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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft showy on

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Speaker 1: your war room for insider news and draft analysis from

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Speaker 1: deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rand.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys is elect and now your hosts, Dame Brugler,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, and Brian brought us. Well, it's day two

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Combine, the twenty eighteen version of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine here from the Indiana Convention Center in Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us Dame Brugler, David Hellman, King Garrison, Executive Producing. Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: John Dorsey told you today you can have the number

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Speaker 1: one pick of the draft if you like. Quekel Brown's

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Speaker 1: opened up to open up to trading for They said

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Speaker 1: that if they're open for business. No, I can't convince

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Speaker 1: you guys going up there again, you have everybody loves

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Speaker 1: the conversations we have when when you try to convince us,

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Speaker 1: I try to give here, I why not go ahead

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Speaker 1: and going up to the number one. John Dorsey did

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Speaker 1: what our general manager should do, and that he makes

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Speaker 1: it known that the phone lines are open, but that

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Speaker 1: does not mean they're willing to deal by any means.

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Speaker 1: You don't think no, I mean, you say it and

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Speaker 1: if someone blows you away, but someone's got to blow

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Speaker 1: you away, Okay, you guys, you guys can't come up

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Speaker 1: with something to blow them away. Four guards and oh

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. Yesterday we get discussion quarter No, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to talk about we were talking about Zach Martin yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of a worst draft to go up

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Speaker 1: to number one unless you need a quarterback. That's the

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Speaker 1: point I was trying to get you to say, right there,

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Speaker 1: David Helen, there you go, Yeah, thank you. I was

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Speaker 1: trying to go a little bit around about away about

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Speaker 1: saying this though, but you know, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: hate when you say it's a bad draft. I hate

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Speaker 1: when people say that though. It's not a bad draft.

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Speaker 1: It's not a bad drap. No, it's just the we

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Speaker 1: don't have a lot of blue chippers. It's a bad fund,

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Speaker 1: that's what you know. But we're learning that today about

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Speaker 1: some guys. Today was really the first day that tomorrow

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Speaker 1: the on the field stuff will happen. The actual physical testing, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know with the forties and the shuttles and all

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Speaker 1: those things. You'll see that tomorrow on the various platforms

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Speaker 1: in NFL network, I believe has that for you coverage,

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Speaker 1: so you can take care of that. But today we

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Speaker 1: did see the bench press stuff. And what was interesting

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Speaker 1: today is the guys that we kind of thought about,

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Speaker 1: the guys that we've talked the most about, the Quinton

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Speaker 1: not a lot of not a lot of spice, you know,

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Speaker 1: through this thing in the top. But it seems like

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Speaker 1: the guys that people are looking at studying hard, those

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Speaker 1: guys are kind of rising to the occasion. One thing

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Speaker 1: to say about the bench press that needs to be said, Uh,

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Speaker 1: while yes it does measure strength, a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: use it more as a way to gauge a player's

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Speaker 1: work ethic. How much do they push themselves in the

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Speaker 1: weight room. I think that that's more of a reflective

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Speaker 1: than just you know, because a guy could be strong

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Speaker 1: So I think what the bench press does here is

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Speaker 1: show teams, Okay, what guys really pushed themselves in the

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Speaker 1: weight room. Uh, they maxed themselves out. And you know

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Speaker 1: we saw today a guy we expected to Will Hernandez

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Speaker 1: the most so far, and sae Quon Barkley at twenty nine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've said it. I think I've done so many interviews

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Speaker 1: done with it. Two hundred and thirty three pounds put

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Speaker 1: as well. Only five offensive lineman had better numbers on

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Speaker 1: just that's saying something just how much he works at

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Speaker 1: it and of course how powerful he is. You surprised

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Speaker 1: running back from yeah, from Sanao State, and he admitted

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Speaker 1: that he's a poor pass blocker. Now, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: really the main question with him. Yeah, what what you know,

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Speaker 1: what the what are the questions about all these guys?

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Speaker 1: You know, And that's what The combine is so great

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Speaker 1: hide from it. He understands that's a weakness right now,

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Speaker 1: and he said, I'm not ashamed to admit my flaws,

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Speaker 1: and so he understands that's and that's key because all

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Speaker 1: these players have something wrong. I mean, all these players

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Speaker 1: have weaknesses, but the smart ones recognize it and they're

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Speaker 1: willing to work at it. It's not everyone does. It's

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Speaker 1: the scouts job to have an idea what those weaknesses

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Speaker 1: do what it takes to correct him. And it's the

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Speaker 1: job of the player to self scout and understand, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do I need to work on? Uh? And I

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Speaker 1: think we're shy Penny. He understands he's not the best

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Speaker 1: we documented that we love the player and absolutely get

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Speaker 1: to the pass protection reps on tape and you just

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Speaker 1: oh no, oh no, not again. Yeah, it just over

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Speaker 1: the workout part of it tomorrow, and we've kind of

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Speaker 1: documented some guys that didn't need to have some good days.

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Speaker 1: But I'll talk about a guy that didn't bench today,

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Speaker 1: was Win like Georgia Guard Isaiah Win. And now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, okay, why did he not bench? Well,

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, so okay. After the Senior yeah he was.

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Speaker 1: my god, he'll yeah, he's a bomb players man. He'll

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Speaker 1: he'll lift at the Pro Day and you know, all

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Speaker 1: will be fine. I speaking of, you know, injuries and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Billy Price. Billy Price one of the top centers in

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Speaker 1: his draft, probably the second best center in the in

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Speaker 1: the draft. It'll probably be number one for some teams

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Speaker 1: at center. You know, take Daniels, you're a fool. This

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Speaker 1: is a guy who has shorter arms, thirty two inch arms. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Billy belly to belly blocker. That's what he is. Let's school.

