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Speaker 1: in a little bit. Are we inching closer to a season,
Speaker 1: inching closer to not having a season? We'll talk to
Speaker 1: wos about that. Coming up. Governors of New York, Texas
Speaker 1: in California said yesterday they will support the return of
Speaker 1: professional sports. Now it looks like it's going to be
Speaker 1: without fans, and it's a good sign for people rooting
Speaker 1: for the return of sports. There was particular concern about
Speaker 1: New York in California, but now that they're okay with
Speaker 1: teams coming back, leagues can really get to work planning
Speaker 1: this out. Maybe you don't have to have a Plan B.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're able to carry out Plan A, but it
Speaker 1: feels like Plan B and Plan C are still on
Speaker 1: the agenda. Various practice facilities are opening up around the nation.
Speaker 1: Some of the NFL teams are opening up. It feels
Speaker 1: like there's movement, and I know it's been at a
Speaker 1: snail's pace, at least it feels that way, but it
Speaker 1: feels like one team, one league, one commissioner makes a decision,
Speaker 1: then others will follow. Now, it doesn't mean it's going
Speaker 1: to be easy. Major League Baseball laid out a set
Speaker 1: of restrictive guidelines that are going to be hard to meet. Here.
Speaker 1: The NFL is reportedly looking at can they incorporate the
Speaker 1: medical mask into the game? Not hearing much from the NBA,
Speaker 1: and I view that as a good sign, because it
Speaker 1: feels like when these commissioners are talking, it feels like
Speaker 1: they're putting things out for the media to disseminate, for
Speaker 1: us to provide opinion on it, and then they go
Speaker 1: back to the drawing board. Feels like the NBA is saying,
Speaker 1: let's emerge with a plan, stick to the plan, and
Speaker 1: see if we can make this happen. It's a long process,
Speaker 1: but having buy ins from the governors or the three
Speaker 1: biggest stage is an important step and a reason to
Speaker 1: be cautiously optimistic that we're going to have a full
Speaker 1: slate of sports returning. Here is the Governor of California,
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom on returning in June sporting events pro sports
Speaker 1: in that first week or so of June without spectators
Speaker 1: and modifications and very prescriptive conditions, also can begin to
Speaker 1: move forward and a number of other sectors of our
Speaker 1: economy will open up again if we hold these trend
Speaker 1: lines in the next number of weeks, and that includes,
Speaker 1: for example, getting a haircut. Okay, now you realize how
Speaker 1: quickly this has changed to last week where the governor said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to extend this for three more months. The
Speaker 1: stay at home. Now here we are. That's why when
Speaker 1: you make these arbitrary deadlines. This is when we're coming back.
Speaker 1: This is what we're going to do. It's fluid. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we're able to You get one chance, it feels like,
Speaker 1: to do this right, and that's what the leagues have
Speaker 1: to understand. You got one chance, do it right, so
Speaker 1: you don't have a second wave or a backlash or
Speaker 1: something goes wrong. You ensure that this is the best
Speaker 1: we can do, and we're going to try it because
Speaker 1: it feels like if it doesn't, that's when she seasons
Speaker 1: gets shut down. Here is the Governor of New York,
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo, on opening for business. I also have been
Speaker 1: encouraging major sports teams to plan reopenings without fans, but
Speaker 1: the games could be televised. New York State will help
Speaker 1: those major sports franchises to do just that. Hockeysketball, baseball, football,
Speaker 1: whoever can reopen. We're a ready, willing, enabled partner. And
Speaker 1: he's a big Buffalo Bills fan, so he says he
Speaker 1: wants to see the Buffalo Bills. It's going to happen.
Speaker 1: The question is what's it going to look like when
Speaker 1: it happens. What's it going to feel like when it happens.
Speaker 1: I go back to nine weeks ago. That's when the
Speaker 1: sports world change. That's really when the world changed. That's
Speaker 1: when our country changed. March eleventh, Wednesday saw the sports
Speaker 1: world response escalate dramatically. It ended the day with the
Speaker 1: NBA suspending its season. We started out with the World
Speaker 1: Health Organization declaring the virus a pandemic. Baseball then was
Speaker 1: starting to look at alternative sites. They weren't sure what
Speaker 1: they were going to be able to do contingency plans.
Speaker 1: Could they play baseball in an empty stadium? The NBA
Speaker 1: considered the same initiatives. The Warriors announced they would play
Speaker 1: home games without fans in the foreseeable future. Then the
Speaker 1: IVY League cam sold all spring sports. They canceled their
Speaker 1: basketball tournament. The IVY League canceled their basketball tournament for
Speaker 1: the team to go to the NCAA. That caught our attention,
Speaker 1: But then people responded by saying, yeah, but it's not
Speaker 1: a moneymaker for the IVY League, so this isn't a
Speaker 1: big deal. Okay, this is all on the same day,
Speaker 1: So the Ivy League did that. NCAA announced it would
Speaker 1: hold March Madness without fans after days of pressure to
Speaker 1: do so. You also had Rudy Gobert test positive for
Speaker 1: the virus. The NBA properly suspended its season indefinitely. That's all.
