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Speaker 1: responsible gaming Resources. Hi, everybody interesting Interesting Sunday. So in

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Speaker 1: the first window, all the best quarterbacks won, and I

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Speaker 1: do think Will Levis is going to be better than

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter. He had four touchdowns today, but mostly the

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Speaker 1: In the afternoon, Russell Wilson beat Mahomes. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: you know, I've said this before. It's one thing if

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Speaker 1: see the cars and the beautiful house, it stings a little.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing for brock Purty to struggle, but when

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Speaker 1: watches that and knows that, you know, he lost to

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Speaker 1: dad won Super Bowls with l Way, and Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: He got hit from behind. He had a really bad

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Speaker 1: That was a little bit of a miss. Garoppolo trade,

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Speaker 1: really good football team. Don't worry about Kansas City. We'll

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Speaker 1: it's a seven play drive, it's a nine play drive.

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Speaker 1: You're sitting on the bench watching, it's cold, you're sick,

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna draft three legends in a row. I

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Speaker 1: That's a rut. It's not Burrow Jamar Chase, but it's

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Speaker 2: Well, two things, Dallas's blowouts all look the same. Pick

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Speaker 2: always so disappointed after they lose.

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Speaker 1: So my take on San Francisco Cincinnati was that it's

426
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Speaker 1: one thing if you're less successful than your brother and

427
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Speaker 1: he lives cross town. But if he's your neighbor and

428
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Speaker 1: you have you see the maserati in the driveway and

429
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Speaker 1: the big house, it's kind of painful. He's your neighbor,

430
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Speaker 1: right pretty on the same field with Burrow, You're like,

431
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Speaker 1: oh shit, yeah, this is not good. I mean, first

432
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Speaker 1: of all, small hands, end of the game, strip ball

433
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Speaker 1: comes out, that's the knock. That red zone interception you've

434
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Speaker 1: never seen Lway throw a one of those. You've never

435
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Speaker 1: seen mahomes, So one of those are Burrow. That's a

436
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: really bad interception in the red zone. I like Brock.

437
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: He can throw the ball down the field, had a

438
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Speaker 1: couple of moves today, a couple of wiggles. I like him.

439
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: He's a good athlete, good athlete, but when you put

440
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Speaker 1: him on the field with Burrow. So Kyle's lost to

441
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Speaker 1: Brady in a Super Bowl. His dad lost to some

442
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks in the Super Bowl, right, like everybody in

443
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: the Shanahan family knows, you gotta have an l way. Yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: he's lost to Mahomes in a Super Bowl with Garoppolo

445
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Speaker 1: and they out coached and outplayed him for three quarters.

446
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Speaker 1: What do you do with Brock Purty? Do you do?

447
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Speaker 1: You keep him in house? I mean, what do you

448
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: do here? You know, you know when you put him

449
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Speaker 1: on a field with Burrow, it's not the same game.

450
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Speaker 2: Do you know what's weird? In forty nine er Land?

451
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: Up until what Saturday when he was cleared for concussion,

452
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: it was looking like Sam Darnold was going to play,

453
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Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people were just intrigued

454
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Speaker 2: what was gonna look like? So I was right with

455
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Speaker 2: Kyle this offense. I was, you were everyone was. I

456
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Speaker 2: was really excited not disappointed when the guy cleared, because,

457
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: like you said, he did play well up until he

458
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Speaker 2: started turning the ball over left and right towards the

459
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Speaker 2: end of the game. But this team is built and

460
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Speaker 2: this is why Kyle's been able to do it with

461
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Speaker 2: middle of the road Jimmy Garoppolo. Purty's been better than

462
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Speaker 2: that version of Jimmy. But win at such a high

463
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Speaker 2: rate is because their defense dominated. And today I looked

464
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Speaker 2: up toward the end of the game, the Bengals head

465
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: close to thirty first downs. They obviously they have an

466
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Speaker 2: elite quarterback, wide receiver Duo Higgins is healthy, mixing looked

467
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: like he was in his prime today running over forty

468
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Speaker 2: nine ers. Their defense is not the same and they're

469
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Speaker 2: not built. We've seen Kyle's record on these comebacks in

470
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter down eight or more points. That's not

471
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Speaker 2: how they've ever won. And so when you're getting sliced

472
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Speaker 2: and diced and they've handled better quarterbacks and just kept

473
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Speaker 2: the game close and won those games, they can't win

474
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Speaker 2: a game where they are getting thoroughly outplayed. On me,

475
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Speaker 2: missing tackles, getting run over. Burrow's gonna make plays now

476
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Speaker 2: when he's playing like that, to me, that's like MVP level.

