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Speaker 2: College football twenty five has dropped and I can't stop

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Speaker 2: playing it. Good morning, FITZI No, I haven't played it yet.

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Speaker 3: I've downloaded it, but I haven't played it yet. So

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm I have the ultimate case of

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Speaker 3: fat kid fomo right now. Like is you know, usually

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Speaker 3: the the inter fat kidding me is the first get

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Speaker 3: the video game and play it before everybody else does.

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Speaker 3: Now like, man, I haven't played it yet. All my

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Speaker 3: friends have played it. I'm getting like I got a

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Speaker 3: buddy that's trying to get me to throw cash on

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Speaker 3: the line to start playing against him. I'm like, can

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Speaker 3: I at least try the game once? What did you

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Speaker 3: think of it?

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. It's so good, It's it's awesome. Now, it's

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Speaker 2: it's a lot, right, Like you're gonna have to get

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Speaker 2: it's a lot to get used to. It's but it's

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Speaker 2: not it's not overly. Uh you know. Sometimes you'll see

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Speaker 2: It's not going to do that. But it's just so nuanced.

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Speaker 2: It's it's like you're just a freshman on campus. You're

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Speaker 2: coming out, you're in you're at you know, Michigan or

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Speaker 2: Ohio State or Penn State or LSU, and you're walking

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Speaker 2: you're a freshman and you're going, oh my god, where

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Speaker 2: do I start? There's so much out here? And that's

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Speaker 2: what it feels like.

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Speaker 3: See, that's why they need a old guy haven't played

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Speaker 3: in a minute mode? Like instead of just giving me

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Speaker 3: like the usual choices, give me a choice of Welcome

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Speaker 3: back to video gaming for a lot of people, because

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Speaker 3: like it has been a minute, and I look, I'm

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Speaker 3: happy if this game takes a second to adjust to

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Speaker 3: because I think, you know, frankly, video game makers in

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Speaker 3: general have gotten so lazy that Madden is basically the

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Speaker 3: same thing every year, just paying for a glorified roster update.

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Speaker 3: So give me something that feels different, that takes a

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Speaker 3: minute to figure out. There should be a lot of

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Speaker 3: nuance to it. But also, I'm gonna be real with you,

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Speaker 3: my friend, I kind of like to do things that

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Speaker 3: I'm really good at out of the gates. So like

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Speaker 3: the adjustment period there's gonna be kind of frustrating.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be frustrating. Yeah, I I it was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm playing now, I got a bunch of kids,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting It's it's frustrating because all I want to do.

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Speaker 2: I have a million things to do, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I haven't played enough, and you know, it's it's hard

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Speaker 2: want to be competitive. If it's like golf, right, like

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Speaker 2: It's why I hate golf, right, Like I want to

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Speaker 3: Well, especially because like in my world, I have been

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be super frustrating to play a

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Speaker 3: football video game that I am not good at. That's

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about that. I I

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Speaker 3: Like do I do? I go out that way and

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Speaker 3: then while I while I develop it. But also that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I highly suggest that. Now. I will tell you

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Speaker 2: it is. I mean, the realism, it's it's amazing. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Well, and so this becomes one of my inner conflicts,

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Speaker 3: right because I don't have a favorite college football team.

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Speaker 3: Everybody listening should know that, like I love covering it

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I almost feel conflicted.

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Speaker 3: I almost feel like I should just pick a terrible

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Speaker 3: if I take a better team.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah that you highly suggest that, all right,

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Speaker 2: highly suggest that. Good morning, FIGI did you see the

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Trust me, I've seen the trailers, I've seen the game play.

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Speaker 4: I have yet to play it, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: am aware of the excitement and the fervor surrounding the game,

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Speaker 4: and I've seen the game play. It does look amazing,

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Speaker 4: and it does harken back to the days of way

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Speaker 4: and played at nauseum. It certainly looks like it looks

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Speaker 4: like a lot of fun. But also to your point,

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Speaker 4: it is probably not going to be pretty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you're not. I mean I can tell you

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Speaker 4: But this is someone who hasn't really played video games

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Speaker 4: much in the last decade anyway, regardless of the genre.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean disadvantaged I have because of my

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Speaker 2: It's uh, but it's it's it's so cool, man. I

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Speaker 2: and all those things. It's just it's also like all

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Speaker 2: and I think that's why the game is the best.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I have to tell you it's it's

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Speaker 3: Also there's a little bit of absence makes the heart

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Speaker 3: grow fonder, And there's also an element of time. You know,

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Speaker 3: one thing that I was I was talking to someboddies

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Speaker 3: spent developing just this moment right as opposed to Madden

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Speaker 3: where your rinter to repeat. I am genuinely curious to

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Speaker 3: Are we just bored with the game that is the

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Speaker 3: But that's all they've been doing for this one for years.

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Speaker 3: So it's part of why I think it just resonates different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why they don't do I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would totally support that, but they would never

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Speaker 3: want to give up the money. You know, they want

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Speaker 3: I'm Madden, everything every single game at some level feels

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Speaker 3: now you're creating college football game where you really want

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Speaker 3: to give the sense of, oh, this is a lesser game,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's fascinating because I was talking to Kate Scott

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Speaker 2: a day these recording sessions. They're so in depth it's incredible,

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Speaker 2: Like how in depth these were courting sessions are for

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Speaker 2: this game. Reech Davis is awsome, like he does a

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Speaker 2: great job, and it feels like a game. It feels

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Speaker 2: it's pretty main you know, where the early bad days

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Speaker 3: Well, and I think you had to do that with

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Speaker 3: the amount of time that was off, Like you really

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Speaker 3: the whole franchise is never going to recover. So this

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Speaker 3: like when's the last time a sports video game came out?

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Speaker 3: And it was a topic on everybody's social media on

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Speaker 3: I'm glad they did. I wonder you know, you talk

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Speaker 3: about rees being great, which is not surprising to anybody.

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Speaker 3: The one thing I would say is like, well, next year,

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Speaker 3: are they just going to reuse a lot of that

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Speaker 2: I was watching it for a while, like it's like

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Speaker 2: I know, well, you know the video the pro video

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Speaker 3: But you watch other people play games, well, I mean

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Speaker 4: Oh, come on, fits, Now that's different. Come on watching

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I listen. I feel you like. It's

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Speaker 2: like I got real college, I'm going to watch this

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Speaker 3: we first launched sports Center on Snapchat at ESPN. People

433
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 3: were stunned to think that at the time, not now,

434
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Speaker 3: but at the time, over three million kids a day

435
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: were literally watching Sports Center in a way that they

436
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: could get it in under two minutes and on Snapchat.

437
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 8: You know.

438
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 3: So like I think the next generation growing, I'm not

439
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: sure that they'll care as much about the actual games

440
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 3: on the field as they do the games being played

441
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: on a console.

442
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, so you think it overtakes the game itself,

443
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: like that people will want to watch more of the

444
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: video game than the actual real football. Now I get

445
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: I have you know, again, my kids are the same way,

446
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: and you know, they they they were early YouTube to

447
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: all those gamers, you know, I mean, and I'll never

448
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: forget like when my Anthony started watching there was a

449
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: game like this is going to show my age. I'm

450
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: trying to remember the game that they that he was

451
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: and he would watch these these people play the game

452
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, what's like, dude, what are you watching? Man?

453
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: You're right and like and try to figure it out,

454
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: and you know, come to realize that whole generation that's

455
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: kind of what they're doing. So you see it almost

456
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: as in competition. Like I get the off season thing

457
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 2: because not everybody's a fan of you know, of every sport,

458
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: So I understand that, but like you actually think it'll

459
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: threaten the game itself?

460
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, think about how many people play, you know,

461
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 3: like racing games, NASCAR games, F one games, things like that.

462
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: Do they care about the race? I don't know. The

463
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: hardest part is you can make the argument, well, Alabama

464
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: has to be good for people wanted to want to

465
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: play as Alabama on a video game, and I can

466
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Speaker 3: I can see some of that. But I also think

467
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Speaker 3: that if you're a kid that goes to Alabama and

468
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: you can play a college football game and be Alabama.

469
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: You're gonna do that. So I honestly don't know. I

470
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: don't know how long term right now the game needs

471
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: the sport. I don't know in ten years if that's

472
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Speaker 3: going to be the case. Like where you can knowing

473
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: that as you've seen on the game, you can go

474
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: in all of these players are fake after a year

475
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: or two, right, so none of them are actually related

476
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: to real college football players anywhere. You're recruiting fake high

477
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: school players and kids are happy to do that. They're

478
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: happy to go out and make up their own rosters

479
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: and put themselves in the video game. So I'm not

480
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: sure it overtakes it, but I'm I don't think that

481
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: necessarily it has to have the game be the best

482
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: of the game to the actual game on the field

483
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 3: to be the best of the game for the video

484
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Speaker 3: game to thrive.

485
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Speaker 4: That's a great point, But they're also you know, if

486
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 4: you're creating players or you're you know, cycling players in

487
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 4: and out, whether you're drafting them a Maden or whether

488
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: you're recruiting them in n C two A, you know

489
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 4: there's still a connection to the program at least generally speaking,

490
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 4: if you if you use Alabama as an example, if

491
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 4: you're a fan of Alabama and these players continue to

492
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 4: cycle through, you still have a connection to that brand,

493
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 4: and that brand is you think would ultimately still draw

494
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 4: you back to the actual school itself in real life.

495
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: Like the difference is if it's League of Legends or Fortnite.

496
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 4: These are things that just aren't realistic that you can't

497
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 4: actually do. There's nothing real life to actually connect it to.

498
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 4: You know that that's where the interesting experiment will be here.

499
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 4: We're talking about the potential of the video games surpassing

500
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: the actual sport itself. You know, it's easier to quantify

501
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 4: for a game where there's you just can't do it

502
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 4: in real life versus basically the video game Madden, n

503
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: C two A, NBA two K are all mimicking something

504
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 4: that you can actually see, go see live, go meet

505
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 4: actual people, and set apart from actual, real fictional video

506
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 4: games where there's nothing, no way to actually simulate it

507
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 4: in real life. So that's where I have difficulty in

508
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: believing that at any point in time, the actual video

509
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 4: game from a sports standpoint, will surpass the actual sport itself.

510
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: I think my only counter to that would be I

511
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: just googled it to see and I can't find the

512
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: number of how many. But there are several colleges across

513
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: the country that now offer varsity esports programs and.

514
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 5: Squad there as scholarships out Yeah they are.

515
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: Like so like, now you're in a situation where.

516
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to interrupt you, I the only difference is, like,

517
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: what we're talking about is like participation, I completely get

518
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: and watching to a degree of people. You know, the

519
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: next level is I'm gonna watch buy a ticket to

520
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: watch people other people play.

521
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean if Michigan, if if Michigan has an esports

522
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 3: football team that is playing Michigan State in an esports

523
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: football team, kids will go right now, I believe that,

524
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: and I believe they would pay a few bucks to

525
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: get in the door. I believe that how far away

526
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: are we from that being as real to kids at

527
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: Michigan and Michigan State as the actual product on the field. Wow?

528
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like I believe that, Like I believe that

529
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: kids will go and watch it for fun. You know,

530
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: it's like Michigan Michigan State and I don't know, I.

531
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 5: Mean, I mean, you wouldn't do an anthony.

532
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 4: But it's if Michigan and Michigan State were playing the

533
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: actual football game on Saturday and the esports game was

534
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: also on Saturday, you wouldn't do what had to head.

535
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: I mean, there's gonna be more people going through the

536
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 4: actual football game than watching the esports game.

537
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure, right, And look, these esports arenas are

538
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: a fraction of the size of a football stadium. I

539
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: don't think. I'm not saying that you know, sports, actual

540
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 3: physical sports are in danger. I just think that, you know,

541
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: to that point, I could absolutely see a world where Michigan,

542
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: with this video game, Michigan and Michigan State field their

543
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: own team of gamers that are playing against each other,

544
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: and the night before the game that the stadium, that

545
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: the arena that they play in would be would be

546
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: packed with people that are watching it and cheering it

547
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: on and over time, like once that seed is planned,

548
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: all I'm saying is that once that seat's planning, it's

549
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: only going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. The

550
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: normalizing of what that means, you know, So that to

551
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: me is like this slope is started in a way

552
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: that I think that the acceptance for the next generation

553
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: is going to be far different than it is for

554
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: the generation right now.

555
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 4: Oh, even the streaming numbers are going to be big

556
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: for I mean, even if if you can only fit

557
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, let's say two thousand people in one

558
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: of those stadiums and you can stream unlimited. You mentioned

559
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: Twitch earlier, Yeah, I mean, you thin get millions of

560
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: people viewing these guys. I certainly recognized the popularity and

561
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: recognize that it's booming, especially for a lot of gen

562
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: z or So I'm not naive to the fact that

563
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: it is a giant, booming business. It's an industry that's

564
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: taking off and not going anywhere anytime soon.

565
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 5: I just find it hard to believe that.

566
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: At any point it'll ever surpass the actual sport on

567
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: the fear sporting video games, Legal Legends, and all the others.

568
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 5: They stand alone on their own.

569
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: But according to a quick Google search here, the one

570
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: thing as of June twenty four, twenty twenty four, League

571
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: of Legends is the most watched game of all time

572
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: on Twitch, with over sixty six point eight six billion

573
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: view right, I believe it, Yeah, fifty I mean sixty

574
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: six billion in twenty twenty three, the game broke the

575
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: billion hour mark with over one point three two billion

576
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: hours watched in twenty twenty three. So it's gone from

577
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: one point three to billion, or one point three two

578
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: billion hours from sixty six point eight billion. People Like,

579
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: that's just that's a number that's going to keep growing

580
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: and grow.

581
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's no staggering number.

582
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: And also well, and it's also something that crosses demographics countries.

583
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: You know.

584
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 4: This isn't like the NFL, which is sort of trying

585
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: to grow its footprint internationally and the NBA, which is

586
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: bigger internationally now. But like video games like that, which

587
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: can be produced in different languages and in different types

588
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: and all that is always going to have a wider

589
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 4: reach than a sports video game.

590
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: Very true, that is very like. I just looked at

591
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: the According to one side, I looked at the listing

592
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: of the most watched video games in the top ten.

593
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: None of them are sports games.

594
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, doesn't mean that they won't crack in there eventtionally.

595
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: I certainly think they could.

596
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: But I'd mean, we have already seen those non sports

597
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: video games. I mean, I mean they're just movies. That's

598
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: just transporting you into a different world. Correct, right, So

599
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: that's interesting. It's just you know, do you connect with

600
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: that world, and if you connect with that world, you

601
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: know you're you're gonna you're gonna do it. The sports,

602
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 2: I don't know. I could see not in the near future,

603
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: but I could see down the line where you know,

604
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: basically the video gamers control the robots or whatever you

605
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: want to call them, or you know that are people

606
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: are coming to a stadium to see you know, AI

607
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: generated you know, uh, robots or everyone to call them,

608
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: so injuries or whatever.

609
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: So every individual player is actually controlled by somebody sitting

610
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: in a chair behind a computer, and there's and the

611
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: player on the field is actually some sort of anatomic.

612
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: Yes, all right.

613
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: Interesting, I mean, especially in the way we crave violence

614
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: and the way we miss, you know, some of those

615
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: Madden like hits that blow everything up, like putting robots

616
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: on the field, that that eventually seems like there's some

617
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: logic to that too, because you'll, you know, you'll end

618
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: up living NFL blitz right in front of your eyes.

619
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 5: I love it, people, I mean.

620
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: I could see that. I don't like that, right, you know,

621
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: I could see that being coming a thing where you know, again,

622
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: each player is is safely in a pod, right, and

623
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's a physical nature to it as

624
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: they're in this contained space. But and they and and

625
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: you're you know, tackling and making your emotion just like

626
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: the Wei games right where you're you know, you're avatars

627
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: is mimicking your movement. I could totally see that as

628
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: and people watching it like, you know, hey, look it's

629
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna you know again, who knows what the world

630
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: The world's crazy now, right, we've seen the world turn

631
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: upside down. Who knows? And you know, two hundred years

632
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: where you know, there's a football is abolished and replaced

633
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: by this new technology.

634
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for a player in his pod to say,

635
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: oh my god, my thing got hacked. I didn't even

636
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: move walk backwards in there and get a safety.

637
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't me.

638
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: I swear, It's just like and then of course then

639
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: you find out that he's on the.

640
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 5: Take saying that was my next thought. It was just

641
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 5: like the gambling aspect of all of it.

642
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Until the robots get their own.

643
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, everybody, oh yeah, well that's coming

644
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 5: two fits.

645
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: Let's not you know, I gotta tell you, I gotta

646
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: tell your story because you brought up the gambling thing.

647
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 2: If so out of control right, Like it's just in

648
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: your face everywhere, bet on every second, right, which you're like,

649
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: first of all, who can do that? Right?

650
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Speaker 5: Like you know, I mean the live betting, like it's.

651
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: Got the means to bet on every at bat Like

652
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: it's like it's.

653
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: Crazy downs and down in distance in football it's third

654
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: and to one? Will the next play be a run,

655
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: a pass, a rep pass option? Like stuff like that

656
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: is actual live betting that you can do it.

657
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Speaker 3: I think I hear you say that, and it makes

658
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: me think, Like my one life rule is like if

659
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: if you would see it in the beginning of a

660
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: horror movie and scream, don't do it, then just don't

661
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: do it. I think I need a new like betting rule,

662
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: which is say it out loud, and if your friend

663
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: said it to you, you'd be like, man, you might

664
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: have a problem. Then you should really not do it.

665
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: Like if you're looking at one of these things, you're like, oh,

666
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: I can bet on the next play, what's it gonna be.

667
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 3: If you're sitting in a room and your buddy's doing

668
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: that repeatedly, you're gonna look over and be like, man,

669
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 3: you might want chill with that, Like we just don't

670
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: need to look in the mirror a little bit. Like

671
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: these these sites and these sites are making a ton

672
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: of money off of just all of us thinking, oh,

673
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna win this bet and this bet, and it's

674
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: like guess what, guys, most of us lose.

675
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 5: Well the next punt go left or right.

676
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's insane. It's it's it's insane. But I

677
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: watched the show last night. It was awesome. But I

678
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: gotta I gotta draw the parallel to it. It's as

679
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 2: a modern day all right, because you it was about

680
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: ancient Rome. Oh so I got to tell you about it. Well,

681
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 2: we'll do that. Also, the first coaches, speaking of betting,

682
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 2: I have odds on the first coaches to be fired,

683
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: all right. So we'll in the NFL, So we'll get

684
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: into that a little bit. Where the fella is hanging

685
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Speaker 2: out right here. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: listen live.

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Speaker 2: Fellas from the Tairaq dot com studios. Jason fitz Kevin figures.

691
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: I'm Anthony Garganell. So Peacock has a new show, and

692
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Speaker 2: I love the ancient you know Rome, and I love

693
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: those types of shows, those period pieces. So the show

694
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: is those about to die and it's ancient Rome and

695
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: Anthony Hopkins is the Emperor. And it's an interesting take

696
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: because one of the main characters is a book maker

697
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: like from back in the day for chariot racing and uh,

698
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 2: you know, the gladiators and the parallels were almoays frightening

699
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: like it was. It was. It was pretty wild because

700
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: like they showed this whole thing like you know what

701
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: it was, and and I read and they got me

702
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: reading this whole piece about how that's what society was.

703
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: And during the one of the lines in the show

704
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: was Rome has decayed, it's becoming. All it's become is

705
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: you know, Bread and Circuses, which is all about food,

706
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: gluttony and the games and betting on the games. And

707
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: there's a sea where they're lacking food. They need grain

708
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: and the grain hasn't arrived yet and so they're storming

709
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: the Emperor's doors and they put all these games and

710
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 2: people start to go with nuts and you know they're

711
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: just batting on these games and drinking wine, and the

712
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: parallels of modern day are so stark.

713
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Speaker 3: I love the idea. Like I was at a Hartford

714
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: yard Goats minor league baseball game years ago and with

715
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: a bunch of buddies, and they got to that spot

716
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: in between innings where the little kids lined up and

717
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 3: they were all just like sheep, and they were gonna

718
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: they were gonna run their little kids sheep outfits around

719
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 3: the bases to see like who won. And it took

720
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: roughly thirty seconds before there was cash just everywhere. We

721
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: were all throwing cash at it, and I decided that

722
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: was like our most betting degenerate day in history. Now

723
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: I've decided if we all did it in Togas and

724
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: spoke like we were really smart, we'd be paying homage

725
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: to Rome. And now I feel like that could have

726
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: been a really cultural thing. This has been part of

727
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: our wiring for so long. Though the it's a little

728
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: like college football. It's just that now it's out in

729
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: the open, like all the everybody says, well, all the

730
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: dirty secrets are now out there to be seen. I

731
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: think that's what's happening with gambling man like you just

732
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: think about how many people for so many years would

733
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: walk into a Super Bowl party and it was, oh,

734
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: we're just playing squares, and then before you know it's like, well,

735
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: put a little on the game. And then now that

736
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: it just becomes legalized in so many places, it's too

737
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: easy to open up the app and look at it

738
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: and say, well, that's kind of fun. Oh I can

739
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: bet that Comba that looks kind of neat, and then

740
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: before you know it, at the end of the football season,

741
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: you're like, how am I down five grand? Like it's

742
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: just it's amazing how so often it's you know, we

743
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: have Brad come on every week, and there's really smart

744
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: best bets out there. I'm not sure right now, most

745
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: people gambling are really looking on games, are real looking

746
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: for smart best bets. They're just looking to have a

747
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: good time in the middle of a game, and they're

748
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: throwing a little cash at it and if it hits,

749
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: glory be to God. And if it doesn't, well that

750
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: was fun. That's a much different mindset, you.

751
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, except when it's just on your face and

752
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: all in your face and you know you have a

753
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: you know, it becomes more than just a little fun.

754
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: That's the scary piece of it. And but you know

755
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: it was nuts about the show is that they were

756
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: doing like basically parlays, like they had this to blue

757
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: the blue team was a chariot and that they the

758
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: guy puts a bet in the blue team to win,

759
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: but he has to take the lead in the second turn.

