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Speaker 1: Okay. Podcast starts now, Hello to everyone out there, and

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Speaker 1: first of all, let me say thank you thank you

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Speaker 1: for that sense of it by also saying yeah, thank

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Speaker 1: you for me, thank you for listening, thank you for

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Speaker 1: your constant, unbending support, thank you for implicitly agreeing with

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Speaker 1: everything we've ever said. Thank you to that one reviewer

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Speaker 1: two months ago whose review title was George holds the

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Speaker 1: Audience Hostage. Thank you to the other reviewer that said, UM,

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Speaker 1: I like this podcast except um like they um like

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Speaker 1: say like too much. Yeah, I believe they said it's

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Speaker 1: a great podcast for people who like listening to conversations

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Speaker 1: where everyone says like too much. Well, babe, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people like that. A lot of people like that

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Speaker 1: based on our numbers. And I just want to say

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Speaker 1: thank you to you. Yeah, thank you to you. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm so jealous of your conversations where no one uses

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Speaker 1: them or like and everyone speaks in complete sentences and

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Speaker 1: says nothing interesting. I hope your life sucks. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess I just want to start really positively and

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Speaker 1: say thank you to all those people. And um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know, you're listening to Shrady lab Um,

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Speaker 1: the only podcast where two guys talk about saying, UM,

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Speaker 1: I hate this and I want to literally cyber bull

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Speaker 1: you because you can't. You can't stay the sentence without

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Speaker 1: saying UM. I Actually I am so surprised, UM, I'm

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Speaker 1: disappointed in us that we let the negative reviews get

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Speaker 1: to us. Well we okay, Just to be clear, not

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Speaker 1: only do we not let them get to us. I

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Speaker 1: I've already forgotten them. And I only brought them up

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Speaker 1: because for comedic purposes, because I thought it might be

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Speaker 1: funny in the context of saying thank you to bring

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Speaker 1: up the people that have tried to tear us down repeatedly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well the small minority, might I add? Might I add?

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Speaker 1: And and a week my minority at that small weak

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Speaker 1: they for all we know, those two reviewers are already

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Speaker 1: dead of natural causes because they're so weak. The the

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Speaker 1: environment of Earth was too harsh for them. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: no so triggered by us saying them and leg if

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Speaker 1: they actually dropped dead upon listening to the latest EP Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean springs sprung, the pollen got to them, and

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Speaker 1: they literally died. They died of allergies. They die, they

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Speaker 1: died of allergies. And then and there will be more

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Speaker 1: two of them. Many allergy related deaths in our country,

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Speaker 1: and we don't talk about that enough. Any tongue that

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Speaker 1: rises against us will die by allergies of allergies, and

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Speaker 1: that is a promise. Yeah, the bees are on our

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Speaker 1: side and they're muminating those flowers. Handy, we have the bees,

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Speaker 1: We have the flowers. So just try to speak and

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Speaker 1: put a negative review of us on iTunes. I dare you,

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Speaker 1: And I would like to take away that dare and say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I keep it to yourself. Okay, no, that's true.

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Speaker 1: You're right, George. You were saying you had a crazy night.

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Speaker 1: I had a wild night last night. I'm talking. So

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Speaker 1: I went to my friend Jackson's birthday party. Now there

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Speaker 1: were a lot of people kind of in their twenties

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Speaker 1: of this part, people who I think, and I say

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Speaker 1: this with only respect, but I feel like the going

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Speaker 1: out process is something that is a joyous part of

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Speaker 1: it isn't. I feel like I'm just like put off

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Speaker 1: and I was like, well, anything to get out of

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Speaker 1: some woe, he was like, you're talking like you're seventy

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fun, George, You're fun. I can't have fun,

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Speaker 1: and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: I had three vasodas, I danced to multiple top forty tracks, perfect,

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Speaker 1: it's good that you're pushing yourself, that you're not accepting

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Speaker 1: that you're seventy years old, um and and married with children.

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Speaker 1: last night I noticed so clearly what the new fashion is.

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Speaker 1: What is it is gay man dressed like limited to teams?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's it's queer as folk culture

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, George, thank you so much. I love

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Speaker 1: put your paws together. How's it going over there? How's

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Speaker 1: feel knowing that you're George's favorite coworker? Oh my god, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't. Here's the thing, Um, this is a new

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Test to this, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: do I how do I say this? Uh? George is

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Speaker 1: like the best person to work with, um, and his

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Speaker 1: Like who can punish me? I mean you certainly I

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Speaker 1: feel like you know you you respect me when it's

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Speaker 1: like when I am editing you particularly and then you

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean I wouldn't say it's out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: like it comes from a place I do. I do.

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Speaker 1: I really love all my editors. I really love being

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Speaker 1: go back in time for UM. I would like to

420
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Speaker 1: say I feel very vindicated because this came up at

421
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: a pitch meeting. It was not accepted. Uh and honestly

422
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: fair because I don't think I could have written more

423
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: than like a paragraph on this. Um. So that was

424
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Speaker 1: good on your part. But okay, So I grew up

425
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Speaker 1: in a city called Ottawa, which is the capital of Canada.

426
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Speaker 1: A lot of people I'm saying that because everyone thinks

427
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: Toronto is which is fair. Yeah Toronto, um, and like

428
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: it a very government city where everyone I kind of

429
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: went to high school with really like I went to school,

430
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 1: work for the government, got real jobs kind of thing.

431
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: Like people I went to school with like have houses

432
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: and cars and you know things like that. Um, and

433
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: they have like full lives. It's so disgusting. Literally grow up.

434
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: They a lot of them became consultants and they live

435
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: very good lives. It's I feel like, Okay, so the

436
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: topic is consulting. I feel like I didn't even mention that. Um,

437
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: and it's something that like I just I'll never understand

438
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: what it is, okay. And I know people who consult Uh.