477
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: He looked as good as he's ever looked, just in

478
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Speaker 2: terms of physically, clearly, the calf is long gone. His

479
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: rhythm and timing in that game just got better and

480
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: better as the game went on. You were surprised when

481
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Speaker 2: he missed a pass, But the forty nine ers just

482
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Speaker 2: like last week against Kirk Cousins. If they're getting shredded

483
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Speaker 2: on defense in the passing game and they can't get

484
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Speaker 2: off the field, they're just not gonna win. And right

485
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Speaker 2: now they're in shambles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I listen, it's in the early window. The

487
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Speaker 1: best quarterback won every game. Late window. Mahomes is sick,

488
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Speaker 1: so he loses. But you start looking at and Golf's

489
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Speaker 1: gonna win tomorrow night. I mean, the best quarterback now

490
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Speaker 1: once once the weather we have a big cold front

491
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Speaker 1: hitting the Midwest and the East, our first bigie of

492
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Speaker 1: the year going forward, best quarterbacks win games. Trevor Lawrence,

493
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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. Now Kenny got hurt, but when you watch

494
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Speaker 1: that game, it was three and out, three and out,

495
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Speaker 1: three and out, three and out. You can blame Matt Canada,

496
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: who's not great, but one guy was making big time throws.

497
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Speaker 2: The Steelers are a Trevor Lawrence away from being a

498
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Speaker 2: contender because you're watching that game, you're like, if you

499
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Speaker 2: just flipped gave their quarterback to this team with that defense,

500
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: Holy hell. And now who knows what Kenny Pikett's injury is.

501
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: But regardless, like you said, the weather turns I mean

502
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: you and me, it's eighty degrees out. It's not relatable

503
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: on the West coast to once you get Midwest and

504
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: over honestly, even Denver over right now, it's a different

505
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: level football. I remember in scouting meetings, you know, when

506
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: I did the Pac twelve, I'm like, well, from a

507
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Speaker 2: quarterback standpoint, do you want this guy in Philly? Do

508
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: you want this guy in Boston? Do you want it

509
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: is so cold you live there forever. People that have

510
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: not spent and lived out there can relate to the consistency.

511
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Speaker 2: It's not always raining or a blizzard. It's just cold,

512
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: harder to hold the ball. The weather can turn like that.

513
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Speaker 2: I mean, for the most part in the West Coast,

514
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Speaker 2: you kind of know when a rainstorm's coming or whatever.

515
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: At a moment's notice, things can change, temperature can dip

516
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Speaker 2: by twenty degrees, a rain can come. And I mean

517
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Speaker 2: that New York game today was just a disaster too.

518
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Speaker 2: I mean, one quarterback none of us have ever heard

519
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Speaker 2: of against Zak Wilson, and it just it was hard

520
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 2: to watch. But because it is, it's what made Brady

521
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: so special, right, he was so elite in the cold

522
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: and half his games probably of his career in New

523
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Speaker 2: England came in inclement weather or just you know, forty

524
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Speaker 2: degrees in below or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and so listen. Bad weather's bad for

526
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Speaker 1: all quarterbacks, but elite guys can overcome it. I mean

527
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Today wasn't his best game ever. And I

528
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Speaker 1: want to talk about Jacksonville and Pittsburgh because I said

529
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Speaker 1: this in my preamble. Everybody in their room knows Jordan

530
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Speaker 1: Love's not it in Green Bay. They're just not going

531
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Speaker 1: to say it publicly. They're going to get out of

532
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Speaker 1: that contract quick and draft a quarterback Kenny Picketts of Pittsburgh. Kid.

533
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Speaker 1: He's better than Love. He makes just enough late game throws.

