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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: What's your life like?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Right now, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. What's what's good about?

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Speaker 3: It's real life.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I have a new job that I really like.

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Speaker 1: It says here, did you want to talk about shipping

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Speaker 1: in a cup?

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Speaker 3: Yes? So I was working for a company. I won't

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Speaker 3: say their name, but their very big company.

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Speaker 1: Says here, you worked at Ama, and I was.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, that was the company. I was a

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Speaker 3: delivery driver there in Brooklyn, New York, and I had

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Speaker 3: just finished eating McDonald's. I was about maybe three or

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Speaker 3: four minutes into my drive out of McDonald's when the

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Speaker 3: bubbly shit sensation came on. And I was in an

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Speaker 3: area where there was nowhere to go. I was too

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Speaker 3: far from the McDonald's. I was in an apartment complex,

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Speaker 3: and I had no other option but to take the

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Speaker 3: McDonald's cup and fill it to the brim with hot diarrhea.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you park and go inside the McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: I was too far from the McDonald's I had left.

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Speaker 3: I was maybe four or five minutes away. I attempted

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Speaker 3: to make a delivery, and then as I was walking

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Speaker 3: to the apartment building, I felt it and I panicked.

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Speaker 3: I ran back to the truck, and it was either

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Speaker 3: shit in the coup or shit in my pants.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, and I want you

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Speaker 1: to answer this honestly to your feelings. Sure, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's the whole thing with Amazon about like people are

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Speaker 1: working in the warehouses and like like they have to

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Speaker 1: pee in bottles so bad. And I want to know,

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Speaker 1: is you sitting in a McDonald's cup in your truck?

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Speaker 1: Is that a statement on capitalism? Or is that is

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Speaker 1: that just you shitting in McDonald's cup in your truck.

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Speaker 3: Well, all right, so I don't blame McDonald I would say,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't blame McDonald's more than I blame Amazon. I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: what what option could they give me as a driver?

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Speaker 3: Now I'm not I never worked in the warehouse, so

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Speaker 3: I can't vouch for the warehouse people. But in a truck,

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Speaker 3: there's no clear cut option. Like I could go to

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Speaker 3: I could try to be preemptive and poop before I

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Speaker 3: get in the truck, you know, or but sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: just do or die, you know.

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Speaker 1: So it's a statement on capitalism, but not on behalf

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Speaker 1: of Amazon. It's on behalf of McDonald's there to blame

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Speaker 1: for giving you the diarrhea in the.

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Speaker 3: Now, well, I don't want to blame McDonald's either, because

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Speaker 3: I knew what I was getting into you. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know it was going to come on that quick.

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Speaker 1: But the diarrhea is you know, you don't make it.

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Speaker 1: You don't make responsibility.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you don't make the decision to go to McDonald's

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Speaker 3: and be like, this is a healthy life choice. You know.

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Speaker 3: It was just I was hungry. I knew I was

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Speaker 3: going to pay for it at some point. I just

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Speaker 3: didn't know it was going to be that quick.

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Speaker 1: Okay, final question, how much of the diary? This is

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Speaker 1: another thing I need to be honest with you about it.

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Speaker 1: How much of the diarrhea? What percentage got into the cup?

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Speaker 3: All of it? I I it was. It was cup

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Speaker 3: to asshole like I didn't. It was no room for

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Speaker 3: error there. My whole worry was that I was going

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Speaker 3: to overfill the cup, and luckily I didn't. But there

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Speaker 3: was no cleanup. You know, I'm very I'm very good

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Speaker 3: you know with physics. I think you took.

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Speaker 1: A clean one hundred percent diary is sure liquid? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: into a ye like however many inch.

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Speaker 3: It was like a large It was like a large size.

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Speaker 3: It was a large McDonald's cup. It was I had

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Speaker 3: a big doctor pepper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you put that whole thing in your asshole.

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Speaker 3: No, no, it wasn't in my asshole. I didn't like

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Speaker 3: put it in my asshole. I put the cup around

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Speaker 3: my asshole, like my asshole was like at the center

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Speaker 3: of the cup, and it was like I would say,

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Speaker 3: air tight to my budgets. It was not really any

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Speaker 3: area for splashage except onto my e But your.

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Speaker 1: Cheeks had to open up for the diarrhea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have I have a I don't have a

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Speaker 3: media ass. I have a very flat ass.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: Like Hank Hill. Almost it hurts my back.

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Speaker 1: How did uh? How did you wipe afterwards?

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Speaker 3: I have, like I have tissues in my bag for

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Speaker 3: like my nose and stuff, and I used plenty of

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Speaker 3: those for my bud Did.

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Speaker 1: You put those in the cup when you were done

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Speaker 1: with them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all all poop stuff went into the cup and

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Speaker 3: then it went into the garbage. I had to drive

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Speaker 3: down to the block with it.

