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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: Is this this morning column?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? You hear that sound? You know what to expect?

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Speaker 3: Are by the bushels? All right? This is Morning Combat,

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Speaker 3: the best damn combat sports show period. We have many

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Speaker 3: is the million dollar question. Hey you're looking at me right,

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Speaker 3: I'm on that beige guy with a big attitude and

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Speaker 3: one day. Brian Campbell, thank you for populating my show. No,

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Speaker 3: this isn't my only pipes channel cameo dot com slash

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Speaker 3: Brian Campbell. But scam that all you want? Just the

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Speaker 3: same My partner in crime though, no stranger to scams.

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Speaker 3: Every Thursday afternoon, It'sluke Thomas, Luke, how the hell are

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Speaker 2: never gets old. Actually I'm I'm I'm liking that bit

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Speaker 2: mood today. You know why because it's hail to the commander.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeahal big Dorry on the war path.

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Speaker 3: Redskins Jack, the Redskins got an injection of magic over overnight. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think about that, Luke? What

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Speaker 3: are you magic? Johnson and Company taking the multi billion

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Speaker 2: Also, BC, one of the one of the minority owners

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Speaker 2: A championship? BC? I gotta tell you, it feels like

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Speaker 2: we're the city of champions again, my friend. This feels

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Speaker 3: Wow. Now, did you call that other Colombian owner or a

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Speaker 2: No, he actually owns a small minority stake. There's like

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Speaker 3: So did Dan Snyder. Yeah, oh no, he's gone all right,

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Speaker 3: Luke Friday, July twenty first, right here, two thousand and

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Speaker 3: it'll it'll give your flashbacks to the junior prom for sure.

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Speaker 3: But Luke Thomas, what I'm trying to tell you is

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Speaker 3: Throughout all that un certainty, Luke about the future, there

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, BC, you should know that I

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be live two hours MK on National TV

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Speaker 2: the biggest boxing match in about a decade. BC, I

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Speaker 3: It It got very methy yesterday Luke and I and

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Speaker 3: middleweight now full time. I still again do not understand

428
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 3: what really happened on I'm sorry on Jamaia of missing

429
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 3: weight that badly in the build up to the Nate

430
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 3: ds fight, and then he took care of Holland last minute.

431
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 3: But he's been awful while he's back. Luke. We echoed

432
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 3: this on Wednesday, addressing the rumors. But let's say it again.

433
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 3: This has action written all over it, and I think

434
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 3: it's the right fight for both guys. I'm fired the

435
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 3: hell up.

436
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: I love it. Costa currently sitting at seven, there's consideration like, hey,

437
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: what if Hamsa wins, what does that mean? Does it

438
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: mean title shot? It almost certainly could listen to this.

439
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: Sitting at number one. Is dricis now again he's injured.

440
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 2: We'll see how long it takes for him to come back.

441
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 2: Obviously he's got probably got the feeling that he's gotten next.

442
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: But then it's Pareta who's no longer in the division, Whittaker,

443
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: he just lost. Kennan here is certainly coming off of

444
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 2: some wins, but I don't know that he is like

445
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: fully claimed his stake to a title shot yet. Then

446
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: there's Marvin not nowhere close, even though he's sitting at five,

447
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: strickling sitting at six. He might get it next, so

448
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 2: that he's not really even in the equation. And then

449
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 2: it's Costa. So is it like a guaranteed title shot

450
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: if Hamzai wins? No? But I mean, this is what

451
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: I love about this fight. Hamzad has no wins over

452
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 2: any ranked fighter in the middleweight division. But of course

453
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: none of us really believe that that's really a true

454
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: reflection of how ultimately how good he is, And so

455
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: the question becomes, well, how good is he? I'm not

456
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 2: telling you that Paulo Costa is the perfect measurement for this,

457
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: but he's a pretty good one. He's a pretty good

458
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: one physical for the weight class, big experienced heavy puncher,

459
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: I would say, decent to good takedown defense, which will

460
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: become relevant certainly, much more experienced against elite competition in

461
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: this weight class, I would argue, a little bit more

462
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 2: battle tested, although the fight with Gilbert Burns was a

463
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 2: pretty testing battle in the end. You get my point.

464
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: You will learn a lot about Paulo co excuse me,

465
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 2: you will learn a lot about Hamzat Chimaia as a

466
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: middleweight performer in this contest, if for no other reason

467
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: of the size of Paulo Costa. And someone might say,

468
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: what if he goes in there and just one punch

469
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 2: KOs I'm like, he did what's the other miershark like

470
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: he did against Gerald Meershart. Fine, Let's see him do

471
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: that against Paulo Costa, because that would tell you, like

472
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: what this is powercarry to that weight class in a

473
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 2: way that matters against the top guy who has been

474
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: to our point, battle tested due that would be incredible.

475
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: Or he loses and we say, you know what, maybe

476
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: he needs to go back to welter. Wait either way, dude,

477
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: I love this contest to your point, they got the beef,

478
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: they got the story, they got the footage of them

479
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: having beef in the performance Institute in Las Vegas. What

480
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 2: is there one more time, I'm going to say it,

481
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: what is there not to like about this contest? It's

482
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: an awesome, awesome fight.

483
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: I pushed back just a bit and say the combination

484
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: of the Meyer Sharp fight and the Holland fight, the

485
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: Holland fight becoming a middleweight fight after the weight miss,

486
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: I mean it gives us some level of indication on

487
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 3: how Hamzap may be able to handle himself as a

488
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: one to eighty five er.

489
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: And not against top guys, true, but.

490
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 3: Against guys of the pulse for sure. And boy did

491
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 3: he knock the stuffing out of both and take care

492
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: of it now. Luke on the flip side here, although

493
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: Costa always brings action, and I gotta say him leaning

494
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 3: so heavily into the secret juice gimmick over the last

495
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: couple of years has really made him not only so

496
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: much more endearing, but it's kind of replace, you know,

497
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: erased over the bad feelings we had in the mouth

498
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 3: after his stoppage lost out of Sonia, and how ill

499
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: prepared he seemed to be, particularly mentally, and then their

500
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 3: whole red Wine story and all that just just weird.

501
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: But Luke, He's only fought four times in the last

502
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 3: four years, and they could not be four weirder pieces

503
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: of information to try to figure out exactly where he's at.

504
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: Those fights include that incredible brawl in twenty nineteen with

505
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: Joel Romero UFC two forty one, that is, you know,

506
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that's one of the best first rounds in history.

507
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 3: You can put that fight on anytime. But then the

508
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: weird fight without Asania, the decision lost to a tory

509
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: where he kind of left stuff on the table and

510
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 3: fought recklessly, and then the weird ass comeback victory. This

511
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 3: passed August over Luke Rockold four fights in four years,

512
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 3: there's been weirdness surrounding him. Do you think this leads

513
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 3: to I don't know where the odds are right now,

514
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: and I'd love to talk about them if we can

515
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: grab them quickly. But do you think this has led

516
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 3: to an overall like downgrade in what we where we

517
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 3: look at Coast as stock to be entering this fight.

518
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, like when he

519
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: was like after he beat Johnny Hendrix, people were like,

520
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: whoa this dude? I mean even Hendri was you know,

521
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: quite literally on his last legs at that point in

522
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: his MMA and UFC career, and we were still like, damn,

523
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: he just he just burned right through that guy, Like

524
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: that's incredible. And then he's had, you know, obviously losing

525
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: the way he did to Izzy hurt his stock and

526
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: the other ones. You've pointed out that Romero fight was controversial,

527
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: but like the Romero fight was a true he proved

528
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: he was a savage, but I don't know if he

529
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: proved he was better. There's I thought Rameiro won that contest.

530
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: And then again following that, the Luke Rockhall fight was

531
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: just absolutely bizarre in both directions.

532
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: Fights have been bizarre. All four of those fights I

533
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 3: mentioned have been bizarre in odd different ways.

534
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, in different ways. And that's the weird part about

535
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: it too. There's not really the only thing, the only

536
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: common denominator has been that they're just weird. But they've

537
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: been weird in different directions, you know, like they just

538
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: this dude just courts madness in ways that's hard to explain.

539
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: So I guess I would say like he's got some

540
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: proving to do. And this is why, like the title

541
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: shot thing, It's like, if Hamsa goes in there and

542
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: blows the doors off this guy, he probably will get

543
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: a title shot. The passion at that point would be

544
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: too strong. If he struggles against him. I don't think

545
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: that's the end of the world, but it would be

546
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: yet a further display of weirdness in the career of

547
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: Paulo Costa. So in some ways, this is what I mentioned.

548
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: Is he the perfect suitor for this moment in time

549
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: for Costa excuse me for tremaiev No, But with Tremiah's

550
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 2: time off, with what we do know about what it

551
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: means to be Paula Costa, there's still plenty there to

552
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: be excited about, and either guy has an opportunity, frankly,

553
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: to prove a lot about maybe some of the questions

554
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: that both of them still have, albeit different questions for

555
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: different guys.

556
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: No question. I love this card. The updated odds from DraftKings.

557
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: Luke on this just announced fight TREMAIAHV minus three p

558
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: sixty Costa plus twot eighty.

559
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: Ooh.

560
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: I actually kind of like that because Luke, I do

561
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 3: look at this for all the questions to both fighters.

562
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 3: Oddly enough, I think TREMAIAV has less than Costa has

563
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: in this spot, and you could you could say that's

564
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: crazy because Coast is so much more established in this division.

565
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: But for everything we just talked about, I'm not really

566
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: Look the thing about Costa is now he's had a

567
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: lot of time off in between. I don't think he's

568
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: you know, physically damaged or anything like that. I just

569
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: questioned his true care and focus, Like I don't think

570
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: he carries out game plans like he should to utililize

571
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: his talent's best. I think he just kind of settles

572
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: into a brawl and he's okay with it. Costa, Yeah,

573
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: I do. I mean I think the A Tory fight

574
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: showed that. I think even to some degree, the rock

575
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: Hold fight showed some some gaps in his game. I mean,

576
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 3: you know, rock Hold turned that into a really weird,

577
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: really weird fight. Luke to be fair across the board.

578
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: But I mean, if you go back to the Gilbert

579
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: Burns fight, can you really say Shamaiyah sticks to game plans?