534
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Speaker 1: He's got better receivers. They're going to talk themselves into

535
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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett for six years and he's not going to

536
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Speaker 1: do anything at the end of seasons. Smaller hands, doesn't

537
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: have a big arm cold Weather City, but he's good

538
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Speaker 1: enough that they'll keep him. Jordan Love is done. They're

539
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Speaker 1: moving off him really quick. So today you ask most

540
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Speaker 1: fans that I like where Pittsburgh is. You can't win

541
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Speaker 1: conference championships with Kenny Pickett in the AFC Kenny Pickett

542
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: in the NFC. With that defense, maybe you got a shot.

543
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Speaker 1: So as I'm watching Pittsburgh today again, they do so

544
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: many things. Well, they're just all on defense. I think

545
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: we all struggle and I don't know if it's good

546
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: for the league with Jacksonville, but man, they lead the

547
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Speaker 1: league in takeaways. They have a star quarterback, the running back,

548
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: the wide outs. Like I think Kansas City is not

549
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: explosive enough a wide receiver. I think Jacksonville could very

550
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: well play Baltimore or Cincinnati in the AFC Championship. I

551
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: think beyond Mahomes flew today, I think Andy reading those

552
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: guys know, like we don't have cap space, we're just

553
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: not as explosive. I watch Jacksonville today in that crappy

554
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: weather that was Pittsburgh weather, and I'm like, for them

555
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: to go up and win felt so substantial to me.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we know Andy and Veitch. I would

557
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: imagine they'll be sniffing around the next twenty four to

558
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: thirty six hours for a wide receiver and trying to

559
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: do something creative to get, you know, an offensive playmaker

560
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: on that team. I'm completely with you. I mean, you

561
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: turn on that game it's just ugly. Even how expensive

562
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: these cameras are, it's still kind of hard to see.

563
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: This is I don't know. And then Jacksonville had an

564
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: early lead. You're like, these Florida teams, what's always been

565
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: the knock on Miami, right, they can't win in forty

566
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: degrees when it gets ugly. Jacksonville you kind of just

567
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: in your mind a Florida team, and they were just

568
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: the grittier, tougher team and they're good. I mean that's

569
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Speaker 2: the other thing ETN think about that draft, you know,

570
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Speaker 2: I think it went back to back NAUSEI Harris for

571
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: ETM and in this modern day NFL spread player, you

572
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: can throw them the ball in space. He's a great receiver.

573
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Speaker 2: I mean, ETN is a modern day NFL kind of

574
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 2: hybrid running back. He's not as good, but that Alvin

575
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Kamara mode. We just get him out in space, let

576
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: him play with speed. He had a huge touchdown to day.

577
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: To me, the Steelers their margin for error. TJ. Watt

578
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Speaker 2: has to play. He's Lawrence Taylor. Every game they need

579
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: one of their dbs to get a pick. The moment

580
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: picket got banged up and I kind of relood him

581
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: like is that Mitch Trubisky. You know they're screwed. Yeah,

582
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: you got no chance. And listen, there's a big gap

583
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: between Every backup in the league is a backup for

584
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: a reason. But if your backup is just somewhat serviceable

585
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: you can win a game, you have no chance when

586
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: mister Bisky comes in the game. The other thing is,

587
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: like you were talking about Kenny Pickett, thin about their division.

588
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: You know, Joe Burrow's one of the great players of

589
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Speaker 2: his generation. Lamar is one of the most unique star

590
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: players we've ever seen. Those guys are both what just

591
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: signed three hundred and fifty million dollars worth of contracts.

592
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: Where are they going? They just entered their prime and

593
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: their teams are kicking ass and taking names now. The

594
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: Bengals are clearly heading in the right direction, and the Ravens,

595
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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say, if you're placing a bet,

596
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Speaker 2: I guess we'll see what Kansas City does over these

597
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: next two days. Are they the one seed? I mean,

598
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: it's that's probably where I put my money right now.

599
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Pittsburgh, you gotta be kicking yourself

600
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: because you have so much talent. I mean, your defense

601
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: is loaded with impact guy. Pickens is just a home run.

602
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: I mean what a star wide receiver that guy is.

603
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: Other impact players at skilled positions, but the quarterback play

604
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: now really since big Ben, I mean that's I was

605
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 2: watching the Saints today watching would be strong. I had

606
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: him on one of the boxes and keep an eye

607
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: because of Derek. They have absolutely no business to not

608
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: win that division. Their team is by far the most

609
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: talented they have. You know, they're paying Derek sixty seventy

610
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Speaker 2: million dollars. He clearly, if he is just okay, is

611
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Speaker 2: better than the Ritterers, the Bakers, and today you saw

612
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: like their impact players. But again like they pay just

613
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: to get. They just need Derek to be you know,

614
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: fifteen to thirteen range and they're a ten win team.

