WEBVTT - Time to Get Rollin' 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:19.079 Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Phillies Show with Group of 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:23.720 Tomorrow Junior Jim Salisbury. I am todd so lucky. It 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:29.720 is Monday, April fifteenth, twenty twenty four. Gentlemen, the Phillies 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.559 split a weekend series against the Pirates. I think everybody 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.800 you know Phillies fans for sure went into this Sunday 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.479 series finale feeling pretty good about their chances to take 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.640 three out of four. You have Zach Wheeler on the mound, 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:48.240 who's been pitching great all year, finally get a nice 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.120 weather day, so you're thinking, man, maybe the bats finally 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:57.600 get going a little bit. And then Zach Wheeler struggles 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.600 a little bit and the offense really doesn't get going. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:08.120 They lose, so they split that series finale, split the 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:13.679 series against the Pirates, and so much talk continues about 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.559 this offense. Guys. You know Howard Eskin, our dear friend 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:22.600 Howard Eskin on Thursday is asking Rob Thompson about the 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.480 lack of slug and are you gonna slug enough this season? 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.640 And I know you're gonna make the playoffs, but are 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.800 you gonna slug enough? And Rob had a great response. 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.280 He says, wait a second, so you know we're gonna 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:34.960 make the playoffs, but you don't know if we're gonna 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.360 slug or not, which I thought was which I thought 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.160 was great because it's so true. You know, you can't 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.880 have one without the other. In my opinion, this team's 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.920 hitting like it is right now. Boy, it could be 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:50.600 a rough second half. I personally think, like Rob Thompson, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.560 they will slug. But I want to ask you guys 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.480 this question, is there what point of this season or 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.440 how many had bats into his season do you start 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.440 to feel like we're getting a picture of what a 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.080 player can do or what a team can do offense? 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.560 Will be Jim, what about you? I mean you've interviewed 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.800 so many you know, managers over the years. Rubin, I 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.440 mean you played. I mean, whoever wants to get to start. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.480 Let's get your thoughts on that. 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:21.040 Go ahead. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.760 I want to hear what you say that'll copy it. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.400 So I think it's just I think this is a 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.040 product of a couple of things. I know that they 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.840 wanted to get off to a good start and all 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.639 that other business. They want to do things a little 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.040 differently in spring training, which they did with the pitchers, 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:39.240 but they didn't. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.880 Do so with the with the position players. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.520 And I think part of it you had they have 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.959 this sort of built in excuse that they had a virus. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.359 Running through you know, running through the clubhouse. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.040 It was pretty significant obviously, O'Ryan kirkering just getting back 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:59.640 from that, and it really backed guys up because they 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:04.560 didn't really get They didn't get on the field and 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.359 start really doing their work until a little bit later. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.080 In most cases, like I don't know, eighty or eighty 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:15.239 percent of the players that said, I do not think 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.280 that they got enough at bats, enough competitive at bats, 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:22.760 enough playing time, enough chances to run the bases enough. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.200 In this day and age, everybody wants to be more 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.040 and more careful. The players are designing their own. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.360 Path for spring training. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.760 They all know what they're supposed to do to get ready. Well, 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.200 guess what, they don't always all know what to do. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:43.480 To get ready for spring training. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.360 I believe in my heart of hearts that you've got 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.400 to get somewhere between sixty and eighty at bats in 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.600 a games, not in the backfield games. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:55.400 You got to get between. 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:56.960 Sixty and eighty at bats, and you've got to get 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.640 multiple at bats to start getting a rhythm, get your 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.920 legs underneath, to get your eyes together, get your timing going, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.040 and you need the opportunities to get on the base 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.680 pass because if you don't do anything. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.280 For three months, baseball is a weird game. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:11.520 Man. 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.120 You put your spikes on, it's different, it's different on 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.200 your body, it's different, your eyes different, you on your 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:21.279 ability to react. There's all types of things that have 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.920 to happen. That's why you play the games to get 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:30.760 ready to play a major league season. I think that 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:36.599 there is such an emphasis on allowing players, they don't 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.119 care whether they're veterans or young players, giving them their 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:41.279 time to get ready. