, I

931
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: think that's it for the for the calls today, open lines, right, Chris.

932
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: I think we're unless we can lest the phones ring,

933
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna We're gonna end it. So

934
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: it's been a good show for everybody.

935
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 8: I got.

936
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: We got a call Eric in North Carolina. Eric, North Carolina, Man,

937
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: what's up, hey, Nick?

938
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 7: How are you doing today?

939
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you doing? You're gonna be our

940
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: last call to think?

941
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, I always seem to get the last

942
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 7: call that. I just want to talk a little bit

943
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 7: about Uh Will McLay. Like every year he's like highly

944
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 7: thought after and there's always several teams that want to

945
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 7: make him GM uh. But it seems and I know,

946
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 7: and I've listened to him. I know he's a highly

947
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 7: intelligent man. He knows, he knows football, he knows talent.

948
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 7: But it seems like, uh, not every year, but it

949
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 7: seems like we don't listen to him. It seems like

950
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 7: we listen to the d C, you know, or the

951
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 7: or the o C, and we wind up reaching for

952
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 7: for players in the drafts and we don't get the

953
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 7: best the best player. And I was just wondering if

954
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 7: you have any comments on that, well, hold on.

955
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Before you before you go, I mean, like, are you

956
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: suggesting that are you saying that they don't draft that well?

957
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean I think this team drafts well. I'm sorry,

958
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: I mean, even this last even with this last one,

959
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: they still draft well. And I think they listen to him.

960
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's running the draft in there, he

961
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: gets a lot of praise for some of these picks.

962
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just not going to be one to

963
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: say Mozzi and Schoomaker and you know, the picks from

964
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: this year and say they don't draft well because because

965
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: they do. I mean they in the last fourteen years,

966
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, there's been three years where the first round

967
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: pick hasn't made the Pro Bowl, you know, and it

968
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: with Mazie and it's Taco and it's Clayborne. Everybody else

969
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: makes the Pro Bowl. I mean, they get I think

970
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: they do a really good job drafts, and I think

971
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: I think Will mclaig gets a lot of credit for that.

972
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: I really do.

973
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know we draft better than most teams. It's

974
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 7: just that when we miss, you know, like last year's

975
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 7: draft still stings, and like when we when we miss

976
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 7: on a top a top one hundred player, it just yeah,

977
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 7: it just buzzed me.

978
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 6: Uh like I'll just.

979
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 7: Throw out, like, uh, Gallimore, like I just I mean,

980
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 7: I know he's a free agent and I hope we

981
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 7: don't re sign him, but like every uh, every time

982
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 7: the camera's on him, I see him getting like ridden

983
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 7: out and like wash down the line. Yeah, and the

984
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 7: same thing with you know, the same thing with Mazie.

985
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: And I know you can.

986
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 7: I know you can pick and choose players like I

987
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 7: am excited about about Jalen Brooks from last year and

988
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 7: Richard's the offensive lineman and Overshown. I think they're gonna

989
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 7: be good players. Yeah, But you know, it's like it's

990
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 7: like seems like this draft where we're we're still needing

991
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 7: the same players as last year. You know, like it

992
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 7: seemed like we didn't make any progress, you know, like

993
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 7: on the like on the O line or the D line.

994
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: And that's fair. I mean, like last year's draft really

995
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: did it? Did it help you? Like you like you

996
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: would think that's that is fair? But you're going to

997
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: have to do that two more times and hopefully we

998
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: don't see that two more times, but that's going to

999
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: have to happen like three years in a row before

1000
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, we got a problem here, because I

1001
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: think when you look at them and how they draft

1002
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: and how they draft in the middle rounds, you know

1003
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: that they I mean there was a stretch here where

1004
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: the franchise tag for four straight years went to a

1005
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. You know, fourth round pick is getting

1006
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: your franchise tag. Dak got it twice. Schultz got it,

1007
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: Pollard got it. You know, I mean Deron bland Is

1008
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: is an pro bowler, you know, all pro. In the

1009
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: fifth round, you hit some you know, you you have

1010
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: to hit on some of these third, fourth, and fifth rounders.

1011
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: And I think for the most part you named a

1012
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: couple that haven't hit, but there are some that that have.

1013
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: And and I think you know, as long as you

1014
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: keep doing that, and you gotta you gotta win on

1015
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: your first round pick. Right now, they're not winning on

1016
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: their first round pick last year from Mazzie Smith. They're

1017
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: not winning. If Zimber comes in has a different you know,

1018
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: view for him, changes things up, gets him to play

1019
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: at a much higher level, then yeah, I mean, and

1020
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: you could kind of flip it around a little bit.

1021
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well that's great. I appreciate it. Yeah, are

1022
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 7: you looking for I mean, I know, I know this

1023
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 7: isn't the draft show, but I was wondering if you

1024
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 7: have like two or three players like coming out of

1025
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 7: college that you would love to see the Cowboys sick.

1026
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, I'm honestly, I'm really not there at all.

1027
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: I I kind of wait a little a little longer

1028
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: on that. You know, I let the you know, let

1029
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: the stories come out of the combine and pro days

1030
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: and and things like that. It's just not ever been

1031
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: my thing. Uh, there's a lot of fans that are,

1032
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: and we got a lot of people on our staff

1033
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: that just love it, can't get enough of it. I

1034
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: tend to wait a little bit. I would just be

1035
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: throwing names out there just because at twenty now, if

1036
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: they were picking in the top five or ten or whatever,

1037
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: and you kind of get a good vision of how

1038
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: things might fall, then I think it's not too early

1039
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: to do that. But for me at twenty four, I mean,

1040
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: i'd be surprised if the Cowboys are taking it twenty four,

1041
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it wouldn't be surprised if they're

1042
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: doing some shuffling trading things around. So it's always a

1043
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: little bit it's always a little bit premature for me.

1044
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: So I don't really have names for you there, and

1045
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: I probably won't give you some names until about mid April,

1046
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: maybe right for the draft. It's just not really been

1047
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: my thing. But we good good news is we got

1048
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: two draft shows a week Tuesday and Thursday, the Draft Show,

1049
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: and then some of them are gonna be going up

1050
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: to the combine and next week, so we'll start really

1051
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: kind of zeroing in on this.

1052
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: I understand.

1053
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 7: I appreciate you, Nick, thank you, Thanks.

1054
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: Eric, thanks for the call. All Right, that'll do it

1055
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: for this show. We'll be back on Thursday. We'll be

1056
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: able to talk a little bit more about you know,

1057
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: free agencies getting closer right around the corner. It is

1058
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: next month. It's about a month away now, so we

1059
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: can talk a little bit about that and any other

1060
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: questions that you have, and you know, stay tuned to

1061
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: the website schedule and we'll announce if there's a press conference.

1062
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: It could be a press conference later in the week

1063
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: with McCarthy and new DC Mike Zimmer. So all right,

1064
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: So for that for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. We

1065
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: will see you on Thursday. On Cowboys Storyline.

1066
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

1067
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.