615
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: And that's really the Steelers mindset for drafting Kenny Pickett

616
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Speaker 2: at twenty just to be a serviceable guy. And every

617
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: once in a while you see it, like last week

618
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: right when he made those plays against the but it

619
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: was against the Rams. Now you're looking back to like

620
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Speaker 2: how good really that was? And then you're watching them

621
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Speaker 2: against a playoff team and you go, uugh, you weren't

622
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: seeing it early before he got hurt, and now you go,

623
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Speaker 2: this is probably the reason that you're not going to

624
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Speaker 2: make the playoffs is because of your quarterback.

625
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's call over to Philadelphia and Washington. So there

626
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: was a play late in the game where Philadelphia looked

627
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: like they were going to do the push push, and

628
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: then they just worked the Washington staff and they came

629
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Speaker 1: out of it. You knew it was eventually going to happen,

630
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, they're so clever. Philadelphia is remarkable.

631
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is hurt. They have not played a complete game.

632
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: They've had several good halfs. They've gotten bad breaks where

633
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: they've often played a team that was awful loss and

634
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: I look up and I'm like, they just keep when

635
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: today they played very well. They were out played for

636
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Speaker 1: three quarters, no question. I had Washington plus seven the

637
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: whole game. I'm like, oh, I got the right side.

638
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean that they were complete and Washington played pretty well.

639
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: Sam Hel's not it. Sam Hel's okay, but.

640
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: You were a bad sam Hal pick away from covering

641
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: that game. Though he do a bad.

642
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Pick, it was like brought pretty. It's like you can

643
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: make some throws. He's not it, But I watched Phililadelphia.

644
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: You know him, well, AJ Brown now has really, I

645
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: mean AJ's taken over the receiving corp the tight ends, Jalen,

646
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: if you told me today, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Philadelphia,

647
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City. I feel like I think we've seen the NFC.

648
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I think we see Philadelphia feels like they're not playing

649
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: well and they're not only good. You notice how good

650
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: they are late in situational football. They just Miami, I

651
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: think was tied seventeen seventeen Washington. They are so good

652
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: playing poorly late, they just flip it. And I look

653
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: at them and I'm like, John, I feel like they've

654
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: really pulled away from the NFC.

655
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think that AJ Brown has a chance to

656
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: go down as one of the great NFL trades in

657
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: the history of the league. You know. And I think

658
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: Howie's career has been defined by aggression and making moves,

659
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: and he was in position to make that trade be

660
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: because he had made other trades that led them to

661
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: have all these first round picks. And it really was

662
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: a double whammie. They just didn't get a star wide receiver,

663
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: but they got a star wide receiver who's like best

664
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: friends with their quarterback and who has elevated that guy?

665
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: Because Jalen today played much better, especially from a number standpoint,

666
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: pushing the ball down the field. He's so comfortable throwing

667
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: it to aj. And then when you look at defensively

668
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: like you just said, situationally, why they're so good is

669
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: because they have such high IQ football players who are

670
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: elite players, right. I mean, look look at what Hassan

671
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: Redick like right now. Oh God, the Niners just gave

672
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa all this money. If you just watch the

673
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: two players, Reddicks a much better player right now than

674
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa. So their high end all pro, Pro Bowl

675
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: level guys are playing to that level and come through

676
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: in the biggest spots. Because Washington they're a bizarre franchise,

677
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 2: right For over the last several years they have kind

678
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: of been. They haven't sucked, and they can take down

679
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: anyone in any random week. They definitely play the Eagles

680
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: really well, but they're not good enough to make playoff

681
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: runs or even really make the playoffs. They never draft

682
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: high enough. Yet we're always talking about maybe should they

683
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: fire their coach? And then you watch a player, you God,

684
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: I like a lot of these pieces, but they're actually

685
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: going nowhere, and you're like, God, this is kind of

686
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: a waste of a franchise right now. And the Eagles,

687
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: unlike last year, were they you know, a similar game

688
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: that they lost today, It was right there, they easily

689
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: could have lost. They just found a way. And it

690
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: was really to me because aj Brown is on Reddick, Yeah,

691
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: and those guys. That's a lot of money worth a player,

692
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: And to me, this is all Howie Roseman, you look

693
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: at uh in terms of just the talent on their team.

