Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, how are you?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: What's your life like?
Speaker 3: Uh? Right now, it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What's what's good about?
Speaker 3: It's real life.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I have a new job that I really like.
Speaker 1: It says here, did you want to talk about shipping
Speaker 1: in a cup?
Speaker 3: Yes? So I was working for a company. I won't
Speaker 3: say their name, but their very big company.
Speaker 1: Says here, you worked at Ama, and I was.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, that was the company. I was a
Speaker 3: delivery driver there in Brooklyn, New York, and I had
Speaker 3: just finished eating McDonald's. I was about maybe three or
Speaker 3: four minutes into my drive out of McDonald's when the
Speaker 3: bubbly shit sensation came on. And I was in an
Speaker 3: area where there was nowhere to go. I was too
Speaker 3: far from the McDonald's. I was in an apartment complex,
Speaker 3: and I had no other option but to take the
Speaker 3: McDonald's cup and fill it to the brim with hot diarrhea.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you park and go inside the McDonald's.
Speaker 3: I was too far from the McDonald's I had left.
Speaker 3: I was maybe four or five minutes away. I attempted
Speaker 3: to make a delivery, and then as I was walking
Speaker 3: to the apartment building, I felt it and I panicked.
Speaker 3: I ran back to the truck, and it was either
Speaker 3: shit in the coup or shit in my pants.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, and I want you
Speaker 1: to answer this honestly to your feelings. Sure, you know,
Speaker 1: there's the whole thing with Amazon about like people are
Speaker 1: working in the warehouses and like like they have to
Speaker 1: pee in bottles so bad. And I want to know,
Speaker 1: is you sitting in a McDonald's cup in your truck?
Speaker 1: Is that a statement on capitalism? Or is that is
Speaker 1: that just you shitting in McDonald's cup in your truck.
Speaker 3: Well, all right, so I don't blame McDonald I would say,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't blame McDonald's more than I blame Amazon. I mean, like,
Speaker 3: what what option could they give me as a driver?
Speaker 3: Now I'm not I never worked in the warehouse, so
Speaker 3: I can't vouch for the warehouse people. But in a truck,
Speaker 3: there's no clear cut option. Like I could go to
Speaker 3: I could try to be preemptive and poop before I
Speaker 3: get in the truck, you know, or but sometimes it's
Speaker 3: just do or die, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's a statement on capitalism, but not on behalf
Speaker 1: of Amazon. It's on behalf of McDonald's there to blame
Speaker 1: for giving you the diarrhea in the.
Speaker 3: Now, well, I don't want to blame McDonald's either, because
Speaker 3: I knew what I was getting into you. I mean,
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was going to come on that quick.
Speaker 1: But the diarrhea is you know, you don't make it.
Speaker 1: You don't make responsibility.
Speaker 3: Yes, you don't make the decision to go to McDonald's
Speaker 3: and be like, this is a healthy life choice. You know.
Speaker 3: It was just I was hungry. I knew I was
Speaker 3: going to pay for it at some point. I just
Speaker 3: didn't know it was going to be that quick.
Speaker 1: Okay, final question, how much of the diary? This is
Speaker 1: another thing I need to be honest with you about it.
Speaker 1: How much of the diarrhea? What percentage got into the cup?
Speaker 3: All of it? I I it was. It was cup
Speaker 3: to asshole like I didn't. It was no room for
Speaker 3: error there. My whole worry was that I was going
Speaker 3: to overfill the cup, and luckily I didn't. But there
Speaker 3: was no cleanup. You know, I'm very I'm very good
Speaker 3: you know with physics. I think you took.
Speaker 1: A clean one hundred percent diary is sure liquid? Yeah,
Speaker 1: into a ye like however many inch.
Speaker 3: It was like a large It was like a large size.
Speaker 3: It was a large McDonald's cup. It was I had
Speaker 3: a big doctor pepper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you put that whole thing in your asshole.
Speaker 3: No, no, it wasn't in my asshole. I didn't like
Speaker 3: put it in my asshole. I put the cup around
Speaker 3: my asshole, like my asshole was like at the center
Speaker 3: of the cup, and it was like I would say,
Speaker 3: air tight to my budgets. It was not really any
Speaker 3: area for splashage except onto my e But your.
Speaker 1: Cheeks had to open up for the diarrhea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have I have a I don't have a
Speaker 3: media ass. I have a very flat ass.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 3: Like Hank Hill. Almost it hurts my back.
Speaker 1: How did uh? How did you wipe afterwards?
Speaker 3: I have, like I have tissues in my bag for
Speaker 3: like my nose and stuff, and I used plenty of
Speaker 3: those for my bud Did.
Speaker 1: You put those in the cup when you were done
Speaker 1: with them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all all poop stuff went into the cup and
Speaker 3: then it went into the garbage. I had to drive
Speaker 3: down to the block with it.
Speaker 1: What percentage of the question, What percentage of the cup
Speaker 1: was filled with diarrhea.
Speaker 3: I would say, like ninety percent of the cup was full.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was very scared of the cup.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of shit.
Speaker 1: You had a ten percent margin of error.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was sweling.
Speaker 1: That's damn you really? This is like you pulled this off?
Speaker 3: Yeah I did. I'm it's gross, but like, I'm very
Speaker 3: proud of my execution.
Speaker 1: Did you take a picture of the cup afterwards?
Speaker 3: I did? Did I wait, did I send you a
Speaker 3: picture of the cup I'm talking about? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think I took a picture.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I called my wife immediately.
Speaker 1: It's my background, your wife you called? What did you
Speaker 1: call your wife.
Speaker 3: For to tell her that I I took the dirhea
Speaker 3: and a cup successfully?
Speaker 1: Can I talk to your wife? Like real quick?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, okay?
Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's your name?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: My name's Lisa, Lisa.
Speaker 1: What was your reaction when your husband called you to
Speaker 1: brag about diarrhea and a McDonald's cup?
Speaker 5: Can I can I just preface this with something. I
Speaker 5: just want you to know that we were actually just
Speaker 5: at your show in Denver, and my husband was too
Speaker 5: afraid to get on the stage and talk to you,
Speaker 5: So I made him call you and.
Speaker 1: Tell you, see, this would have this would have been
Speaker 1: great on the stage. No, because here's the thing. If
Speaker 1: he had actually, if he had gone on the stage
Speaker 1: for this, I would have we would have paused the show.
Speaker 1: I would have gotten a cup, and I would have
Speaker 1: made him prove that he can do this on stage.
