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Speaker 1: You're listening to Draftings Network.

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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annik and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love them.

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Speaker 4: I can't get.

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Speaker 5: Enough of him.

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Speaker 3: I hear that both fine.

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Speaker 6: Big job there, Cooktufian break fern Rock.

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Speaker 5: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved bull.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: That's song, Well, to what extent did you miss us?

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Speaker 1: Be honest with yourselves, Be honest with us. It's great

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Speaker 1: to be back in your collective. Live Sunday, October first,

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Speaker 1: twoenty twenty three. It is episode four thirty nine of

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Speaker 1: the Anakin Florian Podcast presented by DraftKings. We are on

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Speaker 1: the DraftKings Network on the DraftKings YouTube channel. Clips, of

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Speaker 1: course still can be accessed on Instagram and on the

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Speaker 1: Anakmploran podcas YouTube channel. More importantly, we only have two

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Speaker 1: by weeks a year. We just had one of them.

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Speaker 1: Good to see your shining face. You look refresh, you

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Speaker 1: look like you have some color. How we doing?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing well, man?

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 6: It's good to be back. It's always weird when we

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Speaker 6: have a week off. I'm like, what am I doing here?

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Speaker 1: Our producer Cody Merrow was asking me if I enjoyed it,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if enjoy is the right verb.

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Speaker 1: It felt like something was missing. And I am a

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Speaker 1: creature of habit as many of us are, and I

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Speaker 1: like my routine. And so even though I had the

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Speaker 1: NFL podcast Annik Squared, which we're very thankful is also

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Speaker 1: here on the DraftKings YouTube channel, just felt vacant and

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Speaker 1: absent and empty without the Anakin Flooring podcast. And oftentimes

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Speaker 1: when we take a week off, and this one, which

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Speaker 1: had been scheduled for months, was in line with the

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Speaker 1: UFC's Dark Week. Of course, no sooner do we have

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Speaker 1: a dark week than all of a sudden, all these

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Speaker 1: fight announcements come down the pike. So I want to

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Speaker 1: get into some of that stuff. So the PFL had

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Speaker 1: a broadcast in Europe over the weekend. No ken Flow, though,

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Speaker 1: we get fucking Sean o'callen, we get Dan Hardy, No Kenflow.

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Speaker 6: Huh. Apparently I'm not European enough. Need to be more

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Speaker 6: European and then maybe I could do. Yeah, I had

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Speaker 6: it off. Yeah, Shahn and Dan were on the call though.

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Speaker 6: Saw a nice knockout there from Cedric and yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love how when everybody gets excited about a guy

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Speaker 1: like Cedric kenflow is the slow your role police who

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Speaker 1: just comes in and at least in our group chat. Though,

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Speaker 1: I know you're excited about this guy as the PFL is,

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Speaker 1: but you're not necessarily ready to crown him a world

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I always like to take a slower approach,

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Speaker 6: especially guys who come from striking backgrounds, like, hey, let's

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Speaker 6: see where the grappling's at. Let's see where you know

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Speaker 6: they're striking for MMA is at. Let's put it all

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Speaker 6: together first, have that slow progression. That's always the best

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Speaker 6: way to go, I think. And you don't want to

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Speaker 6: find out during an early fight that you didn't have

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Speaker 6: the grappling skills to get to that next level. So

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he's working on that stuff, but yes, take

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Speaker 6: it slow, right.

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Speaker 1: A diamond would probably advise as such as well. So

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Speaker 1: Sean O'Connell's not necessarily what European is he an Irish guy.

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Speaker 6: That's a good point. He's pretty white coat. He's the

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Speaker 6: only lead commentator we have, you know, he's the only

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Speaker 6: play by play guy we got.

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Speaker 1: Now, Canelo Alvarez had a big win about twelve hours ago.

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Speaker 6: I kind of saw it going that way. Canelo is

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Speaker 6: some of the some of the advice in the corner,

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Speaker 6: and Charlo's coach really wasn't giving him so much advice.

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Speaker 6: out there, and Canelo was just be it Canelo out there, man, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: A lot of sharp handicappers fancied Charlow alive underdog. There

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Speaker 1: it finally materialized and gets essentially white Washington didn't really

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Speaker 6: Yeah. No, I think that's accurate. Man, He didn't let

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Speaker 6: I think he was there to not take so not

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Speaker 6: I agree, man, he just didn't offensively provide enough of

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Speaker 1: I'm going off on a little bit of an aside here,

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Speaker 1: and we came across the name Kenny Florian. So you

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Speaker 6: I did not know. I never broke my hands. I

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Speaker 6: I used to hit. I used to like hook more

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Speaker 1: You got pretty big hands, he got pretty big knuckles.

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking that your hands might hold up.

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Speaker 1: might be game bread show. Maybe it's bare knuckle mixed

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Speaker 1: All right, So a few things I would like to

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Speaker 1: get some thoughts on some of the outstanding performances Bryce Mitchell, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Marina Hadriguez, Mattows, Gamrock getting a win over an injured

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Speaker 1: Raphael Fhazib. But finally we have a fight Leon Edwards

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Speaker 1: Colby Covington for the UFC Welterweight Championship. It is going

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Speaker 1: to be December sixteenth.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Leon Edwards successfully defended the belt the first time against

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Speaker 1: Kamar Usman back in March in London. Seemingly he has

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Speaker 1: it in fact, will be Colby Covington with a Las

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the UFC ended up putting it together. You know,

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Speaker 6: That is the big problem with Covington is he is

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Speaker 6: So I think it's a very interesting fight and it's

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Speaker 6: how good is this Leon Edwards? Is he really as

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Speaker 6: But when you have a guy like Covington, who forces

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Speaker 6: I think it's a very interesting matchup because of it.

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Speaker 1: Beautifully, Don you made the transition for me a huge

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Speaker 1: opportunity for a legacy advancing win for Leon Edwards, who

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Speaker 1: right now isn't necessarily classified as one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: welterweights of all time, despite the fact that he hasn't

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Speaker 1: But if Leon Edwards can stack a win over Kobe

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Speaker 1: I really think it's a huge, huge tunity legacy wise

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Speaker 1: for Leon Edwards. Live odds on DraftKings Sportsbook can flow

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Speaker 1: any idea. Who's favored in that fight? December sixteenth at UFC.

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Speaker 6: What is it?

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Speaker 1: Two ninety six Leon Edwards, Helby Covington Edwards.

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Speaker 6: Uh, two to one, maybe a little less than two

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Speaker 1: Less than that. Yeah, you're pretty much all over it.

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Speaker 1: Leon Edwards minus one thirty five Colby Covington is plus

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Speaker 6: Interesting. Yeah, yeah, very interesting. I could see that.

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Speaker 1: I could see why, you know, Blao Muhammad factors in

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Speaker 1: this equation as well. Friend of the program obviously, dear

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Speaker 1: friend of my twin brother has a shoulder program on

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Speaker 1: the Anakin Florian podcast YouTube channel. I think this is

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Speaker 1: bittersweet for him. He's happy that the division is moving forward.

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Speaker 1: But Dana White said after Dana White's Contender series last

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Speaker 1: week that he has a fight for Blow Muhammad, and

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Speaker 1: is the fight they would like to put together. Those

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Speaker 1: those are luke warm at best and terms of that fight,

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Speaker 1: and it's tough, right the fight business is very very difficult,

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Speaker 1: and Blao sort of intimated on social media, like you know,

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Speaker 1: he was guaranteed a title fight if he stepped up

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Speaker 1: on short notice to fight Gilbert Burns back in May.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean listen with MMA and everything that can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my first thob mirrors yours. It's nice that Paddy

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Speaker 1: Hoska will be back against Alex Padata for the UFC

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Speaker 1: Light Heavyweight Championship. So Jamal Hill is the champion right

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Speaker 1: Right now, Ken Flow, Alex Paeda is the slight betting

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Speaker 6: Very very interesting. Man, That fight's going going to be nuts. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Last thing before we get to some of the UFC

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Speaker 1: John Jones is minus three ninety five on DraftKings Sportsbook.

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Speaker 1: Right now againstevepe A Miachich, who is plus three ten.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck am I missing? It's not though John

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Speaker 1: Right I'm not sitting here suggesting that John Jones's win

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Speaker 1: Steve A. Micich's name where the mixed martial arts better

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Speaker 6: Yeah? No, I think that's right. Listen, John Jones should

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Speaker 1: Oh, you can be sure the ment mma giant that

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Speaker 1: arts can be problematic. I know for you, you had

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Speaker 1: five units on Raphaelphazive and just sort of speaks to

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Speaker 1: your year. I think handicapping, just none of the bounces

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Speaker 1: going your way. But what did you make of this

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Speaker 1: main event? And ultimately what do you now make of

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Speaker 1: this result moving forward?

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Speaker 6: I hated it, John, I hated everything about it. This

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Speaker 6: sport is just insane, you know, listen. I think that

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Speaker 6: I was still waiting for that fight to kind of materialize.

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Speaker 6: It was kind of a lot of like tag from

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Speaker 6: the outside, and you know, certainly Physique was respecting the

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Speaker 6: grappling skills of Gamron, was doing his best to try

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Speaker 6: to stay on the outside. Gamro would you know, shoot

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Speaker 6: a shot here and there, and I thought Physique was

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Speaker 6: looking good. The problem is, I think that Physique was

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Speaker 6: solving some of those grap exchanges with his physicality as

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Speaker 6: opposed to his fundamental wrestling defense skills right like using

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Speaker 6: his body in the proper manner. I think he was

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Speaker 6: trying to weasel his legs legs out of some of

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Speaker 6: those situations, and Gamrot, with that vice like grip and control,

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Speaker 6: I think messed up his knee as he was trying

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Speaker 6: to limp leg out of some of those holes. And

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Speaker 6: I think because of that he blew his knee out

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Speaker 6: or did sup into it anyway. And when he threw

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Speaker 6: that kick at the very end, the planting leg just

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Speaker 6: didn't seem like his foot was placed in the right

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Speaker 6: spot and it just failed. And there's so much that

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Speaker 6: can go wrong in a mixed martial arts fight, and

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Speaker 6: it all kind of went wrong for physique, unfortunately, and

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Speaker 6: that's what makes the sport so damn tough to gamble

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Speaker 6: on and so hard to predict. So unfortunately, it wasn't

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Speaker 6: the fight that I had hoped for, even for me.

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Speaker 6: I thought we were going to get a lot more action.

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Speaker 6: I thought they were going to exchange a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: I think things. I think we're starting to heat up

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Speaker 6: a little bit, and just as they were, I think

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Speaker 6: that injury happened, and unfortunately, first the zve he had

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Speaker 6: to bow out.

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Speaker 1: Raphael Fhazive historically is durable, but for me, as an

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Speaker 1: MMA handicapper, as an MMA fan, survival of the fittest

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Speaker 1: right like durability is a big part of the game.

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Speaker 1: Every time I handicap a Shan O'Malley fight, I begin

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Speaker 1: with the durability that plagued him and the Andre Sukim

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Speaker 1: Tod fight. It plagued him in the Cheeto Vera fight.

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Speaker 1: It could have plagued him in the al Jemine Sterling fight.

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Speaker 1: Were led to believe that if al Jo got a

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Speaker 1: singular takedown, that Sean O'Malley's rib cartilage issue was such

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Speaker 1: that that fight would have been over right there. So

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Speaker 1: I think the only thing while other than just a

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Speaker 1: gauntlet of a bandamweight division of killers, the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: holding Sean O'Malley back, I think from myriad title defenses

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Speaker 1: is just championship training camp upon championship training camp, and

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Speaker 1: the requisite health and durability needed to get through those

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Speaker 1: camps and through those fights. Look at yeah, you're Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: against Brian Ortega and Dan Hooker too. I did a

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Speaker 1: Q and A with Dan Hooker and Sydney recently, right,

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Speaker 1: and he was talked about that. He was talking about

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Speaker 1: that Jalen Turner headkick, right, And oftentimes they say it's

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Speaker 1: the shots that you don't see that can cuss you

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Speaker 1: or really kill you. But Hooker saw it coming, but

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Speaker 1: his right arm was broken, so when his mind was

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Speaker 1: telling his right arm to elevate, his right arm wouldn't

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Speaker 1: go up because the thing was fractured. But he's so

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Speaker 1: goddamn tough that he still won the fight. I just

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Speaker 1: think durability's part of the game. And Mattaje Gamrod, I

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Speaker 1: guess is my overreaching, long winded point shouldn't be penalized.

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Speaker 1: You know, still went in there, still prepared for Phazeve

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Speaker 1: and beat Phyz, But unfortunately this doesn't necessarily do much

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Speaker 1: for him moving forward because of the nature of the

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Speaker 1: way this one ended, Bryce Mitchell can flow over Dan Egay.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the jury is still out from some

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Speaker 1: people as to just how elite Bryce Mitchell may be.

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Speaker 1: And I thought this was a really nice win for him,

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Speaker 1: having to deal with the adversity with the eye to

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Speaker 1: fight a five tool perennial contender type in Dan Egay.