580
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 3: No, They're okay. That's a great comeback because you have

581
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: that as a question mark. You got the weird weight

582
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: situation with Nate as a question mark, right, maybe because

583
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: when he did step in against Holland, he dude, he

584
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: just like I mean, he just eviscerated him. So I'm

585
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: gonna say I think Vegas has it right even if

586
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: my three sixty Jamaya feels aggressive. We got questions about Costa,

587
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: but hey, this is the ultimate fight. For all the

588
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: talk we're saying, is Jamaya go right from here to Izzy.

589
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: With a win, Costa would very very much be an

590
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 3: attractive player. Once again, I mean if it ended up,

591
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 3: if we ever ended up with at Asania Costa to Luke,

592
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: I think it's actually one that you could not only sell,

593
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: but you can sell well because you can talk about

594
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 3: the weirdness of that first fight and almost the aberration.

595
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 3: I mean, Costa came out and would you say, is

596
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: it fair to say that Costa came out and laid

597
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: an egg that wasn't more extreme than the ones laid

598
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: by God versus John Jones or Al Donna versus Nunez.

599
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: But Spider Man mean meme not too far away, Luke.

600
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: Like on that level. The thing is is like we

601
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: forget that Costa has to an extent redeemed himself since

602
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: then Al Donna has not, you know, so there's a

603
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: little bit there's some differences there. But yeah, that was

604
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: pretty bad, dude. I mean again, getting back to the

605
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: Islam and Charles conversation. If you're Izzy, it's like, dude,

606
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: why on earth would you want to fight this guy again?

607
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, how is it gonna

608
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: look better than the first time you did it? It's

609
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: just probably not right. It's probably not gonna be any

610
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: easier than the first time that they competed. Uh. Sort

611
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: of goes back to this conversation again about whether is

612
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: he should have moved to two oh five at this point?

613
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: But neither here nor there. I will say this though,

614
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: this is the weird part about Costa for me, BC,

615
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say he has fallen off because I

616
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: don't think that's true in many ways, like in terms

617
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: of like his social media presence, He's as relevant as

618
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: ever and I think well liked by a big portion

619
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: of the fan base, But I don't know if he's

620
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: gotten better, you know what I mean, like like from

621
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: him just going through and then destroying guys to where

622
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: we are now. I don't think he's gotten worse, but

623
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: I can't say he's gotten like he's made dramatic improvements

624
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: since the fight to Izzy. Can you really say you've

625
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: looked at his game and like, wow, it's like night

626
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: and day. I just don't feel like you can do that.

627
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: No, No, you can't. Man. I love this fight though.

628
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: Look I think if I you package these main and

629
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: co manes together and asked me for a grade, I

630
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: mean A minus feels right. It's about right.

631
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: A minus. Yeah, I mean if you couldn't, you couldn't

632
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: give this a B. It would be unfair. It would

633
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: be unfair.

634
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: It's this is fantastic business two ninety one. We'll see

635
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: it coming up in the two four two ninety four.

636
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I'm all over the place. We will see that, Luke,

637
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: October twenty first, in Abu Dhabi. I don't expect to

638
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: see you there though. I don't expect.

639
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: No, No, I'll skip that one.

640
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: Maybe you could fly to Saudi for the Anganu fight

641
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: and just stay and just stay in that area of

642
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: the world for for a while.

643
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: Luke, my dad lived in Saudi Arabia for a while.

644
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: He he was like, yeah, you're not missing much.

645
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, well, you know I wouldn't

646
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: say all right, Luke speaking of adas Soynya. By the way,

647
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: he did pronounce himself in that Sunday conversation on barstool

648
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: a dis onya. He did that again. He he third

649
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: personed himself a dys onya.

650
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: Luke.

651
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: Well, here's a dsaya from is he topic number three?

652
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: Luke his next title defense. Hey, it doesn't look like

653
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: it's gonna be d D after all. Autosania jumped to

654
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: the social webs and put out his own video attacking DDP,

655
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: but also talking about maybe a spin off to a

656
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: new opponent. Let's listen in from the champ.

657
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: Maybe not his spot this, but Kadikas dip Oh I

658
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: only had to do. I was ready to go again,

659
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: now you weren't. That's why I'm not taking this fight.

660
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 4: Good footsore, my knee was jack choose from my last fight.

661
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: I guess what I did.

662
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: I showed up because that's what a champion does.

663
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: Championship caliber.

664
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: Built different. What do you fighters talk about?

665
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: I'll fight anyone, anyway, anytime.

666
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: No you won't.

667
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 5: I do, Alex s Bolkanowski does. We're built different. I'm

668
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 5: at the gym right now, about to get some work.

669
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 5: So I'm fighting in city on your dicklass. You're out Strickland.

670
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 5: You're in due to man Dance Show how to Really Dance? Yeah,

671
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 5: well yeah, I just I titled while you guys talking,

672
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: I can fight.

673
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: I can fight.

674
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 5: No you can't.

675
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: So Luke Dicklis apparently is out with an injury. Aeriel

676
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: Hlwane confirming this on the twitters. Let's go to that

677
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: right now, Luke. According to Helwani's reporting, it's not quite

678
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: official but pretty close at this point that DDP won't

679
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: be able to fight at two ninety three in September

680
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: in Sydney against Audasanya. He was banged up going into

681
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: the Whitaker fight. That turnaround is just too soon, I'm told.

682
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: And if that ends up being the case, and is

683
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: he stays on the card, which is his desire, and

684
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: you just heard him say it, it'll be out of

685
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: Sonya versus Sean Strickland September ninth for the title Luke

686
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: a little bit of a switcheroo, understandable given the injury here.

687
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: Separate from the Dicklass comments, how do you like this

688
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: as the next potential challenge for the stylebender boy?

689
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you that a boost Mega Madoff fight

690
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: was a gift to Sean Strickland, a gift, A big

691
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: gift because he kind of looked the part. I mean,

692
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: he sort of mega made off. He kind of looks

693
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: the part, and early on, you know, he is a guy.

694
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: In that first round, I mean, you have all the

695
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: jokes were like, well that's all he's got, But okay,

696
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: in that first round he is a handful. But he

697
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: was tailor made for Sean Strickland. Shawan Strickland is battle tested,

698
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: he is built to go the distance, he has fantastic

699
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: cardio and obviously he is a skilled fighter. And then

700
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: he goes in there and gets not only a win,

701
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: but he gets a finish over the guy. So he's

702
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: got this budding popularity by just being this sort of

703
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: very public edge lord, which may or may not be

704
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: of interest to you. But on top of that, he

705
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: is a skilled middleweight fighter. He is. He is begging

706
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: for fresh contenders. So in many ways it makes sense

707
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: these guys go into fights banged up. They always say

708
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: to themselves, I'm going to go in and then who's

709
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: the fight's over. I'm gonna get healed up. But you know,

710
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: the UFC just constantly churns. This is what I mean,

711
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: like the most important thing you can do for the

712
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: UFC as a fighter. I genuinely mean this is just

713
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: be ready and say yes, like they want to keep

714
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: the machinery moving as often and as fast and as

715
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: seamlessly as possible. And BC, when you think about it,

716
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: who are two guys who are very good at keeping

717
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: the machinery moving and helping the UFC in ways large

718
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: and small. Sean Strickland and Isy Isy his a level

719
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: of I wish I should say his frequency of competition

720
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: is very high. I remember that one time he fought

721
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: like six times almost in a calendar year, some absurd

722
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: amount for the UFC, just constantly fighting. McGregor did the

723
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: same thing early on in his tenure. Sean Strickland happy

724
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: to take these main events that no one else cares

725
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 2: about at the Apex against fighters good or bad, whatever

726
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: kind of condition filling in on short notice doesn't care.

727
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: These are guys who stay ready and over time, through

728
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: their own achievements, but also through UFC favoritism by virtue

729
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: of what they have done for the organization, they end

730
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: up in pretty good spots at the end of the day.

731
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: That's really what this means. You're asking what do I

732
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: think about the fight? I mean, is there Listen, you know,

733
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: I do respect Sean Strickland as a fighter, very much so,

734
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: and we have had his coach on this show innumerable times,

735
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 2: in Eric Nixon. I couldn't say more nice things about

736
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: Eric Nixon, and I think I'll get Sean Strickland as

737
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: ready as he could be. But candidly, what do I

738
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: really see that he has over is he? I just

739
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: don't know what that would be. If I'm just leveling

740
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: with you.

741
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, deep rooted craziness, Luke and grow and some gross stick.

742
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: He's got some craziness too.

743
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: The point across the board, I will say this, I've

744
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: not been a huge fan of Strickland stick, and I

745
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: think he'll He'll rightfully be a big underdog in this fight,

746
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: so it's a tough style matchup for him. I'm not

747
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: gonna argue against does he deserve it? Even though the

748
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: abous win was a setup, Well, he still got it done,

749
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: Luke against the guy who we weren't exactly sure what

750
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: we had there. I will say this though, as much

751
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: as I don't like strickland shtick because some of it

752
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: is purposely out of bounds, but it's ridiculously out of bounds.

753
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 3: I mean, especially Luke the way he talks two female

754
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: interviewers while being inter with that said, probably gonna be

755
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: a fun build It's probably gonna be comical, ridiculous, over

756
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: the top, And I think is he wants this? That's

757
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: why I think from the beginning is he seemed to

758
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: remember at the press conference they were both at when

759
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: Strickland was gonna fight Poeton on the same night. And

760
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: he wants this, Luke. Maybe part of it is he

761
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: looks at it as a guy he should be handily,

762
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: but I think he loves this type of crazy build up.

763
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: Speaking of crazy build ups and DDP Luke, I won't

764
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: call him dick list, Okay. He appeared on the Cameron

765
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: Simon YouTube channel and was asked about is he and

766
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: basically said, I don't want to be a part of this.

767
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: That's why I walked away with all those racial stirs

768
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 3: and stuff. It was unprofessional. He would go on to

769
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 3: further say, is he was drunk? I guess, I hope.

770
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: So for his part, the UFC brass was just like,

771
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: is this a good idea for us to face off?

772
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: But I needed to get out of there. I needed

773
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: him to feel my energy. But he basically said all

774
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: that other stuff, Luke, the N word drops. That's not

775
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: been a part of who he is and that's not

776
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 3: what he's trying to bring to this fight. So those

777
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 3: that's the official reaction, Luke from the old Diamond Dallas

778
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: one there, uh is? Do you think, Luke all right?

779
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: Do you think DDP i isy happens first quarter of

780
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: next year? And do you think that the race plays

781
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: a big part in it and that it will most

782
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: likely be Izzy who's continuing that lane on there?

783
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: Yes, they will happen first quarter of twenty twenty four.