439
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: I've introduced people I know as consultants. Um, you're doing

440
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: the work. You know, I acknowledge it's a job. My brother,

441
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: I think is a consultant. We're very cool. I don't

442
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: really know if he is anymore. Um, but I don't

443
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: know what it is. I just know that when you

444
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: say you're a consultant, there are very few questions people

445
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: ask afterwards because they think you're fine. Like it's like

446
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: you're a consultant, You're making good money, You're going on

447
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: vacation sometimes you are going out to eat at restaurants.

448
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: Like it's like you very much just like I have job.

449
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeahs I have job, and I have a real job

450
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: that makes me money, and like, sometimes I work a lot,

451
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't. It's just it's so mysterious to me.

452
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't think I've ever met a gay consultant.

453
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: Here's what gay consultants are, creative directors, here's the team consultants.

454
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: George knows what one is. That's the craziest thing. Literally

455
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: knows what a consultant is. And he's told me, Okay, George,

456
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: what's a consultant? Okay, I'm gonna attempt to a based

457
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: on my years of knowledge, describe what I think it is.

458
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: So I remember this very well. When I was a

459
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: senior in college, suddenly, out of nowhere, people started talking

460
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: about consulting, something I had never heard of before. Um,

461
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: And basically you know that there are these there are

462
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: these big companies that are it's like McKenzie Boston, Consulting Group, Accenture, Deloitte,

463
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: like companies you've heard of, but you're always like, what

464
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: do they do? And so like those are consulting companies

465
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: and they heavily recruit college senior like people just graduating

466
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: college and have kind of like an army of young

467
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: very hard working, but kind of uh lost people that

468
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: don't really know what they want to do with their

469
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: lives but know that they want to kind of vaguely

470
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: be in business. Like it's not you know, it's like

471
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: they're not even They're like, I don't even know what

472
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: industry I want to be and I don't know if

473
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: I want to be in big pharma or tech or

474
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: you entertainment. I just I kind of just want to

475
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: like learn the ropes of business. So do they study

476
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: business necessarily? No, it truly you could. You just have

477
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: to be like high achieving in some way. You can

478
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: be like an English major and it doesn't matter. You

479
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: learn on the job. So basically, then what a consultancy does,

480
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: from what I understand, is like let's say a company,

481
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: let's say Gawker, is like, we have a problem here.

482
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Content is not doing well with this one demographic. That's

483
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: a problem, and we've tried to solve it internally and

484
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: we can't. So we're gonna hire a consultancy and they're

485
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna come in and basically like be assigned this one

486
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: business problem and then their job is to fix it

487
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: based on their business knowledge. And so then you know, um,

488
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: McKinsey will come, they will like do a bunch of research.

489
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: They'll interview everyone at the company, they'll do market research,

490
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: they'll like make presentations, they'll talk to the CEO or whatever,

491
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: and then at the end they will present like their

492
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: recommendation of what needs to be done. So that's what

493
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: it is. But then the gag is u of what

494
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: happens is a company that wants to make some change

495
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: that's like firing people, are downsizing or whatever will basically

496
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: bring in a consulting company to have an excuse to

497
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: do it because they'll be like, well, mckensey told me

498
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: to do it. So that's where like the kind of

499
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: evil nature of it comes from. It's like the boss

500
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: already wants to make some change, it's gonna make everyone unhappy,

501
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: but he wants to kind of blame someone else and

502
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: be like, well, the official consultants told us to do that.

503
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: That honestly, it sounds like a racket. Yeah yeah. I'm

504
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: also like how do they make so much money? Though?

505
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: It makes so much money. If someone's a consultant, in

506
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: my mind, they're rich. They're rich, and it's one of

507
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: those jobs that like gets you respect from like parents

508
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: really easily. Yeah, it's just kind of like because because

509
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: when you're hired by you know, Disney, they just have

510
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: money to burn, and like they're gonna pay a lot

511
00:30:52,400 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: for you to come in and suggest that they fire people. Okay, am,

512
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: and I are not convinced this is real. I mean,

513
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: just like I agree there is no Just to be clear,

514
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm like disagreeing and I'm like, you

515
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: guys don't get it. It's real, Like I agree that

516
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: it's fake, but I'm just this is like my explanation

517
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: of why it's fake. It's basically like this whole fake

518
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: enterprise in order to justify bad decisions in my in

519
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: my opinion, Okay, Like it's basically it's basically like you

520
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: are correct in that what they're doing is worthless. Yeah, sure, okay,

521
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: why are you what? Okay, how are we feeling? I

522
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: so feel like it's like do they have to acquire

523
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: a certain expertise? You know what I mean? Like right now,

524
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: like okay, I'm trying to think of what I could

525
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: consult for and I guess it's like I still I

526
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: feel like there's a certain confidence required to even declare

527
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: yourself a consultant because you're saying like I know this

528
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: thing and I can fix that problem because I did

529
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: whatever whatever. So it's like, could I be a consultant

530
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: for someone who I don't know? Like, okay, wait, so

531
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: this is actually an interesting point. So what I describe

532
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: as like big consulting, it's like these are consulting firms.

533
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: And then there's also like you can be like I

534
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: can just decide I'm an independent podcasting consultant and like

535
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: charge people to help them script their podcast or something like.

536
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: That's I feel like that's another element of this, right,

537
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: like any anyone can be like can can just brand

538
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: themselves as a consultant. Oh my god, there's no barrier

539
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: to entry. No, there's no barrier to entry. Keepers. We

540
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: need keepers in the consulting industry is so messed up

541
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: that I feel like that's like such a thing of

542
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: like people that like had a successful career in like

543
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: some industry and then are like, well, I'm done creating

544
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: my own stuff, but like now I'm going to be

545
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: a consultant. Okay, that's so crazy. It's like that's that's

546
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: so insane. It's this is what Okay, do you remember

547
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: when the thing for like independent men was to call

548
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: themselves entrepreneurs. But you're kind of that's consulting. That's the

549
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: new version of being an entrepreneur. I mean, I know

550
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: consultants are as old as time, but I do think

551
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: that you are. Like I'm not willing to question a

552
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: consultant because it's so opaque. I am going to question

553
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: a guy who says he's an entrepreneur. Yeah, yeah, it's tough.