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Speaker 1: And I know Bryce Mitchell took some issue with Brian

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Speaker 1: Petrie's handicap on our show a few weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: I think some of Petrie's criticism was just that he

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Speaker 1: wasn't sure that Bryce Mitchell was on that elite level

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Speaker 1: and anybody looking for him to pass a big test

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Speaker 1: after the Iliotopodia fight. He passed at Ken Flow and

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Speaker 1: I think Bryce Mitchell might find himself in the title

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Speaker 1: fight at some point in time. What were your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on him winning by unanimous decision over Danny Gay and

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Speaker 1: the comin event.

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Speaker 6: I think this fight said a lot for me, you know,

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Speaker 6: I think it proved a lot, you know, coming off

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Speaker 6: of that loss against Suporia, I was curious to see

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Speaker 6: how he was going to come back against a true

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Speaker 6: veteran and tough dude in Danny Egay, and he found

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Speaker 6: a way to get it done.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: You know, this guy mentally physically is extremely tough, and

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Speaker 6: he did what he had to do to get the win.

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Speaker 6: And there was some tough spots for him, and the

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Speaker 6: fact that he was able to survive through that, I

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Speaker 6: think says a lot about his character and how much

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Speaker 6: he still loves this game and how much he still

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Speaker 6: loves the fight game. So I thought it was solid.

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Speaker 6: Ega is not an easy guy to get through, and yeah,

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Speaker 6: solid win for Bryce.

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Speaker 5: Men.

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Speaker 1: And I think this one has to feel really good

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Speaker 1: because even though Bryce Mitchell was the favorite, and even

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Speaker 1: though you saw Danny Gay go from plus one forty

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Speaker 1: to plus one seventy, there were a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who were steaming Danny Gay. And I think this is

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Speaker 1: a really nice test for Bryce Mitchell. Thug Nasty two

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Speaker 1: have passed and hopefully you enjoyed us sharing some of

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Speaker 1: his hip hop a couple of weeks ago. All Right,

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Speaker 1: one other thing that I just wanted to mention on

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Speaker 1: this UFC Fight night, how about Timmy means business? Right?

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Speaker 1: This dude was fighting on Fuel TV back in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be forty at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: Wins the Fight of the night against Andre Fialio. He

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Speaker 1: wins it by TKO in round three. Congratulate Timmy fucking

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Speaker 1: means business on the fifty K man. I just I

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Speaker 1: just like fathers. I like Tim means the no nonsense

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Speaker 1: Timmy means still getting it. Don oh, Cody's telling me

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Speaker 1: he's thirty nine February twenty at nineteen eighty four. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Tim means the Ken Flow generation a

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Speaker 1: little bit, you know it?

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Speaker 6: Dirty dirty bird.

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right. Plenty more coming up on this

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Speaker 1: very program. Brian Petrie in about half an hour will

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Speaker 1: help take us through UFC Fight Night predictions for Dawson

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Speaker 1: versus Green. We are also scheduled to be joined by

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Speaker 1: the headlining athlete, Grant Dawson, coming up here shortly. Now though,

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Speaker 1: it is time for the start of the program. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to the Ray Longum.

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Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray LONGO minutes.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna fin's a hole in this subs.

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Speaker 2: That's the Ray Long minute s. John Nnik and Kenny

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Speaker 2: Florian podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's easy like Sunday Morning with Ray Long go back

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Speaker 1: in your life.

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Speaker 3: Morning, pale line a lanic, very.

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Speaker 1: Nice, Lionel, I don't get is that.

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Speaker 3: Lionel RICHI easy like Sunday Morning.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that that was the artist. Is it

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Speaker 1: Lionel Richie?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I don't think that that's the artist.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right now and look it up. That

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Speaker 1: wow me? Oh god, it could be the Comed' easy

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Speaker 1: like Sunday Morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, baby, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, so what are the odds? Cody maybe can chase it.

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Speaker 6: I don't have time. I got the.

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Speaker 3: Was one of the Corvidors.

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Speaker 1: You're right, go on, I should never question you. Most

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Speaker 1: of us when we hear that song, we think about

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You are not thinking about the NFL on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: What are the odds though, that you and I would

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Speaker 1: be wearing each other's merchandise?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it this big, but Ray, this is the

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Speaker 1: big reveal. This is the big reveal. The shirt that

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing right now you can't even get yet. We

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Speaker 1: are unveiling today on the Anti Emploring Podcast. Our brand

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Speaker 1: new design for the Ray Long Go Minute Anti Employee

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Speaker 1: Podcast presents.

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Speaker 6: You see it, You.

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Speaker 1: See it, you see it, you see it, zoom in

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Speaker 1: on it. I can't see zoom and it says Ray

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Speaker 1: Long a minute, and then and then at the bottom

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Speaker 1: it says, I want you to punch a hole in

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Speaker 1: his fucking chest. You see that?

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Speaker 6: You see that?

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Speaker 3: Right? Let's sticky? Oh is that?

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Speaker 5: Look at that cartoon character? So big stuff Today we'll

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Speaker 5: break in a lot of news Kenny.

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Speaker 1: We will sell more of this design than probably any

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Speaker 1: one other than maybe the Kenny floor and Wolverine design,

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Speaker 1: which is just electric. All right, Ray, it's great to

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Speaker 1: see you. You look like you just rolled out of bed.

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Speaker 1: I like the scruff. Yes, you're drinking cold brew right now?

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Speaker 1: Where's the col brew?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: I believe it's not in the shutter? It is there,

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Speaker 1: it is. You're put any sugar, any sweetener in that

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Speaker 1: cold brewer? Do you just chug it down?

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Speaker 6: Black ring?

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Speaker 1: And if somebody go get that for you at Starbucks

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Speaker 1: today or is that a cut from a previous day?

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Speaker 3: Uh no, my wife got that from me yesterday.

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Speaker 1: All right, right, So, and but that it's fresh coal

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Speaker 1: brew in there. Right, you're just using John Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: all right. So we spoke last Thursday and it was

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Speaker 1: great to hear you, and it seems like you're doctors

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Speaker 1: believe that you're ahead of schedule when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the hip recovery, but you don't necessarily buy that. So

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Let our listeners know, No.

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Speaker 3: I feel I feel great.

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Speaker 5: I just you know, I just can't do the things

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Speaker 5: I want to do yet, but I feel really good,

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Speaker 5: really really good.

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Speaker 1: It's helped the show in part because you're right there

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Speaker 1: on the screws every time your schedule. We can really

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Speaker 1: count on you. But so it turns out like what

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Speaker 1: you're missing?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: How confident are you that Saturday, November eleventh you got

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Speaker 1: three guys at Madison Square Garden that you're going to

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Speaker 1: be able to make that walk so to speak. We're

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Speaker 1: only about six weeks out.

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Speaker 3: Very confident.

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Speaker 1: I'll get out short winded, Kenny, Do you have anything

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Speaker 1: for Ray today?

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Speaker 3: Kenny? Kenny help?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Kenny helped me because this is really going to

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Speaker 5: be the minute, very comfortable. Well right, well, like forty

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Speaker 5: five seconds we got nothing yet.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I want to know, how do you get three

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Speaker 6: guys on the same card. You know, how does that

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Speaker 6: get put together? Because first of all, you know, there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of things that go into it. How does

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Speaker 6: that happen? Is Ray making phone calls? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I know, So when you have a champ that was

652
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 5: as much liked as al Jamine Sterling, I mean, it's

653
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: happened for you.

654
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes sense to you guys.

655
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So you and I were talking last week

656
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: about some of these guys, Dennis Bozukia Nauseum, Sodokov, Matt Ravola,

657
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: and certainly there are some athletes that maybe don't want

658
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: to compete in New York because of the tax ramifications,

659
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: but most athletes desire to make a walk at Madison

660
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: Square Garden. I mean, it's the mecca, right, And that's

661
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: coming from a Bostonian that doesn't want to give that

662
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: building it's due credit. So, but I gotta think these

663
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: guys sell tickets too, right, Yeah.

664
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well Bazooka huge tick.

665
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 5: I'd say all three of those guys pretty good tickets

666
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 5: of Bazooka was always top.

667
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: Of the food chain.

668
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 5: He he's good for three or four hundred people, which

669
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 5: that's a lot of people. Yeah, you know, people could

670
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 5: tell you again, a thousand people come see me, you

671
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 5: get six people, you know what I mean? So this

672
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 5: is this is this is big and as far as

673
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 5: the Garden goes, you know, growing up in New York

674
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: with all the iconic fights that have been at the Garden,

675
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 5: and it's always that everybody's dream to fight the Garden.

676
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: That was the beauty of the Golden Glugs. They would

677
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 5: be the finals would be hosted at the Garden, and

678
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 5: that was a huge thing growing up, especially back in

679
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: the day. You know, like if you fought at the Garden,

680
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 5: that was that was considered a like you made it

681
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: so uh, you know you get to carry those uh

682
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: that part of your your life with you for the

683
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 5: rest of your life, which is which is fantastic.

684
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: So Matt Fravola could very well kick off the paper

685
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: Viu Maine card in his fighting and was son denis

686
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: crazy crazy fight Now, certainly there has been a lot

687
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: of love for Ben. Was Antony here on the Ankan

688
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: floor in podcast. Matt Frovola and his father Sal have

689
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: been on the show multiple times, but we were trying

690
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: to brand this new nickname for Ben was Antony seek

691
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: and destroy, putting over this athlete. And then of course

692
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: he gets Matt Fravola in his first fight against ranked opposition.

693
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: So here we go.

694
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: I think, I think this is it's got to be

695
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: a Bondburder. It just has to be.

696
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I.

697
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: Can't, Kenny, I can't.

698
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 5: I can't see this fight going any other way. And

699
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I think they're made for each other,

700
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And I you know, even

701
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 5: like Tolkien, with for Vola, I don't think there's anything

702
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 5: I could do that's going to change what he's going

703
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 5: to do in this.

704
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: I think that's what I heard when he sent me

705
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: the name.

706
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 5: I go, oh my god, this is this is a fight.

707
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 5: I get it, this is this is a good fight,

708
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So, uh, I I do

709
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: think for Vola's matches up great with him, I really do.

710
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 5: And I know we were just compliment and the shit

711
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 5: out of him two weeks ago, but.

712
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 6: Ah, I don't know.

713
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: He's got another He's got another guy.

714
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 5: Just as crazy as he he is. So I think

715
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 5: it should make for a fun fight.

716
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 6: Wouldn't you say? This is kind of good timing coming

717
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 6: off of that Drew Dober fight. Who's kind of cut

718
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 6: from that same cloth and has a similar style where

719
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 6: they're going to go forward. Do you think that helps

720
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 6: him coming off of that last one?

721
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

722
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 5: Plus Dobo was a South force, so even better, you

723
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So you get you know, the aggression,

724
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: and you get the aggression coming from the south forest side,

725
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 5: which you know for Vola, I think he's fought a

726
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 5: bunch of South boys now starting to really you know,

727
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 5: get the hang of, you know, some of the angles

728
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: and creating openings that he has to do.

729
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: But I don't even see that, you know.

730
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: I think one guy's coming forward and the other guy's

731
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 5: coming forward.

732
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: And first is with the mostest, is the bestest. Let's

733
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 3: see go first, you know what I mean?

734
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I have a lot of martial arts items

735
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: to discuss with you today because seemingly you don't want

736
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: to give our audience much on your hip, which is fine,

737
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: right and I'm really not well No, So you and

738
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: I spoke on Thursday and you offered up Yeah, you know,

739
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: they want me to use the cane, but I'm fine

740
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: without it, right, Like our listenership cares about you, and

741
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: hopefully I'm not kissing off the minute men. And by

742
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: the way, shout out to the guy who reached into

743
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: my DMS and told me he's a former minute man.

744
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: We fucking love it. But I'm not like trying to

745
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: catch you on your hit, right, I just want you

746
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: to let people know, like just give them an update

747
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, like you might be in pain November eleventh,

748
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: but you're going to be there, come hell or high

749
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: water November eleventh, the Madison Square Garden or maybe you're

750
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: not going to be there, like but.

751
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I'm going to be there, come hell

752
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: of high water. I mean that's that. Basically, I'm trading

753
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: for a fight too. I'm trying to make it to

754
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: the fight. But what are you doing?

755
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: Look, it was it was, Yeah, I'm going to Pete

756
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 5: twice a week than I do the PT at my

757
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 5: house every day. There's nothing really much I you know,

758
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: I could do every day. I mean I could go

759
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: to the gym.

760
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: I've been going to the gym now, you know.

761
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 5: But I got to sit down and you know, it's

762
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 5: more you know verbal, you know, talking and just watching

763
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 5: people's fall. Like right after this, I'm jumping in the

764
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 5: car and going to you know, for bowl. Is sparring

765
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 5: nas at twelve thirty. So I'm going to head out

766
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 5: of here right after this. So it's like again, if

767
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 5: you were in office work, I'd be back to work already.

768
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: It's just for what I do. It's a slower process.

769
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: That was the only thing. Like, it is no pain

770
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: right now while I'm talking.

771
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 5: You know, obviously I could get around with the cane

772
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 5: better than I ever could.

773
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: There's no pain that way, and I can get around

774
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: without the cane.

775
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 5: But after I realized that I wasn't going to be

776
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 5: back in the gym holding mits in three weeks, I

777
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 5: just aque as to whatever the doctors, you know, like,

778
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: let's just I was.

