WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Adrian Wojnarowski (05-19-20)

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about Lebron James talking about Michael Jordan as

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<v Speaker 1>a teammate and some interesting comments on that. Adrian Wojanarowski,

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<v Speaker 1>the ESPN Senior NBA insider, will join us. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit. Are we inching closer to a season,

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<v Speaker 1>inching closer to not having a season? We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>wos about that. Coming up. Governors of New York, Texas

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<v Speaker 1>in California said yesterday they will support the return of

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<v Speaker 1>professional sports. Now it looks like it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>without fans, and it's a good sign for people rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for the return of sports. There was particular concern about

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<v Speaker 1>New York in California, but now that they're okay with

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<v Speaker 1>teams coming back, leagues can really get to work planning

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<v Speaker 1>this out. Maybe you don't have to have a Plan B.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're able to carry out Plan A, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like Plan B and Plan C are still on

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<v Speaker 1>the agenda. Various practice facilities are opening up around the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the NFL teams are opening up. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>like there's movement, and I know it's been at a

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<v Speaker 1>snail's pace, at least it feels that way, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like one team, one league, one commissioner makes a decision,

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<v Speaker 1>then others will follow. Now, it doesn't mean it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be easy. Major League Baseball laid out a set

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<v Speaker 1>of restrictive guidelines that are going to be hard to meet. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL is reportedly looking at can they incorporate the

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<v Speaker 1>medical mask into the game? Not hearing much from the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>and I view that as a good sign, because it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like when these commissioners are talking, it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>they're putting things out for the media to disseminate, for

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<v Speaker 1>us to provide opinion on it, and then they go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the drawing board. Feels like the NBA is saying,

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<v Speaker 1>let's emerge with a plan, stick to the plan, and

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<v Speaker 1>see if we can make this happen. It's a long process,

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<v Speaker 1>but having buy ins from the governors or the three

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<v Speaker 1>biggest stage is an important step and a reason to

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<v Speaker 1>be cautiously optimistic that we're going to have a full

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<v Speaker 1>slate of sports returning. Here is the Governor of California,

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsom on returning in June sporting events pro sports

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<v Speaker 1>in that first week or so of June without spectators

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<v Speaker 1>and modifications and very prescriptive conditions, also can begin to

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<v Speaker 1>move forward and a number of other sectors of our

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<v Speaker 1>economy will open up again if we hold these trend

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<v Speaker 1>lines in the next number of weeks, and that includes,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, getting a haircut. Okay, now you realize how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly this has changed to last week where the governor said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to extend this for three more months. The

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<v Speaker 1>stay at home. Now here we are. That's why when

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<v Speaker 1>you make these arbitrary deadlines. This is when we're coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we're going to do. It's fluid. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we're able to You get one chance, it feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>to do this right, and that's what the leagues have

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<v Speaker 1>to understand. You got one chance, do it right, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a second wave or a backlash or

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<v Speaker 1>something goes wrong. You ensure that this is the best

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<v Speaker 1>we can do, and we're going to try it because

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like if it doesn't, that's when she seasons

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<v Speaker 1>gets shut down. Here is the Governor of New York,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Cuomo, on opening for business. I also have been

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging major sports teams to plan reopenings without fans, but

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<v Speaker 1>the games could be televised. New York State will help

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<v Speaker 1>those major sports franchises to do just that. Hockeysketball, baseball, football,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever can reopen. We're a ready, willing, enabled partner. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's a big Buffalo Bills fan, so he says he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to see the Buffalo Bills. It's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is what's it going to look like when

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<v Speaker 1>it happens. What's it going to feel like when it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to nine weeks ago. That's when the

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<v Speaker 1>sports world change. That's really when the world changed. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when our country changed. March eleventh, Wednesday saw the sports

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<v Speaker 1>world response escalate dramatically. It ended the day with the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA suspending its season. We started out with the World

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<v Speaker 1>Health Organization declaring the virus a pandemic. Baseball then was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to look at alternative sites. They weren't sure what

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to be able to do contingency plans.

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<v Speaker 1>Could they play baseball in an empty stadium? The NBA

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<v Speaker 1>considered the same initiatives. The Warriors announced they would play

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<v Speaker 1>home games without fans in the foreseeable future. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>IVY League cam sold all spring sports. They canceled their

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<v Speaker 1>basketball tournament. The IVY League canceled their basketball tournament for

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<v Speaker 1>the team to go to the NCAA. That caught our attention,

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<v Speaker 1>But then people responded by saying, yeah, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a moneymaker for the IVY League, so this isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. Okay, this is all on the same day,

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<v Speaker 1>So the Ivy League did that. NCAA announced it would

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<v Speaker 1>hold March Madness without fans after days of pressure to

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<v Speaker 1>do so. You also had Rudy Gobert test positive for

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<v Speaker 1>the virus. The NBA properly suspended its season indefinitely. That's all.

