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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast as Bold up this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with some heroes. To my left, Christoph

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Speaker 1: Westling time I right, Greg rose Athal, what's up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan, Hey, hey West here in his lab coat.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of disarming me. You look like a scientist

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Speaker 1: right now. It's kind of a larger white button up.

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Speaker 1: But then you have it over a blue polos, so

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Speaker 1: you do kind of like a hot scientist. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you that. Well. I knew that we were going to

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Speaker 1: be in a colder studio. It's always coolder in here,

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Speaker 1: so I just grabbed a white button down shirt from

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Speaker 1: my chair when I went up here. That's all there

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Speaker 1: was to it. Wow, it's huge, big shirt, big short,

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Speaker 1: big man. And uh Greg Rosethal too, my right back

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Speaker 1: from his big vacation, went back east. Don't hide. You

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Speaker 1: went to the vineyard and you had a nice little week,

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Speaker 1: didn't you had? What is this? He was just taking

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Speaker 1: us there to the coast. The big blue house four

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Speaker 1: stories high, uh private beach front view. Spent a couple

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Speaker 1: of nights in Boston actually with a friend of mine Dave,

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Speaker 1: and met uh some listeners of the show. He's a

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Speaker 1: big time listener in the show. But also talked to

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Speaker 1: some other people that that love the show and um,

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Speaker 1: you know. Then went and stayed with my parents for

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Speaker 1: four or five nights. It was great, first time I

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Speaker 1: had the whole family together with my son. Was this

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Speaker 1: your first time ever on Martha's vingeard? No, okay, I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure that was out there. No,

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Speaker 1: my parents moved there. They retired there about ten ten

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Speaker 1: plus years ago. Well, we missed you while you're gun.

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Speaker 1: You missed a lot. You missed the NFL media summit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: bad timing. You missed the Dodger game, miss some swag

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Speaker 1: from that parents swag softball game, and also a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a nuclear fallout. Well you sent me to

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Speaker 1: my vacation. I meant to TEXTI too, in such a

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Speaker 1: happy mood because he gave me a game ball right before,

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Speaker 1: you know, the day before I got on the plane.

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Speaker 1: What a game Greg had. What a way to go

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Speaker 1: into your vacation with a with a great softball performance.

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Speaker 1: I believe, what do you get on five times in

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Speaker 1: that game that's right, a bunch of R B I S,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of runs scored. Greg is really um stamped.

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Speaker 1: His place on the lineup is now as the skip

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Speaker 1: now comes to time, we're gonna stop pussy footing here

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Speaker 1: was I think Greg has made a very strong case

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Speaker 1: to be a regular at this point. But there was

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Speaker 1: a veteran move getting that piece of job security like

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Speaker 1: a game ball right before you go on vacation. Very smart, Greg,

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Speaker 1: very smart, good timing for your performance. Anyway, that was

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Speaker 1: right after you put him on notice too. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: Greg specifically, but read through the line. Yeah, but Greg again,

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Speaker 1: that's you gotta you know which buttons to push as

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Speaker 1: skip and Greg. Gregored a lot to get to today, um,

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Speaker 1: including an issue that Greg had with the wife of

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Speaker 1: an NFL player, and we'll get to that a little

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Speaker 1: bit later. We also, this is a big upside. It's

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Speaker 1: a big episode, you know, I because we are going

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Speaker 1: to break down players at the crossroads. Uh And what

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Speaker 1: does that mean? That means pro high profile players, stars

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Speaker 1: even who enter the seventeen season and there's a fork

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Speaker 1: in the road for their career. They can go one way,

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Speaker 1: which would be a good way, go the other way

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Speaker 1: takes into some dark territory. Or they can make a

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Speaker 1: deal with the devil that that gives them a little

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Speaker 1: juice for the rest of their career. Nice crossroads, raff,

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Speaker 1: good crossroads raff. Uh. So we'll talk about some players

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Speaker 1: are in kind of a interesting position in their careers entering.

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Speaker 1: That will be fun. Also, a lot of news to

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Speaker 1: get to because how many teams is it? Thirty teams?

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Speaker 1: Thirty teams have their mini camps this week. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little surprise Forlizia. I bet you're little surprise right now,

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Speaker 1: he said, Oh, I thought we didn't have a show

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Speaker 1: until Tuesday. No, no, no no audible data that. Uh, we

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Speaker 1: checked into shotgun formation. We reconfigure some guys, sent a

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Speaker 1: guy in motion, and we're gonna do three shows this week.

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Speaker 1: No Mark, by the way, Mark feeling under the weather.

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Speaker 1: A little food poisoning. Hmm. We'll have to do some

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady diet. Wow, that's a good call. He has

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Speaker 1: been posting a lot of photos from that cookbook, that

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Speaker 1: infernal cookbook. Well Mark likes to be the super sleuth

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Speaker 1: in any scenario. Yeah, I think it'd be cool to

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Speaker 1: have the tables turned on him, so we sleuth around

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Speaker 1: diet there. Yeah, I like that idea a lot. West

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Speaker 1: do you mean by that? At least one more show.

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Speaker 1: Em a VP behind the Glass who did a great

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Speaker 1: job on Thursday was kind of a hybrid show where

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Speaker 1: we had Damna check in uh for Greg, and then

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Speaker 1: Emma behind the glass. Now it's just the three heroes

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Speaker 1: and Emma and I you know, well, I see you

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Speaker 1: could help me with this we want. This is a

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Speaker 1: delicate situation, but uh, you know, streets are talking, streets talking.

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Speaker 1: What are they saying? The reddit board is lit up

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Speaker 1: with seven several different threads about m a VP, several

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Speaker 1: several multiple threads about your prowess on Thursday show. Thanks guys,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And unless we forget that our prior producer,

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Speaker 1: the Immortal la Sid, I'll just leave it here. And

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Speaker 1: I don't want this to be seen as a bribe

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Speaker 1: or a future bribe of some kind basically got a

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Speaker 1: ask yourself, this is that happening on the Dave Damn check. Alright,

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Speaker 1: something to think about. Let's do some news. They maybe drinkers, Robin,

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Speaker 1: but they're also human beings. Yes, Adam West, my favorite Batman,

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Speaker 1: passed away this weekend at eighty eight years old. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you something about Adam West. That show

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Speaker 1: and that show is a major part of my childhood,

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Speaker 1: which really speaks for how that show transcended just the sixties.