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Speaker 1: Plus he's very strong, so I think he would have

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Speaker 1: hit forty on the bench press today. But after three

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Speaker 1: And so we're waiting word on what the know, the

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Speaker 1: severity of the injury. Is it something that we have

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Speaker 1: you know, this week, but just something to note with

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Speaker 1: Billy Price, a very good player, a chance to be

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Speaker 1: a first round pick who unfortunately the bench press uh

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Speaker 1: just kind of going through your and you're right, it's

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Speaker 1: fact that they're going to compete, you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: the talent that right, It sucks when somebody gets hurt

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Speaker 1: doing Can can I talk about these offensive lineman and

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Speaker 1: I and I brought up Daniels, James Daniels. Can we

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Speaker 1: talk about him as a potential pick at nineteen? Again

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Speaker 1: if you don't want to take win, if you don't

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Speaker 1: and do you does James Daniel should he be in

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Speaker 1: that mix? So you know, Jason, excuse me, Stephen Jones said,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, if it's a potentially as Zach Martin

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Speaker 1: this that does make sense. This guy's the best center

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Speaker 1: in the draft, though, But would you play him at

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Speaker 1: could you play him at guard? And feel and feel

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Speaker 1: very comfortable about that at nineteen If he's the best

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Speaker 1: like to believe that he could do that, then Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's extra appealing to me because you're probably gonna need

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Speaker 1: a backup center anyway. I don't think Joe Looney's long

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Speaker 1: even at the combine at this point we've done like

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Speaker 1: twenty of these shows. It's still early. But I'm just

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Speaker 1: starting to get this feeling like it ain't gonna be

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Speaker 1: as Alignment one technique. No, we're I'm getting this feeling

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Speaker 1: like we're not going to be in love with our

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Speaker 1: Last year we had a great deal and well last

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate. I wouldn't hate Hurst as a pick.

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Speaker 1: just saying, though, man, I get what you guys are

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Speaker 1: touched on this in the first segment. Kevin wants to

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Speaker 1: know could a torn peck, which we said, we don't

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Speaker 1: think it's a torn peck. Could a torn peck drop

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Speaker 1: Billy Price into the fifty range? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about but you're taking about an injury. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: draft him and then when would you get him back?

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Speaker 1: That would be And I'm again, i I'm like Dane,

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Speaker 1: he said earlier I'm not a doctor, and I've been

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Speaker 1: like a six month injury. Yeah, I mean you're talking

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Speaker 1: about he you know, and when he's when he gets back,

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Speaker 1: when he's done, he might not be you know, ready

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Speaker 1: for snaps right away. So I think best case scenario,

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Speaker 1: you're probably looking at October, you know, like a second

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Speaker 1: half of the season. It's a pup for sure, I believe, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's like you're talking about all the training

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Speaker 1: the season. So I mean that that would be a

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Speaker 1: very difficult thing. This this football team players, you know,

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Speaker 1: but they've never shied away from the y. Again, those

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Speaker 1: right in my rear, yeah, you know, and reminded me

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Speaker 1: without that. So yeah, but that's a good question. But

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Speaker 1: not know, we don't think. So hopefully tomorrow he will

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Speaker 1: be on that field running around. Hopefully. Hopefully here's a Brian,

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Speaker 1: I know how you like creative questions out of the bucks.

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Speaker 1: Michael's got one that I like. Uh, he wants to

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Speaker 1: know if you get wiped out, you draft Connor Williams

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Speaker 1: at nineteen and maybe play him at guard. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who think Connor Williams is a

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Speaker 1: guard around the league, Brian included, clearly. But this is

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Speaker 1: also a player who's never thanking for that question, sir.

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Speaker 1: He's never played guard in his life. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: think he could never in high school. Never got a

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Speaker 1: guard body. Uh yeah, six five two ninety six, like

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Win has a guard body. Isaiah Win looks like

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Speaker 1: a guard. Connor Williams to me, he's a square guy day.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't a team play tackle? Um? Now, thirty

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Speaker 1: three arms not ideal for a tackle. You want closer

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Speaker 1: at least over thirty four, closer to thirty five. But uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys like Joe Thomas, I've shown that you

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Speaker 1: can have shorter arms. You just just hit me right

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Speaker 1: in the gut with that one, didn't you. Well, I've

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Speaker 1: learned Connor Williams is Uh. I'm trying him at tackle.

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Speaker 1: But if a team drafts him for guard, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if that's what they need, I don't think that's wrong.

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Speaker 1: What is your thought? About if a team takes a

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Speaker 1: tackle with the attent of moving him from tackle to guard,

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Speaker 1: let him play tackle first and then kick him inside. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think with a lot of these guys, uh,

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Speaker 1: you're you're gonna know during the private workouts. Uh, you

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Speaker 1: know whether he can do it. You know, like you

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Speaker 1: don't like a guy like Connor Williams. He needs I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying in general, the thought of drafting a tackle, okay,

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Speaker 1: but then playing him a guard. It didn't work out

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Speaker 1: great for chat Green, right, I mean, I think it

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Speaker 1: just depends on the player. A guy like make Chas

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Speaker 1: Green was a tackle all the way. But that's the

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Speaker 1: coach admitted that it depends. It depends on the player.

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Speaker 1: Because a guy like Mike McGlinchey, who's a better I

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Speaker 1: mean he's tall, he's sixty eight, sure, but he's a

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Speaker 1: better run defender than he is pass protector. I think

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Speaker 1: he could play guard. A guy like Tyroll Crosby, who

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Speaker 1: played guard kind of love or played tackle at Oregon,

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Speaker 1: he could move inside and play guard. I think we

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Speaker 1: talked about Corbit too. I mentioned him a bunch, But

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Speaker 1: you're talking about really special players though you're too much

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Speaker 1: special I think Cross nineteen corbit on the on the

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Speaker 1: bench a little disappointed. You know what, I think Zach

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Speaker 1: Martin had like that too, Not Zack Martin, Travis Frederick,

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Speaker 1: Trevis Fredick was really terrible workout. Terrible workout shows what

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Speaker 1: we know. Hey, but trust the tape, trust the tape. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I neither one of y'all answered the question. Yes, yes, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I'm not. No. Connor Williams is okay,

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Speaker 1: a good player, Okay, I okay, Oh but if he

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Speaker 1: can't he said the board was wiped out. Do you

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Speaker 1: like Connor Williams is a is a wipeout pick? No,

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be better player? Okay, you think is

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore will be on that board? I would take

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore over him. Yeah, I'm saying I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't envision a scenario where Connor Williams will be my

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Speaker 1: best player available at nineteen. He said he can't get

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Speaker 1: wiped out to the point where Connor Williams is the

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Speaker 1: best bet. Right Wait, wait, campaign manager over here, six

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Speaker 1: sounds that was back. He's got translate. Gang up on

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Speaker 1: me because you make it easy. It's true, I do

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Speaker 1: make it easy, don't I King like to make you think.

