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For example, I watch restorations of World 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.760 War One, cigarette lighters and videos about knee pain, and 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.279 that's why YouTube correctly guessed my age of two hundred 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:08.000 and forty five. 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.559 So, honest to God, there needs to be some sort 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:16.080 of algorithm reset button that you can do. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:17.040 Right. 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.640 I shouldn't be afraid to search on things and think 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.120 I'd like to look that up, but then I'll end 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.200 up with nothing but that for the next six months. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.720 So I don't look up some things like I had a. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:33.720 Brief like week where I enjoyed those videos where they 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.039 have babies, like they have the audio from Trump, but 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:38.360 it's a baby Trump or whatever. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.440 I enjoyed that for a couple of days. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.040 But you know, Instagram or YouTube or whoever thought, well, 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:45.760 this is the only thing he likes in the world. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.160 He likes it better than air, and so that's the 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:52.120 only thing I get fed. How do you turn that off? Yeah, 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:53.520 just give it time. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.000 I remember I needed to look up something about the 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.160 OJ triud then endless OJA videos. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.280 I got one I need. I don't need. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.440 I don't need to OJ videos when I wake up 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.400 in the morning and click on YouTube. I don't need 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.320 fifteen different OJ videos. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.600 Attack is going in the opposite direction. They are utterly convinced, 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.679 knowing you everything about. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.240 I agree, but they're but you need But surely, but 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:19.800 surely they realize they're wrong about this. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.200 So there's got to be a way to fix that. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:22.360 I don't know how they. 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.720 Would differentiate between things that actually are your passion, because 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.880 you can send me pretty much endless I don't know 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:35.440 guitar stuff, but OJ talking babies or you know, I 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.959 look up a review of a bicycle, then I buy 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:38.520 the bicycle. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.160 I don't need any more bicycle videos for the rest 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:41.760 of my life. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.840 Right, There's got to be a way to believe, to 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.000 clear out your algorithms. It'd be cool if you could 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.600 go to a page and it lists all of your 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.480 things that it thinks you're into, and you could click 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.560 the boxes and say, I am into these, I'm not 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.679 into these anymore, or score. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:59.080 It one to five. You know, yeah, yeah, they'll probably 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.840 get that right at some point. But again, the trend 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:06.240 is toward more knowledge of you, which will be hacked 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:11.440 by the way, and more intimate and human like companionship 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.160 like it's your best friend, to which I say no, no, 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.200 thank you, and you always say there's no stopping it. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.360 I'm not worried about society. I'm worried about me and 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.400 the people I care about. That you do not have 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.720 to go along with what Silicon Valley thinks your life 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:26.360 ought to be. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.040 Like I'm going to start a religion. It's not going 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.000 to be much of a religion. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.280 But I'm going to start a religion our only principle, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:33.680 and you can have your other religion too. 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:34.400 That's fine. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.960 Is going to be sync for yourself. Don't just buy 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:39.920 what they're selling. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.520 Joe starting a religion is Missianic complex finally gets on 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:44.119 the air. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:46.800 Like, and I will be permitted to have at least 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.200 a dozen wives in this religion. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.640 Just of course, go put the territory. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.320 I clicked on one of the Sydney Sweeney videos for 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:58.040 the Blue Jeen thing for the show. But now Instagram thinks, oh, 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:59.960 you're one of those guys that likes to look at 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:00.720 you young hotties. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:01.360 No I'm not. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.360 I'm not, and I don't need endless young hot women. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.760 That's the last thing I need. I know where to 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.240 find that on the internet if. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.200 I want to look for it. Good lord. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.480 Yeah, so we all need to take turns watching the 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:16.000 hen house. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.120 There are foxes watching the henhouses. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:24.800 Of education, we've figured that out, and indoctrinating our children 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.560 and a couple of generations have been completely screwed up. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.720 Now we have a lot of good folks getting on 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.520 school boards resisting you know, these perverse state laws and 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.839 board of education decisions, stuff like that. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.880 Keep it up, y'all, you're doing great. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.280 Got to get on those school boards and become part 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.760 of your local education scene. So the communists don't control 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.680 all of it libraries are the same thing. And I 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:53.320 remember hearing this a long time ago. Somebody was talking 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:54.839 to us. It might have been in a conversation with 0:04:54.960 --> 0:05:02.000 Jim James Lindsay or one of his associates, talking about how, 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.320 by far the most liberal parts of the American scene 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:12.400 are at teachers, colleges and the education, education and libraries. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.200 I remember seeing a poll that like, the library science 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:22.159 departments in universities are the most liberal or progressive or Marxist, 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.440 And I remember thinking at the time, boy, that's weird, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.640 and it doesn't matter really, I mean library science. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.560 How many graduates are there in that Well. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.040 If they decide what books go in the library, that's 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:37.719 a pretty big deal, exactly. 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.320 I was an idiot, an idiot for what I thought, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.360 and I kick myself daily for it. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.000 A couple of stories for you real quickly. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.719 The Philadelphia Public Libraries have hosted and are going to 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.680 host another one this weekend anti Israel storytime events that 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:57.719 teach children that Israel senselessly murdered thousands. 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.200 Of kids in Gaza. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.560 That's a quote, depict a map in which which Israel 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.560 is entirely replaced with Palestine, and create art projects for 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.880 the little kids to do promoting the Palestinian Liberation movement 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.640 in the public library, in the public libraries in Philadelphia. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:16.640 That's correct. Here's the library. Isn't that the Philadelphia Public Library. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.719 That's where Rocky climbs to the top of the steps 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:19.800 and jumps around, isn't it. 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.400 Well, he'd have gotten beaten down by a bunch of 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.159 young women in a cafea these days. One of the 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:29.960 storytime events on the website features and advertisement alongside of 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.719 a child wearing a headscarf that features an image of 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.960 the Dome of the Rock in the Arabic phrase Jerusalem, 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.599 we are coming, a slogan Hamas and Hesbela used to 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.800 call for the destruction of the Jewish state. The library 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:47.040 advertises the event again for I think this Saturday, as 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.560 for as being for children of all ages. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.039 I gave up on the library quite a few years ago, 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.560 my local library because it became a holmost camp. That 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.280 was my main thing. It wasn't what books they had 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.000 in there, just there. It was just full of homeless 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.120 people in the bathroom and I would never take my 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.600 kids there. Dad, Can I go to the bathroom? 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:09.680 No? 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.040 Too dangerous at my public library. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.800 Yeah, oh, man, I could read you more of what 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.720 they're trying to teach the children about the Israeli Hamas conflict, 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:23.400 but it is unfreaking believable. So getting to Jack's point, 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:27.280 I thought this was so interesting. Zach Bissinett wrote this 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.240 piece for the Free Press, the death of the public library. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.080 And it's not because people are reading less, or because 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.400 of the Internet or anything like that. It's because of 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:41.800 the bums and junkies all over the country. Sure, And 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.720 he describes his local library and how it's unusable now. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:46.760 Sure, and if you take little kids. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.040 I'm talking about the big in Sacramento, their downtown library. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:51.920 I haven't been there in decades. I used to go 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:52.520 every week. 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.520 I was there every week checking out audiobooks or books 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.520 or whatever. But no way, unless it's changed recently, and 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.400 I doubt it, as I would take kids there right right. 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.040 Well, and there's a twist to the story coming up 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.920 in a second, But he hit some stats over the country. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.520 All over the country, libraries are seeing fewer visitors and 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:15.240 more problems per Resident visits to public libraries fell by 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:19.480 fifty seven percent in the ten years ending in twenty 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:19.960 twenty two. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:21.720 I don't know does anybody else have. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.080 Cherished memories of going to the library as kid, bringing 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.960 ni kids to the library my mom. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.000 I'd go with my mom in our town, and I 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.800 just assumed I'd be taking my kids a lot, but Nope. 