554
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean, would you rather be a consultant or an entrepreneur?

555
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's a really hard question. That's so

556
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: hard I towards. You can't just ask someone that. I

557
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: honestly think I'd rather be a consultant because I feel

558
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: like the payoff is so much higher for so much

559
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: less work, and an entrepreneur is like hustle mentality, Like

560
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: there's no there's no escalator to success. It's stairs culture stairs. Okay,

561
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: So consultant is escalator entrepreneurs stairs, Yes, yeah, so you

562
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: know it. I'm pro entrepreneur now because they have to

563
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: work hard. They're more salt of the earth. Yeah, they're

564
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: more salt of the earth. Yeah, I mean there is

565
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: something more like uh bullshitty about it. I mean I

566
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: guess you could go both ways, because then a consultant,

567
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: you're like, well, you're coming in in theory, you're coming in,

568
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: you're fixing a problem, and you're leaving, whereas an entrepreneur

569
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: can actually bullshit their entire career just kind of like

570
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: fail upwards. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if an

571
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: entrepreneur can do that, Like I think they could create

572
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: an image of success, but like if the books don't

573
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: add up right, you know, but you're still an entrepreneur

574
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: even if you're not rich. I feel like, are there

575
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: any mom and pop consultants that are like that is

576
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: such a good point. That is such a good point.

577
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: You can be a poor entrepreneur, but you can't be

578
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: a poor consultant. Yeah. I feel like a consultancy is

579
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: a ticket to entry level a k oh, you're low

580
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: balling already. Oh my god, they can make more, but

581
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: the entry This episode is sponsored by p w c UM.

582
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, when I was a senior, I was

583
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: like everyone else was doing these consulting interviews and I

584
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: was like, well that sounds like easy. Like when someone

585
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: explained to me what it was, I was like, oh,

586
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: so you basically just like kind of google things and

587
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: then make power points like I could do that, like

588
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: I might as well try to interview for these places.

589
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: And then I like didn't get any interviews, and I

590
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you think you're better than me. I

591
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: was like, I was doing you a favor by applying,

592
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Like you will be lucky to have me on your team.

593
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: I one of my first jobs in New York was

594
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: like googling um. I worked for a PR company that

595
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: worked for Coca Cola, and I would like google the

596
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: news every morning for like stories about soda and send

597
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: them like a bibliography of like this is what's going on.

598
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: I used to have my first PR two Yeah, but

599
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: I didn't know what the job was. So one time

600
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: I like I was, I was on a date at

601
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: a bar and this like older Midwestern couple like decided

602
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: to strike up a conversation with us, and I was like,

603
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: this is weird and they were like, so what do

604
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: you do? And I left had this job for like

605
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: a week, and I was like, I don't even know

606
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: what this job is. And I told them I was

607
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: a consultant. I was like twenty four, and they were

608
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: like they were like really, and they were so impressed,

609
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: and I don't like I will ever feel that level

610
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: of impressing anyone ever again. That you literally can say it.

611
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean I have to say, like any job can

612
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: be framed as being a consultant, like Sarah, you're you know, uh,

613
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: news consultant, and that you bring the news into the world.

614
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: That that's actually true a rhetoric consultant. Oh my god,

615
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to start consulting. I think, well, okay,

616
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: but like for you, it's like, okay, Sarah, like you

617
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: are good at certain things, and it's like you have

618
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: used those things to get jobs. It's like, okay, you

619
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: are a writer, you are a podcaster. But like if

620
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: you just decide you're going to brand yourself as having

621
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: that knowledge, but now consult on Bella Hadid's podcast as

622
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: like a funny writer with like a fun voice and

623
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: be like Bella, I'm going to consult with you and

624
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to teach you how to be funnier and

625
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: have a more funny voice. Oh my god, George, you

626
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: just invented a job for me. Yeah, a consultant for

627
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: Bella Hadid's podcast. That's okay. First of all, we need

628
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: to get in touch with Bella. She's have a podcast. Um,

629
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: step step one. Okay, we have to get Bella a podcast. Honestly,

630
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: my mind is blown, Like I finally understand what a

631
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: consultant is, and this is the third time George has

632
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: explained it. I mean, I have to say, I'm really

633
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: proud of myself. I was floored. I get it now.

634
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: I think I get it to Actually I'm disappointed. I

635
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: think maybe I was expecting it to be like grander

636
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: or more. I am disappointed, disappointed. I kind of think

637
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: that's the secret with a lot of business stuff is

638
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: like you know, unlike a doctor or a lawyer that

639
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: has like specific skills, a lot of business stuff like

640
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: is intentionally opaque so that people don't ask a lot

641
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: of questions and figure out that it's actually like very simple.

642
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what's crazy is that it still

643
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: is fake. You know, it's a real job, but it's

644
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: still fake because it's like, say I was consulting, Like

645
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna use the Gawker example again, like all

646
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: I'd have to do is like make up a chart

647
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: and do a fake case study or something totally totally

648
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: and then you're like, Okay, you hear case study. You're like,

649
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, quantifiable like she's doing surveys, she's doing

650
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: she's crunching the numbers, and it's like no, you probably

651
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: just like decided like, oh, look, this is a case

652
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: that this is a different publication that actually is popular

653
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: among women to thirty five, So maybe be more like

654
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: that publication and like that. That's it. That's it, that's it.

655
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: It's literally like you coming to God room being like,

656
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: have you guys considered being more like Glamour magazine? So

657
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to say I work tomorrow. People will love it.

658
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Um So as a straight issue, yes, is it particularly straight? George?