Speaker 1: On March eleventh, five NBA teams quarantined after potential exposure
Speaker 1: to coronavirus from Rudy Gobert. The next day, March twelfth,
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell the Jazz tested positive. One day after his
Speaker 1: teammate Rudy Gobert tested positive. MLS has spended its season
Speaker 1: for thirty days. The ATP shut down for six weeks.
Speaker 1: US Soccer called off its men's national team and women's
Speaker 1: national team friendlies. Every power conference in the NCAA canceled
Speaker 1: their conference tournaments. Big Ten, PAC, twelve, Big East ACC,
Speaker 1: Big twelve SEC decided to end their seasons because of
Speaker 1: the virus. Multiple NFL teams limited travel for coaches in
Speaker 1: scouts they were getting ready for the NFL Draft. Baseball
Speaker 1: announced that it would delay the beginning of the season
Speaker 1: for a minimum of two weeks. This is all within
Speaker 1: a span of forty eight hours. NBA announced that they
Speaker 1: would suspend play for at least thirty days before reassessing.
Speaker 1: Basketball tournaments were canceled men's and women's. On March twelfth,
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert came out and apologized for people that I endangered,
Speaker 1: and after Round one of the PGA Championship, the PGA
Speaker 1: Tour on Thursday night, canceled the event until the Masters
Speaker 1: all events. That's two days and it's been a long
Speaker 1: nine weeks. We're hopeful. We wanted to come back. It
Speaker 1: kind of signifies that the spirit we have we can
Speaker 1: make it through this. This helps I understand all of
Speaker 1: those things. Here's something that you should really keep an
Speaker 1: eye on. And once again, you have a lot of leagues, commissioners,
Speaker 1: schools that are waiting for somebody to do something and
Speaker 1: then they can follow. Notre Dame announced that they're coming
Speaker 1: back in August and wrapping up this semester before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a trend setter,
Speaker 1: and this is for college football. The president, Reverend John
Speaker 1: Jenkins reimagine fall semester on campus might mean to sports,
Speaker 1: particularly football starts predictably with a hypothetical what you're going
Speaker 1: to see and what we could see? I should say
Speaker 1: what we could see. You start school on August tenth,
Speaker 1: and then you go until October, you finish before Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: and then you're done with that first semester. So Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: you're done. Is that when we have football coming back?
Speaker 1: So the students leave, they go on their break, and
Speaker 1: then they don't come back until after Christmas. Can you
Speaker 1: put a football season in that window? So this is
Speaker 1: just a hypothetical to allow these football players to come
Speaker 1: back and play. And how you can do this in
Speaker 1: that timeframe while still allowing students on campus. It's just
Speaker 1: a hypothetical, but that's what we're dealing with. We're dealing
Speaker 1: with hypotheticals right now, and the question is can we
Speaker 1: get other schools to look at that window there. I
Speaker 1: still think the PAC twelves in a lot of trouble
Speaker 1: here of trying to I told you that they were
Speaker 1: only going to play conference games, and that came out
Speaker 1: yesterday that that's what they're looking at. They're going to
Speaker 1: try to play conference games. Now you have the California
Speaker 1: governor saying we're sort of open for business. That helps them.
Speaker 1: The NFL teams in California are they looking at alternative
Speaker 1: sites for the first month of the season. All hypotheticals,
Speaker 1: Plan B, plan C, whatever it is. These are all
Speaker 1: things that they're thinking of. But the governor's coming out
Speaker 1: in New York, Texas and California is really big. Now.
Speaker 1: The question is what's the next step. What's the next
Speaker 1: league to come back? NASCAR came back, no fans, six
Speaker 1: million fans watching, six million viewers, best ratings they've had
Speaker 1: in three years. There a little bit of soccer coming back.
Speaker 1: Premier League is going to be coming back. So we're
Speaker 1: inching back, but we should be taking baby steps because
Speaker 1: it comes back to what I said before, we got
Speaker 1: one shot, because if somebody tests positive when we come
Speaker 1: back for the NBA season, we're done. What are you
Speaker 1: going to do with baseball now? They're saying, hey, you
Speaker 1: can't spit if you're on base how there's just things
Speaker 1: that need to be worked out. Can you hold a
Speaker 1: runner on? How close? I mean that's not six six feet?
Speaker 1: Social distancing, There's a lot of things here still in play.
Speaker 1: But do I think that we're making progress making a
Speaker 1: turn here? I hope. That's all I can do is hope.
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Speaker 1: poll question Nick Lovin, what do you have for me today? Okay,
Speaker 1: I think we might have asked this before, but which
Speaker 1: I the pro sports needs fans of most baseball, college football,
Speaker 1: Pro football, NBA or NHL college football or yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: college football? What about a baseball and all the gate
Speaker 1: they get because they have so many fans that come in,
Speaker 1: I feel like they also kind of need it or no, well,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm I'm confused though, because if you're
Speaker 1: saying college football fans are part of the event, whereas
Speaker 1: baseball fans aren't, NFL fans aren't necessarily NBA fans aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily like college football is part of the college football
Speaker 1: fan experience. As far as losing money, we're looking at
Speaker 1: some of these raw numbers that baseball owners are saying
Speaker 1: what they're going to lose per game without having fans there.