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Speaker 1: What percentage of the question, What percentage of the cup

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Speaker 1: was filled with diarrhea.

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Speaker 3: I would say, like ninety percent of the cup was full.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I was very scared of the cup.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot of shit.

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Speaker 1: You had a ten percent margin of error.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was sweling.

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Speaker 1: That's damn you really? This is like you pulled this off?

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Speaker 3: Yeah I did. I'm it's gross, but like, I'm very

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Speaker 3: proud of my execution.

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Speaker 1: Did you take a picture of the cup afterwards?

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Speaker 3: I did? Did I wait, did I send you a

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Speaker 3: picture of the cup I'm talking about? I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think I took a picture.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: I called my wife immediately.

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Speaker 1: It's my background, your wife you called? What did you

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Speaker 1: call your wife.

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Speaker 3: For to tell her that I I took the dirhea

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Speaker 3: and a cup successfully?

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Speaker 1: Can I talk to your wife? Like real quick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, okay?

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's your name?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: My name's Lisa, Lisa.

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction when your husband called you to

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Speaker 1: brag about diarrhea and a McDonald's cup?

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Speaker 5: Can I can I just preface this with something. I

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Speaker 5: just want you to know that we were actually just

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Speaker 5: at your show in Denver, and my husband was too

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Speaker 5: afraid to get on the stage and talk to you,

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Speaker 5: So I made him call you and.

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Speaker 1: Tell you, see, this would have this would have been

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Speaker 1: great on the stage. No, because here's the thing. If

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Speaker 1: he had actually, if he had gone on the stage

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Speaker 1: for this, I would have we would have paused the show.

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Speaker 1: I would have gotten a cup, and I would have

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Speaker 1: made him prove that he can do this on stage.

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Speaker 1: So it's good that he didn't because he would have

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Speaker 5: He probably he probably could have shipped on command.

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Speaker 1: Also, so all right, he's got to come back next year.

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Speaker 1: How did you respond when he called you to brag

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if I'm not sure it was a brag.

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Speaker 3: If I'm being honest, I.

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Speaker 4: Think he was. I think he was pretty him back.

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Speaker 1: But was I surprised that what he said to me

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Speaker 1: that wasn't what he said to me. He didn't say

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Speaker 1: he called you because he was embarrassed. He said he

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Speaker 1: was proud. Do you hear him say that?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 5: Maybe did you say you were proud?

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Speaker 4: He's probably now it took him. That was probably like

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Speaker 4: a year ago. He said, Uh, he wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Proud in the moment, but he's definitely proud now.

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Speaker 4: I think when he called me it was.

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Speaker 5: Just like, it's definitely an accomplishment.

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Speaker 4: I would say, ah, but I think he.

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Speaker 5: I think he was not proud. I don't even remember

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Speaker 5: the phone call.

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Speaker 1: But you're you're a good wife.

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Speaker 3: I am a good wife.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, you're a good get Go.

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Speaker 1: Let me talk to your husband again real quick before we.

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Speaker 5: Before we go, okay, tata yah.

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Speaker 1: Billy, is there anything you want to say to other

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Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Uh yeah, just you know, keep the cup tight,

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Speaker 3: don't leave room for ayer.

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Speaker 1: You have a good life, Billy. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Kay, I appreciate you very much.

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Speaker 1: Have a good time. Man be too, dude, there's no

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Speaker 1: way he didn't get at least a little bit of

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Speaker 1: diarrhea on the truck one hundred. He'd better come back

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Speaker 1: to Denver next year because I'm pulling him up on

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Speaker 1: stage to prove it. What's up. How's it going?

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Speaker 4: Oh it's uh, it's going pretty well. I can't complain.

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Speaker 4: Just uh, putting one foot in front of the other.

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Speaker 1: That's uh, that's great. What's what's going on with you?

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Speaker 4: Oh? You know, I'm just hanging out after I just

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Speaker 4: had a union meeting. Not too long ago. So I, uh,

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Speaker 4: I'm just chilling sitting at home, you know, waiting to

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Speaker 1: So, Reese, what is it that you called in to

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Speaker 4: So I called Uh, I was talking about I told

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Speaker 4: the call screamers that I wanted to talk about being

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Speaker 4: kind of It's given me a.

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Speaker 2: Different perspective on a.

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Speaker 4: Kind of just on the aging process as a whole.