760
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: And I'm blatching this and I'm going, this is freak

761
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: American sports. It's nuts, man, It's like and listen, I

762
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: agree with it. I think ninety five percent of it

763
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: is you know, it's just meant to have real throw

764
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: make a pizza bet and have some fun with it

765
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: while you're watching the game at all. But it is

766
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: always in your face, is the problem? Right? And like

767
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: and the owners have double, triple, quadruple down on it,

768
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: so that makes it even more like there you know,

769
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: the kiosks everywhere and virtual this and bet all that.

770
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: As you know, if there's screens everywhere to bet on, like,

771
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: it's it's it's pretty crazy.

772
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you mentioned pizza bit and a lot of

773
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: times it's just like eating pizza. If you have a

774
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: slice every once in a while, no big deal. If

775
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: you're eating a whole pie every single day, eventually you

776
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: got problems, and that that's what's happening right now. Nobody

777
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 3: knows how to stop eating the pizza.

778
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and it's not it's not their fault because

779
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: of the dopamine that gets you know that your body

780
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: hits and you become addicted to it. All right, anyway,

781
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Speaker 2: lots lots of de fellas hanging Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, buddy.

784
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791
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: about to commence. We're about to have football rookies. Were

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00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: eight teams last week began their rookie camps, including the

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00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: world champion Chiefs. It was funny. I was talking to

794
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: our man, Steve Spagnolo, and I gave him a happy

795
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 2: camp day, buddy, and he's like, yeah, it goes by fast.

796
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Andy's one of those guys that Andy Reid is one

797
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 2: of those guys that starts at the same time every

798
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: year no matter what Ay is a believer in and

799
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: it look it served them well. But man, those off

800
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: seasons go by fast if you're a member of the Chiefs.

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00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. But also I think everybody needs to remember one

802
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 3: thing that gets lost in these camps because we always

803
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: hear about how much contacts they're gonna be and guys

804
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: sitting out and blah blah blah blah blah. Everybody you

805
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: talk to will tell you nobody runs a tougher training

806
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: camp than Andy Reid. Like he demands so much from

807
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. They do more physical work than a lot

808
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: of teams, Like they beat each other up. It's a grind.

809
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: They do all of that. So it's funny because we

810
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: see the jovial, fat guy running through the wall like

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00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: he's the Kool aid man, and we think of Andy

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00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: Reid in that sense. But the tone is set from

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00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: training camp, like everything that makes the Chiefs who they

814
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: are is set from things like the fact that he

815
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: is a creature of routine and also the fact that

816
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: he likes to use this camp time to make sure

817
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: he gets out there and just kicks the snot out

818
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: all the guys and gives them a real sense of

819
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: what that team's going to be like. I just I

820
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: think we spend so much time looking at the loveability

821
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes that we forget that

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00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: what makes the Chiefs great isn't just the talent or

823
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: the mind, it's the work that they constantly tirelessly put in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more and listen, and these camps

825
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: have been really changed dramatically over the years because of

826
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: they'll do rules right. You know you can't you you know,

827
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: every couple of days you need to be off. And

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00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: I mean the Players Association has changed camp and what

829
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 2: training camp look like in a dramatic way. I covered

830
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: his camp. I would go he used to camp when

831
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: he was in with the Eagles. He had camp at

832
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: Lehigh University, and I would go for the duration and

833
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: I mean this thing was nasty, like you were to

834
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: a daze and you're in the valley, right and it

835
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: was hot and humid, and they would do to a

836
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: day's you know, for whatever it was you know, eight

837
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: straight days. Then he might give you off. You might

838
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 2: he might give you an afternoon off of special teams.

839
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: But I mean this thing was was nasty and you

840
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: got a lot of work done. Like they they did it.

841
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: It was you know, usually like six weeks and then

842
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: it shrunk. But when he first got to Philadelphia and

843
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: he started his head coaching career, he was every bit

844
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: of you know, six weeks and it was I mean,

845
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: it was a bonding experience, right, because you're in a

846
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: dorm and you are just working every day. You're every

847
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: day and they the players could not wait for that

848
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: thing to be done and drive home. But it was.

849
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: It was something he also believes, and I don't want

850
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: to get your opinion guys on this. He believes in

851
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: going away from the facility. So the facility has everything

852
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: you need obviously, right, you know, all your training stuff,

853
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: you're anything, right, is they have these hundred million dollars

854
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: practice facilities, right, and they have everything self contained. But

855
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: and he still believes in going away. And there's about

856
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: I think I saw there's nine eight or nine teams

857
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: that still go away, and he is a big believer

858
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: in that.

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00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: I am a passionate believer in going away, and I

860
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: think for me, I'll use a music as always analogy.

861
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: But there are two main award shows in country music.

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00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: One is the Country Music Awards, the CNAs. One is

863
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: the ACMs, the Academy of Country Music Awards. Now this

864
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: are in Nashville every year in November, and they're regal, right,

865
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: they carry a ton of weight in the industry, and

866
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: everybody really respects what it means to be a CMA winner.

867
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: So you think of the CMAS as being sort of

868
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: the big daddy of the award shows. But the funny

869
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: thing is the far better experience, if you ask anybody

870
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: that's playing these shows and involved in them, the far

871
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: better experience is the ACMs. Why because the ACM's in

872
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: the spring in Vegas. And so what happens when you

873
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: go to CMA rehearsals is at the end of the day,

874
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 3: like you're around all of your friends that you haven't

875
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: seen all year. You're working on this award show to

876
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: make sure it's great. You're there for a couple of weeks,

877
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: but as soon as you're done with what you need

878
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: to do, you go home, and inevitably that means when

879
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: you're home you've got your honeydew list, and you've got

880
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: all these things that you need to accomplish. It just

881
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: doesn't have the same vibe and bond. The beautiful thing

882
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: about the ACMs in Vegas is that everybody is out

883
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: of town at once, which means you really do have

884
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 3: this opportunity to truly connect. I always felt like, frankly,

885
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: even when the band was touring, you know, two hundred

886
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: and something days a year, what was incredible is that

887
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: we would go to the ACMs. We'd be locked into

888
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 3: Vegas for two weeks while we got ready for that performance.

889
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: It was a real true bonding time because we were

890
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: all in one place together without distraction.

891
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 11: You know.

892
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 3: It just creates a different level of camaraderie and understanding

893
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: of each other because you can't just rely on the

894
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: comforts a home. You have to actually commit to getting

895
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: to know each other. I can only apply that logic

896
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: to training camp and say, that's part of why it

897
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: makes sense to me to get out and be out

898
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: and be with everybody away from everything.

899
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 5: It's also a big roster of guys.

900
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: Now you're going to camp, ninety guys, you get cut

901
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: down to sixty, you know, for the regular season, you know,

902
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: being able to be out of your comfort zone, not

903
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 4: be able to go home to your family, having to

904
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: bunk with the guys. Ok, guys are in hotels and

905
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: I probably stand in the old RinkyDink dorms like they

906
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 4: used to back in the day. But I do think

907
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: there's something to team chemistry and team bonding. When you're

908
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: the only people you see are your teammates or other

909
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: team staffers, you get to cultivate relationships with guys, so

910
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 4: you otherwise wouldn't be able to Like, look, you mentioned

911
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 4: how big these rosters are. There are certain guys. He's like, oh,

912
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: this is your teammate. You guys must all be friends.

913
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: It was like, nah, I barely talked to him. Like

914
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 4: that happens a lot, but there's a less chance of

915
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: that happening. If the only people you are surrounded by

916
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 4: are the same fifty sixty seventy people over a two

917
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 4: and a half three week period, there's a chance for

918
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: you to build some familiarity and bond a little bit

919
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: more closely with guys. So I don't know if it's

920
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: the biggest thing in the world, but I do believe

921
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: that there's something to it.

922
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 3: Didn't we see that, by the way, a little bit

923
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: like if you were paying close attention during receiver. There

924
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: was one moment where DeVante Adams walked up to a

925
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 3: teammate and was just talking to him about I think

926
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: it was about life and kids. They were talking about kids,

927
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: and at the end I don't even remember who he

928
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 3: was talking to. Whoever he talked to looked at and

929
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: was like, man, thanks for chatting, and Vante's like of course,

930
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 3: but the fact that that happened made me realize that

931
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: that's probably not somebody that DeVante goes in and talks

932
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: too often, which is so real in these so like

933
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: we think of everybody in the locker room just you know,

934
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: going to top golf together and hanging out every day,

935
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: and that's just not the way it works.

936
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 4: Now, especially in football. A lot of times it's your

937
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: position group first. Then it's the express strapolates out to

938
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 4: other guys on your side of the ball.

939
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 5: Maybe you have a guy on the other.

940
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 4: Side of the ball you might be cool with because

941
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: you knew each other in college, but beyond that, it's

942
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: really not as a buddy buddy and chummy as people

943
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 4: expect that it might be.

944
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 2: No because you're spending your day with your own position

945
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: group or your own unit, so you're not with the

946
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 2: other guys. You really are kind of removed. It's so

947
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: interesting when you actually see it right when you're covering

948
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: it and you're with it, that you.

949
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 10: Know how.

950
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: Detached head coaches are, right, you know a lot, especially

951
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: if you know, let's go back to Andy for saking,

952
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: since we're talking about Andy Reid. You know, when it

953
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 2: comes to the defense, he literally says to Spags, you

954
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: your coach the defense. You're the CEO of the defense.

955
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: That's you, that's you do. And like he won't think

956
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: he might have a meeting here and there, but he

957
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: doesn't go over any kind of game plan or anything

958
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: like that. And you know, you know, back says his

959
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: position coaches and the overall sees and is with his guys.

960
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: But you know, and he's not mixing with the defense much.

961
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 4: That's interesting and then that tells you that they're that

962
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: greatness comes in multiple different ways, because if you go

963
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: back and talk about Bill Walsh, he had his hands

964
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 4: in everything right, defense, offense, special teams. He sat on

965
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 4: every meeting that he possibly could. If he missed the meeting,

966
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 4: he had people will report back to him like he

967
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 4: knew exactly what every game plan in every single game

968
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: for every single position group. I think to a certain degree,

969
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, especially in the in the heyday of New England,

970
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 4: was seen as as that sort of coach as well,

971
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: Whereas you know someone like Andy Ree, like you explained

972
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: as more of a delegator. You know, I hired you

973
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 4: to run the defense, you run it. I trust you

974
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 4: and you do your thing. And I don't know if

975
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 4: there's a right or wrong because just a matter of

976
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: matter of preference, but both can definitely work.

977
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: Can you do that today? Delegate?

978
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 5: Or are be in charge of everything?

979
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: Being charge of That's hard to write, That's what I mean.

980
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: Like could Bill Walsh? Like? The game is so different man, right?

981
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: You know there was we talked about connective tissue the game.

982
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: If you think about it, in the eighties and even

983
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 2: into the nineties, the game was connected a little easier, right,

984
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: like you, It was more run like your your game

985
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: plan matched your tone of who you are as a team.

986
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: It was. It wasn't as sophisticated today. It's just so sophisticated.

987
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 2: I don't think you can do it well.

988
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 3: And people have changed so much like today. If you

989
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 3: go back to twenty five thirty years ago, it was

990
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 3: so different trying to relate to everybody, but then also

991
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: trying to make sure everybody was on the same page,

992
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: trying to make sure everybody's focused. Society just didn't have

993
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: as many wild distractions in your hand with your phone

994
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven. It's just the world is such

995
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 3: a different place. I don't know necessarily right now, no

996
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: matter what you're doing for a living, that you can

997
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 3: achieve the best version of greatness that you want to.

998
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: If you are incapable of delegating portions of what you

999
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: need done to other people, there's just no longer the time,

1000
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: there's no longer. You've got to be able to identify

1001
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: people that can help you, and you've got to trust

1002
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: those people to do their jobs well. And I truly

1003
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: believe that, like we are more, it takes a village

1004
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 3: right now than ever if you truly want to get

1005
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 3: to the top. And I don't care if we're talking

1006
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: about music or if we're talking about you know, somebody

1007
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 3: that's a financial advisor that's driving around right now listening,

1008
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: Like I just believe you have to know when to

1009
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: let go and who to let go towards if you

1010
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: really want to achieve your optimum in anything anymore.

1011
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're spot off. I think you're spot on.

1012
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 2: And I don't even think about this, but it's true.

1013
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: Like the phone, the level of distractions that you talked about,

1014
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: it's it's different from like if you go thirty years ago.

1015
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: I remember I hear in Baldy stories, So Brian Baldinger,

1016
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: who is one of the best, and Baldy has spins

1017
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: great yarn and he's and like he'll he'll paint a

1018
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: picture of a locker room that is close right, that

1019
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: does cross the threshold of offensive defense. And you know,

1020
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: like those guys would be on a basketball team in

1021
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: the off season and you know they're they're having team parties.

1022
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: It's it's more like work now than it then. I

1023
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: think back then it was more fraternal and you know,

1024
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: like those guys like after a game, they'd all sit

1025
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: around and just you know, pound beers did that now.

1026
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: I So I spent yesterday at an amphitheater in Connecticut

1027
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: with my buddies that Jordan Davis and Mitchell Timpenny, a

1028
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: couple of country artists. I sat in with Jordan last night,

1029
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: played a couple of songs, and I sat there. I

1030
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: sat there last night thinking about exactly what you just

1031
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: talked about, because in the middle of the day there

1032
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: was this moment where we'd finished soundcheck and we were

1033
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 3: catching up and one of the guys was like, I

1034
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 3: got to start my routine.

1035
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: And it was.

1036
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 3: Really like his routine was going to the gym and

1037
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: making sure he got a run in and then like

1038
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: there's some meetings and then listening to some stuff and

1039
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: all these things that they do. And you look around

1040
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: after the show and everybody has this perception that you

1041
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: just played in front of, you know, ten thousand people

1042
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: in this small amphitheater, and you're like, oh man, those

1043
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: guys are raging. And we finished and they literally had

1044
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: like everybody went to the cooler and got like muscle

1045
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 3: milks and a couple of guys, like one guy got

1046
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 3: a non alcoholic beer, and it was like that that

1047
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 3: was the post show party. And you think about what

1048
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: touring in music was in the eighties and nineties, and

1049
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: the gluttony and the oh my god of it, and

1050
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: you think about what it is for almost everybody I

1051
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: know now the tours at any sustainable level. It's taking

1052
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 3: care of yourself and making sure you're ready to do

1053
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: your job. And hey, this is how I feed my family.

1054
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: And uh also I'm going to go FaceTime my wife

1055
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: and kids in the middle of the day and make

1056
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 3: sure that I talk to them. Like these are all

1057
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: real things, like I just don't and it's a beautiful thing.

1058
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: It makes it more sustainable, it makes it more real,

1059
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 3: like and people are doing a better job than ever.

1060
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 3: Like I think it's a beautiful, important thing, but it

1061
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 3: is not. Football is the same exact way, like these

1062
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 3: guys are committing to their bodies and to their lives.

1063
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: It's such a different level. We are not in a

1064
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: world any in a world anymore where you're hopping on

1065
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: a jet and you're going to London and you're partying

1066
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 3: because you know, now you can just do things nobody

1067
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: will ever find out, like phones are everywhere. It's just

1068
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 3: changed the mindset of so much of the what football, sports, entertainment,

1069
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 3: what it all was twenty years ago. It's wildly different

1070
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: today because people, I think take it more seriously.

1071
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 4: I also think that athletes are just more self centered,

1072
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: for lack of a better term, Now people talk about

1073
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 4: a bunch of individual brands as opposed to the collective unit.

1074
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: You didn't have free agency back then, especially early in

1075
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 4: the days when Baldy was starting his career, so you

1076
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 4: had collective units that were together for long periods of

1077
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 4: time and people weren't worried about their next contract or

1078
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 4: their agent or their social media profile. Is it's the

1079
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: world is different now than it was back then from

1080
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 4: that standpoint where you know, it's less about the collective

1081
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 4: and more about the individual. And I'm gonna get mine

1082
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 4: and if the team can thrive while I'm getting mine, cool,

1083
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 4: But I got to put number one first. I think

1084
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 4: you get that. That's the general mentality of a lot

1085
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: of athletes today.

1086
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: Totally totally right, And there is it's way more sophisticated,

1087
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: right like today's way more sophisticated in every way.

1088
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 5: Now, the film, the scouting, the duous.

1089
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Speaker 3: Some more like I'll push back a little on the

1090
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: self centered portion of it. I'll only say that I

1091
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: think athletes today are better informed about everything than they were, Like,

1092
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: you have a better understanding of this is how that

1093
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 3: because like stuff wasn't communicated the way it is now,

1094
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: Like twenty years ago, you didn't necessarily understand well, this

1095
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 3: is a business to the same level that you do

1096
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: now because you see it every day from every person.

1097
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 3: And like twenty five thirty years ago, if you played

1098
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: in the league, you didn't have an easy way to

1099
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 3: keep int Like if you played for the Raiders, you

1100
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 3: probably weren't talking to somebody that played for the Eagles

1101
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: every day because like there wasn't the connective tissue. Texting

1102
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 3: didn't even exist, you know, thirty years Like in You

1103
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: Go Be Pre two thousand we talk about Bill Walsh's era,

1104
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: Like if Joe Montana wanted to sit there and have

1105
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: a friendship with somebody halfway across the country or even

1106
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: a kinship to know what was going on, you couldn't

1107
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 3: do that. I think information and how quickly it travels,

1108
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: allows for bonds all over the country, allows for better information,

1109
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: allows for a better informed athlete, allows for somebody that

1110
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: understands this situation better. It may seem self centered, but

1111
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: I also think that there's just an element of like, man,

1112
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 3: we have more knowledge at a faster pace than ever before,

1113
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 3: So of course people are using that knowledge to make

1114
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: sure they get the most out of whatever they can

1115
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: in their own personal life.

1116
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 5: That's true.

1117
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to say I said self centered

1118
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 4: in a non pejorative way.

1119
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 5: That that's probably you know.

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00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 3: The majority of it is a fancy word. Let's go.

1121
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 4: I didn't mean it from a negative standpoint because your

1122
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 4: to also fits. But back in the day, you didn't

1123
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 4: have you didn't have free agency, The contracts weren't as

1124
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 4: big as they were. The TV money wasn't as big

1125
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: as it was. The piece of the pie for every

1126
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 4: individual to get wasn't that big. Now that it is,

1127
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: I can understand from a certain player standpoint where look.

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Speaker 5: I have a chance to get paid. I want to

1129
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 5: be able to win. But this is what I'm chasing.

1130
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Speaker 4: You know, all of this stuff, how my image, how

1131
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 4: my brand is affect what affects how much I make

1132
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 4: and affects all of these are things that you have

1133
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 4: to think about. So from that standpoint, these are things

1134
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 4: that just weren't even on the horizon, wasn't even on

1135
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 4: the radar, didn't exist thirty years ago. And now these

1136
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 4: are things that you have to think about on a

1137
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: day and day out basis.

1138
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're completely more in the visual I mean

1139
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: from social media, right right, Like social media makes us

1140
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: that way, like it's all about me, and people will

1141
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: talk into their phones and they're used to me, me, me,

1142
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: me me, and that's that. And again, I just think

1143
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: that's just society in general.

1144
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you compare yourself to other people, even if it's

1145
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 4: if you're not you could be the most selfless person ever.

1146
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 4: But if you scroll and see this person's thriving, that

1147
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: person's thriving then and by the way, most of them

1148
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 4: are not. But that's a different story for a different

1149
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: you know, situation. It's like, well, where's mine? How come

1150
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: I'm not there? How come they are?

1151
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: You know? So it's it works.

1152
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: It really has that effect on your mental a lot

1153
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: of times when you're when you're scrolling through and you

1154
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: see situations like that as well.

1155
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 5: So it effects it affects everybody.

1156
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was way simpler back then, right, And it

1157
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 2: was way smaller, right, There wasn't billions of dollars in time.

1158
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: Sports was big for people like us, kids like us,

1159
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: but it wasn't the way like we're our whole our

1160
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: whole GENI generation is obsessed, right, like our I mean,

1161
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: the whole world's obsessed. Like I think it started with

1162
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: like kind of fifty like kind of where we were

1163
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: we were kids, and figure right there behind us, not

1164
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: far behind us, but it was sports was so big

1165
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: and it followed to to today. Like think about it

1166
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: when I was when I was growing up, most girls

1167
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: did not like football, like I remember, like, you know, yeah,

1168
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: you're cheerleaders, but they weren't like into the game. Now

1169
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: women love the game like they're into the game.

1170
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Speaker 4: Oh they can run circles around some guys when it

1171
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 4: comes to talking about football, all right.

1172
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Speaker 2: Like they're just into the game. Like society has become

1173
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: way more you know, sports heavy across the board, like

1174
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I'm sure you guys had kids

1175
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: in your class that they weren't sports kids, like they

1176
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: you know, that's who they weren't. They didn't like sports.

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01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: Now there's way few like there's more, there's fewer of

1178
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Speaker 2: kids that don't like sports. Would you agree?

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, no, I agree with that. I think it's

1180
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: it's transcendent for sure. It's it's it hits more people.

1181
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 3: HiT's different.

1182
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: And again I think it's just because there's so many

1184
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 3: other ways to get in contact and get like you

1185
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 3: don't have to work as hard to be a sports

1186
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 3: fan as you did twenty years ago, thirty years ago.

1187
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think of society, it's become a thing. Yeah,

1188
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: it's because like he was interesting that. I I had

1189
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: a friend of mine who was in con for the

1190
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Speaker 2: film festival, and he was telling me that all the

1191
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: streamers want a sports It's all they want. They want

1192
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: any kind of sports they can get their hands on.

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Speaker 3: Hm.

1194
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Speaker 2: They all these streamers, they're all they they all want

1195
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: sports because the numbers that sports does is it's unbelievable.

