1 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: joining us. We are so excited to be back. Coming 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: back every week is such a joy. How are you 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: doing today, Susan. 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: I'm doing wonderful, Still wishing I was in Saint Martin 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: and that nice, warm sun. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Let me just saying to everyone out there, you're going 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: to be hearing Susan saying this, oh probably until we 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: go back there next year, that she wishes she was back, insane. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: I love it there, I love it there. 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Please send us your questions, 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: your updates. You can dm us at Instagram at ba'slor 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Send away your questions. We love answering them 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: today though, we have a really exciting conversation. We're going 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: to talk about all things dating apps. Oh, good people, 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: Oh dating apps. Where do we even begin, Susan, I 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: don't even know generally, what's your thought on dating apps? 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, I'd like to open my own 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: business to help people, especially men, tak theirself. 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: We're going to get to them. We're going to get 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: to that. But in general, what do you think of 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: dating apps? Do you think they're good? Do you think 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: they're what? 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Are you there? 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Well? 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: I've had some luck and then not so much. I 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: think it's the way of the world in this error 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 2: that we're in twenty twenty five. That's what everybody does. 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: It's more difficult to meet people organically. I think it 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: was a good thing for a lot of people. I 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: do weddings, as you know, and I've married, so nine 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: out of ten of them met on a dating app. 43 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: So yes, I think they work. 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I think they can work. But I also think 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: that people are trying to get back to organic meetings. 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: So you know, you're not just looking at a picture. 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: But let's start with our question of the day, because 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: that's going to really get us into really what we 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: want to talk about here. Well, wait first, before we 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: get into that, I have one more question for you. 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: Have you ever seriously dated a guy you met on 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: a dating app? 53 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: Definitely? 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: For how long? 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: The longest one was three and a half years? 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: Oh, dear heavens, that's a marriage. Three and a half. 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: No, it's not a marriage. 58 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Well, three and a half years, you know, it's a 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: long time. 60 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Real, it's a long time. Somebody else I met on 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: a dating app was two years. 62 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: Really Okay, So the question of the day is actually 63 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: my question, which is what do you think are the 64 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: biggest problems with dating apps right now? And I want 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: to start it off by saying, I think there's so 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: much more to dating than a swipe or a click, 67 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: And yet we have been bludgeoned to death about looks. 68 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: So we see a picture, no not him? Well, I 69 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: just think that's the problem with dating apps. There's so 70 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: many choices. It comes down to, oh, does he look 71 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: good or does she look good? 72 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: It's about a picture, right, and if you didn't take 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: a good picture, they're going to get swiped by. I 74 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: was talking about this earlier with someone, and it's so 75 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: nice to meet somebody organically through a friend or whatever, 76 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: not even set up on a date and just get 77 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: to know somebody. They might not be as handsome as 78 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: you wanted, but you got to know their personality and 79 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: you could end up really falling for somebody like that. 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: When you're on a dating app, it's about eye candy. 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody you pause on then you go 82 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: down to read about that. 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: That's susan dating. But here's the thing. You're only if 84 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: you're going to be with someone for a lifetime, they're 85 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: going to change, right. Their looks are going to change, 86 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: absolutely so. 87 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: And that's the struggle at my age when you're going 88 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: through the pictures, you know, they don't look like they 89 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: used to look either, do I I get it right? 90 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: And so but to your point, there's so much more 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: to dating than just what the person looks like. But 92 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm but I'm going to say it straight up. For me, 93 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: even at my age of twenty nine, I still have 94 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: to be physically attracted to the person. So before what 95 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: I would would have said, Oh I want a date 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: a guy who's six', two you, Know NOW i did 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: a guy who's five to. TEN i Mean i'm five, eight, 98 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Right but it's about a, look and If i'm not 99 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: attracted to them, Physically i'm going to. 