WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: O-Line Health 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:17.960 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.280 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:26.439 Absolutely ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.720 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:38.120 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.120 It is thirds the October third, nineteen, season fifteen, episode 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.960 number fifty. Selven, Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.560 We are lives from the s WBC Mortgage. What's going on? Yeah, 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.760 the star I like very rare fist. Let me go, Yeah, 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.480 I got stuff. Yeah, this thing is Darre didn't even know. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.560 He was like, this's episode exact or whatever it is. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.120 Whatever we're doing. We got a lot to do though, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.520 We've got a lot to talk about. There are lots 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.120 of injury issues for this team, and we kind of 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.160 I guess let's go ahead and jump right into those. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.640 Several guys did not practice yesterday, Lyle Collins to our 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.680 own Crawford, Tyren Smith, and then a couple of limited 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.680 guys that that just I want to get some updates 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.759 on Amari Cooper. Obviously he has an ankle injury, Michael 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.319 Gallup with the knee, Chris Jones with a back, to 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.840 Marcus Lawrence with a knee, shoulder, and from what we 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.600 heard this morning, additionally a hill bruise, Zach Martin with 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.320 a back, Antoine Woods with a knee. I guess let's 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.840 start first with just overall talking about de Marcus Lawrence 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.400 because it was the first I'd heard of this hillbruise. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.040 But it sounds like from Garrett that's the biggest issue 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.640 that he's facing right now. There's a lot of like 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.880 when you're dealing with minor stuff that might not keep 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:53.760 you out of the lineup, there's always like conflicting information. Basically. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.840 I don't know if Jason Garrett does that on purpose 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.360 or if he sort of gets his details mixed up. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.440 But he heard his shoulder in the game, and then 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.640 there was a you know, he there was a play 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.160 where he kind of collapsed in and made a tackle 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.359 on the ground and you could tell it kind of 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.520 messed his lower body up, and so people were saying 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:16.720 knee and then he'll and so it's honestly, it's probably 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.680 all of those things playing, but he's playing yes to 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.240 just jump to the jump to the lead of the 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.760 days that um Lyle Collins and Tyrone Smith are the 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.160 only players on the team who were not at practice today. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.200 Lawrence is there, Gallops there, Cooper's there, Antoine Woods is there, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:37.880 Tyrone Crawford right there, Tyrone Crawford. Yeah, they're they're all 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.000 out there. Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll have to 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:41.919 keep an eye on him. But there are only two 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.799 players on the roster who didn't practice today, and of 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.400 those two, it sounds like, again from some of the 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.440 things that we've been hearing, Lyle Collins, this is this 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.560 maybe a situation where they're holding him out, but he 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.840 may be pretty good to go from what we saw today. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.520 I think that it suggests that he will be back. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.680 Because Connor Williams was practicing at right tackle yesterday. Today 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.720 he's back at guard. Brandon Knight, their rookie, is at 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.520 right tackle, and I think that that suggests that Connor 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.600 needs to practice at left guard if he's going to 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.440 play it, Brandon Knight can do it for this day, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.679 and maybe trying to figure out if Brandon Knight's a 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.280 guy that does it well enough that might be active 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.760 for this game. But I would think if if Lyell, 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.000 if they were really worried about it, they would continue 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.160 to work Connor Williams at right tackle unless he was 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.360 terrible at it yesterday. And Brandon Knight's the guy. But 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.480 I don't know. I think we're going to see seventy 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.959 one tomorrow. I think that he doesn't miss a lot, 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.520 I mean a lot of work. As banged up as 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.160 he was a couple of years ago, he never missed 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.880 a snap. He's a tough guy. He'll be out there. 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:42.920 I think he's gonna be there tomorrow. I think they're 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.800 trying to give him as much time to rest as 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.640 back as possible, but I think he'll be there. I 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.080 think I definitely think Amari Cooper and DeMarcus Lawrence aren't 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.920 one hundred percent, But guess what nobody is by week five. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.080 So it is what it is. I hate seeing all 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.880 these back injuries, and that is something that these offense 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.840 linemen have to deal with it. But when you start 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.520 looking at it and talking about it on week five 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:11.520 of the season, it's it's it's frustrating. Well to me, 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:16.560 it's alarming in a way. They all needed. Hey, they 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:20.120 got some sponsor on there to get some beds to 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.719 help out the punters got a back injury, right I 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:27.240 don't know what that practice, but it concerns me. I've 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:31.240 always been very big on back injuries. I suffered from 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.920 a back, so I know what that's like. And when 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:35.839 you look at these guys and the type of things 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.320 that they have to do on the field at their position, 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.880 that scenario that really gets a lot of tension while playing. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.359 So the fact that we we're talking about it this 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:50.440 early this season and that's what three guys I guess, well, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.760 Tyrn it's not a back injury, but Tyro that he 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.400 has dealt with the backa and he's the one that 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.839 doesn't have a back injury right now. It's insane, it's 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:06.000 it sucks. It's not great. Back injuries suck, but it 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.000 is what it is, and they're probably all going to 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:12.800 be dealing with it all season long. Um, just grinned 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.080 and fight through it the best that you can. I mean, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.280 we've seen this for several years at this point, and 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:23.359 it never seems like it drastically alters the level of play. 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.200 Like if Lyall's back hurts this week, then it's probably 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.960 hurt at other times. Since the season started as well, 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.120 and you just do the best you can to get 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.080 through it. And they usually do talk to me about, Um, 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.680 Michael Gallup who returned to practice yesterday, what are we 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.520 hearing about how he how his body responded to a 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.719 day of work back out there a good today, So 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.599 that that's a good sign. Don't foresee any issues there. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.640 I think he's he's ready to go. He's ready. Bryant 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.719 was already giving him the green live or Sunday, Brian, Yeah, 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:57.719 he gets to do that. Apparently if he's out there, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.359 then he's probably got the green light. The thing and 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.599 he said it yesterday is like the doctors told him, 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:06.239 like you can't you can't do any damage to the knee, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.080 Like you can't hurt yourself. It's just a matter of 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.839 like how much can you fight through the pain, because 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.040 I mean, obviously he's still in pain. It's still he's 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.400 still two weeks off surgery. So I think that's just 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.440 a mental thing, which again for the eighteenth time, like 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.800 it sounds crazy to think that he's going to fight 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.159 through the pain of just having undergone surgery. But if 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.080 he can do it, he can do it. I would guess. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.359 I wonder how his game changes though, because you know, 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:34.400 when you're injurance and it's very fresh, you're hesitant in 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.920 your moves, and sometimes you notice that from guys when 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.200 they're moving around on the field. I would guess he's 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.640 not gonna look quite as explosive right off the bat, 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.560 like and just maybe he will, but I would guess not. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.800 And on top of that, he's probably gonna need to 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.120 like catch a pass and get hit and get up 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.239 again before he feels like completely confident. That's just human nature. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.640 Maybe they do it today, just tackle him. Don't do that. 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.000 You don't like that idea, Hey, if you see him 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:00.680 around the billing, why don't you do it. If you're 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.840 gonna if you're gonna do something that might hurt him, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.160 wait until it counts, don't do it. In practice, that 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:06.960 would actually be pretty funny if Nick just runs up 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.640 to him and tackles him. Probably replace me on the 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.160 show or who moves in. I don't know if somebody 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.680 would be replacing you, because I think you'd be here anymore. Yeah, 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.000 And even though the fact that it be documented on 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:23.560 tape that my supervisor said to do that, that wouldn't 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.720 Maybe that means we both would be here maybe we're botal. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.440 All right, we're gonna take our first break. When we 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.720 come back, we're gonna get into day's assessment of this 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.559 Green Bay defense. Today we talk about the defense versus 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.800 the Cowboys offense, where there might be opportunities for the Cowboys, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.920 some of the players that play on that Green Bay defense, 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.040 and some stats that might surprise you a little bit 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.000 about how that defense stacks up. We'll do all that 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.640 when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.880 Com Radio. Your new apartment's big. Such a great deal 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:05.040 that's okay? Just okay? What's not too right? Above the subway? Well, 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:10.400 I bet you don't even notice it after that's my neighbor. Angus. 