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<v Speaker 1>On March eleventh, five NBA teams quarantined after potential exposure

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<v Speaker 1>to coronavirus from Rudy Gobert. The next day, March twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell the Jazz tested positive. One day after his

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<v Speaker 1>teammate Rudy Gobert tested positive. MLS has spended its season

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty days. The ATP shut down for six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>US Soccer called off its men's national team and women's

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<v Speaker 1>national team friendlies. Every power conference in the NCAA canceled

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<v Speaker 1>their conference tournaments. Big Ten, PAC, twelve, Big East ACC,

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<v Speaker 1>Big twelve SEC decided to end their seasons because of

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<v Speaker 1>the virus. Multiple NFL teams limited travel for coaches in

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<v Speaker 1>scouts they were getting ready for the NFL Draft. Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>announced that it would delay the beginning of the season

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<v Speaker 1>for a minimum of two weeks. This is all within

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<v Speaker 1>a span of forty eight hours. NBA announced that they

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<v Speaker 1>would suspend play for at least thirty days before reassessing.

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<v Speaker 1>Basketball tournaments were canceled men's and women's. On March twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Gobert came out and apologized for people that I endangered,

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<v Speaker 1>and after Round one of the PGA Championship, the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour on Thursday night, canceled the event until the Masters

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<v Speaker 1>all events. That's two days and it's been a long

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<v Speaker 1>nine weeks. We're hopeful. We wanted to come back. It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of signifies that the spirit we have we can

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<v Speaker 1>make it through this. This helps I understand all of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. Here's something that you should really keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on. And once again, you have a lot of leagues, commissioners,

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<v Speaker 1>schools that are waiting for somebody to do something and

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<v Speaker 1>then they can follow. Notre Dame announced that they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>back in August and wrapping up this semester before Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is going to be a trend setter,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is for college football. The president, Reverend John

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<v Speaker 1>Jenkins reimagine fall semester on campus might mean to sports,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly football starts predictably with a hypothetical what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see and what we could see? I should say

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<v Speaker 1>what we could see. You start school on August tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go until October, you finish before Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're done with that first semester. So Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>you're done. Is that when we have football coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>So the students leave, they go on their break, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they don't come back until after Christmas. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>put a football season in that window? So this is

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<v Speaker 1>just a hypothetical to allow these football players to come

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<v Speaker 1>back and play. And how you can do this in

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<v Speaker 1>that timeframe while still allowing students on campus. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a hypothetical, but that's what we're dealing with. We're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with hypotheticals right now, and the question is can we

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<v Speaker 1>get other schools to look at that window there. I

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<v Speaker 1>still think the PAC twelves in a lot of trouble

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<v Speaker 1>here of trying to I told you that they were

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<v Speaker 1>only going to play conference games, and that came out

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday that that's what they're looking at. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to play conference games. Now you have the California

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<v Speaker 1>governor saying we're sort of open for business. That helps them.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL teams in California are they looking at alternative

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<v Speaker 1>sites for the first month of the season. All hypotheticals,

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<v Speaker 1>Plan B, plan C, whatever it is. These are all

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<v Speaker 1>things that they're thinking of. But the governor's coming out

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, Texas and California is really big. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is what's the next step. What's the next

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<v Speaker 1>league to come back? NASCAR came back, no fans, six

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<v Speaker 1>million fans watching, six million viewers, best ratings they've had

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<v Speaker 1>in three years. There a little bit of soccer coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Premier League is going to be coming back. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>inching back, but we should be taking baby steps because

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<v Speaker 1>it comes back to what I said before, we got

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<v Speaker 1>one shot, because if somebody tests positive when we come

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<v Speaker 1>back for the NBA season, we're done. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to do with baseball now? They're saying, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't spit if you're on base how there's just things

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<v Speaker 1>that need to be worked out. Can you hold a

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<v Speaker 1>runner on? How close? I mean that's not six six feet?

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<v Speaker 1>Social distancing, There's a lot of things here still in play.

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<v Speaker 1>But do I think that we're making progress making a

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<v Speaker 1>turn here? I hope. That's all I can do is hope.