Speaker 1: So it's good that he didn't because he would have
Speaker 1: had to back that up.
Speaker 5: He probably he probably could have shipped on command.
Speaker 1: Also, so all right, he's got to come back next year.
Speaker 1: How did you respond when he called you to brag
Speaker 1: about this?
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if I'm not sure it was a brag.
Speaker 3: If I'm being honest, I.
Speaker 4: Think he was. I think he was pretty him back.
Speaker 1: But was I surprised that what he said to me
Speaker 1: that wasn't what he said to me. He didn't say
Speaker 1: he called you because he was embarrassed. He said he
Speaker 1: was proud. Do you hear him say that?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 5: Maybe did you say you were proud?
Speaker 4: He's probably now it took him. That was probably like
Speaker 4: a year ago. He said, Uh, he wasn't.
Speaker 5: Proud in the moment, but he's definitely proud now.
Speaker 4: I think when he called me it was.
Speaker 5: Just like, it's definitely an accomplishment.
Speaker 4: I would say, ah, but I think he.
Speaker 5: I think he was not proud. I don't even remember
Speaker 5: the phone call.
Speaker 1: But you're you're a good wife.
Speaker 3: I am a good wife.
Speaker 5: Thank you, you're a good get Go.
Speaker 1: Let me talk to your husband again real quick before we.
Speaker 5: Before we go, okay, tata yah.
Speaker 1: Billy, is there anything you want to say to other
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Uh? Uh yeah, just you know, keep the cup tight,
Speaker 3: don't leave room for ayer.
Speaker 1: You have a good life, Billy. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Kay, I appreciate you very much.
Speaker 1: Have a good time. Man be too, dude, there's no
Speaker 1: way he didn't get at least a little bit of
Speaker 1: diarrhea on the truck one hundred. He'd better come back
Speaker 1: to Denver next year because I'm pulling him up on
Speaker 1: stage to prove it. What's up. How's it going?
Speaker 4: Oh it's uh, it's going pretty well. I can't complain.
Speaker 4: Just uh, putting one foot in front of the other.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's great. What's what's going on with you?
Speaker 4: Oh? You know, I'm just hanging out after I just
Speaker 4: had a union meeting. Not too long ago. So I, uh,
Speaker 4: I'm just chilling sitting at home, you know, waiting to
Speaker 4: do this again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So, Reese, what is it that you called in to
Speaker 1: talk about?
Speaker 4: So I called Uh, I was talking about I told
Speaker 4: the call screamers that I wanted to talk about being
Speaker 4: a caregiver. And I work. I work pretty extensively with
Speaker 4: my union too, so I uh, yeah, I just kind
Speaker 4: of wanted to talk about that a little bit, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of It's given me a.
Speaker 2: Different perspective on a.
Speaker 4: Kind of just on the aging process as a whole.
Speaker 1: I guess you know who, Yeah, tell me, who are
Speaker 1: you giving care to? Exactly?
Speaker 4: I'm giving care to like folks who like elderly folk
Speaker 4: who have like like dementia, Parkinson's, you know, like kind
Speaker 4: of like you know that that those like later stages
Speaker 4: of life, you know.
Speaker 1: M hmmm. So it says here and this was the
Speaker 1: part of this that caught my eye, that you deal
Speaker 1: with a lot of people who are dying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just kind of it kind of.
Speaker 4: I mean, I personally haven't had anyone pass away, but
Speaker 4: a lot of my coworkers have clients who unfortunately do
Speaker 4: pass away.
Speaker 1: Okay, And So what kind of perspective has it given
Speaker 1: you on aging? As you said, Well, you know, I.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm only twenty five, so I'm I'm still
Speaker 4: just a wee lad in the grander scheme of things,
Speaker 4: you know. But I know that I'm not going to
Speaker 4: I'm only as young as I am, you know right
Speaker 4: now as we're talking, you know, so and and some
Speaker 4: of the folks that have you know that I had
Speaker 4: his clients, they're you know, they're anywhere between like sixty
Speaker 4: and like eighties, you know. So it's like by the
Speaker 4: time like they get to by the time I give
Speaker 4: them care, uh, they're already kind of in their like
Speaker 4: and they're kind of on their last legs, so to speaking.
Speaker 4: Like by one client that I have, he's he's a
Speaker 4: he's a very sweet guy, but he's got he's got
Speaker 4: all he's got a lot going on, and he like
Speaker 4: he like I have to like physically like take him
Speaker 4: to the restroom sometimes and like pull his his pants
Speaker 4: on and his pull ups down so he can use
Speaker 4: the bathroom properly. And it's like, you know, like there's
Speaker 4: this I never like in my short time on this
Speaker 4: and on this planet, I had never thought that there's
Speaker 4: going to be a time where someone is going to
Speaker 4: be in the bathroom with me, probably helping me do
Speaker 4: like what once was essential. I mean, it's still essential,
Speaker 4: but it's no longer as easy as it used to be.
Speaker 4: And it's going to happen to all of us regardless too,
Speaker 4: I mean, like not the specific.
Speaker 1: Like, well, you know, you have an interesting experience where
Speaker 1: the idea of yourself as an old person who is
Speaker 1: limited in mobility and needs help taking a shit is
Speaker 1: so so far, it's so far away from you as
Speaker 1: a twenty five year old, and yet as for what
Speaker 1: you do, you have the unique experience of it's like
Speaker 1: not far away from you, it's right in front of you.
Speaker 1: You're seeing it. You're reminded that that's your fucking fate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like you know, and I look at my
Speaker 4: clients all the time. I can't help but see myself
Speaker 4: in their position one day, you know, because it's like
Speaker 4: right now, I'm still healthy and able, you know, like
Speaker 4: you know, certain asterisks aside, you know, but like there's
Speaker 4: it's just it's just kind of like right now, you know,
Speaker 4: Like when I was younger, you know, like I kind
Speaker 4: of felt like I was more made of rubber, and
Speaker 4: like I can do more things. And you know, like
Speaker 4: if I like hurt myself for example, that like I
Speaker 4: can just get up and go right away. But like
Speaker 4: as you like as your body like ages, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's just it's a very it's a very hard thing.
Speaker 4: Like I don't I don't want to get too graphic
Speaker 4: or nothing. But I had a I had a client
Speaker 4: who had a catheter put in like a fully cafeter
Speaker 4: and and that's the one that like goes that goes
Speaker 4: up your gary thrun and uh, he like he like
Speaker 4: he he doesn't understand what he doesn't even he barely
Speaker 4: even remembers when he had for breakfast that day, let alone.
