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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast

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Speaker 1: build you from the inside out.

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Speaker 2: Now Here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into Unbreakable mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer. I'm

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Speaker 3: Jay Glazer, and my vacation's over. Went to the Combine

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Speaker 3: this past week, and I was like, you know, who

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Speaker 3: could I have on to really explain what the NFL

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Speaker 3: scount and Combine is, what the intricacies are, how you

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Speaker 3: really kind of figure out who you want to invest in,

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Speaker 3: how you get in between the six inches between.

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Speaker 4: Your ears of these players.

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Speaker 3: Who better to bring on than the first general manager

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Speaker 3: I ever had on the show ever, Seattle Seahawks general manager,

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Speaker 3: My little buddy, Josh Sneider.

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Speaker 4: How are we doing? Stuts?

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Speaker 2: How the going, buddy?

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Speaker 4: It's so funny, Shines.

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Speaker 3: I became friends in like ninety seven, and when you

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Speaker 3: have your friends out here you've been friends with forever, you.

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Speaker 4: Just do not introduce them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, Right's kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: US TV hosts have a very high time with that shit.

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Speaker 3: But those of you who can't see this, you're listening

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Speaker 3: in audio before even start. Those who can't see this,

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Speaker 3: right behind Schneider's head is this big painting that his

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Speaker 3: son bended right.

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Speaker 2: And all over the wall, all over the wall.

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Speaker 3: And his son bend is autistic. Tell people real quick

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Speaker 3: before we even start on this podcast about that, how

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Speaker 3: you figured it out and what he's doing now, because

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Speaker 3: his I have I think what five of his paintings

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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have a bunch.

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Speaker 4: So he's a genius.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible and so twenty three years old and they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to look kind of like Jackson Pollock ish and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves it, and so you had.

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Speaker 4: No idea he was like this until about four years ago.

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Speaker 1: He always loved art and then when we hired Nicole

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Speaker 1: his mentor, full time, they really just dove into it.

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Speaker 2: And it's been great.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he has his own company, Small Ego art

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Speaker 1: dot Com. And he does shoes too, so like, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's like Air Force ones and stuff. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the majority of it goes to help families that can't

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Speaker 1: afford treatments for autism, which you know, as you know, Jame,

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Speaker 1: my wife Tracy has been doing it for since twenty

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks she's raised you know, probably over six million

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Speaker 1: dollars for families so grant so for iPads and heavy

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Speaker 1: blankets and you know, retreats and counselors and anything.

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Speaker 4: And then that's one of the.

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Speaker 3: Things to you and I have talked about it, like, man,

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Speaker 3: when it first happened, You're like, man, why did this

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Speaker 3: to me, so it could happen for others that I

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Speaker 3: could help them.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: God, you know, gives you what you can handle, right,

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Speaker 1: so yep, yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know I never have to.

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Speaker 3: You know, what was your reaction the first time you

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Speaker 4: I know my reaction was oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. There was a lot of

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Speaker 2: crying involved.

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Speaker 2: How are we gonna do it?

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Speaker 1: So then he's able to live on his own, so

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Speaker 1: you know, gett him into his house and like getting

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Speaker 1: Tracy run the business and then.

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Speaker 4: Answer my question.

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Speaker 3: My question was tell me like, I don't know when

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Speaker 3: Folks, small ego Art go to small ego art dot

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Speaker 3: com or go to Instagram small ego Art. All right,

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Speaker 3: So we just got back to the company and back

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Speaker 3: Now you gotta be real sensitive to you know, what

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Speaker 3: it's a great thing, but these guys have been so

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Speaker 4: Hard to get a real answer. That's where our work

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Speaker 1: So then I'm like, I'm going back to these guys

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Speaker 2: There's so much more to it.

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Speaker 1: And you remember sitting next to you know, like all

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Speaker 4: Did you ever see a guy jump over to tack,

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Speaker 2: No, no, but get up and leave, Get up and leave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it is interesting. How do you get the

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Speaker 4: Almost every one of the four answers like I want

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Speaker 4: Like, well, that's not what the answer that's going to

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Speaker 1: When the guys when they say, hey, you don't want

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Speaker 1: but yeah, no, it's it's definitely, it's definitely. It's it's

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Speaker 1: changed a ton, Jay, So like that fifteen minutes is

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Speaker 1: And so there'd be a lot of like arguments, fights

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody.