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: STRUGGLE i would have to want to kiss. Somebody but 101 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: WHO i find attractive the next person might, not you 102 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: know WHAT i, mean that's just in the eye of the. 103 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: Behold but What i'm saying. 104 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: Is if you the biggest problem with the dating apps 105 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: for me is there's so many of. Them ALTHOUGH i 106 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: did my research on this whole. THING i, mean we'll 107 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: get into. It but according to some people THAT i 108 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: interviewed who were in their, thirties they, said you, know 109 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: everybody's on every dating, app so you know you don't 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: have to go on three or four of. Them and in, 111 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: fact you, know if you're on, one you're looking at 112 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: pretty much everything that's out. There but, again you're not getting. 113 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Down you're not scrolling down to find out who they're really. 114 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: About is they even say what they're really. About you're 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: just looking at a. Picture, WELL i. 116 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: Have two problems with the dating. Apps, one there's so 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: many fake, profiles oh for, sure AND i could tell 118 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: you who they are just. Boom there's a lot of 119 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: Foreign they'll use the WORD m instead OF i. Am 120 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: they'll SAY m going OR M i can't call. Them, 121 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: yeah it's. 122 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: Crazy well the. Grammar the grammar is a big. Kickoff 123 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: the other one is the. Pictures you can tell they're 124 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: like gluten paste it or. Whatever but that's but fake 125 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: people were, everywhere, Right so what's your other? 126 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: Problem but that's a problem though a lot of women 127 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: fall for that attention and they want to get to 128 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: know you right. AWAY i MEAN i could pretty much 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: read through, it. Okay and the other problem is they 130 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: might be really nice guys and they don't have anybody 131 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: to take their picture and they're doing a selfie in the, 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: Bathroom like that is the worst picture. Ever. 133 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, well LIKE i, said we're going to get into 134 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: how to help people on dating. Ups but, again how 135 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: sad is that that a guy who might be a 136 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: fabulous guy made a stupid decision to take a picture 137 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: of himself shirtless with a baseball cap on, backwards holding 138 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: a beer in one hand a dead fish and the 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: other in the. Bathroom like how many That i'm? SAYING 140 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: i was grouping all the wrong things together in one, 141 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: Sentence BUT i think that it's Just and then you've 142 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: got the distance, thing like do you just want to date? 143 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Someone how far you can put. 144 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: Your mileage in you but you know, what do you 145 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: want to? 146 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Drive, well in your, case do you want to drive 147 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: fifty miles for a? Date you, KNOW i don't really. 148 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: WANT i, MEAN i, mean they're not all in your. Hometown, 149 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: baby you got got to give a. 150 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: Little i'm willing to give a. Little But i'm saying 151 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: dating apps don't make it easy because there's you know 152 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: WHAT i wish they would. DO i just had a brilliant. 153 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: IDEA i just had a brilliant. Idea what if you 154 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: recorded a live you know they? Have they, do, Absolutely 155 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: i've never seen. It, yes they do choose not. To 156 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: i've Never i've never in all the dead and Apps 157 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: i've been, on really. 158 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: And you can view them and hear them talk and 159 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: some of them are, funny some of them are more. 160 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: Serious all, Right, well everybody, tries you. Know but it 161 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: is a good thing, too BECAUSE i don't know what 162 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: the percentage would. Be but LIKE i, said so many 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: people fall in. Love my daughter got married from a 164 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: dating app and the PEOPLE i married them interviewing for 165 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: a wedding that they were here last. Night they met On. 166 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: Tinder it's like amazing. MATCH i, mean so many of, 167 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: them and then others can't find. Anybody my worst thing 168 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: was going back on after a three year a break from, 169 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: them and the same people are in. THERE i, know. 170 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: But you know what they're send out about? 