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<v Speaker 1>talk about can we play base what is baseball going

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<v Speaker 1>to look like, feel like, sound like when we come back. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Florio we'll join us. We'll talk to him about

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<v Speaker 1>some teams are they getting an unfair advantage that they

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<v Speaker 1>can open up their facilities and other teams can't. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to Florio coming up a little bit later

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<v Speaker 1>on once again Lebron, James has some thoughts about the

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<v Speaker 1>last dance about Michael Jordan is a teammate and of

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<v Speaker 1>course the Lebron haters are going to jump all over this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we might have asked this before, but which

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<v Speaker 1>I the pro sports needs fans of most baseball, college football,

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<v Speaker 1>Pro football, NBA or NHL college football or yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>college football? What about a baseball and all the gate

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<v Speaker 1>they get because they have so many fans that come in,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they also kind of need it or no, well,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, I'm I'm confused though, because if you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying college football fans are part of the event, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>baseball fans aren't, NFL fans aren't necessarily NBA fans aren't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily like college football is part of the college football

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<v Speaker 1>fan experience. As far as losing money, we're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>some of these raw numbers that baseball owners are saying

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<v Speaker 1>what they're going to lose per game without having fans there.

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<v Speaker 1>So one is a business decision. The other one is

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<v Speaker 1>the aesthetics of watching a sporting event and what those

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<v Speaker 1>fans meet to that sporting event. What else aren't they

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<v Speaker 1>tied together? Though? You know it doesn't college football stand

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<v Speaker 1>to lose financially at the water down their product. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but baseball is only talking about the amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>college football. It's about us going to a game. You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not the same passion of going to a baseball

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<v Speaker 1>game as there is going to a college football game.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they're all intertwined because the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of money that's going to be lost here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the reason why you have these athletic directors, these presidents,

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<v Speaker 1>these governors. They're trying to get sports back in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>shape or form because the amount of money that's at

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<v Speaker 1>stake here. Yeah, mcclub. Yeah. I wonder though MLB. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the fans we always show those beer spilling

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<v Speaker 1>videos and the you know, I feel like the experience

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<v Speaker 1>is sitting in a baseball game. We're underrating a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit because that's how I grew up on the sport,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it feels like, is that gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>good TV sport? Yeah? But I don't The fans don't

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<v Speaker 1>matter a baseball game, Okay, I mean, okay, I see

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<v Speaker 1>a foul ball and a guy makes a catch or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and other than that, somebody's doing the wave. But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. College football does, the NFL does, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a home crowd advantage there in certain stadiums. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>true home field advantage. Once last time somebody said, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>they got a great home field advantage in baseball. Not

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<v Speaker 1>at a long time. No, But the truth is, am

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna have to sit and watch nine innings of

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball game? Now? You would probably do that right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd watch an entire baseball game. I watch a NASCAR race, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have another an NBA pole with Woach coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were the NBA, would you consider jumping straight

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<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs. I don't think you can do it

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<v Speaker 1>right away because I think you have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a grace period there. There has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a transitional period for these players. They have to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready and I'm thinking five games. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you two weeks to get ready and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be five games. And then that allows these teams,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there's a couple of teams that might

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<v Speaker 1>be able to still make it into the playoffs. You

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<v Speaker 1>got the standings palling. Yeah, the East is pretty set.

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<v Speaker 1>The Orlando Magic are thirty and thirty five and they

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<v Speaker 1>have the A seed. The Washington Wizards are five games

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<v Speaker 1>behind them, so that would be really tough. The East

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<v Speaker 1>as just about set. The Memphis Grizzlies are thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty three. They have the eighth seed. In the West,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trailblazers and the Pelicans and the Kings and the

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<v Speaker 1>Spurs are all within three games of the A spot. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>four games of the spot. Yeah, if you have three

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<v Speaker 1>games five games there and then you go into the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would do an abbreviated postseason. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>the number of games in each series, I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would try to get as quickly to the conference finals

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA Finals as I can. What else do

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<v Speaker 1>you have in the club? Okay, I have a m J.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron question, but I don't know if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this as early because you're in a good mood

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<v Speaker 1>now and it might get you fired up. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you save it? Okay, we'll save it there. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to WOJ about what are the plans for the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>season to resume? Frank and Ohio joins us. Hey Frank, Hey, Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Frank. See if Frank try again? Age seven seven three?