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Speaker 1: I guess you know who, Yeah, tell me, who are

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Speaker 4: I'm giving care to like folks who like elderly folk

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Speaker 4: who have like like dementia, Parkinson's, you know, like kind

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Speaker 4: of like you know that that those like later stages

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Speaker 1: M hmmm. So it says here and this was the

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Speaker 1: part of this that caught my eye, that you deal

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just kind of it kind of.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I personally haven't had anyone pass away, but

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Speaker 1: Okay, And So what kind of perspective has it given

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Speaker 1: you on aging? As you said, Well, you know, I.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm only twenty five, so I'm I'm still

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Speaker 4: just a wee lad in the grander scheme of things,

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Speaker 4: you know. But I know that I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: I'm only as young as I am, you know right

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Speaker 4: now as we're talking, you know, so and and some

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Speaker 4: of the folks that have you know that I had

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Speaker 4: his clients, they're you know, they're anywhere between like sixty

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Speaker 4: and they're kind of on their last legs, so to speaking.

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Speaker 4: Like by one client that I have, he's he's a

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Speaker 4: he's a very sweet guy, but he's got he's got

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Speaker 4: all he's got a lot going on, and he like

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Speaker 4: he like I have to like physically like take him

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve.

440
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 4: I mean like it's like if you're eating McDonald's every

441
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 4: day and like kind of just putting garbage into your

442
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 4: body that is more than likely, like you know, like

443
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 4: it's like it's the biomechanics of your particular physiology put

444
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 4: you in that position. Uh, I mean, like if you're

445
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: working out and you're doing like you're I don't want

446
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: to sound like a like a health nut or nothing,

447
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 4: but I do know.

448
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: Well, Reese, Reese, I was gonna go to McDonald's after this,

449
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: but after hearing about all of this, nou totally. Yeah, no, no,

450
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: you've definitely can price. Reese. Man, Listen, you're doing a

451
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: great thing. I'm sorry to hear that fucking minimum wage

452
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: for this is like five dollars. That's crazy to me.

453
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I mean for.

454
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: You know, I yeah, well you work out of Illinois.

455
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, the minimum wage in Illinois for for someone in

456
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 4: my position is fifteen dollars an hour, which is why

457
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: I yes, I agree. Like our our jobs kind of

458
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 4: we're like one step below a CNA. We do pretty

459
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 4: much all we don't do any of like the medical stuff,

460
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 4: but we do pretty much all the heavy lifting. And

461
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: like our job, like we at very minimum deserve thirty

462
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: dollars an hour and like and then you know, going

463
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 4: up from there, you.

464
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: Know, Reese is there anything else you want to say

465
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go.

466
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: I just hope anyone that is in the vicinity of

467
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 4: our voices, I hope they consider joining a union, because

468
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 4: in any states that are right to work states, you're

469
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: guaranteed to make less money because of corporate greed. And

470
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 4: by joining a union, uh, you you put a stop

471
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: to the organized banditry of the working class. But with

472
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: the force of organized labor, and I couldn't do I

473
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: couldn't do what I'm doing without the union. So that's

474
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: that's my soapbox.

475
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much for all of your hard work. Race.

476
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: You have a good rest of the day.

477
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 4: Likewise, thank you, thank you for all your hard work.

478
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: While and I I'm trying man, remember it's life is

479
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: is not a narrative. It's a series of poems.

480
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'm going to think about that.

481
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it keeps me going.

482
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: Take care of rees.

483
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, have a good rest of your night. Man.

484
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: I love you.

485
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: I want to join in the UH. I guess I

486
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: have to start the therapy Gecko Union. I don't know

487
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: how many other people there are that UH dress up

488
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: as a gecko and UH talk to people on the phone,

489
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: but maybe I should find However, many other people that

490
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: exist in the world that do it and ask for

491
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: more money. God damn it, we need more money to

492
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: buy more candy. Actually, I feel like i'm I'm I'm

493
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: off a candy now thanks to Reese. He convinced me otherwise,

494
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: I like Raece. Reese was a good guy. Had was

495
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: like a very very pure intentions with his life. Nice

496
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: of him to help folks. You know, it's hard. It's

497
00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: hard when you wanna do a thing not for money

498
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: and just because you feel compelled to it, and then

499
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: you're rewarded with that with not a lot of money.

500
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: But uh, I'm glad to hear that the Union has

501
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: been been good for Reese. He was talking about a

502
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff about capitalism and everything, and I

503
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: don't I'm stupid. I don't read any books, and I

504
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 1: don't look at the you know, I don't look at

505
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: books and stuff, so I don't know what is going on.

506
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: But I hope he fixes whatever bad thing is going

507
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: on in that realm, and I trust him to do

508
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: so because because I don't know what I'm talking about,

509
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't think I can do it

510
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: join the Therapy Goto Union. Hello? Hello, what's up? How's

511
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: it going?

512
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

513
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 7: It's going all right?

514
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: Man?

515
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: How's it going?

516
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 7: How are you doing?

517
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: Deck?

518
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 7: I just jumped on the stream while ago and got

519
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 7: lucky enough to get on. I caught in so many

520
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 7: times many Mmm, I'm kind of nervous.

521
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: No, don't be nervous. Don't be nervous where I don't

522
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: even know what we're doing here either? What's up? What's up? Man?