171 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: Us yeah, Right i'm, back all. 172 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: Right before we get into dissecting the dad and, apps 173 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: which we are going to, DO i had to answer 174 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: some fan. Questions we're going to be giving our advice 175 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: as always, so but first we want to read a 176 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: dating app horror story that was written into. Us oh, 177 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: boy that's going to get us. Started, Okay kathy, Writes 178 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: just to be, clear it is not This. Kathy it 179 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: is A kathy that wrote. In it was my first 180 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: time putting myself back out there and agreeing to an 181 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: in person. Date we had been chatting through a dating 182 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: app for a couple of, weeks AND i agreed to 183 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: meet for. DINNER i made arrangements for my, son then 184 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: headed back into town for. Dinner WHEN i, arrived he 185 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: was drunk and was not the person in the photos he. 186 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: Used he used his quote better looking friends. PHOTOS i 187 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: was so. UPSET i sat down and told him not 188 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: to speak to. ME i told him this for inconveniencing. 189 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: Me i'd be ordering the most expensive meal and maybe eat. 190 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: Half i'd order a bottle of wine and only have 191 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: a glass BECAUSE i was, driving AND i would be 192 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: ordered dessert but only have one. Bite THEN i would. 193 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: Leave the waitress gave me a high five and a 194 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: hug WHEN i walked. Out fifteen years, LATER i can 195 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: laugh about. It WHAT i THINK i think THAT i 196 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: think HER i give her great. Kudos what do you 197 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: THINK i sent to? Humor, yeah, man to screw. YOU 198 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: i don't think she. Said, REMEMBER i think she was 199 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: furious she'd had it to say That i'm going to do. 200 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: This i'm going to do. 201 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: This the guy was not going to stand for. That 202 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: he's a drunk ass, loser get up and. 203 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: Leave, well that's funny you say, that that's exactly WHAT 204 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: i would have. DONE i wouldn't have said what she. 205 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: SAID i Probably i'd probably counsel. 206 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: Him, really, dude really really brought me all the way out. 207 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: Here and this is how. 208 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: You show, trumps not even. Drunk, yeah you can't talk 209 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: to her. Drunk rule that. Awful never to a drunk, 210 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: which by the, WAY i Normally i'm very, polite AND 211 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: i would normally have sat down and had a drink 212 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: and then, said you, know this isn't what da da da, 213 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: dada but a DRUNK i. Wouldn't i'm not. Staying i'm 214 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: out of. HERE i wouldn't have sat, down ordered, dinner, wine. 215 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: DESSERT i wouldn't have done, it would. 216 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,119 Speaker 2: YOU i wouldn't have entertained? It absolutely. 217 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: Not. 218 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 2: NO i MEAN i like, her she. DID i like your, style, 219 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: HONEY i like your. Style BUT i don't know why 220 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: it took you fifteen years to laugh about. It you 221 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: should laugh on the way. 222 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: HOME i was laughing reading. That but you, KNOW i. 223 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: WONDER i wonder if she's. Married. NOW i, Wonder, kathy 224 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: are you? Married are you in a? RELATIONSHIP i, mean 225 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: what's the Day i'll tell? Us we want to know 226 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: what app was? 227 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 2: It SO i don't go on? 228 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: It oh? Please you know that's the other. Thing he's 229 00:11:52,760 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: probably on every. App Oh, god all. 230 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Right this one's FROM cc and she's thirty. Eight, Hi 231 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: kathy And. SUSAN i WISH i didn't have to be writing, 232 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: this but here we, are AND i need your. Advice 233 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: my parents have been married for thirty, years and my 234 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: dad was recently out of town on a work. Trip 235 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: my friend who lives in the city where he was 236 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: visiting for work sent me a very upsetting. Screenshot oh, 237 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: god his profile on a dating. App i'm certain it 238 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: wasn't a cat fish because the photos are only pictures 239 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: he would, have they aren't elsewhere. Online and he did 240 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: the voice memos See kathy the voice memos prompt and 241 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: it's his. Voice my question, is what THE f DO i? 242 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: Do DO i confront my? Dad DO i tell my? 243 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: Mom advices both needed and appreciate. It thank, you, ladies 244 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: love you. BOTH i can tell you SOMETIMES. 