Speaker 4: But a fully ca after is going to do so
Speaker 4: like we and he's hard of hearing too, so we
Speaker 4: have to like explain a couple. It's it's kind of
Speaker 4: like talking to like a kind of like a ten
Speaker 4: year old, you know, like you don't have to talk
Speaker 4: to them like their children. You don't have to condescend
Speaker 4: to them, but like you kind of have to like
Speaker 4: more or less get on their level, you know. And
Speaker 4: and I and he didn't understand what was going on,
Speaker 4: so like as as the nurses they're doing her thing.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm holding his hand and and he's like, you know,
Speaker 4: when he winces, I'm squeezing his hand. And you know,
Speaker 4: it's a very like a very intimate thing for us to.
Speaker 1: Be doing, right right, I mean, this guy is getting
Speaker 1: a tube stuck in his penis and he doesn't even
Speaker 1: really know.
Speaker 4: No, no, he he he he thinks. Yeah, he thinks
Speaker 4: that there's a problem with the plumbing. But and the
Speaker 4: worst part of it, it really is, is he he
Speaker 4: doesn't know that it's not supposed to come out, so
Speaker 4: he he wants to keep tugging on it and it's
Speaker 4: not and yeah, and it's not. Yeah, it's not the best.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I haven't had a cafeter
Speaker 4: put in lately, but I don't imagine it like being
Speaker 4: too Like in today too, he was just he was
Speaker 4: very like he kind of was just uncomfortable and he
Speaker 4: was hurting something in fierce today. And you know, and
Speaker 4: the agent experience isn't like that for everybody, but it's truly,
Speaker 4: like like truly it's it's truly something. It's like it's like.
Speaker 6: Mind opening to you know, see, like you know, kind
Speaker 6: of because the reason why I became a caregiver to
Speaker 6: begin with is because I wanted to become the mortician,
Speaker 6: and I wanted to kind of work with folks on
Speaker 6: this side of it before I go on the other
Speaker 6: side of it, and.
Speaker 4: So I wanted to kind of see kind of wanted
Speaker 4: to see what they were going through, and I can.
Speaker 4: It's like, historically speaking, the job that I work, it's
Speaker 4: been kind of seen as like, you know, babysitting, and
Speaker 4: it doesn't have really a whole lot of the respects
Speaker 4: that it deserves. You know, a lot of folks think
Speaker 4: we're just babysitters, and that's far far not the case.
Speaker 4: Like I I just my union sent me down to
Speaker 4: Georgia not too long ago, and the minimum wage for
Speaker 4: a healthcare worker like me was only five fifteen an hour.
Speaker 1: Five dollars and fifteen cents. Correct, there's a five dollars
Speaker 1: minimum wage in Atlanta, I mean in Georgia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're one of the few states in the
Speaker 4: country right now. I think there's a couple of others
Speaker 4: who escaped me right now, but Georgia is definitely one
Speaker 4: of the states that pay below the federal minimum wage.
Speaker 4: So I was hearing stories. I was hearing stories of
Speaker 4: folks who were working like two or three or four jobs.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's still not being able to pay their bills
Speaker 4: and like being financially unable to provide care for their
Speaker 4: loved ones, you know, and it's it's crazy. It's really
Speaker 4: like soul crushing, which is why, like I'm really like
Speaker 4: this is why, like I like, joining the union was
Speaker 4: the best decision that I've ever made.
Speaker 1: So tell me, when you're in the room with the
Speaker 1: guy get in the tube of his penis, uh, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't even know what's going on, what are you
Speaker 1: feeling in that moment?
Speaker 7: Or like.
Speaker 1: Do you feel removed from the situation because you're there
Speaker 1: very much doing a professional job and so you're almost
Speaker 1: emotionally taken out of it maybe in that sense, or
Speaker 1: or are you fully there? Like tell me how you're
Speaker 1: experiencing it?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I do got to say that, like
Speaker 4: I had, I had to make a phone call to
Speaker 4: my folks after the day was over and tell them
Speaker 4: that I'm thankful for certain decisions they made when I
Speaker 4: was a child. Because, uh, the catheter my client wasn't circumcised,
Speaker 4: So like we had trouble finding his urethra, and what
Speaker 4: I what I was feeling was I'm trying to I
Speaker 4: don't want to, like I have an emotional stake in this,
Speaker 4: because you know, I want it. You know, if I'm
Speaker 4: ever in a position where someone has to take care
Speaker 4: of me, and I want someone who's gonna want who's present,
Speaker 4: you know, who's like, who cares about what's happening to me.
Speaker 4: You know. So I wanted to, like I wanted to
Speaker 4: put a brave face on to him, But at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, it's just, you know, I have
Speaker 4: to like avoid staring at the old man wiener mm.
Speaker 4: But you know, I feel like.
Speaker 1: That's not a difficult thing to avoid staring at.
Speaker 4: No. I mean, like it's it's kind of it's not
Speaker 4: that hard. It's like you kind of look off into
Speaker 4: the middle distance and you think about your life for
Speaker 4: a little while, and you think you're gonna be doing
Speaker 4: this for forty years, and and by the time that's
Speaker 4: all over west, you kind of like have to like, okay,
Speaker 4: back to you know. There's a lot of times where
Speaker 4: like like it's just there's a lot I have to
Speaker 4: have a lot of like I don't want to say
Speaker 4: necessarily say cognitive dissidence. But there are times where like
Speaker 4: I kind of have to like like I like because
Speaker 4: I also do like kind of like light housework too,
Speaker 4: so like sometimes I'm just sweeping or moping or something,
Speaker 4: I kind of just like I kind of zone out,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: But Okay, yes, I would that that that that that's
Speaker 1: kind of what I was referring to, is like you're
Speaker 1: doing your best to be present because it's important to you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you would be doing this
Speaker 1: shit if it wasn't something you really cared about. It
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like something I just got into to make
Speaker 1: a check. So yes, you want to be present, but
Speaker 1: I think that obviously with something like that, if you were,
Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't be atrocious to me for you
Speaker 1: to have to employ some dissonance every once in a
Speaker 1: while just to keep yourself sane, you know what I'm saying, just,
Speaker 1: oh God, just to keep yourself from burning out. So
Speaker 1: tell me this, how much longer do you yourself doing
Speaker 1: this for? Are you hoping to have a you know,
Speaker 1: lifelong career as a as a caregiver? Like what do
Speaker 1: you see in your horizons?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm still I see myself doing this for at
Speaker 4: least the next like a couple of years, like two
Speaker 4: three years. My ultimate goal is I want, like I
Speaker 4: was I was saying earlier, i worked pretty regular with
Speaker 4: my union, So I'm hoping to transitions from the field
Speaker 4: as they call it, to more of like a staff
Speaker 4: position with my union, because right now it's kind I'm
Speaker 4: kind of working like that. I do kind of both,
Speaker 4: you know, Like right now, I do the caregiving and
Speaker 4: then on certain days I do like training orientations for
Speaker 4: other caregivers who are first kind of you know, the
Speaker 4: orientation training for them, and I'm hoping to do like
Speaker 4: actually I have an internship up coming up with them
Speaker 4: at the start of next year, and they'll I'll have
Speaker 4: to take like a leave of absence and and like
Speaker 4: hopefully like that kind of takes me a little further.