1196
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 4: It's the only thing on television that still thrives. That's

1197
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 4: why the NBA can signed a seventy six billion dollar

1198
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: contract is part of that. But you know, but I

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01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 4: mean a big because live live sports is the only

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01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 4: thing that still thrives. Ratings are tanking left and right nationwide,

1201
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 4: but because people love We talked about reality shows. I

1202
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 4: think you mentioned Real Housewives or whatever earlier in the

1203
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 4: show There fits now.

1204
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 5: That is quote unquote reality.

1205
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 4: But the only true reality show that you have is

1206
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 4: professional and even college sports, I guess to a certain

1207
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: degree because you really literally don't know what's going to happen,

1208
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 4: and that's the only thing that continues to thrive in

1209
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 4: what is really a dying market, which is media, you know,

1210
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 4: traditional media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you show the WNBAH package.

1212
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, two point two billion dollars, which, by the way,

1213
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 4: I love how the player association you said that's not enough.

1214
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 5: I don't like you guys have been losing money for

1215
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 5: thirty years.

1216
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Speaker 2: You have the album, man, like you know, jeez, how

1217
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Speaker 2: about it? Thank you?

1218
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Speaker 5: Brce.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know this is great. You know we've we

1220
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: finally made it right, Like it took us this law,

1221
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: but we finally reached this like it should. You should

1222
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: be celebrated. It should be more celebratory. Right.

1223
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 4: And by the way, there's there's an opt out in

1224
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 4: the clause after year or two that they can renegotiate

1225
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 4: if they if they feel that the value of the

1226
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 4: w NBA has gone up. So Sali here locked into

1227
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 4: this eleven year deal. That's some undermarket value.

1228
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: I know, no, I no, I feel you, all right?

1229
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Speaker 2: The coaches who are on the hot seat, who are

1230
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: the coaches that will get fired? Will I have the odds? Well,

1231
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: kind of a good excuse to talk about the coaches

1232
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: who will be scrutinized the most this coming season, where

1233
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: the fell is hanging right here Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: So you just heard our own Jason Fitz with Jordan Davis.

1249
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Speaker 2: That's incredible, just absolutely amazing, man, great stuff, buddy.

1250
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Speaker 3: Oh, thanks to Jordan and the band guys for letting

1251
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 3: go back. Like I don't think people know sometimes how

1252
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: disruptive it is when it's like, hey, I'm gonna come

1253
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: in and say, you know, play on a couple songs

1254
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 3: and next thing you know was the ACM Song of

1255
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: the Year this year, and his guitar player thankfully and

1256
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 3: kindly gave up the solo so I could have it,

1257
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 3: and I went out and did Tucson too late. Next thing,

1258
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 3: you know with what Jordan had a blast. It was

1259
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 3: great and good to hang out with the guys. Fun

1260
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 3: to like I've sat in here and there with buddies,

1261
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: but it's usually like little casino shows or whatever. It

1262
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: was nice to be in a shed and you know,

1263
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: stand up in an amphitheater and that crowd was Rocket

1264
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 3: and Bridgeport, Connecticut last night, so it was it was

1265
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: a It was a blast of a time. It's worth

1266
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: being a little groggy this morning on the fellas, you know,

1267
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: when you when you get to get out and uh

1268
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 3: and flex the muscle a little bits. Like I'd say

1269
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: it's like riding a bike, but I have no idea

1270
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 3: how to ride a bike, but that's what they say,

1271
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 3: it's like riding a bike.

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Speaker 4: Great song by the way, and music video. Next thing

1273
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 4: you know, by the way, it's one of my wife's favorites.

1274
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome.

1275
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you uh, how much work does it

1276
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: is for you to go in and play a song

1277
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: like that, like you know, to get to kind of

1278
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 2: carve out your niche that you could play along with,

1279
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: Like how much how much rehearse? I haven't.

1280
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 3: I haven't picked up a violin and months, And they

1281
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 3: sent me a text a couple of days before and said,

1282
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: here's the two songs. I know them because I've listened

1283
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: to them before. So yesterday morning, at about seven o'clock,

1284
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: I pulled up the recording of it and I played

1285
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 3: it a couple of times. I was like, all right,

1286
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 3: think I got it. And then I went to sound

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Speaker 3: check and we ran it for We ran each song

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01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 3: twice and we're like, all right, I think we got it.

1289
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,959
Speaker 3: Then we played the show like I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Why it's so interesting for someone that like I have

1291
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: no concept of it, Like it's I don't know the

1292
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: warrior world. It's so interesting that you actually all right,

1293
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: like and you do it so matter of factly. Yeah.

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01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: So at seven o'clock I I played a couple of

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,479
Speaker 2: times and it was like, all right, I got it. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That the ability to listen to a song like.

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Speaker 4: That, I can very very very very in an elementary level,

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01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 4: read a little bit of sheet music and it will

1299
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: take me forever. Get a couple of notes out, and

1300
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 4: it's been and it's been decades since I've even take

1301
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 4: me forever. But to actually hear something and say, yeah,

1302
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 4: I can play that and just know exactly what note

1303
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 4: it is, that's that's that's pretty special.

1304
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Speaker 3: Honest to god, sheet music doesn't exist in Nashville. Ninety

1305
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: nine percent of the time you get you get a

1306
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 3: Like when I got the Van Perry audition, I got

1307
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: a CD the night before with seventeen songs on it,

1308
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 3: and it was like, all right, here's the songs, like

1309
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna play a show tomorrow and let's

1310
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 3: see how it goes. Wow, And that was that's You

1311
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 3: have seventeen songs. Not a sheet of paper was involved.

1312
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 3: You just listen to it. There's ways that people chart

1313
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 3: stuff out. But like if you asked me to play

1314
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: the piano or you know, the guitar or mandolin, doughbro

1315
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 3: other instruments that I play, I would want time to

1316
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 3: get ready. But like I've been playing the violin since

1317
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: I was four, A practiced eight hours a day by

1318
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: the time I was eight. Like, the violin is truly

1319
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 3: an extension of my life. So I honestly think that

1320
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: I could. I could as long as I've picked it

1321
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 3: up in the last six months. If you handed me

1322
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: a fiddle today and said go sit in with any artist,

1323
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 3: I would be comfortable to it. It's just for me.

1324
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 3: It's kind of that that one instrument is like walking.

1325
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: Everything else much more difficult. But the violin like, yeah,

1326
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 3: I mean you you learned. And the Nashville system like

1327
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: they have what are called numbers that they do for charts,

1328
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 3: but most of the people are I mean I toured.

1329
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 3: There were people in the vand Perry that have no

1330
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 3: idea how to read music, have never even tried to

1331
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 3: read music. It's just everything's done by ear in that city.

1332
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: You know, you just you got to be able to

1333
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 3: hear it, and that's part of the job. If you

1334
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 3: can't hear it and play it back or hear it

1335
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 3: and sing it back, like then you'll you'll never make

1336
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 3: it in Nashville.

1337
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: So it almost feels like it's a it's just this

1338
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: language like that you hear right like you're it's it's

1339
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: a complete language that you are fluent in.

1340
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: Well, think about the game Simon or you hear something

1341
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 3: like that's the goal. Like, so when I first started

1342
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 3: playing fiddle, because I you know, I do obviously coming

1343
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: from Julliard, like I read music, and when I play

1344
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 3: in orchestras and things like that, I read music that

1345
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: would take me a second to get my chops back

1346
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 3: on reading quickly. But when I was when I first

1347
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: started playing fiddle, what I did is I took old

1348
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 3: rock records and I listened to guitar solos and I

1349
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: would like to it and then figure out how to

1350
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 3: play a back note for notes. So like I knew

1351
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 3: how to play Hotel California on a violin, or Sweets

1352
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 3: Ala Mine on a Violand before I ever knew how

1353
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: to play Devil went down to Georgia. Like everybody thinks

1354
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 3: Devil went down to Georgie. I didn't grow up listening

1355
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 3: to old school country, so like I still don't know.

1356
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 3: Like like a lot of times you'll sit in with

1357
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 3: the band and they'll be like, oh, George Strake the fireman,

1358
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: and like, well, dude, won't dude, and they all look

1359
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 3: at the fiddle player and I'm like, I have no

1360
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 3: idea what song that is, but if we start, I'll

1361
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 3: figure it out like, so, you know, I didn't grow

1362
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 3: up with the country roots, but I certainly grew up

1363
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 3: they call comping. But like if you, if you sat

1364
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 3: down across from me and you sang something, I should

1365
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: be able to play it back for you immediately.

1366
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 4: Well, lest we bury the lead here is that you

1367
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 4: brought off the Devil went down to Georgia. I have

1368
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 4: to ask the burning question, who won the Devil or Johnny?

1369
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 3: The reason and I told Charlie this RP legend. The

1370
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 3: reason I never liked that song is because the Devil's

1371
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 3: solo was clearly better.

1372
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Devil he relented, right, that's my The.

1373
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 3: Devil are ever going to be? Like, I mean, the

1374
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 3: Devil solo is not. I it's a hack like any

1375
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 3: third grade kid that's never played a violin if you

1376
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 3: show him the one trick on that and Charlie would

1377
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 3: have told you the same thing. Charlie was a great, great,

1378
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 3: great guitar player, but he was a great showman on

1379
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 3: the violin. He wasn't like necessarily a great violinist. He

1380
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: knew that. And so the Devil solo is like just

1381
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 3: it's sort of a cheap move that you do. There's

1382
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 3: really nothing to it, but it just sounds badass. And

1383
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 3: you know, Johnny Solo was like, Johnny Solo is fine,

1384
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 3: but like the Devil Solo is far cooler.

1385
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 4: That's what I thought. But that's my elementary ears listening.

1386
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm listening to. It's just like, oh,

1387
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: that sounds great, but I don't know. But I have

1388
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 4: an expert violinist here. I mean, I gotta, you know,

1389
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 4: tap into the expert here, Anthony. You know, oh, without

1390
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 4: a doubt, that's utterly fascinating.

1391
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: It really is.

1392
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 3: See. But the important thing, poise is because everybody last night,

1393
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 3: all the guys on the tour and everything, they invited me.

1394
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 3: They're playing MetLife Stadium tonight with Luke Comb's and everyone's like,

1395
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: you want to stop on the bus and come down

1396
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 3: to met Life And I was like, nope, I gotta

1397
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 3: do the fellows in the morning.

1398
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: Let's go. Wow.

1399
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you little calms for us. Yeah, that's

1400
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 4: a special place right there.

1401
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 3: The the The funny thing is everybody's like, you get

1402
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 3: the itch, now you're gonna go back out on the road,

1403
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: and I'm like, hell nah, no, Like I I it

1404
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 3: was nice to stand up and do the dang thing

1405
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,480
Speaker 3: for one night. It was nice and I really appreciated

1406
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 3: the crowd going so nuts for it, and I felt

1407
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 3: like I played well, and I was like, all right,

1408
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: I will now go back into my quasi retirement at

1409
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 3: least for a few weeks. I might be, you know,

1410
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: a little giveaway here, but I might be might be

1411
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: sitting there with my buddy Chris Young in a couple

1412
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 3: of weeks. But you know, look at that.

1413
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 5: Ah wow, I'm just gonna do.

1414
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man.

1415
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 3: Just you know, go in, play a couple of songs,

1416
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 3: eat their food, drink their drinks, and then go.

1417
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 4: Back and just dip out of the back door. See you, Chris,

1418
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 4: see you, buddy.

1419
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 2: Would you ever? Would you ever go back to that

1420
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: world in a full time way?

1421
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 11: No?

1422
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no never never, I don't. I'm I

1423
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: love making music, man, and I love playing, but touring

1424
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 3: is a grind and it's tough, and like even you, yesterday,

1425
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: I went down because the place, the Amphitheater we played at,

1426
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know, maybe forty minutes from my house,

1427
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: and so we went down for sound check from like

1428
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: two We probably sound check from two to two thirty

1429
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: and then we were done and there was nothing to

1430
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 3: do the rest of the day until it was time

1431
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: to play a show at eight o'clock. And like, I know,

1432
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 3: most people will sit there and say, God, that's got

1433
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 3: to be a glorious life. But there's one hundred people

1434
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: just sitting around backstage and on buses trying to figure

1435
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 3: out how to occupy time. It's it's just it's not

1436
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 3: a it's from my mind. It's just not a fulfilling lifestyle.

1437
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 3: Playing the show is thinking awesome, like that's a great

1438
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 3: moment right now. It would it would take a it

1439
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 3: would take an offer that the touring world couldn't afford me.

1440
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, I am

1441
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 3: a you know, I am a sucker for a paycheck.

1442
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 3: But no, like, there's no If I'd have known I

1443
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 3: was going to have this much downtime in the summer,

1444
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 3: I might have played a little bit more with some people.

1445
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not going out on

1446
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 3: the road permanently.

1447
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 2: Wow, it's wild and that's truly the only way to

1448
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 2: make your money, right.

1449
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, yeah, Like everybody thinks of recordings, but

1450
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 3: unless you wrote the songs, we are the only country

1451
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: in the world that does not pay performance royalty on radio.

1452
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 3: So that what that means is every time you hear

1453
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 3: Blue Swede Shoes by Elvis on the radio, Elvis's estate

1454
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 3: makes nothing. Carl perkins estate makes sixth sense, so he

1455
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 3: wrote it. So for example, the Vamperry had a big

1456
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 3: hit with Better Dig two, nobody in the band made

1457
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 3: a dime off of anytime that's on the radio, nobody

1458
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 3: made anything like That's just that's the way it goes.

1459
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 3: If you didn't write the song, you don't make the

1460
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 3: money for it when it's on the radio. So and

1461
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 3: now record sales are non existent and the streaming services

1462
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 3: don't pay a livable wage to anybody. So the only

1463
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 3: way you can really make money in the music business

1464
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 3: is by touring. But now labels and merchandise companies and

1465
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 3: everybody are taking cuts of everything because they're not making

1466
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: any money anywhere else. So it's really just it. I

1467
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 3: think people would be alarmed if you actually saw the

1468
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 3: final balance sheet on you know, you see these numbers

1469
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 3: of Taylor Swift eighty million dollars this year. Now she

1470
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 3: grossed eighty million dollars, and Taylor's certainly the extreme, and

1471
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: she's doing fine, But there are plenty of artists that

1472
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 3: I know personally that are grossing five six million dollars

1473
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: in touring, and out of that five six million dollars,

1474
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 3: the artist is taking home three hundred four hundred thousand.

1475
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: Like that's not bad.

1476
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 4: This split wow really, which is a big reason why

1477
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 4: I believe baby Face even said that is much more

1478
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 4: lucrative for him to write songs for other people than

1479
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 4: to perform them himself, which is why he leaned into

1480
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 4: producing and writing more than actually performing.

1481
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 3: Always know this in the music business. Your booking agent

1482
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 3: takes standard fifteen percent, and your manager takes standard between

1483
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 3: fifteen and twenty percent. You can negotiate some of that down,

1484
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 3: but that's off the gross. So if I make ten

1485
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,440
Speaker 3: dollars for a show, thirty thirty percent of it seventy

1486
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 3: or thirty cents or sorry, three dollars of that ten

1487
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 3: is gone off the gross. I'm down to seven before

1488
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: I paid taxes, before I paid fees, before I paid insurance,

1489
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 3: before I paid any of my band guys, before I

1490
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 3: paid my crew guys. I'm out thirty percent before I've

1491
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: even made my first dollar. So you think about that,

1492
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 3: and then the record labels start taking a cut. Everybody

1493
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 3: starts getting paid out of all of it. That ten

1494
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,879
Speaker 3: dollars turns into two or three dollars really easily.

1495
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. It is not crazy, interesting though, fascinating

1496
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: world where the fellas as we hang out right here

1497
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Fellas Jason Fitz Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargano live from

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Speaker 2: the Tyraq dot com studios. All right, so guys, let

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Speaker 2: me ask you a question. All right, tell me who

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01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: you think is the uh has the shortest odds to

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01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 2: get fired.

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Speaker 3: In the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yep, well, the first coaches to go. I had the

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01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: odds in front.

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Speaker 3: Of me, so I wanted to be Eberflus. But I

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01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: don't think it is Eberflus because I heard his odds

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Speaker 3: for Coach of the year.

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Speaker 2: We're great, he's third, so Eba Flues. It's seven to

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Speaker 2: one to be the first head coach fired.

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01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm surprised. I'm surprised. He's third. That means there's

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Speaker 3: two people ahead of him.

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01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 2: Figure you got any surprising, Yeah, he's tied with somebody

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01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 2: and there's two guys ahead of him.

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01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 3: He's tied with somebody. Man, I oh, you know what, Actually,

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Speaker 3: what about what.

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01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 4: About Dabe that I was gonna say, Brian Daball, I

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01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: would have thought of Dabel is.

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Speaker 2: Nine to one? He is six, number six. How about

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01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 2: how about Robert salakrack solid number one? Really at five

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01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 2: to one? Well, he Salad is the number one candidate.

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Speaker 5: The fuck realistic or not?

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01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 4: Expectation Aaron Rodgers, the thought that they have all this talent,

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01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 4: they should be competing for a championship, et cetera, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: et cetera. You know, so he just won, and Woody

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01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 4: Johnson has been impatient in the past, so that that

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01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 4: doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't hate that call because you think about,

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Speaker 3: as I've said repeatedly, the next time the Jets handle

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01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 3: chaos well will be the first time the Jets handle

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01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 3: chaos well. And then you think about the fact that

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Speaker 3: they have a three thy seventy hundred four year old

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01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 3: quarterback that's coming off an achilles injury. Like, I just

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Speaker 3: I don't trust either of the old farts coming off

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 3: an Achilles injury this year. I know everybody else wants to.

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01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 3: I just refuse to do that. So then you start

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01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 3: thinking about, you know, if they have a slow start

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Speaker 3: by some and I'm looking at their schedule here, they

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01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 3: start with forty nine ers, So let's just let's play

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Speaker 3: this out. They Let's say they lose to the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers, they beat the Titans, they beat the Patriots

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 3: or two and one. Everybody's happy. The Broncos somehow pull

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01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: off the upset two and two. The Vikings beat him

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01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: two and three, the Bills beat them two and four. Yeah,

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01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 3: like Steelers beat him two and five. If that were

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Speaker 3: to happen, do they make a move who that would

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01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 3: take that? I could see it. I could see if

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01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers isn't playing well all of a sudden, Salah

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01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 3: is not handling it the way they want and they

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01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 3: just make a change for a kickstart to the offense.

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Speaker 3: Does that mean Natt Hackett gets another head coaching upper?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh god, who's number two?

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01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 3: Oh well, if Dable is number one?

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01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: Number one?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? Oh you know what I got one? I got one.

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01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: Dennis Allenvins Allen tied with Eber Flutes for number three.

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Speaker 3: Son of a Biscuit?

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Speaker 2: How am I getting David one? Uh?

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Speaker 5: What's take a wild swing here and say Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 2: Great guess. And I have to tell you, I'm stunned.

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Speaker 2: He is way down the list really, twenty five to one, really,

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Speaker 2: and I'm shocked.

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Speaker 5: Look, I like Doug.

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Speaker 2: Six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirty nineteen guys

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Speaker 2: out of them, Man, you're twenty. I love Doug.

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Speaker 5: You never want anybody to lose their job, But I

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01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 5: like those odds are right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta tell you, I'm shocked, and he's

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01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 2: he's that low man. So who's too? What's that?

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out who two would be?

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01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if.

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01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 3: You tell me it's McCarthy, I'm gonna throw up in there.

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Speaker 2: You go, McCarthy, d's king ding.

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01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 3: That is the stupidest thing.

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01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: McCarthy six to one, based.

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Speaker 3: On what this whole premise like. I am so tired

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01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,799
Speaker 3: of us judging the cowboys today by who the cowboys

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01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 3: were twenty years ago. Jerry Jones has proven himself time

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01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 3: and time again to be a pretty patient owner when

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 3: it comes to the coaching process, an overly patient owner

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01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 3: that gets faulted for keeping coaches around that people don't

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01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: think he should keep around. And now all of a sudden,

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01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 3: we think he gets a wild hair that suddenly makes

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01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: him fire the head coach. Like the narrative, narrative on

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones today is wrong all the time, Like, I

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01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 3: just don't understand it.

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01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 5: The only thought, And I do wonder.

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Speaker 4: And this is on the heels of the reports about

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01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick standing involved and wanting to be a head

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01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 4: coach again next year if things go south for Dallas,

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01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 4: whether or not he'll make a push for Bill Belichick,

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01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 4: and the fact that he's out there and that Jerry

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 4: wants to make a big swing and still wants to

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Speaker 4: win before he goes and all that. I wonder if

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Speaker 4: that factors into this at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, but even if he does that, it's not

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01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 3: gonna work in the middle of this season.

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01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unless it's some catastrophic true, Like, I don't

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01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 2: he's not getting fired now, Like could I see him

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01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: being fire at the end of the year without a doubt,

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01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 2: But not not now. I know, But he's he's six

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01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 2: to one, Solid five to one, McCarthy six to one,

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01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 2: Dennis Allen and Eberflus both seven to one, Dables nine

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01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 2: to one. There's someone who's eight to one who you

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01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 2: need to get who is eight one, so he would

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Speaker 2: be number five on the list.

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Speaker 3: Who are we missing?

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01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: Actually four if you count, because he ate Alans are

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01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 2: both seven to one.

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01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 3: Who are we missing that? It's even on the hot

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Speaker 3: seat right now?

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 2: Think about I'll tell you what I'll give you over

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01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: the break, and think about it. Where the fellas we

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Speaker 2: talking about the NFL and have in front of me

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01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 2: the odds on the coaches who were on the hot seat.

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01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: Basically these are the odds for the first coach to

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Speaker 2: be fired, And in reality, all it is is a

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01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 2: way they kind of talk about, you know, coaches that

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01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: are in trouble, guys who were on the hot seat.