245 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: I think you AND i are becoming each, other BECAUSE 246 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: i honestly thought you were gonna, say tell her, mother 247 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: AND i was gonna have to, Say, susan, no, No, 248 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: SUSAN i don't know my father and let him. KNOW i, 249 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: Know i'd let him know so quickly. Caught but REALLY 250 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: i would say the same. THING i would do the same. 251 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Thing and you know what my advice would, Be tell your, 252 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: father tell him to make it, right figure it. Out 253 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: if he wants to get out of the, marriage get 254 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: out of the, marriage but don't do what he's. Doing 255 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: and THEN i would shut the f up and say. 256 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: NOTHING i would never tell my. Mother every YEARS i 257 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: don't know then WOULD i, THOUGH i, mean it's the same. 258 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: Thing would you tell your daughter's. 259 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: Other stories your? Mother so wait a, Minute so the 260 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: guy her, friend the town that their dad went, to 261 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: that's where he saw it and took a screenshot of. 262 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: It why does that man think that screen that his 263 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: profile is not going to show up everywhere in his 264 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: hometown even you, know why does he think it was 265 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: safe to be there and do? It that's? 266 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Crazy aren't there some apps that you can just do 267 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: in a PARTICULAR i think you. Can you can set 268 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: the parameters just for. 269 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: There so his, Wife, oh but the likelihood of it 270 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: coming up when he gets home and that phone. 271 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: Notes where you? AT i honestly, thinks, WELL i think 272 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: there are apps that you can just set a, location 273 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i, DO i really. Do and you know, what 274 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: that is absolutely. Superfluous say that three times quickly to the. 275 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: Conversation the guy's a, cheater and he's cheating and he. 276 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: Does trying to cheat. Anyhow, Oh i'm so, sorry. 277 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: Sweetie i'm talk to your. 278 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: Dad let him. Know give that a disgrace and you're 279 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: not proud of. Him, Boy either get it down or tell. 280 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: Mom let him Tell. Mom he's not going to tell. 281 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: Mom he's not telling. 282 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: Mom obviously he wants to cheat and he needs to. 283 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: Go you think. What i'm. Sorry we're going to back 284 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: up for a minute just to help me here while 285 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: just stay with. Me WHY i talk To. Susan, susan 286 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: he is not going to fess up to his. Wife 287 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: he's secretly on a dating. 288 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: App, okay but he wants to, cheat, Right he wants 289 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: to get a test to cheat, Somebody so then make 290 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: your end your. Marriage you don't get to do that 291 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: and stay. 292 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: Married guess why cheating sometimes is an exit. Strategy not 293 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: THAT i. Approve, OKAY, cec talk to your, dad give him, 294 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: hell tell him to grow up and either you, know 295 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: get off the dating apps or if he's that, unhappy 296 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: they need to get into counseling or they need to you, 297 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: know do the BIG. D but don't let him do. 298 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: That that's embarrassing to. 299 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: Him and don't tell, mom. 300 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: And don't tell. Mom we wish you. Luck let US 301 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: knowe see what. Happens, Okay, anonymous, Rights hi, LADIES i 302 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: have a bit of a crazy. Question first of, All, 303 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: anonymous there are no crazy, questions, Okay And i'm wondering 304 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: what you'd. THINK i met this guy On hinge and 305 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: he seems really. Great he's been super nice and we've 306 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: been talking every day for the past two. Weeks this 307 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: week has all been via, text so we finally got 308 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: off the app over FaceTime this. Week he said he 309 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: wanted to fly me out To hawaii next, week all expenses. 310 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: PAID i was so excited UNTIL i told my friends 311 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: and they freaked. Out they're worried that he's creepy and 312 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: THAT i shouldn't fly across the country to see him 313 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: after only talking to him. ONLINE i think he seems, 314 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: fun But i've only known him for two. Weeks what 315 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: do you THINK i should? Do is there any WAY 316 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: i can, go like IF i ask him some. QUESTIONS 317 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: i really want a free, trip. Honestly. Lol thanks. Ladies, 318 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: okay this is so, easy Because, Susan i've been in this, 319 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: situation HAVEN'T. I. 320 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: Yes first of, all you got a FaceTime and make 321 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: sure that the person is who you think you exactly 322 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: well she said over FaceTime this. 323 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: Week, okay but were you facetiming or was it just FaceTime. 