Speaker 1: So one is a business decision. The other one is
Speaker 1: the aesthetics of watching a sporting event and what those
Speaker 1: fans meet to that sporting event. What else aren't they
Speaker 1: tied together? Though? You know it doesn't college football stand
Speaker 1: to lose financially at the water down their product. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but baseball is only talking about the amount of money
Speaker 1: college football. It's about us going to a game. You don't.
Speaker 1: There's not the same passion of going to a baseball
Speaker 1: game as there is going to a college football game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're all intertwined because the bottom line is
Speaker 1: the amount of money that's going to be lost here.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why you have these athletic directors, these presidents,
Speaker 1: these governors. They're trying to get sports back in some way,
Speaker 1: shape or form because the amount of money that's at
Speaker 1: stake here. Yeah, mcclub. Yeah. I wonder though MLB. I
Speaker 1: feel like the fans we always show those beer spilling
Speaker 1: videos and the you know, I feel like the experience
Speaker 1: is sitting in a baseball game. We're underrating a little
Speaker 1: bit because that's how I grew up on the sport,
Speaker 1: and now it feels like, is that gonna be a
Speaker 1: good TV sport? Yeah? But I don't The fans don't
Speaker 1: matter a baseball game, Okay, I mean, okay, I see
Speaker 1: a foul ball and a guy makes a catch or something,
Speaker 1: and other than that, somebody's doing the wave. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. College football does, the NFL does, because there's
Speaker 1: a home crowd advantage there in certain stadiums. There's a
Speaker 1: true home field advantage. Once last time somebody said, boy,
Speaker 1: they got a great home field advantage in baseball. Not
Speaker 1: at a long time. No, But the truth is, am
Speaker 1: I gonna have to sit and watch nine innings of
Speaker 1: a baseball game? Now? You would probably do that right now,
Speaker 1: you'd watch an entire baseball game. I watch a NASCAR race, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have another an NBA pole with Woach coming up.
Speaker 1: If you were the NBA, would you consider jumping straight
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. I don't think you can do it
Speaker 1: right away because I think you have to have a
Speaker 1: little bit of a grace period there. There has to
Speaker 1: be a transitional period for these players. They have to
Speaker 1: get ready and I'm thinking five games. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you two weeks to get ready and then there's
Speaker 1: gonna be five games. And then that allows these teams,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a couple of teams that might
Speaker 1: be able to still make it into the playoffs. You
Speaker 1: got the standings palling. Yeah, the East is pretty set.
Speaker 1: The Orlando Magic are thirty and thirty five and they
Speaker 1: have the A seed. The Washington Wizards are five games
Speaker 1: behind them, so that would be really tough. The East
Speaker 1: as just about set. The Memphis Grizzlies are thirty two
Speaker 1: and thirty three. They have the eighth seed. In the West,
Speaker 1: the Trailblazers and the Pelicans and the Kings and the
Speaker 1: Spurs are all within three games of the A spot. Okay,
Speaker 1: four games of the spot. Yeah, if you have three
Speaker 1: games five games there and then you go into the postseason.
Speaker 1: But I would do an abbreviated postseason. As far as
Speaker 1: the number of games in each series, I would I
Speaker 1: would try to get as quickly to the conference finals
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals as I can. What else do
Speaker 1: you have in the club? Okay, I have a m J.
Speaker 1: Lebron question, but I don't know if I want to
Speaker 1: do this as early because you're in a good mood
Speaker 1: now and it might get you fired up. Why don't
Speaker 1: you save it? Okay, we'll save it there. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to WOJ about what are the plans for the NBA
Speaker 1: season to resume? Frank and Ohio joins us. Hey Frank, Hey, Frank,
Speaker 1: Hey Frank. See if Frank try again? Age seven seven three?
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Speaker 1: We gotta start off with a great phone call. We
Speaker 1: can't just start and all of a sudden, you go,
Speaker 1: where is Frank? Well, Frankie, you're better than that. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: you call on a sports radio show, you'd be ready
Speaker 1: to talk unless he thought, look, Dan doesn't normally take
Speaker 1: phone calls in the first segment, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: You gotta be ready there, Come on, Frank, You're better
Speaker 1: than that. All right, Welcome back with our poll question
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Speaker 1: Settle on a poll question. Mclovin sitting on one that
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Speaker 1: going for clicks here. Adrian Wojnarowski ESPN senior NBA insider
Speaker 1: joining us on the program. Wog Good morning, How are you, Dan?
Speaker 1: Good morning? I'm great? All right, Where do we stand here?