784
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: Hard to say after Sean Strickland gets through them, you

785
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like Sean might take all the

786
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: bandwidth I don't even know, and not even like in

787
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: a directly you know, racial way, just by being an

788
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: edge lord, just by being the guy who's like constantly

789
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: pushing buttons. He might he might take all the appetite

790
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: out of Izzy for that one by the time Dricks

791
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: comes around, you know. But there I just feel like

792
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: this racial or otherwise this kind of African identity thing,

793
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna go away by itself, even

794
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: after the fight. I don't think it's gonna.

795
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: Go well, look at so you know. The thing you

796
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: could say about is he is he's sort of always

797
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: been floating in and out I don't want to say

798
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: in and out of good graces, but he's always been

799
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: true to himself as a public figure, like whatever comes

800
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: with that, right, And what I say is like, do

801
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 3: you remember when he had that big close up against

802
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: Brunson at Madison Square Garden. You remember that pay per

803
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: view Right afterwards, he was like the darling of the

804
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: press conference before Dana came out because it was a

805
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: big win. He was charismatic, he was talking junk. But

806
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: I remember even in that Luke he was going down

807
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: some lanes that I'm thinking to myself, UFC is not

808
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: gonna like some of these lanes he's going down in

809
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: the way he's talking about the promotion, his relationship to

810
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: them and all that. I mean, you know, Saggie nipples

811
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: or not. Luke, he's kind of he's kind of always

812
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: been who he is, and he's a little weird. It's

813
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: a weird dude.

814
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: He's always been a little bit weird. Actually, that night

815
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: I spoke to him privately, so he I think it

816
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: was where was it was? It was after his comments

817
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 2: because were they were. This was at Masson Square Garden

818
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: and they were giving out pizza and beer to the media.

819
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: Shouts at UFC for doing that. You know, yeah, Gary

820
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: Shaw gave his chocolate chip cookies and hot dogs. I

821
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: just want to point that out. You know, Dana comes

822
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 2: correct with the beer.

823
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: While wearing a sweatsuit.

824
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: Gary Shaw, well, wearing a tracksuit, just looking like the

825
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: worst man on earth. Dana was much better about it.

826
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: But the point being is he was back there and

827
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: we were talking a little bit and dude, he's I

828
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: don't know how to explain it is he is very

829
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: much and not in a bad way actually, like he's

830
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 2: kind of got the right mental makeup for this career path.

831
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: He's in his own little world. He's in his own

832
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: little world. He spends his time in his own little

833
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 2: world mentally. He lets certain people in at certain times,

834
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: but he doesn't it looks stimulate. He tries to not

835
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: corrupt that little And when I say bubble, I don't

836
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: mean like, oh, protective, safe space. I don't mean it

837
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: that way. I mean like, like he this is the

838
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: thing that elevates him, this is the thing that makes

839
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: him unique, This is the thing that makes him thoughtful

840
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: and work through problems and blah blah blah. It's got

841
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: his own little bubble he sits in and until you've

842
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: really sat with him and talk with him, you don't.

843
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: You can see it on the media stuff, but you

844
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: really see it in person. I got the first glimpse

845
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: of it that night, so not surprised. Things have Like

846
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: sometimes he comes out and says stuff that I don't

847
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: agree with her, I don't like, but you just have

848
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: to go back and be like he is. I mean,

849
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: very rarely, very rarely do you actually see someone mentally

850
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: work through the world in a very different way, for

851
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: better or for worse. And is he's that guy?

852
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: Did anyone win that face off? Separate from all the

853
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 3: spinoff debate we had over was that injected by Ray

854
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: shouldn't have been? Was Izzy justified? Was Izzy? Did he

855
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 3: go way too far? Like I thought he did? Luke,

856
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: do you think anyone actually won that face off? Did

857
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: it actually? UFC? All right, that's fair, that's fair.

858
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: You'll see one there. I mean due, they're gonna use

859
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: it again, and they can take whatever part they want

860
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: from it, like here's for let me, let me make

861
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: a public declaration. And of course I don't know what

862
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna use. But if I just putting my producer

863
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: hat on at times BC, because you know, I do

864
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: have producer credits on this show, which you have forgotten about.

865
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: But if I may, so has everybody else who runs

866
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: the show apparently, Luke, just so you.

867
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: Know, if I may, if I may, the part where

868
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: he says, I'll show you where you're from, they're gonna

869
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: use that. They're gonna use that line over and over

870
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: and over. The N word probably not, but that line

871
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: they're going to go back to because it's such a

872
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: hard line in the sand. It sets the tone, it

873
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: sets the plot basically of the fight, like this is

874
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: what it's about, so to speak. So yeah, like the

875
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: UFC one big time with that.

876
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely I loved afterwards when Dana was like, wait, who

877
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 3: made it about race in the cave? I know, I

878
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 3: know who said. Look, that was a very similar response

879
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: to you at the post live show in Las Vegas

880
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: after dinner party, when you were like, I thought the

881
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: show is great, man, it was fantastic.

882
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: Well you got to remember BC what you what you

883
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: fail to appreciate is I went through the show drunk,

884
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 2: so it was great.

885
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying in my mind, in your mind? Yeah, yeah, yeah, indeed,

886
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 3: all right, spinning forward looking, okay, BET's still the come

887
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: focusing on this Saturday's UFC London card. Let's go to

888
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: topic number four and hey, the WBC, right, the sanctioning body,

889
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: has essentially told undisputed lightweight champion Devin Haney shouta or

890
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: move off the pot. He has until today, Luke Thomas

891
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: to declare to the WBC whether he will defend his

892
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 3: four lightweight titles against WBC mandatory shaker Stevenson, which would

893
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: be for me, Luke, or officially move up to one

894
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 3: point forty and challenge the WBC champion Regis pro Gray

895
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: as the champion one way class below in the WBC.

896
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: If you decide to move up, you can become the

897
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: instant number one contender. So Luke, this plays into the

898
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: current free agent status of where Haney is at. He's

899
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: in a very advantageous position. He could go, you know,

900
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. Three roads go to his

901
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: own route, the ESPN route, or the PBC Showtime route,

902
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: big opponents potentially in all three. He's also a growing

903
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: young man. Which direction do you think he will or

904
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: even should go come today's deadline?

905
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 2: Should go to fight Shakor? I don't suspect he will.

906
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: I suspect he'll go to one forty and fight pro Grey.

907
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: And my reasoning is not very difficult to understand for

908
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: anyone who's been paying attention. Hani tough fight against Loma,

909
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: certainly a lot of controversy about it, and you just

910
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: have to imagine, if you know, Loma and Shakur are

911
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: not the same fighter, but many of the same problems

912
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: that Loma posed to Shakoor excuse me that Loma posed

913
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: to Hani, Shaquor could pose many of the same kinds

914
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: of ones, including some other ones that Loma can't. Shakur

915
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 2: is one of the best young talents in all of boxing.

916
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: He is a phenomenal phenomenal fighter. I just don't believe Hani.

917
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, Hani not that he's getting old,

918
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: but I don't know how much he really wants to

919
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: make one thirty five unless he absolutely has to, like

920
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: he did to become the undisputed guy at against Lomachenko

921
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: pro Grey in addition to being a little bit heavier

922
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: up at one forty, just came off of a fight

923
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: where he didn't look great at all, and in some

924
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: ways you could argue maybe got gifted a bit of

925
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: a decision. There was a knockdown that he suffered. The

926
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: referee in that content didn't even really notice. I mean,

927
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: it was not a strong showing. But he's got a

928
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 2: name again. He can go and do some big things

929
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: up at one forty for his title. So here's my

930
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: official prediction. My official predictions. He goes to one forty

931
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: fights we just program which by the WAYBC, I don't

932
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: hate that fight. I don't hate that fight. I like

933
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 2: that fight fine, but it's not the same as fighting

934
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: Shakers Stevens, not even close.

935
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: Just so we established, I don't hate any of these fights.

936
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: And Haiti has been, in my opinion, really trying his

937
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 3: bests throughout his pro career to maximize opportunities, even if

938
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: the Eddie Hearn relationship didn't get him the big fights.

939
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: He originally wanted him signing that three fight deal with ESPN,

940
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: which forced him to go to Australia twice to fight Cambo,

941
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: So that was to get increased leverage. Well, what did

942
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: he do that used that leverage for fat Lomachenko in

943
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: a big close up and whether you believed he won

944
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: or not, he survived in advance. So he's going to

945
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: call his on shots. What's more interesting to me is

946
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 3: not necessarily which fight he picks that's next, but which

947
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: lane he picks on the side of the street, as

948
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: we say in boxing, in terms of the network exclusive

949
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 3: rights with promoters that will lead to that next fight.

950
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: What's the best package for him? So what I mean

951
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: by that is if he picks Pro Gray, which seems

952
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: like the easiest of his big fight options potentially, although

953
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: that's on paper, we got to see him move up

954
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: to one forty and you know Pro Grey can bring it.

955
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: What does that lead to if he aligns on a

956
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: multi fight deal on his own side, well, that could

957
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: lead to a Ryan Garcia fight. So that's an interesting proposition, Luke.

958
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: They fought Haini and Ryan Garcia fought in the amateur

959
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: six times and according to all reports split those fights.

960
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: We've always wanted them to fight each other. But if

961
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: he did go the Shakuur route and signed a multi

962
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: fight deal with Top Rank and ESPN, what about win

963
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: or lose against shakor if he decided to defend his

964
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: lightweight titles, then fighting Tao Femo for that one forty

965
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 3: belt afterwards. And we know that Top Rank has more

966
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 3: big names out one forty when you consider Josh Taylor,

967
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: Jose Ramirez. That direction could also, Luke, go to PBC.

968
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: We'd love that. Give me some Gervante, Frank Martin, all

969
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: those names, right, a lot of He's in a great spot.

970
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: But there was a tweet that he reacted to you here.

971
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: We can throw that up there where Rugaro tweeted, Yo,

972
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: Eddie hearn, I'm fighting real Devin Haney in November or

973
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: what it's on you with the emoji of a sand

974
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 3: clock there whatever you call that thing.

975
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: Luke, our glass or glass.

976
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I said it. I said it before you did,

977
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: so give me that credit, Luke.

978
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: Okay uh.

979
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 3: The quote tweet from Hany was October. So I don't know.

980
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: I wonder Luke, it's good who comes with the best offer.

981
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: But do I think he'll go into a difficult fight

982
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: against Shakuru if he doesn't have to. No, I agree

983
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: with you. I don't think he will.

984
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: Let's just be honest. Let's be honest for a second.