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01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 2: You know, every year we always talk about Black Monday

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01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: when the season ends, and this is kind of how

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01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 2: we're looking ahead. So the guy eyes got it, Robin

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01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 2: sala Is the most is the hot the guy on

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01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 2: the hottest hot seat five to one McCarthy, which I

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01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 2: think we all agree is ridiculous because if he goes,

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01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 2: he'll go at the end of the year. He's not

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01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 2: gonna go door to the middle of the year. He

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01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: won't be early.

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01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, unless the Cowboys are just a disaster and like

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01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 5: oh and seven.

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01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: Or something, you know, yeah, you know you fix that.

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01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think at that crazy injuries, something outside

1647
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 4: of just poor coaching that would get them to that.

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01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: Point right exactly. Now, the Giants, the way the Giants run.

1649
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: If anybody's watching Hard Knocks, the Giants are a colossal mock.

1650
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 2: They are there. They're a sketch comedy show. I mean,

1651
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,879
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. I'm watching this thing. Joe Shane.

1652
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:00,919
Speaker 2: They had no plan yeah. I mean, I I'm shocked

1653
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: that the ownership has allowed some of that stuff to

1654
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 2: go over the air. They look horrible. Matter is a

1655
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 2: great owner, great owner? Who they Joe Shaye, that staff

1656
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,839
Speaker 2: are are just fools.

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01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 3: I don't understand why they've shown so much of misjudging

1658
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 3: the market, why they've shown so much of how it

1659
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 3: went down, Like at what point? You know, I appreciate it.

1660
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 3: I appreciate the fact that they're actually giving us some insight.

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01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 3: But then even above and beyond showing it, like, how

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01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 3: does that happen?

1663
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: You know?

1664
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 3: I just what if you're a Giants fan right now,

1665
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 3: how can you possibly feel good about the direction of

1666
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 3: the franchise?

1667
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 2: I don't.

1668
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 3: I don't understand that, you know. And so it definitely

1669
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 3: does feel like the franchise seems lost right now. They

1670
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 3: don't seem to have leadership that everybody can truly trust

1671
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 3: right now. I just I look at the Giants with

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01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: the massive side eye, like at this point, I just

1673
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if the Giants were one of the

1674
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 3: worst teams in the league this year.

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01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 4: I mean, the element of Brian dave Ball saying to

1676
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 4: himself quietly, do I really want to be here, like

1677
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 4: the way this place is functioning right now. Well, I mean, yeah,

1678
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 4: you're he seems like one of them, lonely, like you know,

1679
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 4: I don't want to say sane people that I'm not

1680
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 4: calling anybody insane, but like as far as somebody was

1681
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 4: like who knows what he's doing?

1682
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 5: It was on top of it.

1683
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 4: Competent, thank you, was the word I'm looking for, you know,

1684
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 4: of that entire group, he's the only one of where

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01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 4: that comes off looking really competent out.

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Speaker 2: Of all of them, I know, and listen, we all,

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01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: I mean we talked about this before. Dable's sharp guy,

1688
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: like listen. And the shame of it is I thought,

1689
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 2: like he turned down he should have been a head

1690
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 2: coach a year before. And who was it? Did? We

1691
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: would go to Detroit Dable? Who wanted to? I thought

1692
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 2: it was the lines.

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01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 3: There was a couple, Yeah, there were a couple of

1694
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:54,759
Speaker 3: places that interviewed him, but I don't remember.

1695
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: And he turned them down. Yeah, and he waited. He

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01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 2: went back to Buffalo. He waited, and he takes the giants.

1697
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: You go, all right, you know that makes sense. You

1698
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: take the giants right like you know, big franchise, New York.

1699
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 2: But through GN their front office is a mess. It's terrible.

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01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting as you talk about the coaches

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01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,839
Speaker 3: to get fired though that like, look, I know, whatever,

1702
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 3: five or six coaches a year every year end up

1703
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 3: losing their jobs. I get that. But if I look

1704
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 3: at like most current power rankings, I can just pull

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01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 3: up a random power ranking and I looked at the

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01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 3: bottom of the power ranking to see, Okay, who's gonna

1707
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 3: get fired first? Right, Well, if you go quickly through this,

1708
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 3: the Panthers aren't going to fire their coach right away

1709
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 3: this year, no matter what happens. There's no way. The

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01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 3: Broncos aren't going to fire their coach no matter what happens.

1711
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 3: Then we get to the Giants, that one we're not

1712
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 3: sure on. The Patriots not going to fire their coach,

1713
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 3: The Commander's not going to fire their coach right now,

1714
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 3: the Raiders not going to fire this coach, The Titan's

1715
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 3: not going to fire this coach. Have a hard time

1716
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: believing the Cardinals end up firing coach. Like if you

1717
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 3: start going up and down the list, there's actually a

1718
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 3: lot more I won't say stability, but a lot of

1719
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 3: the places that would be a candidate to be bad

1720
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 3: enough to fire their coach have made such a recent hire.

1721
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 3: I wonder if we're gonna see, you know, it's kind

1722
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 3: of like you have a run on quarterbacks in the draft,

1723
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 3: and the next year do as many teams need one.

1724
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 3: I just wonder if we're gonna see less coaches fired

1725
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 3: this year simply because the teams that have recently hired

1726
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 3: all understand they're in a rebuild that takes more than

1727
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 3: one year.

1728
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 2: Well, there's always why you got to think, there's always

1729
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 2: what six to eight people or five to eight coaches

1730
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 2: that go, and.

1731
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 3: I'd say, I'm hammering the under. I'm struggling to find

1732
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 3: I can't find six places right now that would fire.

1733
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: Well, let me give you the list and then and

1734
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 2: then let's let's play this game. Go ahead, fake.

1735
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, there's always one or two where

1736
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 4: you're like, damn, didn't see that one coming. It happens

1737
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 4: every single year, So accounting for that, you know, all.

1738
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 2: Right, So if I made if I made the over

1739
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: on their at sick and a half, I'm hammering the under.

1740
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: If I make the undirect five and a half.

1741
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 3: I'll take the under. But I'm not as aggressive. I

1742
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 3: think you know, I think I think you know I

1743
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 3: would take the under. I'll hammer the under on that fig.

1744
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd probably I'd take the under six six and

1745
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 4: a half, about five and a half, I'd probably go

1746
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 4: over to be honest.

1747
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: All right, So let's make that the number then. Okay, So,

1748
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: so can we find five or six coaches? Right? Six

1749
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 2: would be the over.

1750
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 4: Now, this is not just mid season. This is that

1751
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 4: by the end of the year, these jobs will be open.

1752
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 2: Correct, So let me read you the list first, so

1753
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 2: you see where the list is. And he gets his

1754
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: real quick, real quick for number five. So salads five

1755
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: to one, McCarthy six to one, Allen and the eber

1756
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 2: Flus both seven to one. You know who's eight to one.

1757
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 4: No, it's gonna sound weird, and I don't think it's

1758
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 4: I'd say Sean mc dermott, even though I don't think

1759
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 4: that should be that should be it.

1760
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 2: No, that's a good guess. He's not that far off.

1761
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 2: But that's a good guess. Bree. Do you want to

1762
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 2: tell him, because Bree got it?

1763
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 5: I do it's Nick Sirianni.

1764
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: Wow. Correct last year?

1765
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 3: That one actually makes a little bit of sense. Okay,

1766
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 3: I like, all right, I'll give you that, like if

1767
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 3: you that one does not surprise me. The McCarthy one

1768
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 3: maybe want to throw up in my mouth. That one.

1769
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I should have thought of that.

1770
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: All right, So here you go, Syria. He's eight to one,

1771
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Dable nine to one, All at ten to one, Antonio Pierce,

1772
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, Todd Bowles twelve to one, Kevin O'Connell, Sean McDermott,

1773
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: Sean Payton, Zach Taylor fourteenth to one, Jonathan Gannon, Mike McDaniel,

1774
01:29:54,840 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, Sean McVeigh all sixteen to one, Doug Peterson,

1775
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,560
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur twenty five to one. And then you got

1776
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 2: hard Ball Stike and Ryan.

1777
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, guys that aren't going anywhere.

1778
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say some guys are a little high.

1779
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 3: We got you back. Wait, the fella's got you back.

1780
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 4: In fact that the odds are as high on Tomlin

1781
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 4: and Sean mcvayor is interesting to me.

1782
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

1783
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 4: I think those will be two of the more secure

1784
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 4: guys in the league. Didn't Tomlin sign an extension that

1785
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 4: was a big thing. Yeah, I'm shocked, not going anywhere.

1786
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 3: Mcvay' is not going anywhere, right, These are you know,

1787
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 3: these are just dumb bets to get money from from

1788
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 3: people that are thinking with emotion. There's just some suckers. Yeah,

1789
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 3: well he's okay, go ahead, but.

1790
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: All right, so yeah, I'm sneezing my head off, right,

1791
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 2: all right, So let's see if we can find six

1792
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:02,799
Speaker 2: for the over all right, okay, potential? Yes, right, for sure.

1793
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 3: I'd say yes, I'll give Salah as the potential.

1794
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 2: Yes, McCarthy.

1795
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't think he's getting fired. I just don't really, yeah.

1796
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 5: I mean I don't think so either. I think Jerry likes.

1797
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 3: Really yeah, I just I mean.

1798
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 5: To fits his point.

1799
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 4: I mean, look how long he stuck with Jason Garrett,

1800
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 4: Like for the idea that Jerry Jones is this impulsive

1801
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 4: owner that'll do anything to get whoever hebody.

1802
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 2: It's firing McCarthy after if this year is another year

1803
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: of disappointment. Fire McCarthy's not impulsive.

1804
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm not saying that it is impulsive. I'm

1805
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 4: just saying he's been more patient than maybe he even

1806
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 4: should be over the last fifteen executive.

1807
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 2: No, I feel you. I'm just going, but this would

1808
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 2: be about this year would be about time. Like I

1809
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 2: quite frankly, I wouldn't have been surprised last year had

1810
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 2: he let him go, and.

1811
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 5: The surprise I was surprised he didn't.

1812
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 3: I said he wasn't gonna get Lego last year. I'll

1813
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 3: say he wasn't. He's not gonna get leg go again

1814
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 3: this year because they're still gonna win twelve over thirteen games.

1815
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys. The cow look, I know everything

1816
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 3: is about playoff success, but if you're Jerry Jones, you're

1817
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 3: gonna look around and you're gonna say, okay at some

1818
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 3: point that you don't know that the next coach is

1819
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 3: going to come in and be better. And Jason Garrett

1820
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 3: is actually a pretty good comp He was there for

1821
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 3: what nine years, for a very long time. I mean,

1822
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 3: McCarthy comes in and there's no question that that team

1823
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 3: wins games. So what we view as a failure would

1824
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 3: be the Cowboys not doing well enough in the postseason.

1825
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 3: I just I think even at that, Jerry's going to

1826
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 3: look around and say, well, I don't want to restart now.

1827
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 3: I don't have time to restart now. I'm gonna figure

1828
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 3: out how to fix whatever other issues I can, I

1829
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 3: don't think McCarthy gets fired.

1830
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm not saying that it wouldn't be justified

1831
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 4: to go in a different direction, Anthony, I just don't

1832
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 4: think that Jerry's going to do it, assuming that this

1833
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 4: season plays out the way the last what four or

1834
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 4: five however many it's been, get into the wildcard, lose

1835
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 4: the wildcard game, or make the divisional playoffs leak.

1836
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. I guess I think he stands bad.

1837
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 2: All right. Well, I mean he's at least I took.

1838
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 3: Pulled up his record and he's forty two and twenty five.

1839
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:04,480
Speaker 3: Like that's he's forty two and twenty five. Like that's

1840
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 3: a hell of a winning percentage. Like we only want

1841
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 3: to make it about super Bowls, but like, I think

1842
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 3: Jerry also understands there's more to it than that, like

1843
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 3: three straight years of twelve and five. I just I

1844
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 3: don't think there's any way. I don't think there's any

1845
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 3: way he's going.

1846
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 2: I agree, Wow, all right, I'm not making it all

1847
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 2: about super Bowls. But you gotta win a home playoff game.

1848
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 2: You can't get drupped in a home playoff game.

1849
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 5: I mean, they just did and he still has his job.

1850
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 2: So no, I don't And I don't think they're better

1851
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,799
Speaker 2: than they were last year at judging their off season,

1852
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:40,959
Speaker 2: so I don't see.

1853
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 3: I don't think they're better. I just don't think that.

1854
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't think they're Like, I don't think they're gonna

1855
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 2: win the division.

1856
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,600
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna win the division. They're they're a

1857
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 3: twelve team. To me, yeah, they're.

1858
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Gonna beat the Eagles, because I think the Eagles are

1859
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 2: a pretty good team.

1860
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 3: I do think the Eagles are pretty good team. The

1861
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 3: Cowboys are coming off a twelve win year and they

1862
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 3: didn't get worse, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

1863
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 3: but they didn't do anything.

1864
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:06,759
Speaker 2: The Eagles added Barkley.

1865
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 3: This is Yeah, the addition to Barkley is a nice addition,

1866
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 3: it really is. But to me, the Dallas Cowboys are

1867
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 3: just like the Buffalo Bills were last year. Everybody was

1868
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 3: saying the Bills were gonna drop off and they weren't

1869
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 3: gonna do well and blah blah blah, and what do

1870
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 3: we know the Bills, Like the Bills just did what

1871
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 3: the Bills did. Like, in order for Philly to pass Dallas,

1872
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 3: Philly's got to win a few more games, and Dallas

1873
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 3: has got to lose a few more games. Three straight

1874
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 3: years of twelve and five and they bring that entire quarterback.

1875
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 3: I just don't why is Dallas going to lose more

1876
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 3: football games? To me? Even if they lose one more

1877
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 3: to Philly, that that's still They're still going to be

1878
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 3: an eleven or twelve win team.

1879
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 5: And that Yeah, they were separated by a game last year.

1880
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 5: So if you want to flip flop, one's the division,

1881
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 5: one one's the wildcard.

1882
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's well, the rest of the divisions the

1883
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 2: Giants watch, there aren't any good. But I you like

1884
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 2: Cowboys and more than I though. I let's look at

1885
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 2: their schedule and again I look at there. I look

1886
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: at them, and I just don't like with their off season.

1887
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:10,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they improved.

1888
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 4: I just don't think they got much remarkably worse. I mean,

1889
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 4: where'st have a run game last year?

1890
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1891
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, if Tony Palm didn't do anything from last year.

1892
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 2: But at some point you can't live like that. At

1893
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 2: some point that bites you.

1894
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 3: I mean, twelve wins last year didn't buy them.

1895
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,440
Speaker 2: I think that was the anomaly.

1896
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 3: But I don't think last year was an anomaly. I

1897
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 3: think the norm, like, this is what we're gonna do.

1898
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna put it on DAK. Dak's gonna put up

1899
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 3: MVP like numbers and we're gonna win a bunch of

1900
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 3: games with our.

1901
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, you've got a guy, you got two contract

1902
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 2: like worries that your whole offense is on two guys

1903
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 2: that have it, that have issues.

1904
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:49,719
Speaker 5: Well, that's an off season problem.

1905
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 4: I mean if it's just about coming into the season now,

1906
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, the DAK and the CD thing is

1907
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 4: an issue, but that's gonna be an issue in January, February, March,

1908
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 4: not to start the season.

1909
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, DA CD having their contracts doesn't mean that suddenly

1910
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 3: on a Sunday.

1911
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 2: Guys like it more than I do. I don't like them.

1912
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 2: I think they have a step back. Let's take a

1913
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 2: look at their schedule. At Cleveland.

1914
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 3: Wins, that's a win for Dallas. To me, I love

1915
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,799
Speaker 3: I love Cleveland. I think Cleveland's a super Bowl contender.

1916
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 3: But I don't love DeShawn.

1917
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 4: Until I see Yeah, until I see DeShawn, I can't

1918
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 4: have faith them again.

1919
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:30,719
Speaker 2: All Right, New Orleans home when Baltimore home loss, Yeah,

1920
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 2: most likely, most likely at the Giants win.

1921
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 3: Well, if we're going to talk about getting worse, like,

1922
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,839
Speaker 3: let's also acknowledge that Baltimore has a new defensive coordinator,

1923
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 3: lost a bunch of people in free agency. We have

1924
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 3: no idea what the Ravens is going to look like

1925
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. But yes, I'll give

1926
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 3: you that. I'll give you that loss.

1927
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 2: All right. At the Giants win, ye, at Pittsburgh.

1928
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Speaker 4: Win, so toss up, but I probably give them the

1929
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 4: win on that So Sunday night in Pittsburgh.

1930
01:36:55,640 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's quarterback situation is trash Wells a step back. I don't,

1931
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think Russ. I think Russ is

1932
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 3: completely washed.

1933
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 2: He could be. I mean now, I mean.

1934
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 3: You can't you can't sit you can't tell me like

1935
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 3: this is my my great Russ frustration. We can't sit

1936
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 3: here on one hand and say, Sean Payton is a

1937
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 3: quarterback whisperer, one of the greatest of all times, and

1938
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 3: he can get everything. He's so good he's gonna make

1939
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 3: bo Nix a superstar. I mean, Russ was fine with him,

1940
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 3: But if you had that brilliant genius, the Einstein of

1941
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 3: quarterbacks helping you and that's what you got. Now you're

1942
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 3: going to Arthur Smith like that. If I'm going to

1943
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 3: give Sean Payton as much credit as I'm being asked

1944
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 3: to give Sean Payton every day, then there has to

1945
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 3: be a drop off for the quarterback that's no longer

1946
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,879
Speaker 3: working with Sean Payton. And that quarterback was only okay

1947
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 3: with Sean Payton. He was only okay enough that they

1948
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 3: were pretty happy just letting him walk out the door.

1949
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Speaker 2: I listen, I agree with you. I you know, Sean

1950
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: Payton could wait to get rid of Rouss. So now

1951
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 2: you know, like I feel you, I don't know. I mean,

1952
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 2: I will shoo what happens.

1953
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 4: I mean, there's an element and a few people said

1954
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 4: this going into it, there's a little bit of a

1955
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,679
Speaker 4: square peg round hole with how Sean Payton plays offense

1956
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 4: and what Russ has done best throughout his career, while

1957
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 4: also acknowledging that Russ has fallen off for sure.

1958
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 5: So there's no guarantee that.

1959
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't be completely stunned if he had

1960
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bounce back.

1961
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,759
Speaker 5: I wouldn't either, guys.

1962
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:22,839
Speaker 3: I don't even think he's starting for most of the season.

1963
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 3: There's a field so little win. I mean, so what

1964
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 3: happens if you're the Steamer.

1965
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 2: I do know a lot of Steeler fits are more

1966
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,839
Speaker 2: excited about Fields than they worry about rots.

1967
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 3: Think about this. If Russ comes in and plays lights out,

1968
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 3: what are they gonna do. Are they gonna suddenly give

1969
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 3: him a massive contract yet again at his age, for

1970
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 3: huge money for the next three years. Organizationally, they need

1971
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 3: Justin Fields to be more successful. That's a better long

1972
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,719
Speaker 3: term plan for them. I think once we get into camp,

1973
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 3: Justin Fields is gonna have the chance to win the job.

1974
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 3: I think by October Justin Fields is the starting quarterback

1975
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 3: in the Steelers.

1976
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 2: Wow.

1977
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 4: Wow, all right, I certainly can see it happening. There's

1978
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 4: a path for it to happen for sure.

1979
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, let's take a quick to you.

1980
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1981
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2005
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Speaker 2: be Alright, real quick, guys, I look at that at

2020
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 2: that team right, and you go, now you got their

2021
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:47,640
Speaker 2: offense c d ridiculous, right, Brandon Cooks, Jalen Tolbert. I

2022
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 2: like Jake ferguson the tight end. The running game. We've

2023
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 2: talked about. The draft is not going to help you

2024
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 2: in really in that spot. You love Zach Martin. You

2025
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 2: like the right side of that line with Terren Steele.

2026
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 2: You know Tyler Geydon will see at left tackle. I

2027
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 2: look at it and I go defensively. You love Micah

2028
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 2: and I you know, I like their secondary. I think

2029
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 2: they're they're I think They're going to be fine defensively, offensively.

2030
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Speaker 2: You know, it's just again a lot of DAK and CD.

2031
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 2: Is that going to translate in the twelve again? You

2032
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:31,719
Speaker 2: think so, Finci.

2033
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it has three straight years.

2034
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 2: I mean you know this, but that has nothing to

2035
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 2: do with going into this year.

2036
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, Okay, they scored five hundred and

2037
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 3: thirty points three years ago, they scored four to sixty

2038
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 3: seven two years ago, and they scored five hundred and

2039
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 3: nine last year. Like DAK was an MVP finalist last year,

2040
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 3: And I know that has nothing to do with this year,

2041
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 3: but all the all the things that you just mentioned,

2042
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 3: like that was their reality going last year too. I

2043
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 3: think what they told you in the draft is that

2044
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 3: they are going to put this all on DAK and

2045
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 3: CD and they're gonna win a bunch of games that way.

2046
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Now will that win in the playoffs? Will that win in.

2047
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 2: But we got on this topic of it because of

2048
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 2: the coaches, right, and whether or not McCarthy would get fired.

2049
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 2: Let's finish go through the schedule because we had done

2050
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 2: we're doing that exercise. So, uh, you guys had them

2051
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 2: at a generous one where we were.

2052
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, the only loss being to Baltimore, I believe.

2053
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 2: Through the first few weeks, correct, yes, yes, And then

2054
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 2: they go to then their home Detroit.

2055
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 3: That Detroit matchups. I think Detroit's great, so I'll get

2056
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 3: them the loss there. Detroit's gonna win.

2057
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd agree with that, So I listen, I would

2058
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 2: agree with you guys that before they're bye week, they're

2059
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 2: four and two. That seems about fair no matter what happens, right,

2060
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 2: like correct that like they look that looks to be

2061
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 2: pretty realistic. Four and two.

2062
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and knowing how the NFL goes, maybe they beat Baltimore,

2063
01:43:58,040 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 4: but maybe they lose to somebody they shouldn't.