Speaker 1: The NBA has been pretty quiet. Is that a good
Speaker 1: sign or a bad sign? I think it's been a
Speaker 1: good sign. I mean, if if you're if you want
Speaker 1: the league back, and that's the goal here, I think
Speaker 1: they're moving toward that. Dan, and you know, they've been
Speaker 1: putting all the contingencies in place, and really what they're
Speaker 1: waiting for is Adam Silver to just kind of hit
Speaker 1: the green light here probably sometime in June. But they've
Speaker 1: been moving toward it and they've got you know, Silver's
Speaker 1: done a pretty remarkable job of keeping a lot of
Speaker 1: the details very tight away from his owners, front office,
Speaker 1: the union. In terms of exactly how many teams would
Speaker 1: come back, I think the site is starting to narrow
Speaker 1: down to a one or two site scenario. But there's
Speaker 1: certainly momentum towards the league coming back. Now, when you're
Speaker 1: talking about site or sites, are we talking about Vegas Orlando?
Speaker 1: Are those are the two sites that are in conversations?
Speaker 1: That's right, Dan, and Orlando has had a lot of
Speaker 1: traction and I think the question is going to be,
Speaker 1: you know, are they going to put all the teams
Speaker 1: in one place? Are they going to perhaps have teams
Speaker 1: moving among two sites based on an Eastern Western Conference scenario.
Speaker 1: But the one thing Adam Silver has told the players
Speaker 1: and told the owners what he doesn't want or teams
Speaker 1: flying around. You're not going to see what Baseball's proposing,
Speaker 1: which is teams moving around, playing in home stadiums. The
Speaker 1: NBA's focused on a one site, no fans, and then
Speaker 1: they're going to deal with trying to get back into
Speaker 1: arenas again, buildings again for the start of next season.
Speaker 1: So just to recap, you're looking at at least maybe
Speaker 1: one permanent site here for the postseason, or possibly two
Speaker 1: permanent sites with Vegas and Orlando where you have East
Speaker 1: Coast and West Coast teams. And that's possible that that's
Speaker 1: one way they could do it. Dan, they may put
Speaker 1: everybody in one site. The thing that we don't know
Speaker 1: yet and I think they're still working through, is are
Speaker 1: they bringing back off thirty teams, are they bringing back
Speaker 1: just a playoff teams or something maybe in between it
Speaker 1: where you would have let's say the seven. There was
Speaker 1: a talk last there was a vote that was actually
Speaker 1: coming to do for next year, which was the playing
Speaker 1: tournament at the end of the season. I mean, like
Speaker 1: a year ago. That's all we are talking about. That
Speaker 1: was the big issue in the league. Play tournament, mid
Speaker 1: season tournament. But they could they could and bring these
Speaker 1: teams back, do a play in tournament that might that
Speaker 1: might take you through the ten seed or maybe even
Speaker 1: the twelve seed. And you know, then it's how many
Speaker 1: teams are you bringing back? Do you leave out maybe
Speaker 1: the bottom few teams in each conference? But I don't
Speaker 1: have I think they've discussed all of that Dan, but
Speaker 1: they still may very well bring back all thirty. There
Speaker 1: maybe teams who don't want to be left out in
Speaker 1: that way. And this is where it gets tough for
Speaker 1: Adam Silver, when you have to start making decisions. I
Speaker 1: think it's handling of the matter has been very popular
Speaker 1: within the league and probably even outside of the league,
Speaker 1: but it gets more difficult when you start to have
Speaker 1: decisions made that have consequences impact people, and then people
Speaker 1: are less happy with you. Has everybody been paid all
Speaker 1: of the players their entire salaries well starting on May fifteenth,
Speaker 1: so I don't even know what the data is anymore.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's starting out May fifteenth, they
Speaker 1: started to withhold twenty five percent of the players remaining salaries,
Speaker 1: so that if games are canceled, then I think we
Speaker 1: can assume there'll at least be some regular season games canceled.
Speaker 1: They're not going to come back and be able to
Speaker 1: play them all. Then the owners take back a percentage
Speaker 1: of that money. It's basically one percent of the players
Speaker 1: salaries based on how many games they miss, and so
Speaker 1: now they've had withholding taking taken from their salaries so
Speaker 1: they don't have to take it all out at once
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. It's the nineteenth wo
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I'm right there with you, like I
Speaker 1: at least know the month. I don't know the day.
Speaker 1: We're talking to. Adrian Wojnarowski, ESPN Senior NBA Insider. Are
Speaker 1: the powerbrokers in involved in this, Chris Paul, Lebron James,
Speaker 1: some of the other notable players with the commissioner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris Paul is the president of the Players Association, so
Speaker 1: you know he's very much in that conversation. Dan Him,
Speaker 1: Michelle Roberts, Adam Silver. They talk frequently the one advantage
Speaker 1: that Silver has in this scenario, maybe even over baseball
Speaker 1: right now, I think there's a stronger relationship between the
Speaker 1: star players and the commissioner, maybe not necessarily owners, but
Speaker 1: the commissioner, and that helps in selling what has to
Speaker 1: be sold here, which is the one site concept. And
Speaker 1: he's gotten feedback from the players about how they feel
Speaker 1: about that bubble idea, what they might like and not
Speaker 1: like about it, because he really needs the cooperation of
Speaker 1: the Players Association, and by extension, really the star players
Speaker 1: because they do drive maybe more than any other sport.