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<v Speaker 1>Starting not strong? Help the team a little age seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven three d P show. Yeah, we gotta start off, Marvin.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta start off with a great phone call. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't just start and all of a sudden, you go,

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<v Speaker 1>where is Frank? Well, Frankie, you're better than that. Yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>you call on a sports radio show, you'd be ready

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<v Speaker 1>to talk unless he thought, look, Dan doesn't normally take

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls in the first segment, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta be ready there, Come on, Frank, You're better

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<v Speaker 1>than that. All right, Welcome back with our poll question

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<v Speaker 1>and stat of the day play of the day, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to woj about the NBA season, check in with

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<v Speaker 1>Florio as well. We'll talk to some baseball show on Casey.

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<v Speaker 1>Settle on a poll question. Mclovin sitting on one that

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<v Speaker 1>joining us on the program. Wog Good morning, How are you, Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning? I'm great? All right, Where do we stand here?

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<v Speaker 1>The NBA has been pretty quiet. Is that a good

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<v Speaker 1>sign or a bad sign? I think it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>good sign. I mean, if if you're if you want

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<v Speaker 1>the league back, and that's the goal here, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're moving toward that. Dan, and you know, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>putting all the contingencies in place, and really what they're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for is Adam Silver to just kind of hit

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<v Speaker 1>the green light here probably sometime in June. But they've

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<v Speaker 1>been moving toward it and they've got you know, Silver's

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<v Speaker 1>done a pretty remarkable job of keeping a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the details very tight away from his owners, front office,

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<v Speaker 1>the union. In terms of exactly how many teams would

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<v Speaker 1>come back, I think the site is starting to narrow

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<v Speaker 1>down to a one or two site scenario. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly momentum towards the league coming back. Now, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about site or sites, are we talking about Vegas Orlando?

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<v Speaker 1>Are those are the two sites that are in conversations?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Dan, and Orlando has had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>traction and I think the question is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, are they going to put all the teams

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<v Speaker 1>in one place? Are they going to perhaps have teams

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<v Speaker 1>moving among two sites based on an Eastern Western Conference scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one thing Adam Silver has told the players

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<v Speaker 1>and told the owners what he doesn't want or teams

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<v Speaker 1>flying around. You're not going to see what Baseball's proposing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is teams moving around, playing in home stadiums. The

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<v Speaker 1>NBA's focused on a one site, no fans, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to deal with trying to get back into

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<v Speaker 1>arenas again, buildings again for the start of next season.

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<v Speaker 1>So just to recap, you're looking at at least maybe

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<v Speaker 1>one permanent site here for the postseason, or possibly two

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<v Speaker 1>permanent sites with Vegas and Orlando where you have East

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<v Speaker 1>Coast and West Coast teams. And that's possible that that's

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<v Speaker 1>one way they could do it. Dan, they may put

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in one site. The thing that we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>yet and I think they're still working through, is are

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<v Speaker 1>they bringing back off thirty teams, are they bringing back

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<v Speaker 1>just a playoff teams or something maybe in between it

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<v Speaker 1>where you would have let's say the seven. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a talk last there was a vote that was actually

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<v Speaker 1>coming to do for next year, which was the playing

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<v Speaker 1>tournament at the end of the season. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago. That's all we are talking about. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the big issue in the league. Play tournament, mid

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<v Speaker 1>season tournament. But they could they could and bring these

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<v Speaker 1>teams back, do a play in tournament that might that

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<v Speaker 1>might take you through the ten seed or maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve seed. And you know, then it's how many

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<v Speaker 1>teams are you bringing back? Do you leave out maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom few teams in each conference? But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have I think they've discussed all of that Dan, but

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<v Speaker 1>they still may very well bring back all thirty. There

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<v Speaker 1>maybe teams who don't want to be left out in

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<v Speaker 1>that way. And this is where it gets tough for

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Silver, when you have to start making decisions. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's handling of the matter has been very popular

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<v Speaker 1>within the league and probably even outside of the league,

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<v Speaker 1>but it gets more difficult when you start to have

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<v Speaker 1>decisions made that have consequences impact people, and then people

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<v Speaker 1>are less happy with you. Has everybody been paid all

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<v Speaker 1>of the players their entire salaries well starting on May fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't even know what the data is anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's starting out May fifteenth, they

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<v Speaker 1>started to withhold twenty five percent of the players remaining salaries,

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<v Speaker 1>so that if games are canceled, then I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can assume there'll at least be some regular season games canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to come back and be able to

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<v Speaker 1>play them all. Then the owners take back a percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of that money. It's basically one percent of the players

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<v Speaker 1>salaries based on how many games they miss, and so

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<v Speaker 1>now they've had withholding taking taken from their salaries so