523
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: How can I? How can I get you to the.

524
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: Uh? So?

525
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 7: I have some odd fetishes that I I can't I

526
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 7: just I can't come to accept them. You know what

527
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 7: I'm saying?

528
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: Okay, what are the fetishes?

529
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: I like?

530
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 7: Like cooking?

531
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: You know what is tucking?

532
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 7: It's like, oh god, damn.

533
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: It's tucking like what Buffalo Bill does in that one

534
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: movie where you take your balls and penis and you

535
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: tuck it behind your thighs.

536
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 7: No, I'm not into that specifically, but I've never seen

537
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 7: Buffalo Bills. I'm not really Wait a.

538
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Minute, are you saying tucking or cooking?

539
00:30:59,440 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 7: Cooking?

540
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, it's just okay. The call screener wrote, tucking.

541
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's why she said it. Wasn't that weird?

542
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: Okay? Are you so? You're not? So you're not into tucking.

543
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 7: I'm not into tucking.

544
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: No. And I'll say this, I think Buffalo Bill was

545
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: a weird guy, but not because of that. I don't

546
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: think that factored into his I think the murdering of

547
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: people he was a cannibal. Yeah, I think the murdering

548
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: and eating of people made him a weird guy. But

549
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: if it was just the tucking, you know, there's nothing

550
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: wrong with that anyway. Okay, So you like cooking, you

551
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: like being cooked?

552
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 7: Yes?

553
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Well what do you like about it?

554
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 7: Oh? I don't know, man, it just it's says like

555
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 7: the sexual I don't know, it just gets me going,

556
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying? Does that make sense?

557
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: You know?

558
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: Then?

559
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 7: I think it's it stems from a weird place certainly.

560
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: So just for those who don't know cooking, I'm clearing

561
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: up the tucking cooking thing, tucking and cocking. What if

562
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: you tucked and then got coocked? That would be crazy,

563
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: all right.

564
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 7: That would be crazy and probably actually you know, erotic, No,

565
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 7: no extra erotic.

566
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: I agree that could be a new thing for you.

567
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: Should try that next time you're getting cooked. Okay, cooking

568
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: I've never done it? Is your in is when you

569
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: ever when you're in a relationship with someone and you

570
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: like to watch them have sex with other people? Correct?

571
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 7: Basically, yes, that's okay, a lot of variations, but that's

572
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 7: that's certainly which.

573
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: Would tell me which variation you're the most into?

574
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 7: Honestly, a little bit of all of it. I don't know,

575
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 7: Like I said, I can't. It's so hard to just

576
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 7: sit here and talk about I've never told anybody about it.

577
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: M hm mm hmm. And then again, go ahead, okay,

578
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: so you said there's a lot of variations of it.

579
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: Describe to me which scenario, like, what variation of it

580
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: is the your dream? One? Like you have a girlfriend

581
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: and she, you know, brings home a guy and she's like,

582
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fuck you and I'm gonna fuck this

583
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: guy and the whole time she's like fuck you. You

584
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: like she like, she's like being rude to you and

585
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: then good to this guy, and that's turning you on?

586
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: Is that the kind of scenario that you're in? Okay, yeah, okay,

587
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: So why is it? Well, okay, so to stay with me, Okay,

588
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: why do you think it's fucked up.

589
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 7: I don't it's I don't know. I guess it's just

590
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 7: it's just degrading. And it's like I guess also, you know,

591
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 7: it was kind of always taught that's not the way

592
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 7: to be. Do you feel me it is? I don't know.

593
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.

594
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 7: Live in the South, so it's like it's a very

595
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 7: look down upon thing. It's like a taboo damn there.

596
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 7: And and then that might add to the factor too,

597
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 7: that it's like a taboo, you know. H But I'm not.

598
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: Sure the fact that it's a taboo is making it

599
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: even hotter.

600
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe, I think maybe so. I think that's

601
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 7: part of it. But the degradation part, the degradation part,

602
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 7: that's definitely a big part of it too, you know.

603
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 7: But but then again, that's like, like I said, I

604
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 7: think it stems from somewhere, and I kind of know

605
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 7: where it comes from, but it's just like I'm not sure.

606
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me where you kind of think it comes from.

607
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 7: I think from how I was treated when I was young.

608
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: Probably, Okay, how were you treated with and how you

609
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: feel like talking?

610
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 3: Do what now?

611
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: I said, how are you if you were comfortable with

612
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: telling us how were you treated when you were young

613
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: that you feel like is related to this?

614
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 7: Just very degrading, you know what I'm saying. It's like

615
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 7: it wasn't so much physical. It's very I guess like

616
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 7: emotional or kind of verbal, you know, if that makes

617
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 7: any sense.

618
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: And so your parents were verbally degrading to you.