659
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: You say, you know gay consultants? Okay, So basically I

660
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: just have this memory. Okay, I'm talking about this as

661
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: though I've spent so much time thinking about consulting. It

662
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: was truly just like when I was looking for a job,

663
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: I had no idea what I wanted to do, and

664
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: I would go to these like informational sessions and be like, hey,

665
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: what's this, what's this? What's this? And I remember I

666
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: went to one that was like l g B t

667
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: Q and consulting, and it was like a panel of

668
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: people talking about what it was like being a gay consultant,

669
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: blah blah. And the reason there are a lot of

670
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: gay consultants is because a lot of these companies were

671
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: like some of the first ones to like really go

672
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: all in on like that kind of diversity, am I

673
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: that kind of diversity? I mean like gay people who

674
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: are wealthy, um, and so you know, there was like

675
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: a panel of gay people and I remember one of

676
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: them was like talking about how sometimes it's really hard

677
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: to work into the night doing another presentation, doing another

678
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: power point, and he was like, sometimes I just want

679
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: to kick back and watch Bravo. And then everyone was like, ah,

680
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's just like as um so I

681
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: so that. But yeah, I mean gay consult It's like

682
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: it's like, of course you can imagine when to get consultant.

683
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a gay man who like wears um,

684
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, what's that brand? Not Jack Spade, but

685
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: like who wears the kind of Jack and Jones, like

686
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: mid priced preppy clothing. Or a power lesbian who does

687
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: not have the courage to go into nonprofits. They're a

688
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: power lesbian consultant is cool? That woman I see her

689
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: and she's like the star of a TV show. Yeah,

690
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: she's she has her free form show. Yeah, and it's

691
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: good too. But it's good, And they had a bill

692
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: on episode. I was a consultant, I could be Oh

693
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: my god, I'm thinking of all the ways I could grift.

694
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: You know. One thing that really bothers me is that

695
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: I see so many like, Okay, obviously brands are getting

696
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: consultants who are like, you need to be more diverse

697
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I feel like all my targeted ads

698
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: now through the algorithm that knows I'm a Muslim woman

699
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: who wears a hijab, Like all my ads are like

700
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: hejabi at a bank or like, you know, just like

701
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: her doing something, And it is so obvious that they

702
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: just put something on someone's head, like there was no

703
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Well you told me for a while that you think

704
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: fashion is going into um that that everyone wants to

705
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: wear a jab. Yeah, everyone wants to wear a hijab

706
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: in some form. It's the cool thing to do. Oh

707
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: my god. Once my old Instagram I on was that

708
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: picture of Asap Rocky when he's wearing the Bushka style

709
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: scarf with sunglasses smiling, no joke. Ten people were like,

710
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: I thought that was you. I was like God, like

711
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be telling me that, Like, you shouldn't tell

712
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: me you just think of, uh, someone's head covered and

713
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 1: a smile, and you're like, register as Sarah because he's black.

714
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a compliment. He's a very beautiful man

715
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: with a beautiful smile. But at the same time, I'm like,

716
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: is that all it takes? And I'm like, I feel

717
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: like I have this other my lens on the world,

718
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: but like you know what I mean, Like I just

719
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: keep seeing these ads where it's like, no one looks

720
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: like that, Sarah already already, like this is your speech

721
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: at Davos, where you're like, I kept seeing ads that

722
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: thought they were representing that thought they were representing people

723
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: like me, but I did not see myself and that

724
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: didn't And that's when I stepped in and I said,

725
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Sarah, you need to consult on these ads.

726
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: And now I am proud to present. I am proud

727
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: to present the new free form campaign called Women Out Loud. Yes,

728
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, yes I could do this. I could.

729
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: I can. You could do this literally in your sleep.

730
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like it's honestly, I'm kind of like

731
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: disappointed that you have. It's like your commitment to like

732
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: anti capitalism has gone too far together. It's like time

733
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: for you to just like throw that away and like

734
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: really start profiting. The first time I really noticed, like, oh, no,

735
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: one really knows that this is crazy as I was

736
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: watching the movie God's Not Dead the Christian the Christian

737
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: movies starting Hercule, No, Hercules isn't was his name again? Yes?

738
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: And he plays I actually don't really remember the plot

739
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: that much. It's just about your professor. He's a professor.

740
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the whole thing when I watched parts.

741
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: He's a professor. And one of the plots of like,

742
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, God's Not Dead that proves God's not dead

743
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: is that there's this um Muslim girl at the university.

744
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: It's so funny. We cry and she uh, you know,

745
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: she's in school and and she's shadowing these two worlds

746
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: of being in her oppressive household and going to school

747
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: where she's allowed to be herself. And at school she

748
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: doesn't wear a hedjab, and then when her dad's coming

749
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: to pick her up, she puts it on and like,

750
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: no joke, it is the I'll send you guys a

751
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: picture after But like she basically like takes a scarf

752
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: and like wraps it around her head in a way

753
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: that like it's like someone just just like someone wrapping

754
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: someone around there something around their head in a circular motion.

755
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: Like I can't describe how weird it was. It was

756
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: just like this thing on her face, and it was

757
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: like it was, yes, she looked like a mummy. Literally,

758
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: it was like and yeah, And her dad pulls up

759
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: she puts it on her friends, like you don't have

760
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: to wear that, and she's like, I do because of

761
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: my culture. And she goes into the car with her

762
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: dad and her dad's like, you're not like these people,

763
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: You're one of us, um, And I was like, oh, like,

764
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: people will watch this, who are watching it even ironically

765
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: the way I am and not know this is the

766
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 1: craziest thing about the movie. Like it is by and large,

767
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: the most absolutely insane thing I've ever seen on film.

768
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: Right Whereas whereas if you had been a consultant, she

769
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: would have looked like she would have looked like she

770
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: would have looked like me, and she would it would

771
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: have been accurate, And that's how people would have known

772
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: God's not dead. And that's the thing about my job

773
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: is that I'm not picking sides. No, it's just about

774
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: being represented accurately. And you do what you want with

775
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: that story. Exactly. It's like it's about you being represented accurately,

776
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: even if it is in a right wing propaganda film. Yes, exactly.