779
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: Under the wrong impression. I thought i'd be back quick.

780
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you feel great, and it's a different feeling.

781
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 5: You know, you kind of exchange one pain for the other.

782
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: But all in all, you know, they have the operation

783
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 5: down to a science and everything feels good. It's just,

784
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 5: you know, can I go on the mat and hold

785
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 5: mits and start running around now?

786
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 3: I still got to wait a couple of weeks.

787
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 5: And that's for me. It's frustrated. This is an isolated case.

788
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 5: That's why I said I don't want to you know,

789
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 5: screw anybody up. But I mean the first two weeks,

790
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 5: you're not doing shit with this thing. Two or three weeks,

791
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 5: you know, So it was just it was, you know,

792
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 5: all the stories. I'll give you an example is Kenny,

793
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 5: see if this makes sense. So I'm my wife's at

794
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 5: the gym with yesterday and she she's talking to Dylan

795
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: Montello and she's like, oh, Dylan's father had the other

796
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 5: hip done three months after the first one. So I'm

797
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: sitting I'm watching somebody turn around and go, Dylan three months.

798
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 3: He goes, oh, you know, it was more like a year.

799
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: So it didn't even go from like three months to

800
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: four months or five. It went from three months to

801
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: a year. This is what I'm dealing with though. So

802
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: the information I got from.

803
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: Everybody going into this thing would be like, you know,

804
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: three weeks, three weeks from the operation, you're like, you know,

805
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 5: you're playing basketball, you're running around, and that definitely didn't happen.

806
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: So I had kind of like a breakdown.

807
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 5: But now I'm mom in tune with everything and I'm

808
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 5: accepting it for what it is, and I'm sure at

809
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: the end of the day it's going to be great.

810
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: If that's a lot. You know, whether it's six months

811
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: from now and you say you're one hundred percent, and

812
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: whether it's a limp or a pimp cane, whatever it is,

813
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: long as going to be there.

814
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: For Yeah, I'm I'm there. I'm there with the canea

815
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 5: without the cane. Now, everybody wants everybody wants me to

816
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 5: get a good cane.

817
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: They like the cane. I don't know. I don't know

818
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 3: what I'm doing, Kenny. I don't know what I'm dealing

819
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: with anymore.

820
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 6: But you got to get one of those sort canes

821
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 6: or one that like breaks into nutchuck. So you just yeah, yeah, rah.

822
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: I love it.

823
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will have the I actually have the cane

824
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 5: that I think becomes a sword, so we could use

825
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 5: that one.

826
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: But uh, I'm going to end up like who was

827
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: the guy in the w W e Beck in the day,

828
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: the Grand Wizard. Didn't he have a cane? Aren't you

829
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: guys wrestling fans?

830
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Holy Crow Lord's a flatbush anything in there. The

831
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 5: Grand Wizard, Holy Crow Cody helped me out throw me

832
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 5: a lifelong.

833
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: I watched the NFL. I can't help you with the WWE. Sorry,

834
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: all right, let me get to some of these mixed

835
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: martial arts items if I could. I think Kenflow's maybe

836
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: trying to google something. There you go, great, So a

837
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: few other things I have for you today. So John

838
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: Jones will be the headlining act at this UFC two

839
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: ninety five event. This has got to be the hardest,

840
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: hottest ticket in UFC history, right like it just is

841
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: turning the calendar to October. We are six weeks out

842
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: and I have been inundated with requests for tickets to

843
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden. Wow, there are seats on the floor

844
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: reportally that are like six figures. Right, Like, Madison Square

845
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: Garden has always been a tough ticket, but the UFC

846
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: Live event has never been a hotter commodity than it

847
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: is right now in twenty twenty three. It is comedy,

848
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: right like our guy Ronnie Pellegrino, who's gonna put us

849
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: all up for the World MMA Awards in December. Like

850
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: this dude can't get in the building. He's pretty fucking connected.

851
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: Just kidding on.

852
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: We do big model be in the building. But so

853
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: John Jones ray is prohibitively, prohibitively favored. I would say

854
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: to beat step A Miatchich he's minus three to eighty.

855
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Step A is plus three ten. Does that widespread surprise

856
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: you at all?

857
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 6: Uh?

858
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 5: It surprises me a little bit. I think it's worth

859
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 5: putting money on step A for that price.

860
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: Well, what are your expectations for Stepe against John?

861
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean the biggest expectation would be that

862
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 5: he defends, you know, the takedowns, which I think he'll

863
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 5: be able to do, and he'll be he'll be able

864
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 5: to you know, outbox him on his feet.

865
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: I mean that's you know, I don't know John.

866
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 5: Jones the last fight, as great as it was and

867
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 5: as easy as it was, you know, didn't give him

868
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 5: any ring time in there. So he's still dealing with,

869
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: you know, having to get into a war at this

870
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 5: stage of the game, which I think, you know, the

871
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 5: problem is Stepe's getting old to us. So I don't

872
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 5: really haven't seen Steve A. I don't know, but uh,

873
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 5: that would be the problem to me is that way

874
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 5: it becomes a stand up fight. Steve A's got the

875
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 5: height that always gave John Jones problems like with Augustuson's fight,

876
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 5: and I think Steve A's vetted than Gupherson and that respect,

877
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 5: that just like again, I don't know what the age

878
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 5: has taking its toll on him. He looks like he's

879
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 5: in great shape. Definitely a big dude, and I think

880
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 5: those are the guys that give John problems.

881
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: We had Brendan Shaub on our NFL An a Square

882
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: podcast last week and he ran into John Jones recently

883
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: and he said he is in supremely good shape and

884
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: he maybe has never seen him in that type of shape.

885
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: So that bodes well for John. But I do think

886
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: there's always more variables leading up to a John Jones

887
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: fight on the John side than there are going to

888
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: be on the opponent's side, and that again is the

889
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: case here. So I expect Steve a to be motivated.

890
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't turn back the clock. He's not

891
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: fucking Benjamin Button. But plus three ten I saw this morning.

892
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: I felt like we needed to talk about that, all right.

893
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: Mike Valley Outstanding Striking Coach, VFS Academy, out Standing Human Being,

894
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: Outstanding over all MMA coach, head coach of Balah Muhammad.

895
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: He was on the UFC Unfiltered podcast I Believe with

896
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: your friend Matt Sarah, and he talked about coaching guys

897
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: in terms of when they get hit hard, sort of

898
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: the whole poker face mentality, and how to sort of

899
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: not reflect to the judges that you are compromised. I

900
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: wanted to ask both of you guys this, but I

901
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: want to start with you, Ray. How much time have

902
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: you talked to your athletes over the years about this

903
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: very situation and if you do get cracked trying to

904
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: stay composed not just physically and mentally, but aesthetically as

905
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: well in that moment.

906
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: I mean we talk about it, and we trained for it.

907
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 5: I mean I do one of the drills I love

908
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 5: for these guys, and I do it during the boxing

909
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: cliss a lot. I'll have one guy spin the other

910
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 5: guy around like ten or fifteen times to where he's

911
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: dizzy and he can barely get his and then he's

912
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 5: got to defend himself.

913
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: He's got to get to the clinch, and.

914
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 5: He's got to survive hack while he's kind of rocked.

915
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: It gives you a similar feeling to when you get

916
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 5: punched in your equilibrium go. So we definitely address it,

917
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, some guys are going to be

918
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 5: better at it than others, but uh yeah, I one

919
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 5: hundred percent address it. That's a big, big, big part

920
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 5: of the fight if it happens.

921
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: Ken flow, I know your dad's a thoracic surgeon. You

922
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: ever do that fucking dizzy drill?

923
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 6: And what I actually did. I actually used to do

924
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 6: that same thing, whether it was like a grappling round

925
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 6: or yeah, where you had to kind of get away

926
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 6: to get to the clanch or U if you got hit.

927
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's a big deal, man, It's a big

928
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 6: deal because judges are going to go a lot on

929
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 6: how you react to those shots. Not only like how

930
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 6: stoke you are or how not stoke you are by

931
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 6: making a wincing face or turning around or flipping your

932
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 6: face back.

933
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: You know.

934
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 6: The other thing is like I remember I was working

935
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 6: on this against Jose Aldo, was if he'd kicked me

936
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 6: in the leg, I'd walk forward.

937
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: You know.

938
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 6: One of the the best I could the word thing

939
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 6: you could do is kind of get hitting the leg

940
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 6: and then kind of like take steps back because now

941
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 6: you're like, okay, well that was clearly an effective strike

942
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 6: whether it was or not. But if you give that

943
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 6: kind of body language or if you take a step back,

944
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 6: then it's gonna look worse than if you just kind

945
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 6: of continue to kind of press forward. So, yeah, it's

946
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 6: little things like that could be the difference between winning

947
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 6: and losing. A lot of these fights that we're seeing

948
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 6: are super close, so what are the judges going by.

949
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 6: They're going off of your reaction to it, your body language.

950
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 6: That that literally could be the difference between you winning

951
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 6: and losing. So why not work on that? Right?

952
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's one hundred percent right with that,

953
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 5: With everything, even with the leg kick, with everything, it's

954
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: how you look. Even in the Valentina fight when she

955
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 5: got jibbed, you could see her head snap in back.

956
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 5: That that never looks good. And you know, Kenny's right,

957
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 5: it's body language. Right today we have you know, old

958
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: new words. It's optics, s optics, optics, you know, but

959
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 5: the optics is body language, you know what I mean.

960
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, he controls the rate the fight,

961
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: controls the fight. Now it's distance management. Yeah, got distance,

962
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like if forget about range,

963
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: that's a you're a you know, like what are you

964
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: born in the fifties? Body language? It's I tell you

965
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: I do I can't.

966
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 5: Oh, I swear to god, I'm not long for John.

967
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: I can't you take well no, And I hear all

968
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: these sports commentators use the word impactful and it's a

969
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: made up word, and now it has become the single

970
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: most used word in sports broadcast journalism. Something either has

971
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: impact or it doesn't, you know, full of impact. It

972
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: really doesn't even make sense. I've only seen one fighting

973
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: weakness actually from Alexander Volkanovsky a devetails with this comp

974
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: this conversation about the poker face, right, is that when

975
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: he gets hit, however infrequently, he gets hit cleanly, so

976
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: infrequently that he acknowledges it. And you know, this is

977
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: sort of a conversation about the other side of that

978
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: is teaching athletes to not at all acknowledge that. All right,

979
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: a few more minutes here with Ray Longo as part

980
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: of the award winning or should I say award nominated

981
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: Ray long go minute. So you were nominated for Coach

982
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: of the Year at the World MMA Awards. I think

983
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: there's like twenty four hours left to vote. Kenny was

984
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: nominated for Analyst of the Year. Our show was nominated

985
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: for MMA Program of the Year, which is just super exciting.

986
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: But we all were nominated individually and the show was

987
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: nominated so as such, a lot of us are going

988
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: to make our way to this award show. I don't

989
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: know if it's going to be in December or not. Now, Ray,

990
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: I don't usually win these awards, so I don't get

991
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: like the call in advance that says, hey, you know

992
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: you might win it. You may want to show up,

993
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: but like, are you going to show up in Las Vegas?

994
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Or do you need that phone call that says, hey, Ray,

995
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: you won.

996
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure. I've been I've been in the

997
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: house so long. I'm showing up for anything.

998
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 5: If they have turtle racing, they have turtle racing at

999
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 5: the Cosmopolitan, I'll be there.

1000
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: I'm starving right now for something. But when is that?

1001
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: I don't I think it is. I mean, Kenny, are

1002
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: you do you have visions of being in Vegas with

1003
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: us in December for UFC two ninety six or what?

1004
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean listen, if I don't have any other

1005
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 6: commitments for work, I'm there. I'm there with you guys,

1006
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 6: as long as you're gonna be there, don't you know.

1007
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm going just to hear the nominees for Best MMA

1008
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: Programming R and the Voice of God is going to

1009
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: say the Anakin Floran podcast, and I'm gonna get full

1010
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: body shows because honestly, no nomination for this show means

1011
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: more to me than probably anything that has happened in

1012
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: my broadcast.

1013
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 5: So then we got to be there and as soon

1014
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 5: as they say the name, we just stand up and.

1015
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 3: Go we want it, go crazy, throw everybody. We don't

1016
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: care if we want, We're gonna walk up again.

1017
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 6: Take the trust Yeah yeah.

1018
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 3: I'm I'm with Teddy. I say it's a hostile takeover.

1019
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 3: No matter who wins.

1020
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: That is brilliant.

1021
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: Ana who's gonna stop us Hawani happen?

1022
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell Morning Combat. I

1023
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: think of the reigning champs in this category. They're announced

1024
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: as the winner again. Yeah, well, just take our five

1025
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: pack and we'll all walk up there. Shit, man, they

1026
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: won it last year, and we'll just say yeah, I

1027
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: think they did. We'll just say uh, I just say, oh, sorry,

1028
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: we thought we were just so excited. We thought that

1029
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: when you announced this as the nominee that uh, that

1030
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: we actually had the hardware. We'll go We'll go sit

1031
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: back down, fat and sorry about Longo's attire. By the way,

1032
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: he didn't know it was a couple other things. Canello Alvarez?

1033
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: Did you see any of that? Watch any highlights that

1034
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: was last night?