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Speaker 3: What's the let's say, coolest thing you heard one of

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Speaker 4: Doesn't have to be this year?

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Speaker 2: Oh doesn't that to do this year? Oh man? Two amazing,

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Speaker 4: Then who had an interview where you're like, oh, this

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Speaker 2: Did you see LA game? You know, like wow, I

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Speaker 1: They're like really such an impressive human being and communicator

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Speaker 2: He always stands that out to me. You know, his uncle,

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Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, you've told me the story enough, you know,

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Speaker 1: We were talking the afternoon, right Like, once you kind

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Speaker 4: It's all look it also folks, to be honest with Also,

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Speaker 4: You can see guys on the road and you're scouting.

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Speaker 1: We had a really cool late night uh you know,

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Speaker 2: Hey, what did you learn? What did you learn? Whether

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Speaker 1: How do we can'd of form our spring, not kind

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Speaker 1: can't have that guy, can't have that guy. I can't

444
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,240
Speaker 1: have that guy.

445
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to do more research on those guys.

446
00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,680
Speaker 2: So the football these guys over is about like, you know,

447
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:26,320
Speaker 2: I got it right now.

448
00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,760
Speaker 1: We got about like say one hundred and sixty guys

449
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,200
Speaker 1: on our board, and we probably had like one hundred

450
00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,480
Speaker 1: and eighty. We probably had like about forty of them,

451
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 1: Like they're like the of those forty to fifty, Okay,

452
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, we'll go with the medical staff and figure out, Okay,

453
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,160
Speaker 1: who do we need to bring in on a thirty

454
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 1: visit and have our docs spend more time with and reevaluate.

455
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, my other part of that question

456
00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 4: was like the schedule going up to the draft.

457
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 3: The reason why I say it because I try and

458
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,880
Speaker 3: tell people all the time, like if there's reports out

459
00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,480
Speaker 3: there right now that this is such a nuch team

460
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,560
Speaker 3: has this guy in the top ten. They're so full

461
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 3: of ship because your boards are nowhere near sets no

462
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 3: or even put up no no.

463
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 1: I think I think last year, I think I freaked

464
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 1: out Mike McDonald out, you know, like first time head coach.

465
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 1: You know, you come like, oh, cool, Yeah, the Seahawks

466
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,680
Speaker 1: are supposed to be pretty good at drafting and stuff,

467
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,360
Speaker 1: and you walked into the draft room after after the comp.

468
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,400
Speaker 2: Basically the gap to the comment.

469
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 1: What we do is we were like, if they had

470
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,920
Speaker 1: a good combine, how they worked out, so we slide

471
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 1: them up, slide the tags up or down, and then

472
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 1: we just know, like to okay that we're going to

473
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 1: spend more time just evaluating the combine to we really

474
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 1: seen the right thing, you know, just from studying the film,

475
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,400
Speaker 1: from the workouts, and then you know, so it looks

476
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 1: like it's a total disaster.

477
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 2: He started, he's I think he was kind of looking

478
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 2: at us like, oh my god, this is going to

479
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 2: be a nightmare. You know.

480
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,439
Speaker 4: This now what happens.

481
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

482
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 1: The other thing happens to JA when when you're talking

483
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 1: about that is you know you go through that week

484
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, oh yeah, you know you

485
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 1: meet with people, and you meet with teams and stuff,

486
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 1: and and then you know you've never trade for whatever

487
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 1: call whatever the position is, No, no, no, we like

488
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 1: our guys there. And then you talk to a team

489
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 1: and they're like hey, or you know, throughout the week.

490
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: Later in the week you're like hey, I you know,

491
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: what do you think about this guy? And you're like, man,

492
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we should do that, you know. And then

493
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: so then you know, you end up making a trade

494
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 1: that you just told people you would never you wouldn't do, right,

495
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: So then you know, so there's just a lot of

496
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of uncertainty at this time of

497
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: the year, and it's really like, okay, it feels like

498
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 1: it really feels like you're like in between home plate

499
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: in first place.