985
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: It's like, here is the way to understand boxing. You

986
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: have to accept on terms. Are you tous to shut

987
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: the fuck up? Please? If you're that guy, you have

988
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: to understand it is a business. It really is a business,

989
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: and it's a business that you know well. Our family

990
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: has had the sandwich shop on Main Street for seventy years.

991
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: That's not what's gonna happen here. You have a short

992
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: amount of time to make a maximum amount of money. Okay,

993
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: So inevitably rational considerations about who to fight at what

994
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: time are going to be a part of any elite

995
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: fighters calculus. It is inevitable. That doesn't mean that you

996
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: give in to them, like, for example, when Tyson Fury

997
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: says I'm not going to fight Usick and said I'm

998
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 2: going to fight Francis Sangano. Now, maybe if he fights

999
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: Usick next, we'll forgive him. But that's a clear abdication

1000
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: of responsibility, right, I mean, that's clearly like so far

1001
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: outside of what should be acceptable. But Pro Gray is

1002
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: not a bum. He has a good fighter. He has

1003
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: a decorated fighter. His fight with Josh Taylor, even though

1004
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: he lost to me, was fantastic. BC. I know you

1005
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: co sign on that, right. He has shown some flashes

1006
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 2: of real high level ability. And so what you're trying

1007
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: to get through to the audience is that sometimes they

1008
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: might take the softer landing between two options, but what

1009
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: you want is that eventually they take some of the

1010
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: tougher fights along the way. That's really the that's really

1011
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: a best case scenario. Anyone who's like I'm gonna take

1012
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: the toughest fights every time, you simply will not have

1013
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: a very long or successful career in boxing. It just

1014
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. You have to be able to

1015
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: maneuver with the right opponents at the right time. Progray

1016
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: is not what I would want for him. I'd prefer Chakor,

1017
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: But given the way things are going, if he ends

1018
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: up taking if he takes a Shakur fight, dude, I

1019
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: gotta be honest, I gotta come up here on the

1020
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 2: next show and just eat cro completely, which I'd love

1021
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: to do. To be perfectly clear. Hell yeah, but but

1022
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying, bec you know those two, this idea

1023
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: that like, oh, you should take the toughest every time,

1024
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: that is simply it is not a realistic expectation, not

1025
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: merely for Devin Haney, but for any of these guys.

1026
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: You gotta lose it.

1027
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 3: Did you see the quote tweet dunk that Hani landed, Luke.

1028
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 3: We don't have the tweet to pull. But you know

1029
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: Tom Holland, the actor, he was on some podcast.

1030
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: Where he said, I I like Zendaya.

1031
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thanks for ruining the reveal, Luke. But to

1032
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 3: Holland basically said, Loan was my favorite fighter. I think

1033
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: he got robbed against Haney. I hope he gets a rematch.

1034
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: And then as you revealed, Haney quote tweeted, I was

1035
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: here also for Zendaya, his girlfriend, Luke star of June

1036
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: two coming out in November. That's a that's I like that.

1037
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: I like that saucy play right there. Online.

1038
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: Also in that same interview, Tom Holland admitted he liked

1039
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: Barcelona the football team. So you know, I've always been

1040
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: more of a venom and carnage guy.

1041
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, Hey Tom, why don't you just eat a well

1042
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 3: done steak with ketchup after all?

1043
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 2: All right?

1044
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying right there? Yeah? Oh god,

1045
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: there you go. Oh we're gonna mix it up. Speaking

1046
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 3: of no, we'll get to that later. Topic number five, Luke,

1047
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: let's keep the train rolling here. Hey, PFL, they're doing

1048
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: some big shit, Luke, like offering Nate Diaz ten million

1049
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: dollars to take an MMA fight in the Smart Cage

1050
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: in the in the Ask Jeeves showcase against Jake Paul,

1051
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: who's expected to make his PFL debut next year. So,

1052
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: as we already know August fifth, his own pay per view,

1053
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: we are getting Jake Paul and Nate Diaz in a

1054
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: boxing match. But Don Davis had a quote tweeted a

1055
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: tweet from Jake Paul about fighting Nate Diaz in the cage.

1056
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 3: And here's what Don said. Official at PFLMMA has a

1057
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: ten million dollar offer on the table for Jake and Nate.

1058
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: It's an opportunity for both to accept the second part

1059
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: of a boxing and MMA duel. Luke. I tend to

1060
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 3: believe still that PFL is going to go to his

1061
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: own because of this connection to Jake paul But do

1062
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 3: you think Nate accepts this win or losing the boxing

1063
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: match August fifth? If anyone's gonna do a two sport deal,

1064
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: like a gimmicky crossover two sport deal, are these two

1065
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: of the one for this? Is it? What do you

1066
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: care about this?

1067
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: I don't Could you get an athletic commission to license

1068
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: that fight? Probably, is the answer. Probably, right, You could

1069
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: probably get Jake paul A licensed to fight Nate, But

1070
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: Jesus man, that'd be a real bad idea. You know,

1071
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: he get fucked up proper by Nate in an MMA

1072
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: fight in all likelihood, but neither here or there. You know,

1073
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I like what PFL is doing, just

1074
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: chucking money at guys, like just get to the heart

1075
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: of the issue. We'll pay you guys a funck to

1076
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: on a mone to do fights that we want you

1077
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: to do. Now, Nate has since come out and says

1078
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a little bit more than that. That's

1079
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: not enough money. Plus, here's the issue, right, b See,

1080
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: if you're Nate, you probably have a handful of fights

1081
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: left in your career period, right, So you're gonna want

1082
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: to maximize opportunity. If you're still Nate and you're doing

1083
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: the Francis and Ghanu thing where you're like, you know, patients,

1084
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna plan this piece by piece, you have to

1085
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: be saying to yourself, after fighting Jake Paul and boxing,

1086
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: what would still be a reasonable big fight you could

1087
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: get in the UFC for most amount of money, And

1088
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: of course it's gonna be the Connor fight. So then

1089
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: you have to ask yourself, what are you gonna make

1090
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: more money doing? And it doesn't matter how many fights

1091
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: you have left in a set like, it's gonna be

1092
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: a small number no matter what. So you're gonna say,

1093
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: would I rather fight Connor and UFCO? Would rather fight

1094
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: Jake and PFL. You know, I can understand why Nate

1095
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: would be like, listen, I'm gonna make more money. He

1096
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: probably made. I would adventure to say, when it's all

1097
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: said and done, could he make fifteen million fighting Connor?

1098
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: It's possible. It's possible, right, that's not out of the

1099
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: realm of possibility in the UFC. So he's just gonna

1100
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: want more money. But listen, if the PFL came and

1101
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: I don't think they should do this, I don't know

1102
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: how wise it would be for their business, But if

1103
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: they came around said, hey, twenty million to the winner,

1104
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: that could change the equation a little bit. Actually, I

1105
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: just don't think that they're going to do that.

1106
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 3: So what about this for early projection as PFL launches

1107
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: their pay per view division, whatever that means next year?

1108
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 3: Jake versus Nate? Would it sell?

1109
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: Hell?

1110
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, would sell? Francis versus the winner of JDS versus

1111
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: ver Doom in a bare knuckle MMA fight under the

1112
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: Masvidal banner. Luke, is that another option in play? Maybe

1113
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: maybe if they acquire Bellatore, then you could do Cyborg

1114
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: versus Kayla, Right, I mean, I guess there's they got

1115
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: some options here. They got some options. I think they

1116
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: need the Beltar acquisition though, but this is aggressive. People

1117
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: would care even if it's a lame idea. I don't

1118
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: know how the boxing match results will dictate whether the

1119
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: MMA fight happens. Like, do you think there's a scenario

1120
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: in the boxing match that guarantee we see the back

1121
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 3: end of this two fight deal?

1122
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: And so you have to ask yourself what would have

1123
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: to happen in the fight such that you would need

1124
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: to see it again under MMA rules? Is it that

1125
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 2: Nate gets tuned up and stopped, you know, like, okay, fucker,

1126
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: then let's fight an MMA that's a little bit different maybe,

1127
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: But like if you're here's the problem if you're Jake Paul,

1128
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: and let's say how many fights? Soe many rounds? That

1129
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: fight ten rounds? Right because they bumped at two extra

1130
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: rounds as I recall, from eight to ten. So let's

1131
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 2: say if Nate gets stopped in like the six or seventh,

1132
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: like full on, you know, flat lined or something like that.

1133
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: If you're Jake, why the fuck would you fight an

1134
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: idea as an MMA at that point? You know what

1135
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, oh, what's for the money. But it's like,

1136
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: if you're Jake, could couldn't you have another fight with

1137
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: Tommy Fury again and make similar amounts if not more so?

1138
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 2: Like this is the problem that he fails up against.

1139
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: These other guys just have better options than each other. Twice.

1140
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: This is a good option one time, could be a

1141
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: good option a second time if they hit the right notes.

1142
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 2: But in all likelihood they've got better options in different areas.

1143
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Look, two bonus news bits that

1144
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 3: I want to get your reaction to Shatri. Sidyongtong, CEO

1145
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: of One Championship, announced yesterday that after the blockbuster success

1146
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: of their US debut this year in Broomfield, Colorado, next

1147
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: calendar year twenty twenty four, One Championship will hold four

1148
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 3: US based cards that will air on Amazon Prime. Hell yeah,

1149
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 3: you down for that, Luke, you don't, I'm in.

1150
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 2: I am super down with that. Chatri is a lying goober.

1151
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you like the one product. We

1152
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: say it all the time. I know I sound like

1153
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: a broken record BC, but the truth is what the

1154
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: truth is. They are the true genuine alternative in the

1155
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: combat sports space in MMA. They have different rule sets

1156
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: which I think are much better than the existing rule set,

1157
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: and they're not strict promoters of just MMA. They promote

1158
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: muyt High, they promote grappling and also in muy Thai.

1159
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 2: They've kind of innovated a little bit by making them

1160
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 2: use four ounceclobs do. It's a great product. Four shows.

1161
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm happy to see. The only catch for MEBC is

1162
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: for where because the Athletic Commission would have to sanction it.

1163
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: We need other states beyond Colorado, which already has laid

1164
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: the groundwork for them. We need other states to do that.

1165
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: Are they just going to go to Colorado four times?