1035
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 7: Ray?

1036
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: Did you watch any of that body that I missed?

1037
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: I missed that. I meant to watch it till but

1038
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: I missed it, all right?

1039
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: And then the last thing I had for you fellas

1040
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: today before we get to our predictions for UFC Fight Night,

1041
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: Dawson versus Green, So, Chris Leban a couple of weeks

1042
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: ago was a judge for a UFC live event, And

1043
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: I don't know how much Chris Leban has to do

1044
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: with this conversation, but I want to start with ken flow,

1045
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: and it's almost rhetorical. Is judging not the most thankless

1046
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: profession other than maybe coaching at M m A. Certainly

1047
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: in coaching a guy like long Ago right can realize

1048
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: success and then get credit for it all multiple champions whatever.

1049
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: A referee right, if he stops a fight too early,

1050
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: can be roundly criticized, but certainly if a fight is

1051
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: allowed to breathe and that it ends up being a classic,

1052
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: referees get praised a lot. Jason Herzog gets praised a

1053
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: lot on these airwaves, and rightfully so judges don't get

1054
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: a lot of praise, so I commend Chris Leeban for

1055
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: getting in the space. And while it opens up a

1056
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: thought process of me maybe wanting to judge or Kenfel

1057
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: wanting to jug, it feels like it's the most thankless

1058
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: job at MMA, and that there's only criticism really to

1059
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: be gained if you get into the space.

1060
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I agree, man, it is not an easy

1061
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 6: job at all. I think that what you probably need

1062
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 6: to have is some amount of passion for the sport

1063
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 6: right that probably is probably is there. And for Chris Leeban,

1064
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 6: I think it's a way of him probably giving back

1065
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 6: and trying to keep the standards as high as possible,

1066
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 6: right as a former fighter, ensuring that he's doing his

1067
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 6: best as a judge to you know, keep the sport

1068
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 6: as fair as possible. Not an easy thing to do,

1069
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 6: not an easy thing to do at all. I think

1070
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 6: that also as a fighter, you know, it's really important

1071
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 6: that you go out there and you educate yourself and

1072
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 6: do all those courses. There's a lot involved in doing that.

1073
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 6: There's a lot of pressure on you as well, just

1074
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 6: because you may have some existing relationships and things like that.

1075
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 6: So it gets even more complicated, I think in a

1076
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 6: lot of ways for a former fighter like Chrisly. But

1077
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 6: the fact that he is doing that I think is

1078
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 6: awesome and I think it's also much needed, much needed.

1079
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think he had a rough start to write.

1080
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Speaker 5: It was the only guy that called. I think it

1081
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Speaker 5: was a split decision and he was the sole vote

1082
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Speaker 5: on the other one.

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Speaker 1: But see what I mean, guy, I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Chris Leave, he's a good dude.

1085
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Speaker 5: But I think you know, you got to get the

1086
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 5: guys that weren't imagine that we have three judges, It's Liddell, Chris,

1087
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 5: Leeb and let's starw Tito or peas in Now. I

1088
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 5: mean I think you got to get the guys that

1089
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 5: weren't hitting ahead a lot.

1090
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Speaker 3: Of times towards the end of their career.

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Speaker 6: No, well, let's just me?

1092
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 3: Is one the thing on? Is it just me? Ken?

1093
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 5: Flow?

1094
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, man.

1095
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: Let's Kenny, Let's take somebody who fought Henny.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see as a judge, love to see it.

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Speaker 1: Right, Kenny, Right, No, I know you would. Now, I

1098
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: would love to be able to give back to a

1099
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: sport that has given so much to my life, right,

1100
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: So I would be lying if I said to you

1101
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: guys and everybody else that I didn't have some interest

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Speaker 1: in doing this. And part of my interest is because

1103
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: I've spent so much time watching MMA, analyzing rounds, analyzing

1104
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: the criteria, trying to get myself to a hire intellect

1105
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: a level when it comes to my interpretation of the criteria.

1106
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, to like give back and try to do

1107
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: right by the fighters. But I feel like my first

1108
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: show would be like, dude, annek fucking call fights for

1109
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: twenty years. That's one of the worst scorecards I've ever

1110
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: seen it. So is my skin back enough?

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00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 6: Right?

1112
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Speaker 3: Right?

1113
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 6: It's top dude.

1114
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: I think I think you'd be perfect too. John.

1115
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 5: I think you're, like, like you say, you're already trying

1116
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 5: and understand it. You're probably better than ninety percent of

1117
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 5: the people out there already.

1118
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: But uh, you know what.

1119
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, it's definitely a thankless job. But you know,

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Speaker 5: like I always say, I think ninety five percent of

1121
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 5: the fights judge themselves.

1122
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: They're easy. It's that five percent.

1123
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 5: That way, you got to get good guys in there

1124
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 5: that are really looking at everything, and I don't know,

1125
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 5: some fights are really really close, man, they just aw

1126
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 5: so you know, what are you gonna do?

1127
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 10: But I think it's like my thing always was, as

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00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 10: long as we could hear from the judges and see

1129
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 10: what they have to say, maybe they swing us over

1130
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 10: to their side and you go, you know what, the

1131
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 10: guy's got a point on something.

1132
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 5: But we just never have that feedback. So I think

1133
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 5: it just muddies the water. Is that much more that

1134
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 5: we can't talk to anybody and find out what they're thinking.

1135
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 5: I mean that that would be a big help. You

1136
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 5: might talk to a guy and after two minutes go, oh,

1137
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 5: you get him the fuck out of here, Like this

1138
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 5: guy's got it, you know what I mean.

1139
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: Like that's the thing.

1140
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 5: So I think they know that, and they keep these people,

1141
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 5: you know, segregated from the rest of us. And I

1142
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 5: think that's where the biggest problem comes at. I think

1143
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 5: we need transparency. We have to know what these guys

1144
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 5: are thinking.

1145
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: And you know, look back in the.

1146
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 5: Day, Kenny, like you would you would pick a referee

1147
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 5: on all right, this guy lets you hold more.

1148
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: Oh, this guy's gonna break you quick. Guys. So I'm

1149
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: not saying that's what the rules. The rules are the rules,

1150
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: but at least you knew what you were getting, you

1151
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and you could do the same thing.

1152
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: You know with judges.

1153
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 5: This guy likes more wrestling, you know, that's the way

1154
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 5: he's been scoring fights.

1155
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: If they're really in tune of what's going on. This

1156
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 3: guy's more for the striking, even though that's wrong.

1157
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 5: But you know, you probably have you could maneuver your

1158
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 5: way around a little bit like that.

1159
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: I think I just bring it up largely to acknowledge

1160
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: and appreciate Chris Leban, right, because I just feel like

1161
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: I can't think of that many more professions out there

1162
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: that are so thankless. And I keep trotting out this

1163
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: line that the most basic human need is to feel appreciated.

1164
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: And I do think for all of us, in our

1165
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: walks of life and whatever is your occupation out there,

1166
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: most of us feel some modicum of appreciation. I don't

1167
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: get a lot of internal acknowledgment from the UFC and

1168
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: my bosses. I get it from the fan base, though,

1169
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, like I just feel like for a judge,

1170
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: like if you're going back to your hotel room and

1171
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: trying to enjoy a cheeseburger after a show, maybe you're

1172
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: enjoying it more because they're not talking about a single

1173
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: scorecard of yours that maybe has gone awry. But I

1174
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: just I do feel badly for Mike Bell and trying

1175
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: to distance himself from that Valentina Shipchenko Alexe Grosso scorecard.

1176
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know credit to Chris Leeban, but I'm not

1177
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: sure that I have the stone when I retire as

1178
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: a broadcaster to actually go judge Emma.

1179
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I agree. I think it's it's tough.

1180
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 3: I mean, we also have in Jersey Hakardo Almeida.

1181
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 5: Oh, I think makes a great judge, but we haven't

1182
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 5: seen him around because I think I haven't told to

1183
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 5: Alcado in years. But I'm sure he's enjoying his family

1184
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 5: and you know, moving to Florida.

1185
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: Is he moving to Florida just open to jiu jitsu school?

1186
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: I think in the Sarasota area.

1187
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 3: If I'm not mi, wow, he's at a great guy.

1188
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's out completely, but if memory serves.

1189
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 5: Wow, see that's big. I haven't even seen him. I'm

1190
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 5: surprised man hasn't said anything. But he's a He's a

1191
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 5: guy that I would consider is a would be a

1192
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 5: great judge.

1193
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: And he's already judged and done great.

1194
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 5: I'd like to see more of him, but I have

1195
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 5: no idea what he's doing.

1196
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: Oh well, we'd like to see more of you, and

1197
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: we'll see you next Monday. And of course we can't

1198
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: wait to see your shining face at Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 1: If you want more from long go check him out

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Speaker 1: on x at Ray Longo Mma. And if you want

1201
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: to find him on Instagram, it's at Ray Longo Mma

1202
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Speaker 1: like nine to three five eight or some.

1203
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Speaker 3: Shit nine eight. We all know what that means. Of course,

1204
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: no idea. I was a guy. Was a guy was

1205
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: tweaking when he made that up for him? Hey, not

1206
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: even joking.

1207
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, enjoy your Sunday, and don't forget National Football

1208
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: League comes on in about sixty minutes if you're so inclined.

1209
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll be watching. I'll see you guys.

1210
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: Take it easy here right there.

1211
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Speaker 3: He is.

1212
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Speaker 1: Very long ago and the Ray Longo met it every

1213
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1218
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Speaker 1: of the week here in advance of Dawson v. Green,

1219
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: as there was not a name challenging enough to warrant

1220
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: the exercise, So we will get straight to the predictions

1221
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: and the main event challenge.

1222
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: It's the main Event Challenge and it.

1223
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: Is most definitively.

1224
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 7: High faced.

1225
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: How do everything.

1226
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: Possible to win? It's a main event challenge with John

1227
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: Hannick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1228
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: And joining us every week for the Main Event Challenge.

1229
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: You know what it is? From the MMA Takes podcast.

1230
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: Brian Petrie on social media at Brian Petrie MMA, what's up?

1231
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: Good looking?

1232
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Speaker 9: What's going on?

1233
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: Boys?

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00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 9: I don't wear a hat. My hair is getting a

1235
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 9: little shaggy. Didn't want to get ragged on by John

1236
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 9: Nita haircut through the hat on Let's Go.

1237
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: Canelo Alvarez competed last night. I don't know if that

1238
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: got your pay per view dollars, but any thoughts on

1239
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: the highlights and how seemingly easy that exercise appeared to

1240
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: be for him on Saturday night?

1241
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, so it didn't give my pay per view dollars?

1242
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 9: But I did watch it and I'm not going but

1243
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 9: uh yeah, no, listen, Canelo is a different beast. You know,

1244
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 9: he was walking forward, he was determined the guys. You know,

1245
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 9: the one thing that it felt like he was born,

1246
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 9: you know, he felt like he was just all through

1247
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 9: the emotions last few fights. This fight for whatever is

1248
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 9: he got up Cardial on point ten on point stalk

1249
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 9: and Charlow you know, dropped them with the with a

1250
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 9: clean right hand that you know that was that was

1251
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 9: great because Charlo had a high guard the whole time.

1252
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 9: But yeah, Canelo is one of my favorites. I'm always

1253
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 9: going to tune in Canelo.

1254
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: All right, So there's one John Jones Stepe Miachich thing

1255
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: that I need to ask of you before I asked

1256
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: it of Ken Flow and Ray Longo, and then I'll

1257
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: get to the standings and ultimately the six selections that

1258
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: you have for us today. We've also had a lot

1259
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: of conversations about reworking the main event challenge for next year.

1260
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: We appreciate the listeners who have chimed in. It looks

1261
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: like maybe you guys are only going to be required

1262
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: to make like three selections per card next year. Despite

1263
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: breaking every card down in totality. But answer me this man, Yeah,

1264
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: why is there a number north of plus three hundred

1265
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: next to step A Miachiic's name at UFC two ninety five.

1266
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Speaker 1: I understand, John Jones is the consensus greatest mixed martial

1267
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: arts athlete of all time, but he's minus three to

1268
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: eighty against stepe who is maybe the best heavyweight the

1269
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: UFC has ever seen. And like you, someone needs to

1270
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: explain to me why that number keeps going up and

1271
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Speaker 1: Steepeck can be had right now at plus three ten.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think you said it. I mean John's the goat,

1273
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 9: so everyone's gonna load up on John no matter what.

1274
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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 9: I would love the love the lookout if he ever

1276
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 9: closes an underdog or what his lowest closing price was,

1277
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 9: because there's probably not many out there. I mean, everyone

1278
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 9: loads up on John.

1279
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Speaker 3: Literally.

1280
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Speaker 9: I think, to me, my biggest, my biggest, you know,

1281
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 9: without loading up on steepe would be the fact that

1282
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 9: he's been gone for so long and the last time

1283
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 9: we saw him and got knocked out. And then yes,

1284
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 9: you know age isn't you know he's getting older. He's

1285
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Speaker 9: a heavyweight. I know heavyweights can fight till like fifty something,

1286
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 9: but you know, you're just a little concerned about that.

1287
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 9: But it looks like he's in great shape, looks like

1288
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 9: he's training.