694
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: They draft Jalen Carter, Well, why were they comfortable doing that?

695
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 2: Because they were equipped on defense with high character, impact guys,

696
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: especially in that unit. Right, you can take flyers on

697
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: guys in the draft at certain positions when your position

698
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: group in that given team is loaded with guys where

699
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: he can't run the room. And Jalen Carter looks up

700
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 2: to all these guys, I mean, they've gotten impact plays

701
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: for him all season long, and yeah, I mean they

702
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: just they're they're clearly, I mean, the Diners are falling apart,

703
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: right and the Eagles feel like they've kind of got

704
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 2: it together and obviously have a big game this week.

705
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because Jared Goff's inability to move as

706
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: a whole, There's no question. Yeah, Jalen Hurts can move,

707
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: throw indoors, outdoors, home road. Hurts, I gotta tell you,

708
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: first of all, in tangibles a plus plus plus plus.

709
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: But I sort of like his tangibles. I kind of

710
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: like him as I you know, I said that Lamar

711
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: Jackson is so dynamic as a runner an electric that

712
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: we just don't give him credit. From the prop pocket.

713
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: He's pretty good a lot of the games. He's really special.

714
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: I think with Jalen Hurts, because he was a runner

715
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: in college, Bama moved off him. First impressions matter. Like

716
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: when I watch him in the pocket, I think he's

717
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: really good. I think he sees the field. I think

718
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: he's daring. I think his arm it's not a plus arm,

719
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: but it's a good arm. I think, you know, with

720
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: Dak it's the intangibles, it's not the tangibles. With Jalen Hurts,

721
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: I think his tangibles are better than I give him

722
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: credit for.

723
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: I was talking to a scouting director last week about Jalen.

724
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, when you really look at his

725
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: is just scattering report of him as a player. Currently

726
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: in the NFL. He's not really an a at anything.

727
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't have a speed, he doesn't have

728
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: a arm strength, he's you know, he doesn't have a

729
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's capabilities to break tackles and throw seventy yards

730
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: down the field. But he's basically a B plus or

731
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: a minus and everything. And a lot of times you

732
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: think about athletic quarterbacks, you know, like when Deshaun Watson

733
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: was good several years ago for Houston or younger Russell Wilson,

734
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: they kind of scramble to make the big play. Like

735
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: the underrated part about Jalen. He's actually a very very

736
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: consistent just moving the chains, like, he has no problem

737
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: dumping it off to the right guy, making the right decision.

738
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: He's not always looking to bomb it down the field.

739
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: He's actually a very smart player in terms of his

740
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: decision making. You know, a lot of his turnovers this year,

741
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: it's not really his mo to throw the ball at

742
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: the other because he doesn't really take chances beside on

743
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: the go route where his guys typically win, and he's

744
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: more likely to just keep the drives going. It's why

745
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: a lot of these games that they've been in, they've

746
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: ended up pulling out this year and haven't lost because

747
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: he doesn't do dramatically dumb stuff that sometimes a super

748
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 2: athletic playmaking quarterback can just lean into. Right and Jalen,

749
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: I think this gets back to Nick Saban kind of

750
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: that wiring the way to play making the right decision

751
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: even if it is a dump off to a tight

752
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: end or running back. And the Eagles have really good

753
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: tight ends and running backs, right, So you're right. I mean,

754
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: if they get going, you know, they got a new

755
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator talent wise, because to me, the Niners, their

756
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: impact players don't look as good. They're not playing at

757
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: their level. Where you watch the Eagles, their impact guys

758
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: are playing at that level. And we know how much

759
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: depth they always out held. I mean they just traded

760
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: for a former All Pro safety just to add to

761
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 2: the team last week. Yeah, who's a high character team

762
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: captain level guy.

763
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, So between my preamble and this we've done NFL,

764
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: I want to spend some time on college football because

765
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: I saw Oregon live for the second time, and I

766
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: was three rows back in Washington. I saw end zone

767
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: and forty yard line here, I was three ye rows away.