Speaker 4: But because it's like it is, my clients vary like
Speaker 4: the hours area between them, so I only think if
Speaker 4: I only have one client and a week, they only
Speaker 4: have so many hours, and I only work those so
Speaker 4: many hours. So with with if I have a staff position,
Speaker 4: I'll have a forty hour basically a guaranteed forty hour
Speaker 4: work week plus, and like I get to complain about
Speaker 4: capitalism and get paid for it, so I can't rich
Speaker 4: me that. Do you.
Speaker 1: Feel like you on a daily basis have a better
Speaker 1: like you're more in touch with what life is going
Speaker 1: to be like when you're old, And then does that
Speaker 1: influence your actions, like when you are around so much
Speaker 1: aging and death, you know, in your daily life, does
Speaker 1: it compel you to be Like, Listen, one day, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy in a bed getting a tube
Speaker 1: up his penis that doesn't have any fucking idea what's
Speaker 1: going on, So fuck it, I'm gonna go do this
Speaker 1: thing I want to do or that thing I want
Speaker 1: to do. Like, does that closeness with your fate all
Speaker 1: of our fates compel you in any direction in your
Speaker 1: day to day life.
Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely I'm more conscious of like like
Speaker 4: my diet and like like kind of like on the
Speaker 4: daily day to day like like I'm a little more
Speaker 4: careful with like my health, I guess in that respect,
Speaker 4: but like at the end of the day, I still
Speaker 4: have a life to live, you know, and like I've
Speaker 4: always kind of maintained that, you know, like life is
Speaker 4: too long and too short to really not that you
Speaker 4: shouldn't worry about consequences, of course, but I mean like
Speaker 4: you're like you only have today, so it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: I I don't like there's a Africa who who actually
Speaker 4: said this quote, But I've always kind of lived by
Speaker 4: the philosophy of the philosophy up I'd rather be seventy
Speaker 4: seven and dead and have like a lot of good
Speaker 4: life experiences. And I've over being like one hundred and
Speaker 4: twelve and bored and talking about the weather. So it's
Speaker 4: like I want to have those life experiences. Like I'm
Speaker 4: already like as a caregiver, I'm kind of already planning
Speaker 4: because you know, like with the folks who have like
Speaker 4: all Clammer's and dementia, they remember core memories more so
Speaker 4: than like kind of like.
Speaker 1: Also, I feel like one hundred and twelve, you're probably
Speaker 1: getting like double penetrated by needles in the penis at
Speaker 1: that point. I'm sure you have like, oh, you're at
Speaker 1: least four different in every hole in your body by
Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve.
Speaker 4: I mean like it's like if you're eating McDonald's every
Speaker 4: day and like kind of just putting garbage into your
Speaker 4: body that is more than likely, like you know, like
Speaker 4: it's like it's the biomechanics of your particular physiology put
Speaker 4: you in that position. Uh, I mean, like if you're
Speaker 4: working out and you're doing like you're I don't want
Speaker 4: to sound like a like a health nut or nothing,
Speaker 4: but I do know.
Speaker 1: Well, Reese, Reese, I was gonna go to McDonald's after this,
Speaker 1: but after hearing about all of this, nou totally. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: you've definitely can price. Reese. Man, Listen, you're doing a
Speaker 1: great thing. I'm sorry to hear that fucking minimum wage
Speaker 1: for this is like five dollars. That's crazy to me.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I mean for.
Speaker 1: You know, I yeah, well you work out of Illinois.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the minimum wage in Illinois for for someone in
Speaker 4: my position is fifteen dollars an hour, which is why
Speaker 4: I yes, I agree. Like our our jobs kind of
Speaker 4: we're like one step below a CNA. We do pretty
Speaker 4: much all we don't do any of like the medical stuff,
Speaker 4: but we do pretty much all the heavy lifting. And
Speaker 4: like our job, like we at very minimum deserve thirty
Speaker 4: dollars an hour and like and then you know, going
Speaker 4: up from there, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Reese is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 4: I just hope anyone that is in the vicinity of
Speaker 4: our voices, I hope they consider joining a union, because
Speaker 4: in any states that are right to work states, you're
Speaker 4: guaranteed to make less money because of corporate greed. And
Speaker 4: by joining a union, uh, you you put a stop
Speaker 4: to the organized banditry of the working class. But with
Speaker 4: the force of organized labor, and I couldn't do I
Speaker 4: couldn't do what I'm doing without the union. So that's
Speaker 4: that's my soapbox.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much for all of your hard work. Race.
Speaker 1: You have a good rest of the day.
Speaker 4: Likewise, thank you, thank you for all your hard work.
Speaker 4: While and I I'm trying man, remember it's life is
Speaker 4: is not a narrative. It's a series of poems.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'm going to think about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it keeps me going.
Speaker 1: Take care of rees.
Speaker 4: Yeah, have a good rest of your night. Man.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 1: I want to join in the UH. I guess I
Speaker 1: have to start the therapy Gecko Union. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many other people there are that UH dress up
Speaker 1: as a gecko and UH talk to people on the phone,
Speaker 1: but maybe I should find However, many other people that
Speaker 1: exist in the world that do it and ask for
Speaker 1: more money. God damn it, we need more money to
Speaker 1: buy more candy. Actually, I feel like i'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: off a candy now thanks to Reese. He convinced me otherwise,
Speaker 1: I like Raece. Reese was a good guy. Had was
Speaker 1: like a very very pure intentions with his life. Nice
Speaker 1: of him to help folks. You know, it's hard. It's
Speaker 1: hard when you wanna do a thing not for money
Speaker 1: and just because you feel compelled to it, and then
Speaker 1: you're rewarded with that with not a lot of money.