Speaker 1: I think they drive the conversation among the four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty players in the league. And if you can
Speaker 1: sell your star players and what it is that you
Speaker 1: want to accomplish, how you need to do it, they
Speaker 1: can go out and start selling it with their peers too.
Speaker 1: And Adam Silver's understood that and he has made his
Speaker 1: star players a big part of the conversation because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of real difficult economic conversations coming between the
Speaker 1: union and the players. Are the union in the league
Speaker 1: and they're going to have to alter how the salary
Speaker 1: cap looks for next year, and luxury tax and a
Speaker 1: lot of boring, dry financial topics that are going to
Speaker 1: absolutely have a big impact on competitive balance in the league.
Speaker 1: What the league's really worried about, Dan is not so
Speaker 1: much what happens this summer, but what happens next year
Speaker 1: if they can't have fans in arenas, or if they
Speaker 1: have to have like a social distancing situation with fans,
Speaker 1: where in a twenty thousand seat arena, maybe you can
Speaker 1: only have four thousand or five thousand people. And how
Speaker 1: do you manage that? Because the revenue stream of the league,
Speaker 1: forty percent of it depends upon basically game night receipts.
Speaker 1: I know this sounds crazy, but if we start to
Speaker 1: inch closer to deeper into the summer, is there any
Speaker 1: chance the commission or would say, I'm going to take
Speaker 1: the two top teams in the East and the two
Speaker 1: top teams in the West. Therefore I can cut down
Speaker 1: the travel and the number of people involved in this,
Speaker 1: and I can reduce the odds of somebody testing positive.
Speaker 1: You basically have a final four for the NBA. Could
Speaker 1: you ever see it? Because they're they're bounding determined to
Speaker 1: crown a champion here wog, they are determined to crown
Speaker 1: a champion Dan, but I think they want to crown
Speaker 1: a legitimate champion, and I don't think that would I
Speaker 1: don't think they would see that as legitimacy. I don't
Speaker 1: there won't be a playoff team left behind now after
Speaker 1: the playoff teams that may still be up for debate.
Speaker 1: But one thing Adam Silver did say and a call
Speaker 1: with the players, that his goal was to have seven
Speaker 1: game series in each playoff round and that they wouldn't
Speaker 1: cut it down to a best of five in any
Speaker 1: round and try to make the champion as legitimate as
Speaker 1: it can be. Yeah, I had heard that they were
Speaker 1: they were looking at a five game series for the
Speaker 1: first round and then they would eventually get to seven games.
Speaker 1: But you're refuting that with your information, so I start
Speaker 1: to trust that when you say they were talking about
Speaker 1: I do think they were talking about it. I think
Speaker 1: they knew all of it was based on how many
Speaker 1: days do we have to play with here? How many
Speaker 1: days do we have? But the goal is to do
Speaker 1: it in seven game series. But that doesn't mean they
Speaker 1: haven't discussed. They've discussed everything, and I do think that
Speaker 1: was one of the conversations. What would that look like?
Speaker 1: I know their preference is to try to keep those
Speaker 1: playoffs best of seven all the way through. Here's what
Speaker 1: you don't want in the first round. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you don't want a one eight upset like this isn't
Speaker 1: the last thing you want is a five game series
Speaker 1: where the eighth seed has a better chance. I mean,
Speaker 1: come about, we know you don't really want that. No,
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this. Are we pushing back the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season no matter what happens the rest
Speaker 1: of the summer. I think it's increasingly likely, Dan, and
Speaker 1: I think pushing it back gives the league next year
Speaker 1: more more time to have more dates where they could
Speaker 1: have fans in the arena, because if you if you
Speaker 1: started in mid October, what you can't do anyway, If
Speaker 1: this season pushes into late September into September, it just
Speaker 1: buys the league more time to kind of kick kick
Speaker 1: the can down the road to have fans and buildings,
Speaker 1: because that's what they're really worried about. If you were
Speaker 1: covering Jordan now in that last year with the questions
Speaker 1: that have emerged from that, like how would you approach
Speaker 1: that as an NBA insider of you know, the flu game,
Speaker 1: or then food poisoning game, Jerry Kraus, Phil Jackson, you know,
Speaker 1: can you bring him back? Like could you let us
Speaker 1: into your world of how you think you would have
Speaker 1: approached that in today's world. I think that one difference
Speaker 1: Dan might have been and there was a mortal NBA
Speaker 1: writers media then who are covering a day to day
Speaker 1: I think there's more attention now on the salary cap
Speaker 1: and the financial impact of the decision Scottie Pitt might
Speaker 1: have had on a one year, fourteen million dollar deal
Speaker 1: verse doing the sign and trade. I think there would
Speaker 1: have been more attention paid to the economics and the
Speaker 1: cap and how difficult it would have been to bring
Speaker 1: the whole group back. I think that's probably a small
Speaker 1: difference in it, not the other stuff. With Jordan, I
Speaker 1: think it was all covered. I just think we I
Speaker 1: just think it was covered in newspapers, it was covered
Speaker 1: as Sports Center. I don't get the sense it wasn't
Speaker 1: all covered. I just think that the platforms were different
Speaker 1: and it didn't inundate us like it might with social
Speaker 1: media now. But how would social media have affected Michael Jordan?