777
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: All I want to see is myself. Yeah, Like it's

778
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: not about politics, it's not about like laws, it's like

779
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: just about representation. And that's so that's powerful enough. Yeah,

780
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: that's powerful enough. And actually that is the goal. That's

781
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: a goal. It's like representation doesn't have to be good,

782
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: it has to be there. Yeah, that's why, you know,

783
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: A huge shout to Pete Buddha Jedge. You know, it's

784
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: so powerful to see you and you and chast In

785
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: I love you both shout out. Oh wow wow. Okay.

786
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: So I just want to like tie the knot on

787
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: consulting being straight. So like, yes, there are get consultants,

788
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: but like you know, that doesn't mean that it is

789
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: not inherently straight. But what is straight about it? To you? Sarah?

790
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: Like when you think about a consultant, I just think

791
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: of um, I like see it in my mind's eye

792
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: of just like a guy you know who wakes up

793
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: and he wears his consulting outfit, which is like a

794
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: dress shirt and dress pants from Express, and he he

795
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything outside of his life and it's very

796
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: good and simple of girlfriend that he's had for five years.

797
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he's proposing. He doesn't know yet. He's definitely proposing, proposing,

798
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: and even though they've been together for so long, she's

799
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: going to cry and be shocked. He goes to I

800
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: don't know what the sports bars are in America, but

801
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: like there's one called like a real sports bar and

802
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: girl here where it's just like big TVs everywhere. Uh,

803
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: that's where he watches a game. You know, he's not

804
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: an active social media user, but he's on it all

805
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: the time, right, Um, you know he follows sports accounts

806
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: and and actually really loves sharing memes about his favorite

807
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: NFL teams. Yes, but also kind of right wing. Well

808
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: it goes without saying yeah, uh and this is all

809
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: based on me creeping a guy went to high school

810
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: with and finding his Instagram and Twitter. Um, he's a

811
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: light crypto investor. Yeah, just in and that's fine if

812
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: he loses it. I don't know. There's just something so

813
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: like by the book about being a consultant that I

814
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: feel like, and this isn't to not consultants, because I

815
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: think it's just a job. And I don't think everyone

816
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: takes their job home with them, but I feel like,

817
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: by and large, it is just like you know, it's

818
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: it's very straightforward. It's a very straightforward job that it

819
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: changes from week to week by project to project, and

820
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: that's the fun of it. Yeah, and thank you for

821
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, definitely acknowledging the consulting community listening to this,

822
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: and and we don't want to offend them. There's some

823
00:48:54,520 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: of our most ardent fans, and we really care about you. Yeah. Yeah,

824
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: and we see ourselves represented in them constantly. I think

825
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: that I could see myself long in love with a consultant, wow,

826
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: just because like I want that stability. I want someone

827
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: who's to be proposed to by a slightly right wing

828
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: consultant that invest in crypto. Yeah. But he's not really

829
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: political course, no, no, no, Georgie's he's not political. He's

830
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: actually never even really voted, but hit doubles. You know,

831
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: it's it's all like these kind of half measures into

832
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: a world, you know. But you know, I'll watch him

833
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: play video games sometimes, Yeah, consultant BF Gawker writer GF

834
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: is kind of like, I see that actually really working. Yeah,

835
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: and you know he has he has hobbies in a

836
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: sense of humor. Yeah, he's like funny, Like getting drinks

837
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: with him is fun Like he's not like getting drinks.

838
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: You don't know he's funny when you first meet him,

839
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: but like as you talk to him, you're like, oh,

840
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: he actually he does have jokes. Yeah, and he's like

841
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of refreshing because he's not like overthinking everything like

842
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: everyone else does. And then I tell him something about

843
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: the internet, like do you know what Taylor Lorenz said?

844
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: And he goes, who's that? Yes, I see this actually

845
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: really working. I love that. Oh my god, this is

846
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: like practical magic. Tomorrow I'm going to meet a consultant.

847
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: You know he's going to be wearing a paedagonia vest. Yeah,

848
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: how do you feel about that's his casual look, Okay,

849
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm not into that. Okay, Wow, that's the deal breaker.

850
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't think I can. He's like he's kinds of vest. Yeah,

851
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: he's kind of um. He has an outdoorsy side like

852
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: he does like occasionally going. He likes a hike. He

853
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: says he says partag ng. He goes, yeah, yeah, and

854
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: you're like, what is that something with the canoe. He

855
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: also loves barbecue. He's like, I know this good barbecue plays.

856
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, Oh my god, yes yeah. I mean

857
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: you will be at like breweries a lot. That's odd,

858
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: it's fun. Breweries can be fun, but it can be fun.

859
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: And you know what he likes actually, and like he's like,

860
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people don't, but he likes

861
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: getting a flight of beers so he can try a

862
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: bunch of different ones. And he's like, I'll have the

863
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: sour beers and he's like, I can't have a full

864
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: glass of this, but I like just like trying it.

865
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: So okay. So this is where it all falls apart.

866
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't drink, so I don't think that part could

867
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: work in my life. I don't know what a flight

868
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: of beers is. I don't I don't know the names

869
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: of alcohols I'm drinking about you, But I feel like

870
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: it's like, well, a flight first of all, is like

871
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: imagine kind of like a series of shot classes, all

872
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: with a different beers, so you can try different ones

873
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: without committing. So you go to brewery and they're like, well,

874
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: we have a flight ster. Oh it's samples, samples, it's

875
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: a sample platter, and but I feel like it could

876
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: work where that's kind of his thing. And then you're

877
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: and then you're like, he loves his flats of beers. Yeah, ladies,

878
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: let's chat. He's having his beer. Let's with the other girlfriends.

879
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: You know. The thing we would like at the same

880
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: time would probably be like I wouldn't mind going to sports. Yeah,

881
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: I think it'd be fine, and you'd have your shows.