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.240 Well, guess what. There is a tried and true. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.320 Method of getting guys ready, And guess what it is 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.840 is actually playing the games, getting one at bat and 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.120 getting two at innings on the field and then sitting. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.360 And cutting it. That's like a joke, Okay, a joke 0:04:58.520 --> 0:04:58.800 for me. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.640 Go out there and play five innings in your first 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.200 game because they're all physically ready to do it. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.440 Go get ready and go play. And I know people, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:11.719 and I think this is epidemic. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.800 This is not just the Phillies or Rob Thompson or 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:20.200 their staff or the medical staff I think it is 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.320 an epidemic thing that is happening in baseball. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.320 And people are not ready. I've watched Bait all the 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.200 Bay a lot of baseball this year. It's ugly. There's 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.800 not great baseball going on. You know who's playing well? 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:33.920 The Dodgers, you know what I have. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.680 They're playing well because the Dodgers had to play in 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.960 Japan and they started getting ready earlier. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.640 So here here's my take. First of all, they're not 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.800 They weren't ready to play Number one. Number two. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.120 I think it's going to take longer to find out 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.400 what that team what they are because they're still going 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.600 through spring training. In my mind, and I think they're 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.640 in the asked. I used to assess my team much 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.960 better after about a month and a half, six weeks 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:10.520 May fifteenth to May thirtieth, somewhere in there, I knew 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:15.200 what my team is. Now, because people don't play, and 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:19.520 people don't really get ready and rolling and get enough reps, 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.839 I don't know what teams. You can't assess them until 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:28.760 mid June because that's when you start to find out 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.159 whether these guys after one hundred and. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.640 Fifty at bats or two hundred at bats. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.360 That's when you find out what these guys really are 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:37.520 and what kind of team you got. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.040 That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.880 I mean here in the very interesting points, extremely interesting 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.560 points almost reminds me a little of what we're hearing 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:51.719 about the NFL. Ow preseason has become irrelevant in the 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.839 first handful of games are like extended preseason. The reason 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.040 you see some sloppy play, etc. Guys still getting their legs. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.159 Hear that all the time time in the NFL. I 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.520 would pick that or the new NFL, I should say, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:09.200 the way it's evolved with the de emphasis of preseason, 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:16.400 I'm wondering they've played sixteen games based on your observations, room, 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.360 and that's just under ten percent of the season. Do 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.520 you think, I mean, if this is sort of an 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:27.840 extended spring and these sixteen games, maybe you're a little 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.400 bit fortunate to be at the midwater mark eight and 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.720 eight while you're still getting your legs in quote unquote 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:40.360 extended spring training. Do you think those sixteen games, these 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.400 past sixteen games have been good prepper? Are we going 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.480 to see them start to get going soon? 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:49.880 Here? I think they'll get better. They're too talented. There's 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:50.760 too much ability. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.960 I mean, you got guys like schore, Bert Turner, Harper, 0:07:54.320 --> 0:08:01.760 Castiano's boom Stot. They're really talented, super talented players. I 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:03.800 just don't know that they were in rhythm. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.920 Like I believe that you have to go through different 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.080 stages in spring training. You get your legs underneath you, you 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.720 get your hands going with the bat, you get your 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.560 timing going, you get hot, you get cold, you get 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.480 hot again, and then the season starts. That's the rhythm 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.720 of spring training for me, for everyday players. I've watched 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.800 it too many times. I know how it works. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.240 If you get enough at bats and you get enough 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.120 reps and you get enough times on the basis they 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.240 are not running the base as well, they're a better 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:36.200 based running team. 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:36.600 Than they are. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.720 They're not a superb running based running team because sometimes 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:46.200 it makes some overly aggressive decisions as a team. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.880 But they're much better than what I've seen, and I 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.000 know they can steal bases, but they're a better overall 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.040 based running team when it comes to going first and third, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.840 making decisions. 0:08:58.520 --> 0:08:59.600 Not getting picked off. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.120 But all those things you have to go through in 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.319 spring training so that you're ready for him in the game. 