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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Phillies Show with Group of

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow Junior Jim Salisbury. I am todd so lucky. It

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Speaker 1: is Monday, April fifteenth, twenty twenty four. Gentlemen, the Phillies

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Speaker 1: split a weekend series against the Pirates. I think everybody

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Speaker 1: you know Phillies fans for sure went into this Sunday

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Speaker 1: series finale feeling pretty good about their chances to take

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Speaker 1: three out of four. You have Zach Wheeler on the mound,

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Speaker 1: who's been pitching great all year, finally get a nice

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Speaker 1: weather day, so you're thinking, man, maybe the bats finally

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Speaker 1: get going a little bit. And then Zach Wheeler struggles

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Speaker 1: a little bit and the offense really doesn't get going.

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Speaker 1: They lose, so they split that series finale, split the

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Speaker 1: series against the Pirates, and so much talk continues about

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Speaker 1: this offense. Guys. You know Howard Eskin, our dear friend

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Speaker 1: Howard Eskin on Thursday is asking Rob Thompson about the

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Speaker 1: lack of slug and are you gonna slug enough this season?

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Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna make the playoffs, but are

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Speaker 1: you gonna slug enough? And Rob had a great response.

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Speaker 1: He says, wait a second, so you know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but you don't know if we're gonna

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Speaker 1: slug or not, which I thought was which I thought

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Speaker 1: was great because it's so true. You know, you can't

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Speaker 1: have one without the other. In my opinion, this team's

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Speaker 1: hitting like it is right now. Boy, it could be

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Speaker 1: a rough second half. I personally think, like Rob Thompson,

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Speaker 1: they will slug. But I want to ask you guys

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Speaker 1: this question, is there what point of this season or

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Speaker 1: how many had bats into his season do you start

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Speaker 1: to feel like we're getting a picture of what a

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Speaker 1: player can do or what a team can do offense?

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Speaker 1: Will be Jim, what about you? I mean you've interviewed

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Speaker 1: so many you know, managers over the years. Rubin, I

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Speaker 1: mean you played. I mean, whoever wants to get to start.

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Speaker 1: Let's get your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear what you say that'll copy it.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's just I think this is a

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Speaker 3: product of a couple of things. I know that they

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Speaker 3: wanted to get off to a good start and all

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Speaker 3: that other business. They want to do things a little

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Speaker 3: differently in spring training, which they did with the pitchers,

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Speaker 3: but they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Do so with the with the position players.

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Speaker 3: And I think part of it you had they have

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Speaker 3: this sort of built in excuse that they had a virus.

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Speaker 2: Running through you know, running through the clubhouse.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty significant obviously, O'Ryan kirkering just getting back

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Speaker 3: didn't really get They didn't get on the field and

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Speaker 3: start really doing their work until a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: In most cases, like I don't know, eighty or eighty

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Speaker 3: percent of the players that said, I do not think

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Speaker 3: that they got enough at bats, enough competitive at bats,

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Speaker 3: enough playing time, enough chances to run the bases enough.

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Speaker 3: In this day and age, everybody wants to be more

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Speaker 3: and more careful. The players are designing their own.

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Speaker 2: Path for spring training.

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Speaker 3: They all know what they're supposed to do to get ready. Well,

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Speaker 3: guess what, they don't always all know what to do.

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Speaker 2: To get ready for spring training.

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Speaker 3: I believe in my heart of hearts that you've got

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Speaker 3: to get somewhere between sixty and eighty at bats in

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Speaker 3: a games, not in the backfield games.

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Speaker 2: You got to get between.

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Speaker 3: Sixty and eighty at bats, and you've got to get

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Speaker 3: multiple at bats to start getting a rhythm, get your

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Speaker 3: and you need the opportunities to get on the base

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Speaker 2: For three months, baseball is a weird game.

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Speaker 3: You put your spikes on, it's different, it's different on

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Speaker 3: your body, it's different, your eyes different, you on your

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Speaker 3: ability to react. There's all types of things that have

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Speaker 3: to happen. That's why you play the games to get

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Speaker 3: there is such an emphasis on allowing players, they don't

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Speaker 2: Well, guess what. There is a tried and true.

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Speaker 3: Method of getting guys ready, And guess what it is

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Speaker 3: is actually playing the games, getting one at bat and

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Speaker 2: And cutting it. That's like a joke, Okay, a joke

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Speaker 3: Go out there and play five innings in your first

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Speaker 2: Go get ready and go play. And I know people,

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Speaker 2: and I think this is epidemic.