619
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's almost like I kind of

620
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 7: it like brings back some feeling from when I was young.

621
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 4: It's so weird.

622
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 7: It's very strange when when I think about it, because

623
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 7: I guess I've never done it and maybe I couldn't

624
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 7: handle it. But then again, I'm afraid it's gonna, you know,

625
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 7: kind of affect the way I can make relationships going forward.

626
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 7: And I'm not making very many relationships you know, in

627
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 7: general friends there like platonic or you know whatever, romantic

628
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 7: mm hmm.

629
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: Do you watch like cock porn?

630
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

631
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 7: Sometimes? Actually yeah I do.

632
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 3: I just do.

633
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: Well. I think the shame, I mean, this is how

634
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: you feel, this is it? This is Yeah, Well, you're

635
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: telling me the truth right now.

636
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 7: One hundred. I'm not I would not lie to you.

637
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 7: I actually watched the stream the other day with like

638
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 7: some dude did it and he wouldn't go through with it,

639
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 7: and you were talking about that. It's from from a

640
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 7: minute ago. But no, I wouldn't do that.

641
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: Gack.

642
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: I really no, no, no, you you know you're you're here.

643
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: You're hearing me wrong right now. I'm not asking you

644
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: that you're telling you. I'm restating the fact that you're

645
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: telling the truth. Okay, Yeah, yeah, I'm not questioning you.

646
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: I know you're telling the truth.

647
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

648
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: And you're ashamed of the truth.

649
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 7: A hundred are you?

650
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: Are you ashamed of the truth for a good reason?

651
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, Like I said, I don't

652
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 7: know if it's like it's just I can't come to

653
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 7: accept it. I don't know if it's like you know,

654
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 7: it's like those weird emotions stemming from how I was

655
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 7: kind of degraded. But I was expected to be this

656
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 7: certain thing, you know, I kind of uh, you know

657
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 7: what a what a man is.

658
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Supposed to be?

659
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 7: You feel you know what I'm saying? Does that makes sense?

660
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can I answer you something? Yeah?

661
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: What's up?

662
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: How do just how do you feel right now being

663
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: on the phone and talking to me about it?

664
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 7: A bit, a bit terrified? If I'm gonna be honest

665
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 7: with you. It's just and I'm anonymous, Like you know

666
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. I know nobody knows. It's just talking

667
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 7: to you, and you've talked about some pretty fucked up shit.

668
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 7: You know, it's still it's like, wow, it's still I'm

669
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 7: still trying to get over it. But it's just like

670
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 7: saying out loud, you know.

671
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: Do you? I mean, does any part of you feel

672
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: relieved to talk about it?

673
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 7: I definitely feel it's nice. It definitely has nice talking

674
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 7: about it, just because I've been able to say it.

675
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 7: You know, I don't tell anybody. I have people that

676
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 7: are really close to it. I just don't talk about it. Plus,

677
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 7: it's like I hear a lot of people I'm close

678
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 7: to kind of talking about how it's you know, and

679
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know how to explain I

680
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 7: don't how to explain it.

681
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, all right, were you

682
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: about to say that you feel people around you talking

683
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: about how it's weird or talking about yeah.

684
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

685
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 7: I don't know how to explain it. Should they just

686
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 7: talk about how it's it's weird?

687
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: Or it's like who the fuck would do that?

688
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying stuff like that. M Well,

689
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 7: they make fun of the idea, and I'm like, I

690
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 7: get it. I get it, you know what I'm saying.

691
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 7: I get where they're coming from because I have the

692
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 7: same emotions toward it, even though I'm into it, you know.

693
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: Okay, But yeah, but can we But just I want

694
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: to like challenge for a second the emotions that you

695
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: have to it, that you've picked up from your friends,

696
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: because what really is behind those emotions? Like, like, tell

697
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: me what, tell me in your words, how you think

698
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: your friends view this.

699
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 7: It's it's not just my friends either, but it's family.

700
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 7: It's all that sort of thing.

701
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a culture. Yes, it's used as an insult,

702
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: being a cock. There is a cultural, societal whatever thing

703
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: about it. And and what what is the origin of

704
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: what is your view of that perspective? What is your

705
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: explanation of that perspective?

706
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know where it comes from, but

707
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 7: I just know that it's it's it's what I've I

708
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 7: guess I've always heard coming coming up, you know, just

709
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 7: growing up and stuff. That's just how how people view it.

710
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 7: You know, it's very But.

711
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: No, when I'm asking I'm not asking you where that

712
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: perspective comes from, Like what is it? Like? What what

713
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: is your friend's perspective on being a.

714
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 7: Cut Oh, they think that, you know the same. It's

715
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 7: just it's disgusting, It's it's weird. It's all that ship.

716
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 7: You know, they think that. That's what they think about it.

717
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 7: You know, hear them talk about that sort of shit sometimes.