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Speaker 1: King wants to know, in light of what we learned today,

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Speaker 1: more likely at nineteen DJ Moore or Calvin Ridley? What's more?

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Speaker 1: What's a more likely option? I think people will see

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Speaker 1: Ridley as a better player. Well, I think, But he's

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Speaker 1: asking what's more? For us? Why I got it? Do

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Speaker 1: you do you have? That's what I'm saying. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to say that I think Ridley will keep taken before more.

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Speaker 1: Is it easier to imagine Ridley falling to nineteen or DJ?

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Speaker 1: I'm interested say that a wait wait wait, wait stop

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Speaker 1: stop stop stop stop. All this love for Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 1: now has been is being questioned. No, I just I've

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Speaker 1: said this from the start. Oh you have. You've been

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Speaker 1: very clear about your love for Calvin Ridley. But with

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley's one hundred and ninety pounds and I think

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Speaker 1: there's a plenty of teams that are not going to

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Speaker 1: see you like that two hundred and fifteen pound guy

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Speaker 1: running out there. It's now six foot right. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that more is gonna go over Ridley.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that a team in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to agree with you, but all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing doubt. I've always had that doubt. I've never

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Speaker 1: ruled out Ridley at nineteen. I'm saying it's possible because

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Speaker 1: again the same thing with Roquan Smith. Teams love measurables,

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Speaker 1: and neither Roquan or Ridley are going to have ideal

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Speaker 1: measurables when teams look for a top fifteen player. If

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Speaker 1: you're a cowboy fan, who you who? You're just hoping

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Speaker 1: Ridley or Smith. But it gets there to you. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Smith's a top ten player for me in this route.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Calvin Ridley is two, but Smith, gimme Smith.

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Speaker 1: But Ridley again, he's one hundred and ninety pounds, and

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Speaker 1: I think that will scare some teams. That is the

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Speaker 1: number one concern with him before we the way is eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's one hundred niney pound athlete.

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Speaker 1: That's I think Marvin Harrison, Calvin Ridley. There's plenty of

627
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Speaker 1: undersized receivers that are doing great things in the league,

628
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Speaker 1: but again, so many teams are locked into the thought

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Speaker 1: of getting a specific type of player in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: So and one hundred ninety pound wide receivers. Not one

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Speaker 1: of those I want. I want Cashi a real quick question,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, did you hear some doubt? No? See, I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say, Brian jumps on any sign of waffling

634
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: like a shark on blood in the white. He's just like,

635
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 1: what are you backtracking? Because I'm gonna murder you if

636
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't think Dane backtracked at all. You're

637
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: just trying to find something to argue Ridley. I think

638
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: he was like number ten overall my board, So I

639
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: mean I would take him somewhere in that in that

640
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, ten to twelve range, But I'm thinking other

641
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: teams are going he's not gonna fit in that neat

642
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: little box, and so Ridley could be there at nineteen.

643
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: I think he makes too much sense at what sixteen

644
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: to the Ravens. Sure we know how much Aussie knew.

645
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Some loves those outlays. They need that they need a

646
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver. That makes a lot of sense. But it

647
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: would not shock me at all if Calvin Realley is

648
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: there at nineteen. So you think it's more realistic that

649
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: Ridley falls to nineteen than more jumps that high up. Yes, okay,

650
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: that's that. That's all we needed, Brian, that's all we needed.

651
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: In your opinion of that is damp for what it's worth.

652
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Can't you can clip this out for a future years?

653
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I love to see how I like to see? How

654
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: do I just want to fight? You know what? Commitment?

655
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: It is? Absolute commitment is what I like. Calvin Ridley

656
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: is the number one right wide receiver in this class

657
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: by default, like by default, you know what? You know

658
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: what I don't see. You don't think he's a good player.

659
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't. It's not learned that the best bro. He's

660
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: just he's not. He's not worth getting like excited about.

661
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: This might be a receiving crew that has some depth

662
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: throughout that are going to turn out to be some

663
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: pretty good players. I think there are more questions about

664
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: is that guy a slot player? Can he play outside?

665
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: How many of those guys do we have? Are we

666
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: seeing slought players here? Are we seeing Kirk Anthony Miller? Yeah,

667
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: there's plenty of them. Yeah, it's ibsand how many? But

668
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: how many true outside ones? You see? Danny even said it,

669
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: he said, hey, this guy might be Cower really might

670
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: be a two. Yeah, and That's why I love him

671
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, because he's a perfect Z for this offense.

672
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: I think what he can do compliments Dez. It helps Dez,

673
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: it helps Dak, it helps the run game. I think

674
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: it's a perfect fit for this offense. He can be

675
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: a high end two and again that's not a negative.

676
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: That still means he could be a top twenty wide

677
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: receiver in this league. But no, I think you're right

678
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: about the overall point about not having a there's not

679
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: an Aj Green Julio Jones. But that's where Courtland Sutton

680
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: comes in. And this is why it's a big week

681
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: for Courtland Sutton said this. He has number one traits,

682
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: uh and just you worry about the transition from college

683
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: the pro level, it's a big week for him to

684
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: show what's his forty you know, how how well is

685
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: he going to test? That's gonna go to a long

686
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: way into a team figuring out if they are willing

687
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: to invest a top forty pick in the Courtland Sun.