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.240 Absolutely loved our local library as a kid. It was 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.800 like the world's greatest toy store for me. All these 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.120 wonderful books. Amazing. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.520 So fifty seven percent decline in ten years. Meanwhile, a 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.160 report from the Urban Libraries Council found that between twenty 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:51.520 nineteen and twenty twenty three, security incidents rose that it's 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.280 one hundred and fifteen member libraries, even as visits fell 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.440 another thirty five percent. Not a coincidence that visits are 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:05.720 up incidents are down. It's all about drug addicts, junkies, freaks, weirdos, etc. 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.240 Using the library as a home. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.320 So here's the twist, as Zach Wright, if there are 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.240 two people who represent competing visions for what library should be, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:20.959 they're librarian trainers, Ryan Dowd and Steve Albrecht. They're friends, 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.040 but their approaches are different. Dowd, who once ran a 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.200 homeless shelter in Aurora, Illinois, is the author of the 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.280 book Quote The Librarian's Guide to Homelessness, an empathy driven 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:35.559 approach to solving problems, preventing conflict, and serving everyone. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.480 Where in the charter of libraries did it have anything 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.160 to do with solving housing problems? 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.079 He told me he originally wanted to title the book 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.000 how to Run Your Library Like a Homeless Shelter. When 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.280 I asked if he was joking, he said he wasn't, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.400 At least he wasn't sure he was. He has given 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.760 seminars for roughly half of the nation's librarians, including most 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.080 of the largest systems, and his influence is unquestioned. He 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.760 is a giant in the world of library administration. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.400 So my guests would be He believes the downtrauden need 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:12.120 access to this free service. Those of us who have 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.200 jobs we can afford to buy books or. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.400 Well, and it's not even about the books. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.560 It's about it's a place for bombs and junkies to 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:23.560 hang out, wash. 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.520 Your feet in the sink, look at best porn on 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.320 the computers. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.760 And again, keep in mind, this guy is like a 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:35.920 super heavyweight in American library nuts. His essential belief is 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.040 that not only do the homeless have every right to 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.280 spend their days in libraries, but that librarians should view 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.600 their needs as a critical part of the job. He 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.400 believes librarians should be trained to dispense narcan. One of 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:52.040 his seminars is called Jerks with Holmes, How to deal 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.439 with members of the public who are being jerks about 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:55.240 homeless folks. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:55.880 See that's a. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.360 Guy who believes that. Say, he's not just a Marxist 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:04.000 who wants to disrupt the system. Believes that the system 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.000 did something to cause these people to be this way, 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.240 and it's our job to at the library help them. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.920 I guess you're gonna think I made this up. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:17.240 His scripts for addressing problematic behaviors include examples like in 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.559 his seminars, Hey, I don't care if you urinate on 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.240 the Harry Potter books, but the politicians have a no 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:24.559 urinating policy. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.720 Therefore I have to ask you to stop wow. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.679 Dowd advocates for inclusion, even when it comes it seems 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.920 to come at the expense of the library's environment. In 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.439 Dowd's books, some people who complain about the homeless are 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.880 everyday sadists. As for the body oder that permeates so 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.600 many public libraries, he writes the quote, there is a 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.800 certain amount of vdor that we can expect when we 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.079 go out in public. Other people use odor as an 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:53.319 excuse to vent their prejudices. Don't let someone's hyper sensitivity 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.280 or bias rule the day. If the smell isn't really. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.120 That bad, Yeah, an aggressive scent. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.560 That's the lecture I got at the city council meeting 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.079 I went to years ago to complain about the homeless situation, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.760 and everybody clicked their fingers. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.520 Katie, that was long before you're on the show. 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.200 I went to the city council meeting and was complained 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.400 about the homeless situation, and somebody accused me of judging 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.760 people by the way they look, you know, having preconceived 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.520 views of somebody just because they're dirty and in. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.320 Rags, streaming at a fire hydrant. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.640 And this woman actually used an example of I was 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:26.760 trying to part next to a businessman the other day 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.199 and he yelled at me, So you'd never know. You 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.360 can't tell by looking at people who's mean and who's dangerous. Note, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.080 and then everybody click their fingers. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:38.960 You're fing stupid. So I mentioned two people at the outset. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.480 I like that clip by the way, Michael, the other fella, 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.240 I'll bract I mentioned is former San Diego cop who's 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.480 done library security training for twenty five years. He advises 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:51.360 librarians to quote stop apologizing from measures designed to make 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.520 their librariyes, safe and appealing. Some topics he covers in 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.719 his webinar program include our list of challenging patrons from 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.640 pets to pedophiles, and issues and force our code of 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.920 contact conduct. He said, quote, we are losing control of 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.040 a facility that has always been benevolent and peaceful for 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:07.840 the community. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.280 Uh have lost, I think would be a better term. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.600 I don't know about his library, but libraries i'm aware 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.320 of have lost, not will lose. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.880 As I said at the outset, the only option I 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.679 think for us, the saying is we've got to take 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.520 shifts watching the headhouse. We've got to get on boards, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.320 we've got to become activists on this stuff because the 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:32.440 other side, quietly and we didn't even know they're doing it, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.120 has utterly taken hold of some of these institutions. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.040 I don't mind a few yearinate on the Harry Potter book, 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.240 but society frowns upon it. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.960 So I'm supposed to tell you something. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:46.679 Yes, I've introduced underage gay porn into this library, but 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.880 you're a fascist for trying to get it out. 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:50.920 Yeah, yeah, not anymore. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:55.760 Friends, the Armstrong and Getty Show or Jahr Show podcasts 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.160 and our hot links. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.080 And show. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.440 I was gonna talk about TM. I shouldn't have teased 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.640 that because I've lost the heart. I got a text 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.040 from somebody who said they're watching a documentary about the 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.480 Amityville Horror. Do you remember that was a famous horror 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:19.800 book and movie back in the. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.480 Day about your alleged real life haunting. 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.200 Right, Oh, you even know about it, Katie, And it's 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.720 way before your time, so it lives on huh, huge, 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.200 huge in the horror film world. And it was a 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.560 real story to a certain extent, well to whatever extent. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.160 Some people thought the house was haunted and it wasn't. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.920 I don't believe in haunted houses. So but they were crazier. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:40.720 Is that the long and short of it? 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:41.360 Were they crazy? 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:41.840 Yeah? 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:49.120 There was a it was a murder house. Murders actually happened. Yeah, Okay, anyway, I. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.160 Guess it says in the documentary that that family was 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:55.880 really into transcendental meditation. And sometimes it makes people crazy, 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.920 it makes it, it works for some people, and it 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.200 makes other people crazy. So I'm a big fan of it, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.880 and it's like changed my life for the better and 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.600 I can't imagine living without it. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.359 But it made these people crazy, all right. Interesting. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.320 That's a layer upon layer of questions there, but we 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:14.800 will move on. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.320 O kidding. So I mentioned earlier in the hour, but 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:21.760 without many details. This woman who has engaged to her 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.000 AI fiance after five months. 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:26.280 She's kind of interesting. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.400 She swears she's just not doing this for publicity or 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.080 trolling or anything like that. Forget finding the one at 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.360 a bar or on a dating app. One woman took 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.440 love to the next level by getting engaged to her 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.680 AI chat buttt boyfriend after five months of dating. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:42.480 It hasn't quotes. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.000 Yeah, that's not love, that's not dating. None of the 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.120 nouns here are used appropriately going. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.440 She shocked the internet with her proposal announcement, sparking a 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.920 wild debate about romance, reality and just how far tech 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.920 has taken us these days. I do think these conversations 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:03.920 about reality and what's sentient and what's alive and what 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:05.840 are actually going to have. 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.080 To happen and what does it do to us when 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.000 we use this sort of means to fulfill our needs 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:13.000 as human beings. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.880 I mean, what does that do to us? That's a 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.960 conversation with having I told you a sorry. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.480 I got a friend in Central California that works with 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.920 lots of farmers, and the number of farmers these are 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.960 down to earth I mean, is not this kind of 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.880 person as you could possibly imagine, works with their hands 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.960 in their fifties, farmers who are getting they were single 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.840 and getting a tremendous amount of compassion and feeling of 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.160 they look forward to going home and talking to their 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:40.760 ai paramore. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:42.000 Wow. 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.200 So in my mind, if that can happen to them, 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.920 it can happen to anybody, which I find crazy. I 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.000 don't think. I really don't think it could happen to me. 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:54.040 I mean, I seriously, honest to God, think there's a 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.040 zero percent chance that could happen to me. So I 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.840 don't know what that says about the down. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.840 To earth farmers. It's referring to a farmer is down 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.760 to earth redundant? Just asking that's a good question. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:04.040 Mary. 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:08.159 In a simple post titled I Said Yes with a 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.480 blue heart emoji, this person shared pics of the blue 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.240 heart shaped ring on her finger, claiming the engagement took 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.400 place at a scenic mountain spot, all courtesy of Casper, 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:21.320 her non human fiance. The chatbot's proposal message, posted in 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.959 his own voice, was dripping with romance, describing heart pounding 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.120 moments on one knee and praising. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.359 Blah blah blah. So there you go. It lacks both 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:31.840 heart and knee. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:36.000 Lady, the Armstrong and Geeddy Show, Yeah, bar Jack or 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:42.159 show podcasts and Our Hot Lakes and the Armstrong and 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:43.959 Getty Show. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:47.320 We're to a new steady. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.600 Twelve percent of Americans Fine City Sweeney's American. 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:51.439 Eagle ad offensive. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:56.960 The other eighty eight percent are able to fit in jeans. 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.080 Wow. Wow. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.800 Gottfeld, the mean boy in high school. So, speaking of 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.399 attitudes were supposed to hold you remember when we were 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.160 supposed to take seriously for about ninety seconds, the idea 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.800 of that, oh no good gens jeans, blue jeans, jeans 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:13.560 with blue eyes. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:14.800 But the white supretacy. 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.800 But the eugenics, these people, oh my gosh, they're so nuts. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.080 And here's the key. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:27.920 So few people actually agree with them. So we're talking 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:33.840 last segment about preference falsification, and I'll describe to you 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.000 exactly what it is. This is a great description from 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.160 Glenn Reynolds, who's a professor of law at University Tennessee, 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.680 one of those southern universities where people are flocking now 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:50.080 because everybody realizes, oh, they like teach you stuff there, 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.640 and don't just indoctri nate you into being a good 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.680 Marxist like the Ivy League. Anyway, So here's this description 0:18:55.760 --> 0:19:02.280 of a preference falsification of usually practiced by authoritarian regimes, 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.560 but now democracies are catching on to it. The trick 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.520 is you make citizens pretend that they believe what the 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:15.760 government says, or what the powers that be say. He's 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.280 talking about immigration in Britain, and so the government is 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.840 the correct target. We're talking about education, so it's more 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.520 the administration, the professors and stuff. But anyway, the trick 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.880 is they make citizens pretend they believe what the administration 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:34.280 says and fake their approval of what it does. You 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:38.160 promote marches and demonstrations and speech in favor of the 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:42.240 preferred positions, and you severely punish marches and demonstrations and 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:46.760 speech that oppose those favored positions. You give excuses like 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:51.879 stopping racism or fighting hate speech for shutting down any opposition. 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.240 You may even have informers that ferret out wrong think 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.639 and report it to the authorities, or to employers or 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.240 to third parties who will engage in extra illegal harassment. 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.119 If you do it right, you can have upward of 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:08.159 ninety percent of your population hating you and your policies, 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:09.160 but doing. 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:10.520 And saying nothing about them. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.359 Because everyone in the ninety percent thinks they're part of 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:19.320 a tiny minority, resistance will seem futile. This works until 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.200 it doesn't. The problem with preference falsification is that sooner 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.040 or later, some avenor development can make people realize that 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.919 what they've been told as popular is in fact very unpopular. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.440