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Speaker 5: This is not just the Phillies or Rob Thompson or

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Speaker 5: an epidemic thing that is happening in baseball.

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Speaker 2: And people are not ready. I've watched Bait all the

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Speaker 2: Bay a lot of baseball this year. It's ugly. There's

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Speaker 2: not great baseball going on. You know who's playing well?

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers, you know what I have.

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Speaker 6: They're playing well because the Dodgers had to play in

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Speaker 6: Japan and they started getting ready earlier.

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Speaker 2: So here here's my take. First of all, they're not

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Speaker 2: They weren't ready to play Number one. Number two.

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to take longer to find out

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Speaker 3: through spring training. In my mind, and I think they're

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Speaker 3: in the asked. I used to assess my team much

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Speaker 3: May fifteenth to May thirtieth, somewhere in there, I knew

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Speaker 3: what my team is. Now, because people don't play, and

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Speaker 3: people don't really get ready and rolling and get enough reps,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what teams. You can't assess them until

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Speaker 3: mid June because that's when you start to find out

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Speaker 3: whether these guys after one hundred and.

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Speaker 2: Fifty at bats or two hundred at bats.

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Speaker 3: That's when you find out what these guys really are

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Speaker 3: and what kind of team you got.

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Speaker 2: That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

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Speaker 7: I mean here in the very interesting points, extremely interesting

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Speaker 7: points almost reminds me a little of what we're hearing

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Speaker 7: about the NFL. Ow preseason has become irrelevant in the

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Speaker 7: first handful of games are like extended preseason. The reason

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Speaker 7: you see some sloppy play, etc. Guys still getting their legs.

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Speaker 7: Hear that all the time time in the NFL. I

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Speaker 7: would pick that or the new NFL, I should say,

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Speaker 7: the way it's evolved with the de emphasis of preseason,

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Speaker 7: I'm wondering they've played sixteen games based on your observations, room,

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Speaker 7: and that's just under ten percent of the season. Do

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Speaker 7: you think, I mean, if this is sort of an

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Speaker 7: bit fortunate to be at the midwater mark eight and

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Speaker 7: eight while you're still getting your legs in quote unquote

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Speaker 7: extended spring training. Do you think those sixteen games, these

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Speaker 7: past sixteen games have been good prepper? Are we going

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Speaker 7: to see them start to get going soon?

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Speaker 2: Here? I think they'll get better. They're too talented. There's

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Speaker 6: I mean, you got guys like schore, Bert Turner, Harper,

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Speaker 6: Castiano's boom Stot. They're really talented, super talented players. I

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Speaker 6: just don't know that they were in rhythm.

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Speaker 3: Like I believe that you have to go through different

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Speaker 3: stages in spring training. You get your legs underneath you, you

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Speaker 3: get your hands going with the bat, you get your

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Speaker 3: timing going, you get hot, you get cold, you get

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Speaker 3: hot again, and then the season starts. That's the rhythm

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Speaker 3: of spring training for me, for everyday players. I've watched

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Speaker 3: it too many times. I know how it works.

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Speaker 6: If you get enough at bats and you get enough

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Speaker 6: reps and you get enough times on the basis they

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Speaker 6: are not running the base as well, they're a better

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Speaker 6: based running team.

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Speaker 2: Than they are.

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Speaker 6: They're not a superb running based running team because sometimes

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Speaker 3: But they're much better than what I've seen, and I

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Speaker 3: know they can steal bases, but they're a better overall

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Speaker 3: based running team when it comes to going first and third,

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Speaker 3: making decisions.

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Speaker 2: Not getting picked off.

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Speaker 6: But all those things you have to go through in

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Speaker 6: It's just, you know, there's not a lot of teams

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Speaker 6: get twenty six players all of a sudden go Okay,

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Speaker 6: here's here's a switch.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna plick it on and go play. There's only

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Speaker 3: a few guys you can do that. Some guys can,

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Speaker 3: some guys can't, but most cannot.

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Speaker 2: And so I think that they're a better team than this.