688
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: Can I ask one more scout question of my scouts

689
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott? What you know about Dak Prescott? Which

690
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: receiver best fits how he throws the football Between more

691
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: and Ridley. You know my answer because I've been consistent

692
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: with what I think about that. It's not that I

693
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: think they both work, but I just I just really

694
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: like DJ Moore for a variety of reasons, one of

695
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: them being that I think he fits that. I think

696
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: he's got the hands and the ability to separate that

697
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: make that work. So both are available at nineteen. Who

698
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: are you taking? He's taken more? Yeah, that's what I mean.

699
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: I've gone. Oh no, he hey Dane, and I retweeted,

700
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: he he know he's gone too. He got right Yeah,

701
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: got right behind the road. He got right behind the

702
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: wheel and started pointing down the highway. Gone too far

703
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: down this road to turn around. I just want to

704
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: ask you, though, of what you what you scouted both players? Yeah,

705
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: which player is a better fit for a quarterback that

706
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: might have some curcy questions? I think it's Ridley because

707
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: he can get open and he's going to present the

708
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: quarterback with an open target. I think his place speed

709
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 1: and his route running, and that's what's so special about Ridley.

710
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: The place being. The route running is going to create space,

711
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to He's gonna make it tough

712
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: for you to miss him because he's going to sit

713
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: down in an open zone, give you a clear target,

714
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: just aim for the numbers. He's not gonna be a

715
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: guy that's going to struggle to get open. And that's

716
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: where with DJ Moore, as much as I like him,

717
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: he can. I think that's what we're expecting and that's

718
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: not a bad thing. Again, DJ Moore is my number

719
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: two receiver. I've been talking about Dj more since the fall,

720
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: and sure, yeah, I think people more and more people

721
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: started to catch on how good he is. I would

722
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: love him on my football team. I would love Calvin

723
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: Ridley a little more. Yeah, he's right, he's not. I mean,

724
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: I hear you. Hey, I was just no, I was

725
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: just curious because both guys, I mean to me, maybe

726
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: More might be a little bit better bad ball catcher consistency. Yeah,

727
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: if you think, if you think that, if you see

728
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: what you're saying with that, this is what I'm trying

729
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: to go with. And I understand why he likes More

730
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: because you see circus plays with bad quarterbacks. So if

731
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback, that's not accurate. If you're not

732
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: if you're playing with quarterbacks, it's not accurate. Or has

733
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: questions of accuracy. Wouldn't More make a lot of sense.

734
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: DJ Moore kind of passed from eight different quarterbacks sure,

735
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: in the last three years. I mean, we're all so

736
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: we're all in agreement. Is trying to go though? I mean,

737
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: if Dj More goes your team with a bad quarterback,

738
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: he still has chances to have productivity. I think, let me,

739
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: he's used to play with a bad quarterback. Let's break

740
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: this downboy, don't have a bad quarterback. No, I'm just saying, though, Okay,

741
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: way to go. Dane boils down to brass tacks real quick?

742
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: Is this really realistic? Like? Are we just lost in

743
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: like a combine fantasy right now? We're talking about we're

744
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: talking about DJ Moore as maybe lasting to fifty but

745
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: probably not two weeks ago. And now we're just like

746
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: nineteen or bus No, no, no, because we're trying you're

747
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: trying to think about who's your second best receiver on

748
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, and I think that if Ridley, if

749
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: Ridley's gone and you and you get to that situation

750
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: at nineteen where you don't like any of those players, Yeah,

751
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: maybe they'd like him as much as we do. But

752
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is we clearly like him a lot.

753
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: And I guess my point is, do they or will

754
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: they really like to do that? I kind of lean

755
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: more toward no. Can't wait till the thirty visits. By

756
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: the way, it's a good point. Yeah, give me those

757
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: thirty visites. I'll tell you exactly who they like. We'll

758
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: get those shifting gears a little bit. Great question, by

759
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: the way, Brett wants to know. Wait, hey, keeping our

760
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: options open, right, Brett wants to know who's who's a

761
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: better fit for this team? Harold Landry or Marcus Davenport.

762
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: I don't Landry just doesn't seem to fit what they

763
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: look for in an edge rusher. Not really. I said this.

764
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: I said this to Kevin Turner earlier today, like he

765
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: loves Harold Landry? I said, why are you doing that

766
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: to yourself? Why are you falling in love with that guy?

767
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: A year after what happened with t J. Watt? Harold

768
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: Andrews can come in probably six o one six two

769
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two pounds, But after after what happened

770
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: with t J. Watt, why are you falling in love

771
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: with a tweener? They're trying, they're yeah, they're screaming at

772
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: you that they don't want to kt KT saw he

773
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: had lost it in the first room last year. Hey,

774
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: this isn't about no I'm serious. This isn't about how

775
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: well that you can evaluate players. But he says he's

776
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: telling the Cowboys basically to stick it because there's there's

777
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: people that could that rush the passer they don't like.

778
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself. Yeah, I trust y'all's opinions.

779
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: I think y'all are great. At the end of the day,

780
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: I don't care about your opinion because I want to

781
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do, right, That's what I want

782
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: to know. There's no doubt about that. There's no dabta.

783
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: He looks like an NFL defensive end for sure. He

784
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: is a budding superstar, you hope, a huge bust. All

785
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: these guys have bus potentialists. That's what I'm saying. But

786
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: you know it's but I can understand why why Katie's

787
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: gonna die on that hill. I can sure because because

788
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: again he had he had lost it in the first

789
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: round last year. We did it with t J. Watt

790
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: last year, and yeah, exactly, we all agree that t J.

791
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: Watt would be a better player. But That doesn't mean

792
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: that you know this team is going to change their

793
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: philosophy when it comes to But I am eager to

794
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: see what Harold Landry how long his arms are, because

795
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: when you watch him on tape, there are times when

796
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: you see him extend into rushers use that length to

797
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: his advantage. He is more than just a speed demon

798
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: around the edge. So I am eager to see what

799
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: he weighs in. It can say it? How about that?