718
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: Okay, so real quick, what let's go into why Why

719
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: is it weird? Why is it disgusting?

720
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

721
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 7: I guess it's it's uh, you know, I don't fuck

722
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 7: I don't know. I guess it's because you're I guess

723
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 7: I just supposed to be a not submissive or some

724
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 7: shit like that. Now, I don't really buy into that

725
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 7: sort of shit.

726
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: Because there is no real fucking reason as to why

727
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: it's weird. As opposed, and that perspective that your friend

728
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: has is built on a faulty foundation. It's built on nothing.

729
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: It's built on a societal perception of how you, as

730
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: a guy, are supposed to be, and that perception was

731
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: also built off of absolutely nothing. And the truth is

732
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: that you feel how you feel, and you're really not

733
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: hurting anybody, and you're really not doing anything malicious. And

734
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: all that really matters is is this thing in any

735
00:41:52,920 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: way negatively impacting your life? And I don't know the

736
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: answer to that.

737
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I suppose it's not negatively affecting my life.

738
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm not. I don't really have any

739
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 7: sort of relationship right now, so it's nothing I like

740
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 7: I said, I haven't tried it yet. But I mean

741
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 7: it's I don't know, it's like a I don't know,

742
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 7: it's a bit of I don't want to say addictive.

743
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 7: I guess it's not just that, but it's like I

744
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 7: don't know, I'm I can't get away from the idea.

745
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 7: It's it's just always in my pops in my head

746
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 7: at weird times and.

747
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Ship James, listen, if I can tell you this that

748
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: your friends or your family or the people around you

749
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: and your community, the weirdness, it's it's not based off

750
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: of anything real, So don't listen to it. Cut cut

751
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: all the other people's perceptions of you and what you're

752
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: into and and whatnot. Just cut it out because it's

753
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: not important. And all that's really important is how you

754
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: feel about you and how you feel about these things.

755
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: And I hope that the way you feel about things

756
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: is built on a foundation of that really fucking means something,

757
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: because right now you are feeling all this shame that's

758
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: based off of not living up to other people's expectations

759
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: of how a man should be, of how a relationship

760
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: should be, and nobody gets to decide those things. There's

761
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: so much people trying to fucking dictate how other people

762
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: should live, how other people should go about their lives,

763
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: and it's just such a stupid fucking thing, James, and

764
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be feeling shame about other people's dictations of

765
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: how you should be as a human being.

766
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 7: I appreciate that, brother, I appreciate it, and I shouldn't.

767
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 7: And I don't know. Things just I don't know. It's

768
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 7: like I said, this one is just one I really

769
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 7: really struggled to just accept.

770
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: You know.

771
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: And but I think I was sad to hear that

772
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: nobody's told you that.

773
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 7: I definitely haven't heard that. I appreciate the ship. I

774
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 7: really do, but it's just it's it's just so hard

775
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 7: to accept.

776
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, you ever been to a real therapist?

777
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said, have you ever been to a

778
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: real therapist.

779
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 7: I have, but not about this specifically. And there's also.

780
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: Did you intentionally not tell them?

781
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 7: I mean it's been a while. I mean I did

782
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 7: have these kind of things, but I just kind of

783
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 7: just kind of didn't didn't think about it, kind of

784
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 7: stuffed it down a bit. Had a lot of other well,

785
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 7: other other issues that kind of affecting me at the

786
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 7: that that point in time, you know, so we didn't

787
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 7: really get into that. We talked about the more upfront

788
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 7: kind of issues, you know, like what I the problems

789
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 7: I was having right then, or there were more there

790
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 7: were negatively affecting me worse at the time, you know.

791
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 7: I mean I could talk about other things too, I

792
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 7: just that this is just one that I figured, you know,

793
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 7: I'd rather be a non host to get on about.

794
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Sure, I think next time, if you do go to therapy,

795
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: I think you should talk about this because hopefully, because

796
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: the thing is if it's something that stemmed from like

797
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: your parents and you need to go in and like

798
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: work through the traumas of the past, I think that's important.

799
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: But as I if you could take anything away from

800
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: this conversation, and again I'm sad to hear that the

801
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: town that you live in and your friends and your

802
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: family are imposing their ideas of how you should be

803
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: upon you. I'm sad to hear that. So if you take,

804
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: if you take anything away from this conversation, I hope

805
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: it's that you don't have to live by that. Do

806
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying?

807
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 7: I think I think, yeah, I'll take that with me.

808
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 7: I appreciate that. I really do. It makes me feel

809
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 7: a lot better.

810
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: Don okay, please do please don't. I could say like

811
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: more words now, but I'd rather you just like focus

812
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: on that and think about that every day, that you

813
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: you don't have to live by these people in your

814
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: small towns ideas of what is and is not weird

815
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: and acceptable. And you're a young dude. You said you're nineteen.