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Speaker 2: There's no question in my mind. I do think the

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Speaker 2: pitching has been excellent. I really do. It's just not

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Speaker 7: They've been sloppy. They've been sloppy in the field as well,

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Speaker 7: which I think fits into what you're saying about reps

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Speaker 7: and being ready to go. That's why I think very

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Speaker 7: fortunate to be eight and eight ten percent of the

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Speaker 7: the cliche a better version of the Phillies soon. Anybody

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Speaker 7: Todd surprised you slow start wise? I mean, Harper's off

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Speaker 7: to a slow start. What's your take on me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Harper surprises me, just because it's Bryce Harper. You know,

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Speaker 1: Bryson stops off to a slow start. He got off

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Speaker 1: I think the last season he opened with like a

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Speaker 1: sixteen game hitting streak. He's off to a slow start. Castianis,

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Speaker 1: of course off to a slow start. It was interesting

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Speaker 1: the last night I'm thinking about this because there is

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Speaker 1: so much from fans anyway, not not panic, but just

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Speaker 1: they can't hit. They can't hit, And I went on,

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Speaker 1: I looked up some players last night to see how

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Speaker 1: they compare to other players in the big leagues. Like

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, for instance, he has a six seventy four OPS.

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Speaker 1: Guys just below him right now, Nolan Aernato, George Springer,

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Speaker 1: Corbyn Carroll, Alex Bregman, all having worst starts. In Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 1: Bryce and Stotts six' ten, Ops Randy, Rose, Arena Xander,

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Speaker 1: Bogart's Cody, Bellinger Paul goldschmidt all having worse. Starts nick

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Speaker 1: off worst, Start Francisco lindor is off to a worst.

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Speaker 1: Start SO i feel like Sometimes phillies fans certainly they

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Speaker 1: look at everything as it relates to The phillies and

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily realize that it's also going on. Elsewhere so

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Speaker 1: don't hit that panic button. Yet But, ruben it's. Funny

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Speaker 1: while you were talking about spring training at bats and

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Speaker 1: you said sixty to, EIGHTY i looked it. Up your

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Speaker 1: head might explode. Here but twenty Five bryce And scott

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Speaker 1: led The phillies this spring at. Bats fifty five at,

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Speaker 1: bats thank, you, Yes. Rojas at one POINT i thought

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Speaker 1: he was going to finish with. Eighty he only finished

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Speaker 1: with fifty. Three you, know every every other, regular every

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Speaker 1: other everyday player for The phillies was had fewer than

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Speaker 1: fifty at bats this. Spring not a, lot you, know

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Speaker 1: not a lot a lot of those.

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Speaker 3: Guys so the SO i think what you would hear

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Speaker 3: from the hitting coach and From rob is, well they

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Speaker 3: got a bunch of you, know played appearances and at

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Speaker 3: bats in the minor.

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Speaker 2: Leagues when they stayed, back they.

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Speaker 3: Got you, know and they got it is not the.

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Speaker 6: Same it's not the. Same there's no there's there is no.

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Speaker 6: Motivation you're not it's you're just seeing.

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Speaker 2: Not you have to play.

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Speaker 4: Baseball to be ready to play baseball in no other,

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Speaker 3: Game you have to play the games to. Develop that's

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Speaker 2: Play supposed to play a. Lot now that's another whole, story.

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Speaker 3: RIGHT i don't understand how they're bringing guys to the

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Speaker 2: Leagues they're extraordinary. ATHLETES i get. It it's. Wonderful they're

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Speaker 2: It but you got to play the. Game you got

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Speaker 6: Game you got to play the game to experience all

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Speaker 2: Game base running, situations the.

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Speaker 2: And an a, game a major league.

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Speaker 3: Terms of getting ready for a spring training major league,

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Speaker 3: i don't care how many seasons you. PLAYED i don't

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Speaker 3: for the. Games it's not like riding a.

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Speaker 2: Bike and it's a.

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Speaker 7: Long long held. Truism there is no substitute for game,

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Speaker 7: on the, radio he was wondering where the intensity. Was

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Speaker 7: not seeing enough? INTENSITY i, mean he played the game

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Speaker 7: you see it enough? Intensity or is? It sometimes when

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Speaker 7: you're just not getting on, base you lack the. Energy

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Speaker 7: when you're not, hitting you lack the. Energy it doesn't

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Speaker 7: look like you're showing. Intense it's that age old, question

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Speaker 1: Seeing? Tom, yeah you, KNOW i always go back To

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Speaker 1: Charlie manuel had some of the best offenses in baseball

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Speaker 1: they would go into. Ruts people would, Say, charlie your

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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna be. Flat you know you're gonna look.

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Speaker 1: Flat there's no action on the. Basis SO i never

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Speaker 1: that On friday, Night Bryce harper took his helmet and

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Speaker 1: There so that that's some, intensity that's some. Frustration but,

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Speaker 1: YEAH i always think, like if you're not on the,

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Speaker 1: basis how do you show? Energy you? Know and that's

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Speaker 1: What charlie always. Said but you, Know, reuben you might

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Speaker 1: you might see something different than than THAN i don't.