800
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: How about how wrong? How about to take his thirty

801
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: five and a half inch arms and put it on

802
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: somebody that Yeah, like a rusher? That would have fun.

803
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: He's a good rusher to the guy who's who's short,

804
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: But he's not small. He's not small right at all.

805
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: Jordan wants to know if offensive line is the pick

806
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: at nineteen, Dane would have a fit. Well, no, I wouldn't.

807
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: What should the next pick be? If offensive line is

808
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: the pick at night, give it to him. It has

809
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: to be defense? Is yeah, defense you're going with? Please

810
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: take Golden if he's there. Probably we look at linebacker,

811
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: defensive tackle or safety and really just who's the highest

812
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: graded player there? Uh? Vander esh from Boise State. I

813
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't think he'll be there at fifty. Um,

814
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: Golden could be there in the discussion. Uh, and then

815
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: maybe one of our nose tackle we've been talking about,

816
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean, would you. I don't think either of us

817
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: would be upset to see so not go that high. No, Uh,

818
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: he's in that mix. And I don't think he's a

819
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: true nose tackle. I think he could play three. Yeah,

820
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: he's got trades, he's he falls under the trades. He's

821
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: not a statue. He can move. So yeah, I think

822
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: you look at defense, you look at uh, you know,

823
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: up the middle with defensive tackle, linebacker, safety is the

824
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: most like Harrison. Harrison would make some sense there at

825
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: fifty if he was there, wouldn't he Well, I just

826
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: don't see him available, But yeah, make like quite a

827
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: fall for Ronnie Harrison. Are you talking about Yeah, Oh,

828
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Harrison Phillips. No, No, uh, Alabama's safety. Yeah,

829
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: I still doubt he'd be there. But and especially because

830
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: the safety class is so weak, like I think we

831
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: all agree, Harrison will be the second safety drafted. I

832
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: would I would be pretty shocked the second safety does

833
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: not come off the board until the fiftieth pick. Yeah,

834
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: that seems surprising to me. Can I get Can I

835
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: give you one more? Ye? Got u again? In the

836
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: name of expanding our options, it's to expand your option.

837
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: Show today here at the combine pick number nineteen. DJ

838
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: Moore or Josh Jackson haven't talked about him at all.

839
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know how realistic that is. This team

840
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: can't draft a corner right in the first round, Why

841
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: the hell not? If you start at corners already, if

842
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: you if you're if if crowded, Yeah, I mean they

843
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: had they said they haven't talked about moving Byron Jones

844
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: to corner yet there well, they have hope for Anthony Brown.

845
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: If you're if you're gonna make me pick a corner,

846
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm taking Hughes. Is this or isn't this a passing league? No,

847
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if if, if our guys are gone,

848
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: if depending on what you think about Wards gone, Fitzpatrick gone,

849
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: If you're gonna make me pick a corner, the my

850
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: third best corner on the board is Hughes from Mikey

851
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: is from the UCF. That's just agree. I agree. So,

852
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make me pick a corner, I'm not

853
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: taking Jackson I'm taking hughes, but would you do it

854
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: if you I mean, you're wiped out. Let's say you're

855
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: wiped out. I take, I take more. I just don't

856
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: think this team is gonna take a corner. It does.

857
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I meant, if we all, we all sort of think

858
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: Byron Jones is probably gonna get a look at corner.

859
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: Why has everybody fallen in love with Jackson? The Iowa

860
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: corner I led the he led all of college football

861
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: and passes defendant and interceptions. That's two reasons right there.

862
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just asking when you watch the tape.

863
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: He's got some struggles in man, but I think for

864
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: a zone heavy team where he has a chance to

865
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: keep the receiver in front of him, use those instincts

866
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: that he has. And he's not a bad athlete. He

867
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: just there are some holes in man coverage. But for

868
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: a zone heavy team, absolutely, I'd draft him in the

869
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: first round. So it just depends on the team and

870
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: the fit, uh for him. I don't. I'm not as

871
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: high on him as others, but for the right team,

872
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not. But I understand. I understand what you're

873
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: saying there, I really do. I just I get I

874
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: can't get over Desmond King in my head. You know

875
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: he's a good player. What's your No, I can't get

876
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: over how great Desmond King was and how what this

877
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: guy is. And Desmond King has made plays. He went

878
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, and Jackson is gonna go in

879
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: the first. Desmond King should have gone the first, idiot

880
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: NFL should have he should he should he should have.

881
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, should have gone a lot higher

882
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: than he did. No question. Everybody's worried about Oh you know,

883
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: oh he doesn't run well, he's got a drink, he's

884
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: got a drinking round. He does not drinking from at all.

885
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: You pick six, Dak Prescott. You gotta get anymore over there? Yeah,

886
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: I do. Um Austin wants to know idea. We've talked

887
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: about this, but we'll revisit it. Idealistic day three running

888
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: back fits rounds four to seven running backs. They're gonna

889
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: pick what one, two, three, four we talked about six

890
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: times in the on the third day. Does Walton go

891
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: well before the fourth? Yeah, he's gone. Kelly gone before

892
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: the fourth? No, I think Kelly is a possibility. I

893
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: don't think it's a for sure that he's gone finds.

894
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: We've talked about him North Carolina State, right, Yeah, who's

895
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: the player player? I don't think we've talked about much.

896
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: Josh Adams from Notre Dame that Davey wants me to

897
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: watch Josh Haddens. Really you should, and I've seen him.

898
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: I've seen him on tape before. That knee brace scares me.

899
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 1: He's got that knee brace song and beat up. Yeah,

900
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: see that worries me. But watch him go. He'll light

901
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: the league up. Now, we're not asking him to carry

902
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: the ball twenty five times. But I just want a

903
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: healthy guy. I want a healthy runner because you know

904
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do with a runner. I'm gonna use

905
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: him for four or five years than discard him. But

906
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: but you're not. You're not asking him to be the be.