1166
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm not against that, but that's not going to get

1167
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 2: them the footprint in the market. I think that they're

1168
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: looking for. They need to go to New York. They

1169
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: need to go to Los Angeles, they need to go

1170
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: to Florida. Potentially, they need to go to Texas, some

1171
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: of these like kind of hubs in MMA where they've

1172
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: got some of these communities. They need to go to

1173
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: places that really matter that gives them the media visibility.

1174
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: But if the commission in New York, for example, doesn't

1175
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: play ball, what are they supposed to do? I don't know.

1176
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: So to me love that they're going to bring shows here.

1177
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: I just hope that they're not all in Colorado.

1178
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I don't think they will be.

1179
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: Here's the deal, though, Let's be honest, like pfl's potentially

1180
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: making a power move over the next year if they

1181
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: acquire Belator, if they roll out of pay per view division,

1182
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: which they will with a gun Jake Paul, maybe Na Diaz.

1183
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the biggest move we've seen since Strikeforce.

1184
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: You said that one is the alternative. I think it's

1185
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: true they're in different lanes b right, they have a

1186
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: different model, But how do they counter that? Is it

1187
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: this move right here or do you think that one

1188
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: over the next six to nine months needs to become

1189
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: a major player in the free agency and getting recognizable

1190
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: names to American households to really make this one expansion

1191
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 3: to the States next year not only land, but show

1192
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: that they are competing just the same with the other

1193
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 3: big powers.

1194
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: So there's so many things about the one issue I

1195
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: just don't know about, Like we know they're hemorrhaging money,

1196
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: but like what is the play here, what's the venture

1197
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 2: capital play here? I don't really know. I don't have

1198
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: a clear sense of that. Like what are they just

1199
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: setting up to sell and to whom? That's unclear? And

1200
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: also like what determines success for Amazon? Amazon like dipping

1201
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: their toes right, Like they got a little bit of

1202
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: one championship, they got a little bit of NFL. They're

1203
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: starting to sprinkle, you know, they're starting to get They're

1204
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: starting to figure things out. What to them because you

1205
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: know Amazon's gonna have like unlimited money or some thing

1206
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: pretty close to It's like what to them constitutes success.

1207
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 2: I don't know that answer either, so that's really hard

1208
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: for me to tell. I mean, this is the thing

1209
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 2: that I think. Let me tell you one more advantage

1210
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 2: that I feel like one has over PFL that PFL

1211
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: refuses to recognize. PFL has guys like Ray Cepho in it, who,

1212
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: of course, is as much of the fight game, you know.

1213
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a fight a former fighter himself,

1214
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: a coach, you know. I think Ray CEFO understands fighting perfectly, right.

1215
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: Shots to Ray, big big fan of Ray. But in general,

1216
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: you've got a lot of guys running PFL who are

1217
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: not fight guys, right. I mean, again, you can say

1218
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: whatever else you want about Dana White. Dana White, it's

1219
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: a fight guy, right, I mean, he understands the fight

1220
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: business very well. And there's just a lot of decisions

1221
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: that PFL makes that are not indicative of people who

1222
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: truly understand the fight game. So for example, they buy

1223
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: Bellator but and then the roster, but then like merge

1224
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: the rosters, and now they're still sticking to their tournament

1225
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: four where it's just all tournaments all the time, with

1226
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: the exception of like a Francis fight here or whatever.

1227
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: To me, that would be a massive mistake, and I

1228
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: really don't think that would change their fortunes even with

1229
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: the belt or acquisition at all. Can you convince people

1230
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: who aren't fight guys to understand that, I don't know

1231
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: if you can. I don't know if you can. We'll

1232
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: have to see. So there's a lot of ways where

1233
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: it's like, don't get me wrong, PFL beltore teaming up,

1234
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: that's a formidable thing. But there's just a lot of

1235
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: practices that PFL keeps that that Like one championship dude

1236
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: like chawtr is a fight guy, like you know he is.

1237
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: He understands a lot of that business, a lot of

1238
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: what makes that side of the equation tick, and I

1239
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: don't think PFL has that same appreciation and nuance in

1240
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: that way. Whatever else you want to say about these.

1241
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: Guys, Chatri understands retaining bushido to give you that old.

1242
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: School I don't know if he understands that either, but.

1243
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: He understands building attractions. Right, You've got like stam fair Tex,

1244
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: You've got u rod Tang, You've got guys like that.

1245
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: I hate to like downgrade that by saying, hey, Shatri,

1246
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: we kind of need more retired old UFC names that

1247
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: people know. But when you are competing sometimes you do

1248
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: need that. It's just how desperate do you want to be?

1249
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: I thought again that acquisition of DJ and Eddie Alvarez

1250
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: and Sage largely worked out for them, even if Eddie

1251
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: and Sage kind of fell apart quickly in terms of

1252
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: at all, I don't know. I think it did. I

1253
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: think it brought him brand awareness. And I think DJ's

1254
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: run of you know, trilogy against Mirijh winning that tournament.

1255
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. The DJ side of the equation

1256
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: worked out marvelously, marvelously, Like that worked out even better

1257
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: than I thought it could happen.

1258
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: Right, But even though Eddie didn't win early on, it

1259
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: got you to watch me.

1260
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: I got him a little bit. But their TNT deal

1261
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: got no boost from it. They shattered Sage Northcutt's face.

1262
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: He lost what four or five years of his career

1263
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: as a consequence. Now he did get that bounce back

1264
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: win in Colorado recently. So the story's not fully told,

1265
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: I understand, but like to me, it was like, did

1266
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: it work? Well? If you want to say that the

1267
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: DJ side was so successful that it worked and it

1268
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: got him a little bit of a bump. Initially fine,

1269
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: but clearly the Eddie Alva's experiment failed on the one side,

1270
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: and the Stage one has largely failed, although there is

1271
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of sliver of hope for redemption.

1272
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 3: All Right, So if like one announced big Sexy Sean

1273
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: mccorky against Brendan shab to retired UFC names that we

1274
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 3: know and love, you'd be like, Yeah, maybe not the lane,

1275
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 3: maybe not the direction we'd go. I'd be an interesting

1276
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: matchup though right now, I'll tell you that much. Also, Luke,

1277
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: to close on this before we get into okay, bet,

1278
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: GSP does have a grappling opponent for December, the UFC

1279
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: Fight Pass Into Invitational, which will be the same weekend

1280
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,479
Speaker 3: as the final pay per view card of the year.

1281
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 3: I hope Craig Jones shows up with some no spears, Luke,

1282
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 3: but it's gonna be GSP versus Demian Maya, two time

1283
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 3: usc title challenger submission expert. Yan are you in, Luke?

1284
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: That's a tough match for GSP. If I could be

1285
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: totally honest with you, that's a very tough match Demian

1286
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: Maya in jiu jitsu, in pure jiu jitsu is orders

1287
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: of magnitude better than George Saint Pierre, like not by

1288
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: a little bit, by a lot. But you might say,

1289
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: well he got you know, beat up in a long

1290
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: MMA career, and that's True's forty five Demian Maya, that's true.

1291
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: I think GSP's like what I forty one, forty two

1292
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: something like that. Someone could double check. But even at

1293
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: forty five, bro we saw did we not see Demian

1294
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: Maya in that hotel? Was that you? Was that with

1295
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: you at that point? I don't remember if I was

1296
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 2: with you or not, but I saw him in a

1297
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: hotel not too long ago. He still was in fantastic shape,

1298
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: and of course GSP is as well, so you know

1299
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 2: you got two older guys in good shape. The long

1300
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: fight careers are not going to be the same. But

1301
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: like if all of that out to the side, like

1302
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: who showed higher level jiu jitsu ability and then I

1303
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: guess it was gonna be know gee, So this was

1304
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: more so in the GEE, but even still no gi.

1305
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: It's Demian Maya, not debatable, not debatable at all, much

1306
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: much better. So tough fight for GSP.

1307
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 3: I'll watch, I'll watch they got me.

1308
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll definitely watch, Happy to see Demian Maya compete again,

1309
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: Happy to see Saint Pierre back. It's a lot safer.

1310
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 2: It's still pretty cool. The two guys you like, I

1311
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: love it. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying, tough

1312
01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: match for GSP.

1313
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I need to put this on

1314
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 3: to have this take. You know, I don't really enjoy

1315
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: grappling at all. It's kind of like watching, you know,

1316
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 3: Cinemax B movies where you get a boob every once

1317
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 3: in a while, but you're like, you know, I'm kind

1318
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: of looking for more.

1319
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: This was because you're hopelessly ignorant about it.

1320
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: I mean, a little too much dialogue out there, but

1321
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 3: that's what it is, all right, Luke. We're gonna transition

1322
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 3: to Okay Bet, which will obviously be a big feature

1323
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 3: on this Saturday's UFC London Fight Night card that goes

1324
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 3: down main card by the way, three pm Eastern in

1325
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: the afternoon Saturday. In addition to this top rank, ESPN

1326
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 3: will have a boxing card Saturday night Shawnee, Oklahoma, the

1327
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: return of former lightweight king George Cambosis Junior from down

1328
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 3: under Luke, but he's gonna invade Shawnee to take on

1329
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 3: Maxy Hughes. So that fights, okay, Luke, but the Colemane's

1330
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 3: pretty good. It's a twenty twenty silver medallist, Keishawn. What's

1331
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 3: the guy's like, Luke, Keyshawn Davis. Sorry, Yeah, he's fighting

1332
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 3: Francisco Petero, which is a step up for him. He's

1333
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 3: only got five fights in his career, Keishawan, and he's

1334
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 3: been dazzling. So that's a interesting step up. To watch

1335
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 3: their Saturday Night.

1336
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: You'll be happy to know that I was. I visited

1337
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: Shawnee one time with my father, who of course is

1338
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 2: from Lawton, Oklahoma. The land that time forgot and we

1339
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: had our attires slashed in Shawnee. So did great place? Great?

1340
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 3: Damn right you did, Luke, and don't ever come back.

1341
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

1342
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: First of all, we go head to head every Friday,

1343
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 3: five categories, five picks. We're not too good at it.

1344
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 3: It's called okay bet yeh ding ding ding ding ding

1345
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 3: ding ding.

1346
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, not a lot of winners on this program.

1347
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: Not a lot of winners.

1348
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: Last week, your boy BC, when how about this, Luke

1349
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 3: three and three? I had the bonus pick from Jack

1350
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 3: Delamey to Elena falling out. I won the Mary Bueno

1351
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: Myra Bueno Silva fight. I lean Perez shook it and

1352
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 3: I cashed out. Chelsea Chandler dog pick killed me. And

1353
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 3: you see, some of those gimmicks did not go my

1354
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 3: way at all. I rebounded with the oositaire early stoppage

1355
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: with Prado three and three, Luke, you didn't do that

1356
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 3: much better, exactly, not better at all. Two and three.