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have to take it all out at once

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the season. It's the nineteenth wo

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<v Speaker 1>I was wrong. I'm right there with you, like I

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<v Speaker 1>at least know the month. I don't know the day.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to. Adrian Wojnarowski, ESPN Senior NBA Insider. Are

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<v Speaker 1>the powerbrokers in involved in this, Chris Paul, Lebron James,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other notable players with the commissioner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul is the president of the Players Association, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's very much in that conversation. Dan Him,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Roberts, Adam Silver. They talk frequently the one advantage

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<v Speaker 1>that Silver has in this scenario, maybe even over baseball

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I think there's a stronger relationship between the

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<v Speaker 1>star players and the commissioner, maybe not necessarily owners, but

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner, and that helps in selling what has to

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<v Speaker 1>be sold here, which is the one site concept. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's gotten feedback from the players about how they feel

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<v Speaker 1>about that bubble idea, what they might like and not

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<v Speaker 1>like about it, because he really needs the cooperation of

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<v Speaker 1>the Players Association, and by extension, really the star players

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<v Speaker 1>because they do drive maybe more than any other sport.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they drive the conversation among the four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty players in the league. And if you can

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<v Speaker 1>sell your star players and what it is that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to accomplish, how you need to do it, they

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<v Speaker 1>can go out and start selling it with their peers too.

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<v Speaker 1>And Adam Silver's understood that and he has made his

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<v Speaker 1>star players a big part of the conversation because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of real difficult economic conversations coming between the

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<v Speaker 1>union and the players. Are the union in the league

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to have to alter how the salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap looks for next year, and luxury tax and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of boring, dry financial topics that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely have a big impact on competitive balance in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>What the league's really worried about, Dan is not so

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<v Speaker 1>much what happens this summer, but what happens next year

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<v Speaker 1>if they can't have fans in arenas, or if they

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<v Speaker 1>have to have like a social distancing situation with fans,

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<v Speaker 1>where in a twenty thousand seat arena, maybe you can

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<v Speaker 1>only have four thousand or five thousand people. And how

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<v Speaker 1>do you manage that? Because the revenue stream of the league,

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<v Speaker 1>forty percent of it depends upon basically game night receipts.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this sounds crazy, but if we start to

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<v Speaker 1>inch closer to deeper into the summer, is there any

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<v Speaker 1>chance the commission or would say, I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 1>the two top teams in the East and the two

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<v Speaker 1>top teams in the West. Therefore I can cut down

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<v Speaker 1>the travel and the number of people involved in this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can reduce the odds of somebody testing positive.

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<v Speaker 1>You basically have a final four for the NBA. Could

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<v Speaker 1>you ever see it? Because they're they're bounding determined to

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<v Speaker 1>crown a champion here wog, they are determined to crown

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 1>a champion Dan, but I think they want to crown

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate champion, and I don't think that would I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they would see that as legitimacy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>there won't be a playoff team left behind now after

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff teams that may still be up for debate.

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<v Speaker 1>But one thing Adam Silver did say and a call

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<v Speaker 1>with the players, that his goal was to have seven

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<v Speaker 1>game series in each playoff round and that they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>cut it down to a best of five in any

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<v Speaker 1>round and try to make the champion as legitimate as

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<v Speaker 1>it can be. Yeah, I had heard that they were

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<v Speaker 1>they were looking at a five game series for the

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<v Speaker 1>first round and then they would eventually get to seven games.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're refuting that with your information, so I start

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<v Speaker 1>to trust that when you say they were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>I do think they were talking about it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they knew all of it was based on how many

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<v Speaker 1>days do we have to play with here? How many

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<v Speaker 1>days do we have? But the goal is to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in seven game series. But that doesn't mean they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't discussed. They've discussed everything, and I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the conversations. What would that look like?

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<v Speaker 1>I know their preference is to try to keep those

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs best of seven all the way through. Here's what

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't want in the first round. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want a one eight upset like this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing you want is a five game series

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<v Speaker 1>where the eighth seed has a better chance. I mean,

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>come about, we know you don't really want that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll leave you with this. Are we pushing back the

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one season no matter what happens the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the summer. I think it's increasingly likely, Dan, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think pushing it back gives the league next year

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<v Speaker 1>more more time to have more dates where they could

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 1>have fans in the arena, because if you if you

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>started in mid October, what you can't do anyway, If

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>this season pushes into late September into September, it just

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>buys the league more time to kind of kick kick

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.439
<v Speaker 1>the can down the road to have fans and buildings,