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.920 A deal that's just okay, is not okay? 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That's 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.640 happening the Sunday three thirty five is the kick time 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.880 here at AT and T Stadium. Dave's gonna give us 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.400 a scouting report on the Green Bay defense, Dave, the GBP. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.679 Did you see the stat from Bobby Belt I did 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.280 A I did Since twenty thirteen, the Cowboys are fifteen 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.520 and four at AT and T when they score thirty 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.760 one and three of the four losses are to Green Bay. Yeah, yikes. Yeah. 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.120 In other words, hate playing these guys. Shootouts are probably 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.640 not in the cards as your best chance to win. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:35.720 Hate hate playing them. But I came away pretty encouraged 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.559 by what I saw against the GBP. D it's the 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.719 Green Bay Packer defense. If you're not up on the 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:45.400 hip lingo like me, tenth in total defense, third in 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.200 passing defense, one hundred and eighty eight yards per game. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.040 Why might that be? Because They're twenty sixth in the 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.960 league in rushing defense, given up an average of one 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.199 hundred and forty two yards per game. They have eight 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:02.160 takeaways on the season. UM, lot of a lot of 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.200 talent here that depending on what you're looking at. Maybe, 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:07.880 I mean it's kind of like they're good and not 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.160 good all at the same time. Kind of. They signed 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.160 two really really good pass rushers over the offseason, the 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:18.120 Smith brothers, Preston and Zadarius Smith. They're not actually brothers, um, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.120 really good players. They they combined for eight sacks already 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.760 this season. Jayre Alexander one of the best young corners 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:30.040 in the game. UM. Definitely in that upper echelon. Kevin 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:34.440 King finally coming into his own after an injury played 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.760 career except oh, he didn't participate in practice yesterday, had 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.880 a really good game against the Philadelphia Eagles the other night. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:47.280 Um n, He's a guy that I always think they 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.600 should have drafted over Took. That's who I wanted them 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.839 to knocked over because that one, to me, that one 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.840 kind of came in late, like after he had done well. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.440 It was more like they could have gotten him. Depends 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.719 on who the Cowboys were not interested in. What. But 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.640 there were a bunch of draft people who thought they 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.319 should draft what at the time. At the time, yes, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.280 absolutely right they were, weren't there a couple of people 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.439 in draft Brian and Dane were both kind of like, 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.760 this is who they should draft, but they don't want 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:24.120 a tweener. Right, it happens. It happens, a rare miss. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.920 We're moving on. That's not the point. That's not the point. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.760 King was in the consideration to King, King was who 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.080 I liked, and he's been good when he's been healthy. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:34.920 But in the second round, he's like the first pick 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.079 of the second round. He has not been healthy often 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.959 enough to I mean, he's the thirty third overall pick. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.760 His career hasn't been that great. Uh. Two really good 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:48.080 safeties Darnell Savage rookie playing really well as their free 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.120 roaming kind of guy. And then they took Adrian Amos 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.439 out of Chicago as they're strong. Really impressed by what 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.959 I saw from him. Kenny Clark is, you know, a 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.640 Pro Bowl caliber nose tackle, and you have Dean Lowry 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.400 and Montevious Adams. I think Adams is a big get 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.480 back for them. He played the first two weeks he 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.880 missed week three and miss week four, but he did 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:15.000 practice yesterday, so that's something to watch. But yeah, like 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.880 I just listed off like this murderer's row of talent, 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.640 and yet I don't know, they don't look they don't 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.719 look so impressive to me when you flip it on, 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.960 at least not in parts like again, really good cornerback play. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.760 Nobody's really passing the ball well on them. But how 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.679 much of that is because how easy it is to 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.679 run on them. We talked about this yesterday and I 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.120 actually looked it up. They had a really good night 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.120 defending the run against the Bears. They held him the 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.280 forty seven yards on twenty two carries. Here's their rushing 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.920 totals for the rest of the season. Vikings carried the 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.760 ball twenty seven times for one ninety eight. Broncos carried 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.120 the ball thirty eight times for one forty nine. Eagles 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.400 carried the ball thirty three times for one seventy six. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.520 And when you flip this stuff on, I watched the 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.880 Eagles game and I watched some Vikings snaps. They get 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.000 moved off the ball off and aspect like the Vikings 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.400 do not have a good offensive line like Eagles, way 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.280 to go. They're great offensive line. You should win that battle. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.679 The Vikings not so much, and they were still able 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.680 to move these guys off the ball, get linebackers moving 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.000 in the wrong direction, create big holes. And then the 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.720 other thing you see is when the like the running 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.680 back hits the hole, and that's troublesome. But then when 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.720 the linebackers and the defensive linemen make contact, you're seeing 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.520 Jordan Howard getting four or five extra yards after that, 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:35.080 like not very impressive tackling and not very good movement 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.000 up front to not give the running back anywhere to go. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:43.040 So like that jumps out at you. And then on 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.080 top of that, let's just stick it, keep it in 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.480 the middle of the field, because it seems like tight 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.800 ends are a great way to go to try to 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.760 get production against these guys. Because again, hobbled Michael Gallup 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.040 hobbled to Maury Cooper, one of the best young corners 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.760 in the game. I wonder how much out i'd passing yards. 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.560 You'll be there for him. So like I'm looking at 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.920 tight ends. Jason Witt and Blake Jarwin, we saw it 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:06.440 last week. It was the only thing they did have 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.200 success with. And then maybe crossing routes, Randal Cobb trying 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.000 to move him across the middle of the field, maybe 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.800 lose somebody in the trash. It just doesn't seem like 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.320 they're strong in the middle of the field as on 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:20.600 the outside. That's kind of my my broad take. So 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.800 let me ask you this on Kevin King, did you 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.320 from what you saw and obviously he's he did not 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.720 participate in practice yesterday, do you think that changes a 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.720 lot from the standpoint of how good their past defense 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.440 has been. You take somebody that again played really really 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.040 well against Philadelphia, take him out of the mix. How 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.640 does that depth look behind him to where does that 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.080 create more opportunities to passing game than maybe they've shown 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.640 in these first first three or four games. So if 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.960 King can't go, it would probably be Tremon Williams, who, 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.840 like you know that name. He's like, I feel like 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.680 he's been in the league for like twenty years. I 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:58.400 think you could go both ways. Is like maybe easier 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.320 to beat him, but he's also like wiley veteran, He's 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.240 probably got some tricks up his sleeve. What's interesting to 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.280 me is they also drafted Josh Jackson out of Iowa 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.360 A couple of years ago, same draft as King. I believe, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.120 oh sorry, led the led college football and interceptions like 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.440 great ball skills, Like he just doesn't appear to be 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.640 the guy. He might be playing Nickel in this game 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.160 because of the injuries they have at cornerback. They got 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.840 another injury Tony Brown, it's probably not going to play 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.960 in this game. And like I've listened to some Packer 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:29.920 podcasts to kind of get a feel for their team, 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.000 and they're like terrified at the thought of this guy 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.760 playing Nickel, so which is a bummer for them because 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.360 he was like a high second round pick. So yeah, 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:42.200 I do think there are there you can exploit this 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.440 matchup because they're so banged up at cornerback. If Alexander's 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.640 the only one of their top guys that's playing, that's good. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.920 But at the same time, your receivers are kind of 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.520 hobbled too, Like Cooper's probably not at one hundred percent 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.720 Gallup definitely isn't, so I wonder if that kind of 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.200 mitigates the advantage that you have in that matchup. This 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.640 is a question for everybody looking at this matchup and 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.520 what Dave was talking about with their their run defense, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.040 it seems like this would be a week that maybe 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.359 the Cowboys offensive line can get back to what it 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.280 was doing in those earlier games. If they can't, then 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.760 I'm concerned. Yeah, even with all the injuries. And that's 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.520 my question is do you think that with the injuries 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.680 that the Cowboys are sustained? Tyren Smith being the most 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.399 important one, but like you said, there are a lot 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.159 of guys that are hobbled, whether they're playing or not. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.520 Do you think that this becomes a challenge even against 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.680 the run defense that seems susceptible, do you think that's 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.600 still a big challenge for this Cowboys offensive line. Yeah, definitely. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.119 I think that the Packers are, you know, catching a 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.159 break that their run defense, which is not that great, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.040 it's going to get a player back, like like Dave said, 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.879 and then also facing an offensive line that won't be 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.960 as good as it normally is because Tyren Smith won't 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.160 be there and why Al Collins won't be one hundred 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:51.760 percent and I don't know if Zach Martin will be 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.040 as well. So yeah, there that is going to be 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.800 more of a challenge than it would be. I don't 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.400 know if it'll be even but I think even even 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.399 when they were healthy. In the last game, they weren't 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.680 performing well. So now the injuries on top of their 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.120 performance from last week, and it makes it even worse. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.880 Not playing as good of the line though this week. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.080 But still, yeah, they're not as good as they were 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.560 heading into that game. I just, like I said, it 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.879 would be troubling if they struggled that much again, given again, 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.440 these are I mean I listed it off. These aren't 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.280 all great teams that were just bullying these guys. It's 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.800 with the exception of Week one, it's been a theme 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.879 three weeks running. Yeah, I said, sorry going If they 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.120 didn't have Week one where the Bears rush for forty 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.520 five yards, they would definitely be dead last. I mean, 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.760 the last three weeks have been terrible for them, but 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.159 they do have that forty five yard game that they 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.120 stopped the Bears. Nobody was playing offense in that game, 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:51.480 and so I think that's preventing them from being even worse. Absolutely, 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.600 a couple other things I want to note. The two Smiths. 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.080 They flop, so you know, it's it's not as simple 0:18:58.119 --> 0:18:59.960 as saying, oh, Cam Fleming is going to have a 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.760 handful with Preston Smith. He'll probably see both of them. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:07.680 If I had to guess Alexander he they do like 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.720 to travel him. They put him on Earth's I mean 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.080 like they'll put him wherever. Not for every snap, but 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.360 like they'll put him wherever. He's really good. He leads 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.120 the NFL in past deflections. I saw that he is six. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.359 I mean, that didn't seem like that would be leading 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.119 the NFL, but I guess after four games, Yeah, that's 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.919 a pretty decent amount. Yeah, this is something I noticed 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.080 just watching the Eagles game. It doesn't pertain to the 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.080 Packers defense so much, but I just like saw it 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:33.639 with the Saints and then we saw it again with 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.720 the I saw it with the Eagles. Is like, how 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.199 come the Cowboys aren't more creative with the way they 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:43.440 call the screen game? Seriously, no, I get it. But like, 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:44.760 there are a bunch of people out there, I think 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.800 listening right now saying oh done, Like that's what people 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.320 have been asking for years. I guess, so why not. 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.399 I don't like, yeah, I'm not some sort of genius, 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.240 but it just sort of dawned on me. Like last 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:59.520 night they ran a play where Jordan Howard like he 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.240 did a fake fly sweep from the slot, sprinted across 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.119 play action to Wins Wins. I think he faked it 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.280 to the other running back and Howard sprinted out to 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.920 the left and the line came with him and it 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.680 turned from a fake fly sweep into a bubble screen 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.800 to the running back and I was like, that's really 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.720 cool and it only got like eight yards, but I 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.200 was like, all the Cowboys ever due is play action 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:25.840 fake to Zeke. He sort of trots out to his right, 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:28.440 Dak does a loop de loop and throws it to 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.280 him like that's they It's only it only ever looks 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.320 that way. There's more than one way to call a screen. 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.080 Correct me if I'm wrong. I think the play that 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.160 the Cowboys ran they ran it in the I think 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.600 the Miami game, and they tried to run it again 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.399 last week where they have both Zeke and Pollard in 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:49.800 the backfield. Pollard takes off sprinting across the offense over 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.760 to the opposite side, and then Dak drops the ball 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.560