324 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: Chat there's a, Difference so you be a, person. Right 325 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: have you seen HIM i. WOULD i would IF i 326 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: were you, anonymous get his cell, number pay For verify 327 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: whatever it is been verified, verifying do a background check on. 328 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: Him it's worth the whatever you, pay especially if you're 329 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: getting a free trip To. Hawaii don't just hop on 330 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: a plane and go To hawaii for a guy you 331 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: don't know who he. 332 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: IS i would also want to know the arrangements as 333 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: to would she have her own hotel? Rooms, OH i 334 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: just assume that her to go to his. HOME i, 335 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: mean what what accommodations are going to be for? 336 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Me, well that is a no. BRAINER i would assume. That, 337 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: hell you can't. Assume, yeah there is an ass in 338 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: the word. 339 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: Assume, Okay, okay all, like if you're both feeling something 340 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: and you want to, go, go let people know where 341 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: you're going to, be phone numbers and so. 342 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: On. Okay but on the other, hand you, know if 343 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: something happens like that long, ago remember that girl that 344 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: disappeared In, ARUBA i, THINK i, mean what good does 345 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: it do if somebody knows where you are if they 346 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: can't get to. 347 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: You it's a chance to. 348 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: Take but do you take that chance after knowing someone two? 349 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: Weeks would? 350 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: You it depends on who it WAS i guess or 351 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: HOW i. Felt, mmm, Well i'll tell you, this and 352 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: is it first? CLASS i, mean. 353 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: You, know you know WHAT i? Do you? Know here's 354 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: WHAT i didn't hear in. This she said he's super. 355 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Nice she, GOES i really want a free? Trip is 356 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: that really why you? Want i'm not hearing that you're 357 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: into the free. 358 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: Trip you're not going to be able to do your 359 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: own thing, Anyhow you're going. 360 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: To be with this. 361 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: Person you're going to be with, him you know that's 362 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: the Silly but If i'm not interested in? 363 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: Him but are you hearing? That i'm not seeing that 364 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: in this, Question she's. 365 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: Worried about her friends freaking. 366 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: Out, well can she should be. 367 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: All expenses? Paid he wanted to fly me. OUT i 368 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: was so. Excited here's WHAT i told my. Friend they 369 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: freak that they worry that he's creepy AND i shouldn't 370 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: fly across the cure's do you want to get? To 371 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: what questions is she going to ask him that's going 372 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: to make her feel? 373 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: BETTER i don't know what does he do for a 374 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: living or does he have? Siblings about his? Parents why 375 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: is he living In? Hawaii where's he? From get a 376 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: lot more, conversation going chit chat for a, month and 377 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: then see after a, month see if he's still, There 378 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: see if he still wants to chat with. 379 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 2: Him, yeah he might wait a little. LONGER i would. 380 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: Wait, Longer. ANONYMOUS i, REALLY i wouldn't do anything with 381 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: a guy after two, weeks even if you said to, 382 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: Me i'm in. LOVE i think he's. GREAT i didn't 383 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: expect this. HAPPENED i would, say if you haven't met, 384 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: him you don't. Know you just know what he's like on. 385 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: Text you, REALLY i, mean in today's, world it is 386 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: kind of, scary but it's exciting at the same. Time 387 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: and just keep talking to. Him so, YEAH i might 388 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: let you do. 389 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: That let's give it a little bit and Keep, yeah 390 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: let's give it some more. Time and you know, What, 391 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: anonymous if he pressures you to, go he's not a good, guy, 392 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: right that's a red. Flag you agree or? 393 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: Not, Yes, absolutely he shouldn't pressure. Her you should give 394 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: her as much time as she, needs all, Right so 395 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 2: fass still be, there that's. Right let him know if 396 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: you went anous Plan, anonymous do not. 397 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: Go. Now listen To, Kathy i'm beating your. Mother so 398 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: she decides to do. IT i want to, Know, well 399 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: we want to know if you do it a couple 400 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: of months from. Now we want to hear. 401 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: That now it's a couple of months before it was a. 402 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: Month she's changing her to. People i'm paying attention. 403 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: Here you know. What safety has no, Limits. Susan safety 404 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: has no. 405 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 2: Letue but a similar situation happened with you and you 406 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: were thinking ABOUT. 407 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: I was thinking about. 408 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: It what? Appened you weren't wanting. 