907
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: But I wanted to be healthy to start out with

908
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: so I could use him all the time. Well, what

909
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: it was is he tours ACL as a sophomore in

910
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: high school. Yeah, and still wears this knee brace. It's

911
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: just a protective thing. Right, that's at this scary. That's

912
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 1: I will watch the player. You should, but that's also

913
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: you know we're talking about the fourth, fifth round. Now

914
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, so at a certain point you take the

915
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: risk depending on Let me ask you guys a question,

916
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 1: fourth round, what what player? What position? Not what player?

917
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: What position would you absolutely take in the fourth round?

918
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: Is there a position that you would take that you like?

919
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: You know what I feel like this fourth round is

920
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: that could be a good round for this position. I

921
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: might be running back. I mean, I think you know

922
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: we've mentioned Daryl Williams, John Kelly uh some of these

923
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: other Josh Adams. I think all will be there in

924
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: the fourth round. And like just what you do with

925
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Dak last, you know a couple of years two years ago,

926
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: you just take a fourth round guy? Is it a quarterback?

927
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: Who's your fourth round quarterback? We talked about Luke Fawk

928
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: on this show as a guy. Yeah, do you do

929
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: you not have it? Do not have a legitimate guy

930
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: after those top five? No? I mean, I think Kyle

931
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: Loletta from Richmond. If you're bad in the bo, if

932
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: you're looking for a quarterback in the fourth, fifth round,

933
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: that's your guy. He's not Jimmy Garoppolo. I've heard those

934
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: comparisons is ludicrous. Jimmy Garppolo is a much better player

935
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: when he's coming out of Eastern Illinois. Lolette is a

936
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: good player though, and he's very efficient. He's very smart.

937
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: He's not gonna hurt you. Uh. Doesn't have elite physical traits,

938
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: but he he understands what his job is and he

939
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: maximizes his potential. How about cornerback. Yeah, we're talking about

940
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: this being a deep corner class, and sure I agree

941
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: with you. At the end of the day, you don't

942
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: want to take a corner in the first round on

943
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: this team. Try to find the next Anthony Brown, find

944
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: some youth. Maybe maybe you don't. Have you talked about

945
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: the Sai. Where's Whitehead from pitt Goes? He a third

946
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: round guy? I think so, But I think he's gonna

947
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: perform well here at the combine. Um, maybe I'm too

948
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: high on him. Um, one kind like we were with

949
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods. Yeah maybe maybe I think one guy a

950
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: corner who's getting overlooked. Um, I don't. We probably said

951
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: his name on the Draft show. Yeah, but DJ Reid

952
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: from Kansas State, Oh yeah, yeah, I've watched him. Yeah,

953
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: certainly have not heard that name, as he'd be your

954
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: your Orlando Scandric ok undersized slot guy who he's got

955
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: ball skills, he's got some speed. Uh he's been you know,

956
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: kind of labeled his undersize his whole life out of

957
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: high school. Had to go to Fresno State. Coaches didn't

958
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: believe on him, so he went to JUCO, goes to

959
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Kansas State and he just lights it up for Bill Snyder.

960
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: So sounds like he might be a chip on his

961
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: shoulder kind of absolutely much like Dan Danis. I've just

962
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: reading my notes on him because I say, I watched

963
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: him against UCLA in Kansas and you're right, the movement's

964
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: not back. It turned quickly wrap up as a tackler

965
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: plays with a burst, has ketchup speed, has feels, how

966
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: to play routes. I mean IM not afraid to step

967
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: up tackle. I mean yeah, but he's fighting the measurements

968
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: that we were going off of five away, five one

969
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: eighty eight and we'll see what he is here. Uh,

970
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: he'll be six foot here if they move on from

971
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: Orlando Scandrick. He's a name to know that you could

972
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: fit that role. DJ Read Kansas State. Another one who

973
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: we talked about before. You know, if you're okay with

974
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: who he is off the field. Holton Hill, Texas one

975
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: of my favorites. He's like him. I think he's a

976
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: second round player just based on talent, but you do

977
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: worry about the off field and reliability. But in the

978
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: fourth round, maybe the value is there. You feel comfortable,

979
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: all right, I got real quick. Sure this is a

980
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: Dane special And I'm only asking it because it plays

981
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: so well with what we're just talking about. Because Ed

982
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: wants to know why aren't we talking about Georgia's safety

983
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: Dominic Sanders productive player at Georgia over his career. He's

984
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: got I think, more of a size of a corner

985
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: like he's not the biggest safety, but he's rangey and

986
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: he's played. He's a four year starter. He's played a

987
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: lot of football in the SEC. I see him as

988
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: more of a late round guy. But yeah, when you're fifth, sixth,

989
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: seventh round and you're looking for a safety, he's one

990
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: of the names to be on the shortlist. What I mean,

991
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: corner nickel maybe? Could? I mean we saw Xavier Woods

992
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: do that this team. I don't know. I've never seen

993
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: him back pedal. I've never seen him I have to

994
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: consistently transition. So he played really really deep at times. Yeah, yeah,

995
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: but a guy that when he has a chance to

996
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: pick the ball off. He he did. I mean he

997
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: took advantage of those opportunities. He had had a really

998
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: good career for defense that you know, we saw good

999
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,560
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1000
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,799
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Speaker 1: was a good and some unimpressive numbers from the offensive lineman.

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00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: Mister lsu Hey. They he needs to be said, Darius

1052
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: Guys fifteen reps, which is half of what Sequon Barkley did.

