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Speaker 1: Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Miinki listener. Discretion is advised.

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Speaker 1: What makes someone a royal? This isn't a loaded or

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Speaker 1: a trick question. I'm actually asking trying to come up

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Speaker 1: with a common sense, non dictionary definition. Maybe it's easier

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Speaker 1: to start by asking how somebody becomes a royal? Well

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Speaker 1: blood right, Certainly, that's the first and easiest way to

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Speaker 1: get into the aristocracy. You are literally grandfathered in if

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Speaker 1: your ancestors are nobles in a certain country. Barring a revolution,

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Speaker 1: you'll also be a noble. Although even after a revolution

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Speaker 1: there were plenty of Russian aristocrats who fled the country

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Speaker 1: and settled in various European manners and hotel rooms and

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Speaker 1: still called themselves dukes and duchesses. What have you without

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Speaker 1: a country? So blood there it is. But you can

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Speaker 1: also be granted a title by a royal for an

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Speaker 1: act of service or greatness, or you can marry a royal.

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Speaker 1: Those are two ways for a commoner to insert his

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Speaker 1: or herself into an already existing system of nobility. You

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Speaker 1: probably won't be the main monarch, but you'll still get

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Speaker 1: a title, And then there's the coup strategy. If you

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Speaker 1: can overthrow a king, then you become the king so

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Speaker 1: long as the military and certain foreign powers will accept you.

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Speaker 1: So what is the actual common denominator then that unites

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Speaker 1: the cousins, the spouses, the usurpers, what makes them all

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Speaker 1: real royals? That then diagram becomes even harder to reckon

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Speaker 1: with when you add in a country like Belgium, which

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Speaker 1: imported in a semi random Bavarian prince to be their

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Speaker 1: king in eighteen thirty one because they figured that any

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Speaker 1: self respecting independent European country needed a king. It's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily money that makes a king. There are plenty of

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Speaker 1: royals who are history rich and cash poor, and it's

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Speaker 1: certainly not actual power. Just ask any of the present

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Speaker 1: day royals whose days consist more of charity events and

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Speaker 1: ceremonial displays than declarations of war. I suppose, at its

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Speaker 1: most basic core, if you strip away the factor of

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Speaker 1: historical precedent and focus only on any given moment actually

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Speaker 1: in the present, A monarch is a figure supported by

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Speaker 1: the people or government financially or otherwise, who can offer

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Speaker 1: opinions or proclamations, who attend the needs of the people

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Speaker 1: to the best of their ability, who serve as a

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Speaker 1: uniting symbol, someone that the government and the people have

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Speaker 1: decided is a monarch. With that in mind, and only

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Speaker 1: semi ironically, in honor of A Berl Fool's Day, I

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Speaker 1: ask you to consider the curious case of Emperor Norton

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Speaker 1: the First, the man who in eighteen fifty nine declared

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Speaker 1: himself to be the Emperor of the United States. Most

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Speaker 1: contemporary accounts saw him as an eccentric if they were

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Speaker 1: being polite, insane if they weren't. But today, now that

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Speaker 1: we've moved past fiefdoms and protectorate, maybe the entire notion

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Speaker 1: of royalty, of someone being born more worthy of power

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Speaker 1: than somebody else, is a little bit insane. And there's

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Speaker 1: certainly nothing more American than a man who decided what

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Speaker 1: he wanted to be and then lived it. I'm Danis Schwartz,

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Speaker 1: and this is noble blood. The man who would eventually

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Speaker 1: style himself as Emperor. Norton the First was born in Deptford, Kent,

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Speaker 1: present day a part of London, on November fourth, eighteen eighteen,

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Speaker 1: to English Jewish parents. There's actually some historical disagreement as

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Speaker 1: to the actual year that Norton was born. Even his

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Speaker 1: obituary when he died gave his age as quote about

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Speaker 1: sixty five. But from what I've read, eighteen eighteen seems

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Speaker 1: to be the year with the most documented supporting evidence,

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Speaker 1: and that evidence includes the record of Norton being two

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Speaker 1: years old when his parents moved from England to South

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Speaker 1: Africa in eighteen twenty. After the Napoleonic Wars, England was