500
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's again. I think the process is

501
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 3: well through it and I can't say enough like a

502
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 3: goat folks. Draft wise, these guys, even when they do

503
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 3: set their board, they reset it the Monday of the draft.

504
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 4: Right you guys. You guys then have mock draft to

505
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 4: see what they want to do.

506
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 3: And it I mean for some teams goes rap till

507
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: the data draft where they're just changing the order of

508
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 3: things and they and I think there's a huge misconception

509
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 3: because a lot of it is what's up, oh Seahawks

510
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 3: of this guy in the top ten, Like Seahawks don't.

511
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: Even have ten guys there yet, Like we don't do

512
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: Monck drafts. I hear you say Monck drafts.

513
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: Like one of the worst drafts we did was we

514
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: did like a rehearsal mock draft, like where everybody had

515
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 1: a team, right and so, and then he was kind

516
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: of it was like, I'm like, okay, We're never ever

517
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: doing that again.

518
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 4: Why what happened?

519
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: What you just your brain's all over the place.

520
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: Then you're like, okay, well that's really not the way

521
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: I view it coming off right, And you have to

522
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: be so pliable throughout the draft weekend, like where you're

523
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: going to try to acquire people in what areas? It's like,

524
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: holy cow, we were just we were a little too

525
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: scattered that year.

526
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, we will we will do that.

527
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 4: The uh again.

528
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: We were talking about having then with Chasing Light and

529
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: there's a couple of questions that came up. Come on

530
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 3: to hit a couple of these, and one of them was,

531
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: what's the thing about being a general manager that you

532
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 3: you weren't expecting, Like if you knew then, well, you

533
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 3: know now it would be a lot easier for you.

534
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh man, what for you as a GM.

535
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: We're getting the first sixteenth draft, so really blessed in

536
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: Washington too.

537
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

538
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: So you know, I think, maybe not from a draft standpoint,

539
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: but I think the job, the job, Yeah, yeah, I think.

540
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: I think. I think the behind the scenes stuff that

541
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: people don't see, the personal things that you can't talk

542
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: about publicly that you go through personally with players, coaches, staff,

543
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: that we're not necessarily prepared for.

544
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

545
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: You know, coaches go to a lot of you know,

546
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: coaching clinics and they share a lot more you know,

547
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: coaching information, you know schematically, you know, we we we

548
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: tend to not do that as as going up in

549
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: the scouting industry and you try to kind of, you know,

550
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: keep things much.

551
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 2: More to the best.

552
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: And there's things that when you're in that position and

553
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: there's things that come up every single day and we're

554
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: builda polly and tell me and make sure to make sure,

555
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, when you show up for work, you don't

556
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: let people keep putting those monkeys on your back because

557
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden if every keeps coming in your

558
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: office and giving you their monkeys by noon, you're gonna

559
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: have twelve monkeys on your shoulders and you're gonna have

560
00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 1: to work your tail off fall out.

561
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: You're needing to fix it.

562
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: You got to be able to learn to delegate and

563
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: not try to fix everything yourself, and help people grow

564
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: and and just lead. And I think just like your

565
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: communication skills and have never changed, and you know as

566
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: a person, or do things, do things the way you

567
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: know other people would do them. I mean, I think

568
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: the world of obviously Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson and

569
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: Terry Bradway and people would have been my direct bosses.

570
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: But I'm not.

571
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: I know I'm not them, and I've always when we

572
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 1: got fired in Washington, I always thought like, hey, if

573
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: ever get back in this, I'm not going to try to.

574
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: Do it a specific way.

575
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: If I was able to get into that role again,

576
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: and then hooking up with Pete, he just made it

577
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: so evident because he went through you know himself haven't

578
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: been fired twice, you know, in the NFL, and then

579
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: having all that success, you'd like, hey, we're just going

580
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: to make us the best marriage we could possibly make it.

581
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 1: And we're going to lead the way we lead as

582
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: as the people we are. So that part of it,

583
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: and then I would say, you know, the heart the

584
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: hardest thing really is the contractual part, and you know,

585
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: the casually part like every year like kind of resetting

586
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: and every.

587
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: Year the new year, and you have to make decisions

588
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: to like, you know, move on, you know, and.