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Speaker 1: It was a show on the air for two and

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Speaker 1: a half seasons, two and a half years. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: the news. I'm way in on Adam West. Always was West.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch the old Batman sters? Greg? I know

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Speaker 1: you didn't, but I didn't. He write. My brothers and

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Speaker 1: crazy it is that that movie? Uh? Uh is really

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin has got a job. He's headed to Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: The twenty nine year old again in the Ravens Nest.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear I'll tell you what. I

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Speaker 1: The twenty nine year old Pro Bowl wide receiver UH

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Speaker 1: At the time of this podcast, we don't really have

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Speaker 1: the numbers, but what we know is that Jeremy Macklin

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Speaker 1: They have some serious holes and now this is one

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Speaker 1: each team? Moving on, let's check in on Darrell vis

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Speaker 1: As Bryant, the Dallas Cowboys wide receiver, sent out a

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Speaker 1: tweet a couple of days ago uh At vs. Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I promise you were going to love what we got

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Speaker 1: going on around here, and this is the this is

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Speaker 1: the one that got me. Your attitude fits our culture?

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Speaker 1: Waiting I don't. This is almost like did Dez Bryant

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Speaker 1: fall on the ski slope and suffer head injury that

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Speaker 1: eliminated two thousand sixteen and now he's just waking up

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Speaker 1: and he thinks that does Droll Reevers is coming off

436
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Speaker 1: a season where he was hard working, great locker room presence,

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Speaker 1: exactly the guy that fits the culture of your room.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Droll Rievers matched any winning culture if

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Speaker 1: that's what he's insinuating. But haven't you haven't you said

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Speaker 1: that for you know, every other season. But last year

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Speaker 1: he was is committed and devoted as any player in

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Speaker 1: the he was. I mean, that's why I'm That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm stumping from maybe a major head injury. It

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Speaker 1: led to an amnesia situation, and he he just missed.

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Speaker 1: He just missed last year. Maybe. I mean, he's an

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Speaker 1: all time great who's gone up against him and I'm

447
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Speaker 1: sure respects his game, and that's that's thinking. Well, what's

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Speaker 1: the flip side of that when I read this report,

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this isn't very impressed with the cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are rolling out in practice everything Well. Serene Williams,

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Speaker 1: who's now with Pro Football Talk, Nice move by them,

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Speaker 1: uh picking her up, she reported, Yeah, great move. She

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Speaker 1: reported that the Cowboys are not likely to be interested

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Speaker 1: in it. They drafted a couple of guys. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't think, by the way that your whole revs. This

456
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Speaker 1: has been a blood war this offseason. Will Revs get signed.

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Speaker 1: I've been I've been saying it's not happening. It's been

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Speaker 1: quiet out there, some skin in the game, not a

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Speaker 1: lot of got that look in his eyes, not a

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Speaker 1: lot of the revous talk out there lately. No, I'll certainly,

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Speaker 1: I'll I will not deny that at this point it

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Speaker 1: looks like he doesn't have much of a market. But

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Speaker 1: also there continues and this is one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: you stated that you might not he believe he won't

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Speaker 1: be signed, is that he still has an asking price.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out. That's my number. That's but that's my

467
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Speaker 1: reason one, two and three, and but my reason one

468
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Speaker 1: to three and four was that they got was that

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Speaker 1: this was an all time great competitor who has been

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Speaker 1: run through the ringer and been told he's a bum. Now,

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Speaker 1: as an impartial observer, you gotta give the edge to

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Speaker 1: the I've gotta I've gotta top of actually reasons one

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Speaker 1: to three, four and five at some zero. No, that's

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Speaker 1: dirty pool, my friend. You never go back on five.

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Speaker 1: All right? Anyway? Moving on, uh Friday night, real quick,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots had yet another ring ceremony. Um, congratulations, Greg.

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Speaker 1: I just want to call to attention one the other

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Speaker 1: reason why I was back east. You were there at

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Speaker 1: Craft and manner. I just want to call to attention

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Speaker 1: one thing that got on my grid a little bit

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Speaker 1: got on the old Juser's radar that the Patriots have

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Speaker 1: confirmed that there are two d and eighty three diamonds

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Speaker 1: in their new championship ring, of course, an allusion to

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Speaker 1: uh they were down three in Super Bowl fifty one,

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Speaker 1: and uh I wrote about this on the end round,

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Speaker 1: which you could check out, obviously, saying that's a nod

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Speaker 1: to relentless effort and never never say die attitude. Competitive fire. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: also a reminder that you're getting your ass whipped for

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Speaker 1: about sev that game, and so you're acknowledging that a

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Speaker 1: number two through seven, you are saying you're rubbing that

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Speaker 1: salt in the wound of your opponent a little bit,

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Speaker 1: just a little bit. You're leaning into the thing which

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Speaker 1: has become an Internet. It's obnoxious, yeah, but who needs

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Speaker 1: to three diamonds on a ring? In general? These rings

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Speaker 1: are obnoxious in that way. I think you're combining all

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Speaker 1: the Twitter memes, which I agree have become annoying in

497
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Speaker 1: too much in terms, and the Patriots celebrating what is

498
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Speaker 1: a legitimate thing to celebrate, which is the greatest comeback

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Speaker 1: in professional football history, and that's on the ring too.

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Speaker 1: So I have no problem with that. Gets. I don't

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Speaker 1: like they're rubbing it in. They're not. They're not sending

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Speaker 1: copies to the falcons. They didn't know that this necessarily

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Speaker 1: would go. I would be evil. They're shooting little they're

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Speaker 1: shooting little nuggets. So to Darren Ravelle, the most popular

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Speaker 1: business reporter in the world, let's calm down on him

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Speaker 1: being popular. Well, well, all right, let's count down about

507
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Speaker 1: making it seem like I'm a fan of Darren ravel

508
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Speaker 1: I'm saying we're the most like well known business, sports, business,

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Speaker 1: sporting in the game and confirming that there are two

510
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Speaker 1: three times they want everybody to know that is little

511
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Speaker 1: be above what be above? Talking about a great comeback?