1289
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: Uh you know, I.

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Speaker 9: Follow them on socials. I'm sure he's always in the

1291
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 9: gym and stuff. So it's gonna be interesting. I mean,

1292
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 9: that fight would be closer, in my opinion than the

1293
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 9: numbers suggest. But uh yeah, I think it's the two factors.

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Speaker 9: Last time we saw Steve Ba got knocked out and

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00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 9: then John Jones being fucking John Jones, you know, so

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Speaker 9: they ain carries.

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Speaker 1: All I've wanted to hear all day is what our

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00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: producer just typed into the chat room is just the

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Speaker 1: other side, and he thinks minus three to eighty is

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Speaker 1: honestly a steel price next to John Jones. So all right,

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Speaker 1: I just felt like I need to hear somebody I

1302
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: just don't understand. I saw Stepe plus two sixty a

1303
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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, went on there today just to get

1304
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: the lines for Prohaska and Padeda and saw plus three

1305
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Speaker 1: ten and felt like it was a talking point. We'll

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Speaker 1: see where it closes in about six weeks. All right,

1307
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Speaker 1: quick update on the standings. Peatree let it going into

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Speaker 1: the Physique Gamroz show three and two. On the week,

1309
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Speaker 1: you dropped a couple units on Rafaelphazivee and then three

1310
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Speaker 1: units on Dan Egay, So three and two for the week,

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Speaker 1: but minus three hundred and twenty four dollars for the week,

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Speaker 1: and then Team Floory and two and three that included

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Speaker 1: a five unit loss that we mentioned on Rafaelphazee. It's

1314
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Speaker 1: unlucky there and just sort of a microcosm for the

1315
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Speaker 1: way it has gone for you at times this year.

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Speaker 1: So minus eight ten for the week for Ken Flow,

1317
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Speaker 1: and that brings us to UFC Fight Night, Dawson versus Green.

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Speaker 1: First up for us is a bantamweight prelim. I felt

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Speaker 1: like this fight was big enough to warrant a prediction

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Speaker 1: here Today Montel Jackson outside the top fifteen guys, but

1321
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Speaker 1: he is the minus one ninety eight betting favorite here

1322
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Speaker 1: against number fifteen Chris Gutierrez, who is plus one sixty four.

1323
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Speaker 1: So Montel Jackson, don't look now, guys. He's won four

1324
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Speaker 1: in a row now to get to the cusp of

1325
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: the rankings. Gudierra's had that big win over Frankie Edgar

1326
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Speaker 1: late twenty twenty two that punctuated an eight fight on

1327
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Speaker 1: beaten Streak, but then he bowed to Paedro Munoz earlier

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Speaker 1: this year. As such, finds himself back on the prelims

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Speaker 1: Pivotal one at that VP. Which way you going, Montel

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Speaker 1: Jackson or Chris Gudier.

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Speaker 3: This is how we do.

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Speaker 9: How does Montel Jackson not come out to Montel Jordan?

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Speaker 9: I'll never know. I love this fight. Both these guys

1334
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 9: are kind of built. Their careers are kind of built

1335
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 9: the same. They both got thrown to the wolves right

1336
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Speaker 9: in their UFC debut. You got gudierres dropping and hanniboselos

1337
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 9: and you got Montel jockson against Ricky Simone. And then

1338
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 9: they've been a little inconsistent. They haven't fought a lot.

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Speaker 9: You know, good Jayra's a little more than Montel. Montell

1340
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 9: has said. I'm trying to get better. I'm trying to

1341
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 9: get my skills. You're thirty thirty one, now, time to

1342
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 9: ramp it up. I love this guy. I love Montel Jackson.

1343
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 9: He's got banana hns, his hands are huge, and he

1344
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 9: proved it last time coming out finally getting a finish.

1345
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 9: There's been times where he's rock people and he's had

1346
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 9: the finished there and he's let him off the hook

1347
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 9: last time out didn't let him off the hook. I

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Speaker 9: love that his grapplings the league. Chris Gudierrezo another really sneaky,

1349
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 9: hard guy to predict here, great lake kicks, great striking

1350
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 9: on paper goods, taking on offense. Hasn't fought a ton

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Speaker 9: of grappers to the level of Montal Jackson is also

1352
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 9: a big thirty five as well. I like Montel here.

1353
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 9: I thought I was gonna get him at a cheaper price

1354
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 9: because Gudierez is a flashy guy with some really great knockouts.

1355
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Speaker 9: You know, almost two to one here in Montel is

1356
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 9: not a price I love. But I'm still gonna take

1357
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 9: Monte Jackson here. I think he gets done maybe late,

1358
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 9: sub but I love this fight.

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Speaker 1: It is crazy, and perhaps some of our listeners don't

1360
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 1: like when we continue to bring it up, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Montel Jackson's hands Kenny measured bigger than Francis s and

1362
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: Gano's who the NFC measured them. It's absolutely insane for

1363
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Speaker 1: a one hundred and thirty five pound fighter getting the

1364
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Speaker 1: respect here is the betting favorite against the credential Chris

1365
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Speaker 1: Gutierres ken flow, we need pick who do you like?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, listen. I think with Chris Gutierrez, there's times

1367
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 6: where I see him and he looks phenomenal. There's other

1368
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 6: times where he looks like he's not into it, like

1369
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 6: the volume starts to shut down. You know, this almost

1370
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 6: seems like he's checking out a little bit. But Chris

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Speaker 6: gutierres at his best is I think can win this fight.

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Speaker 6: But I gotta go with consistency here and with Montel Jackson,

1373
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 6: I think he has more of that. I think kind

1374
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 6: of the time is now you gotta beat someone like

1375
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Speaker 6: at Chris Gutiers, who I think is a very good

1376
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 6: fighter to prove that, you know, you can get on

1377
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Speaker 6: bigger fights, you know, main events, main cards, pay per views,

1378
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 6: things like that, So he's working his way up to that.

1379
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Speaker 6: I don't think it's an easy fight, but I do

1380
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Speaker 6: think it's you know, the value is there for Montel

1381
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 6: Jackson enough that I think he pulls us off and

1382
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 6: gets the win here.

1383
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 1: All right, both guys like Montel Jackson. That brings us

1384
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: to our next fight at lightweight, Bill Algio minus one

1385
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: thirty five taking on Alexander the Great Ape Hernandez plus

1386
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: one fourteen Algao Reps King of Prussia Pennsylvania has won

1387
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Speaker 1: three of four and thirty four years old. Now, Brian

1388
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: didn't realize he was that old, So the time has

1389
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: kind of got to be sued for a run. He's

1390
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Speaker 1: on one right now, hopes it continues against Alexander Hernandez,

1391
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: who do you have?

1392
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Speaker 6: VP?

1393
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, Bill Algio, Philly tough, you know, comes from that

1394
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 9: just you know, he's hard to put away, doesn't have

1395
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 9: the biggest power in the world, but he breaks you

1396
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 9: down with Cardio, breaks you down to enough where he

1397
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 9: can get you to the ground maybe submit you excuse me,

1398
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 9: maybe the TK And then alex Hernandez, this guy's career

1399
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 9: is crazy, right, debuts and knocks out but Neil dar Hues, Okay, great,

1400
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 9: that guy should have you know, could have fallen for

1401
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 9: a title. Then you go on this weird run where

1402
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 9: you're dropping these ugly losses. You're leaving Texas, You're going

1403
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 9: to all these different camps. You can't really find yourself.

1404
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 9: And I feel like his last time out against Jim Miller,

1405
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 9: a fight that on paper he was a favorite to win,

1406
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 9: but I felt like those are the fights you lose

1407
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 9: in the past, whether it'd be a mental lapse or

1408
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 9: a cardio lapse. And he took some shots from Jim Miller,

1409
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 9: who's a dog. We all know Jim Miller's a dog

1410
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 9: in there. And Hernandez really put together a complete performance.

1411
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 9: I thought that turned the corner for him. So as

1412
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 9: long as he gets gets out of his own way,

1413
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 9: I think he's good here. He's got a plus number

1414
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 9: next to his name. I think he has big power.

1415
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 9: I think it was Cardio shows up. He's not gonna

1416
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 9: worry about Bill Aljio's pressure. So give me her Nandez here, man,

1417
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 9: give me her Nandez. I like that.

1418
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 6: I like that number.

1419
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Speaker 9: I like to play. That might be a couple of

1420
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 9: unis for your boy here to take you back on

1421
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 9: the track. But I'm not gonna out of here, just

1422
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 9: staying in my own life, right right, right.

1423
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 11: No.

1424
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: I thought you did a nice job with the handicap,

1425
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: and I thought you hit on a lot of truths

1426
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to Hernandez, some of them inconvenient. But Kenny,

1427
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: he didn't need a big win to start his twenty

1428
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: twenty three got it against Jim Miller, high profile opponent.

1429
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on him here in the role

1430
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: of underdog against Bill Algie.

1431
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a good side for Hernandez, and I

1432
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 6: think Brian Petrie kind of did a great job of

1433
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 6: breaking down this fight and why this was kind of

1434
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 6: a difficult one for me to pick. I think that

1435
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 6: Aljio kind of always comes in shape. You know. Brian

1436
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 6: talked about the conditioning of Hernandez, which sometimes can fail him,

1437
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 6: and I think that I'm willing to put enough on

1438
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,479
Speaker 6: Aljio to see him go out there and maybe try

1439
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 6: to tire out Hernandez. Hernandez, I think is probably probably

1440
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 6: going to hit harder, but he tends to be kind

1441
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 6: of scatterbrained out there when he competes. Sometimes he gets

1442
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 6: off of what he's supposed to be doing for his

1443
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 6: game plan and he will go in and start trading.

1444
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 6: Sometimes he'll get emotional. Sometimes he'll go into these transitions

1445
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 6: that he just shouldn't be involved with. And I think

1446
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 6: that some of those mental lapses is what's keeping me

1447
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 6: hesitant on going with the underdog here. So I'll go

1448
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 6: with the slight favorite here in Algio. I think he

1449
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 6: gets it done. I think this game is going to

1450
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 6: be too well rounded. I think he tends to be

1451
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 6: more disciplined during his fight, so give me Bill all right.

1452
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: Next main card matchup, also in the lightweight division, Drew

1453
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: Dober minus four to seventy taken on Rick Glenn, who

1454
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: is plus three sixty. So Dober trying to rally back

1455
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: from what was really a huge loss to Matt fravolat

1456
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: UFC two to eighty eight and Newark back in May.

1457
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: Favorite here, some might say prohibitive fave. Rick the Gladiator

1458
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: Glenn fought the headliner Grant Dawson to that drawback in

1459
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, but he's only fought once since, and

1460
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: that was a knockout, lost to Christosciagos back at April.

1461
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: Brian Petrie and the action for you here, Dover and Glenn,

1462
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: what do you.

1463
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 9: Think lines are wide? You know Ricky Glenn, Please say

1464
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 9: the Ricky Glenn you know? Add that wide old Ricky

1465
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 9: Glenn's name there. I loved him when he came from

1466
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 9: World Cities of Fighting. I thought this guy was interesting.

1467
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 9: Long rangy weapons, didn't have the biggest power, but he

1468
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 9: can pop a little bit. He's got some knockouts, decent

1469
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 9: on the ground. Obviously take down the defense could be a

1470
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 9: little bit of an issue. But in the UFC, he's

1471
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 9: been inconsistent, hasn't fought a lot. He's been in the

1472
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 9: UFC since twenty sixteen. That's only eight fights. I mean,

1473
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 9: that's not a great record, or mean, excuse me, that's

1474
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 9: not the being very active. While Dober debut in UFC

1475
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 9: in twenty thirteen, this will be his twenty first fight.

1476
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 9: You know, Dover is a dog. But Dober coming off

1477
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 9: the fight over Favola where he got stiff for the

1478
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 9: first time. The fight before that, Bobby Green was piecing

1479
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 9: him up. Fight before that, Terrence McKenney had him. Fight

1480
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 9: before that, Jafay al Ava's had him. So this is

1481
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 9: a guy that needs to work on his defense. You

1482
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 9: can't rely on that chin your whole career. I know

1483
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 9: it's great, I know it's chisel from Granted, you look

1484
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 9: like a Greek god out there, but you got to

1485
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 9: protect yourself a little bit here, and Ricky Glenn can

1486
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 9: put some punches together. You go all the way back

1487
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 9: to Ricky Glenn versus Gavin Tucker, Man, how's that ten

1488
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 9: to seven fight? He beat the piss out of Gavin Tucker.

1489
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 9: He looked on fire and Gavin Tucker. I think he

1490
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 9: is a good fighter. Yeah, so it pauses me. I'm

1491
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 9: not throwing any extra units over anything. I do think

1492
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 9: Dober has an X factor with the power. Ricky Glenn

1493
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 9: coming off a knockout've been around for a while. Maybe

1494
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 9: the reason the inconsistency in the fighting was because of injuries.

1495
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 9: You know, those pile up when you start getting in

1496
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 9: your thirties. Gimme Dober not confident wide number, wouldn't see

1497
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 9: wouldn't be surprised if people pick Glenn. But yeah, I'm

1498
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 9: gonna go with Dober.