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>because that's what they're really worried about. If you were

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<v Speaker 1>covering Jordan now in that last year with the questions

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>that have emerged from that, like how would you approach

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that as an NBA insider of you know, the flu game,

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 1>or then food poisoning game, Jerry Kraus, Phil Jackson, you know,

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>can you bring him back? Like could you let us

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<v Speaker 1>into your world of how you think you would have

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>approached that in today's world. I think that one difference

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Dan might have been and there was a mortal NBA

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>writers media then who are covering a day to day

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I think there's more attention now on the salary cap

0:26:54.200 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and the financial impact of the decision Scottie Pitt might

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>have had on a one year, fourteen million dollar deal

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>verse doing the sign and trade. I think there would

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>have been more attention paid to the economics and the

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>cap and how difficult it would have been to bring

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the whole group back. I think that's probably a small

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>difference in it, not the other stuff. With Jordan, I

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>think it was all covered. I just think we I

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>just think it was covered in newspapers, it was covered

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>as Sports Center. I don't get the sense it wasn't

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>all covered. I just think that the platforms were different

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't inundate us like it might with social

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>media now. But how would social media have affected Michael Jordan?

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Good question. It's affected every great player that I've ever

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.959
<v Speaker 1>covered or been around, and because if you're looking for slights,

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like hey, the social media is not the place to

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>go for self affirmation, like if you're looking to feel

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<v Speaker 1>better about yourself, it's generally not the place you'd go,

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>probably even for Michael Jordan. Yeah, hey, Wog, great stuff

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 1>and thanks for joining us. We appreciate your time absolutely. An.

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>That's Adrian Wojnarowski the WOJE podcast there where he discusses

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the hottest topics around the league only on the podcast. Yeah,

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you're you know how we cover the NBA now as

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>opposed to how it was covered back then. Social media

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>is so you know, it's it's omnipresent there and no

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>matter what happens, no matter what said, how it said,

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it's always interpreted differently with the number of critics, so

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>called critics that you'll have on social media there. And

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if Michael how he would have handled any

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>type of criticism that he would have gotten, because it

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>felt like in Chicago there were people who had to

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>ask some tough questions. Outside of Chicago, it felt like

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody was there for the ride. You wanted to see

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the amusement park in Chicago, you still had to cover

0:28:56.680 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>these things. Now, did you go all in? Did you

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>go you know, Woodward and Bernstein here on Michael, Jordan

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and the bulls. Probably not. You don't want to bite

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the hand that feeds. And we do know Mike can

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>hold a grudge for a decade or two or three.

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't hold a grudge. He strangles a grudge than kids. Damn.

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, a couple of phone calls in here. All

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<v Speaker 1>the Coup's back, Frank and Ohio is back. Hey Frank,

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Hey Dan, how are you doing? What happened? My phone

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>tapped out? I just want I had it on speakerphone

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>so I could hear it in the next you know,

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I heard a little, I said, I heard nothing. I

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, what the heck happened? And somehow my call

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>is blanked out? So my apologies on that. Well wait,

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>are you calling with the same phone that died? Frank?

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh No? Okay, okay, yes, calling from the neighborhood of Springfield, Ohio.

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I have a two part questions, okay, all right. First

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<v Speaker 1>one is since and kind of touched upon it, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you talk about the advantage of Jordan would

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>have complayment today's NBA. Do you think it's burnout would

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>have been accelerated because of all the media coverage. He

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>would have been burned up sooner. And the second question

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>is would you consider doing a last dance if you

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<v Speaker 1>mean you was going to retire even at the rest

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>of your reputation of being a nice guy? Would I

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>or Jordan, you know, would you do a last dance

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>documentary your last year on the air? No? No, I

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think so, but thank you, Frank. Social media probably

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>would have sped up the process here with Michael Jordan's

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>social media, with his baseball career, would have really roughed

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>him up. Basketball was hard to complain with what you

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>saw with Michael Baseball social media would have roughed Michael up.

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And No, I wouldn't want to do a last dance

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes. I mean, we we're doing a documentary.