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Speaker 1: facing an unemployment crisis, and the government responded by encouraging

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Speaker 1: their citizens to move to England's African Colony. The promise

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Speaker 1: to be known as the eighteen twenties settlers, and though

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Speaker 1: the eastern border of the colony never became the densely

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Speaker 1: at least enough stable income for Norton's parents to go

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Speaker 1: on to have six more children. Norton's mother died in

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Speaker 1: eighteen forty six and his father died just two years later,

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Speaker 1: leaving Norton as an orphan. In his early thirties. Without

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Speaker 1: meant that he inherited whatever property was left over after

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Speaker 1: he was willing to cross oceans to chase opportunity. He

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Speaker 1: in eighteen forty nine, and Joshua Norton was going to

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Speaker 1: of contention amongst those who study and write about Norton's life.

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Speaker 1: Right after Norton's death, an obituary asserted that Norton had

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Speaker 1: arrived in San Francisco with forty thousand dollars an inheritance

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Speaker 1: in other sources. You find sometimes by more sensationalist accounts,

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Speaker 1: which also go on to declare that Norton quickly parlayed

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Speaker 1: More detailed biographies imply that Norton's father was actually in

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Speaker 1: his father's business and paying off debts, Norton still had

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Speaker 1: a decent inheritance, and it's more than possible that he

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Speaker 1: turned that inheritance into a hefty profit once he reached California.

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Speaker 1: Although to me the two d and fifty thousand dollar

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Speaker 1: say that by eighteen fifty two Norton was a member

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Speaker 1: a status that wouldn't last long. In December of eighteen

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Speaker 1: a business acquaintance came into Norton's office. The man pulled

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Speaker 1: a handful of rice from his pocket. Excellent quality. Where

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Speaker 1: did you get that? Norton asked. There are two hundred

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Speaker 1: rice came from Peru. It's the only rice San Francisco

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Speaker 1: Peruvian rice for twelve cents a pound. He would control

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Speaker 1: Norton was all set to make a tidy profit until

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Speaker 1: to make matters worse, the two hundred thousand pounds of

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Speaker 1: a sure fire investment. Norton was ruined. He claimed that

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Speaker 1: avoid his contract and began a lengthy legal battle. Norton

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Speaker 1: Norton's holdings were foreclosed on. Norton declared bankruptcy, fed up

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Speaker 1: and exasperated by the American judicial system. In eighteen fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: was a proud man, and he remained in seclusion until

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Speaker 1: he was ready to be reborn. On September sevent eighteen

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Speaker 1: Daily Evening Bulletin. It read, at the peremptory request of

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Speaker 1: a large majority of the citizens of these United States,

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Speaker 1: I Joshua Norton, formerly of Algoa Bay, Cape of Good Hope,

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Speaker 1: and now for the past nine years and ten months

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Speaker 1: of San Francisco, California, declare and proclaim myself Emperor of

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Speaker 1: these Us, and in virtue the authority thereby in me

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Speaker 1: vested do hereby order and direct the representatives of different

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Speaker 1: states of the Union to assemble in the Music Hall

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Speaker 1: of this city on the first day of February next

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Speaker 1: then and there to make such alterations in the existing

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Speaker 1: both at home and abroad in our stability and integrity.

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Speaker 1: it never happened, But Norton wasn't entirely wrong about the

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Speaker 1: We were a year away from Abraham Lincoln being elected president,

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Speaker 1: He figured an emperor would be just the thing to

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Speaker 1: fix us. He had delivered his typewritten proclamation to newspaper

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Speaker 1: always hidden beneath a beaver hat, although eventually he would

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Speaker 1: Union soldier along with the rest of a blue Union uniform.

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Speaker 1: by Union deserters. Over time, Norton's uniform gradually became more elaborate.

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Speaker 1: He was gifted gold plated epaulets that he affixed to

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Speaker 1: with a cane. His politics were progressive. His first proclamation

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Speaker 1: that Chinese people be permitted to testify in court. Quote,

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Speaker 1: Norton wrote and with respect to Native Americans, Norton wrote

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco, at least, it didn't take long for

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