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Speaker 1: I don't, I just I just said it says on

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Speaker 1: the side of the ring like biggest comeback ever. That's

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Speaker 1: totally fine. I get that. But then to Doe thing,

515
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Speaker 1: it's a little too. It's not it's not respectful of

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Speaker 1: the opponent. In my opinion, they just slid down the

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Speaker 1: common man rankings for sure. Diamonds and finally Michael Vick

518
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Speaker 1: and Roddy White had a retirement ceremony. I mean, those

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Speaker 1: rings are ridiculous. Not to cut you off. Yeah, Wade

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Speaker 1: Phillips war one Um, he wore his his ring when

521
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Speaker 1: I interviewed him a couple of weeks ago, and they're outrageous.

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Speaker 1: How could you You couldn't actually wear those anywhere except

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Speaker 1: for I suppose you know, for like a television thing.

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Speaker 1: You can't wear those out? How long has it been

525
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Speaker 1: since people thought they could wear their championship rings out?

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Speaker 1: It's isn't it got to be? Since is it a

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Speaker 1: kind of a strange tradition to in general just the

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Speaker 1: ideal of these rings, Like there's a photo of Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick that the Patriots student out and he's got like

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Speaker 1: his fingers out like Audrey Hepburn the Breakfast Tiphany. It's

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Speaker 1: like a reboot, like look at me here, what are you?

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Speaker 1: What are you posing like that? For? What would you

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Speaker 1: propose is the new ring? Yeah? Like what should take

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Speaker 1: the place of the ring? There is some everybody. The

535
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Speaker 1: thing I didn't like, I thought what you were going

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Speaker 1: to say? What? God on my radar was the tweet

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Speaker 1: that was like, here's the picture everyone's waiting for, And

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Speaker 1: it was like, you know, the picture with Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: holding five rings, and it's like, I guess you gotta

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Speaker 1: you kind of like that board too, don't you. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of it's kind of fun, irreverent, fresh, It's

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Speaker 1: slightly similar to the one in Studio sixty six. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, mechanically, yes, but in terms of the content

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Speaker 1: on it, it's it's a lot more juice. I mean,

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Speaker 1: people don't buy Remember they used to sell high school

546
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Speaker 1: like class rings, but no one would buy them. I

547
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Speaker 1: think we're part of the generation that helped kill that.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think that's a thing anymore because because

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Speaker 1: no one would buy it. Well, right, no one would

550
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Speaker 1: buy them, and I don't know if they're even around anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I have one. I don't think I ever wore

552
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Speaker 1: it ever once. All right, that's what's happening in the news. Oh,

553
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Speaker 1: Greg's walking his daily drop of something about now what

554
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: are you doing? I can pick up anything during the show.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to point it out the list. It's

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Speaker 1: only one that ever gets it? Just shows I'm comfortable

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Speaker 1: all right, players at the crossroads, Oh I'll meet you

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Professor Westling, we're gonna call you today. Are

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Speaker 1: scientists WESTLINGH can you tell us a player at the crossroads.

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00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: on track, it has to be an eleven man effort.

637
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: They've reshuffled their offensive line, they bring in a left tackle.

638
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: They're trying to turn Jared Golf around to get to

639
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: have some respect and not have eight men in the

640
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: box all the time. So this is the year does

641
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley's obvious talent went out or are we gonna

642
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: stop making excuses for him when he when he doesn't?

643
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: So what happens? What happens if he's not that guy

644
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: this year? And there again? Let's say there are once

645
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: again you can make excuses. Why do do the Rams

646
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: go back to it again? Or do you think they

647
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: act on it through the draft of Well, he'll still

648
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: be under a manageable contract, so you would think they're

649
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: not gonna cut him, But you would have to think.

650
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: You have to cover your basis too, you have to

651
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: go get someone to compete with him, and and you

652
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: just start thinking about him differently. And that was the

653
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: case I was trying to make. I wrote about Girly

654
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: earlier in the offseason that yeah, all that stuff about

655
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: the rams is is true. It was a total mess.

656
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: The coach is bad. Maybe it affected him mentally. Whatever.

657
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: If you gave this is a guy that we were

658
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: thinking had a chance to be one of the players

659
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I don't care what was around him.

660
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: If you gave Adrian Peterson the ball three times in

661
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: this second year of his career, he could have been

662
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: playing with a Pop Warner team. Or give Marshall Falk

663
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: the ball three times, or give you know, any sort

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Speaker 1: of all time great, or a guy who's gonna be

665
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: at top of the game that many times, they're gonna

666
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: do something, they're gonna flash, they're gonna play, they're gonna

667
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: show you something. It didn't really a little more company

668
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: suck than that. He didn't show anything. When you fall

669
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: into bad habits, take Aaron Rodgers for an example. For

670
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: nearly a two year period, he went into slumps and

671
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: people spent two significant time during two different seasons, asking

672
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Aaron Rodgers when it was clear that

673
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: he was falling into bad habits. We knew he was

674
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: still talented, but he wasn't producing like Aaron Rodgers should.

675
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: And how much of that is Todd Gurley's talent and

676
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: how much is it the bad habits he's picked up

677
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: the last two years. Yeah, they think the one thing

678
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a scout, but the one thing I think

679
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: you'd like to see out of him would be to

680
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: make people miss in in small areas and even on

681
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: the outside. I mean there were there are plenty of

682
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: times where he had a chance to beat somebody. He

683
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: didn't beat him. He just kind of ran into him

684
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: and he wasn't really running over people. I'm skeptical. You're skeptical,

685
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: but we can tell well, not that he's not. I

686
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: think he'll be good, but I don't know if he'll

687
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: be great. I think I don't think he'll be a bust.