Speaker 1: But uh, I'm glad to hear that the Union has
Speaker 1: been been good for Reese. He was talking about a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff about capitalism and everything, and I
Speaker 1: don't I'm stupid. I don't read any books, and I
Speaker 1: don't look at the you know, I don't look at
Speaker 1: books and stuff, so I don't know what is going on.
Speaker 1: But I hope he fixes whatever bad thing is going
Speaker 1: on in that realm, and I trust him to do
Speaker 1: so because because I don't know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't think I can do it
Speaker 1: join the Therapy Goto Union. Hello? Hello, what's up? How's
Speaker 1: it going?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: It's going all right?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: How's it going?
Speaker 7: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Deck?
Speaker 7: I just jumped on the stream while ago and got
Speaker 7: lucky enough to get on. I caught in so many
Speaker 7: times many Mmm, I'm kind of nervous.
Speaker 1: No, don't be nervous. Don't be nervous where I don't
Speaker 1: even know what we're doing here either? What's up? What's up? Man?
Speaker 1: How can I? How can I get you to the.
Speaker 4: Uh? So?
Speaker 7: I have some odd fetishes that I I can't I
Speaker 7: just I can't come to accept them. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Okay, what are the fetishes?
Speaker 3: I like?
Speaker 7: Like cooking?
Speaker 1: You know what is tucking?
Speaker 7: It's like, oh god, damn.
Speaker 1: It's tucking like what Buffalo Bill does in that one
Speaker 1: movie where you take your balls and penis and you
Speaker 1: tuck it behind your thighs.
Speaker 7: No, I'm not into that specifically, but I've never seen
Speaker 7: Buffalo Bills. I'm not really Wait a.
Speaker 1: Minute, are you saying tucking or cooking?
Speaker 7: Cooking?
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, it's just okay. The call screener wrote, tucking.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's why she said it. Wasn't that weird?
Speaker 1: Okay? Are you so? You're not? So you're not into tucking.
Speaker 7: I'm not into tucking.
Speaker 1: No. And I'll say this, I think Buffalo Bill was
Speaker 1: a weird guy, but not because of that. I don't
Speaker 1: think that factored into his I think the murdering of
Speaker 1: people he was a cannibal. Yeah, I think the murdering
Speaker 1: and eating of people made him a weird guy. But
Speaker 1: if it was just the tucking, you know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that anyway. Okay, So you like cooking, you
Speaker 1: like being cooked?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Well what do you like about it?
Speaker 7: Oh? I don't know, man, it just it's says like
Speaker 7: the sexual I don't know, it just gets me going,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying? Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 7: I think it's it stems from a weird place certainly.
Speaker 1: So just for those who don't know cooking, I'm clearing
Speaker 1: up the tucking cooking thing, tucking and cocking. What if
Speaker 1: you tucked and then got coocked? That would be crazy,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 7: That would be crazy and probably actually you know, erotic, No,
Speaker 7: no extra erotic.
Speaker 1: I agree that could be a new thing for you.
Speaker 1: Should try that next time you're getting cooked. Okay, cooking
Speaker 1: I've never done it? Is your in is when you
Speaker 1: ever when you're in a relationship with someone and you
Speaker 1: like to watch them have sex with other people? Correct?
Speaker 7: Basically, yes, that's okay, a lot of variations, but that's
Speaker 7: that's certainly which.
Speaker 1: Would tell me which variation you're the most into?
Speaker 7: Honestly, a little bit of all of it. I don't know,
Speaker 7: Like I said, I can't. It's so hard to just
Speaker 7: sit here and talk about I've never told anybody about it.
Speaker 1: M hm mm hmm. And then again, go ahead, okay,
Speaker 1: so you said there's a lot of variations of it.
Speaker 1: Describe to me which scenario, like, what variation of it
Speaker 1: is the your dream? One? Like you have a girlfriend
Speaker 1: and she, you know, brings home a guy and she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fuck you and I'm gonna fuck this
Speaker 1: guy and the whole time she's like fuck you. You
Speaker 1: like she like, she's like being rude to you and
Speaker 1: then good to this guy, and that's turning you on?
Speaker 1: Is that the kind of scenario that you're in? Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So why is it? Well, okay, so to stay with me, Okay,
Speaker 1: why do you think it's fucked up.
Speaker 7: I don't it's I don't know. I guess it's just
Speaker 7: it's just degrading. And it's like I guess also, you know,
Speaker 7: it was kind of always taught that's not the way
Speaker 7: to be. Do you feel me it is? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Live in the South, so it's like it's a very
Speaker 7: look down upon thing. It's like a taboo damn there.
Speaker 7: And and then that might add to the factor too,
Speaker 7: that it's like a taboo, you know. H But I'm not.
Speaker 1: Sure the fact that it's a taboo is making it
Speaker 1: even hotter.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe, I think maybe so. I think that's
Speaker 7: part of it. But the degradation part, the degradation part,
Speaker 7: that's definitely a big part of it too, you know.
Speaker 7: But but then again, that's like, like I said, I
Speaker 7: think it stems from somewhere, and I kind of know
Speaker 7: where it comes from, but it's just like I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me where you kind of think it comes from.
Speaker 7: I think from how I was treated when I was young.
Speaker 1: Probably, Okay, how were you treated with and how you
Speaker 1: feel like talking?
Speaker 3: Do what now?
Speaker 1: I said, how are you if you were comfortable with
Speaker 1: telling us how were you treated when you were young
Speaker 1: that you feel like is related to this?
Speaker 7: Just very degrading, you know what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 7: it wasn't so much physical. It's very I guess like
Speaker 7: emotional or kind of verbal, you know, if that makes
Speaker 7: any sense.
Speaker 1: And so your parents were verbally degrading to you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's almost like I kind of
Speaker 7: it like brings back some feeling from when I was young.
Speaker 4: It's so weird.
Speaker 7: It's very strange when when I think about it, because
Speaker 7: I guess I've never done it and maybe I couldn't
Speaker 7: handle it. But then again, I'm afraid it's gonna, you know,
Speaker 7: kind of affect the way I can make relationships going forward.
Speaker 7: And I'm not making very many relationships you know, in
Speaker 7: general friends there like platonic or you know whatever, romantic
Speaker 7: mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Do you watch like cock porn?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Sometimes? Actually yeah I do.
Speaker 3: I just do.