Speaker 1: Good question. It's affected every great player that I've ever
Speaker 1: covered or been around, and because if you're looking for slights,
Speaker 1: like hey, the social media is not the place to
Speaker 1: go for self affirmation, like if you're looking to feel
Speaker 1: better about yourself, it's generally not the place you'd go,
Speaker 1: probably even for Michael Jordan. Yeah, hey, Wog, great stuff
Speaker 1: and thanks for joining us. We appreciate your time absolutely. An.
Speaker 1: That's Adrian Wojnarowski the WOJE podcast there where he discusses
Speaker 1: the hottest topics around the league only on the podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you know how we cover the NBA now as
Speaker 1: opposed to how it was covered back then. Social media
Speaker 1: is so you know, it's it's omnipresent there and no
Speaker 1: matter what happens, no matter what said, how it said,
Speaker 1: it's always interpreted differently with the number of critics, so
Speaker 1: called critics that you'll have on social media there. And
Speaker 1: I wonder if Michael how he would have handled any
Speaker 1: type of criticism that he would have gotten, because it
Speaker 1: felt like in Chicago there were people who had to
Speaker 1: ask some tough questions. Outside of Chicago, it felt like
Speaker 1: everybody was there for the ride. You wanted to see
Speaker 1: the amusement park in Chicago, you still had to cover
Speaker 1: these things. Now, did you go all in? Did you
Speaker 1: go you know, Woodward and Bernstein here on Michael, Jordan
Speaker 1: and the bulls. Probably not. You don't want to bite
Speaker 1: the hand that feeds. And we do know Mike can
Speaker 1: hold a grudge for a decade or two or three.
Speaker 1: He doesn't hold a grudge. He strangles a grudge than kids. Damn.
Speaker 1: All right, a couple of phone calls in here. All
Speaker 1: the Coup's back, Frank and Ohio is back. Hey Frank,
Speaker 1: Hey Dan, how are you doing? What happened? My phone
Speaker 1: tapped out? I just want I had it on speakerphone
Speaker 1: so I could hear it in the next you know,
Speaker 1: I heard a little, I said, I heard nothing. I
Speaker 1: was like, what the heck happened? And somehow my call
Speaker 1: is blanked out? So my apologies on that. Well wait,
Speaker 1: are you calling with the same phone that died? Frank?
Speaker 1: Uh No? Okay, okay, yes, calling from the neighborhood of Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1: I have a two part questions, okay, all right. First
Speaker 1: one is since and kind of touched upon it, do
Speaker 1: you think you talk about the advantage of Jordan would
Speaker 1: have complayment today's NBA. Do you think it's burnout would
Speaker 1: have been accelerated because of all the media coverage. He
Speaker 1: would have been burned up sooner. And the second question
Speaker 1: is would you consider doing a last dance if you
Speaker 1: mean you was going to retire even at the rest
Speaker 1: of your reputation of being a nice guy? Would I
Speaker 1: or Jordan, you know, would you do a last dance
Speaker 1: documentary your last year on the air? No? No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, but thank you, Frank. Social media probably
Speaker 1: would have sped up the process here with Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: social media, with his baseball career, would have really roughed
Speaker 1: him up. Basketball was hard to complain with what you
Speaker 1: saw with Michael Baseball social media would have roughed Michael up.
Speaker 1: And No, I wouldn't want to do a last dance
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I mean, we we're doing a documentary.
Speaker 1: Every single day. Everything is documented. It's all in front
Speaker 1: of you. We have thirteen cameras in here, so I
Speaker 1: don't know what else they would show you because even
Speaker 1: during the commercial breaks you get to hear what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, Paul, if there is a behind the
Speaker 1: scenes documentary of this show, you'll be drastically bored. I mean,
Speaker 1: can you imagine us there's someone's shooting a couple of
Speaker 1: free throws, someone's making eggs. Yeah, that's sort of what
Speaker 1: we do. You get to watch us do this. You
Speaker 1: get to watch us make the sausage. Literally, watch us
Speaker 1: make the sausage. Bryce in Minnesota joins us, Hey, Bryce,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Adp ten Hey,
Speaker 1: just wanted to bring up an interesting tidboot. I listened
Speaker 1: to Pardon My Take from Marcel Sports with PFT and
Speaker 1: Big Chat yesterday and they had Carl Malone on, and
Speaker 1: you know, I recall back to the Last Dames documentary
Speaker 1: and Jason yesterday said that they asked Carl a hundred times,
Speaker 1: and you know, they got to know every single time.