688
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: He'll be better than he was last year. So the

689
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: guy we saw those first five games, that guys just

690
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: no longer there. I guess if I had to major injury,

691
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to believe that that's just not there.

692
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: Here's the good news, guys. We're gonna find out, all right.

693
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: I guess my thought is maybe he's he's a good

694
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: he's a good player that we just got a little

695
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: over excited about, and so he'll be good again, but

696
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: just not. I think West's point is that he flashed

697
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL that he was much more than that,

698
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: and then that guy seemingly disappeared. I'm gonna throw a

699
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: quarterback out there, how about Cam Newton? And uh brief timeline.

700
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: None of this is going to be breaking news, but

701
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: a brief timeline of Cam Newton. An outrageously productive two

702
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen season that ended with the m v P

703
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: Award and then it literally ended at the Super Bowl

704
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: after a great run through the NFC playoffs and they

705
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: they were seventeen and one entering the Super Bowl, and

706
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: then I think things took a sharp turn starting that

707
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: day in uh in San Francisco or north of San Francisco.

708
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: He had the end of the game. He struggled through

709
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: the game against a great Denver defense. I I still

710
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: when I think of Cam, I do think of that

711
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: play at the end of the game where he didn't

712
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: scram for the loose ball. I know some people kind

713
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: of let him off the hook for that, but I

714
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: that really left a sour taste in my mouth. The

715
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: press conference after, I know a lot of people let

716
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: him off the hook for that and and said, no,

717
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: it was the media's fault, It was the the set

718
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: up at the stadium's fault. It was the team on

719
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: the other side of the curtains fault. That wasn't a

720
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: good look. But after the the really sour ending to

721
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: that season, what happens? You would think some players, you know,

722
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: come back better than ever and refocus. He then has

723
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: his worst season ever. Uh, and Carolina has a very

724
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: mediocre season. Uh. He now goes under the knife shoulder surgery.

725
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: He's not gonna throw in mini camp this week, and

726
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: you hope he'll be ready for training camp. And that,

727
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: of course can cloud this type of tracking the situation

728
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: how how healthy is But in general, you wonder if

729
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: maybe Cam Newton is it possible he peaked already? Was

730
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: is he now kind of in uh? Hashtag slight regression.

731
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Don't send me down that road with him, but uh,

732
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: is did we see the best of Cam Newton? And

733
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: I like we'll kind of have a better idea of

734
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: that after this year. Crossroads Baby, Well, we talked about

735
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks ago and Greg mentioned that

736
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: he's his last three years. He's not been a top

737
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: ten quarterback for two of those years, and he was

738
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: m v P the other one. So it's will the

739
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: real Cam Newton please stand up? But he has never

740
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: been an above average passer, except for that three month

741
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: hot streaking during his MVP season. He's always been a

742
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: guy with with wacky mechanics, inconsistent in his mechanics, and

743
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: he's not an accurate passer. And how much, how how

744
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: much longer is he going to be an absolute physical

745
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: specimen at that position, he's taking a beating. He's a

746
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: good passer. I still think he's not strength and weakness.

747
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: He's certainly a good deep passer. I mean, I think

748
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: he has to make tougher th inconsistent deep when when

749
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: he's throwing from the right arm slot, he's he's a

750
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: really good he He is so fascinating because you know,

751
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: Michael Vick officially retired today and he was you know,

752
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: when he came in, he was kind of a quarterba

753
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: that no one had ever seen quite like him, And

754
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: I would say Cam is like that too, just at

755
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: the physicality, and we don't know how his career is

756
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: gonna I mean, we would have realized we never got

757
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: that to the Vic Roddy White thing. It's gone in

758
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: the past like that. We don't know how his career

759
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: is gonna go. After that m v P season, you

760
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: would have thought, Okay, now he's he's starting his way

761
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: into Canton and now I don't know. I think I

762
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: think like a worst case scenario is they have a

763
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: good starting quarterback in Cam Newton. Like I'm not that

764
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: worried about him, but there's a difference between like a

765
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: good starter and asset and in the very top so

766
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: is the MVP season possibly anomally in his career. Is

767
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: he just was that just a moment in time and

768
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: we'll never see that guy? You actually think that's possible.

769
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: He's just now kind of like a goodish quarterback. I

770
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: think he has to adjust his game. And Ben Roethlisberger

771
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: is a guy who to me is the most similar

772
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: When you look early in his career, he had to

773
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: change the way he played. He couldn't keep taking so

774
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: many big hits. He had to step back, and they

775
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: created a new offense under Todd Hailey where everything he

776
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: gets the ball out faster and he still his plays

777
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: where he ad libs. But Ben's a bit different quarterback

778
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: now than he was five years ago. I think Campbell

779
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: figure it out. I don't know if it'll be this year.

780
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: Maybe it'll take getting a new coordinator there. I don't know.

781
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: I think he might know you turn it on him

782
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: again saying it's he You know, he was the great

783
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: whipping boy Greg Rosental for so long and then you

784
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: begrudgingly came around on him, and now that was over, Ron,

785
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: But you had some He had some major Sula issues

786
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: at a time. I did. And and Cam, Cam and

787
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Schula are at the hip. I mean they're kind of

788
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: one one and the same, you know. I'd like to

789
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: just see another another voice in his ear. I think

790
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Cambell bounced back, though. How about another player at the crossroads,

791
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: Greg Well, I'm going to mention another guy that was

792
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: one of the players of the two thousand fifteen season,

793
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: and you just didn't see him the same last year

794
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: he was on the field. But Honey Badger was not

795
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: Honey Badger last year. He was a guy who had

796
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: West couldn't have been more excited about him as as

797
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: a potential defensive Player of the Year in and that

798
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: was legit. There was really no one in the NFL

799
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: quite like him, with all the different things he could do,

800
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: just his innate feel for the game, his competitiveness, his

801
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: instinct and he for the second time was coming off

802
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: in a c L tear and for the second time

803
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: wasn't the same player coming off of it. And he's

804
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: admitted in offseason interviews this year, um essentially how frustrated

805
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: he was. He he said he's more confident now that

806
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't having fun, that he's trying to stay under

807
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: the radar too. He's saying no goals, no expectations. He

808
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: was talking a big game last offseason in terms of

809
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: the goals and all the different things he wanted to do,

810
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: and he even, you know, alluded to the fact that

811
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: he lost a little confidence. I think he's such a

812
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: player that thrives on winning and confidence and attitude that

813
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: he was sort of in a downward spiral last year.