Speaker 1: Well. I think the shame, I mean, this is how
Speaker 1: you feel, this is it? This is Yeah, Well, you're
Speaker 1: telling me the truth right now.
Speaker 7: One hundred. I'm not I would not lie to you.
Speaker 7: I actually watched the stream the other day with like
Speaker 7: some dude did it and he wouldn't go through with it,
Speaker 7: and you were talking about that. It's from from a
Speaker 7: minute ago. But no, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: Gack.
Speaker 1: I really no, no, no, you you know you're you're here.
Speaker 1: You're hearing me wrong right now. I'm not asking you
Speaker 1: that you're telling you. I'm restating the fact that you're
Speaker 1: telling the truth. Okay, Yeah, yeah, I'm not questioning you.
Speaker 1: I know you're telling the truth.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: And you're ashamed of the truth.
Speaker 7: A hundred are you?
Speaker 1: Are you ashamed of the truth for a good reason?
Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, Like I said, I don't
Speaker 7: know if it's like it's just I can't come to
Speaker 7: accept it. I don't know if it's like you know,
Speaker 7: it's like those weird emotions stemming from how I was
Speaker 7: kind of degraded. But I was expected to be this
Speaker 7: certain thing, you know, I kind of uh, you know
Speaker 7: what a what a man is.
Speaker 1: Supposed to be?
Speaker 7: You feel you know what I'm saying? Does that makes sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can I answer you something? Yeah?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: How do just how do you feel right now being
Speaker 1: on the phone and talking to me about it?
Speaker 7: A bit, a bit terrified? If I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 7: with you. It's just and I'm anonymous, Like you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. I know nobody knows. It's just talking
Speaker 7: to you, and you've talked about some pretty fucked up shit.
Speaker 7: You know, it's still it's like, wow, it's still I'm
Speaker 7: still trying to get over it. But it's just like
Speaker 7: saying out loud, you know.
Speaker 1: Do you? I mean, does any part of you feel
Speaker 1: relieved to talk about it?
Speaker 7: I definitely feel it's nice. It definitely has nice talking
Speaker 7: about it, just because I've been able to say it.
Speaker 7: You know, I don't tell anybody. I have people that
Speaker 7: are really close to it. I just don't talk about it. Plus,
Speaker 7: it's like I hear a lot of people I'm close
Speaker 7: to kind of talking about how it's you know, and
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know how to explain I
Speaker 7: don't how to explain it.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, all right, were you
Speaker 1: about to say that you feel people around you talking
Speaker 1: about how it's weird or talking about yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: I don't know how to explain it. Should they just
Speaker 7: talk about how it's it's weird?
Speaker 3: Or it's like who the fuck would do that?
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying stuff like that. M Well,
Speaker 7: they make fun of the idea, and I'm like, I
Speaker 7: get it. I get it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I get where they're coming from because I have the
Speaker 7: same emotions toward it, even though I'm into it, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, But yeah, but can we But just I want
Speaker 1: to like challenge for a second the emotions that you
Speaker 1: have to it, that you've picked up from your friends,
Speaker 1: because what really is behind those emotions? Like, like, tell
Speaker 1: me what, tell me in your words, how you think
Speaker 1: your friends view this.
Speaker 7: It's it's not just my friends either, but it's family.
Speaker 7: It's all that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a culture. Yes, it's used as an insult,
Speaker 1: being a cock. There is a cultural, societal whatever thing
Speaker 1: about it. And and what what is the origin of
Speaker 1: what is your view of that perspective? What is your
Speaker 1: explanation of that perspective?
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know where it comes from, but
Speaker 7: I just know that it's it's it's what I've I
Speaker 7: guess I've always heard coming coming up, you know, just
Speaker 7: growing up and stuff. That's just how how people view it.
Speaker 7: You know, it's very But.
Speaker 1: No, when I'm asking I'm not asking you where that
Speaker 1: perspective comes from, Like what is it? Like? What what
Speaker 1: is your friend's perspective on being a.
Speaker 7: Cut Oh, they think that, you know the same. It's
Speaker 7: just it's disgusting, It's it's weird. It's all that ship.
Speaker 7: You know, they think that. That's what they think about it.
Speaker 7: You know, hear them talk about that sort of shit sometimes.
Speaker 1: Okay, so real quick, what let's go into why Why
Speaker 1: is it weird? Why is it disgusting?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I guess it's it's uh, you know, I don't fuck
Speaker 7: I don't know. I guess it's because you're I guess
Speaker 7: I just supposed to be a not submissive or some
Speaker 7: shit like that. Now, I don't really buy into that
Speaker 7: sort of shit.
Speaker 1: Because there is no real fucking reason as to why
Speaker 1: it's weird. As opposed, and that perspective that your friend
Speaker 1: has is built on a faulty foundation. It's built on nothing.
Speaker 1: It's built on a societal perception of how you, as
Speaker 1: a guy, are supposed to be, and that perception was
Speaker 1: also built off of absolutely nothing. And the truth is
Speaker 1: that you feel how you feel, and you're really not
Speaker 1: hurting anybody, and you're really not doing anything malicious. And
Speaker 1: all that really matters is is this thing in any
Speaker 1: way negatively impacting your life? And I don't know the
Speaker 1: answer to that.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I suppose it's not negatively affecting my life.
Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm not. I don't really have any
Speaker 7: sort of relationship right now, so it's nothing I like
Speaker 7: I said, I haven't tried it yet. But I mean
Speaker 7: it's I don't know, it's like a I don't know,
Speaker 7: it's a bit of I don't want to say addictive.
Speaker 7: I guess it's not just that, but it's like I
Speaker 7: don't know, I'm I can't get away from the idea.
Speaker 7: It's it's just always in my pops in my head
Speaker 7: at weird times and.
Speaker 1: Ship James, listen, if I can tell you this that
Speaker 1: your friends or your family or the people around you
Speaker 1: and your community, the weirdness, it's it's not based off
Speaker 1: of anything real, So don't listen to it. Cut cut
Speaker 1: all the other people's perceptions of you and what you're
Speaker 1: into and and whatnot. Just cut it out because it's
Speaker 1: not important. And all that's really important is how you
Speaker 1: feel about you and how you feel about these things.
Speaker 1: And I hope that the way you feel about things
Speaker 1: is built on a foundation of that really fucking means something,
Speaker 1: because right now you are feeling all this shame that's
Speaker 1: based off of not living up to other people's expectations
Speaker 1: of how a man should be, of how a relationship
Speaker 1: should be, and nobody gets to decide those things. There's
Speaker 1: so much people trying to fucking dictate how other people
Speaker 1: should live, how other people should go about their lives,
Speaker 1: and it's just such a stupid fucking thing, James, and
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be feeling shame about other people's dictations of
Speaker 1: how you should be as a human being.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that, brother, I appreciate it, and I shouldn't.