409 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: Like the. 410 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: CONNECTION i don't think you felt too much of a, 411 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: connection and you were. 412 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: Scared you were. Scared so you know WHAT i. Listened 413 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: that's Something. Anonymous listen to your. Intuition if you don't have, 414 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: any listen to your friend's. Intuition, okay wist she. Loved be. 415 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: Careful let us know a. 416 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: Right so, Today, susan guess WHAT i have great news for. 417 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: You we're not doing a. Game we're not doing a. 418 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: Game how do you know we're? Not but we're doing 419 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: something that you AND i have discussed so. Much we're 420 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: going to do a dating app. Workshop if we. 421 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: Should into, Business i'm dead. 422 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Serious you AND i know With Bachelor, nation we have 423 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: talked so much about what is? Wrong how we would 424 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: change dating. Apps what's wrong with? 425 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: Them we have, tips we have, tricks we have. Stories 426 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: we're going to share all of this so you can 427 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: find that special someone, else although we didn't find them 428 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: for us. 429 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: Yet, well but you know, what that's the. Point if 430 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: you're doing it the right, way then you're looking for 431 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: the right, one not. Someone we're not looking for what is. 432 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: It we're not looking for today's. Man we're looking for you, 433 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: know our final whatever it. 434 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: IS i never heard that one. 435 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: Looking for a. Guy we're not looking for a. Guy 436 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: we're looking for the. Guy, okay that. 437 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: One works a little. BETTER i just want to find my, 438 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: person damn, it the person that's. 439 00:22:53,920 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: Waif for two. Weeks that's my best advice for. You All, 440 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: right here we, go let's. Go we're gonna, say step by, 441 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: STEP i just want to be in same. Movie, okay 442 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna go step by. Step we are seriously going 443 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: to break down our do's and. Don'ts, okay making your 444 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: profile and using the. Apps, okay let's start with step, 445 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: one which is choosing an. App, okay so the big 446 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: three are for younger. PEOPLE i would Add match for, 447 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: us but younger people don't typically Use match but the 448 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: big three Are, Hinge, bumble and. Tender now for, me 449 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: And i'm, SERIOUS i talked to some people about, This 450 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: tinder used to be a. Hookup it was like you 451 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: want steps to get. On i'm saying it used to. 452 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: Be that's past. Tense DO i just say In? French 453 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: that is past. Tense bumble is the one where the women, 454 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: swipe And hinge is the red so they, say the 455 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: one where they try to build. Connection where they try 456 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: to build, connection which is just some great marketing. Ploy 457 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: BUT i think that theoretically this is just my. Opinion 458 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: i'm curious what you, Think. Bumble you, know women have to, initiate, 459 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: right so they. Swipe, okay so the woman, swipes but 460 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: the guy has to swipe. Back and some of the 461 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: thirty year OLDS i talked, TO i JUST i have 462 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: to read it BECAUSE i was just blown away by 463 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: what they were saying to. 464 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: Me. 465 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Women this is not. Me this is what these girls 466 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: THAT i chatted with were telling. Me, women and they're 467 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: in their, thirties women have to make them first move On, 468 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: Bumble and she said they said it was like a 469 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: group of. Girls guys, think oh she's really into, me 470 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: and men love the. Chase they, said so it becomes 471 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: less desire rable On bumble because there's no chase because 472 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: the woman already, Swiped, Hey i'm interested in. You and 473 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: SO i, said so what do you do and some 474 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: of them, said, well you, know you have twenty four 475 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: hours to reach. Out i'm strictly talking About bumble right. 476 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: Now and so they said they, wait they wait for 477 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: the last, hour, like don't get your you, know don't 478 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: get so excited, here like as a last minute, think oh, 479 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah i'll reach out to, you WHICH i thought was 480 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: really interesting that men's in. 481 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: Their, opinion this is a woman's. Opinion you talk to, women. 482 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: Well a group of, women, yeah and then all, women 483 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: all women because women swipe On, bumble. Okay and Then 484 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: tinder they were, saying you, know that was a low stakes, 485 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: app it was a hook, up so you, know the general, 486 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: psychology this is a, quote the general psychology of. Men 487 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: they like the, chase and men are attracted to women 488 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: they can't. Have and my mouth was dropping when they 489 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: were saying. 