882
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: The shows that you could bond over are like the

883
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: ones that both men named. It's like you'll watch like

884
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: true crime shows together. Yes, I think you would both

885
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: like something you can get him into. Yeah, we'd like

886
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: a succession for different reasons. Yes, reasons. And yeah, like

887
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: he'll get you into Ozark, Like at first she'll be

888
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: like you know about this, but then after a few

889
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: weeks you're like, Okay, I want to know what happens

890
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Laura Linny, Wow that consultants love. Oh my god, that

891
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: is like that's such a consulting show. Like the only

892
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: people who really talk about Ozark don't go on the internet. Consultants,

893
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: I would say, they love like kind of any Netflix

894
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: Original like they're like, they're like Ozark, they like um Narcos,

895
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: they like they like that it's all in one place

896
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: and they don't have to like overthink it too much.

897
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: They watch the watch Yellowstone, wat Yellowstone Yellowstone. Yeah, um,

898
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: Yellowstone is actually one of the few ways they can

899
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: bond with their dad. Oh my god, Wait, Billions and

900
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: I've watched every episode of Billions. I don't know what

901
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know what's happening. I don't know

902
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: what a hedge fund is. I like, I watched Billions.

903
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: They talk about these things I don't know, and it's

904
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: like he explains it to me. He paused, and he

905
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: explains what shorting is. Yes, but yeah, I feel like

906
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: Billions is also the thing I probably engage in. That's

907
00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: the most consulting culture, you know. He He'll someone will

908
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: say something in Billions and they will turn to you

909
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: and he'll he'll go, do you catch that, babe? I'll like, no,

910
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: I didn't. Can you explain it to Okay? So the

911
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: way it works is, oh my god, I would honestly,

912
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: I would love to know what happens in Billions. I

913
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: would any if any listener, if anyone listening, knows what's

914
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: happening in Billions, please reach out, no joke. I remember

915
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 1: because my grandma couldn't speak English, and my mom would

916
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: watch soap operas and she would watch like Days of

917
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: Our Lives with my mom, and she didn't know what

918
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: was happening because she can't speak English. But she knows

919
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: something's going on with Bow and Hope, and that's watching Billions.

920
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: I know that things are happening, but you don't know

921
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: the language. I don't know at all. I cannot tell you,

922
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: like how I don't remember their names right now. Well,

923
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: there's Apologio, Mati and Damie and the guy from Homeland

924
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: Homeland Hold Homeland. And then the woman who's the therapist,

925
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: the business therapist. Yes, she's a business therapist. She's also

926
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: I think she's doing the job for you. Actually if

927
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: consulting doesn't work out, just business therapy. I mean, now

928
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: we said it, But do you know about the sam

929
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: this woman and Billions? No, I've never seen you get

930
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: off your ass. You clean your balls and you work.

931
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: She like literally has like an office in the in

932
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: the building and then people go to her when they

933
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: need business therapy, and she like literally like dominatrixes them

934
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: into like getting back on the business horse. Yeah. They're

935
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: like they're like, I don't know if I could do this,

936
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: Like it's like this is her this this is hard

937
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: to do. I'm working so much and go. She was like,

938
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: so you don't want this job. You don't want to

939
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: get millions of dollars and they're all so rich. Like

940
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: that's why I think maybe consulting consultants are riches because

941
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: I watched Billions and the smallest person on that show, Uh,

942
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: the person who's the least important is making hundreds of

943
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. Oh yeah, well, I mean hedge funds.

944
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the whole other story. But I

945
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: don't even know what that is. I don't know what

946
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: a hedge fund is. That's a longer episode. Um the

947
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: Big Short, that's the artsy movie. Consulting guy likes, Oh yeah,

948
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: he loves the Big He actually loves Adam McKay across

949
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: the board. Um, who can blame him? Who can blame him?

950
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing is like you kind of

951
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you start out feeling like from a

952
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: place of superiority or something, and you're like, oh, my

953
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: my stupid boyfriend. He's like, not that smart, but he

954
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: brings home the bacon and then you start to kind

955
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: of enjoy the things he likes and you're like, this

956
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: is fun. I could live the consulting lifestyle. Yeah, I

957
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 1: definitely could if it meant like going on vacations sometimes. Yeah,

958
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: two turks and caickos. He loves tricks and caickos. He

959
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: likes a vacation that doesn't have like a cultural element.

960
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't like to sight see. No no no no

961
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: no no no no, no, absolutely not unless we're going

962
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: to roam right if you're if you're in a different city,

963
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: he might like to go to the club's. Actually I

964
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: think he would, but then he would actually not have fun. Yeah,

965
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: and he would wear like a shirt with stripes. He'd

966
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: wear like a dress shirt with stripes. Oh my god,

967
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: he loves he loves a dress sure with stripes. Um. Something.

968
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: A scene from the movie that really stayed with me

969
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: is in the film Just Married, during Brittany Murphy and

970
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Ashton Kutcher, they go I think to Rome, definitely Italy.

971
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: I think Rome, maybe I'm wrong for their honeymoon and

972
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: to kind of portray that she is more like sophisticating

973
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: and he's more of an oath. A big argument is

974
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: like she wants to go sight seeing because she's in

975
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: literal Italy and all he cares about is finding an

976
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: American sports bar to watch the game on in Italy

977
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: on his honeymoon. And that's like not seen as a

978
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: firable offense. It's like, oh my god, he's so funny.

979
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: He wants to find a sports bar. That's so crazy.