814
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: And I think he's shown us he can be a great,

815
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: great leader and great player for them, and that's what

816
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: they're paying him, Uh, to do. They're paying him big

817
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: time money. That is the biggest X factor to me

818
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: with that entire Cardinals team. I mean, you got the

819
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: offensive line, but you really got Tyron Matthew. If they

820
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: can get the old honey Badger back to where he was,

821
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: that's a different team. Yeah. They're paying him like the

822
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year version, and they gave him

823
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: that contract after the injury. They had to have known,

824
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: considering his history, that there would be some bumps in

825
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: the road in two thousand sixteen, and they had to

826
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: have been gambling on two thousand seventeen and eighteen. And

827
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: people say, you know the reports are positive, and know

828
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: it's the offseason. Reports are positive. He he looks better

829
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: this this offseason, and that that to me. I've been

830
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: kind of big on the Cardinals bouncing back, and that

831
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: would be one of the things that would really really help.

832
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: That would be one of the bigger bummers of the

833
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: last you know, decade of NFL football. Uh if he

834
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: never is able to get back to where he was,

835
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: because he was such a success story and a really

836
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: good guy. It seems like he got his life figured out.

837
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: And I remember around this time last year being at

838
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: the All or Nothing premier and having like a nice

839
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: conversation with him where he just seemed like a nice

840
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: guy and was talking about coming back from the the

841
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: second knee surgery. Uh, and he was very hopeful that

842
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: would be the same guy. And he wasn't hopefully because

843
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: it took him as season last time too was and

844
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: then he was amazing. Hopefully it happens again. All right,

845
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: let's keep going west one more time through maybe or

846
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe a speed round. Oh, let's have some fun. Another

847
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: player at the crossroads, Cronk. This was inspired by an

848
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: episode that I missed a couple of weeks ago, when

849
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: you guys were all talking about Gronk and throughout his

850
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: career there's always been doubt about him overcoming injuries. You know, well, yeah,

851
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: he overcame a back injury, but now it's like five

852
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: arm surgeries. What if he what if that's oranges through? Yeah,

853
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: he overcame the arm surgeries, but now it's an a

854
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: c L. He shredded his knee. Who's gonna be And

855
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: now it's like, oh, he recovered from an a c

856
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: L and arms surgery, but now it's the back again.

857
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: What's every time Gronk gets injured, he comes back even

858
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: better than before. He is a physical freak. We cannot

859
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: treat him like other players. He comes back stronger every time,

860
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he's guaranteed to be better than

861
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: he was before. But I think all the handwringing over

862
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: whether Gronk will ever be you know, we want a

863
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl without him? Will he ever be that important

864
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: to the Patriots again, Well, he's their best player other

865
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: than Brady, So I forget the crossroads you're putting this podcast.

866
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: Whoever was talking, I believe it was me, but but

867
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: it was I. I love Gronk and I as much.

868
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: What do I don't even care. I have no steak,

869
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: I have no I have no what do they call?

870
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: Give me the gambling in the skin of the game.

871
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying someone someone

872
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: should have been here to pun point out that he

873
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: has always come back stronger. No, that is absolutely true.

874
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: I said I have no skin of the game because

875
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: the Jets are basically out of the NFL right now,

876
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter to me if Gronk is amazing

877
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: or terrible uh this season or they've been relegated. Yeah,

878
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: so I have no there's nothing for me to get

879
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: worked up about. All I can say is I really

880
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: have I have doubts now, uh, whether he's gonna be

881
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: able to make it to a full season. But it

882
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: is a crossroads. They did just win a Super Bowl

883
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: without him. They pick up Brandon Cooks, they pick up

884
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen. I mean, you would think Gronks still gonna

885
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 1: be the go to guy, but they're they're gonna spread

886
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: the ball around more than they have probably in his career,

887
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: but partly healthy at practices, fully practicing. That's a rare

888
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 1: thing for Gronk in terms of off season. So as

889
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: a Patriots homer, that's got me optimistic. It's also a

890
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: crossroads because I think you can accurately make the statement

891
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: that nobody has ever played the tight end position at

892
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: a higher level in Gronk for the past half decade.

893
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: But if he doesn't have a productive next five years,

894
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: is he gonna go down as a better player than

895
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez for his career? It is It is wild.

896
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we should move, but it is wild that

897
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: they were still scoring and and you can like if

898
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: they didn't have Gronk The crazy thing is he is

899
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: probably the greatest tight end of all time offensively, you know,

900
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: and yet they could survive without getting points for defense.

901
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: Why I meant, I meant as a pass catcher, but

902
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: then he's also stop myself. Yeah, stopped myself. But it's

903
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: crazy they made that coming without rock Yeah I was.

904
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, and that's why it's so amazing that

905
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: the old zuser over here would uh include this gentleman

906
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: next as a player at the crossroads? Tom Brady, stop

907
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: spend it on your original list? Is this a joke?

908
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: This is a joke. No, it's not. You had three

909
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: different names before I had, much like Cam Newton. He

910
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: is in the middle of his career right now. Let

911
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: me tell you something, and everybody could be all sunshine,

912
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: puppies and rainbows about this crossroads football is just let

913
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: me make my point before you who scientists? Heartless? Scientists?

914
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: Shred it? Uh? Tom Brady coming off a incredible season,

915
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: of course, no gradual decline. Way to go, buddy, but

916
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: he will be forty next year. Now I'm not gonna

917
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: talk about I'm not making any predictions about his play,

918
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what he'd been better, not gradual

919
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: decline this season at all, or hurt or give the

920
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: Patriots any reason to think because Jimmy Garoppolo, it's decision time.