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Every single day. Everything is documented. It's all in front

0:30:54.560 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>of you. We have thirteen cameras in here, so I

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know what else they would show you because even

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>during the commercial breaks you get to hear what we're

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Yeah, Paul, if there is a behind the

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>scenes documentary of this show, you'll be drastically bored. I mean,

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine us there's someone's shooting a couple of

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>free throws, someone's making eggs. Yeah, that's sort of what

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>we do. You get to watch us do this. You

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>get to watch us make the sausage. Literally, watch us

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>make the sausage. Bryce in Minnesota joins us, Hey, Bryce,

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>what do you have for me today? Adp ten Hey,

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to bring up an interesting tidboot. I listened

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>to Pardon My Take from Marcel Sports with PFT and

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Big Chat yesterday and they had Carl Malone on, and

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I recall back to the Last Dames documentary

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and Jason yesterday said that they asked Carl a hundred times,

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they got to know every single time.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>But yesterday on PMT they asked Carl if he had

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<v Speaker 1>got asked to do the interview and just hard no,

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>simple no. So I just wanted to bring that up. Okay, Well,

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Bryce, Yeah, Paul, Yeah, I talked to the

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>guys a part of my take because I heard that

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>yesterday they asked him briefly, were you asked to do

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the Jordan documentary? And he said no, but he also

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>told him he didn't want to talk about Jordan in

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing before and during that he didn't want

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Jordan, so he both. He said that

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't really one confused, he wasn't. Briefly on the air,

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>were you asked to me in the document? No? Did

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the director Jason Hare asked Karl Malone to be in

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the document? Yes, Jason confirmed to me that he asked.

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>He asked Karl Malone directly and indirectly a dozen different

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>times over the course of two years, and made every

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>effort to come to him to do a dual interview

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>with him in Stockton in every fashion, and Carmelon saying

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>he was not asked though, well, that doesn't make sense

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>that Karl Malone wasn't ask right, which he was, Carlon,

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it's silly. I leave what you know, Jason Harris saying that, hey,

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I reached out to everybody. They interviewed one hundred and

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>six people. Are you trying to tell me that Karl Malone,

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<v Speaker 1>who played an integral part in the final sequence of

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Jordan's Final days, that doesn't make sense at all. Brian

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Russell was asked. Brian Russell didn't respond to being interviewed

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>for the last Dance documentary, and Brian Russell is only

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<v Speaker 1>a footnote as he's there when Jordan, you know, gets

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the shot off against him. That's hit. That's all anybody

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>ever talks about when they mentioned Brian Russell. That's it.

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Karl Malone, Karl Malone's what the second all time leading

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>score in NBA history, won the MVP that year. Karl

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Malone would have been one of the guys if you

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>go top ten guys we got to get for the

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>documentary aside from the bulls, Karl Malone's in the top

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>ten of guys that you're going to seek out. He

0:33:56.520 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>in Stockton, but more Karl Malone than Stockton. All right,

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a break. Play of the day coming up.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Lebron James talks about being Michael Jordan's teammate. Oh my god,

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:13.680
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0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>The Dan Patrick Show, Nick and San diego back on

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the show. Hi, Nick, what do you have for me today?

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Danny Buddy good sir? What's on your mind? Nick? So

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>me being from San Diego, I was thinking, this is

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<v Speaker 1>an idea. What if the Pact twelve maybe broke into

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>like a North and the South, and like, for example,

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the Southern Impact twel absorbed like the Mountain Wet Conference,

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>to add more teams to be able to play in

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>a closer reference, so that way, like UCLA play San

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Diego stick as opposed to having to go all the

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>way to air Well. I think it's a good idea

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 1>and concept, but it's not going to happen. Thank you, Nick.

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>We're going to have Chip Kelly on ucla s head

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>coach I believe is joining us tomorrow. Yeah. The Pact

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>twelve is trying to sort this out. They're just going

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>to have conference games. Here was what I was told

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>yesterday reinforced today, and that is the other conferences are

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>looking at the SEC and saying the SEC is planning

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>on coming back in June. When you have the alpha

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>dog here, that's when everybody else is going, well wait

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a minute here, you know they're USC and Alabama is

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>not going to happen. In Texas, in Arlington, in j

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in Jerry's stadium. There, it's not going to happen. Alabama

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>might end up playing TCU because TCU is local and

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.240
<v Speaker 1>they can still play that game. I don't see USC

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>in Alabama playing, you know, to kick off the college

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>football season. PAC twelve. Not quite sure what's going to

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 1>happen with their schools. Can you travel? You're stretched all

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>over the place, you know, different how many different states

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>are involved here in the proximity, although California maybe now

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>open for business will help. But the SEC is the

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>alpha dog here folks, and they're planning on coming back

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>in June. So that's something to keep an eye on,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, McLevin, you got a pull question? Yeah, I

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>went ahead and put it up there for clicks. The

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>question is who would you rather have as a teammate,

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Lebron or MJ. And there's already some Twitter feedback that

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 1>it's too obvious, too obvious who I want is my teammate. Yeah,

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>people are saying, of course you aren't Lebron because he's

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.879
<v Speaker 1>going to pass you the ball. More some people are saying, yeah,

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I understand that, but you might say, am I going

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>to win? Like how important is winning in all of this? Also,

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you might go, how enjoyable is this going to be?