980
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: That's like I went to Thailand with my sister and

981
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: her family, and so many of the restaurants were like,

982
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: we serve a full English breakfast. And I was like,

983
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: you're going to Thailand and you want a full English breakfast,

984
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: Like you're coming from Australia to go to Thailand for

985
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: a full English breakfast? Like that got me so angry. Yeah,

986
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: it's really sad. That's that's my consultant that he loves

987
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: in English breakfast in Thailand. I feel like this is

988
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: like this could be like um a Mitsky song almost

989
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, my consultant boyfriend. Yeah, And it's

990
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, we really we act like

991
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: we're so different, but really we're the same because we're

992
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: both my consult and boyfriend drinks the root beer while

993
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: I look out the window. Yes, exactly. It's like he

994
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: has a whole other but at the end, it's like

995
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: they want the same things and they're both looking for

996
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: ways to be happy. He just has uh simpler route. Yeah, well,

997
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: Mitsky free idea. Consultant boyfriend, free idea, you might be

998
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: maybe you're struggling coming up with new songs, and maybe

999
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: think about your consultant boyfriend that you have. I'm like,

1000
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: I kind of I feel like I really did not

1001
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of hit the mark when I was trying to

1002
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: sing my consultant Boyfriend by Mitsky. I'm trying to think

1003
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: what other Here's the thing. I know what you mean,

1004
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: because it's very much like he's doing something and she's

1005
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: looking up the window having a different experience because she's

1006
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 1: seeing it in a different way, like it's rare. He's

1007
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: like he's oblivious. It's like as he unwinds from a

1008
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: day of work, I call my mother. Yes, yes, Wow,

1009
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: that's so deep. This could be a poem. Honestly, Consultant

1010
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: glter has brought us so much. Yeah, pretty much agree.

1011
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean we we wouldn't have billions without it. No,

1012
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have billions. Should maybe Sam and I should

1013
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: get a business therapist. I mean, I do think if

1014
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: consulting wasn't a job, we'd have so many lost men

1015
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: out there. And I think it's so beautiful that there's

1016
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: a space for them to go and make a lot

1017
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: of money and feel really important without like doing much.

1018
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: I agree. I also think like it's really important to

1019
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: have jobs. You have to give power points because otherwise

1020
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: those people try to go into the performing arts. Yes,

1021
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I would much rather know a consultant

1022
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: than a guy who's a creative director. Unfortunately, same like uh,

1023
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, like someone who at least a consultant knows

1024
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: what's up, you know, right, and they they don't think

1025
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: they're like a creative director, essentially think they're an artist.

1026
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: You have to convinced them they're not. And it's like,

1027
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: just look at look at the data. You're not an artist. Consultant.

1028
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: A consultant knows he's he knows what his job is. Yeah, yeah,

1029
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: well folks, two consultants. Cheers, a flight of beers. We

1030
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: raise our flights to you. Um, alright, well, any final

1031
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: thoughts on consultant. No, I think we covered it. I

1032
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: think we we've were the only people who know what

1033
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: consultants do. I mean, I definitely feel I kind of

1034
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: came in thinking I'd be the one doing the man splaining,

1035
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: but I've actually learned much more than I've taught. I mean,

1036
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a companion podcast to the

1037
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: show Billions. I think people could sort of hit play.

1038
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: This is um sort of the talking Dead of the

1039
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: Billions world, where you hit play right after you watch

1040
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: the episode and and just get into what is going

1041
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: on on that show? Oh my god, you got one?

1042
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: Do you said to Taylor? Um? All right, I think

1043
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: it's time for a final segment. Let's do our final segment.

1044
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: Our final segments called shout outs, and in it we

1045
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: shout out anything that we are enjoying at all, in

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01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: the style of sort of it's two thousand one and

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01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: you're in Times Square at TRL shouting out to your

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01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: squad back home. Um, and now I ask the most

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01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: important question of all, George, do you have one? I

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01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: will I will do one on the on the fly. Okay,

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: all right, what's up my little chekas and chicos out

1052
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 1: in the ether of the internet that we call home.

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01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: In this day and age. I want to give a

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: quick shout out to a kind of multi prop shout

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Speaker 1: out to a Eurovision which I just watched yesterday. I

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01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: had the time of my life. I think, you know,

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01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: you think you're going to outgrow these things, and honey,

1058
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: I just like it more and more every year. You

1059
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: think you're gonna go and be like, you know, I

1060
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: can't deal with this right now, Like this is literally

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01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: the worst possible songs they've ever heard, performed in the

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01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: worst way I've ever heard, and there are yeah, forty

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Speaker 1: five of them. But guess what it got me? Ukraine one?

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01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: The war is over and we stand harder than ever before.

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Speaker 1: Second prong of that shout out is a shout out

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Speaker 1: to past guest Lindsay Webber for having her annual Eurovision

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01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: party where I see people that I only see once

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01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: a year to watch Eurovision with the only conversations I've

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01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: had with many of these people are about your re

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01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: vision and I celebrate that with my whole heart. And

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01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: then thirdly, I want to give a shout out to

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01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: specifically Serbia's entry, which is about having a healthy body,

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01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: and the stage production of it is that this woman

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: washes her hands in a basin while talking about having

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01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: a healthy body, and then there was a cliffhinger at

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01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: the end because she's like, but even if you have

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01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: a healthy body, what if you have a wretched soul?

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: And it becomes dark? And honestly, it's one of the

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01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: best talks I've ever heard my entire life. So please

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01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: go on Google and just look up Serbia's Eurovision entry.

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Speaker 1: And also it's chorus is in Latin, like the language

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01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: last it is in the language Latin. Wow. I didn't

1083
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: know because resurrected and for the sake of your revision,

1084
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: damn wow. I've heard of found dead in a ditch,

1085
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: but found alive on Eurovision. So that's my three PM

1086
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: shout out that. Um well, I'm going to be completely honest.

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01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: I am absolutely brain dead. Sarah, do you have one?