Speaker 1: But yesterday on PMT they asked Carl if he had
Speaker 1: got asked to do the interview and just hard no,
Speaker 1: simple no. So I just wanted to bring that up. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Bryce, Yeah, Paul, Yeah, I talked to the
Speaker 1: guys a part of my take because I heard that
Speaker 1: yesterday they asked him briefly, were you asked to do
Speaker 1: the Jordan documentary? And he said no, but he also
Speaker 1: told him he didn't want to talk about Jordan in
Speaker 1: the whole thing before and during that he didn't want
Speaker 1: to talk about Jordan, so he both. He said that
Speaker 1: he wasn't really one confused, he wasn't. Briefly on the air,
Speaker 1: were you asked to me in the document? No? Did
Speaker 1: the director Jason Hare asked Karl Malone to be in
Speaker 1: the document? Yes, Jason confirmed to me that he asked.
Speaker 1: He asked Karl Malone directly and indirectly a dozen different
Speaker 1: times over the course of two years, and made every
Speaker 1: effort to come to him to do a dual interview
Speaker 1: with him in Stockton in every fashion, and Carmelon saying
Speaker 1: he was not asked though, well, that doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: that Karl Malone wasn't ask right, which he was, Carlon,
Speaker 1: it's silly. I leave what you know, Jason Harris saying that, hey,
Speaker 1: I reached out to everybody. They interviewed one hundred and
Speaker 1: six people. Are you trying to tell me that Karl Malone,
Speaker 1: who played an integral part in the final sequence of
Speaker 1: Jordan's Final days, that doesn't make sense at all. Brian
Speaker 1: Russell was asked. Brian Russell didn't respond to being interviewed
Speaker 1: for the last Dance documentary, and Brian Russell is only
Speaker 1: a footnote as he's there when Jordan, you know, gets
Speaker 1: the shot off against him. That's hit. That's all anybody
Speaker 1: ever talks about when they mentioned Brian Russell. That's it.
Speaker 1: Karl Malone, Karl Malone's what the second all time leading
Speaker 1: score in NBA history, won the MVP that year. Karl
Speaker 1: Malone would have been one of the guys if you
Speaker 1: go top ten guys we got to get for the
Speaker 1: documentary aside from the bulls, Karl Malone's in the top
Speaker 1: ten of guys that you're going to seek out. He
Speaker 1: in Stockton, but more Karl Malone than Stockton. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Play of the day coming up.
Speaker 1: Lebron James talks about being Michael Jordan's teammate. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: let the clicks begin controversy back after that. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show, Nick and San diego back on
Speaker 1: the show. Hi, Nick, what do you have for me today?
Speaker 1: Danny Buddy good sir? What's on your mind? Nick? So
Speaker 1: me being from San Diego, I was thinking, this is
Speaker 1: an idea. What if the Pact twelve maybe broke into
Speaker 1: like a North and the South, and like, for example,
Speaker 1: the Southern Impact twel absorbed like the Mountain Wet Conference,
Speaker 1: to add more teams to be able to play in
Speaker 1: a closer reference, so that way, like UCLA play San
Speaker 1: Diego stick as opposed to having to go all the
Speaker 1: way to air Well. I think it's a good idea
Speaker 1: and concept, but it's not going to happen. Thank you, Nick.
Speaker 1: We're going to have Chip Kelly on ucla s head
Speaker 1: coach I believe is joining us tomorrow. Yeah. The Pact
Speaker 1: twelve is trying to sort this out. They're just going
Speaker 1: to have conference games. Here was what I was told
Speaker 1: yesterday reinforced today, and that is the other conferences are
Speaker 1: looking at the SEC and saying the SEC is planning
Speaker 1: on coming back in June. When you have the alpha
Speaker 1: dog here, that's when everybody else is going, well wait
Speaker 1: a minute here, you know they're USC and Alabama is
Speaker 1: not going to happen. In Texas, in Arlington, in j
Speaker 1: in Jerry's stadium. There, it's not going to happen. Alabama
Speaker 1: might end up playing TCU because TCU is local and
Speaker 1: they can still play that game. I don't see USC
Speaker 1: in Alabama playing, you know, to kick off the college
Speaker 1: football season. PAC twelve. Not quite sure what's going to
Speaker 1: happen with their schools. Can you travel? You're stretched all
Speaker 1: over the place, you know, different how many different states
Speaker 1: are involved here in the proximity, although California maybe now
Speaker 1: open for business will help. But the SEC is the
Speaker 1: alpha dog here folks, and they're planning on coming back
Speaker 1: in June. So that's something to keep an eye on,
Speaker 1: all right, McLevin, you got a pull question? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: went ahead and put it up there for clicks. The
Speaker 1: question is who would you rather have as a teammate,
Speaker 1: Lebron or MJ. And there's already some Twitter feedback that
Speaker 1: it's too obvious, too obvious who I want is my teammate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are saying, of course you aren't Lebron because he's
Speaker 1: going to pass you the ball. More some people are saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand that, but you might say, am I going
Speaker 1: to win? Like how important is winning in all of this? Also,
Speaker 1: you might go, how enjoyable is this going to be?