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Because we can look out as outsiders and go, man,

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that must have been crazy, but you're still winning championships.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Those guys who were part of this, I don't know

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>how much enjoyment was there. I think there's a whole

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of enjoyment now when you take a victory lap.

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they enjoyed this like we did

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>watching it. Yeah, I would want Lebron as my teammates

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>as long as Michael Jordan isn't somebody else's teammates. Do

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying? Like, if Michael Jordan's on

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the league, sure, I want Lebron as my teammate. Reggie

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>said it yesterday he would have liked Lebron as his teammate.

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>And then you asked him what gives you a better

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>chance to win? He goes, Oh. Michael Lebron was asked

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the after Party podcast and he was asked about playing

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 1>with Michael Jordan. He had this to say, I don't

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>know me person is the way I played the game

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 1>where it comes to like team first. I just feel

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>like my best assets worked perfectly. With Mike, Mike is

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>an assassin. Mike's an assassin when it comes to that

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 1>playing a game of basketball and the way he scored

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>the ball, you know, my ability to pass or my

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>ability to read the game. And they're just taking the challenge.

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I love when a teammate come me and challenge

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>me and tell me, okay, all right, come on now,

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>R six. You know when I was in Miami, d Way,

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>he used to be like, all right, six, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, t Lou used to challenge me a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was in Cleveland. He'd be like, all right, Broun,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're waiting on him? You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just see that from Mike, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like our games, which is a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a perfect you know, correlation to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to just be successful. Okay, that's the current philosophy of

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA partner up. Now that Lebron is not saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is how it's going to be viewed. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be the prism that it's viewed through, is, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron couldn't beat Michael, he would want to join Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what he's saying he's asked about this, how

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<v Speaker 1>would you you know, when if you're playing with Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>how would your abilities assets fit in with Michael Jordan?

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<v Speaker 1>He said they would be great. You know, he would

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<v Speaker 1>be an upgrade over Scottie Pippen, is what he's saying. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the difference, though, if you ask Michael Jordan this,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael would I'm just guessing here, but knowing my Michael

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, I would think if somebody said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how would your skill level match up with Lebron as

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<v Speaker 1>a teammate, and knowing Michael, he would probably say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to him, miss my teammate. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to beat him. If you ask him back in the nineties, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you think you would How would it work

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<v Speaker 1>with you in magic? Oh? I don't want to play

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<v Speaker 1>with magic. I want to beat magic. Like that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the philosophy. That's the mentality of Michael Jordan. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that that's Lebron's approach to this. He's asked

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's a specific question about you being a

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<v Speaker 1>teammate of Michael's and instead of hey, I would fit in,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would rather go Again, if you ask Kobe this, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you and Mike, you know, fared with each

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<v Speaker 1>other's teammates. Kobe would say, what, oh, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be his teammate. I want to beat him. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a different mentality there. And I know this. All

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<v Speaker 1>this does is it resurfaces the argument of Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James. Nobody changes their opinion on this. No one

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<v Speaker 1>ever changes their opinion, and now with this documentary, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not changing your opinion anytime. If Lebron gets seven titles,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still not going to be greater than Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>To people, it's never going to happen. He can be

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<v Speaker 1>the all time leading scorer, he can be top ten

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<v Speaker 1>and assist. He's not going to be viewed as better

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<v Speaker 1>than Michael Jordan because he is different Kobe. You could

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<v Speaker 1>view him as approaching Michael Jordan, not Lebron. Kobe is

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<v Speaker 1>closer to Michael. If you want to make those comparisons,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have an apt comparison. They're the same players.

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<v Speaker 1>But as Kobe acknowledged, I'm not me without Michael, and

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron acknowledges that as well, the impact that Michael had

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<v Speaker 1>on him. But we love the argument. It's a never

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<v Speaker 1>ending argument. It's a tiresome argument, and nobody's changing their opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron talks about playing football. Wanted to play for the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually saw him play a high school football game.

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<v Speaker 1>He wore the number nine. I'll tell you why he

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<v Speaker 1>wore the number nine. Coming up next hour, One Hour

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<v Speaker 1>in the Books, Two more to go. Dan Patrick's show,