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01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,439
Speaker 1: I do? I do. I thought of it right before

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01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: we logged on. I was like, oh my god, I

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01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: don't have a shout out, but I do have a

1091
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: shout out. Okay, everyone, what's up. It's Sarah here and

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01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: I I'm here to shout out something that not many

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: people know about, and honestly, I don't feel like many

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01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: people have seen and it's a movie, Avatar. It made

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01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: the most money in the whole world. But I just

1096
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: started watching it. And I say started watching it maybe

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01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: a week and a half ago. Every day, every few

1098
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: days when I'm drinking coffee or like eating a quick meal,

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 1: maybe watched fifteen minutes of Avatar. I have an hour

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01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: and ten minutes left. And it's crazy. First of all,

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: I thought it took place in a computer. It takes

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: place in space. I thought Avatar they go into a

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01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: computer as the blue people. They don't. That is a

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01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: race of being, which is crazy, Which is so crazy

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01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: because it's like they're digital. It's like, it's so crazy

1106
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: to me that I was supposed to believe these humans

1107
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: don't see these people as digital. Like I can't suspend

1108
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: my disbelief enough. And also I don't this makes me

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: sound stupid after what I said about Billions that I

1110
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: don't understand it. But Avatar is very confusing. It's it's

1111
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: like a straightforward story, but the details are confusing. Sometimes

1112
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening. Sometimes I have to rewind

1113
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: another fifteen minutes and then I'm backwards in my Avatar watch.

1114
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: And it's like really stressing me out because I just

1115
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: want to finish it. I feel like I know what

1116
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: happens at the end. I think the guy who spoiler alert,

1117
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: the white guy, betrays the blue people. I think he

1118
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: makes it up to them in the end. Um, I

1119
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: don't know if he does yet. How far along are you? Um?

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01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm at the part where UM like, like, I haven't

1121
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: watched it since I watched it in theaters. Giovanni Rabus

1122
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: Is that his name? Oh? I didn't, I didn't remember.

1123
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: He plays a bad guy who's like barely in the movie.

1124
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: And he's like, because there's like an energy source on

1125
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: Avatar Island or whatever it's uh, is that that's unobtainium

1126
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: or sure, which it was like one of those really

1127
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: funny names. It's like you literally named it unobtainium. Yeah,

1128
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: and it's like it's hard to obtain he created a

1129
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: world here with a language anyway, He's like destroy the village,

1130
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: like we have to make these people leave their land

1131
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: so that we can get an obtainia. And then they

1132
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: and they realize he the white guy. Um, who's not

1133
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: in any movie. He's Sam Worthington. Yeah, he just kind

1134
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: of like he's not in anything. Yeah. Yeah, we froze

1135
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: that moment in time, Like at the time he was

1136
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: an ascending actor and now we have to see him

1137
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 1: in the sequel and it's like, well, you're not You're

1138
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: You're over, Like, yeah, this, Zoe Saldana is like, you

1139
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: betrayed me. And I recognized the scene from seeing it

1140
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram and and Twitter all the time because there's

1141
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: a scene that shows them doing it without the c

1142
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: G guy and they're just like in a green screen

1143
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: in these suits with like these cameras on their faces

1144
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: and she's like acting her ass off. So shout out

1145
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: to Zoe Saldana for that huge I don't know if

1146
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: I like Avatar. I I don't know, but you know what,

1147
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm watching it and I'm learning and no one wants

1148
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: to talk about it with me because they're over it.

1149
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: Well it's been a decade, I assure you. When the

1150
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: sequel comes out, people are there's gonna be a lot

1151
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: of rehashing old bits and so Gourney Weaver's in it,

1152
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: that's great. I love her. I mean the second one,

1153
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to be there in theaters. You know, I'm

1154
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: gonna get some merch. I think I cannot believe that

1155
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 1: this movie is having a sequel so long after the

1156
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: first one came out. It's crazy and there's gonna be

1157
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: five of them, or it's like it's it's absolutely insane.

1158
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: Five I think, I think literally five. What can possibly happen?

1159
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but it's gonna be good or something.

1160
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be art pop Um, okay, I'll I have

1161
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: a what's up everybody? This is my shout out. Welcome

1162
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: to it, Hi, and hello. I would like to give

1163
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: a shout out to um expensive juices. Yes, I'm talking

1164
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: somewhere between the eight and twelve dollar range for that

1165
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: little little bottle of juice. Oh baby, if you can

1166
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: get one with some ginger and carrot and and maybe

1167
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: a little lemon. Hey, as long as it burns and

1168
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: clears up my nose. I feel incredible. I'm having allergies

1169
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: for the first time in my life, which is amazing,

1170
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm part of a community of

1171
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: people with allergies and we can sort of complain about

1172
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 1: pollen as one and um. With that, I've now started

1173
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: having juice because I God, I got to have something

1174
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: that feels something like medicine and money. Oh baby, it's

1175
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: meant to be spent, and I'm going to spend it

1176
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: on expensive juices. Yes, yes, yeah, I totally agree. And

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01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: I started drinking them too, and you just feel good.

1178
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: They are so satisfying. I had to kind of scale

1179
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: it back when I lived in California, especially where like

1180
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: the only culture they have is juices. I really I

1181
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: almost signed up for a thing where you like pay

1182
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: monthly for and get them like dir and I was like, okay,

1183
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,799
Speaker 1: I can't do this. Wow, I love that. Well, well, Sarah,

1184
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: this has been incredible. Thanks, thank you so much. I

1185
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: was really nervous because I think you guys are so funny.

1186
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I know that I sound like a fake

1187
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: saying that, like it sounds like I'm kissing your ass.

1188
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: But truly, I was like, oh my god, I'm going

1189
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: to go on stradio and what if I can't What

1190
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: if I can't do it? But you guys made me

1191
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: feel really good. I would say you really you lead

1192
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: the way you defined what the episode was. You were

1193
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: a leader rather than a follower, which is difficult for

1194
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: a guest sometimes. And honestly, you taught me what consulting is.

1195
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: It's crazy that we all learned what consulting is from

1196
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah. The power of consulting, it turns out,

1197
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: is friendship. Yeah. Keith Calm and Stradio one. Wow, well

1198
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: that's a perfect ending