768
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: Really communicated verbal team Knicks landing the head coach. Michigan,

769
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: to me, is the best football team I've seen. Texas

770
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: is the most physically impressive team I've seen. With Georgia,

771
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: I think this is the best Oregon team I've seen.

772
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: So I watched bow Nicks. First of all, Oregon had

773
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: a fumble. It's the first of the year. Nix throws

774
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: to the right person every single time. Now, whether that's

775
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: coaching or him. Is I if you told me the

776
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: four teams I would put in today, because I do

777
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: think Texas will beat Oklahoma if they play again, and

778
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: Oregon will beat Washington if they play again. Michigan, Georgia, Texas,

779
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: Oregon feels like my four today.

780
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: Washington hasn't looked as good since that.

781
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: Oregan no mean and Oregon. Oregon is good on the perimeter,

782
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: really good in the interior. Washington does not have. And

783
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: you're seeing this. You can run at Washington and they

784
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: don't run. They're not particularly gifted guard center guard on

785
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: their own line. They have good tackles, and they're not

786
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: great in their interior. Oregon could use another receiver, one

787
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: of Washington's four that I like, But Washington could use

788
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: about three of Oregon's defensive players in the D line.

789
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Oregon's big, But the four teams I've seen that, I go,

790
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: that's different. Michigan, Texas will beat Oklahoma again. By the way,

791
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: that Kansas upset was not a huge shock or Kansas

792
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: is really a dangerous team.

793
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: Now, coach is good, really good.

794
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: If you can win at Kansas, you're really good. But

795
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: I watched the Oregon again, John, and they went into

796
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: Utah and that thing was I mean, that first drive

797
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: was just boom boom boom, touchdown. Crowd went silent. It

798
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: was in Utah. You don't go into Utah much and

799
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: physically push around Utah. Oregon did.

800
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: Would you say that game was over basically by the

801
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: end of the first quarter. I mean, you never want

802
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: to count Utah out, but it.

803
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: Was just crowd was and I was sitting among the

804
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: crowd and you could people I was sitting next to.

805
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: It was like whoa, Like it was kind of a

806
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: reality check. They played USC, Utah came down to earth.

807
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: Oregon's just really impressive.

808
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: What was part of the reason we were kind of

809
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: shitting on USC last week is this quarterback's not any

810
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: good and Oregon made him look like, you know, a

811
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: third string pig farmer. Yeah right, I mean right, they

812
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: had no chance. I'm with you. I think Washington. I

813
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: watched a lot of the Washington Stanford game. They got

814
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: very lucky. I mean a kid dropped a pass late. Yep,

815
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: Washington does not. Obviously they threw the kitchen sink won

816
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: that game at home. I think it's fair to say

817
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: from a gambling standpoint, Oregon will be favored in that significantly.

818
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: To me, Michigan, I just wonder, is that how weird

819
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: this thing is going to get the conversation because their

820
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: team clearly if the scandal wasn't going on about this

821
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: guy sending people to all these other games. I mean,

822
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: every day a new story's coming out that they fed

823
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: South Carolina. You know, just is anyone going to get

824
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: in trouble during the season beside them getting rid of

825
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: this guy. That's not really how the NCAA works, But

826
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: they're clearly the best. Hard for me to trust Texas

827
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: that that would be my thing because if you just

828
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: told me that Urban Meyer, Nick Saban or whoever was

829
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: the coach of that roster, you might pick them to

830
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: win the national championship, right, But you know, Stark just

831
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: hasn't proven it. I mean, it's just so even that

832
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: Oklahoma game, which Oklahoma might be a little fools goal,

833
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: they could have lost two weeks ago to UCF. Yeah,

834
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: they were kind of getting worked in that game against Kansas.

835
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: The other thing is to me, yeah, I mean I

836
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: Oregon State lost Oregon's direction. Now to win this conference

837
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: and be right there you said it. I think after

838
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: the Washington game, do you trust bow Knicks? They put

839
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: a stat right when that game started, And a lot

840
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: of this is that COVID year, every player got an

841
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: extra season. No no players ever started and played in

842
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: as many college games as bow Knicks. So we often

843
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: said this forever about BYU. They always had like twenty

844
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: three twenty four year olds. They do have a big

845
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: advantage just in terms of the reps this kid had

846
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: in the SEC, in the tough part of the conference,

847
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: right in that division, and now two straight years in

848
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: Oregon every game is mattered. That is a huge plus.