1499
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: Ken Fuy, what do you think here? Drew Dober minus

1500
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,799
Speaker 1: four seventy, Rick Glenn plus three six. You had imagine

1501
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: if you were actually betting with dollars that could help

1502
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: your family. You're not laying for seventy with Rue Dober.

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: But any thoughts on this one At one hundred and

1504
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: fifty five pounds.

1505
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, that numbers a little odd for me, especially coming

1506
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 6: off off of that last fight and the fact that

1507
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 6: you know Rick Glenn he has some good performances, he

1508
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 6: also has some bad performances. Certainly, if you go I

1509
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 6: think Brian alluded to this, you go all the way

1510
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 6: back to twenty sixteen. There is a lot of different

1511
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 6: colors when you look at his win and losses. However,

1512
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 6: I do think he's a good enough fighter where he

1513
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 6: can steal this fight. He can certainly hurt Dober, who

1514
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 6: has relied on his chin and his toughness for a

1515
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,879
Speaker 6: very long time. What do you do when that goes away?

1516
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 6: And for Vola did not help his cause at all

1517
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 6: because once the chin goes once you get knocked out,

1518
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 6: it's easier to get knocked out. That is, you know,

1519
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 6: more of the case than not. You know, it's rare

1520
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 6: that you see a guy kind of come back and

1521
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 6: you know, have a chin like granted, like an idea

1522
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 6: as you can kind of survive and come back. I

1523
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 6: don't know how he does it, but it's very rare.

1524
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 6: So I don't know. Joe Dober great guy, but do

1525
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 6: I see himself just like changing from the last fight

1526
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 6: to this fight. I and I think there's enough value

1527
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,959
Speaker 6: on rick Glenn to get it done again. Not confident

1528
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 6: with this one, but I like I like Glenn here.

1529
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 9: Love that pig can flow.

1530
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: Thanks Ricky Glenn right now plus three sixty on DraftKings Sportsbook.

1531
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: All right at welterweight. Recent Anakin Florian podcast guest new

1532
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: Man's a Jocke Buckley minus one ninety two Alex Morono

1533
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: plus one sixty. So Buckley, the former midweight stopped Andre

1534
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: Fialio back on May twentieth, Now a near two to

1535
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: one favorite as he spins it forward against the four

1536
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: toes MMA s last Gracie Baja, the Woodlands product Alex

1537
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: Morono Ken Flow. How about this over under seventeen and

1538
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: a half UFC fights for Alex Morono coming in over

1539
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 1: under seventeen and a half UFC fights to this point

1540
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: in time for Alex Morono.

1541
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 6: Man, I mean, did we call his fights back of

1542
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 6: the day? I would think I would think over dud.

1543
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,480
Speaker 1: Du Lot over Hits twelve and five with a no contest,

1544
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: and he submitted Tim means business back in May on

1545
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: ABC and Charlotte ken Full. What do you think here,

1546
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: Buckley minus one ninety two or Morono plus one sixty

1547
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: in a featured bat.

1548
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 6: Oh man, here's another tough one for me. I think

1549
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 6: Morono could get things done if he can get to

1550
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 6: that clinch consistently, if you can hit those takedowns, get

1551
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 6: top position, I think he can give Buckley a tough time.

1552
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 6: I do know that Joaquin Buckley has been training with

1553
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 6: one of the best teams in the world as far

1554
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 6: as jiu jitsu goes, and B team in Austin, Texas.

1555
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 6: I've been seeing him train a lot more down there,

1556
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 6: probably in preparation for this fight here against Morona, who's

1557
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 6: a Brazilian jitsu black belt. You know, I think that

1558
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 6: Buckley is going to be certainly the more powerful guy

1559
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 6: on the feet. He's a guy who can end the

1560
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 6: fight in an instant, in an instant, and I think

1561
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 6: we saw that in his last fight out one hundred

1562
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 6: and seventy pounds. Now, assuming he has another good way cut,

1563
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 6: I think he should win this fight. Morono can cause

1564
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 6: problems for you though. He's very good at forcing people

1565
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 6: to fight his fight. Think the author are a little bit, uh,

1566
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 6: you know, too high for Buckley here, but I'm willing

1567
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 6: to go with it. I think Buckley's power, of his

1568
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 6: athleticism kind of will will get him by in this one.

1569
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 6: He's gonna have to stop the fight. He's gonna have

1570
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 6: to stop the takedown, gonna have to have an answer

1571
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 6: to those clinch clinches of Morono consistently but yeah, I'll

1572
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 6: go with Buckley. I think his size is going to

1573
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 6: be a factor. Hearing this one as well, all.

1574
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 1: Right, Brian Petrue, we need a selection. Joaquin Buckley minus

1575
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: one ninety two Alex Morono plus one sixty. And by

1576
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: the way, if you see me looking off to the side,

1577
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics just made a big trade for true

1578
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 1: holiday Portland trailblazers. Most like the time, Lord Robert Williams

1579
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: might no longer be a Boston Celtics. So that was

1580
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: the reason why I was looking off to the cyber

1581
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: of holidays A fuck. I stood, yeah, Brian, who do

1582
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: you have for us? Though I know our mixed martial

1583
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: arts audience cares not about what I just said.

1584
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 9: I love this fight. This is this is a fight

1585
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 9: that puzzles me because I get these these guys wrong

1586
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 9: all the time. You know, I mean Morono. The last

1587
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 9: time out I go, I got to start putting on

1588
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 9: respect on Alex Marono's name. I don't think I'm gonna

1589
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 9: do that this time because I think I'm going to

1590
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 9: Joaquin Buckley. I love that he's down to the b

1591
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 9: team of Craig Jones and Nicky Ryan. Those guys that's

1592
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 9: one of the best gyms in the world. I was

1593
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 9: wondering because I watched their logs on YouTube. I'm wondering, like,

1594
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 9: more guys need to go down here, Like these guys

1595
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:21,520
Speaker 9: are real deal studs. And Craig Jones works without Volkanowski

1596
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 9: who got him ready for Islam. And look what he

1597
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 9: did there. That's that's a guy who knows what the

1598
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 9: fuck he's doing. I love that move by Buckley. He's

1599
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 9: bounced all over the world. He's a he's a character.

1600
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 9: He's funny online, but he's serious about this stuff. And

1601
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 9: I think people are maybe looking too much into his

1602
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 9: his one seventy debut in the UFC. I Meandre Fiel

1603
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 9: is coming off four straight knockout losses. Yes he looked good,

1604
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 9: unless he look great. Yes he looked ripped up everything,

1605
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 9: but let's not overreact. So I do agree the lines

1606
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 9: a little long because Alex Morono's just guy's just there.

1607
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 9: I mean he had the Pontz and Ebro fight one

1608
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 9: and then he got clipped right. That's been his big

1609
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 9: thing in his career is his chin. He's got that

1610
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 9: awkward style volume fight IQ through the whroof. I was

1611
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 9: taking some good shots and he gives you but overtime

1612
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 9: three rounds. I don't know if you can and Buckley

1613
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 9: can fucking crack. I love this fight to make because

1614
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 9: it makes me uncomfortable, and I'm trying this new thing

1615
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 9: that you know. Usually I would be like, I'm scared,

1616
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 9: I'm making three units. I'm Buckley because I think he done.

1617
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 9: I'm not afraid. Let's go. I live in the uncomfortable.

1618
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: Maybe absolutely chiseled black dude versus like Joey White yea right, yeah,

1619
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: joe White dude always finds him way, It's true. We'll

1620
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: see how it goes. Two really good eggs there, walking

1621
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: Buckley and Alex Morono made the better man win, all right,

1622
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 1: co main event Back to you, Petrion. This Joe body

1623
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: bags pipeer Monus three ninety five. Abdull Razak al Hassen

1624
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: is plus three ten PIP for eleven and two. He's

1625
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: twenty seven years of age out of Philadelphia, PA, and

1626
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 1: he's off to weight resounding two when I was starting

1627
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: in the UFC. Here he draws the power packing. Abdul

1628
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: Razak al Hassen, a thirty eight year old veteran of

1629
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: eleven UFC, fights another widespread here BP which way you're going?

1630
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 9: So I love this fight. A little quick backstory, I

1631
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 9: hate Joe Pifer's nickname the body Bag. The one time

1632
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 9: I was going to fight an amateur mixed more show arts,

1633
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 9: I drove to Indianapolis. I waded in against a guy

1634
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 9: named Alan the body bag forget his last name, and

1635
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 9: I'm like, god, you get that out of here. He

1636
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 9: ended up pulling out fighting that never happened. You know,

1637
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 9: I think I said it. I think at the way

1638
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 9: and I'm just kidding. But be like, Joe Pifer needs

1639
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 9: to be his nickname. I mean, Dana White stamped you, bro,

1640
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 9: that's what you're gonna known as the next week you're

1641
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 9: sitting ringside, you're staying, you're homeless, your ringside with some

1642
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 9: hot chick. Be like, Joe Pifer's your nickname. I mean

1643
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 9: it's just be yeah, right, b Joe. It's not be

1644
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 9: like right, but it's yes.

1645
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean they've already printed the shirts, but yes, he

1646
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: would be announced by Buffer as you know, out of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

1647
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,440
Speaker 1: Be Joe Whiffer's perfect.

1648
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 9: Perfect and Dana. You know, Dana gave you that, right.

1649
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 9: I like Joe Pifer he's a big beefy kid. He's

1650
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 9: he's coming along good. I mean the one time he

1651
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 9: saw him grapple against Soulfus back in the Contentiucy, he

1652
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 9: broke his arm. I know that can happen. So Fos

1653
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 9: was a pretty good grappler. Abdul Razak Alhassen is going

1654
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 9: to come in and probably use some judo.

1655
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who's been chinned before.

1656
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: He's got big, big power.

1657
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 9: If he doesn't get you out of the first round,

1658
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 9: it's going to be a rat form. In my opinion,

1659
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 9: I think he's gonna want to.

1660
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: Grap a little bit.

1661
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 9: I love what Pifer did he after the Jared Minerscrat fight.

1662
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 9: He went and did a couple of grapplings right. He

1663
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 9: grappled Jammris Cart and beat him, you know, beat him

1664
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 9: by one points or decision or whatever. So I like

1665
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 9: that he's mixing it up and he's getting better. The

1666
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 9: number is huge, but b Joe Pifer, baby, I think

1667
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 9: he wins his fight. I think it's gonna be second

1668
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 9: or third round knockout. I think he's going to continue

1669
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 9: to grow super athletics, super powerful as long as he

1670
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 9: doesn't it clipped. I think you know you can play

1671
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 9: one round ko on a hastin. I think that'd be

1672
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 9: a great gorgeous number for you. But I like, I

1673
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 9: like Joe Pifer.

1674
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: Here bid Joe Pifer modus three ninety five ab Dul

1675
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: Razak Alhassen plus three ten. Those are the odds right

1676
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: now in Draft Kings sportsbook. Can plow what he had

1677
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: for us here.

1678
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean this is one of those fights I

1679
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 6: do not see going the distance. Both guys have big power,

1680
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 6: they both have a bunch of knockouts on their record,

1681
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 6: so it could be very chaotic in there, and it's

1682
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 6: not always clear as to who's going to get the

1683
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 6: knockout when you have two guys with that kind of speed,

1684
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 6: that kind of power, that kind of athleticism. But I

1685
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 6: think Piper is a little bit newer on the scene.

1686
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 6: I think he's his consistency you can rely on a

1687
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 6: bit more than al Hassan's. So give me Piper here,

1688
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 6: all right.

1689
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,839
Speaker 1: Finally, our main event, first UFC headlining spot for Grant Dawson,

1690
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 1: whom you will hear from shortly right here on the

1691
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: Anakin Florian podcast in about ten minutes. He is the

1692
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 1: whopping minus four twenty five favorite against Bobby king Green,

1693
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: who is plus three hundred twenty third UFC appearance for

1694
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: king Green coming in following a recent win over Tony

1695
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: Ferguson that was a UFC two ninety one in late

1696
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: July in Salt Lake City. So Green still only thirty seven,

1697
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 1: just turned but Speed's still there, at least to my eyes,

1698
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: but figures to get a good wrestling test from Dawson,

1699
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: who is twenty and one as an MMA pro and

1700
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: eight oho to one in the UFC after went over

1701
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: demir Is Magoulah back on July first UFC Fight Night

1702
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: main event, Dawson, Green, Brian Petrie, Who do you have?

1703
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 9: I should have been unsold on Green a while ago,

1704
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 9: but it took the Demir fight for me to sell

1705
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 9: on him. This guy's grappling and even I guess the

1706
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 9: Mark massifight as well Olympic silver maybe cold medalists what

1707
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 9: he did to him too. The guy's grappling for real

1708
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 9: is Cardios for real. The move from Kraus's to American

1709
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 9: Top Team was a great move for him. He's made

1710
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 9: leaps and bounds improvements.

1711
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 3: Right.