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.959 It's just, you know, there's not a lot of teams 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.120 that can just not a lot of players. You can't 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.080 get twenty six players all of a sudden go Okay, 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:12.920 here's here's a switch. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.280 We're gonna plick it on and go play. There's only 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.840 a few guys you can do that. Some guys can, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.640 some guys can't, but most cannot. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.120 And so I think that they're a better team than this. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.240 There's no question in my mind. I do think the 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:32.160 pitching has been excellent. I really do. It's just not 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.480 being supported by the rest of them, and. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.000 They've been sloppy. They've been sloppy in the field as well, 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.760 which I think fits into what you're saying about reps 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.120 and being ready to go. That's why I think very 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.040 fortunate to be eight and eight ten percent of the 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.839 way into the season, and maybe we'll see to use 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.640 the cliche a better version of the Phillies soon. Anybody 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.839 Todd surprised you slow start wise? I mean, Harper's off 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.440 to a slow start. What's your take on me? 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:04.440 Yeah, Harper surprises me, just because it's Bryce Harper. You know, 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.160 Bryson stops off to a slow start. He got off 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:08.880 I think the last season he opened with like a 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.400 sixteen game hitting streak. He's off to a slow start. Castianis, 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.679 of course off to a slow start. It was interesting 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.760 the last night I'm thinking about this because there is 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:23.040 so much from fans anyway, not not panic, but just 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.720 they can't hit. They can't hit, And I went on, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.559 I looked up some players last night to see how 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.199 they compare to other players in the big leagues. Like 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:37.240 Bryce Harper, for instance, he has a six seventy four OPS. 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.640 Guys just below him right now, Nolan Aernato, George Springer, 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.480 Corbyn Carroll, Alex Bregman, all having worst starts. In Bryce Harper, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.720 Bryce and Stotts six' ten, Ops Randy, Rose, Arena Xander, 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:55.280 Bogart's Cody, Bellinger Paul goldschmidt all having worse. Starts nick 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.719 castianos he was right at the. Bottom Julio rodriguez is 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.040 off worst, Start Francisco lindor is off to a worst. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:08.040 Start SO i feel like Sometimes phillies fans certainly they 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:12.800 look at everything as it relates to The phillies and 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:17.160 don't necessarily realize that it's also going on. Elsewhere so 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.839 don't hit that panic button. Yet But, ruben it's. Funny 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.640 while you were talking about spring training at bats and 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:27.679 you said sixty to, EIGHTY i looked it. Up your 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:33.439 head might explode. Here but twenty Five bryce And scott 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.400 led The phillies this spring at. Bats fifty five at, 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:42.720 bats thank, you, Yes. Rojas at one POINT i thought 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:46.080 he was going to finish with. Eighty he only finished 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.560 with fifty. Three you, know every every other, regular every 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.280 other everyday player for The phillies was had fewer than 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:58.040 fifty at bats this. Spring not a, lot you, know 0:11:58.640 --> 0:11:59.520 not a lot a lot of those. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.240 Guys so the SO i think what you would hear 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.800 from the hitting coach and From rob is, well they 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.360 got a bunch of you, know played appearances and at 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.000 bats in the minor. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.520 Leagues when they stayed, back they. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.760 Got you, know and they got it is not the. 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:26.280 Same it's not the. Same there's no there's there is no. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.320 Motivation you're not it's you're just seeing. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:36.000 Pitches it's just, EYEWASH i, Believe AND i don't care 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.439 if people get pissed off at me or. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.439 Not you have to play. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.200 Baseball to be ready to play baseball in no other, 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:47.520 sport in no other. Sport can you practice and be 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.920 able to translate practice into the. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.840 Game you have to play the games to. Develop that's 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.920 why they have minor. Leagues that's why they. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.080 Play supposed to play a. Lot now that's another whole, story. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.640 RIGHT i don't understand how they're bringing guys to the 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.120 major leagues after four hundred and seventy five played appearances 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.439 in the minors and now they're coming to the big. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:12.360 Leagues they're extraordinary. ATHLETES i get. It it's. Wonderful they're 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:16.240 way better athletes THAN i during my. ERA i totally get. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.920 It but you got to play the. Game you got 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.000 to play the game to learn the. 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.160 Game you got to play the game to experience all 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.120 the things that have to be experienced in the. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.880 Game base running, situations the. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.920 Panic you feel when you're in the field and you 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:33.920 got to turn a double play with man on first 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:34.719 and third. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:35.360 And there's one. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:40.319 Out that doesn't happen unless you're playing in a, game. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.240 And an a, game a major league. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:47.719 Game in in. 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.280 Terms of getting ready for a spring training major league, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:56.199 season you need you need to have those reps because 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.520 you just can't cruise into. It, man it doesn't HAPPEN 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.840 i don't care how many seasons you. PLAYED i don't 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.480 care if you're a one year veteran or a thirty year. 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.760 Veteran you have to play the games to get ready 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.199 for the. Games it's not like riding a. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.120 Bike and it's a. 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:16.600 Long long held. Truism there is no substitute for game, 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:21.960 reps no. Substitute it comes down to me to the 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.800 speed of. Everything everything's a little, quicker a little faster 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:30.120 in a major league game, setting any, professional top level game, 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.080 setting and the intensity is. Different AND i want to 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.680 ask you. Both listening To Larry anderson post game yesterday 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.800 on the, radio he was wondering where the intensity. Was 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:45.120 not seeing enough? INTENSITY i, mean he played the game 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:49.320 for a long, time very valid opinion in my, estimation 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.680 you see it enough? Intensity or is? It sometimes when 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.760 you're just not getting on, base you lack the. Energy 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.360 when you're not, hitting you lack the. Energy it doesn't 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.960 look like you're showing. Intense it's that age old, question 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:02.360 what do you? 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.200 Seeing? Tom, yeah you, KNOW i always go back To 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.680 Charlie manuel had some of the best offenses in baseball 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.480 when when he was the, manager AND i remember when 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.720 they would go into. Ruts people would, Say, charlie your 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.800 team looks, flat and he, goes there's nobody on. Base 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.680 you know you're gonna be. Flat you know you're gonna look. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.160 Flat there's no action on the. Basis SO i never 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.000 really know what to think about. THAT i do know 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:32.360 that On friday, Night Bryce harper took his helmet and 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.520 beat the snot out of the bullpen book that dugout 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.840 and couldn't quite fit the helmet back into the bend 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.880 it goes in because he was smashing it so hard in. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:47.520 There so that that's some, intensity that's some. Frustration but, 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.160 YEAH i always think, like if you're not on the, 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:55.040 basis how do you show? Energy you? Know and that's 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.520 What charlie always. Said but you, Know, reuben you might 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.600 you might see something different than than THAN i don't. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.720 SEE i, mean do you do you see intensity? 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.520 THERE i, agree when you're not, HITTING i mean, it 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:07.080 look you look. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.560 FLAT i, mean you don't have things going, on you 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:14.000 don't stealing, bases you're not doing. THINGS i get. That that, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.360 said you've got a group of guys who've gone to the. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:22.000 Postseason they keep everybody keeps saying the same, thing including. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.000 Me ALL us pundits, saying you, know it's a great ball. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.320 Club it's a great ball. Club it's a great ball. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.320 Club it's a playoff, team it's a it's a. Contender 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.320 it's a. Contender you keep, here so naturally you hear 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.200 it in your. Ears as a, player you hear it 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.960 in your, mind and there's some element of you, KNOW 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.200 i don't think they're doing this, consciously Like i'm just 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.320 Gonna we're just gonna toss the gloves out there and 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.080 the bats and the balls and we'll be. Fine BUT 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.760 i think that there's some human nature element of guys 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.920 just going you, know we're everything's. Good we've heard this 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.880 and it's probably. True everybody calm, Down we're gonna be. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.320 Fine we're going to get, better and it's probably. True 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.560 but you just like to see that a, little you, 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.720 know you like to see, them you, know being being fine, earlier. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:13.560 Be fine. 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.000 Now AND i think that's part of what the fans 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.240 are seeing and maybe what you're seeing right. Now these 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.440 guys want to. Win believe, me they want to. Win 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.760 this is a good group of. GUYS i really do 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.480 like these guys and like the fact that they like 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.840 each other and want to play with each, other but 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:31.360 there is. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.040 Always some element of, like you, know we're gonna be. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.879 OKAY i. 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.440 AGREE i think the track records and the talent on that, 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.600 team they are gonna be. OKAY i think. PATIENTS i, 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.840 MEAN i know people don't exactly like that, word especially In. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.520 PHILADELPHIA i think we have a REAL i think we 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.800 view our, team our baseball team through sometimes a football, 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.879 prism and that's, fine BUT i do think you know 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.960 he Wants Once harper starts getting, going he's standing on 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.080 second base pumping his, fist and his uniforms, dirty and 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.439 his sweat and his hair is flying all over the, 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.080 place And turn is running and getting, up that stuff 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.000 will crackle right through the dugout and they'll get. GOING 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.920 i think there's some frustration, early but certainly no. Panic 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:19.919 no panic in these, quarters at least for. 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.960 Me one, Guy jimmy mentioned slow, starts AND i forgot 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.720 to mention. Him AND i think it's interesting because The 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:29.399 phillies made a point to go out and get him 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:34.439 his wit. Marorfield he's really, struggled and not only has he, 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.000 struggled he has not been hitting the ball hard at. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.399 All and you know they signed him to a one, 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.639 year eight million dollar deal because they wanted to provide 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.720 some outfield, depth you, know they wanted to you, know maybe, 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.160 Platoon Brandon marsha and left, field you, know Get Joan 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.399 rojas off his, feet you, know and just not seeing 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.360 really good at bats from, Him and to, me that's 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.639 he's not key. Necessarily it's Like pastiano's or you, know 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.760 the other everyday. Guys but, man you signed him to 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.359 give us some quality of bats and help attudes some. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.240 Guys and you, Know i'm just that's that's another GUY 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.280 i think worth. Watching just not hitting the ball ball 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:11.639 hard at. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:15.800 All, yeah he hasn't gotten a ton of playing time, 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.960 either but you know he's kind of that becomes a 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.840 catch twenty. Two the way to get hot is see 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.280 a bunch of pitches and hit the ball hard and 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.080 have good at. Bats and you, know you need volume 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.120 of at bats to get. Hot it's it's very hard 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.320 to you, know be Dell unser and come off and 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.520 square it up every time or come off the. Bench 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:41.760 but you, know if if marsh keeps keeps swinging, it 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:43.439 it's gonna become more of a. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.560 Conundrum, no, yeah, well and that will be that will 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.639 bring up the question of what are you gonna do 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:54.000 With Johann rojas if he continues to have like okay at. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.040 BATS i, mean it's nice to, contribute but you, know 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:58.560 we talked about a lot is his. 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.280 Aggressiveness he didn't look we all, aggressive and a lot 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.320 of his swing still hitting the ball really. Softly you'll 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.280 hit the ball hard a couple of, times but like 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.600 the eggs of, velocity not. 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.439 Great, NOW i go back to the thought process THAT 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:13.280 i go back on. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.639 With, merrifield AND i thought it was a great signing, 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:20.080 Also but the danger of that is, this and we lived. 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.000 IT i lived it as A gm AND i lived 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:22.880 at as an ASSISTANT. 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.560 Gm you have an everyday player who is now longer 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:33.280 of tooth and now he is relegated to a bench. 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:38.880 Spot let me tell, you, boys it is a different world. 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.760 Being off the bench and having a, rhythm As jim, 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.399 said and being able to put together the at bats 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.320 you want to put together when you're not GETTING i don't, 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:52.720 know thirty at bats a week at least or. Forty 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.120 he ain't getting him and he's not going to get. 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:56.960 Him and the only way he's really going to get 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.320 him if he starts getting, hot and Then rob's going 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.080 to be forced to put him in, there and that's 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.320 a difficult. Thing who is a player that we Signed Alex, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:09.280 gonzalez everyday. Player we decided to try to get him 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.919 to third. Base he was playing shortstop every, DAY i 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:13.919 think with The, cubs and. 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.680 We get him to, play you, know every once in 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:19.800 a while in a platoon. 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.199 Situation was It Abraham, Noon, yes we were good at 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.280 platune him WITH i can't. 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.080 Remember the player to play every. 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:30.120 Day and now he's playing third base but not playing every, 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:31.439 day and he was. 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.800 Terrible AND i Liked alex and he was a good, 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:35.080 player but he couldn't do. 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:40.320 It and some players can't do. It some players are 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:41.360 used to, playing. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.720 You, know you got a routine playing every, day and 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.160 if it and if they can do, it it does 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.439 take them maybe a year or two to make that. 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:49.680 Transition Matt. 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:54.160 CARPENTER i think About Matt, carpenter everyday, player first, baseman 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.200 an all, star could. 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.280