1053
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: So what I mean, Okay, Oh ask you this though,

1054
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: if you're talking about Guys, would you would you say

1055
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: that he's not a strong player. No, I would say

1056
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: that's kind of the foundation of what he is as

1057
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: a runner, he say he runs pretty damn strong. No,

1058
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: and he talks about this is one of the best

1059
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: parts about the combine is being able to talk to

1060
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, it is great. Spent some time with

1061
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: Darius guys and he said four words when asked, Okay,

1062
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: who do you compare to uh in the NFL be

1063
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: smood skittles man. That was his response, which to that point,

1064
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Darius Guis's power comes from his lower body, like I

1065
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: like that dude, his legs or something else. And it's

1066
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. And it's not only just

1067
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: just the physical power, but it's the determination. It's he

1068
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: runs angry. You know, if he was one hundred and

1069
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: eighty pounds, he'd still run that same way. He would

1070
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: not change the way he runs. So I'm not too

1071
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: worried about the fifteen. I mean it really Again, like

1072
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: we said at the top of the show, I think

1073
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: the bench press, especially for some of these positions like

1074
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: running back, shows more about you know how often they're

1075
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: in the weight room and pushing themselves there. But no,

1076
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: this is uh, this is a player who he's deserving

1077
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 1: a first round consideration. Uh. You know, we He talked

1078
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: about how Marshawn Lynch, you know, he his favorite running

1079
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: back growing up Geis was Reggie Bush. But then when

1080
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: he started to watch more tape, he realized, Hey, Marshawn Lynch,

1081
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: that's how I run. I'm like him, and so, uh,

1082
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: you know he's really I mean, he understands that he's

1083
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: an angry runner, and he feeds off of that. He

1084
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: celebrates that. That's gonna be Okay. So I think it's

1085
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: universally agreed upon that se Quon Barkley is going by eight.

1086
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: By he's he's gone by pick eight at the absolute latest,

1087
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: give or take. Yeah, I'd say seven, okay, top ten, yeah,

1088
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: would you agree every the opinions of everybody else on

1089
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: the rest of these upper tier running backs is like,

1090
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: I can't come to a consensus at all. Some people,

1091
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: I mean, some people think Darius Guys is a top

1092
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: twenty pick. Some people think he's the second round pick.

1093
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: I think you could say the same thing about Ronald Jones,

1094
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: um who else? I think Carrie on Johnson's and that

1095
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: mag Nick Chubb, who, to be fair, Nick Chubb put

1096
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: twenty nine up. He matched sa Quon on the bench,

1097
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: So you know, we need to give Chubbs some love

1098
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 1: as well. This is a running back class where it's

1099
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, pick what you what you want at the

1100
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: running back position. You got like Nick Chubb is not flashy,

1101
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: but that lower body is so strong and he runs

1102
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: so balanced that he's going to break tackles. Uh, Sony

1103
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: Michelle's got a little bit of everything. And you know,

1104
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: we we love Ronald Jones and he came in at

1105
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and five pounds. He said today that by

1106
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: the Pro Day he wants to be two ten. I

1107
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: thought that was interesting because by the prode I mean

1108
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna run at the Pro Day. And if

1109
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: he wants to be a higher weight, how that's going

1110
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: to affect the way he can work out. He also

1111
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: we talked about he wasn't asked to do much pass

1112
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: protection right at USC. He talked about the playbook at

1113
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: USC not having a lot of running back routes right

1114
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: that he was a checkdown option, but he wasn't asked

1115
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: to run a lot of rounds as part of that offense.

1116
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: So these running backs are really interesting. How you know,

1117
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: if I told you one running back goes in the

1118
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: first round, I don't think any of us would be

1119
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: too surprised. If I told you three go in the

1120
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: first round, we wouldn't really be surprised. So it is

1121
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: really an interesting class to see the pecking order and

1122
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: how they come off the board. You need to have

1123
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: some teams fall in love with a couple of these

1124
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: guys absolutely push us some players down to nineteen. David,

1125
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: this is my favorite. You know this is your favorite

1126
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: time and the show when I do this? What's that? Oh? God,

1127
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: the measurements daning you with me today? Let's hear him?

1128
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: All right? How about this one? Am I gonna run down?

1129
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys thought, did anybody helped

1130
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: themselves or any surprises here? Quarterbacks? Josh Allen six four

1131
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: seven two thirty seven ten an eighth hand thirty three

1132
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: in a quarter talk scouting to me tennon an eighth hand.

1133
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: That's impressive, all right, you like that? Ten to eighth

1134
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: that's impressive. With Josh Allen, we we I think we

1135
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: had a good idea because we knew a senior Bowl measurement,

1136
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: so we had we had a good idea what he

1137
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: was gonna be. But some of these juniors, though, oh

1138
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: how about it? Get you in this one. Okay, you're

1139
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: ready for this one. What do you got Sam Darnell?

1140
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: H huh usc you know? Uh huh six O three

1141
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: three two twenty one nine and three eights on the

1142
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: hand thirty one thirty one arm and is the guy

1143
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: in a lot of fumbles and throughout his college career

1144
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: security there are you worried about? Okay? What was the

1145
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: hand size? Nine? Three is fine? I want at least nine,

1146
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: and preferably at least nine in a quarter coming out

1147
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: at nine yates, that's absolutely fine. I think his fumbles

1148
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: were more a carelessness issue than something that, you know,

1149
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: a hand sized issue, So those are solid numbers. Doesn't

1150
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: change my opinion of them at all. David Yep, Lamar Jackson,

1151
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: my guy, My guy too. I'm with you on this one.

1152
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: Bill Polley, and this one's for you. Six zo two

1153
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: two to sixteen nine and a half hands thirty three

1154
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: and an eighth arm measured a little better you think

1155
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: two sixteen seem I mean, he's a mobile guy, but

1156
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: it's a little light, it is, and I don't think Look,

1157
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: we compare these five pounds lighter than Sam Darnold, who

1158
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: looks like a brick out, but two sixteen just sounds

1159
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: so small. We talk about weights, but body type matters. Um,

1160
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about how a guy like Sam Darnold,

1161
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: how he's how many only five pounds five pounds two

1162
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: twenty one, but their body types are so different. Where

1163
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's lean and that's just how he's built. Sam Darnold,

1164
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: he's a little secretary like running around out there, you know, right,

1165
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: So we can talk about how there's only five pounds difference,

1166
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: but their body types are much different, and that that's

1167
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: definitely a partist. Here's a different body type for you.