Speaker 7: And I don't know. Things just I don't know. It's
Speaker 7: like I said, this one is just one I really
Speaker 7: really struggled to just accept.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: And but I think I was sad to hear that
Speaker 1: nobody's told you that.
Speaker 7: I definitely haven't heard that. I appreciate the ship. I
Speaker 7: really do, but it's just it's it's just so hard
Speaker 7: to accept.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you ever been to a real therapist?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said, have you ever been to a
Speaker 1: real therapist.
Speaker 7: I have, but not about this specifically. And there's also.
Speaker 1: Did you intentionally not tell them?
Speaker 7: I mean it's been a while. I mean I did
Speaker 7: have these kind of things, but I just kind of
Speaker 7: just kind of didn't didn't think about it, kind of
Speaker 7: stuffed it down a bit. Had a lot of other well,
Speaker 7: other other issues that kind of affecting me at the
Speaker 7: that that point in time, you know, so we didn't
Speaker 7: really get into that. We talked about the more upfront
Speaker 7: kind of issues, you know, like what I the problems
Speaker 7: I was having right then, or there were more there
Speaker 7: were negatively affecting me worse at the time, you know.
Speaker 7: I mean I could talk about other things too, I
Speaker 7: just that this is just one that I figured, you know,
Speaker 7: I'd rather be a non host to get on about.
Speaker 1: Sure, I think next time, if you do go to therapy,
Speaker 1: I think you should talk about this because hopefully, because
Speaker 1: the thing is if it's something that stemmed from like
Speaker 1: your parents and you need to go in and like
Speaker 1: work through the traumas of the past, I think that's important.
Speaker 1: But as I if you could take anything away from
Speaker 1: this conversation, and again I'm sad to hear that the
Speaker 1: town that you live in and your friends and your
Speaker 1: family are imposing their ideas of how you should be
Speaker 1: upon you. I'm sad to hear that. So if you take,
Speaker 1: if you take anything away from this conversation, I hope
Speaker 1: it's that you don't have to live by that. Do
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 7: I think I think, yeah, I'll take that with me.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that. I really do. It makes me feel
Speaker 7: a lot better.
Speaker 1: Don okay, please do please don't. I could say like
Speaker 1: more words now, but I'd rather you just like focus
Speaker 1: on that and think about that every day, that you
Speaker 1: you don't have to live by these people in your
Speaker 1: small towns ideas of what is and is not weird
Speaker 1: and acceptable. And you're a young dude. You said you're nineteen.
Speaker 1: The faster you focus on abandoning those, the quicker you
Speaker 1: will live a much nicer life for yourself. So I
Speaker 1: hope you do.
Speaker 7: Absolutely not try. I really appreciate it, Like I said,
Speaker 7: like I never do, never talked about it. That this
Speaker 7: helps so much. I appreciate you guy.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad to hear that. I'm glad that you
Speaker 1: were courageous enough to share this stuff. And I hope
Speaker 1: you are more comfortable with it in the future. Is
Speaker 1: there anything else that you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 7: James, No other than I appreciate it. Shut out of you.
Speaker 7: James isn't my name, actually, but thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Greg.
Speaker 7: You have a great night, brother. I appreciate you movie.
Speaker 1: Take care. Fuck man ah man, I fucking I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what it is. Maybe this sounds douchey, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it because I've been thinking about it
Speaker 1: in my little internet therapy Gecko worlds, and also my
Speaker 1: parents and my friends. They're all everyone in that sphere
Speaker 1: is very they are. They're open minded people, and I'm
Speaker 1: really grateful and lucky for that. And I think with
Speaker 1: calls like the one I just had, they keme into
Speaker 1: remembering like, oh, fuck, you know, there's folks like James
Speaker 1: who are not as lucky to have the de facto
Speaker 1: sentiment around them be as supportive, and it keys me
Speaker 1: into that, and I hope, because I don't know, sometimes
Speaker 1: I say all the cliche hippie shit of like, well,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be so invested in other people's
Speaker 1: opinions of you, and blah blah blah, And I think
Speaker 1: I'm so engulfed in my own sphere being very supportive
Speaker 1: that in my head I'm like, well, everyone already knows that,
Speaker 1: don't they. And then I, you know, get a call
Speaker 1: like that where I'm like, oh, fuck, there's folks like
Speaker 1: James who live in who in their own spheres, the
Speaker 1: de facto sentiment is not open minded and supportive, and
Speaker 1: that fucking makes me sad. So I hope, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I really do. I hope uh that he does take
Speaker 1: that ship to heart and think about it. I've been
Speaker 1: asked before. I have the friends, and he asked me.
Speaker 1: He was like, do you really care about helping people?
Speaker 1: Because I don't. It's a complex as a that's a
Speaker 1: complicated answer to that question. And here's what I think
Speaker 1: in that moment. Over the course of that phone call,
Speaker 1: I really wasn't gay. I was like, I really want
Speaker 1: to help this guy. But when I get off of this,
Speaker 1: when I hit when I stop recording, I'll probably never
Speaker 1: think about him again. That's kind of where I land
Speaker 1: about on that. It's like, in the moment that I'm
Speaker 1: on the phone with this guy, it's like, really important
Speaker 1: to me, and then that's all I've got, and then
Speaker 1: I can't care outside.
Speaker 4: Of that.
Speaker 1: Because it would be inhuman. I think that's the truth.
Speaker 1: But fuck as I'm talking about, right, I really I
Speaker 1: hope I hope he. I hope he took that ship,
Speaker 1: and I hope that that call helped him. I dude,
Speaker 1: I really do. And you know what, in his honor,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home and watch some cockborn tonight as well.
Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 4: Hayden?
Speaker 1: Hayden? What's going on? Hayden?
Speaker 2: Not a whole lot?
Speaker 3: Am I on?
Speaker 1: Hayden? It says here you wanted to talk about food?
Speaker 2: I do? You sound wildly different on the phone than
Speaker 2: you do in your podcast.
Speaker 1: What kind of food do you want to talk about?
Speaker 3: I wanna?
Speaker 4: I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about, uh, pizza. I have a
Speaker 2: topic about it. I'm very passionate about I want to
Speaker 2: share it with you.