1357
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 3: You see the home loss. McKinney, unfortunate for him, came

1358
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: up empty again. You always cheat with that. This women's

1359
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 3: fight will go there.

1360
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: I always cheat. These are readily available choices that I

1361
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: rationally make.

1362
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're in the lead, Luke, so that's a

1363
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 3: little bit.

1364
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: Uh, well, stop making dumbass choices. You'd be in the lead.

1365
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 3: I think there's unwritten rules and things like pick up basketball, Luke.

1366
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 3: That's why I'm not afraid to push people to their

1367
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 3: limits to.

1368
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: Where they want to punch met the Indian flag by

1369
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: my name.

1370
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: Our our fantastic CBS Sports team, Luke, without question, all right,

1371
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 3: because if you're not if you're not going to recognize

1372
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: that you're the real Indian champion, Luke, who will Okay,

1373
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: all right, let me be izzy in this case, Luke,

1374
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 3: let's check where you're at actually from Okay, I.

1375
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 2: Gotta hold up information that you know will block with

1376
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: you guys.

1377
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: Can you see the overall standings as Luke finds his

1378
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 3: green card, it's fifty one, fifty and three for Luke,

1379
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 3: forty six and fifty eight. While that's not good from

1380
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 3: your boy, BC, I'm only about five.

1381
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a way to show this

1382
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: without showing all my information.

1383
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it, Okay, you we

1384
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: already know the argument. I wasn't born in India. I

1385
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 3: was born on sovereign American embassy territory. Yeah, you were

1386
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 3: born in India, Luke. That's the truth of what happened there.

1387
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: Okay, that's I don't know if I can show you

1388
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: know what, Mikey, can I take a picture of it

1389
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: and then you guys like just cut out the part

1390
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: where it says I'm I'm born.

1391
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: I don't think people care, Luke.

1392
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they care. But I can do it.

1393
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try it. Here we go.

1394
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna tick all right, okay, bet Luke, I've

1395
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 3: got a You've got a five pick lead on me.

1396
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 3: Are you going first or second?

1397
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: I will go first.

1398
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: UFC London we got heavyweights in the main event, Tom

1399
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 3: Aspinall against State under the Radar, red Hot marching ty Burrow,

1400
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: thirty seven years old. He's won seven of eight though,

1401
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: aspinall rightfully coming in as a big favorite according to

1402
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 3: Caesar's at the moment minus four fifty for aspinall plus

1403
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: three point fifty the underdog ty Bura, who wins in

1404
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 3: the main event.

1405
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: Luke, well, I have a Tom aspinall. You say that

1406
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: Tibora is red hot. I don't think that's really a

1407
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: fair representation of the facts. I think he's doing well ish.

1408
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't think he's red hot.

1409
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 3: Like he beat a bunch of train wrecks and sometimes

1410
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 3: just barely so yeah, all right, I.

1411
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: Get you right. I mean his his best win ever

1412
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: is against Blagoy Ivanov, who's no longer on the roster.

1413
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 3: Boy, Yeah, that guy's toughest shit.

1414
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: Though, Lukey, he is tough shit. I mean that guy.

1415
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: I mean, for folks who forget he was on BLTA

1416
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: roster when he got stabbed up and somehow still lived.

1417
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: I mean, my man was he was struggling he was

1418
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: st rugglin as we used to say. But yeah, Tom

1419
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 2: Aspinall should win this. If Tom Aspital I'll just say this.

1420
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: If Tom Aspinall doesn't win this for you know, and

1421
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: not for like some stupid ref intervention or whatever, but

1422
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: like actually just gets beat, that's a disaster for his career.

1423
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: I agree with that. It's hard for I can't pick

1424
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: the upset here. I think if there's any if there's

1425
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 3: any upset, pick where you can make money. Speaking of betting,

1426
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: could you bet the over on this? Luke? We didn't.

1427
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: You and I did not go that way. We both

1428
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 3: take an aspirinhaul. We didn't pick this. We are over under.

1429
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 3: But do you think there's value in betting that?

1430
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: I can show you this? I can. I can show

1431
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: you this real quickly. This doesn't have any information that

1432
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: really compromises me. Look at place of birth? Can you

1433
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: see it?

1434
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? It says India.

1435
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,959
Speaker 2: Luke, there you go, There you go, boys and girls.

1436
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: Point are you proving, Luke? The flag made sense? What

1437
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 3: point are you proving.

1438
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: That I am not an Indian national? This is a

1439
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: US passport? Fuck face? How about that those sostatos unidos

1440
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: one of us wore the uniform of this country, and

1441
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: one of us is a free loading civilian piece of shit.

1442
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: I wonder who that is. I don't wonder who that is.

1443
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 3: I don't mean to push political boundaries to make a joke, Luke,

1444
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: but I think it's time I show up with a

1445
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 3: red hat outside your house, build a wall around your

1446
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 3: house and in and don't think I can't get you deported, Luke,

1447
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 3: That's all I have.

1448
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: You know you wear a red hat around these parts.

1449
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 2: It means you're a big fan of the Washington Nationals,

1450
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: which I am.

1451
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: Right, magic baby, we both got aspirinall dude. Do you

1452
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 3: think it goes past the second round? Does he go

1453
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 3: to the third round for the first time in his career?

1454
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: Even that would be well, that's not a disaster, but

1455
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: that would be surprising. That'd be some Tom should beat

1456
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: the fuck out of this guy. Can we just be honest?

1457
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: Tom should should?

1458
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 3: And he looks healthy. I like the quotes he's saying

1459
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 3: about you know, going on.

1460
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: Did you see him at the WAYNS today?

1461
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 4: No?

1462
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 2: Two fifty eight. That's the biggest he's ever been to.

1463
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: Fifty eight.

1464
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 3: Hey, put your put you put your money where our

1465
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 3: mouth is maybe we're both picking aspiraal looke, Who's your

1466
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: favorite this week?

1467
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: For my favorite, you know, there was a couple of

1468
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 2: good ones you could have gone with on this card,

1469
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: but for me, I had to go with a guy

1470
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: who has had ups and downs, but I think is

1471
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 2: finally starting to sort things out. As they say, and

1472
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 2: give me Nathaniel would give me Nathaniel Wood. He's gonna

1473
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 2: be fighting Andre Peeley. They got him at a minus

1474
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: two o five at Caesar's Phey obviously at a plus

1475
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: one seventy, you can I'm betting action on him on

1476
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: that level. You know what, Again, I think started out

1477
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: his bandsaway's moved at to featherweight. It's kind of had

1478
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 2: some fits and starts. I thought he would have gotten

1479
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: off to a much stronger start. But again, I think

1480
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: in general, there's reasons to believe that the latest version

1481
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: of him has kind of, if not turn the ship around,

1482
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: ironed out a lot of the problems that he had.

1483
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: I do think he'll fit well at this way. Class

1484
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: Peely is good, but I think he's been in a

1485
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: lot of fights. I'm not gonna say shop worn, but

1486
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it feels to me his

1487
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: best days are behind him, but I you know the

1488
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: fight is close, it is competitive. I guess we'll see

1489
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 2: I like Wood.

1490
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pheeley's thirty three. I think he's running out of

1491
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 3: time to finally make that run. Luke, it's so up

1492
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 3: and down constantly. I don't hate that bet my favorite.

1493
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay on this card. I'm gonna take Kaitlyn

1494
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 3: Vieta here at minus one point fifty in this bandam

1495
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 3: way about. It does feel kind of wide open again

1496
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 3: for somebody to make a run at getting whoever's gonna

1497
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 3: fight for this vacant title shot will be Bueno, Silva,

1498
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 3: will be Juliana God will be Macy Barber. That's been

1499
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 3: an interesting and forth between them two this week. But

1500
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 3: Vienna's minus one fifty against Panny Quinazod ked uh chase

1501
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: chaise on, I think is how he pronounced it at

1502
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 3: UFC London. Look, she's the better fighter. There's decent steaks here.

1503
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 3: It's time to make a run and we need to

1504
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: change over this division. I'm just not sure if the

1505
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 3: UFC even knows that the title is vacant, or if

1506
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 3: they even have a plan. I doubt it. They probably

1507
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 3: I doubt it. Yeah, yeah, all right, there you go.

1508
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 3: Kicks in by arm bar was my prediction.

1509
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: There you go, okay, kicks on by arm bar. Very good.

1510
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: So we're doing underdog next. So this one is kind

1511
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: of interesting. My underdog picks are terrible, so everyone should

1512
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: be warned about again. I'm about as good again.

1513
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 3: What's wrong with you? It's like the seventh straight week.

1514
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: Fuck all right, I'll pick another one. I'll pick another one.

1515
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 3: I do not understand the rules that the segment.

1516
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 2: I read it at five am. I was not sleeping. Well,

1517
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: I got up early. I apologize. Okay, I can make

1518
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: a I can make a audible on the on the on

1519
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 2: the fly. Ver easy. How about this one? BC? How

1520
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: about RSD guest Paul Craig?

1521
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 3: Hop about it? How about it?

1522
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 2: Paul Greig sitting at minus excuse me? You have Andre

1523
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 2: mu News according to our friends at Caesars at minus

1524
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: two twenty, and I think that's fair. And now you've

1525
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: got Craig at plus one eighty. Listen. I don't really

1526
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: love the whole idea of him dropping away class, but

1527
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: he looked like not hardly different at all on the

1528
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: scales today. I was actually kind of blown away by it,

1529
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: so fuck it. Who cares? Let's see if he wins.

1530
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 3: That's been your attitude all along. I appreciate that, Luke,

1531
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: who cares? All right, let's move the chains. But I

1532
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: hope Paul Craig gets done. He's our guy. I like

1533
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: him a lot. I'm gonna go favorite, Luke with the

1534
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: one you wanted to pick. And you could have trumped

1535
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 3: me as the as the guy with the better record,

1536
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 3: but you didn't pull out your red hat. I'm taking

1537
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: Mark Jacasey here at plus one seventy. I know he

1538
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 3: is coming off of a defeat, but I like the

1539
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: recent reinvention and they put back to the wrestling game

1540
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 3: and the focus there to try to round out his skills.

1541
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: I think he's still got some juice left in him.