490 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: That that's been said for one hundred. 491 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: YEARS i, know but we're talking about apps and how 492 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: it works on the, apps. Right so On tinder they 493 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: were saying men had to work harder to get their 494 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: attention where, bumble you, know they, swiped but then they 495 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: had to wait for the. Men and of course you, 496 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: know younger people are not on. Match and then they 497 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about some of the invitation only 498 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: like the league In rayah and they were, saying you, 499 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: know those men they don't like because that's by invitation 500 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: only those websites and they were, saying, yeah those guys 501 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: think their step above so but we're not going to be. 502 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: Harmony there's so, many there's so many. Blah but so 503 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: first of, ALL i think you need to decide if 504 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: you want to pay or get a free. One now 505 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: there's even On tinder and all of these to get 506 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: to see who liked, you you have to, pay. 507 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: Well you don't you so remember it's a it's a, business. 508 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Absolutely i'd like to have one really to get. 509 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: The high end stuff you have to. Pay But i've 510 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: been on the apps that where you don't have to, 511 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: pay Like tinder and some of, them and, yeah AND 512 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: i get enough people reaching, out BUT i do find 513 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: the same guys on. There what are your favorite, Apps. 514 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: SUSAN i don't have a favorite BUT i hate them, 515 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: all but they do come in, handy they come in. 516 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: HERE i just hate choosing by a, PICTURE i really. 517 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: DO i feel LIKE i don't give somebody the benefit 518 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: of the doubt that he might not take a great 519 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: picture and he might be a great. 520 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: Guy all, Right well let's, Okay so let's start at 521 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: the beginning. Here when you when you first go on 522 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: a dating, app you've got to build a, profile, Right 523 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: so first you got to choose your. APP i would 524 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: say to you choose. 525 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: No matter what app you, choose it's about the. PROFILE i. 526 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Know but But i'm, saying DO i think people should 527 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: go on three or four? Apps? NO i think pick 528 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: one or two and and and work with that because 529 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: it does become like a full time. Job. Scroll so you, 530 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: know pick pick one or two. Apps that's my first. 531 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: Advice all, Right then you got to build a. Profile 532 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: and here's where we get into. It oh, boy, okay 533 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: pictures tell me the, pictures not the, pictures but the 534 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: kinds of pictures you should. 535 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: Choose you would definitely do a couple, headshots maybe doing an, 536 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: activity and definitely most definitely a full body. Shot maybe 537 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: that is playing golf or whatever activity you chose or 538 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: walk in you're playing with your dog or, whatever but 539 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: they want to see who you. 540 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: Are, YEAH i THINK i think a good start to 541 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: building a profile is five or six. Pictures one is 542 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: a close up. Headshot it goes without, saying But i'm 543 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: going to say. It, Please Dear, god do not use old. 544 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: Pictures you the pictures you should be no more than 545 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: a year. Old no more than a year. Old put 546 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: up pictures of you if you like to, wait, lift 547 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: you like to, kayak you like. 548 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: To, ski doing, something put up pictures of. 549 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: Things you like to, do because, that's you, know that's 550 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: what's going to attract. Someone, oh this guy is not 551 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: a couch. Potato don't put. 552 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: A picture of you in a group even three. People 553 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: you don't know which one you, are that's. Exactly And 554 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: i've run into that a, lot like who is it? 555 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: WHAT i don't even know who you are exactly and 556 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: that's the only. Picture, Yeah so pictures are, important and 557 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: you want to picture you feel is your best. 558 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: Shot. 559 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: Ye do not take selfies in a bathroom. 560 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: Wait can you? Wait Stop? Susan how do you repeat? 