849
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: But as a player, if they get in a tight game,

850
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: can he consistently make the throws against the Texas, against

851
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: the Georgia, against the Michigan That would be my only question.

852
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: Why they couldn't win the national championship, and I.

853
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: Think the answer is yes. So I've watched him play

854
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: in Seattle in Utah not for a second, and either

855
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: game was he rattled and he played from behind in Seattle. Decisive, accurate.

856
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: He's Derek Carr, but I think a more natural thrower.

857
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: It's a really easy effort for him. Now it could

858
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: be coaches, but he throws to the right person every time.

859
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Oregon makes no mistakes, very few penalties, no fumbles, no interceptions.

860
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: So I think Bone Knicks to me, is not a

861
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: guy that is and we see this in pro football

862
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: where he's playing. He plays great with a run game

863
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: and a head. When I watched him in Seattle, my

864
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: takeaway is Michael Pennix is a better NFL prospect. Bonix

865
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: is a really elite college quarterback with a ton of experience.

866
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to agree. I know people were torn

867
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: on him last year and a lot has to do.

868
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: Do you know what's fascinating about scouting now? He is

869
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: talking to these guys. You talk to the former staff

870
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: at a school and usually sometimes it ends negatively. Sometimes

871
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: they got fired because the guy transferred to whatever. And

872
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: then he goes to a new place and then everyone

873
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: loves him. It's really hard. Now this guy doesn't have

874
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: any character concerns or whatever, but just really trying to

875
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: get to the bottom of a player with all this movement.

876
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: I know for the scouts out there can be difficult

877
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: to just truly gauge the right up on the individual

878
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: because you have so many people with so many different opinions,

879
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: these guys playing multiple Power five schools. You get one

880
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: negative thing, one positive thing. And he's a fascinating case

881
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: study because I would say most people in the SEC

882
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: got very underwhelming, not very good player, and you look

883
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: back and you go, well, was kind of a disaster. Yes,

884
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: Brian Harson got run out of town, so actually it

885
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: might have had little to do with him. It might

886
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: have been all on the program, right, So that's kind

887
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: of what you have to balance because this couldn't have

888
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: gone much better over these last couple of years for him.

889
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: He went from being to me, not an NFL player

890
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: at all to a guy who's going to be talked

891
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 2: about as like a top fifty prospect headed into this draft.

892
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's Caleb is still I mean,

893
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: USC has got lots of problems. Caleb's going one a lot, yeah,

894
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: Drake May's probably going two or three. Harrison may go too,

895
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: depending on who drafts. And then I think Penix feels

896
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: like the third. I saw Penix play bone Knicks. Now

897
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: Penix has better receivers, but it was hard not to

898
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: be impressed. Lanky, lefty, accurate, lot of physical courage, sits

899
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: in the.

900
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: Post, accuracy on the deep balls, beauty.

901
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think bone Nicks then falls into a

902
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: group late first round because this is also a great

903
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: offensive tackle class, very good receiver class, excellent DN class,

904
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: excellent corner class. So I think bon Nicks is going

905
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: to be in that or of somewhere between twenty. Like

906
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who had just missed the playoffs.

907
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, it would it would be kind of like

908
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: a Minnesota would move up six spots or something to

909
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: get a bow Nix. He's got a little Kirk Cousins.

910
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: Although again having watched them twice on the road, it matters.

911
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: You know, at Austin everything's easy. You go to Utah

912
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: and we'll Seattle.

913
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: He look good, I mean more gifted. Brock Purty right

914
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: a little bit whoa way better thrower, but I'm just

915
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: saying about a guy that a lot of college starts

916
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: who just gonna be aero trending up obviously quarterback inflation.

917
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: I know your Trojans, though you probably didn't have on

918
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: your Bingo card fifty to forty nine well memorials.

919
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: You know, when I look at USC, they're not great defensively,

920
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: They're not Michigan Texas. They're not a top eight defensive team.

921
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: They're not this bad. You've seen this in your life.