921
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: I don't see why this is even funny. West. Jimmy

922
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: Garoppolo will be a free agent next year if they

923
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: do not do something about this. And they they did

924
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: not trade him, and I'll tell you what that was.

925
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: And you guys don't want to hear this because you

926
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: got the cookbooks and you know you you signed up

927
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: to Giselle's Instagram and you're you're doing your little Tom

928
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: Brady dance all the time. But here's here's the truth.

929
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: The reason they didn't trade him to the Browns for

930
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: fourteen draft picks is because they wanted to wait another

931
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: year and get to see Tom Brady for another year

932
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: and then have that option. So Tom knows this. You

933
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: guys might not know, but Tom knows why Garoppolo is

934
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: still on this team right now, and he better not

935
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: decline or he's gonna find himself playing for the l

936
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: a rams uh sooner than you think that was beautiful.

937
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't even want to respond in any way that

938
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: would take away from that. No, I would now tell

939
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: me why I'm wrong. I'm serious, well, because I'm not

940
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: joking when I say it's I think I know. I

941
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: don't really disagree within the organization here. I don't disagree

942
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: with your points. I was really more thinking there's no

943
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: cross No, there's no crossroads left for Tom Brady because

944
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: he could get hurt or he could play poorly. But

945
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: he's like forty one years old and he's gonna go

946
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: down as the greatest quarterback of all time with his

947
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: five rings, and you're right, he wants to play another

948
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: five years. I just feel like the worst case scenario

949
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: for him is you're saying there's no steaks really for him,

950
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: But that's not true. I'm not saying there's no steaks.

951
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: But to me, he's past the crossroads once you established

952
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: yourself as the greatest player of all time. If he's

953
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: not passed the crossroads, the crossroads comes. The crossroads come

954
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: in different place for all players. Like he's good. I

955
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: feel like that's the take you were summoning up that. Look,

956
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: it is football. They hurt each other, They hit each

957
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: other in every play, every players in pro crossroads every year. No, No,

958
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: I like that, but no, I on it because the

959
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: timing of it. The Garoppolo timing is more of a

960
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: cross road for Jimmy G than Tom Brady. No, because

961
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: he's not even gonna freaking play. He spanged again because

962
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: he's stuck behind the goat. But I'm saying, you're all

963
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: your love letters, You're you're busy as a pen pal.

964
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: You're writing those love letters to Jimmy G. And there's

965
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: a reason. It's because you're in love with his film

966
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: when you what you've seen from him. Don't you think

967
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots are thinking the same thing, and they see

968
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: five years old. They also know that nobody's film is

969
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: better than Tom Brady, So that's not really I mean,

970
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: if I was Bill Belichick and and all I'm worried

971
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: about now at this point in my career is my

972
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: legacy and winning more Super Bowls, why would I trade

973
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo because your quarterback is gonna be forty. I

974
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: think it's like if Tom Brady takes a hit to

975
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: the knee and is out for the year, God forbidden,

976
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: you want the guy who can still win you. I

977
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: think it's obvious they see Garoppolo as a franchise quarterback.

978
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: The top ten type of quarterbacks so they don't want

979
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: to lose. Why why get rid of him unless some

980
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: teams can't pay for him both? I know, no matter

981
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: how Fine, but you wait another year at least see

982
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: what happens. All right, go ahead, maybe they can fix

983
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: Actually before you go, Greg, let's let's take a brief

984
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: moment to talk about the two thousand two Britney Spears

985
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: film Crossroads. Hey, really, since the band news you have

986
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: from me before the pod that you couldn't say? Uh,

987
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: Three childhood best friends and a guy they just met

988
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: take a road trip across the country, finding themselves and

989
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: their friendship in the process, of course, directed by the

990
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: great Tamra Davis and Brittany in her first lead performance West.

991
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts when you walked out of the

992
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: theater back in h I don't I think two was

993
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: during my fifteen years without going into a theater. I

994
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: definitely have never seen Crossing. I don't think if you

995
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: had been going to two movies a week you would

996
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: have ever come across Crossroads anyhow well, Greg, did you

997
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: see it? No? I have not seen cross Room but

998
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: underrated cast. Wait a second, you guys knew that we

999
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: were doing the Crossroads podcast today and didn't watch Crossroads. No,

1000
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: but I did listen to Bone Thugs and Harmony you

1001
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 1: know who? Oh yeah, but that's for another little crossroads. Yeah.

1002
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: We talked about earlier in the show. It's good rep.

1003
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: I like that. I was. How old was I in

1004
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: two thousand two? Like old and hold the whole life?

1005
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: I was not the target target demographic for the Britney

1006
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: Spears vehicle. How about a young, a very young m

1007
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: v P. Your thoughts when you walked out of the theater,

1008
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: h Crossroad? Nine year old m VP to not catch that,

1009
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: one big Britney fan, But I actually did not catch that,

1010
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to go do that okay? And are

1011
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: you were the only one who've seen it? I have

1012
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: not seen it yet, but I could tell you that

1013
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Spears herself described that as a teen movie that deals

1014
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: with real issues that normal teenagers live on a daily basis.

1015
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: And one last note, yes, Justin Long who played one

1016
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: of Lucy's best friends from high school, that's a Britney's character. Potentially.

1017
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: I thought that Crossroads is quote like a road trip

1018
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: buddy movie but for girls. Some big names in this movie.

1019
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: Zoe saw Donna very young. It's written by Shonda Rhymes,

1020
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: who has turned into a mogul big time. And uh,

1021
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: it should be said that Justin Long was also impressed

1022
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: with Britney's work ethic, commenting that she quote could not

1023
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: have been more down to earth. Do you believe that

1024
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: I believe anything I read on I just like this

1025
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: screen capture of a young man playing guitar to her

1026
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: on a white on a bed during the mid and

1027
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: it's like a good flick. Can I offer an anecdote

1028
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: to partner with that story about Britney Britney Spears being

1029
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: sown to earth? We went on a wine tour last

1030
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: weekend while my mom was in town through Malibu and

1031
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: tour guy was telling us that the oldest hint temple

1032
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: in the world is in Malibu and Britney Spears used

1033
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: to take her children there for yoga. It doesn't seem

1034
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: very down to earth to me. Well, well, she's got

1035
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,959
Speaker 1: a woman of means. You've got to take your kids

1036
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: to the oldest tend to do temple in the world

1037
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: for yoga, all right. And the final note on Crossroads,

1038
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: there's another one. An's a mount who played Ben of

1039
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: course in the film, revealed that actor Robert de Niro.