2064
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 2: That's that's the NFL, you know. So then they're at

2065
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 2: San Francisco home or at San Francisco at Atlanta. They

2066
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 2: lose one of those games.

2067
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 4: Right, they lose to San Francisco routine. Yeah, they haven't

2068
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 4: beaten San Francisco in since the right since Fillmore era whatever.

2069
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh And and then and I was gonna say this,

2070
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 2: and then their home Eagles home Texans, So they lose

2071
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 2: one of those games, right, yeah.

2072
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're gonna split with the Eagles this year,

2073
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 3: so I don't care if we give that. But yeah,

2074
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 3: and I think they can beat the Texans.

2075
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 2: But I like the Texans.

2076
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the Texans too, but I think that

2077
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 4: I think they can beat the Texans at home on

2078
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 4: a Monday night. I can see that that wouldn't be

2079
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 4: that wouldn't be a shock.

2080
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Like I just think they're gonna lose one of those games,

2081
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,680
Speaker 2: like they're like, like they're gonna lose either Eagles or

2082
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 2: Tech in that spot.

2083
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 5: So the one and one and that in that spot,

2084
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 5: sure right, I can.

2085
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 2: I'll buy that, and then there and then they go

2086
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 2: and they got at Washington home, so I got no

2087
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 2: problem giving them two wins there. Yeah, I agree. Then

2088
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 2: they're it's Monday night home, so that's four and two,

2089
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 2: four through their eight and four. Okay, then there are

2090
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 2: home Bengals win. Okay, you gotta win. I give them

2091
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: a win there too. I got a lot.

2092
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 3: Look, I really like it. I really like the Bengals.

2093
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:27,639
Speaker 2: I do.

2094
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 3: But I also think it's fair to say, hey, we

2095
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 3: don't know you know Joe Burrow's injury issues. One thing

2096
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 3: to the Bengals address the offensive line. If I had

2097
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 3: a nickel for every time I've said that in the

2098
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 3: last six years. I think I'd be rich at this point.

2099
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 3: They try, it never works, And Luon Arumo's defense was

2100
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 3: not good enough last year. I think we're sleeping on

2101
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 3: how bad that defense was at times last year for

2102
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 3: the Bengals. So yeah, I think that as much as

2103
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 3: I like the Bengals, I don't think they're in the

2104
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 3: same caliber where the Cowboys are going to be.

2105
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 5: Also, Zach Moss do a lot for you in the backfield.

2106
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 2: Fair fair. Then then they're at Carolina. That's a win.

2107
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 2: Then they're home Tampa. That's a win. Then I would

2108
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 2: think so, and then they're at Philly, then they're and

2109
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,440
Speaker 2: then the end of season they're home Washington.

2110
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so that's what is that? Eleven wins?

2111
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 3: No, I got them at thirteen and four or twelve

2112
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 3: and five, depending on how well they're gonna lose.

2113
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 2: I mean they're not gonna got we have them in

2114
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 2: the group being four into eight and four, these five

2115
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 2: I gotta go watch three and two, right, last five?

2116
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 3: Last five? Yeah? Like because look, yeah, I mean I'm

2117
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 3: just going I think they beat the No. No, but

2118
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,759
Speaker 3: I beat it like earlier you said with the Texans

2119
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 3: and the Eagles, Like I think they beat the Texans,

2120
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 3: so I think they're gonna split with the Eagles. So

2121
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 3: if I gave them a loss there, I think that

2122
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 3: then I got to give them the win over the

2123
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 3: Eagles later.

2124
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah either way, Yeah.

2125
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 3: Either way. Worst case scenario for me, I still get

2126
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 3: to I get to either twelve and five or thirteen

2127
01:46:58,880 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 3: and four.

2128
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 2: I'll bet you right now, they're not thirteen to four.

2129
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirteen, I'll make with you right now. Thirteen's hefty

2130
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 3: for any NFL team. But just going through the exercise,

2131
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 3: we just went through it, I don't pull off a

2132
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,640
Speaker 3: twelve and five like. I still look at that and

2133
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, yep, that's it. This is a team that's

2134
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 3: gonna win twelve games.

2135
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 4: And one thing too that's doesn't get talked about is

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Speaker 4: and Dan Quinns did a great job there the last

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01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 4: few years, and that's why you got the head coaching

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01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 4: job in Washington. I'm not so sure Mike Zimmer is

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01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 4: not an upgraded defensive coordinator there, and that could be

2140
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 4: good enough for another wine.

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01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 2: Listen, well, that side of the ball I like better

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01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 2: than the offensive side.

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01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 5: Sure, but if you guys like you guys a team

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01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 5: right too.

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01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: And especially you are just automatically penciling in that offense.

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01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,799
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like the offense.

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01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying the team, as we're saying that

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01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 4: the Cowboys aren't as good as they were last year,

2149
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 4: how many wins are they going to have? And I'm

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01:47:55,920 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 4: taking the entire team into account. Offense included, so basing

2151
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 4: basing it on all of that is how.

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01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 2: I twice like, we haven't beat Washington twice. I mean

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01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,719
Speaker 2: they could split with Washington. They could Washington gives them trouble.

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01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 3: I mean, Philly could split with Washington. Do like, look

2155
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 3: when I say they're they're twelve and five, that could

2156
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 3: turn into eleven and six. Of course, right now that

2157
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:22,759
Speaker 3: that's part of how that goes. I mean, frankly, Washington

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01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:25,639
Speaker 3: and New York could catch either Philly or the Cowboys

2159
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 3: on a bad day. And it's like that's that's the

2160
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 3: modern NFL just sort of being what the modern NFL is.

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01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:34,679
Speaker 3: But if I'm applying what I always say, like universal

2162
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt, if I'm looking at everything across

2163
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 3: the landscape and giving everybody the Okay, let's see how

2164
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 3: this goes, I don't I don't see a drop off

2165
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 3: in the Cowboys offense this year, and I Frank.

2166
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 5: There's also Hellum and Anthony.

2167
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 4: Has anybody else in the NFC East approved enough to

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01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 4: say like they're gonna vault above Dallas leaps and bounds.

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01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 5: Now there's that part too.

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01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 2: Now I don't I don't believe that anybody. I think

2171
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 2: it's a two division.

2172
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 5: Now I think it's Eagles Cowboys.

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01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 3: And it's just so like I used the Bills comparison earlier,

2174
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 3: because coming into last season, I felt like what was

2175
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 3: happening is everybody was so in love with the Jets

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01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 3: particularly and the Dolphins that coming into last season, the

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01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 3: narrative that was so loud was that the Bills were

2178
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 3: going to take a big step back. And what I

2179
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 3: kept saying before last year is if we want to

2180
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 3: talk about the Bills playoff failures, that's conversation one. But

2181
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 3: we can't let that seep into how we look at

2182
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 3: the Bills going into the regular season, because at some

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01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 3: point they are who they are and who they've been

2184
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:34,640
Speaker 3: and consistent, and the Bills didn't necessarily look good and

2185
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 3: they had to go on a run, but at the

2186
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 3: end of the day, they still got there. And like

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01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 3: for me as much as the same question marks that

2188
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 3: you have right now would have been the question marks

2189
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,760
Speaker 3: I had about the offense last year. And all they

2190
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 3: did was score a boatload of points with an MVP

2191
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 3: Kennedy quarterback that put up a bunch of yards. They're

2192
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 3: superstar wide receiver, and somehow it worked into twelve wins.

2193
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just year.

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01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 2: To year is is so different. I can't go well,

2195
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,679
Speaker 2: all right because last year that offense moved the ball.

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01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't I think they got worse. I mean, I

2197
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 2: look at Brandon Cooks. Is he gonna stay? Heal fees,

2198
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 2: he gonna do anything for you at this age now?

2199
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 2: Like if Tolbert. I mean, I don't know. I mean

2200
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 2: I like the tight end and I think they can

2201
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 2: be Ron thick Fergus is good, but he's not you know, Kittle.

2202
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 3: Did you did you feel and the run game you

2203
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 3: brought back?

2204
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 2: You know why you bring back Edmon Smith?

2205
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think they just showed you they

2206
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 3: don't really care about the run. I'm not sure how much.

2207
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how that works when you got

2208
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 2: I look at their white outs and I go all right,

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01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 2: Other than CD, Yeah.

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01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 3: But is there a single person that's sitting there saying,

2211
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 3: oh my god, the Titans got Tony Pollard. Man, that's

2212
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,719
Speaker 3: gonna be epic. Like they didn't have a good running

2213
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 3: game last.

2214
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 2: Year, right it just yeah, dude, I mean probably you

2215
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 2: bring it back Zeke.

2216
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 4: Well look, they're not gonna give the ball to Zeke

2217
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 4: five hundred times. Like I do think there's an element

2218
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 4: of a physical part of the run game that they

2219
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 4: didn't have, as he brings them and and like running backs,

2220
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 4: you know, come and go diamond dozen for dude, Von

2221
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 4: could jump up and have a great year this year

2222
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 4: then you know how running back situations where.

2223
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 2: You know, I hear you. But like I again, I

2224
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 2: look at him and I go, that's not good. I

2225
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 2: mean there are other teams who have Like listen, you know,

2226
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 2: I thought the I thought the Eagles, uh run game

2227
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:34,679
Speaker 2: last year was weak, right, I mean they couldn't. They couldn't.

2228
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 2: They took Jalen Hurts out of the run game, and

2229
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 2: they really they teams adjusted to them, and I like

2230
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift, but they didn't even throw them to them

2231
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 2: out of the backfield. But now you got a guy like Barkley,

2232
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 2: who theoretically is a huge upgrade. You know that's just

2233
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 2: in the division you go around, Like when you look

2234
01:51:55,760 --> 01:52:00,120
Speaker 2: at offenses and you look at spacey can you still

2235
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 2: need multiple I think assets to create space.

2236
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 4: So I guess the Cowboys, what if they lose Michael Gallup,

2237
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 4: I mean, Lamb's back is a is a year better.

2238
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 4: Probably Ferguson's not getting worse. Brandon Cooks. Sure, maybe there's

2239
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 4: another year of decline there, I guess.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, who's your Okay, who's your other player?

2241
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 2: Like again, but you need one?

2242
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 5: Do you need one?

2243
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 4: If you have a standout receiver like CD Lamb, do

2244
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 4: you need Last year show I show weight.

2245
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 2: So the whole offense is Dak and Cedee Lamb. Yes,

2246
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 2: And you're gonna tell me that that's gonna win this

2247
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:35,759
Speaker 2: year again?

2248
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? Last years Lamb average one hundred. Last year CD

2249
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 3: Lamb averaged one hundred and three yards a game. Next

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Speaker 3: story forty one.

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01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 2: I like I saw it. He was great. I'm not

2252
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 2: telling you.

2253
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying when we talk about replace it,

2254
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 3: but like Tony Pollard last year only ran for sixty

2255
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 3: yards a game. But they but the Cowboys is a

2256
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 3: team averaged one hundred and twelve yards a game. They

2257
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 3: got it from other places, so Zeke doesn't have to

2258
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:01,600
Speaker 3: come in and be great. They need running backs to

2259
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 3: average to make up for sixty yards a game, and

2260
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,759
Speaker 3: they'll be right where they were last year. Like Brandon

2261
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 3: Cooks last year was the number two wide receiver. Ferguson

2262
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 3: was a little higher than he was but at the

2263
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 3: tight end. But Cooks only averaged forty one yards a

2264
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 3: game and they still won twelve games. And you're saying, well,

2265
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 3: that was last year, but like that's the only thing

2266
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 3: we have to go on is that, Hey, this is

2267
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 3: who the Cowboys are, and it works for twelve wins

2268
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 3: a year for two straight, three straight years.

2269
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 2: All right, Again, I mean I think year to year

2270
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 2: it changes, and I think defenses evolved, and there's tape

2271
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 2: on you and I watched teams all of a sudden

2272
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 2: attacked other teams differently. So I disagree with you, guys.

2273
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 2: I disagree with I think that I don't think they're

2274
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 2: gonna have the same prowess as they did last year.

2275
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 2: But let's see.

2276
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, right, year two of McCarthy being the

2277
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 4: play caller for consistency, like, I think all of that helps.

2278
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 4: I mean they can also adjust to the adjustments. Like again,

2279
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 4: see Lamb is not getting any worse.

2280
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 2: You listen, ceedee, Lamb's great. I'm arguing that I just

2281
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 2: think you need more than CD LAB to have a

2282
01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 2: complete offense. And I look at their run game and

2283
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 2: I think it's non existent. And you talk, well, they

2284
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 2: didn't have a run game last year. Yeah, but Pollary,

2285
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 2: we still had had more than than uh Zeke, I

2286
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,520
Speaker 2: mean Zeke's I'm study.

2287
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 5: I don't know how big of a role Zeke is

2288
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 5: actually gonna play.

2289
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 2: To be honest, I mean you better hope that Douche

2290
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 2: is douche McAllister. I mean, like what you did there.

2291
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I hear you that. I don't think Zeke's

2292
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 3: gonna be great. All I'm saying is it between all

2293
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 3: the running backs room, because whether it's you know, Rico

2294
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 3: last year averaged almost twenty three yards. Again, all they

2295
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 3: gotta do is make up sixty yards. They're gonna make

2296
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 3: up sixty yards games. Every one of their backs essentially

2297
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 3: ran for four yards of carry, So they're just gonna

2298
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 3: put somebody and they can continue to get four yards

2299
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 3: to carry. And as long as they can do that,

2300
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna be just fine.

2301
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, do the committee approach you have CD. Maybe Ferguson's

2302
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 4: even better. Maybe one of these young receivers who were

2303
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 4: not even talking about jumps up and does something that

2304
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 4: we don't even know and has a big camp like

2305
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 4: you produced.

2306
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 2: A lot of ifs and maybe it's just biolig.

2307
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 5: Somebody's for a lot of teams.

2308
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but that's the fans do that, like

2309
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 2: where you were going.

2310
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 4: Also going off of empirical this has happened here in

2311
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 4: year out for the last four years, and they've only

2312
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 4: gotten better.

2313
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 2: So there's no reason, there's no they've gotten better. Yeah,

2314
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 2: had seventeen hundred receiving yards last year.

2315
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2316
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not arguing with CD lamb okay.

2317
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 5: Okay, but the what have they lost is the question?

2318
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 5: And they haven't lost anything last year.

2319
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 3: But also like you're you're you're asking me to to

2320
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 3: to get to not get benefit of the doubt to

2321
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, but then I'm supposed to get benefit of

2322
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 3: the doubt the Saquon who's had, let's be real, one

2323
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 3: good year in the last five years.

2324
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 2: Listen again, I don't I don't care how you look

2325
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 2: at or Farkley like in any in any kind of way,

2326
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, Dude, I look at it and go

2327
01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 2: and forget about the Eagles thing because I'm looking at

2328
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 2: I'm really looking at this thing objectively, like I have

2329
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 2: my own questions about the Eagles. Like I again, I

2330
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 2: just look at their personnel and I go that personnel

2331
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 2: is much better than the Cowboys personnel. Offensively. Now I

2332
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 2: don't know. Defensively, I think the Cowboys are better, but

2333
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 2: offensively I don't even think it's close. Now here's the issue.

2334
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 2: If Sirianne and Kellen Moore is a dud as a

2335
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 2: coach and Hirts can't get you know, reclaimed, and then

2336
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 2: they could have some issues. But I look at Barkley,

2337
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 2: had no offensive line, no quarterback, and what he was bad, well,

2338
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 2: I don't.

2339
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 4: Even say even I mean last year, I would say

2340
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 4: Philadelphia was still better skill position wise top to bottom

2341
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 4: than Dallas was, and yet we still.

2342
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 5: Ended up where we were. So that I'm not saying, well.

2343
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 2: They were chen in one and they fell off a cliff,

2344
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 2: and they fell off a cliff because they were disjointed

2345
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 2: offensively is whatever, And the fact that their defense was

2346
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 2: just a complete mess you know, the no consistency at

2347
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 2: the at the coordinator spot. And I think there's the

2348
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 2: same kind of question like going in you know again

2349
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Speaker 2: with Syriah s y Sirianne. We started this whole conversation

2350
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 2: on the coaches on you know, coaches getting fired, and

2351
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 2: he Syrianny should be up there because he's a guy

2352
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 2: that is on the hot seat in a big, big way.

2353
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 2: All we're gonna take a quick time out. Uh wow, man,

2354
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 2: we're bogged down on the NFC East. I love it,

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Speaker 2: fellas hanging Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, fellas from the tai Iraq dot com studio

2361
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 2: was nothing better than the debating some nf L. So

2362
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 2: while we got sidechecked on the Cowboys, we were looking

2363
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 2: to find six coaches who could be fired after this season.

2364
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 2: So we agreed Sala and then we went to McCarthy.

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01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 2: So I'll put McCarthy to the side. Neither of you

2366
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 2: believe McCarthy will be fired, correct.

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01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 5: I don't correct, Yes, Okay.

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01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 2: So I'll put McCarthy to the side. I would consider

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01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 2: he's a chance, but I'll put the Dennis Allen chance.

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01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, very good chance.

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01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, that's two Eberflus, Yeah, the chance for sure,

2372
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:54,080
Speaker 2: that's three, Sirianni, uh, I don't I think.

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01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a chance. The Eagles are bad enough,

2374
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,080
Speaker 3: but you would know better than me. Like in my mind,

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01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 3: I still think the are, you know, one of the

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01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 3: better teams in the NFC, So I have a hard

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01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 3: time imagining that they get he gets fired. But also

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01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 3: the expectation there is so high. I mean, it would

2379
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 3: it given the way that we were curious whether or

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01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 3: not he would keep his job a few months ago.

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01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 3: I guess it's.

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01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 5: Possible, right, Yeah, that's that's kind of my thinking.

2383
01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 4: Fits is like, what is the standard, Like if he

2384
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:22,440
Speaker 4: wins they won eleven games last year, if they win

2385
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 4: ten and are a wildcard again and they flame out

2386
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 4: in the first round, like and again there's rumors swirling

2387
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:32,400
Speaker 4: because of potential potentially Jeffrey Lewis's relationship with Bill Belichick,

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01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:36,320
Speaker 4: and there could be something there, Like I I generally

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01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 4: would say no, but considering that this situation is somewhat unique,

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Speaker 4: I would say this here, Yanni. Yes, but it's probably

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01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 4: a likely candidate to be on the hot seat and

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Speaker 4: be fired.

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01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 2: Sure, so here's kind of where I'm looking at it.

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01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 2: I think one of McCarthy or Sirianne will probably be gone.

2395
01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 5: So you don't think they both stick it out.

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01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 2: If things, I think it's it's it's I think one

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Speaker 2: of them is going to be really good or and

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Speaker 2: then I don't think both. I mean, I guess it

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Speaker 2: could happen, but both have expectations beyond eleven and six. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like if both teams lose the first round of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, I mean I gotta believe that one of

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Speaker 2: those coaches is gone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, especially if you lose the weight both of

2404
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 4: those teams lost in the first round last year.

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Speaker 2: It's all right.

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Speaker 3: So do you, Anthony, do you think, like, let's play

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Speaker 3: this out there that let's say the Eagles win twelve games,

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Speaker 3: but they lose in the first round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Twelve games and.

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Speaker 5: You win the division, but you're losing the division round.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they get if they get smack, if

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Speaker 2: they get smacked like Dallas did, yes.

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Speaker 3: Then I'll put him on the hot seat list.

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, if he went if he goes twelve, if

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Speaker 2: he goes twelve and five, and they lose a home

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Speaker 2: playoff game like the Cowboys lost the home playoff game

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Speaker 2: get dropped in their building, then yeah, I think he's gone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think if you butt that next to

2419
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:07,840
Speaker 4: what happened to them against Tampa last year, then I

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02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 4: think that probably will be grounds to make a move.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well, and I'll throw it back at you.

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Speaker 2: It does. If the same thing happened to the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: and they get dropped at home in the first round

2424
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 2: of the playoffs, what happens, I.

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Speaker 5: Think they should make a move. I just don't know

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02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:26,760
Speaker 5: if they do.

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Speaker 2: It's weird.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they would either.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what do they think for Jason Garrett to

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Speaker 3: get fired?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: But Jones and Syrian he's been into a Super Bowl

2433
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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, and he's getting his potentially

2434
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 4: has more likely a higher chance of him getting the

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Speaker 4: acts than Mike McCarthy is the way that I look at.

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Speaker 2: It, which is insane when you think about it. Right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: he's been coaching three years. He's won double digit games

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Speaker 2: all three years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it took an abject disaster for Chasing Garrett to

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Speaker 3: get fired. I think it's we I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: anything this year that's gonna get Mike McCarthy fired, including

2442
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 3: first time lost unless the wheels fall off on this

2443
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:10,839
Speaker 3: entire seaies that's wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, okay, I just I don't. I don't

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02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:21,320
Speaker 2: get it, all right, So that's one, two three, we

2446
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:29,320
Speaker 2: have three, uh like Lee's one maybe in Sirianny. All right,

2447
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 2: so we'll finish this little exercise coming up. We still

2448
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 2: have a big hour left. Don't go anywhere. We're the

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Speaker 2: ours who's listening to the program right now, can I.

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Speaker 3: Tell you a quick Gandhi story? By the way, one

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Speaker 3: of the most incredible people I've ever worked with at

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Speaker 3: any place I've ever been. I emailed him when I

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02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 3: first got to ESPN and I was like, Hey, man,

2477
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Speaker 3: I really want to figure this this place out, and

2478
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 3: I love your work. Would you be willing to sit down?

2479
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 3: We sat down in the calf for hours. I'll never

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Speaker 3: forget that. Like he's he's truly like a family, Like

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Speaker 3: he's an amazing dude. So I hit him up last week.

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Speaker 3: He's like, we gotta we gotta connect. I'm hanging out.