Speaker 1: Because we can look out as outsiders and go, man,
Speaker 1: that must have been crazy, but you're still winning championships.
Speaker 1: Those guys who were part of this, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much enjoyment was there. I think there's a whole
Speaker 1: lot of enjoyment now when you take a victory lap.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they enjoyed this like we did
Speaker 1: watching it. Yeah, I would want Lebron as my teammates
Speaker 1: as long as Michael Jordan isn't somebody else's teammates. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like, if Michael Jordan's on
Speaker 1: the league, sure, I want Lebron as my teammate. Reggie
Speaker 1: said it yesterday he would have liked Lebron as his teammate.
Speaker 1: And then you asked him what gives you a better
Speaker 1: chance to win? He goes, Oh. Michael Lebron was asked
Speaker 1: the after Party podcast and he was asked about playing
Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan. He had this to say, I don't
Speaker 1: know me person is the way I played the game
Speaker 1: where it comes to like team first. I just feel
Speaker 1: like my best assets worked perfectly. With Mike, Mike is
Speaker 1: an assassin. Mike's an assassin when it comes to that
Speaker 1: playing a game of basketball and the way he scored
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, my ability to pass or my
Speaker 1: ability to read the game. And they're just taking the challenge.
Speaker 1: Like I love when a teammate come me and challenge
Speaker 1: me and tell me, okay, all right, come on now,
Speaker 1: R six. You know when I was in Miami, d Way,
Speaker 1: he used to be like, all right, six, let's go.
Speaker 1: You know, t Lou used to challenge me a lot.
Speaker 1: When I was in Cleveland. He'd be like, all right, Broun,
Speaker 1: what you're waiting on him? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'll just see that from Mike, And you know,
Speaker 1: I just feel like our games, which is a perfect
Speaker 1: you know, a perfect you know, correlation to be able
Speaker 1: to just be successful. Okay, that's the current philosophy of
Speaker 1: the NBA partner up. Now that Lebron is not saying that,
Speaker 1: but this is how it's going to be viewed. This
Speaker 1: will be the prism that it's viewed through, is, oh,
Speaker 1: Lebron couldn't beat Michael, he would want to join Michael.
Speaker 1: That's not what he's saying he's asked about this, how
Speaker 1: would you you know, when if you're playing with Jordan,
Speaker 1: how would your abilities assets fit in with Michael Jordan?
Speaker 1: He said they would be great. You know, he would
Speaker 1: be an upgrade over Scottie Pippen, is what he's saying. Now,
Speaker 1: this is the difference, though, if you ask Michael Jordan this,
Speaker 1: Michael would I'm just guessing here, but knowing my Michael
Speaker 1: a little bit, I would think if somebody said, hey,
Speaker 1: how would your skill level match up with Lebron as
Speaker 1: a teammate, and knowing Michael, he would probably say, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to him, miss my teammate. I want
Speaker 1: to beat him. If you ask him back in the nineties, hey,
Speaker 1: how do you think you would How would it work
Speaker 1: with you in magic? Oh? I don't want to play
Speaker 1: with magic. I want to beat magic. Like that. That's
Speaker 1: the philosophy. That's the mentality of Michael Jordan. Now I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that that's Lebron's approach to this. He's asked
Speaker 1: about it. It's a specific question about you being a
Speaker 1: teammate of Michael's and instead of hey, I would fit in,
Speaker 1: but I would rather go Again, if you ask Kobe this, Hey,
Speaker 1: how would you and Mike, you know, fared with each
Speaker 1: other's teammates. Kobe would say, what, oh, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be his teammate. I want to beat him. It's
Speaker 1: just a different mentality there. And I know this. All
Speaker 1: this does is it resurfaces the argument of Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: Lebron James. Nobody changes their opinion on this. No one
Speaker 1: ever changes their opinion, and now with this documentary, you're
Speaker 1: not changing your opinion anytime. If Lebron gets seven titles,
Speaker 1: he's still not going to be greater than Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: To people, it's never going to happen. He can be
Speaker 1: the all time leading scorer, he can be top ten
Speaker 1: and assist. He's not going to be viewed as better
Speaker 1: than Michael Jordan because he is different Kobe. You could
Speaker 1: view him as approaching Michael Jordan, not Lebron. Kobe is
Speaker 1: closer to Michael. If you want to make those comparisons,
Speaker 1: then you have an apt comparison. They're the same players.
Speaker 1: But as Kobe acknowledged, I'm not me without Michael, and
Speaker 1: Lebron acknowledges that as well, the impact that Michael had
Speaker 1: on him. But we love the argument. It's a never
Speaker 1: ending argument. It's a tiresome argument, and nobody's changing their opinion.
Speaker 1: Lebron talks about playing football. Wanted to play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I actually saw him play a high school football game.
Speaker 1: He wore the number nine. I'll tell you why he
Speaker 1: wore the number nine. Coming up next hour, One Hour
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