1040
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: Bobby d himself ran a few of Spears's lines with

1041
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: him while rehearsing for the film. Now revealed that de

1042
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: Niro called the singer a quote sweet girl and convinced

1043
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: him to do Crossroads. And that has been the crossroads minute.

1044
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: Back to you, Greg, the crossroads. This is one of

1045
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: the This is one of those things like we sometimes

1046
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: throw around ideas before the show and I actually I'm

1047
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: usually the one that I just sort of come up

1048
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: with things that are will obviously not never be on

1049
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: the show, and you know, people laugh or they don't

1050
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: and we move on. I thought, I was that was

1051
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: what this is. But this was really on the show

1052
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: you you mentioned as a possibility, and immediately I said,

1053
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: that is gold cool mood. By the way, in this movie,

1054
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: we're outside the minute now to bar owner, we're outside

1055
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: the minute. Let's move on to football talk, Greg, come on,

1056
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: keep it about football. Uh, let's talk a little crossroads

1057
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: about a player that I again would have been sure

1058
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: that his career was headed towards Canton on a great franchise,

1059
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: AH Pro Bowls year after year, All Pros, year after year,

1060
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, getting into his mid to late twenties, and

1061
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: then what happened to Clay Matthews. Maybe he's already had

1062
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: his Clay Crossroads year. I don't know, but I feel

1063
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: like it's a little too early to give up on

1064
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews as a big time difference maker. And there's

1065
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: been a lot of blame in terms of how they've

1066
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: used him. They've moved him around to play inside linebacker

1067
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: and and hasn't really been stuck at one position the

1068
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: last couple of years. He's turning thirty this year. Maybe

1069
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: that old Clay Matthews isn't coming back. Maybe he was

1070
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: just kind of, uh, a star that went all out

1071
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: for five or six years and then kind of kind

1072
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: of burned out. That that's surprising to me. I would

1073
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: never would have thought that. I I still would think

1074
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: that the Packers can get a big time difference maker

1075
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: type of season out of Clay Matthews, but we haven't

1076
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: seen it. And and it's especially across road season because

1077
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: I think if he doesn't do it this year, uh,

1078
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: in terms of the salary that he's making, that then

1079
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: he could be an ex Packer next year. I feel

1080
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: like since this podcast started five summers ago, we have

1081
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: repeated every year that this guy used to be a

1082
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: defensive This guy used to be a defensive Player of

1083
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: the Year candidate every year, and now he's not that

1084
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: guy anymore. I feel like we've done that every single

1085
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: year and it's been Are you right? Is that true?

1086
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: It's been a decade since he was at that level.

1087
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he's played in spurts, but he's a guy

1088
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: who's banged up an awful lot. They move him inside

1089
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: and outside. Now he's going back outside apparently. But yeah,

1090
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: he's now thirty years old, and it's like me last

1091
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: year hoping Chris Long would be the guy he was

1092
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: at twenty five. I don't know if you're ever gonna

1093
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: get twenty five year old Clay Matthews again, that's fair.

1094
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: You want to do a couple more quick ones and

1095
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 1: get out of here. A guy who uh sometimes looks

1096
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: like he could be one of the absolute best wide

1097
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: receivers in the league and other times disappears for a

1098
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: months at a time. I'm Arii Cooper, who are you?

1099
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: Are you the guy who can lift the top off

1100
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: a defense take every pass to the house, or you

1101
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: the guy who when Oakland goes into Kansas City and

1102
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: the weather is not perfect. He just don't show up.

1103
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I need to know who a Mari Cooper

1104
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: is at this point. Yeah, and that makes sense because, yeah,

1105
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: if he has a season where he's a little up

1106
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: and down and and disappears, maybe the Raiders that's a

1107
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: result of this. Next year, they think that they got

1108
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: to get a number one wide receiver and then all

1109
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Mari's value isn't the same. Greg's out

1110
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: of his chair again, that penelic down. There are too

1111
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: many long stretches when he's outplayed by Michael Crabtree, and

1112
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: that shouldn't happen. I'll tell you who he's not is

1113
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: a guy that smiles and pick years. Mark Cooper is

1114
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 1: the most serious player in the NFL. I would say

1115
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I will I'll throw out, I'll hit the

1116
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: hat trick on quarterbacks. Andy Dalton. Uh, we've talked about this,

1117
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: so I don't have to dig into it. But I

1118
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: think it's a very real thing with him as well.

1119
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it, At least I did,

1120
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of other people on some

1121
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: level gave him a mulligan for last year because he

1122
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: was so good the year before before he got hurt

1123
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: and then they didn't give him the weapons. Now he's

1124
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: got the weapons him like Eli Manning another similar situation.

1125
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: Got to do something now. Uh, And I know the

1126
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Bengals don't. They don't They're not quick to do anything.

1127
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: So uh, maybe he's not a perfect example. Is just

1128
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: because Cincinnati probably wouldn't eliminate Andy Dalton. But I think

1129
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: the seat would start to get hotter under his butt

1130
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: if he if they struggle again, they go seven to

1131
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: night eight and eight and missed the playoffs, and he

1132
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: has another ho Hume year, He's only had one truly

1133
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: cruising along. He's Andy Dalton, that would be good enough

1134
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: to have a twelve year career with the team. Maybe

1135
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know. I just feel like they

1136
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Cincinnati that they went out of their way

1137
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: to say Andy, now you can be the guy you

1138
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: were in two thousand fifteen. If he's still two thousand

1139
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: sixteen Andy, Uh, maybe he could have some problems. Greg,

1140
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: you my final one, Sammy Watkins. Hopefully I haven't repeated

1141
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: this on this show. Feeling bad about that claim. Matthews, No,

1142
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: you're not the only one who said that about claim.