1712
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 9: I want to see a little more polished on the feet,

1713
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 9: because I feel like, once you start cracking these really

1714
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 9: top ten, top five guys, I don't know if that

1715
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 9: style is gonna work. Bobby Green's an interesting guy. Good

1716
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 9: takedown the fence. When he gets taken to the ground,

1717
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 9: you know he's got submission Smith Tony Ferguson, but no

1718
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 9: office back is a little tricky for me. I think

1719
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 9: grand Dawson's gonna live there. I think this is a

1720
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 9: great fight for grand Dawson. Bobby Green, you know he

1721
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 9: got paid taking that Islam fight on short notice. Every

1722
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 9: time I see him, he's got more jewelry, He's got

1723
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 9: more rings. This guy needs to train to be able

1724
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 9: to support all the drooler he's got on King. I

1725
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 9: love Bobby Green phenomenal formance over Tony Ferguson here, but

1726
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 9: this is a different Ki. This is a different guy.

1727
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 9: This is not a guy that's at the end of

1728
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 9: his career. This is the beginning of his career, and

1729
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 9: stylistically it's a horrible matchup for him. I like Grant

1730
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 9: Dawson here. I'm gonna go ahead and throw two extra units

1731
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 9: on grand Dawson. Let's just use the five total. I

1732
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 9: wasn't going to that was a spur of the moment thing,

1733
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 9: but let's just fucking do it. I think this is

1734
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 9: a slam dunk form.

1735
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 1: We like that spur of the moment stuff. Here on

1736
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: the Anakin Floran Podcast, can flow. Grant Dawson first main

1737
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: event for him taking on the credentialed Bobby King Green.

1738
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: Huge price on Grant Dawson. Petrie has no problem laying it.

1739
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: What do you think about the main event coming up

1740
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: this weekend?

1741
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, very interesting fight. I think that Bobby Green,

1742
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 6: with his unorthodox style, can pose a lot of problems

1743
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,520
Speaker 6: for people, particularly other strikers. Grant Dawson is not a striker,

1744
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 6: and I think he has a style which could kind

1745
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 6: of take away some of the advantages that Bobby Green

1746
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 6: can have against other guys. What does he do? Grant

1747
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 6: Dawson goes there and smothers you. He takes away space,

1748
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 6: He gets in your face and he looks so for

1749
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 6: a way to get to that clancher. Get in on

1750
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 6: your legs and he gets right to work.

1751
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 3: Man.

1752
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 6: He goes right to work. He lets you carry his weight.

1753
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 6: He's very good at keeping top position. He's very good

1754
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 6: at transitioning to your back and from what I've seen

1755
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 6: so far out of Bobby Green on the ground, he

1756
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 6: just looks very lost. And again, someone like Grant Dawson,

1757
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 6: you can't be there on the ground and on your

1758
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 6: back for too long because he will take advantage to

1759
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 6: take advantage of it with his ground and pound pound

1760
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 6: or his submission game. So I like this fight for

1761
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 6: Grant Dawson as well. I do want to go big

1762
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 6: here as well. While I am a little bit gun shy,

1763
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 6: is lacking that I've been experiencing over the last monk

1764
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 6: Ben at half or so, let's go five un He's

1765
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 6: on Grant Dawson. He is a big favorite. But I

1766
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,440
Speaker 6: do like this one and needs a fine.

1767
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: Nice all right, both guys pretty convicted on Grant Dawson.

1768
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,919
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, Brian Petree your Cincinnati Bengals.

1769
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: And I know by the time people watch this, this

1770
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: game will have expired. But the Bengals minus two and

1771
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: a half at the Tennessee Titans today as they try

1772
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: to level their record at two and two? What do

1773
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: you think about Cincinnati in the spot today?

1774
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 9: I love him this spot. I've been watching a lot

1775
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 9: of you know, pick them shows this week, and a

1776
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 9: lot of people like the like the Bengals. That's like

1777
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 9: their locks and that scares me a little bit. We

1778
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,839
Speaker 9: all know when everyone's on the same side, they surprise.

1779
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 9: But defense of the Titans is not good. Derek Henry

1780
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 9: isn't the runner. He's thirty now that it used to

1781
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 9: be our defense. Play lights out Monday. As long as

1782
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 9: is Joe's healthy and we can get him out there

1783
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 9: and throwing the ball a little more than eight yards

1784
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 9: down the fucking field, we'll be all right. But yeahs

1785
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 9: Bengals all day, always baby two and two.

1786
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: We always start slow, right, That's true.

1787
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 9: We need it all right.

1788
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: If you want more from Brye, you can follow him

1789
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: at Brian Petrie Mma. Appreciate your contributions as always, Brother,

1790
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week or is you the

1791
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: best I'll see him is Brian Pechey with us every

1792
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: week for the main Event Challenge And speaking of this

1793
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: weekends UFC main event back at that little UFC apex

1794
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: and loss I guess let us get to kgd Well

1795
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: now joining us live on the anticin Florida podcast, one

1796
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: of the best lightweights in the world, set to take

1797
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: part his first UFC main event six days from now.

1798
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: Grant Dawson live from South Florida. Good morning, brother, We

1799
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: appreciate your time today. How are we doing.

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01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 7: I'm doing great man.

1801
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 4: Like I said, this has just been one of the

1802
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 4: best experiences of my life, and I am just so

1803
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 4: excited to get this first main event, first of many.

1804
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 4: I might add main event going in. What do we

1805
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 4: got less than what? Six days?

1806
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 7: I can't wait?

1807
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: So when are you leaving? Are you leaving Tuesday? Are

1808
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: you still in South Florida right now?

1809
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1810
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 4: So I'm in Florida right now. I like to stay

1811
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 4: in Florida for as long as possible. If they let

1812
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,919
Speaker 4: me come out Wednesday night, I would come out Wednesday

1813
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 4: night because I think that the time difference in Vegas

1814
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,520
Speaker 4: isn't so much that you need to go get acclimated.

1815
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 4: Plus when I'll be fighting will be around the same

1816
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 4: time here anyway, So I would rather be in Florida

1817
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 4: with my people for as long as possible. But we

1818
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 4: do fly out early Tuesday morning.

1819
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 6: Got it?

1820
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: So Thursday I had this thought that I would love

1821
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: to try to book grand Dawson either before or after

1822
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: the fight. Now, I had no idea that around the

1823
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: time I was trying to book you. On Thursday, you

1824
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: were about to do an appearance with Blah Muhammad and

1825
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: my twin brother on Remember the Show, So I apologize

1826
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: if you thought the signals were getting cross there, perhaps

1827
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: it was just the monols I got a twin thing

1828
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 1: intervening there. But making the rounds obviously and doing a

1829
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: lot of media. What are your thoughts as to what's

1830
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: going to happen once you touch down in Vegas in

1831
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: terms of everybody wanting a piece of you, you know,

1832
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: being a headliner for the first time.

1833
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 4: Well, you know, one of the blessings about being at

1834
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 4: American Top Team is that there's so many guys there

1835
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 4: with wealth of experience. And one of the first things

1836
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 4: I talked to the guys about was, Hey, what's different

1837
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 4: about being the main event? Is there anything that I

1838
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 4: should know about? Is there anything that like I should

1839
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 4: be ready other than an extra two rounds? And they

1840
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 4: were like, man, other than fight week, you got way

1841
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 4: more media to do. It's really the same, and those

1842
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 4: two rounds don't feel that bad once you actually get

1843
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 4: in there and start doing them. So I'm expecting a

1844
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 4: little bit more media. I'm expecting to be on my

1845
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 4: feet a little bit more, but I kind I kind

1846
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 4: of like that because it gets me to stop thinking

1847
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 4: about how hungry I am during fight week. So I'm

1848
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,839
Speaker 4: hoping that the media goes well and everything goes smoothly

1849
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 4: this fight week.

1850
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: So Grant Dawson has not lost in nine UFC fights

1851
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: since earning his UFC contract on season one of Dana White'

1852
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: Contender series all the way back in twenty seventeen. I

1853
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 1: was prepping for you this morning, and I was absolutely

1854
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 1: stunned to learn that you haven't fought on a numbered

1855
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: pay per view card yet. I know I've only called

1856
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: like two of your nine UFC fights, but I think

1857
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: I speak for the MMA mass is when I say

1858
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: we're excited you're getting this headlining opportunity, because I think

1859
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: it speaks to just how elite you are, even though

1860
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: maybe you haven't been showcased on pay per view as yet.

1861
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's one of the things that's

1862
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 4: kind of holding me back to the common fan, is

1863
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 4: that I haven't fought on a pay per view and

1864
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 4: fought on like econor McGregor card. And it's almost kind

1865
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 4: of weird because I've been scheduled to fight on two

1866
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 4: pay per view cards, and both times they just fell through,

1867
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 4: once because of myself and the other time because of

1868
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 4: my opponent. So it's just one of those things where

1869
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 4: it hasn't quite lined up yet. But I do think

1870
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 4: that's next. I got my first big win in the

1871
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 4: co main event in my last fight. Now I'm about

1872
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 4: to get my first big win in the main event

1873
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 4: in this fight, and I think what comes next is

1874
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 4: the main card of a pay per view.

1875
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 6: Well, Grant, I can hear the energy in your voice. Man,

1876
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 6: you seem very excited about this opportunity. What's different? What's

1877
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 6: different about your game? You think? I know you're always

1878
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 6: kind of making adjustments and changes. We've seen that over

1879
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 6: the course of your career. But what's different heading into

1880
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 6: this five round to hear against Green?

1881
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 7: I don't think there's anything really different.

1882
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 4: The preparation kind of stayed the same, other than we

1883
01:25:55,240 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 4: added two rounds. I'm a big believer in camp, you

1884
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 4: go the rounds that you have. So if I'm fighting

1885
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 4: three rounds, I'm sparring three rounds. If I'm fighting five rounds,

1886
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 4: I'm sparring five rounds. I don't like to spar five rounds.

1887
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 4: If I'm fighting for three because you start to train

1888
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 4: yourself to save your energy for the later rounds. I

1889
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 4: don't like that. If I've got five, I want to

1890
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 4: do five. If I've got three, I want to do

1891
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 4: three and then be done. So I don't think anything's

1892
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 4: really different about this about the game. I think we

1893
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 4: all know what I'm going to go in and try

1894
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 4: to do, and I think we all know what Bobby's

1895
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 4: going to go in and try to do, And it's

1896
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 4: just about who's game or I'm sorry, who is better

1897
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 4: at their game.

1898
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 6: And in regards to that, you know, there's no surprise

1899
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 6: at what Bobby's going to do in his fights. He

1900
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 6: largely fights the same way, but he is an unorthodox striker.

1901
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 6: Did you have guys who could kind of mimic that

1902
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 6: style for you in training?

1903
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1904
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 4: So, again, one of the nice things about American Top

1905
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 4: Team is there's so many guys there. We got guys

1906
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 4: that you know, you guys probably have never heard of

1907
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 4: just because they're they're on their way up and they

1908
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 4: kind of get lost in the big names of the team.

1909
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 4: But we were able to find two guys that mimicked

1910
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 4: Bobby very well. I believe I don't think you're ever

1911
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 4: going to get it one hundred percent on. But one

1912
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 4: of the other things that I really wanted to focus

1913
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 4: on was getting guys that were really good at scrambling

1914
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 4: on the ground, because on the feet, you're never going

1915
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 4: to be able to get it down one hundred percent right.

1916
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 4: But on the ground, if you get somebody that's real slippery,

1917
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 4: real athletic, and real scrambling, I think being ready for

1918
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 4: that is more important for me than being ready for

1919
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 4: for example, he holds his hands down and he talks,

1920
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 4: you know, like, I'm not worried about him talking in

1921
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 4: the cage.

1922
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 7: I'm not worried about his hands being down.

1923
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 4: I'm worried about actual physical techniques that I can prepare

1924
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Speaker 4: for and.

1925
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Speaker 6: Grant one last question. You know, I know you've been

1926
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 6: at ATT for a little while now, one of the

1927
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 6: best teams in the world. How long did it take

1928
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 6: you to kind of acclimate to their style of coaching,

1929
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 6: to kind of being around and being comfortable with them

1930
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 6: and their well.

1931
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 4: It was one of those things where so I had

1932
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 4: heard stories about American top team. I had heard people

1933
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 4: say like, oh, they don't care about you, They only

1934
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 4: care about their big guys, you're just going to be

1935
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 4: a training partner. And so going in to the team,

1936
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 4: that is what I was expecting. I was like, it's

1937
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 4: going to take me a couple of years to get

1938
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 4: the coaches to notice me. I might be a little

1939
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 4: bit ahead of the game because I'm in the UFC,

1940
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 4: but I wasn't ranked at the time and I was

1941
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 4: coming off of a draw, so it wasn't like I

1942
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 4: was this big thing.

1943
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 7: Immediately when I walked.

1944
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 4: Through the doors, Mike Brown Chicago Alvez took me under

1945
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 4: their wing. And I'm talking like the same day that

1946
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 4: I walked through those doors, they grabbed me. They wanted

1947
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 4: to work with me. I told them I wanted to

1948
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 4: work with them, and it just it was a perfect fit.

1949
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 4: The biggest thing that I had to get used to

1950
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 4: was getting my ass kicked every single day because I

1951
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 4: went from a gym where I got submitted one time

1952
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 4: in an entire calendar year two. I stopped keeping track

1953
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 4: because I got submitted like forty five times in the

1954
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 4: first like three months. It was just a huge ego

1955
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 4: check and it's definitely what I needed, and I definitely

1956
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 4: think that that is what is making my game go

1957
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 4: to the next level. The last fight you saw against

1958
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 4: Demir was my best performance by far, and I true

1959
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 4: I'm not just saying this to sell the fight.