1168
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield six zero zero five two fifteen. I think

1169
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: all his two fifteens in his rear lower body, and

1170
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: that's good. He needs that. Yeah, he takes hits in college.

1171
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna take hits in the NFL. He's an athletic

1172
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: guy though, Yeah, yeah, oh no doubt, yeah, part of

1173
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: his game. It's funny. Lamar Jackson, though, is one pound

1174
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: heavier than taller and only one pound heavier. Yeah, that's yeah.

1175
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking. You know, Baker Mayfield was like all

1176
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: anybody would talk about at the Senior Bowl because he

1177
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: was the guy. And that's I mean, I haven't even

1178
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: thought about him until right now because there's so many

1179
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: other guys here. Lamar Jackson two sixteen, I mean that's

1180
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: I still worry about the durability. He does not have

1181
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: a lot of body. I know he didn't get hurt

1182
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: or I shouldn't say that. He did not miss a

1183
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: start the last two years. I get that. But he's

1184
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna be taking harder hits the NFL, and he's just

1185
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: you worry about it. This is surprising to me considering

1186
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: how much you loved Teddy Bridgewater. But he wasn't a

1187
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna run the ball. He had a different game.

1188
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah they're completely different quarter but different game. But this

1189
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: guy's not gonna run the ball all the time. He's

1190
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: kidding me, you know he You don't think Lamar Jackson's

1191
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball a lot in the NFL, Then

1192
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: you're not drafting him in the first round. You're not

1193
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: drafting Lamar Jackson because he's a big time passer. You're

1194
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: drafting him because he's a big time athlete. You're draft

1195
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: to a passer. He I think he could pass, He's not.

1196
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: He can't. But it's the combination of the mobility and

1197
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: if Lamar Jackson is not was not an athlete, if

1198
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: he ran a six second forty, you're not drafting him

1199
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: in the first round. You're not. You're wrong, And I

1200
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: don't believe you if you say, yeah no. The thing

1201
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: about him is, though, but you watch him make plays.

1202
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: He not only may I think he makes he makes

1203
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: places with he makes place with his arm, and he

1204
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: makes place to this, and he does. But when you

1205
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: get the most excited about him on tape, it's when

1206
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: he's running the ball. It's when he's using that athleticism

1207
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: or even just not even just like running, you know,

1208
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage, but using his athleticism to

1209
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: buy himself more time. He's better athlete him or Watson Jackson.

1210
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: He's a better athlete. I mean that's not to say

1211
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson wasn't a good athlete, but I mean we're

1212
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: talking about the right handed version of like vic. That's

1213
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: who Lamar Jackson can be. You know what, to me,

1214
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: I was there, I live that. I live that one.

1215
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: It's shock I live that one. It's shocking to me

1216
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: that there's debate that Lamar Jackson should go in the

1217
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: top like twenty year or so picks. I mean he

1218
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: should go higher than that. Honestly. It just takes a

1219
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: team that's willing to adjust their offense to you know,

1220
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: what his skill set is. And look, we did you

1221
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: warm up to Mahomes? Was on Mahomes pretty quick. Let's

1222
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: it's the top fifty guy real quick. Let's look at

1223
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: Watson and what he did in Houston. How they adjusted

1224
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: the offense Watson's strengths. And that's what a team is

1225
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to do with Lamara Jackson. You yeah, what

1226
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: we're going in that the direction we're going now to

1227
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said yesterday that the game is trickling up.

1228
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: You would just oh, it always is, yeah, and that's

1229
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: because high school and in college are a little more

1230
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: open minded to things. Absolutely, but you adjust your play

1231
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: calling to your personnel, and so it s so your

1232
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: quarterback is if your quarterbacks Tom Brady, you're you know,

1233
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do a lot of RPOs. No, I

1234
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: mean you're gonna You're gonna adjust your play calling to

1235
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: fit what your what your personnel says is the strength

1236
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: of your team, what your quarterback is. And that's just

1237
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: how the NFL works. It's gonna be nice debates. And

1238
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: the last one, I don't mean to slide him here,

1239
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: but Josh Rosen six zo four oh seaking of slight yeah,

1240
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 1: six four two twenty six, ninety seven eights, hands, thirty

1241
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: one three quarters on and we're gonna hear always five

1242
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: pounds heavier than Darnald. But again, you look at the

1243
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: body types. He's got a slight build. Uh, that's just

1244
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: that's how he's built, and that that factors into the conversation.

1245
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: I keep saying that he's Matt Ryan. You do keep

1246
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: saying body type, He's Matt Ryan. Body type. Okay. In

1247
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: the way they throw the ball, Yeah, yeah, I think

1248
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: you're you got something that hell of a flatter in comparison.

1249
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan was top three pick. Yeah, I know, he

1250
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: was MVP. Yeah. That means we gotta go for another

1251
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: day tomorrow. Yeah, Actually, gonna talk about some workouts tomorrow.

1252
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: You know, you're not excited to talk about the offensive

1253
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: line and what they're gonna run forty forty wives. But

1254
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: there'll be some guys have some decent times. We'll see hopefully,

1255
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Speaker 1: So get the ten yards split. Orlando Brown just don't

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Speaker 1: be the worst athlete, right, over under five point four,

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Speaker 1: going over now, going over there all right for my

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Speaker 1: scouting buddies, Dame Burgood for David Helmer for Kick Garrison

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Speaker 1: executive producer. I want to thank everybody out there for

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Speaker 1: checking us out. We'll be back tomorrow, probably around the

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Speaker 1: same time, but we'll be able to talk about a

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Speaker 1: few more workouts. Have some running back workouts too we

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Speaker 1: can visit with. That should be some fun. So on

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Speaker 1: Marklin for Joyce in Jeff Show. We'll see tomorrow. H