Speaker 1: You you called in to my podcast to talk to
Speaker 1: me about pizza.
Speaker 2: I did, I did, I did?
Speaker 1: Oh. I would love to talk about pizza, so now, please,
Speaker 1: I would love to talk about pizza. What do you
Speaker 1: want to talk what about pizza?
Speaker 2: I want to talk about how triangle cut pizza is
Speaker 2: superior in every way, shape and form compared to square cut.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have my personal thoughts about this, but go
Speaker 1: ahead and tell me what your theory is.
Speaker 2: My biggest thing. Right, Let's say you're at a gathering
Speaker 2: with a very large group of people and they order
Speaker 2: six boxes of pizza and it's all square cut. You're
Speaker 2: one of the first people in there. You don't know
Speaker 2: how many slices to grab, it's impossible, you don't know
Speaker 2: what percentage of pizza to take. It's annoying. But if
Speaker 2: it's triangle cut, you just take two slices and then
Speaker 2: you're done with it. And then like go back when
Speaker 2: to everyone that's gotten their slices, because there's still going
Speaker 2: to be but you start with two and then you
Speaker 2: get more later.
Speaker 1: You know, what you are touching on is the the
Speaker 1: the well known ambiguity of square pizza versus the relative
Speaker 1: certainty of triangle cut pizza, because two slices of triangle
Speaker 1: cut pizza is the generally agreed upon serving size. However,
Speaker 1: there is no widely accepted, generally agreed upon serving size
Speaker 1: for square pizza. That's why whenever I order a square
Speaker 1: pizza I could find myself eating the whole thing. That's
Speaker 1: actually not why I do that, because I I don't
Speaker 1: care about my body. But it's true, you don't really
Speaker 1: know how many size it is to take. You have
Speaker 1: to kind of do It's like the metric system. You
Speaker 1: have to kind of find the equation of how many
Speaker 1: slices of square pizza add up to be a triangle
Speaker 1: cut slice of pizza. Do you have a number for
Speaker 1: that yourself?
Speaker 2: Not personally, because I will typically avoid getting square cut
Speaker 2: pizza whenever I can. The other big thing about it
Speaker 2: is a common argument I gain that oh it's it's nice,
Speaker 2: it's easy to eat, but no it's not. There are
Speaker 2: some like if you're getting maybe Marion's Marian's pizza, the
Speaker 2: little tiny squares over all, right, but most of them
Speaker 2: are not my sized. And I also find what you
Speaker 2: were saying earlier about you just you can it feels
Speaker 2: like you're eating less, so you just eat the whole pizza.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and that's what I was going to say,
Speaker 1: as like a pro but I don't know why that
Speaker 1: like when that When that thought first came to my mind,
Speaker 1: it appeared to me as a as a as a
Speaker 1: positive as to why I prefer score pizza, but now
Speaker 1: now I think it as it is actually a negative.
Speaker 1: I think it's good to know how much you are consuming,
Speaker 1: so I'm on your side.
Speaker 2: I've been very vocal about this with all my friends,
Speaker 2: about arguing about it, and it has definitely come back
Speaker 2: to bite me because in every social gathering that I'm
Speaker 2: a part of where pizza is involved, I am a
Speaker 2: plain cheese guy, love just the classic like just cheap,
Speaker 2: nothing else.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, when you say when you say you bring
Speaker 1: this up into every conversation and it is affected you negatively,
Speaker 1: do you do you think it has anything to do
Speaker 1: with your stance on pizza or do you think it's
Speaker 1: because you don't talk about anything else?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, I talk about other things. But if like
Speaker 2: we ever talk, if we ever get into the food debate.
Speaker 2: I just have like a list of several hot takes
Speaker 2: on different types of food, and this is the most Uh,
Speaker 2: this is the one that gets people the most wild up.
Speaker 2: But every time I'm in a situation where there's pizza
Speaker 2: and a group of my friends, they will exclusively get
Speaker 2: my cheese pizza square cut, and everything else is trying
Speaker 2: to cut. But they do it to fight and I
Speaker 2: and money, but and.
Speaker 1: What do you have? What do you think about what's
Speaker 1: going on with Israel and Palestine?
Speaker 2: Oh? What do I really? Man, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: too sure.
Speaker 1: Watch there's somebody freaking out in the background. Is everything
Speaker 1: okay with with this person?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That that is? That is my fiance. Man, You're not
Speaker 2: gonna believe this. I'm sitting in her and sitting with
Speaker 2: her in labor and delivery. She's not giving birth.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: Your wife is is writhing in pain with contractions? No background? Well,
Speaker 1: you are on the phone with a gecko debating about
Speaker 1: whether or not square cut pizza is better than triangle pizza.
Speaker 2: No, No, she's not giving birth right now. We got
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks until that happens. We're here for
Speaker 2: just a normal checkup. She's talking to me about food
Speaker 2: for McDonald's, which is what we're going to do once
Speaker 2: wee weeks.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm like, your break from having to deal
Speaker 1: with your pregnant wife.
Speaker 2: It's not really a break. No, she's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Let me talk to her real quick.
Speaker 2: You want to talk to her? Yeah, of course she's
Speaker 2: flipping me off. I'm being honest. I don't think she
Speaker 2: wants me to talk.
Speaker 3: She's not.
Speaker 1: No, she's not mad at me. She's mad at you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I feel like I'll die if I give
Speaker 2: you give her this phone. I'll be honest.
Speaker 1: No, trust me, you should. You should give her the phone.
Speaker 2: I should give her the phone.
Speaker 1: You should give her the phone.
Speaker 2: She's giving me that look like I will die if I.
Speaker 4: Give her the phone.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, this is gonna this is going
Speaker 1: to go very well for everyone involved.
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk to the therapy?
Speaker 3: Get go?
Speaker 2: She said no, yeah, I honestly, when I called in,
Speaker 2: I haven't been watching the stream. I just called like
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes before you went live so I
Speaker 2: could get into queue. And I was like, I swear,
Speaker 2: if this is the time that she picks up my call,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be able to take it.
Speaker 2: But no, no, this is fun.
Speaker 1: Hayden, Yeah, go go be with your wife.
Speaker 2: I am with my wife.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 2: Headen, all right, yeah, hight bye.
Speaker 1: Love. A guy who has his priorities in line goes
Speaker 1: on the line taking your phone calls every night, the
Speaker 1: recon goes doing his eye He's teaching
Speaker 3: You aloud in the movie line, but he's not ready
Speaker 3: an expert.