1143
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: I think we've all said, you're right, it was a

1144
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: good point. Sammy Watkins did not have his contract option

1145
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: picked up by the Bills because they don't necessarily see

1146
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: him as a number one receiver. They want to see

1147
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: what he is. He has a good chance to enter

1148
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: next offseason as one of the top, if not the

1149
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: top player on the Scientists top ninety nine agency rankings

1150
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: for two thousand and eighteen, because it's rare that a

1151
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: guy with this kind of pedigree and who has flash

1152
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: this kind of talent gets the free agency right in

1153
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: the middle of his career. What's the only six years

1154
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: old I've seen plays out of him. I've never been

1155
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: total league convinced that Sammy Watkins is a top ten

1156
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: NFL type of receiver. He's obviously a very good He

1157
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: has a potential to be a very good receiver if

1158
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: he can stay on the field. I don't know. I've

1159
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: never seen quite the AJ Green type of potential out

1160
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: of him, But this would be the year to do it,

1161
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: because if he does it, he's gonna get paid like

1162
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: crazy next year. Yeah. I don't think he's as well

1163
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: rounded as a J. Green. He's more of an inconsistent guy.

1164
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he's good of a route runner, but

1165
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,959
Speaker 1: he was also like when he came into the league,

1166
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: there were some people who thought that he was too

1167
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: much like a running back and not enough like a

1168
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: pure wide receiver. And I think all of the injury

1169
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: part of that physical running back style, right. And is

1170
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: he mature enough? Is he competitive enough? Does he want

1171
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: to be great? He's twenty three years old, he's turning

1172
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: twenty four this month. Actually, he could still be a

1173
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: young guy. He could still be a Hall of Famer.

1174
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: You never know. It is a crossroad year for Sammy Walking.

1175
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: Let's let's cap the crossroad section with one more nugget

1176
01:00:53,080 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: on the film Crossroads. Films that good and it's opening weekend,

1177
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: and it was a modest success financially, ultimately grossing thirty

1178
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: seven million dollars, made its budget back. No Crossroads too

1179
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: on the radar as of now, But you never know. Yeah,

1180
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: I mean, let's calm down a little. That's not a

1181
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: big time hit on Metacritic, by the way, that's pretty

1182
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: not not many movies get lower than that. That's pretty low.

1183
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: That's out of a hundred. But while critics frowned upon

1184
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: cross Roads, it did tell a story to many young girls,

1185
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: like a young Emma who has never seen the movie,

1186
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: that you can you could have a good time. You

1187
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: two can go on a road trip and find yourself

1188
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: along the way, not just the roads and your destination,

1189
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: you know what, because it's not about the destination so

1190
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: much as it is the journey. The journey. It's the journey.

1191
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: And that's what Cross was maybe about you. You've sold

1192
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: me you know what else? She sold me on? I

1193
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: saw Tropic Thunder. Oh all right, that's that takes us

1194
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: out of this great movie my favorite comics. I can't

1195
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: believe I've never seen before. I thought it was one

1196
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: of the best comedies I've ever seen, and now it

1197
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: puts us on a weird sboccas Greg. I have the

1198
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: copy of the The Blu Ray in my desk drawer.

1199
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: I've been trying to give it to Greg for literally

1200
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: six months as an active friendship. Greg basically said, Greg, like,

1201
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: this comedy is one of my favorites ever, and I

1202
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: really think that you would like it to your sensibilities

1203
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: would be a great match. And what do you think

1204
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: it says for that to be just sitting in my desk.

1205
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: So I think Greg's sensibilities would be a perfect match

1206
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: for whatever. Greg, when you get a chance, I'll watch it. Well.

1207
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: I did take it from you for a while, but

1208
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: then I realized I wasn't. It was during the season,

1209
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: so I gave it. I even lift. I even lifted

1210
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: by Ben Stiller band, for he plays the save jerk

1211
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: in every movie. Oh, I messed this up. I messed

1212
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: that up. I can never do any Greenberg's slept on

1213
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: a little mini classic there. You have been talking about

1214
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: Greenberg for years. That was and like the Tropic Thunder

1215
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: was still his passion project. So you gotta give a

1216
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: lot of credit for that. I think he kind of

1217
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: that was the beginning of the end. But we'll save

1218
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: this for the bench Stiller podcast. Gregg, we ran out

1219
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: of time to talk about your running with a famous

1220
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: athletes wife, But don't worry. We will get to it

1221
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday's show. I was worried. You thought you

1222
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: were gonna get away with it, and we're going to

1223
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: talk about they want to jam that in there. We

1224
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: will talk about it because it is. It does deserve

1225
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: Uh sometime, Emma, that's it, but that's up to you.

1226
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: Really wait wait night yet, I mean, that's it. For us,

1227
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: you joining us for two shows. I think Sully's back. Uh,

1228
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: but you know, does it have to be it? I

1229
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I guess we'll find out. See who's

1230
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: here Wednesday, Yeah, we'll see. So. Like on the list

1231
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 1: of people that will get annoyed if they here this show,

1232
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: Damna Check would would rank high, certainly you wooing his producer,

1233
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: and I think Sully it might rank even higher. M

1234
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: Sully understands that he's he's a busy man and he's

1235
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 1: working with the move to sticks people and a note

1236
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: to the listeners. Uh, Sully understands these part time help

1237
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: listeners snitches get stitches. I don't want a hundred people

1238
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: adding damascheck about this little conversation we've had that's an

1239
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: invitation for them to do it. We're just we're just

1240
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: having a There was no for Hey, did anybody hear

1241
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: a formal offer to Emma? No, that's what's so great

1242
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: about it. Simply friends talking between a pane of glass. Right,

1243
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. Okay, Now, now it's not

1244
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: to think that we're covering our bases there. Stan Hansons

1245
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: signing off for the Mailman, the Boss and Emma VP.

1246
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: What a great name behind the glass, so as day

1247
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: m