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Speaker 3: We gotta connect while I'm in Connecticut, and he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would love that. So I said, I said any day,

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Speaker 3: but Friday, I'm sitting in with Jordan Davis and so

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Speaker 3: you know, Kevin. Kevin's like, okay, cool. So then yesterday

2487
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 3: he texted me, He's like, wait, you're not around tonight, right,

2488
02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 3: you can't hang And I said, no, I'm sitting in

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Speaker 3: with Jordan Davis. Well, I get a text later from

2490
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Speaker 3: him and he's like, wait, his wife, Monica, who's a

2491
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 3: saint and an amazing person, was going to that concert

2492
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Speaker 3: last night. The video that you played earlier, that from

2493
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 3: me sitting in with Jordan, was taken by Kevin's wife, Monica.

2494
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:05,000
Speaker 3: She took it from her seats. And so he texted

2495
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 3: me and he's like, I just figured out that you're

2496
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 3: playing at the show. My wife is going to tonight.

2497
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 3: And he's like, I guess I just thought you were

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Speaker 3: doing something with Jordan Davis, the Philadelphia Eagle, like the

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Speaker 3: football player, and I'm like, I'm like, my Gandhi, I'm

2500
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Speaker 3: five to nine a Bucks sixty five. What I ain't

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Speaker 3: playing with a football player. I'm playing with you know,

2502
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 3: the white dude that sings country music. Let's go like

2503
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 3: that's a souh Monica. And I had the chance to

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02:05:27,560 --> 02:05:30,000
Speaker 3: make fun of Vin a little bit last night. All

2505
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Speaker 3: love all love him?

2506
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Speaker 2: All right, can I make a can I can? I

2507
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Speaker 2: it did something?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So when you first said, hey, I did something

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Speaker 2: with Jordan Davis, the first thought that came to my

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02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 2: mind was that I was like, oh, Cooley must have

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Speaker 2: done something for Yahoo. It was.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 3: They did a funny thing where Jordan Davis the country

2516
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:02,680
Speaker 3: actually met Jordan Davis, the football player. They did like

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Speaker 3: a jersey swap thing. I think, oh, that's cool. Yeah,

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02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:07,920
Speaker 3: but it is. It's weird, like one of them is

2519
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 3: gonna have to become the other. Like we're just gonna

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Speaker 3: have to make it the other Jordan Davis. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I nominate the football player to be the other Jordan

2522
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Speaker 3: Davis because I knew the singer Jordan Davis first. I

2523
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Speaker 3: think that's the way should go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I'm one of these challenged music people.

2525
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:31,680
Speaker 2: I just don't know particulars and names and and the

2526
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Speaker 2: whole thing. So i'd like live why I'm so interested

2527
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Speaker 2: in when you tell stories, I'm like fascinated by the world, right,

2528
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 2: Like it's it's it's really interesting because I'm not at

2529
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Speaker 2: all versed in it. So it's cool. But to get

2530
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Speaker 2: back to it real quick, Kevin is one of the

2531
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Speaker 2: great guys. Like I love him. We are from the

2532
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Speaker 2: same place and we've he's connected, we've been friends for

2533
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:05,400
Speaker 2: a long time and he does such a great job

2534
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:09,640
Speaker 2: at ESPN, and it's not surprising that you two would

2535
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Speaker 2: be buddies.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's like, they're One of the really encouraging things

2537
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:18,240
Speaker 3: to me about this business is how welcoming most people

2538
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Speaker 3: have been to Hey, here's my journey, here's my process,

2539
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:23,440
Speaker 3: and here's that help. The music business isn't always that way.

2540
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Speaker 3: Kevin's a big, a big reason why I feel that way,

2541
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Speaker 3: because certainly he set the standard for everybody.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, great stuff. All right. So we've been debating

2543
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 2: this and this is kind of a fun stuff here

2544
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:39,800
Speaker 2: where we're looking at how many coaches will get fired.

2545
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 2: We're trying to find six, right, because uh, well you

2546
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:47,160
Speaker 2: have the under and figure's got the over y So

2547
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Speaker 2: we're trying to find six. We got three, we got

2548
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Speaker 2: two Maybies, Brian Dabel. Does Dabel survive in New York?

2549
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Speaker 3: I So if you'd ask me before the offseason hard Knocks,

2550
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:05,080
Speaker 3: I would have said absolutely not. The more I watch

2551
02:08:05,600 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 3: Joe Shane be Joe Shane, the more I think the

2552
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,800
Speaker 3: GM goes and Dable gets another run at it. So

2553
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:15,920
Speaker 3: I think he survives. But that's only because I feel

2554
02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 3: like the organization has just shown their glaring and competence

2555
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:21,760
Speaker 3: over the course of the last month. So with that

2556
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Speaker 3: being said, I think coach stays. GM goes. But you

2557
02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 3: could talk me into putting Dable on the list.

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Speaker 5: No, I actually tend to agree with you.

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Speaker 4: If anything, I would say, he goes to Doug maroon

2560
02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:33,760
Speaker 4: route and just to say, you know what, I'll resign,

2561
02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:35,000
Speaker 4: give it to somebody.

2562
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 2: Else, something I don't want to call back.

2563
02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:39,200
Speaker 5: I think that might be more likely than he gets fired.

2564
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:41,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's more likely that they make

2565
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:43,320
Speaker 4: our front office shakeup, but they keep day Ball in,

2566
02:08:43,400 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 4: So I don't think he should be as high on

2567
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:47,080
Speaker 4: the list of being on the hot seat.

2568
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:51,240
Speaker 2: So well, we'll put him as maybe as a as

2569
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:53,640
Speaker 2: a possible change, right like we'll put him as a

2570
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:57,800
Speaker 2: pause as a possible change. Okay, I don't know why

2571
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:02,560
Speaker 2: Antonio Pears is ten to one. That's ridiculous. No, Kevin

2572
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,920
Speaker 2: Stefanski Cleveland, He's not going anywhere.

2573
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:09,520
Speaker 3: I would highly doubt it, rock solid because like Cleveland,

2574
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 3: the ones that's that's just a stupid Cleveland knows that

2575
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 3: they've hamstrung their quarterback situation and by the way, not nothing.

2576
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 3: The Browns won a lot of games last year with

2577
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:20,760
Speaker 3: guys we'd never really love that.

2578
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:25,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, I know Kevin uh and uh. I love him.

2579
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:31,400
Speaker 2: I think he's really bright, a really good coach. And

2580
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:36,760
Speaker 2: if Cleveland can't play, if Cleveland is a problem, then

2581
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 2: I think it's beclose to Sean Watson just is done.

2582
02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 4: I agree it would have little to do with Stefanski

2583
02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 4: or his ability as a coach because we saw I

2584
02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:49,360
Speaker 4: think we saw what he could do last year with

2585
02:09:49,400 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 4: all the quarterback issues, getting flak of off the couch

2586
02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:55,080
Speaker 4: and still you know, still playing as well as they played.

2587
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:59,080
Speaker 4: So I I have very little I should say, I

2588
02:09:59,080 --> 02:10:00,520
Speaker 4: have a lot of confidence that he will not be

2589
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:01,920
Speaker 4: on this list of coaches there should be on the

2590
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 4: hot seat.

2591
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:07,880
Speaker 2: I think he sticks it out. Todd Bowles, Nah, he's safe.

2592
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 2: I think he's okay too. Yeah, I don't know what

2593
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:13,560
Speaker 2: your expectations are if you're Tampa. Like I put, he

2594
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:14,720
Speaker 2: overachieved last year.

2595
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:16,720
Speaker 4: See, and I think he's that he'll ride off of

2596
02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:20,080
Speaker 4: last season regardless of what happens this year. Now granted

2597
02:10:20,120 --> 02:10:22,360
Speaker 4: they can't win two games, but you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

2598
02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:24,800
Speaker 4: if they're if they're middling around five hundred, again, I

2599
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:30,960
Speaker 4: think he stays another year. Kevin O'Connell, Oh, he's he's

2600
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 4: stone cold safe.

2601
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2602
02:10:32,720 --> 02:10:34,800
Speaker 3: Not only is he safe, he's brilliant. Shouldn't even be

2603
02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 3: on the list.

2604
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 2: But I dude, I I completely agree with you. I'm

2605
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:41,640
Speaker 2: just going through there. This is this is the odds.

2606
02:10:42,680 --> 02:10:48,160
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, Now, now here's the thing. I'm a big

2607
02:10:48,200 --> 02:10:51,040
Speaker 2: Sean guy. I love Sean, but could I see him

2608
02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:54,760
Speaker 2: being on the hot seat Definitely only because of you know,

2609
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:59,400
Speaker 2: just like Andy Reid in Philadelphia when you're when you're

2610
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 2: real good, but don't get over the hump and the

2611
02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 2: people get frustrated every year, Yeah you know they're not.

2612
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,160
Speaker 2: It goes back to what you were talking about earlier, Fitzie,

2613
02:11:09,560 --> 02:11:12,800
Speaker 2: about you know, people getting tired of eleven and twelve wins.

2614
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could. I understand that logic. I just have

2615
02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:22,360
Speaker 3: a hard time piecing together how the Bills would become

2616
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 3: bad enough that it's like, look, they've had one thing

2617
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 3: they can't get past. That's Kansas City. We all know that, right,

2618
02:11:28,080 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 3: So the Chiefs thing is is real. But I think

2619
02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:33,800
Speaker 3: if you look back, even at the history, you can't

2620
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:36,480
Speaker 3: tell me that the Chargers on some level didn't regret

2621
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:39,080
Speaker 3: letting Marty Schottenheimer go just because they couldn't seem to

2622
02:11:39,080 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 3: figure out a way to get over the hump. I

2623
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:44,040
Speaker 3: don't think the Bills organizationally make that same mistake. Plus,

2624
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 3: right now, they have one of the toughest things to

2625
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:49,000
Speaker 3: have in the NFL. They have some level of continuity,

2626
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:51,160
Speaker 3: a coach at quarterback at all these spots, and you're

2627
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:54,280
Speaker 3: talking about a new, you know, multi billion dollar stadium

2628
02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:56,160
Speaker 3: going in. It just doesn't feel like this is the

2629
02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 3: time to shake up what the Bills are doing. I

2630
02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 3: just can't find a path that leads to McDermott actually gone.

2631
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:05,400
Speaker 3: I could see where if things go haywire, maybe next

2632
02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:08,000
Speaker 3: year we're having little conversations, But I just don't think

2633
02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 3: anything could happen this year they would make that actually

2634
02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 3: get executed.

2635
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tend to agree.

2636
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:17,440
Speaker 4: And to your guys' point, this just gets to a

2637
02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 4: point where you win ten, eleven, twelve games every year

2638
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 4: and you get knocked out in the division around every year,

2639
02:12:21,800 --> 02:12:24,360
Speaker 4: and people get frustrated and you say, well, we got

2640
02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:26,240
Speaker 4: to make something, we got to change something, which I've

2641
02:12:26,280 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 4: never been a big proponent of. You don't think you

2642
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:30,240
Speaker 4: just make change for the sake of making change unless

2643
02:12:30,280 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 4: you think there's a solution out there. So I don't

2644
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:35,120
Speaker 4: think he should be on the hot seat, but I

2645
02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:37,360
Speaker 4: can actually see a path where he potentially gets the

2646
02:12:37,400 --> 02:12:40,000
Speaker 4: acts just because they end up listening to the fans

2647
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:43,480
Speaker 4: or the front offenses of getting frustrated or ownership. So

2648
02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:45,200
Speaker 4: I don't think, I don't think it will happen, but

2649
02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:46,520
Speaker 4: I do think it's a possibility.

2650
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally. It shouldn't happen. Yeah, through no fault

2651
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:56,160
Speaker 2: of McDermott. I think McDonough's great. It's just again, you know,

2652
02:12:56,240 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 2: that's just the very real thing is you don't achieve

2653
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:04,680
Speaker 2: a certain level every year, and like you know, I

2654
02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:06,400
Speaker 2: get it with Kansas City, and I'm with you, But

2655
02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:10,080
Speaker 2: they also lost to Cincinnati at home, right, like, now

2656
02:13:10,120 --> 02:13:13,240
Speaker 2: it's a bad loss. You know, there's that sort of

2657
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 2: stuff that people just get that fatigue.

2658
02:13:17,600 --> 02:13:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the idea that you maybe may have hit a

2659
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:24,600
Speaker 4: ceiling with a certain coach, whether it's warranted or not.

2660
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:30,280
Speaker 3: That like everybody gets into a we got to hit

2661
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:32,520
Speaker 3: the next level. So if your team is winning three

2662
02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:34,840
Speaker 3: games a year, then all you want when you bring

2663
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:37,480
Speaker 3: in a new organization, new people running it is to

2664
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:39,320
Speaker 3: get to that spot where you're six or seven wins

2665
02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:40,920
Speaker 3: and your competitive. And then you get to six or

2666
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:42,360
Speaker 3: seven wins, you're like, well, now we got to get

2667
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:44,160
Speaker 3: to ten or eleven and win the division. Then you

2668
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:45,680
Speaker 3: get to ten or eleven and it's like, well, why

2669
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:48,720
Speaker 3: are we not winning playoff games? And you know, you

2670
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:51,120
Speaker 3: go through this process where you normalize success to a

2671
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:54,680
Speaker 3: spot where you feel like you deserve more no matter

2672
02:13:54,720 --> 02:13:56,800
Speaker 3: what you have, unless you're Kansas City. And the problem

2673
02:13:56,840 --> 02:13:58,640
Speaker 3: with that is you forget what it was like to

2674
02:13:58,640 --> 02:14:02,040
Speaker 3: win three games. And so you know, the cautionary tale

2675
02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 3: here is you turn around and fire somebody like McDermott.

2676
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:07,600
Speaker 3: You could be starting over at such a level, then

2677
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:09,160
Speaker 3: all of a sudden. You have no idea if the

2678
02:14:09,160 --> 02:14:10,600
Speaker 3: next tire is going to be any good? Is the

2679
02:14:10,600 --> 02:14:12,800
Speaker 3: next hire going to be you know, a beacon of

2680
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:13,880
Speaker 3: light and dark? Dark world?

2681
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:14,080
Speaker 2: Are you?

2682
02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:15,080
Speaker 3: Basically I agree with.

2683
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:19,840
Speaker 2: That Again, I'm about stability. Like to me, I think

2684
02:14:20,560 --> 02:14:28,520
Speaker 2: stable franchises. Are you need coaching? That school you find

2685
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:32,240
Speaker 2: a good coach, you got to ride with him. I mean,

2686
02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 2: look at Cowar, you know, Pittsburgh row with him thirteen

2687
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:39,120
Speaker 2: years and then finally paid off for you, right, Like

2688
02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:43,600
Speaker 2: I was one of the few people, not partly and

2689
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:47,520
Speaker 2: partly because of my relationship, but I because I saw

2690
02:14:47,560 --> 02:14:50,800
Speaker 2: how good a coach he was. But I didn't think

2691
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:54,800
Speaker 2: Amy Reid had to have a new change of scenery.

2692
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:57,280
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, you got a good coach, Like what

2693
02:14:57,920 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 2: do you what do you want? Like you don't know

2694
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:01,560
Speaker 2: if you're going to get it, what you're going to get?

2695
02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:05,040
Speaker 2: And they went and the Eagles fired Andy Reid and they

2696
02:15:05,240 --> 02:15:08,440
Speaker 2: hired some shiny new toy in chip Kelly, and it

2697
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:12,400
Speaker 2: was a disaster. They probably win because it's they get

2698
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:15,920
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson, who was an Andy re protege who you know,

2699
02:15:16,080 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 2: kind of let them get to the super Bowl. And

2700
02:15:18,040 --> 02:15:20,520
Speaker 2: then he was outing gear and now we're already talking

2701
02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 2: about Yeah, you know, seriality, be it out.

2702
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:25,959
Speaker 4: I think it's sad, boy, it's a sad reality nowadays

2703
02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:29,959
Speaker 4: that people just don't have the patience anymore. The idea nobody.

2704
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,440
Speaker 4: I don't think it is going to have thirteen straight seasons.

2705
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:34,080
Speaker 4: And if you're if you're not knocking on the door

2706
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:36,400
Speaker 4: of a championship. And granted they got to a Super

2707
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:39,200
Speaker 4: Bowl and lost to Dallas, but with Billkwer, but you know,

2708
02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:41,360
Speaker 4: if you're not winning championships, you know, in your first

2709
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:43,680
Speaker 4: five years or so, all of a sudden, that's when

2710
02:15:43,680 --> 02:15:45,400
Speaker 4: the noise starts creeping up. And I'm with you, guys,

2711
02:15:45,440 --> 02:15:48,000
Speaker 4: I'm all for stability, giving guys chances to stick it out.

2712
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:50,080
Speaker 5: I loved what Cincinnati did with Marvin Lewis.

2713
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:51,520
Speaker 4: They couldn't get out of the first round, but they

2714
02:15:51,560 --> 02:15:54,160
Speaker 4: stuck with that guy for thirteen, fourteen years whatever it was,

2715
02:15:54,400 --> 02:15:56,160
Speaker 4: and kept the program in place because he took a

2716
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 4: franchise that was horrible. To use your example fits a

2717
02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:01,400
Speaker 4: team that was winning three, four or five games a

2718
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 4: year to winning nine, ten, eleven games a year. Now

2719
02:16:04,280 --> 02:16:06,720
Speaker 4: they couldn't win in the postseason. But consider where they

2720
02:16:06,760 --> 02:16:09,080
Speaker 4: came from to where he took them, and a lot

2721
02:16:09,080 --> 02:16:11,760
Speaker 4: of people often end up forgetting you know, forgetting that

2722
02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:13,880
Speaker 4: yeah you think.

2723
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:17,080
Speaker 3: Look, I'm the first to admit my own jaded fandom

2724
02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:20,760
Speaker 3: forms some of my opinions. It's just when you sit

2725
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:23,840
Speaker 3: through press conference after press conference after press conference and

2726
02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:25,960
Speaker 3: you get it wrong, and you have new coaches every

2727
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:28,160
Speaker 3: two years, you do wake up one day and you

2728
02:16:28,200 --> 02:16:31,560
Speaker 3: realize that man, like that level of just hey, we're competitive,

2729
02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:34,440
Speaker 3: but we're not epic, Like you never know where that

2730
02:16:34,480 --> 02:16:37,400
Speaker 3: can leads you, like, So it's just it's it's a

2731
02:16:37,440 --> 02:16:40,080
Speaker 3: cautionary tale when you've lived the life that I've lived

2732
02:16:40,120 --> 02:16:40,880
Speaker 3: as a Raiders fan.

2733
02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, because then all you know, you get into the postseason,

2734
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:45,560
Speaker 4: you just give yourself cracks at it and you never

2735
02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:47,440
Speaker 4: know when you might break through and something might break

2736
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:50,119
Speaker 4: your away and all of a sudden, you're the Cardinals

2737
02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:52,480
Speaker 4: and you're in the Super Bowl, or you're the Jaguars

2738
02:16:52,520 --> 02:16:54,200
Speaker 4: and you're a half away from beating New England and

2739
02:16:54,240 --> 02:16:56,959
Speaker 4: going to the Super Bowl. You know, like those things

2740
02:16:57,040 --> 02:16:59,320
Speaker 4: can happen, but you have to give yourself the opportunity

2741
02:16:59,360 --> 02:17:00,800
Speaker 4: to even get to that point.

2742
02:17:01,320 --> 02:17:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm so with you guys. Dave Dombrowski is the Phillies GM.

2743
02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:08,280
Speaker 2: I had the same conversation with him where like and

2744
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:11,240
Speaker 2: you know the variants. As good as you can be

2745
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:15,120
Speaker 2: in baseball, you just don't know in October if you

2746
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 2: have a bad week, right, it's all you know, you

2747
02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:22,280
Speaker 2: could be your bats could go funky because you were

2748
02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:25,560
Speaker 2: off right. You look at the Braves the last two years.

2749
02:17:25,560 --> 02:17:28,040
Speaker 2: They were the best team in the National League and

2750
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 2: they lost to the Phillies both years.

2751
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:32,400
Speaker 4: Hell, look at the Dodgers the last ten to eleven years. Oh,

2752
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:35,400
Speaker 4: the greatest example, a perfect example.

2753
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:40,039
Speaker 2: So the point is that you know, any freak thing

2754
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:43,000
Speaker 2: can happen during the playoffs. But if you got a

2755
02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:46,279
Speaker 2: team that you know, and really importantly for the NFL,

2756
02:17:46,800 --> 02:17:50,200
Speaker 2: a coach that you know is competent, that is above that.

2757
02:17:50,400 --> 02:17:52,760
Speaker 2: Because you look at this league and I have the

2758
02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:55,280
Speaker 2: list of coaches in front of me, you could tell

2759
02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:59,440
Speaker 2: or off the bet you go and we could play

2760
02:17:59,480 --> 02:18:02,279
Speaker 2: the act. We could have to do the exercise, which

2761
02:18:02,320 --> 02:18:06,640
Speaker 2: is a smart guy dumb guy basically, right, I mean

2762
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:11,520
Speaker 2: competent incompetent, like you know who's competent, Like you know

2763
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:15,240
Speaker 2: who's who's got a really good chance, and if you

2764
02:18:15,320 --> 02:18:17,840
Speaker 2: have an above average coach, like I believe in Harball,

2765
02:18:18,120 --> 02:18:22,720
Speaker 2: Like I think Jim Harball is a great coach and

2766
02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:29,360
Speaker 2: undoubtedly will turn around the Chargers, right Like I just

2767
02:18:29,480 --> 02:18:32,920
Speaker 2: believe in Jim Harborough. So like, no matter what happens,

2768
02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:37,240
Speaker 2: I'm with Jim, I ride with Jim Harball, no matter what.

2769
02:18:37,640 --> 02:18:41,200
Speaker 2: Like he could go you know, eleven and five the

2770
02:18:41,240 --> 02:18:44,600
Speaker 2: next five years and not with the Super Bowl, and

2771
02:18:44,680 --> 02:18:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go number six, number seven. I just believe

2772
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:51,959
Speaker 2: in him that sooner or later he'll get the job done,

2773
02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:55,240
Speaker 2: that he'll can turn you around. Now, not everybody on

2774
02:18:55,280 --> 02:19:02,720
Speaker 2: this list is like that. So now at three uh,

2775
02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:06,560
Speaker 2: clearly on the hot seat and three not or three

2776
02:19:06,840 --> 02:19:08,439
Speaker 2: uh possibles.