1960
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 7: I truly believe.

1961
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 4: That I am a much better fighter now than I

1962
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 4: was in that fight.

1963
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 1: Grant Dawson with us here on the End Camp Florian podcast.

1964
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: It's interesting to hear you harken back to walking into

1965
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 1: those doors in Coconut Creek, Florida at the famed American

1966
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: Top Team and suggest that maybe you're not the next

1967
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: big thing, because you kind of were that. I know

1968
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: you're sort of rooted in humility, but you were James

1969
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Krause's star pupil, and it was big news when you

1970
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: went to American Top Team because sure, you didn't have

1971
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: a number next to your name in what is ubiquitously

1972
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: regarded in my mind as the best UFC division, but

1973
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people felt like the ceiling was world champion.

1974
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 1: And I'm not surprised that their highest profile coaching tandem,

1975
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 1: Mike Brown and Thiago Alvez sunk their teeth into you

1976
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: right away. So I do think you're being a little

1977
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 1: bit humble there, Grant. But it's really cool to hear

1978
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: you talk about the progression, And I'm curious though in

1979
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: terms of that decision, right, like who was the runner

1980
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: up for Grant Dawson when American Top Team sort of

1981
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 1: won in terms of the sweepstakes, if I can call

1982
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: them that.

1983
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 4: So So, I've actually got a story behind it, and

1984
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 4: it's not a crazy story, but it is kind of

1985
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:28,799
Speaker 4: a cool story. We my wife and I were driving

1986
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 4: to Tim Elliott's birthday party and we were driving there

1987
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 4: and we were literally having a conversation about how much

1988
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 4: we you know, we had just bought a house, how

1989
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 4: long we were going to live in Missouri, about raising

1990
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 4: our kids in Missouri, and like do we want to

1991
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 4: stay in this house and stuff like that, and how

1992
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,480
Speaker 4: much we loved our gym at Gloriam and Man Fitness.

1993
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 4: We get to the party parties going on, Tim Elliott's

1994
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 4: wife at the time pulled us aside right as we

1995
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 4: were leaving, and she was like, Hey, I have a

1996
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 4: favor to ask. Tim's got this really big fight coming up,

1997
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 4: and we kind of want obviously James is still the

1998
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 4: head coach, but we kind of wanted you to take

1999
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 4: him under your wing and like really help him out

2000
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 4: with his jiu jitsu and his wrestling and maybe coach

2001
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 4: him a couple of times a week. And I was like, yeah,

2002
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 4: like maybe, let me think about it. And we're driving

2003
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 4: home and I talked to my wife and I was like,

2004
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to be a coach. Like I'm falling

2005
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 4: into this role where I'm the coach. I'm the guy

2006
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 4: that people are going to. I'm kind of the glue

2007
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 4: that's holding this team together. Outside of James, of course,

2008
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 4: I'm kind of the glue holding this team together. And

2009
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 4: I don't want that. I want to be Grant the

2010
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 4: world champion, not Grant the high level assistant coach.

2011
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 7: And so we got to talking.

2012
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 4: We went on a walk, and this was right after

2013
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 4: I came off of a draw to Ricky Glenn and

2014
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 4: we were like, we have to move, don't we Like

2015
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 4: we have to go somewhere else. And she was like, yeah,

2016
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 4: I think we need to pack up everything and move.

2017
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 4: So we sat down that night and you know, we

2018
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,719
Speaker 4: prayed about it. We were like, look, God, Universe, whatever

2019
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 4: you want to call it, like, just send us a

2020
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,759
Speaker 4: sign on where we're supposed to go. Anything, literally anything.

2021
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 4: My eyes are open the next day. I'm not making

2022
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 4: this up. The very next day it was Monday morning.

2023
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 4: Johnny Eblin, who hadn't been at that gym in over

2024
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 4: a year and I hadn't talked to him in about

2025
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 4: nine months, walks into the gym. He was just there

2026
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 4: visiting family for some reason. Walks into the gym and

2027
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 4: joins practice and I was like, Okay, this is a sign.

2028
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 7: I'm supposed to go to ATT. Like this is a thing.

2029
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 4: So I sat down with Johnny Eblin. We talked at

2030
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 4: the gym for a little bit. My wife and I

2031
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 4: took him out to lunch and we talked for like

2032
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 4: four or five hours, and he was like, yeah, come

2033
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 4: come check out ATT. So I go to ATT. I

2034
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 4: check it out for a week. The first day I

2035
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 4: loved it. I was like, this is it. We're moving.

2036
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 4: Me and Johnny are going for a walk, and I

2037
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm

2038
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna get an airbnb. I'm gonna rent out.

2039
01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm gonna do with my house.

2040
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 4: I'm just to get an airbnb and I'll just I'll

2041
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 4: be down here in a month. And he was like, bro,

2042
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 4: don't get an airbnb, just come live with me and

2043
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 4: I was like, dude, I got my wife, my two dogs,

2044
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,719
Speaker 4: and my friend at the time was moving with me too,

2045
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 4: Like you don't want all of us in your house

2046
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 4: like that. He's like, no, no, no, no, don't even

2047
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 4: worry about it. Come live with me until you get

2048
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 4: on your feet. So we moved in with him for

2049
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 4: like three months. Who found our own place Like this

2050
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 4: would not have been as easy of a transition if

2051
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 4: it wasn't for Johnny Evlin. That was just one of

2052
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 4: the best blessings.

2053
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,560
Speaker 7: I think we had.

2054
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: Such a fascinating story. And of course the first part

2055
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: of it rooted in just all your own self confidence

2056
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,600
Speaker 1: and belief in yourself as a world champion. And I

2057
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: think that was and I know Kenny agrees without even

2058
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 1: saying it, like tremendously smart pivot by you, because there

2059
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 1: will certainly come a time when you can offer up

2060
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: your services and be a great coach, But that time,

2061
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: on equivocally is not now. A couple more minutes here

2062
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: with brand Dawson. I know you got church here coming

2063
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: up in an hour, so we very much appreciate you.

2064
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,560
Speaker 1: On a Sunday morning, So do you claim no Nebraska, Wisconsin?

2065
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: Like what state do you claim.

2066
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 4: I mean right now, I'm Florida through and through. I'm

2067
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 4: absolutely Florida. My family still lives in Nebraska. Yeah, so

2068
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 4: you know that I'll always be rooted as that small

2069
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 4: town Nebraska kid. I grew up in a very, very

2070
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 4: small town. There was like twelve hundred people in the town.

2071
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 4: There were twenty six kids in my graduating class. So

2072
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 4: I'm always going to be the small town kid. But

2073
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 4: right now, I absolutely love Florida. I love the politics here,

2074
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 4: I love the weather here, I love the people here.

2075
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 4: I love everything about Florida right now. So I'm Florida man.

2076
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: And I don't live far from you. So we got

2077
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: to get a cup of coffee at some point or

2078
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: break red on the other side of this fight before

2079
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: we let you go. And by the way, I was

2080
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: doing a search this morning, ken Flow like the best

2081
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: fighter from each state, right and for Wisconsin. This was

2082
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: actually a list from twenty twelve. Jake Ellenberger was Nebraska,

2083
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Showtime Pettis was Wisconsin. But I do believe that

2084
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: Grant Dawson will go down as the greatest fighter out

2085
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: of the state Rascoe, when all was said and done,

2086
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 1: I really do believe that but before I let you go,

2087
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 1: if my research is accurate, it seems like maybe American

2088
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 1: football was the initial dream before you switch to wrestling

2089
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: and eventually MMA.

2090
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 3: Is that right?

2091
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's hilarious that that was even the thing.

2092
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 7: I was a young, stupid kid and all that. Well,

2093
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 7: it was my dad, really.

2094
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 4: My dad loved the Green Bay Packers because we're originally

2095
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 4: from Wisconsin. I grew up in Nebraska, but he's from Wisconsin,

2096
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 4: so he loved the Packers. So I absolutely loved watching

2097
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 4: the Packers play every Sunday with my dad. And I

2098
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 4: was like, I want to be an athlete. Like school

2099
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 4: just kind of isn't working out for me because I

2100
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 4: was dyslexic and it was really really difficult for me.

2101
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 7: And I was like, I want to be a pro

2102
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 7: football player.

2103
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 4: So in high school and middle school I tried to play,

2104
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 4: and I got to play throughout my entire career.

2105
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,879
Speaker 7: I got to play two.

2106
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 4: Plays in an actual game, and I was just like, dude,

2107
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 4: why am I working so hard at this to not play?

2108
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 4: And that's not on my coaches. I was terrible. I

2109
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 4: was an awful player. Like I wouldn't have put me

2110
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 4: in either, you know if I was the coach, and

2111
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 4: my son was as bad as I was.

2112
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 7: I'd tell him to be a water boy, like no way.

2113
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, I'm going to

2114
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 4: wrestle because at least in wrestling I get to compete,

2115
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 4: I get to actually do it. I didn't even really

2116
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 4: enjoy wrestling as much as I do now, obviously, but

2117
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,799
Speaker 4: I like, you know what, I'm going to do wrestling

2118
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 4: because at least I get to.

2119
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 7: Compete in it.

2120
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 4: And then I found MMA and I was like, holy crap,

2121
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 4: this is what I was meant to do. I mean,

2122
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I saw one MMA fight and it

2123
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 4: was like a light bulb just went off in my

2124
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 4: head that I was put on earth to do this.

2125
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 7: And I wasn't just put on earth to do it.

2126
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 4: I was put on earth to do it to the

2127
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,799
Speaker 4: best of my ability and to become a UFC World champion.

2128
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 4: That has been the goal since day one, and I

2129
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 4: have stood by it.

2130
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: You look like when you talk like one, and certainly

2131
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: when I was watching you against Amrs Macgoolah back in July,

2132
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: you look like you were a man meant to do

2133
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 1: mixed martial arts at a high level. Hey, before I

2134
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 1: let you go. Your wife El Dawson is also a

2135
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: mixed martial arts athlete as well, Is that right?

2136
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, So she just got signed to in Victa as well,

2137
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 4: so we're happy to get her.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: We're looking to get her lined up hopefully at the

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Speaker 4: end of December, so I'm fighting in a week and

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Speaker 4: then we're just going to turn right around and get

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Speaker 4: her in camp and just do everything we can to

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Speaker 4: prepare her for her first big Invicta fight.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. Well, first things first, Grant kg ed Dawson fights

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Speaker 1: Bobby Green in the UFC Fightight Made event. It is

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Speaker 1: this Saturday. You get see it live on ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 1: If you want to follow this man on Instagram, it

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Speaker 1: is at Grant Dawson k g D. My man, very

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Speaker 1: much appreciate you squeezing us in. Have a great fight week.

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Speaker 1: We will certainly be watching here at home. And dude,

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Speaker 1: got to get you on a numbered card here. Got

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Speaker 1: to get Joe Rogan's pipes on one of the Grand

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Speaker 1: Dawson fights at some point.

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Speaker 4: What are we doing, right, It's going to happen, man.

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Speaker 4: First things first, I got to take out the King

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Speaker 4: and then to that we'll talk about what's next.

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Speaker 1: All right, buddy, we appreciate you. Enjoy church and we'll talk.

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Speaker 6: To you soon.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Figurat There he is Grant Dawson with us here on

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Speaker 1: the Anakin Florian podcast. Gosh Man looks the part, talks

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Speaker 1: the part Really good dude, and some interesting stories too,

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Speaker 1: especially when it comes to that Tim Elliott coaching opportunity

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Speaker 1: and having the understanding and the recognition of what he

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Speaker 1: needed to do at that point critical point of his

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like a good kid man, and I agree.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think that you know, there is certainly

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Speaker 6: or it was for me to have a spiritual component

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Speaker 6: to what you do, and I think that that is

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Speaker 6: very important. Those are the things that are kind of

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Speaker 6: going to drive you a little bit more and also

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Speaker 6: help you during the tough times which you will inevitably experience.

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Speaker 6: And you know, they call the stomach the second brain,

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Speaker 6: for me, it really is the first brain. You got

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Speaker 6: to follow that gut. It's what he did when he

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Speaker 6: said he saw that light bulb go on when he

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Speaker 6: saw his first MMA fight, and he's been trusting that

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Speaker 6: gut all along and it's served him very well so far.

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Speaker 1: There are a handful of other elite lightweights at American

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Speaker 1: top teams, certainly Dustin Poorer chief among them. Perhaps his

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Speaker 1: next fight will be at welterweight Mattauje Gamrod obviously after

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Speaker 1: the win over Rafael Phazebe, he's not gonna fight Grant Dawson.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna fight those guys unless it's for a world title, presumably,

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Speaker 1: But I do think that Grant Dawson could make a

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Speaker 1: run here. He's obviously a big favorite this weekend against

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Speaker 1: Bobby Green, but he certainly has gone about everything the

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Speaker 1: right way up to this point, and we're very excited

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Speaker 1: to see his progression. All Right, we got to go

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Speaker 1: watch some football. Thank you to our guest Grant Dawson, Raymond,

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Speaker 1: back next Monday as the UFC train keeps on rolling,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see if Grant Dawson can get it done

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