589
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: I mean everybody's human, right, you know, these guys you

590
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: become so close like I don't want to say personally

591
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 1: close with the guys, but you care so much about them.

592
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: You know.

593
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: It's not as that's the now eighty to ninety per

594
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: of the job is amazing and we're all like it's

595
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: it's we're all very very blessed to be doing this.

596
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: And Jason and I were talking about today, like the

597
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: longevity that's been amazing and we feel very thankful for that.

598
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: But that that stuff is, like that human element is

599
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: still very hard.

600
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 5: Well.

601
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: It's interesting because I whatever coach you get in there,

602
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: I was telling him, man, you have no idea what

603
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: to come about to come across your desk, right the

604
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: stuff because you're playing because everybody in your building's messed up.

605
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 3: It's just the bottom line, you can't be great and

606
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: not have some crazy and to everybody.

607
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 4: Right, it's crazy.

608
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: But then there's family, and then you have agents and

609
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 3: baby mine and this and that, and all these people

610
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: are taking all this stuff and it all comes on

611
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: your plate across your desk, whether you're the head coach

612
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: or general manager, and there's no there's no schooling anybody

613
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: can go to to deal with it because you're dealing

614
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 3: with mental health issues, you're dealing with cheating issues, family stealing,

615
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 3: I mean, just really tough stuff, you know, violence, things,

616
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: things that you didn't No one went to school for it,

617
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: for this stuff. It's just like and all of a sudden,

618
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: now everybody suddenly has become a psychologist. Everybody has to

619
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: be a psychiatrist. Everybody has to be a therapy and

620
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: you have to learn on the fly how to do that,

621
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: which is amazing.

622
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that maybe the first or second year

623
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: we were playing down into Alice and one of us

624
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: starting offensive. Lineman's uh like his loss's best friend, and uh,

625
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: you know he's in my room and I'm sitting there

626
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: hugging this big guy, trying to help him out, you know.

627
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: And yeah, to your point, you're not trained for that.

628
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there's no. And even we did go to

629
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: school for it, we're still not trayed for it. It's

630
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: not no what's normal in this lot of work?

631
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: Right?

632
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

633
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: I mean you should see the resumes. I get those there,

634
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: like I have my doctorate in sports management and I'm like, well,

635
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: where where did you get that?

636
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know when we were in college, they're

637
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: like the sports management stuff didn't didn't exist. And there's

638
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: so many there's so many talented people out there that

639
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: just you just need that op to.

640
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: Get in the door.

641
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: Last person I got for you, what's I wore.

642
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: A colored shirt for you today? By the way, No,

643
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: thank you very much. When when was the last time

644
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: or something the color.

645
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: Comfortable with it? To be honest with you. Last question

646
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 4: got for you?

647
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: What traits you think you learned from being a GM

648
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: or let's say the GM hash but you think could

649
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: equate to anybody trying to run a business.

650
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: For me, personally, it's pretty easy. It's it's a communication

651
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: and empathy.

652
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: Always trying to put yourself in somebody else's promission and

653
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: how are they feeling? And you know, how are you,

654
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, doing what's best for the club, Like first

655
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: and foremost, like what's best, what's what's best for the

656
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: for the organization, whether it's employees or agents, or players

657
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: or coaches or doctor and the trainer and their fields crew.

658
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: Like having that like direct communication and level of empathy

659
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: and appreciation for what everybody and then you can take that,

660
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: you know, anywhere you want. You know, you know Mike Gerva,

661
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: doctor Gervey pretty well right and he you know, work

662
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: with Microsoft and Satia and everything and they you know, Satia,

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Speaker 1: I built a whole, you know, I want to say

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Speaker 1: it's like two hundred and you know, sixty thousand people

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Speaker 1: basically that you know, he's in charge of that.

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Speaker 2: He runs you know, the organization through empathy, like first

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Speaker 2: and foremost. So that's that's it.

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Speaker 4: Love it, Snods. I appreciate your brother.

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Speaker 5: Get small Ego art dot com or on Instagram. Thanks

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Speaker 5: for that, Jay, absolutely brother, Love you man, and uh

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Speaker 5: appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks thanks for having me, man,