2777
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:12,120
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor, No, I wouldn't think so.

2778
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:17,959
Speaker 2: You guys were when we talked about the Cowboys Bengals game, Fitzy,

2779
02:19:18,080 --> 02:19:19,039
Speaker 2: you were a little.

2780
02:19:19,360 --> 02:19:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, No, I think the Bengals still have

2781
02:19:22,160 --> 02:19:24,959
Speaker 3: a little bit of work to do, uh, especially like

2782
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:27,360
Speaker 3: I said, I'm curious about their offensive line. I'm curious

2783
02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:29,840
Speaker 3: about whether their defense takes a step forward, But I'm

2784
02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:31,640
Speaker 3: not curious about the direction of the franchise.

2785
02:19:31,720 --> 02:19:34,959
Speaker 2: Like well, I love the coach, so I would agree

2786
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:35,200
Speaker 2: with you.

2787
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:37,000
Speaker 4: But and Mike Brown is one of the more patient

2788
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:39,480
Speaker 4: owners unless things totally fall off of a cliff, I

2789
02:19:39,480 --> 02:19:41,480
Speaker 4: don't see him paying a coach not to be there,

2790
02:19:41,640 --> 02:19:43,680
Speaker 4: So all right.

2791
02:19:44,840 --> 02:19:47,240
Speaker 3: I say cheap, Yeah, you know what, you know, well.

2792
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:51,039
Speaker 2: Whatever works real quick, which, uh, these are the only

2793
02:19:51,080 --> 02:19:56,720
Speaker 2: other possibilities. Mike McDaniel, I can't imagine Mike Tomlin. Same thing.

2794
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:00,360
Speaker 2: Sean McVay. I don't even know what ridiculous sending even

2795
02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:03,680
Speaker 2: me on the list stupid, but this is one that

2796
02:20:03,920 --> 02:20:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, Wow, Doug Peterson twenty five to one.

2797
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:11,760
Speaker 4: Now, the fact that Tomlin and McVeigh are ahead of

2798
02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:13,039
Speaker 4: him is interesting to me.

2799
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:17,000
Speaker 3: I just think that the presumption is that Jacksonville doesn't

2800
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:20,080
Speaker 3: really like that's a market where you're sort of invisible

2801
02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:22,760
Speaker 3: for a long time, you know, like you just it does.

2802
02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:27,320
Speaker 3: Reasonable success or failure is not judged the same way

2803
02:20:27,320 --> 02:20:29,120
Speaker 3: in Jacksonville that it would be in Philadelphia.

2804
02:20:31,680 --> 02:20:37,080
Speaker 2: If Trevor Lawrence does not right himself, I mean, I

2805
02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:38,760
Speaker 2: think you have to move on.

2806
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:42,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Ley, I love Doug, Like.

2807
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:46,720
Speaker 2: Doug won the Super Bowl, right, so, like you know,

2808
02:20:46,840 --> 02:20:51,039
Speaker 2: my inner fan Eagles fan, you know, since I'm a

2809
02:20:51,040 --> 02:20:55,800
Speaker 2: little boy at all that close and nothing. Doug Peterson

2810
02:20:55,840 --> 02:20:57,760
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl, So I have a porter's a

2811
02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:00,680
Speaker 2: part of me that will always be indebted to Doug.

2812
02:21:00,840 --> 02:21:04,160
Speaker 2: But if I'm looking at objectively, whether it's his full

2813
02:21:04,280 --> 02:21:08,240
Speaker 2: or not. If if Trevor Lawrence doesn't take enough step

2814
02:21:08,520 --> 02:21:12,000
Speaker 2: right now, Trevor Lawrence has been a disappointment, and if

2815
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:14,800
Speaker 2: he doesn't play well this year, I gotta find somebody

2816
02:21:14,840 --> 02:21:15,520
Speaker 2: who can reach him.

2817
02:21:17,680 --> 02:21:21,480
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I just don't think. I think

2818
02:21:21,520 --> 02:21:24,520
Speaker 3: the Coln family is going to be patient and find

2819
02:21:24,560 --> 02:21:26,359
Speaker 3: other solutions.

2820
02:21:27,480 --> 02:21:30,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one of those kind of similar to Dallas,

2821
02:21:30,320 --> 02:21:32,640
Speaker 4: where maybe they should consider it, but I don't think

2822
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:35,320
Speaker 4: that they will. So if they look, if they're hovering

2823
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:37,120
Speaker 4: around five hundred again, which is what they've been the

2824
02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:40,760
Speaker 4: last two seasons, I think they probably hold on and

2825
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:41,800
Speaker 4: stick and stick with it.

2826
02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:43,840
Speaker 11: Right.

2827
02:21:44,520 --> 02:21:48,519
Speaker 2: So there you have it. So you got three possibilities.

2828
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:53,840
Speaker 2: So right now as we speak, it appears that Fitzi's

2829
02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:55,040
Speaker 2: under looks good.

2830
02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:55,520
Speaker 3: Bah.

2831
02:21:57,000 --> 02:22:01,720
Speaker 2: There's three possibilities, three kind of likely ones, and there's

2832
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:04,800
Speaker 2: four to five on the fence.

2833
02:22:04,840 --> 02:22:07,560
Speaker 4: One so you know, the caveat I'll put on Jacksonville

2834
02:22:07,680 --> 02:22:12,640
Speaker 4: is if Trevor Lawrence underperforms severely like or like you know,

2835
02:22:12,680 --> 02:22:16,400
Speaker 4: really doesn't have a good year, usually somebody's gonna get it,

2836
02:22:16,440 --> 02:22:17,920
Speaker 4: and it's not gonna be the guy they just gave

2837
02:22:17,959 --> 02:22:21,360
Speaker 4: a two hundred plus million dollar contract too, So I.

2838
02:22:21,320 --> 02:22:22,039
Speaker 5: Will go with that.

2839
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:24,360
Speaker 4: If it really falls off the cliff and they're not

2840
02:22:24,480 --> 02:22:26,320
Speaker 4: nine to eight and they end up winning five games

2841
02:22:26,400 --> 02:22:29,920
Speaker 4: or six games, Doug, that opens up the possibility of

2842
02:22:29,920 --> 02:22:31,160
Speaker 4: Doug possibly being let go.

2843
02:22:32,800 --> 02:22:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there's a pressure on Lawrence to look good, right.

2844
02:22:37,280 --> 02:22:39,360
Speaker 4: And if he doesn't look good, it's not gonna fall

2845
02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:42,120
Speaker 4: on him. That's the thing. He's not going anywhere.

2846
02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:46,000
Speaker 2: No, that's my premise. Yeah, that's exactly my premise, which

2847
02:22:46,040 --> 02:22:49,680
Speaker 2: is they're never gonna look at They'll exhaust their situation

2848
02:22:49,800 --> 02:22:52,920
Speaker 2: to find someone that could reach the kid right to

2849
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:55,000
Speaker 2: kind of get the best out of him, right, and

2850
02:22:55,000 --> 02:22:55,440
Speaker 2: that's it.

2851
02:22:55,480 --> 02:22:57,600
Speaker 5: So from that standpoint, yeah, I'm with you, You're.

2852
02:22:57,480 --> 02:23:01,840
Speaker 2: Right, yep, all right, let's quick too, will come right back.

2853
02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:06,680
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2854
02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:08,720
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2855
02:23:11,640 --> 02:23:14,520
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2856
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2858
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Speaker 7: a mental wealth podcast, and every week we will have

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2861
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2862
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2863
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2864
02:23:43,440 --> 02:23:44,920
Speaker 10: Ed Milett or John Gordon.

2865
02:23:44,920 --> 02:23:47,600
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2866
02:23:47,640 --> 02:23:48,080
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2867
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2868
02:23:49,879 --> 02:23:53,520
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2869
02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:58,720
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2870
02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:14,160
Speaker 2: Fellas hanging out, you know, pretty soon we're gonna be

2871
02:24:14,320 --> 02:24:19,600
Speaker 2: uh through this little dead period and then it's on

2872
02:24:19,800 --> 02:24:27,520
Speaker 2: my brother my brothers, it'll be on. We're close. I

2873
02:24:27,600 --> 02:24:30,920
Speaker 2: always look at it like and figure, you're my witness, right.

2874
02:24:30,920 --> 02:24:34,760
Speaker 2: We always look at the summer really as just a

2875
02:24:34,760 --> 02:24:40,320
Speaker 2: as a as a long. It's almost like a trek

2876
02:24:40,920 --> 02:24:44,520
Speaker 2: through the Sahara to get to meaningful sports.

2877
02:24:44,600 --> 02:24:47,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're trudging through grinding your feet through the sand,

2878
02:24:48,440 --> 02:24:52,520
Speaker 4: you know, very very very very very slowly.

2879
02:24:54,160 --> 02:24:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, but it's but we're making on the horizon.

2880
02:24:58,040 --> 02:25:03,920
Speaker 5: No, the pads are on, however, briefly, very briefly.

2881
02:25:04,080 --> 02:25:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very briefly.

2882
02:25:07,040 --> 02:25:08,680
Speaker 4: But we're just a couple of weeks away from the

2883
02:25:08,680 --> 02:25:11,599
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame game, I know, how about that?

2884
02:25:11,920 --> 02:25:13,680
Speaker 3: Nothing though, we do have like we have the w

2885
02:25:13,920 --> 02:25:17,280
Speaker 3: NBA All Star Weekend this weekend, and then we have

2886
02:25:17,360 --> 02:25:19,640
Speaker 3: the Olympics right around the corner. That's gonna help with

2887
02:25:19,680 --> 02:25:20,879
Speaker 3: some of this too, so you know.

2888
02:25:20,879 --> 02:25:22,800
Speaker 4: Well, so not to harp on that, but since you

2889
02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:25,600
Speaker 4: brought that up, fits this is weird to me. So

2890
02:25:25,840 --> 02:25:29,240
Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark, obviously one of the young faces of the league,

2891
02:25:29,280 --> 02:25:30,680
Speaker 4: all that she's going to be in the All Star

2892
02:25:30,720 --> 02:25:34,880
Speaker 4: Game playing against Team USA. Why is she not participating

2893
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:37,120
Speaker 4: in the skills competition in the three point contest on

2894
02:25:37,400 --> 02:25:37,680
Speaker 4: your night?

2895
02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:39,840
Speaker 2: How does it make any sense?

2896
02:25:40,720 --> 02:25:42,880
Speaker 4: And initially people are like they were ripping the w

2897
02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:44,760
Speaker 4: NBA for saying, how could you not invite her? And

2898
02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:47,360
Speaker 4: the WNBA said, oh, no, we did invite her. She

2899
02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:50,960
Speaker 4: said no, how do you say no? You can't say no?

2900
02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:53,120
Speaker 4: How do you knock it to you to ride this

2901
02:25:53,240 --> 02:25:55,680
Speaker 4: wave of what the w NBA is and has become.

2902
02:25:55,720 --> 02:25:58,560
Speaker 4: We talked about the TV contract in a previous hour

2903
02:25:58,640 --> 02:26:01,720
Speaker 4: of the show. I mean, you have to you have

2904
02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:04,640
Speaker 4: to recognize sometimes this stuff is bigger than you, even

2905
02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:06,800
Speaker 4: if you don't perform well, you're you're the young face

2906
02:26:06,840 --> 02:26:07,240
Speaker 4: of the league.

2907
02:26:07,240 --> 02:26:08,000
Speaker 5: You have to participate.

2908
02:26:08,080 --> 02:26:09,920
Speaker 2: By the way, she should have been on the team too, like,

2909
02:26:10,000 --> 02:26:10,280
Speaker 2: you know.

2910
02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:12,160
Speaker 4: Sure if you want to, and whether or not she

2911
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:13,960
Speaker 4: would have quote unquote earned it if she's not one

2912
02:26:13,959 --> 02:26:16,400
Speaker 4: of the top twelve fourteen players best and it doesn't

2913
02:26:16,440 --> 02:26:18,560
Speaker 4: really matter, especially when you were a sport like that.

2914
02:26:18,879 --> 02:26:20,160
Speaker 5: You need as much exposure as.

2915
02:26:20,120 --> 02:26:24,080
Speaker 2: You and you knew she was arcing. You know, yeah,

2916
02:26:24,120 --> 02:26:25,000
Speaker 2: she was arcing to that.

2917
02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:26,920
Speaker 4: And by the way, if she's not one of the

2918
02:26:26,959 --> 02:26:29,520
Speaker 4: twelve best players, does the twelve player play that much?

2919
02:26:29,560 --> 02:26:29,959
Speaker 10: Anyway?

2920
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:33,720
Speaker 4: The women have not lost a game an international competition

2921
02:26:33,760 --> 02:26:34,760
Speaker 4: in like twenty years.

2922
02:26:35,040 --> 02:26:38,240
Speaker 3: L that's a slippery slope, y'all. Like the only thing

2923
02:26:38,280 --> 02:26:41,160
Speaker 3: I'll say is, like the standard is the standard. Like, look,

2924
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:44,960
Speaker 3: Livy Dunn is the most followed women's college athlete anywhere,

2925
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:46,880
Speaker 3: and she's you know, gymnast, but we don't put her

2926
02:26:46,879 --> 02:26:49,199
Speaker 3: on the Olympic team just because she has a huge following.

2927
02:26:49,280 --> 02:26:50,560
Speaker 3: It would be good for the Olympics.

2928
02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:54,320
Speaker 2: But the girl, I mean, but the girl could I mean,

2929
02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:58,000
Speaker 2: look what she's done, right, Like you know, you know

2930
02:26:58,280 --> 02:27:00,640
Speaker 2: you should have had to force like to see which

2931
02:27:00,680 --> 02:27:03,360
Speaker 2: you could have been Like, if you are that good

2932
02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:06,800
Speaker 2: of of evaluators, then you look at this kid's game,

2933
02:27:06,920 --> 02:27:09,440
Speaker 2: you go, well, she's gonna she's going to be a

2934
02:27:09,440 --> 02:27:11,040
Speaker 2: great player, like you can say it.

2935
02:27:11,120 --> 02:27:13,800
Speaker 4: I don't pretend to know that much about gymnastics, obviously,

2936
02:27:13,840 --> 02:27:15,560
Speaker 4: know who Livey Dunn is. But if she was that great,

2937
02:27:15,560 --> 02:27:17,280
Speaker 4: people would have been talking to She's not even in

2938
02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:19,480
Speaker 4: the conversation of being on the Olympic team, you know.

2939
02:27:19,760 --> 02:27:21,200
Speaker 5: So there's a little bit of a difference there.

2940
02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we got that.

2941
02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:24,120
Speaker 3: Go ahead real quick.

2942
02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:26,240
Speaker 2: We'll we'll take well, we'll pause and we'll come back

2943
02:27:26,280 --> 02:27:31,240
Speaker 2: on that. Because joining us says he does every time

2944
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:36,240
Speaker 2: during this period, he is the brain, our buddy, the brain.

2945
02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:39,400
Speaker 2: Brad Feinberg, Bradley, good.

2946
02:27:39,160 --> 02:27:41,960
Speaker 11: Morning, Good morning, Nantha. I gotta tell you, man, you

2947
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:45,720
Speaker 11: can get me started on the Caitlin Clark thing. I

2948
02:27:45,760 --> 02:27:48,800
Speaker 11: would I'd be able to fit. See, I viciously disagree

2949
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:52,000
Speaker 11: with you. I could talk about that for a long time.

2950
02:27:52,600 --> 02:27:54,360
Speaker 11: I think the fact that they didn't choose her for

2951
02:27:54,400 --> 02:27:57,360
Speaker 11: the Olympic team it's all about politics. I mean, that

2952
02:27:57,520 --> 02:27:59,840
Speaker 11: was the definition of you know twenty. I'd be like

2953
02:28:00,320 --> 02:28:03,720
Speaker 11: Woods when he was dominating, just not being chosen to

2954
02:28:03,760 --> 02:28:05,480
Speaker 11: be one of the to make the Ryder Cup team

2955
02:28:05,480 --> 02:28:09,160
Speaker 11: because of jealousy. And I would serve these girls up

2956
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:11,320
Speaker 11: and this w and be up a bunch of peanut

2957
02:28:11,360 --> 02:28:13,760
Speaker 11: butter for all the jealousy they have, because it is

2958
02:28:13,959 --> 02:28:16,400
Speaker 11: it is. It's not even like an opinion. It's like,

2959
02:28:16,879 --> 02:28:20,360
Speaker 11: here's a person who's coming change the value of your

2960
02:28:20,520 --> 02:28:24,600
Speaker 11: entire sport. Has meant more to your sport than anyone here.

2961
02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:27,480
Speaker 11: And you basically said, you know what, you know, I

2962
02:28:27,560 --> 02:28:31,280
Speaker 11: don't like her because she's too popular, and I mean,

2963
02:28:31,920 --> 02:28:34,480
Speaker 11: and by the way, she's great, she's a great player,

2964
02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:36,480
Speaker 11: and anything that she said, I mean, she's not good.

2965
02:28:36,520 --> 02:28:39,959
Speaker 11: She's great. And it's just I still can't understand the

2966
02:28:40,000 --> 02:28:42,720
Speaker 11: whole w NBA thing about how you you go you

2967
02:28:42,760 --> 02:28:45,840
Speaker 11: attack the person who's the most popular person on your league.

2968
02:28:46,280 --> 02:28:46,840
Speaker 11: I don't get it.

2969
02:28:46,879 --> 02:28:49,080
Speaker 3: So that's that's two different things, though, I'll say this,

2970
02:28:49,240 --> 02:28:51,160
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think that it makes sense for

2971
02:28:51,200 --> 02:28:53,600
Speaker 3: the W to be attacking Caitlin Clark at all. But

2972
02:28:53,680 --> 02:28:56,320
Speaker 3: for the Women's Basketball Committee to make the decision, they

2973
02:28:56,360 --> 02:28:58,039
Speaker 3: got to make the decision based on who they think

2974
02:28:58,040 --> 02:29:00,280
Speaker 3: the best are for international play. You got to a

2975
02:29:00,320 --> 02:29:02,480
Speaker 3: woman that just came out of college that was adjusting

2976
02:29:02,520 --> 02:29:04,920
Speaker 3: to the W that at the same time they got

2977
02:29:04,920 --> 02:29:06,840
Speaker 3: to look at it international play and say, hey, does

2978
02:29:06,879 --> 02:29:08,720
Speaker 3: she have the experience? Isn't too much to put on

2979
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:11,320
Speaker 3: her right now? Like all of those other portions of

2980
02:29:11,360 --> 02:29:14,039
Speaker 3: the conversation, Like, I do think that there's some nuance

2981
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:15,920
Speaker 3: to the basketball side of it for the for the

2982
02:29:15,959 --> 02:29:19,480
Speaker 3: women's basketball team. I understand she is playing great right now,

2983
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Speaker 3: but I also don't think it's the worse for Caitlin

2984
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:25,560
Speaker 3: Clark to not have to deal with the adjustment to

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02:29:25,600 --> 02:29:28,160
Speaker 3: the W and the adjustment to the international game. That

2986
02:29:28,280 --> 02:29:29,840
Speaker 3: being said, I do agree with you that I think

2987
02:29:29,840 --> 02:29:33,880
Speaker 3: it's absolutely asinine that so many players and so many

2988
02:29:33,959 --> 02:29:36,640
Speaker 3: voices around the W continue to attack somebody that is

2989
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:39,400
Speaker 3: absolutely right now taking the sport to a level that

2990
02:29:39,400 --> 02:29:41,080
Speaker 3: nobody ever would have imagined it could get to.

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02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:44,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, again, I one't think it might. I don't like

2992
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:47,720
Speaker 11: jealous people. That's one thing I don't listen. There's always

2993
02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:49,920
Speaker 11: gonna be someone better looking at more money than me,

2994
02:29:50,720 --> 02:29:52,680
Speaker 11: and I don't. I mean, I have more stuff and

2995
02:29:52,720 --> 02:29:55,720
Speaker 11: I don't care. I'm I'm not like I don't. I mean,

2996
02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:58,840
Speaker 11: I hate the haters, like I really don't like people

2997
02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:02,600
Speaker 11: who to put others down to prop themselves up. And

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02:30:02,640 --> 02:30:05,120
Speaker 11: I just I'm not a fan of that. And I

2999
02:30:05,320 --> 02:30:08,400
Speaker 11: and I was stunning, and call me naive. It is God,

3000
02:30:08,400 --> 02:30:10,760
Speaker 11: I wouldn't hope. I'm not naive, but call me naive.

3001
02:30:10,840 --> 02:30:13,039
Speaker 11: I thought that this would be like a celebration. We

3002
02:30:13,160 --> 02:30:15,280
Speaker 11: you know, we have a person, a player that the

3003
02:30:15,320 --> 02:30:18,400
Speaker 11: young people and people have generated Anthony. If I told you,

3004
02:30:18,400 --> 02:30:21,000
Speaker 11: and I told you that the w NBA would be

3005
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:23,240
Speaker 11: out drawing NBA Finals games, If I said that to

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Speaker 11: you before Caitlin Clark was was playing basketball at Iowa,

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02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:32,320
Speaker 11: you probably the odds on that wouldn't It would be

3008
02:30:32,360 --> 02:30:37,000
Speaker 11: like minus nine nine nine nine nine ninety nine for

3009
02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:41,680
Speaker 11: one that that never happens. And this woman changed everything.

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02:30:42,360 --> 02:30:45,080
Speaker 11: And I'm not you know, I'm not trying to eat

3011
02:30:45,160 --> 02:30:47,720
Speaker 11: to overstate it, but I don't think I didn't think

3012
02:30:47,720 --> 02:30:50,240
Speaker 11: it was possible what she was able to do, I

3013
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:53,959
Speaker 11: don't think was humanly possible. And uh, I just I

3014
02:30:54,080 --> 02:30:56,520
Speaker 11: just find it surprising that, you know, if that's the

3015
02:30:56,560 --> 02:30:59,200
Speaker 11: path that's gone down. But he said it is what

3016
02:30:59,280 --> 02:30:59,560
Speaker 11: it is.