1542
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 3: Luke against Joel Alvarez, who is the favorite here? I'm

1543
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: gonna go Ja Casey here? Do you do you? You

1544
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: agreed with me? You echoed that, Luke. I think you

1545
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: know well. Alvarez did get knocked out by Sarruki in here,

1546
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: but he's gonna have to answer that. But I'm gonna

1547
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 3: go with the vi.

1548
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:12,480
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about j Casey and Alvarez. So Alvarez

1549
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: has and I can't believe I when I saw it

1550
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 2: this morning, I was like, dude, what he has in

1551
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: the UFC. I don't know about the rest of his career,

1552
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: but just for his UFC run for Joel Alvarez from Spain,

1553
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: he has a zero percent takedown defensive rate zero. Sar

1554
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 2: Yukin took him down. I think Duffy took him down.

1555
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: Buduela took him down twice. Like every literally, this is true.

1556
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: Every time someone has attempted a takedown on him in

1557
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: the UFC, they've succeeded. Now the catch there. The catch

1558
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: is that on the feet he is dynamic and he

1559
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: forces sometimes guys to shoot on him, not so much

1560
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: in the sr uk In case, but some of the

1561
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 2: other ones. The other catch is that he beat three

1562
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 2: of the four of those guys, and I think at

1563
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: least two of the four. But certainly he has won

1564
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 2: some of those bouts by virtue of the fact that

1565
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 2: he submitted him off of his back at times. He's

1566
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 2: got a great submission game. So he's got a little

1567
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 2: bit of that Carlos Condit vibe where yeah, the takedown

1568
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: might come easy, but then the sub comes sometimes right

1569
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 2: after it, so you can't really rely too much on

1570
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 2: that as this all encompassing stat However, is it a

1571
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: reasonable bet for a guy like Gacasey, who has become

1572
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 2: like a wrestling machine when he's going up against a

1573
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: guy with I'm gonna say it one more time, a

1574
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: zero percent to take down to I mean, people clown

1575
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: Beckenzie Dinner for having single digits. Dude, what the fuck

1576
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: is worse than zero? Right? So for that reason, is

1577
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: it a good bet for an underdog if you have

1578
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 2: to pick an underdog, Yeah, it's a good bet.

1579
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 3: Look, I bet you this is the curse I've needed

1580
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: all along to swing my fortunes. You wanted Ja Casey,

1581
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 3: you screwed up. Now you gotta go. Paul Craig watch

1582
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 3: him lose if I go Look, we're gonna have a

1583
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 3: push automatically on the main event. But if I go

1584
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: four and on the others and you go zero to four,

1585
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 3: I'll be one pick behind you enturing next.

1586
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: You see, one more time, I'm about as good as

1587
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: flipping a coin. You're decidedly worse.

1588
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 3: Well, that decidedly worse man is gonna pull you into

1589
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 3: a jam band concert soon enough, Luke, let's let's stay

1590
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 3: with this here on the over under. Are you gonna

1591
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna You're gonna cherry pick again? Right, you're gonna

1592
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 3: basket Hang, you're gonna force me to make you throw

1593
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 3: a punch at me on the back.

1594
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: Explain to me what cherry pick means in this contest.

1595
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 3: I think seventy percent of women's fights go the distance.

1596
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 3: So you have a padded lead here, and you're gonna

1597
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 3: lean into it. Luke, Hey, maybe we get to finish.

1598
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 3: Maybe we get a finish.

1599
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: That's right. I'm not gonna make stupid ass decisions when

1600
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't have to. Uh. You seem to think that's

1601
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 2: a sign of courage. I think it's a sign of cte.

1602
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, look, in reality, good betting isn't necessarily

1603
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 3: an above five hundred record. Good betting is scoring the

1604
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: big one true when you need to.

1605
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: You know that's true. That's true. I can agree with that.

1606
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 2: I can agree with that you tend to miss those

1607
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: as well. But yes, over under, give me Kaitlyn Vieira

1608
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 2: versus panty keon Zod going the distance because it probably will.

1609
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 3: Statistically speaking, Oh god, the MK nation is going to

1610
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 3: be cheering for a stoppage and that one Luke, I

1611
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 3: know it. I got them behind me probably yeah, my

1612
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 3: over under. I'm going to Shawnee, Oklahoma on the top

1613
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 3: rank main event George Cambosis Junior against Maxi Hughes. I'm

1614
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: gonna say it will go the distance. Cambosis has been

1615
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 3: talking a lot about a knockout. A lot of people

1616
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 3: are liking him to blow through Maxi Hughes, who has

1617
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: five defeats, a southpawl from Great Britain thirty three years old.

1618
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 3: To be honest, he's not on the level of Cambosis.

1619
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 3: I do think Cambosis bounces back big here. I think

1620
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 3: that's what this fight is all about following two straight

1621
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: title defeats to Devin Haney. It's about reinventing himself. I

1622
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 3: think he does that, but I think Hughes pushes him

1623
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 3: here and we go the distance in Oklahoma for BC

1624
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: to win that fight. And I looked over the quotes

1625
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 3: ahead of this week from the press conference. Here's what

1626
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 3: Cambos has said about bouncing back from these Heini losses.

1627
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 3: He says, the biggest thing that I've become from that

1628
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 3: is a greedy motherfucker. Now I'm going to take advantage

1629
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 3: of every hole there is.

1630
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, people want I know, people want to

1631
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: do that with your mouth.

1632
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 3: Well, wow, you're talking about adult skin tags. I don't

1633
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 3: know what you're talking about right now, but it was

1634
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 3: well done. So I'm gonna take the over. I'm gonna

1635
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: be a little cheeky here on that look. I don't know.

1636
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 3: I mean, Campbo just fought his ass off against Teo Femo.

1637
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 3: But Tale Fema almost died in the ring. We weren't

1638
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 3: wrong to give him no chance. You know, he fought

1639
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: his best against HAINI was undermatched. He'll win here, he'll

1640
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 3: look good, he'll become an opponent for somebody. But I

1641
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: hate to be a hater. I just I don't see

1642
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 3: it in Cambosis, and I never did.

1643
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 2: He never did. We were wrong in the sense of

1644
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 2: what we thought was gonna happen in the first Lopez

1645
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: fight or the only Lopez fight. I should say, but

1646
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm with you. But either way, all you're saying is

1647
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: it will go the distance. So in fact, Cambosis could lose.

1648
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: All has to do is go to the judges and

1649
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter. You would still be right with the bet,

1650
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 2: so I think it's a safe bet. Actually, I mean,

1651
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 2: you know, you act like this is some brave bet

1652
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 2: to do this that you know Cambos is gonna use,

1653
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: is gonna go to distance one of the easier calls

1654
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 2: on the car of the Cat.

1655
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 3: Really really, mister will go the distance on the women's fight.

1656
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: Lay up, Luke, I am there's a lot at stake. Okay.

1657
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: First of all, my might, my ears and my morals

1658
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 3: at some dying children show that you want me to

1659
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 3: go to and number two, my reputation. And if I

1660
01:16:58,240 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: don't have that in the m M A space, Luke,

1661
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 3: what the hell do I have this?

1662
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a serious questions. So let's say

1663
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: that I do win, which you know, to your point,

1664
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 2: I may not. But let's say for a second that

1665
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: I do. What would be and I'm being serious? What

1666
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 2: would be better here? For me to take you to

1667
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 2: a concert of like loud metal or something that's much

1668
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: more calm, guitar driven, you know, music that you could

1669
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,480
Speaker 2: jam to, but it was all in Spanish.

1670
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's a curveball. I think I'd take the Espanol Luke,

1671
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 3: I think I oh shit, okay, give me some culture.

1672
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 3: Give me give me a daddy Jenki and uh, who's

1673
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 3: that guy who's a boxing fan?

1674
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 2: Dude? People talk about the Honeyes at like country concerts.

1675
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 3: Bro, No, I'm not going to a country college. Give

1676
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: me Jay Balvin. What kind of music does he saying

1677
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: he's a boxing guy, Luke?

1678
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: J Balvin?

1679
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? What is he saying? Like club music's reggae?

1680
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: They met edgen Coru.

1681
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 3: Oh, dude, I get down with reggaeton, Luke. I've been

1682
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 3: to Jamaica.

1683
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 2: The concerts, the concerts, are you shitting me? Oh? The

1684
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 2: talent on displays of the Yeah, yeah.

1685
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's all honey for the bears there. I know,

1686
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: at Luke, what do you got for Ko? Sub here?

1687
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: Last, but certainly not least than this one. Now BC

1688
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: and I have the same fight, but we have very

1689
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 2: different results here. So give me Moonees versus Craig ending

1690
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: in sub Now. I've battled with this one too, BC,

1691
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: because you know they are going to mix it up

1692
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 2: on the ground. But of course that is zero guarantee

1693
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: that it ends up as a submission, and one guy

1694
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: could just pound the other one out and the call

1695
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 2: it a day. So I admit it's a speculative bet,

1696
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 2: but I got a kind of feeling that one might

1697
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: try and get the other one this particular way. So

1698
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 2: let's see give me submission.

1699
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 3: Okay. What I like about this curveball you've had to

1700
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 3: throw on yourself by picking Craig and then now picking

1701
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 3: that this one will fight, we'll end in a submission

1702
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: is you can dramatically double down and win or lose

1703
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 3: based on what happens. Craig wins by submission, you get

1704
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 3: two picks there. He loses any other way like the

1705
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 3: way i'm he.

1706
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: Could lose via sub I would still lose the underdog pick,

1707
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: but I would keep the sub true.

1708
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: True, that's a good point. I'm picking this fight to

1709
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 3: end by knockout. They're both submission specialists more or less.

1710
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 3: But I do have questions about the punch resistance of

1711
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: Paul Craig until he can prove that in this new division.

1712
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 3: He also takes big punishment early. It's just the way

1713
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 3: he fights. Give me your kniece to maybe stop him.

1714
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 3: It could go the other way, but I'm taking ko.

1715
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 3: Will regroup next week and find out who's taking the

1716
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 3: other one to a concert with a documentary team that

1717
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 3: currently doesn't exist, Luke.

1718
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 2: But but like, oh you know, I got some breaking

1719
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 2: news yeah, from Dan Raphael Justice Devin Haney. Topic regarding

1720
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: today's WBC deadline to Haney to decide between one thirty

1721
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 2: five Stevenson one forty Pro Gray. It has been extended

1722
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 2: to next Thursday at Matchroom's request, as Eddie Hearn is

1723
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 2: trying to get a deal done for Progray versus Haney,

1724
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 2: but it will not happen today as it was supposed to.