816
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: The faster you focus on abandoning those, the quicker you

817
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: will live a much nicer life for yourself. So I

818
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: hope you do.

819
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 7: Absolutely not try. I really appreciate it, Like I said,

820
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 7: like I never do, never talked about it. That this

821
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 7: helps so much. I appreciate you guy.

822
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm really glad to hear that. I'm glad that you

823
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: were courageous enough to share this stuff. And I hope

824
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: you are more comfortable with it in the future. Is

825
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: there anything else that you want to say to the

826
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.

827
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 7: James, No other than I appreciate it. Shut out of you.

828
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 7: James isn't my name, actually, but thank you so much.

829
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: Greg.

830
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 7: You have a great night, brother. I appreciate you movie.

831
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: Take care. Fuck man ah man, I fucking I don't know,

832
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: you know what it is. Maybe this sounds douchey, but

833
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it because I've been thinking about it

834
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: in my little internet therapy Gecko worlds, and also my

835
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: parents and my friends. They're all everyone in that sphere

836
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: is very they are. They're open minded people, and I'm

837
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: really grateful and lucky for that. And I think with

838
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: calls like the one I just had, they keme into

839
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: remembering like, oh, fuck, you know, there's folks like James

840
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: who are not as lucky to have the de facto

841
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: sentiment around them be as supportive, and it keys me

842
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: into that, and I hope, because I don't know, sometimes

843
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: I say all the cliche hippie shit of like, well,

844
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: you don't have to be so invested in other people's

845
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: opinions of you, and blah blah blah, And I think

846
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm so engulfed in my own sphere being very supportive

847
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: that in my head I'm like, well, everyone already knows that,

848
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: don't they. And then I, you know, get a call

849
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: like that where I'm like, oh, fuck, there's folks like

850
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: James who live in who in their own spheres, the

851
00:49:53,520 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: de facto sentiment is not open minded and supportive, and

852
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: that fucking makes me sad. So I hope, I don't know,

853
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: I really do. I hope uh that he does take

854
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: that ship to heart and think about it. I've been

855
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: asked before. I have the friends, and he asked me.

856
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: He was like, do you really care about helping people?

857
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: Because I don't. It's a complex as a that's a

858
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: complicated answer to that question. And here's what I think

859
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: in that moment. Over the course of that phone call,

860
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: I really wasn't gay. I was like, I really want

861
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: to help this guy. But when I get off of this,

862
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: when I hit when I stop recording, I'll probably never

863
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: think about him again. That's kind of where I land

864
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: about on that. It's like, in the moment that I'm

865
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: on the phone with this guy, it's like, really important

866
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: to me, and then that's all I've got, and then

867
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: I can't care outside.

868
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 4: Of that.

869
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: Because it would be inhuman. I think that's the truth.

870
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: But fuck as I'm talking about, right, I really I

871
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: hope I hope he. I hope he took that ship,

872
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: and I hope that that call helped him. I dude,

873
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: I really do. And you know what, in his honor,

874
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home and watch some cockborn tonight as well.

875
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, hey.

876
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: What's your name?

877
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 4: Hayden?

878
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: Hayden? What's going on? Hayden?

879
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 2: Not a whole lot?

880
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: Am I on?

881
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: Hayden? It says here you wanted to talk about food?

882
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: I do? You sound wildly different on the phone than

883
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: you do in your podcast.

884
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: What kind of food do you want to talk about?

885
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: I wanna?

886
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 4: I want to.

887
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: I want to talk about, uh, pizza. I have a

888
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: topic about it. I'm very passionate about I want to

889
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: share it with you.

890
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: You you called in to my podcast to talk to

891
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: me about pizza.

892
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 2: I did, I did, I did?

893
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: Oh. I would love to talk about pizza, so now, please,

894
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: I would love to talk about pizza. What do you

895
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: want to talk what about pizza?

896
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: I want to talk about how triangle cut pizza is

897
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 2: superior in every way, shape and form compared to square cut.

898
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I have my personal thoughts about this, but go

899
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: ahead and tell me what your theory is.

900
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: My biggest thing. Right, Let's say you're at a gathering

901
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: with a very large group of people and they order

902
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: six boxes of pizza and it's all square cut. You're

903
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: one of the first people in there. You don't know

904
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: how many slices to grab, it's impossible, you don't know

905
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: what percentage of pizza to take. It's annoying. But if

906
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: it's triangle cut, you just take two slices and then

907
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: you're done with it. And then like go back when

908
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: to everyone that's gotten their slices, because there's still going

909
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: to be but you start with two and then you

910
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 2: get more later.