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02:31:01,440 --> 02:31:05,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. Are you watching it?

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02:31:07,320 --> 02:31:09,760
Speaker 11: I will listen after I just said, I'm gonna come

3019
02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:13,560
Speaker 11: across the healer. I'm not a huge I've watched her.

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02:31:13,600 --> 02:31:17,200
Speaker 11: I mean I have watched her. Definitely contact watches when

3021
02:31:17,240 --> 02:31:19,880
Speaker 11: she plays to take that forward its work. I do

3022
02:31:19,879 --> 02:31:22,440
Speaker 11: don't love the women's game, but I do actually like

3023
02:31:22,520 --> 02:31:26,680
Speaker 11: watching her play. I like her style. So to speak

3024
02:31:26,920 --> 02:31:30,120
Speaker 11: to me, I love again to me, Anthony sit the Almo.

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02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:32,320
Speaker 11: If you would agree with me, she's like Steph Curry liked.

3026
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:34,879
Speaker 11: I mean in terms of the women's game like that,

3027
02:31:34,959 --> 02:31:37,520
Speaker 11: I would kind of compare her to that kind of

3028
02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:41,640
Speaker 11: player where she just has an amazing range on her shot.

3029
02:31:41,800 --> 02:31:45,200
Speaker 11: I mean, she'll pull up from thirty feet like it's nothing.

3030
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Speaker 3: By the way, she also she credits that to Steph.

3031
02:31:51,320 --> 02:31:56,520
Speaker 3: I interviewed her her freshman year and why she felt

3032
02:31:56,520 --> 02:31:58,280
Speaker 3: like she could shoot from anywhere, and she said, I

3033
02:31:58,280 --> 02:32:00,400
Speaker 3: grew up watching Steph and when you learn, like when

3034
02:32:00,400 --> 02:32:02,720
Speaker 3: you see that, you see that you're if you're open,

3035
02:32:02,879 --> 02:32:04,680
Speaker 3: take the shot. Doesn't matter where you are on the court.

3036
02:32:04,720 --> 02:32:06,960
Speaker 3: So it's funny that Steph is a Steph Curry is

3037
02:32:06,959 --> 02:32:09,120
Speaker 3: a huge part of why Caitlyn Clark is who she is,

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02:32:09,160 --> 02:32:10,680
Speaker 3: So it makes him a huge influence to the.

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Speaker 11: W Yeah, and I and I and I think that

3040
02:32:14,600 --> 02:32:18,200
Speaker 11: that's like something that you know, Steph. I think, listen, guys,

3041
02:32:18,200 --> 02:32:21,879
Speaker 11: I would think since Jordan's in in the NBA, the

3042
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:24,800
Speaker 11: two guys to me that I want to say influencer,

3043
02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:27,520
Speaker 11: not the best players, but the two players who I

3044
02:32:27,560 --> 02:32:30,959
Speaker 11: think culturally are just however you want to say, like

3045
02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:34,720
Speaker 11: kind of change the ratings, not people play basketball, watch basketball,

3046
02:32:34,760 --> 02:32:38,760
Speaker 11: Iverson and Steph Curry. Uh, since Jordan, you know, even

3047
02:32:38,760 --> 02:32:41,160
Speaker 11: more than Lebron. I'm not saying that, of course Lebron's better.

3048
02:32:41,360 --> 02:32:44,640
Speaker 11: Of course Lebron's better, but I feel like just people

3049
02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:49,080
Speaker 11: with Steph changed the way the game and Iverson just

3050
02:32:49,160 --> 02:32:53,440
Speaker 11: changed everything, like culturally just how he you know, you know,

3051
02:32:53,520 --> 02:32:56,280
Speaker 11: he just his attitude of everything. He was just an

3052
02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:59,000
Speaker 11: iconic player in that aspect in so many ways. But

3053
02:32:59,320 --> 02:33:02,680
Speaker 11: Caitlyn Clark to me. It's again. I I don't think

3054
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:05,760
Speaker 11: there's ever been an athlete that changed the trajectory of

3055
02:33:05,760 --> 02:33:08,800
Speaker 11: the sport Tiger Woods, I'll say, in golf. But I'm

3056
02:33:08,840 --> 02:33:11,240
Speaker 11: telling you, Caitlin Clark, and just think about this again.

3057
02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:13,320
Speaker 2: Guys, don't get me sorry, you mentioned Tiger Woods in

3058
02:33:13,400 --> 02:33:16,760
Speaker 2: the ESP had top one hundred athlete lists.

3059
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Speaker 11: That's the differ.

3060
02:33:17,879 --> 02:33:23,400
Speaker 2: How Tiger Woods, Anthony, that's just again that that's that's true.

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Speaker 11: I mean, Tiger Woods is Look again.

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Speaker 5: In my.

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02:33:29,160 --> 02:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Tiger and Brady, three of the greatest athletes that I've seen,

3064
02:33:33,879 --> 02:33:37,320
Speaker 2: and neither of the top three. I don't even understand that.

3065
02:33:37,959 --> 02:33:40,720
Speaker 11: Again we are, we are on the same page, Anthony,

3066
02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:43,680
Speaker 11: one hundred percent. As I said, I don't know how

3067
02:33:43,680 --> 02:33:47,920
Speaker 11: they derived or arrived at that at those lists. But yeah, again,

3068
02:33:47,959 --> 02:33:52,240
Speaker 11: Tiger Woods changed changed golf forever right now in my

3069
02:33:52,280 --> 02:33:55,119
Speaker 11: opinion at least, where golf has become that much more

3070
02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:58,160
Speaker 11: of a popular sport. And in Tiger's dominance and his

3071
02:33:58,280 --> 02:34:01,200
Speaker 11: brilliance and his charismas they brought to the game and

3072
02:34:01,280 --> 02:34:04,520
Speaker 11: just you know, changed it and changed the viewership of

3073
02:34:04,560 --> 02:34:07,000
Speaker 11: everything and make off what it is today, or help

3074
02:34:07,080 --> 02:34:09,400
Speaker 11: make off what it is today. I should say, and

3075
02:34:09,879 --> 02:34:13,920
Speaker 11: I feel like what Caitlin Clark has done is really raised. Now.

3076
02:34:13,920 --> 02:34:15,480
Speaker 11: It's funny, do you see the thing guys when they

3077
02:34:15,520 --> 02:34:18,800
Speaker 11: talked about the right steel for the w n b

3078
02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:24,000
Speaker 11: A and they like quadrupled or troubled, but the commissioner

3079
02:34:24,000 --> 02:34:25,360
Speaker 11: of the league and it was a commission league, they

3080
02:34:25,400 --> 02:34:28,200
Speaker 11: were upset. They're like, we think that they undersold the

3081
02:34:28,640 --> 02:34:31,200
Speaker 11: rights because we think we're going to grow that much more.

3082
02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:33,600
Speaker 11: And you know what, they could be right because I

3083
02:34:33,640 --> 02:34:38,240
Speaker 11: really do think that that the woman's at w n

3084
02:34:38,280 --> 02:34:39,720
Speaker 11: b A and I let's say what you want to

3085
02:34:39,720 --> 02:34:42,760
Speaker 11: say about her. I know she's not the talent necessarily

3086
02:34:42,959 --> 02:34:46,400
Speaker 11: of Caitlin Clark, but I think Angel Reese has been

3087
02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:51,560
Speaker 11: like a good foil for her so to speak. Thing, yeah, yeah,

3088
02:34:52,800 --> 02:34:55,600
Speaker 11: you have to have that, yes, And I feel like

3089
02:34:56,040 --> 02:34:58,400
Speaker 11: that Reese did a double double streak and then you look,

3090
02:34:58,480 --> 02:35:01,440
Speaker 11: it's funny. Then you see they they put four women

3091
02:35:01,520 --> 02:35:04,520
Speaker 11: on her so she couldn't get her tenth point because

3092
02:35:04,520 --> 02:35:07,160
Speaker 11: they again I guess, but I guess. I let you know,

3093
02:35:07,240 --> 02:35:10,240
Speaker 11: they maybe people just don't like anyone who comes in

3094
02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:12,400
Speaker 11: and helps usport. They just they just don't want anyone

3095
02:35:12,440 --> 02:35:15,200
Speaker 11: that have any success. And maybe it's just that I

3096
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:18,240
Speaker 11: don't know, but yeah, I think that's at least a

3097
02:35:18,280 --> 02:35:20,560
Speaker 11: really good thing for the WMBA. It's growth and I

3098
02:35:20,560 --> 02:35:24,120
Speaker 11: think it has a tremendous future, and I just wish

3099
02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:28,080
Speaker 11: that the league. Maybe it's the league understand to it.

3100
02:35:28,080 --> 02:35:30,640
Speaker 11: I don't know. Maybe the players don't get Caitlin Clark

3101
02:35:30,920 --> 02:35:32,520
Speaker 11: is the best thing they ever could happen. And their

3102
02:35:32,520 --> 02:35:35,160
Speaker 11: salaries will go up, their endorsements will go up, their

3103
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:38,199
Speaker 11: sneaker deals, potential, what what? Everything should go up? Anyway?

3104
02:35:38,240 --> 02:35:40,720
Speaker 11: Sorry about that rank, guy, I heard you guys talking

3105
02:35:40,760 --> 02:35:41,039
Speaker 11: about it.

3106
02:35:41,560 --> 02:35:43,360
Speaker 2: It's good. It's good. We all so we've only got

3107
02:35:43,400 --> 02:35:45,480
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes to do. His favorite What do

3108
02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:49,000
Speaker 2: you got? I'm sure you got baseball? And then I

3109
02:35:49,040 --> 02:35:50,400
Speaker 2: know fits you all the question for you?

3110
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I got I got a bunch of baseball guys.

3111
02:35:54,360 --> 02:35:56,879
Speaker 11: Look Nester Quartez's year's giving up over four and handy

3112
02:35:56,920 --> 02:36:00,520
Speaker 11: at sixteen of the twenty starts. I see reason the

3113
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:04,320
Speaker 11: book that trends the juice was low. Nico Lodolos Cincinnati

3114
02:36:04,360 --> 02:36:07,720
Speaker 11: Reds over four and a half strikeouts. He guys in

3115
02:36:07,800 --> 02:36:09,760
Speaker 11: his careers, averaging six and a half four and a

3116
02:36:09,800 --> 02:36:12,800
Speaker 11: half too low. Yes, tough matchup versus Washington goes in

3117
02:36:12,879 --> 02:36:14,720
Speaker 11: ton of k but Lodolo is a guy. I think

3118
02:36:14,760 --> 02:36:17,360
Speaker 11: we'll get there to those five strikeouts, ruining that was

3119
02:36:17,360 --> 02:36:21,680
Speaker 11: too low. Tony Gray five and a half strikeouts fourteen

3120
02:36:21,720 --> 02:36:23,680
Speaker 11: and three of the game got ragined out yesterday fourteen

3121
02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:26,320
Speaker 11: and three, averaging over seven against the Braves team that

3122
02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:29,000
Speaker 11: tops three in the league last month and striking out

3123
02:36:29,360 --> 02:36:31,879
Speaker 11: give me that. One of my favorite pitchers this year's

3124
02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:34,480
Speaker 11: been TODs Bradley. Guys, I'm gonna double dip here with

3125
02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:38,080
Speaker 11: TODZ Bradley over five and a half strikeouts. He's eighty

3126
02:36:38,120 --> 02:36:40,280
Speaker 11: five strikeouts in the sixteen innings. He's gone over nine

3127
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:43,160
Speaker 11: to twelve games against the Yankees team that's in the

3128
02:36:43,160 --> 02:36:45,200
Speaker 11: mid pack and strikeouts. I think he definitely get to

3129
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:47,560
Speaker 11: six kap and I like Todge Bradley under two and

3130
02:36:47,600 --> 02:36:50,160
Speaker 11: a half our runs. He's done it seven strike games,

3131
02:36:50,200 --> 02:36:53,199
Speaker 11: he's ken in two to the under and again in pitching, guys,

3132
02:36:53,200 --> 02:36:56,960
Speaker 11: always trump's hitting in the sport of baseball. So to me,

3133
02:36:57,120 --> 02:36:59,440
Speaker 11: I think that that was that was worth and one more.

3134
02:36:59,480 --> 02:37:03,800
Speaker 11: Gavin william under forty anth strikeouts guys, clear he's nine

3135
02:37:03,800 --> 02:37:06,200
Speaker 11: and nine to that under You're like, okay, what's the edge, Well,

3136
02:37:06,560 --> 02:37:09,240
Speaker 11: san Diego, the eleven Commandment of San Diego does not

3137
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:11,840
Speaker 11: strike out this team. Just you cannot strike out san

3138
02:37:11,879 --> 02:37:15,320
Speaker 11: Diego again. I bet that's been fifty to fifty. You're

3139
02:37:15,320 --> 02:37:17,119
Speaker 11: going to go against the hardest team to strike out.

3140
02:37:17,120 --> 02:37:19,400
Speaker 11: I'm gonna dare Gab more than just get five strikeouts.

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Speaker 3: I like it, FITZI no, I mean we're up against it.

3142
02:37:23,640 --> 02:37:25,840
Speaker 3: Just tell everybody how they can find out and keep

3143
02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:26,800
Speaker 3: in touch with what you're doing.

3144
02:37:27,320 --> 02:37:30,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm on on Twitter on Brad's Best Bets and

3145
02:37:31,160 --> 02:37:33,400
Speaker 11: you can always reach me on there and any questions

3146
02:37:33,480 --> 02:37:36,840
Speaker 11: or everything. I'm always happy to answer anyone and help everyone.

3147
02:37:36,879 --> 02:37:39,760
Speaker 11: And I was, you know, just as Anthony always says,

3148
02:37:39,680 --> 02:37:41,840
Speaker 11: as long as the sportsman as well too, not just

3149
02:37:41,879 --> 02:37:42,800
Speaker 11: the gam But I.

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Speaker 2: Love that's the bets. That's why you're the best. We

3151
02:37:45,800 --> 02:37:47,000
Speaker 2: love you. Thank you.

3152
02:37:47,080 --> 02:37:49,959
Speaker 11: Brad does one next week?

3153
02:37:50,280 --> 02:37:53,440
Speaker 2: You got a brain there he is the brain checking it.

3154
02:37:53,520 --> 02:37:55,959
Speaker 2: We'll come back. I try, we are. I have to

3155
02:37:55,959 --> 02:38:00,200
Speaker 2: wrap it up. It's fast, Fellas hanging right here with you.

3156
02:38:00,400 --> 02:38:09,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Ah, welcome back, Fellas, Jason fitz Kevin Figures.

3157
02:38:09,760 --> 02:38:14,439
Speaker 2: I'm Anthony Gargana again. Thanks to Mighty Mark and Brianna.

3158
02:38:15,480 --> 02:38:21,920
Speaker 2: Great job, guys, we appreciate it. So you mentioned the WNBA,

3159
02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:27,600
Speaker 2: you mentioned the Olympics. Does that Will that be your

3160
02:38:27,640 --> 02:38:30,279
Speaker 2: primary focus in the Bridge period?

3161
02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:35,600
Speaker 3: I guess I say that was such sadness. Now me

3162
02:38:35,600 --> 02:38:36,280
Speaker 3: the Olympics.

3163
02:38:36,360 --> 02:38:38,959
Speaker 2: I liked the Olympics a lot, and I think I

3164
02:38:39,200 --> 02:38:42,480
Speaker 2: like it in theory more than in actuality.

3165
02:38:44,560 --> 02:38:46,840
Speaker 3: That's well said, because look I'll be covering a lot

3166
02:38:46,879 --> 02:38:49,760
Speaker 3: of it for Yahoo from here obviously, just a little

3167
02:38:49,840 --> 02:38:52,280
Speaker 3: quick hit videos and things. But this is I think

3168
02:38:52,480 --> 02:38:55,039
Speaker 3: the Olympics comes in spurts. I just don't find myself

3169
02:38:55,080 --> 02:38:56,800
Speaker 3: having the same level of oh my god, I can't

3170
02:38:56,800 --> 02:38:59,040
Speaker 3: wait for this excitement that I usually have for the Olympics.

3171
02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:01,640
Speaker 3: I don't know why. It just doesn't feel like it's

3172
02:39:01,720 --> 02:39:04,440
Speaker 3: hitting the same way this year that it usually does

3173
02:39:04,480 --> 02:39:04,680
Speaker 3: for me.

3174
02:39:04,720 --> 02:39:06,400
Speaker 2: Maybe when it starts, you'll get into it.

3175
02:39:06,480 --> 02:39:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, for sure.

3176
02:39:07,959 --> 02:39:10,840
Speaker 2: It's kind of where I'm looking at. Yeah, that's kind

3177
02:39:10,840 --> 02:39:14,400
Speaker 2: of where I think I am where. You know, Like,

3178
02:39:14,480 --> 02:39:17,400
Speaker 2: I obviously love the basketball, I mean I like all

3179
02:39:17,440 --> 02:39:18,920
Speaker 2: of the you know, I like a lot of this

3180
02:39:18,959 --> 02:39:21,840
Speaker 2: stuff I do miss I have to say I missed

3181
02:39:22,080 --> 02:39:28,120
Speaker 2: when boxing was was relevant the Summer Games. I always

3182
02:39:28,280 --> 02:39:29,240
Speaker 2: think about boxing.

3183
02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:31,360
Speaker 5: It's one of the marquee events for a long time.

3184
02:39:31,600 --> 02:39:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Now it's just an afterthought. That's crazy to.

3185
02:39:35,280 --> 02:39:39,160
Speaker 3: Think we've gone from the boxing from boxing being a

3186
02:39:39,240 --> 02:39:42,360
Speaker 3: you know, Olympic event, to breakdancing. I'm just like this,

3187
02:39:42,840 --> 02:39:45,879
Speaker 3: the world's gotten weird. Man, Like I disrespect to the

3188
02:39:45,879 --> 02:39:48,760
Speaker 3: breakdancers that are there, but maybe a little disrespect. I

3189
02:39:48,760 --> 02:39:51,280
Speaker 3: don't know. I just can't break dancing being an Olympic sport.

3190
02:39:51,360 --> 02:39:51,760
Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 5: Hey, look, we started the show talking about esports.

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Speaker 4: It's it's on the docket before within the next decade

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Speaker 4: that it might be an Olympic sport too.

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Speaker 2: Just saying I know, I know, thumbs fingers and thumbs thumb.

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Speaker 3: Turn it into an Olympic gold medal.

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Speaker 2: It's great. I mean, it's just insane. And then like

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Speaker 2: I mean, I I remember as a kid, like the

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Speaker 2: boxing man it was we had some amazing fighters and

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Speaker 2: it was something about boxing and the Olympics, like where

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Speaker 2: in the colors the flags on your shorts like it

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Speaker 2: was I don't know, I mean, it was it was

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Speaker 2: almost the way it should be determined, like in the ring.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well even with this heavyweight fights independent of the Olympics,

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Speaker 4: boxing was such a popular sport and it was a

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Speaker 4: fight between nations and German fighters versus American fighters.

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Speaker 5: It was a big thing.

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Speaker 4: And you know Johnson Schnelling like think go all the

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Speaker 4: way back in the day was it was always you know,

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Speaker 4: a major thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Phillies, the the the Cuba had a fighter,

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Speaker 2: heavyweight fighter who was like impossible to beat, by the

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Speaker 2: name of Teofilio Stevenson. Anybody remember that name.

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Speaker 5: The name is vaguely familiar and Ridick Bow for sure, ye.

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Speaker 2: Who beat them. And it was like, you know, I

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Speaker 2: hope I have the facts right, but it's just come

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Speaker 2: off the top of my head. But it was like

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Speaker 2: like this, you know, Cuba, it was communism, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it just had that kind of feel to it like

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Speaker 2: fighting in the ring where it was there's also.

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Speaker 3: Like a leven of level of badassery to that that

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Speaker 3: it's like my country fighting your country. Yes, and I

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Speaker 3: don't want to be wildly deep here. As we finished

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Speaker 3: the fellas, but I'm not sure that we have the

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Speaker 3: same sense of national pride now that we've had an

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Speaker 3: Olympics past like it, it was like a country divided

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Speaker 3: right now, not a country yes, coming together. And then

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Speaker 3: you think about the Olympics, like we can't even agree

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Speaker 3: on it right now. I feel like if you walked

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Speaker 3: into a store and said I love ice cream, somebody

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Speaker 3: would start yelling at you about why your decision to

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Speaker 3: like ice cream sucked. Like we're so with each other, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just we haven't galvanized together around our country the

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Speaker 3: way that we do typically for the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, yeah, I really missed that. I felt

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Speaker 2: we felt so strong when we were the guy. It

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Speaker 2: felt different. I mean the best the only way I

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Speaker 2: could describe it is that you felt strength. Yeah, with

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Speaker 2: everybody on the scene.

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Speaker 5: You fail unity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Solidarity and patriotism was something that we had

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Speaker 3: for a very long time in this country, and other

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Speaker 3: countries that have toured two around the world have it

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Speaker 3: as we speak. It's just right now, it just feels

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Speaker 3: like that moment is lost.

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Speaker 2: We need to The Dutch they celebrate the Euros when

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Speaker 2: they made their run in the Euros and it was

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Speaker 2: you know, it was awesome, right, the orange and and

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Speaker 2: I missed that for us, And you're right, you know

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Speaker 2: these other much. She's had it, but we don't have it.

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Speaker 5: It's really sad.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the Olympics brings us all together and then

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Speaker 3: Bam kumbaya. But in an election year, I think we

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Speaker 3: know that ain't happening.

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Speaker 2: I know, I hear you. I wish it would anyway.

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Speaker 2: We love you guys, so thank you for hanging with us. Fellas.

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Speaker 2: Wish you good week. We'll see you next week.