1725
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 3: If it's Pro Gray versus Haney and Hani wins, do

1726
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 3: we get Ryan Garcia versus Hanny next year? Because Rai

1727
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 3: Guy showed up to the Errol Spence workout yesterday in

1728
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 3: Vegas because he's trained by Errol's train or now Derek James,

1729
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 3: and he told media members he wants Rolly next.

1730
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: Sean Strickland of boxing, you know what I mean? Yeah,

1731
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: kind of just saying shit, you know.

1732
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, Luke, we close with a rapid dead

1733
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 3: wrong here morning combat at gmail dot com. Is your

1734
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 3: chance to call us out on the carpet and find

1735
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 3: out if it truly does match the drapes? Uh yeah,

1736
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 3: where this one's called dead wrong? Oh yeah, we've got

1737
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 3: angry mail viewers and they are upset. Luke. Here's Adam,

1738
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 3: he says, hey, BC and Luke. At four at an hour,

1739
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 3: forty one and fifty seconds to Friday Show, BC referred

1740
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 3: to Maurice Green as the Crochet King, which is dead

1741
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 3: wross because he's the crochet boss. BC should know a

1742
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 3: boss after karate chopping his way into his boss's office.

1743
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 3: A huge fan of both of you two, or to

1744
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 3: Luke correct me here? Oh, he says big fan of

1745
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 3: both of you two as two, but he said he

1746
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 3: could be too, Luke. You need to correct him grammarly.

1747
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 3: Here's what I'll say, Adam. Although I did say that,

1748
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 3: I wasn't saying that was his nickname. I was basically

1749
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 3: taking his nickname and having fun with it and expanding it. So, yeah,

1750
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 3: he's the Crochet King when I'm speaking, But yeah he's

1751
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 3: the boss. He's John Jones's trading partner, and he fights

1752
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 3: in the PFL. Thank you very much. That's pedantic as shit, Adam,

1753
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 3: but I guess that's why we have this segment. We

1754
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 3: got one more for you. This is from Leo, but

1755
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 3: also Kevin Victor and Asod wrote in Hey you old Buttholes,

1756
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 3: it's Leo here. I can't make fantastic art like average Joe,

1757
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 3: but I'm coming for that Donk of the Year twenty

1758
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 3: twenty four. Nonetheless, Wow, this guy's like, I cannot wait

1759
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 3: to get excommunicated from your show, and it'll be my choice.

1760
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: I got a double dead wrong for this Friday show.

1761
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 3: At nineteen thirty eight of episode four sixty four, b

1762
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 3: C referred to Glover to Sharet by saying how close

1763
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 3: he came to beating both Yeeri and Jamal Hill? BC?

1764
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 3: Did that injectible gas station cheese? Oh? Did that injectable

1765
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 3: gas station cheese get in your brain? Obviously? It did.

1766
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 3: To share A versus Hill ended with fifty to forty

1767
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 3: four scorecards, all respect to Factory Town MMA. Nonetheless, let's

1768
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 3: start there, Luke, Yeah, I was wrong. I mean, I

1769
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 3: guess what I'm saying is that the light heavyweight division

1770
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 3: of late has given us wars, given us craziness. Right

1771
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 3: Yarie versus Glover. I guess I lumped Glover and Jamal

1772
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: in that category just because it was batshit crazy and

1773
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 3: it felt like either guy can win any time, even

1774
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 3: if it was Glover that was absorbing a monstrosity of

1775
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 3: damage throughout that process. I'm not as wrong here, I

1776
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 3: guess as I am in my Kelvin Gastall and Robert

1777
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: Whitaker argument, But I still think it fit in line

1778
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: with what I was trying to say. Those were crazy

1779
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: fights that I felt like Glover could have pulled a

1780
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 3: big strike or a sub out of nowhere in because

1781
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: it was crazy. It was a crazy fight. So yeah,

1782
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: I guess I take there, But you got to understand

1783
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 3: my intention. I don't often understand my intention, and he says,

1784
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 3: also during the trivia portion, you both got the question

1785
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 3: Bjpenn lost twice to this fighter as a challenger for

1786
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 3: a UFC title. Luke stated that the correct answer was GSP,

1787
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 3: You're dead wrong. Bjpenn never lost bj Penn never lost

1788
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 3: to the same fighter twice for the UFC title. Jeer,

1789
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 3: he lost to Frank Jeger twice for the title. Yet

1790
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: dick Ball, but he said the first GSP bout was

1791
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 3: a non title fight, which is true.

1792
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: Pedante, that was the US versus Canada card.

1793
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 3: Yes, he says, Pedantic, but US donks must keep you

1794
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 3: in line much love it's Leo, So yeah, Mikey admits

1795
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 3: that was on him. We made an error there, but hey,

1796
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 3: look I had fun with that trivia segment just the same.

1797
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 3: I'd like to see a return from it. And if

1798
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 3: you want to write into our show Morning Coombat at

1799
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 3: gmail dot com for Wednesday fan subs Friday fan submissions,

1800
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 3: Luke I wanted to close with a couple shout outs

1801
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,879
Speaker 3: a reminder of what we announced off the top. Next Thursday,

1802
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 3: July twenty seventh, ten am Eastern Time, there's a Morning

1803
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 3: Combat takeover on the CBS Sports Network. You can check

1804
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 3: your local cable listings. Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell, and a

1805
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 3: two hour live preview from CBS Sports Studios of all

1806
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 3: things Aerol Spence Junior, Terence Crawford. Of course, that fight

1807
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: goes down a week from tomorrow, Last Vegas and Luke,

1808
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 3: I think we've teased this before, but here's the truth.

1809
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 3: You will be there next weekend in Las Vegas. I

1810
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 3: will be working, but I'll be working from home. My

1811
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 3: wife has work travel one week per year. You know

1812
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 3: what it's like, Luke, She gives me the dates a

1813
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 3: year in advance. Is don't book anything on this and

1814
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 3: inevitably the biggest fight of the decade lands on it,

1815
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 3: but I'll be a great husband working from home. But

1816
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas will be representing Showtime Sports with on the

1817
01:24:55,160 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 3: ground coverage of wighan of Prelimb Saturday with an all

1818
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 3: star team including Kate Abdo and Ariel Helwani. Luke, this

1819
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 3: is I didn't have these three on my boxing mingo card,

1820
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 3: but here we are. Congratulations. Is gonna be a great

1821
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: time next week. I'm fired up to watch you.

1822
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 2: Yes, nothing says boxing prelims like two guys from MMA

1823
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 2: calling the fights, but I will say just the same.

1824
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: I'm excited for the opportunity. Dude, who could be? I

1825
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 2: just couldn't be more excited for this fight, honestly. And

1826
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 2: of course, yes, folks to understand, Oh, does that mean

1827
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 2: MK is going to have a post fight show for

1828
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: Spence Crawford? Yes? What does that mean? Does that mean

1829
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna have Is MK gonna have a post fight

1830
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: show for UFC two ninety one? Yes, You're gonna get

1831
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 2: two post fight shows that night. Strangely, I'll do the

1832
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 2: one for boxing, Yeah, the one form.

1833
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 3: They're like, oh great, we get two things that we like,

1834
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 3: only we've got the wrong guy hosting each one. But

1835
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: you know what, Luke, I've been the right guy at

1836
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 3: MMA for a long time. People just haven't realized that.

1837
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 3: All right, But I say one thing.

1838
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 2: When I give one shout out before the show ends today,

1839
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: I know we're up against it. Mikey, don't worry, and

1840
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: in fact, please put the camera on me for just

1841
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 2: one second, if you may give me a bit of

1842
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: a solo shot here. So I wanted to tell the

1843
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 2: audience something. I don't know if they'll care, but I care.

1844
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 2: So I wanted to let them know. I've been working

1845
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: on in Aeryl Spence scouting report. It has been turned in.

1846
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna get that to you, I think in a

1847
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: matter of days. I'm really excited about it because I

1848
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 2: had to do a lot of work to get it done.

1849
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 2: I didn't have the best process for it, and it

1850
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 2: was supposed to be turned in a while ago when

1851
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: we had to get it delayed. Let me just say

1852
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 2: thank you. Right now, he's sitting in the studio, Mikey,

1853
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: our producer from CBS. When I say bailed me out,

1854
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: I mean bailed me out, folks. That project would not

1855
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: see the light of day if it were not for

1856
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: the intrepid, versatile Johnny on the spot help from our

1857
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: producer Mikey. Mikey, that was huge. What you did for

1858
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 2: the MK fans huge, What you did for me huge,

1859
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 2: What you did for our coverage of the sport and

1860
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 2: this particular fight. I cannot thank you enough. Again, would

1861
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: not have happened but for Mikey making it happen. Thank you.

1862
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 2: My guy could not be more appreciative.

1863
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we joke about Mikey's THHD levels sometimes, but what

1864
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 3: a great human being.

1865
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 2: He's probably hitting the bong and he missed that while

1866
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 2: I gave the thing, but at least the audience heard. Yeah.

1867
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 3: I will say this, Mikey bleeds for this brand and

1868
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 3: just like a p one would and I love that

1869
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 3: from him, So thank you very much. CBS Sports also

1870
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 3: a great job today, Luke. I like our refresh graphics.

1871
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 3: Jason and Geneva goods. Thank you on the ones and twes.

1872
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 3: Final reminder along with Luke Thomas next Saturday night a

1873
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 3: week from tomorrow giving the MK post show for Spence Crawford.

1874
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: You'll have me on UFC after Justin versus Dustin two

1875
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 3: and this Tuesday, my birthday, eight am Eastern. It starts.

1876
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 3: It's Stephen Fulton Junior. It's Niowa in a way, It's

1877
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 3: on ESPN Plus, it's four the Unified Junior Brotherway Championship

1878
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: and the pound for pound number one kind of potentially

1879
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 3: on the line here. The winner will have a big

1880
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 3: say moving forward. I'll be with you afterwards on Tuesday

1881
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 3: Live Low Late Breaking to react for our great team

1882
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 3: at CBS Sports show Time, all of our fantastic people

1883
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, and for my co host Luke Thomas.

1884
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: It's been fantastic these ninety minutes. Thank you. Enjoy the

1885
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 3: fights this weekend London tomorrow afternoon and all that. And

1886
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 3: then some tall, pale and handsome it's your bet boy

1887
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 3: BC checking out and reminding you tip your waitresses. But

1888
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 3: remember one thing about them at the end of the day,

1889
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 3: they'd have never been loyal. They don't even know how

1890
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 3: to be. We out