561 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: That? Please do, NOT i, repeat take a selfie in 562 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: the bathroom room. 563 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Tacky, ever and For god's, sakes, men keep your, shirt 564 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: your clothes, on put your keep your clothes. On do 565 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: not hold up. BEERS i live in tech WHERE i don't. 566 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: Know tell me guys think it's really cool to take 567 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: off their, shirts pull up a can of beer or 568 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: a dead fish or. 569 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: Both how about the big? Fish but what that tells 570 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 2: me is that's what they like to. Do they're proud 571 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: of that because they caught this big. Fish to, me 572 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: it's not SOMETHING i don't like. Fishing so, yeah WHATEVER i, 573 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: MEAN i will pass that. 574 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: One. 575 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah but so you, know want to entice, Somebody you 576 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: want somebody to take a closer look and look at 577 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: all your, Pictures so do something sweet and LIKE i, 578 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: said show all of you and try to incorporate in 579 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: your pictures your personality. 580 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Right which you know can be. DIFFICULT i think sometimes 581 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: it's good to have a black and white photo show 582 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: that you know you're a little. Creative don't have all the. 583 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: Pictures maybe angle some of the, photos you, know put 584 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: a caption off of, you do some. Highlighting if you 585 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: don't want to do, it ask one of your kids 586 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: or a friend and to help you make the picture look. 587 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: Interesting because they're too. 588 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: Sexy because they'll get the wrong. Impression SO i can't 589 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: believe you just said. THAT i want to tell you 590 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: about a friend of mine who is. Single she is 591 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: fifty two years. Old she is a BODY i would kill. 592 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: Four she's very pretty and exactly. That she said to, Me, 593 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: kathy would you. 594 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Look at my? PROFILE i, said, sure she, goes Because 595 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: i'm attracting the wrong kinds of, GUYS i, said. SURE 596 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: i looked at her. Profile, SUSAN i almost. Died this 597 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: woman is a school. Teacher she's, lovely she's lots of. 598 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: Fun BUT i mean her pictures made her look like 599 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: she was looking for a. Hookup And i'm going to 600 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: change her. Name i'm going to call Her. Sally sally, 601 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: SAID i, Said, sally what are you? Doing look at this? 602 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: Picture she, goes WHAT i, said what you look like 603 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: you're inviting the wrong kind of, Guy and she, GOES 604 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: i never thought about it that. WAY i, said we'll 605 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: start thinking about it that. Way and so she took 606 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: down all her pictures and we redid. Them because, guys 607 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: when you're creating a, profile you know who you. Are 608 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: susan knows WHO i. AM i know Who susan, is 609 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: but people looking at us on the internet, don't and 610 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: all they have to go by initially are those. Photos 611 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: so you want to make yourself look as. 612 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: Attractive SOMETIMES i think women need that, Attention they want that, 613 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 2: attention so they do put these sexy pictures. Up, well 614 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: then don't get me. Surprised if you're looking for, that then. 615 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: Fine but if you're serious and you want to find 616 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: a good, guy. 617 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah you, know if you're showing with a making it. 618 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: Up but if you're putting yourself out there as a 619 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: woman in a wet t, shirt you, Know And i'm just, 620 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: saying that's what you're going to. Attract, guys if you 621 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: put yourself out there looking like you're a, bumpkin you're 622 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: going to tracked female. Bumpkinetts. Whatever you attract what you 623 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: put out. There AM i? 624 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: Wrong, no, no, no, no not at. All and that's 625 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: just the picture. 626 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: Part that's just the, pictures, Folks so spend the time 627 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: cultivating a good five or six. 628 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: Pictures, also, yes good, Point, kathy don't put just one 629 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: picture oh never people need to see Because i've seen 630 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: so many that oh, oh and Then i'm going through 631 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: and by the time you get to the fourth, picture 632 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: he's forty years. Older why are you putting yourself up 633 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: there at twenty when you're, Forty. 634 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: Well you could see what it's. Always let me just 635 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: also say it's a dead. Giveaway when they've taken a 636 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: photo of a photo of them when they were, twenty 637 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: the pictures sort of frayed and, crinkled like you're not pooling. 638 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: Anybody get take those pictures. Down this is WHAT i 639 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: used to look like. Now but you know WHAT i 640 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: want to. Say, yeah AND i used to be at 641 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: five to ten in a. Model i'm not. 642 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: Anymore, Well, KATHY i think we spent all our. TIME 643 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: i think this is going to have to have a part. 644 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: Two what do you? 645 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: THINK i think we have lots more to, say. 646 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely so stay. Tuned we will have a part two. 647 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: Coming smoo