911
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: You know, what you are touching on is the the

912
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: the well known ambiguity of square pizza versus the relative

913
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: certainty of triangle cut pizza, because two slices of triangle

914
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: cut pizza is the generally agreed upon serving size. However,

915
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: there is no widely accepted, generally agreed upon serving size

916
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: for square pizza. That's why whenever I order a square

917
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: pizza I could find myself eating the whole thing. That's

918
00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: actually not why I do that, because I I don't

919
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: care about my body. But it's true, you don't really

920
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: know how many size it is to take. You have

921
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: to kind of do It's like the metric system. You

922
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: have to kind of find the equation of how many

923
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: slices of square pizza add up to be a triangle

924
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: cut slice of pizza. Do you have a number for

925
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: that yourself?

926
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: Not personally, because I will typically avoid getting square cut

927
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: pizza whenever I can. The other big thing about it

928
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: is a common argument I gain that oh it's it's nice,

929
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 2: it's easy to eat, but no it's not. There are

930
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: some like if you're getting maybe Marion's Marian's pizza, the

931
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: little tiny squares over all, right, but most of them

932
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: are not my sized. And I also find what you

933
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: were saying earlier about you just you can it feels

934
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: like you're eating less, so you just eat the whole pizza.

935
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

936
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and that's what I was going to say,

937
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: as like a pro but I don't know why that

938
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: like when that When that thought first came to my mind,

939
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: it appeared to me as a as a as a

940
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: positive as to why I prefer score pizza, but now

941
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: now I think it as it is actually a negative.

942
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: I think it's good to know how much you are consuming,

943
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: so I'm on your side.

944
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: I've been very vocal about this with all my friends,

945
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: about arguing about it, and it has definitely come back

946
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: to bite me because in every social gathering that I'm

947
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: a part of where pizza is involved, I am a

948
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: plain cheese guy, love just the classic like just cheap,

949
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: nothing else.

950
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, when you say when you say you bring

951
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: this up into every conversation and it is affected you negatively,

952
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: do you do you think it has anything to do

953
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: with your stance on pizza or do you think it's

954
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: because you don't talk about anything else?

955
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 4: No?

956
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: No, no, I talk about other things. But if like

957
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: we ever talk, if we ever get into the food debate.

958
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: I just have like a list of several hot takes

959
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: on different types of food, and this is the most Uh,

960
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: this is the one that gets people the most wild up.

961
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: But every time I'm in a situation where there's pizza

962
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: and a group of my friends, they will exclusively get

963
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: my cheese pizza square cut, and everything else is trying

964
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: to cut. But they do it to fight and I

965
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: and money, but and.

966
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: What do you have? What do you think about what's

967
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: going on with Israel and Palestine?

968
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: Oh? What do I really? Man, I'm not I'm not

969
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: too sure.

970
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: Watch there's somebody freaking out in the background. Is everything

971
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: okay with with this person?

972
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

973
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: That that is? That is my fiance. Man, You're not

974
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: gonna believe this. I'm sitting in her and sitting with

975
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 2: her in labor and delivery. She's not giving birth.

976
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

977
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: Your wife is is writhing in pain with contractions? No background? Well,

978
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: you are on the phone with a gecko debating about

979
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: whether or not square cut pizza is better than triangle pizza.

980
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: No, No, she's not giving birth right now. We got

981
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks until that happens. We're here for

982
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: just a normal checkup. She's talking to me about food

983
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: for McDonald's, which is what we're going to do once

984
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: wee weeks.

985
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm like, your break from having to deal

986
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: with your pregnant wife.

987
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: It's not really a break. No, she's wonderful.

988
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: Let me talk to her real quick.

989
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: You want to talk to her? Yeah, of course she's

990
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: flipping me off. I'm being honest. I don't think she

991
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: wants me to talk.

992
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: She's not.

993
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: No, she's not mad at me. She's mad at you.

994
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I feel like I'll die if I give

995
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: you give her this phone. I'll be honest.

996
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: No, trust me, you should. You should give her the phone.

997
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: I should give her the phone.

998
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: You should give her the phone.

999
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: She's giving me that look like I will die if I.

1000
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: Give her the phone.

1001
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, this is gonna this is going

1002
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: to go very well for everyone involved.

1003
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk to the therapy?

1004
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: Get go?

1005
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: She said no, yeah, I honestly, when I called in,

1006
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: I haven't been watching the stream. I just called like

1007
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes before you went live so I

1008
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: could get into queue. And I was like, I swear,

1009
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: if this is the time that she picks up my call,

1010
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be able to take it.

1011
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: But no, no, this is fun.

1012
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: Hayden, Yeah, go go be with your wife.

1013
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: I am with my wife.

1014
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'll talk to you later.

1015
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: Headen, all right, yeah, hight bye.

1016
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: Love. A guy who has his priorities in line goes

1017
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: on the line taking your phone calls every night, the

1018
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: recon goes doing his eye He's teaching

1019
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: You aloud in the movie line, but he's not ready

1020
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: an expert.