922
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: A coordinator can make Matt Ryan an MVP. A defensive

923
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: co ordinator Dan Quinn changes everything like you give them

924
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: the right defensive staff, they're okay. But Alex grinch is,

925
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, and this happens. He's just not a coord

926
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: and forget head coach. He's not a coordinator, he's a

927
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: position coach who at Washington State. You know a lot

928
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: of times guys can work at smaller schools because you

929
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: know the athletes they work, They work well with non

930
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: star athletes. Washington State guy Brady Hoke is great coaching

931
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: down at a smaller school. You bring him with four

932
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: and five star guys. At Michigan, they don't buy Brady Hoke.

933
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: They don't buy his right. Alex Grinch with like La kids,

934
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: they just don't buy him. He comes across is He's

935
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: not a very he's not alpha, he's not defiant. He

936
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: looks at times on the sidelines. I mean, you'll see

937
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: these moments with him. He just doesn't even look like

938
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: an elite coach, like Clay Hilton with his mouth open

939
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. You're like, this guy is not a

940
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: head coach at US. And I think with Alex Grinch,

941
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: he's the classic coach who works well at a smaller school.

942
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: But you put stars around him, it doesn't work. They're

943
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: getting worse every weekend.

944
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: But this is one of the benefits to coaching at

945
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: a place like USC. Look at Ryan Day last couple

946
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: of years, defense fall off. You have an unlimited budget,

947
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: Go find the guy that you want, pay him one

948
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars and your defense immediately improves.

949
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: When you're at USC, when you're at Alabama, when you're

950
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: at Ohio State, you can have the pick of the

951
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: litter because of the amount of money that you can

952
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: pay a coordinator. Now, this gets back to what I've

953
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: said about Lincoln Forever. The Mike Leach kind of philosophical beliefs.

954
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: Is how he's wired. Does he know who to pick

955
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: as a defensive coordinator, because let's face it, what was

956
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: the connection to this guy? Obviously Leech had had him

957
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: at Washington State and that I'm sure that was a

958
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: connection where he started following this guy's career and knowing

959
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: about him. So it's not you know, Satan, his pick

960
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: of the litter is NFL College, the whole umbrella. He's

961
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: just going after the cream of the crop, whoever he

962
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: thinks the best, and he can get what he got

963
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: denied by Dubor's guy last year. But that's who he wanted, right,

964
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: he just wouldn't take the job. Don't totally blame him

965
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: to stay with Pennix, but that's who he went after. Is

966
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: Lincoln truly going after the guy that everyone else would want,

967
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: or is he going after a guy Maybe there's a

968
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: connection through this air raid. Flip knows him and that

969
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: that's what gets nervous because the only way to win

970
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: at the highest level. Think about some of Pete's early staffs, right,

971
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: Norm Chow, Sar Klaane, some of the guys he's the

972
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 2: defensive guy, him and Kenny Norton, could recruit and handle that, right,

973
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: But his offensive staff was full of all these innovative

974
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: young guys with some older guys NFL experience. That's when

975
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: And obviously the talent on the field spoke for itself.

976
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: But the coaching in that meeting room in like four

977
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 2: oh five and six was I mean, just anyone listening

978
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: to go back and google some of those staffs and

979
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: you look at Lincoln's you know, defensive staff, You're like,

980
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: does he have the capability to find whoever his you know,

981
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: equivalent of a Demico Ryan or whatever in college? I

982
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: don't know. I think that's going to be the biggest

983
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 2: question mark by far. Because Caleb leaves, Lincoln's proven he

984
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: can find quarterbacks. This is the least of his worries.

985
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you make a really good point, is

986
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: right now, he has been a connection coach, right and

987
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: by the way, who follow him? Who didn't Some of

988
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: the coaches that didn't follow him, you know, we're veteran people.

989
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: That not that they didn't like him, but it tells you,

990
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, when you leave a place, who follows you

991
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: and who doesn't. So it's just a really bad grnches

992
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: over his head. It's a really bad defensive staff. Dante

993
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: Williams in the secondary is a recruiter. Nobody thinks he's

994
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: a great coach. He's a great recruiter. By the way,

995
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: every college staff in the country has a guy that

996
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: can recruit who's not a great what you would call

997
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: schematic coach. So they got some issues. I think they

998
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: can solve a lot with a better DC. I don't

999
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: think the d personnel's this awful, but we'll see. Okay, Chargers, Bears,

1000
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be awful. Chargers, Brandon Staley should be

1001
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: able to win this thing. Cross our fingers on this.

1002
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: John, think you think, you think, have a good week.

1003
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. The volume