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Speaker 1: SEE i, mean do you do you see intensity?

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Speaker 2: THERE i, agree when you're not, HITTING i mean, it

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Speaker 3: FLAT i, mean you don't have things going, on you

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Speaker 3: don't stealing, bases you're not doing. THINGS i get. That that,

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Speaker 3: said you've got a group of guys who've gone to the.

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Speaker 3: Postseason they keep everybody keeps saying the same, thing including.

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Speaker 3: Me ALL us pundits, saying you, know it's a great ball.

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Speaker 3: Club it's a great ball. Club it's a great ball.

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Speaker 3: Club it's a playoff, team it's a it's a. Contender

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Speaker 3: it's a. Contender you keep, here so naturally you hear

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Speaker 3: it in your. Ears as a, player you hear it

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Speaker 3: in your, mind and there's some element of you, KNOW

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Speaker 3: i don't think they're doing this, consciously Like i'm just

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Speaker 3: Gonna we're just gonna toss the gloves out there and

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Speaker 3: the bats and the balls and we'll be. Fine BUT

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Speaker 3: i think that there's some human nature element of guys

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Speaker 3: just going you, know we're everything's. Good we've heard this

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Speaker 3: and it's probably. True everybody calm, Down we're gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Fine we're going to get, better and it's probably. True

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Speaker 3: but you just like to see that a, little you,

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Speaker 3: know you like to see, them you, know being being fine, earlier.

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Speaker 2: Be fine.

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Speaker 3: Now AND i think that's part of what the fans

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Speaker 3: guys want to. Win believe, me they want to. Win

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Speaker 3: this is a good group of. GUYS i really do

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Speaker 2: Always some element of, like you, know we're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: OKAY i.

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Speaker 7: AGREE i think the track records and the talent on that,

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Speaker 7: team they are gonna be. OKAY i think. PATIENTS i,

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Speaker 7: MEAN i know people don't exactly like that, word especially In.

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Speaker 7: PHILADELPHIA i think we have a REAL i think we

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Speaker 7: prism and that's, fine BUT i do think you know

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Speaker 7: he Wants Once harper starts getting, going he's standing on

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Speaker 7: will crackle right through the dugout and they'll get. GOING

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Speaker 7: i think there's some frustration, early but certainly no. Panic

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Speaker 7: no panic in these, quarters at least for.

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Speaker 1: Me one, Guy jimmy mentioned slow, starts AND i forgot

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Speaker 1: to mention. Him AND i think it's interesting because The

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Speaker 1: phillies made a point to go out and get him

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Speaker 1: his wit. Marorfield he's really, struggled and not only has he,

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Speaker 1: All and you know they signed him to a one,

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Speaker 1: year eight million dollar deal because they wanted to provide

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Speaker 1: Platoon Brandon marsha and left, field you, know Get Joan

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Speaker 1: rojas off his, feet you, know and just not seeing

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Speaker 1: really good at bats from, Him and to, me that's

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Speaker 1: he's not key. Necessarily it's Like pastiano's or you, know

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Speaker 1: the other everyday. Guys but, man you signed him to

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Speaker 1: Guys and you, Know i'm just that's that's another GUY

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Speaker 1: i think worth. Watching just not hitting the ball ball

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Speaker 7: All, yeah he hasn't gotten a ton of playing time,

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Speaker 7: either but you know he's kind of that becomes a

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Speaker 7: catch twenty. Two the way to get hot is see

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Speaker 7: a bunch of pitches and hit the ball hard and

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Speaker 7: have good at. Bats and you, know you need volume

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Speaker 7: of at bats to get. Hot it's it's very hard

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Speaker 7: to you, know be Dell unser and come off and

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Speaker 7: square it up every time or come off the. Bench

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Speaker 7: but you, know if if marsh keeps keeps swinging, it

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Speaker 7: it's gonna become more of a.

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Speaker 3: Conundrum, no, yeah, well and that will be that will

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Speaker 3: bring up the question of what are you gonna do

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Speaker 3: With Johann rojas if he continues to have like okay at.

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Speaker 2: BATS i, mean it's nice to, contribute but you, know

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Speaker 2: we talked about a lot is his.

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Speaker 3: Aggressiveness he didn't look we all, aggressive and a lot

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Speaker 3: the eggs of, velocity not.

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Speaker 2: Great, NOW i go back to the thought process THAT

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Speaker 3: With, merrifield AND i thought it was a great signing,

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Speaker 3: Also but the danger of that is, this and we lived.

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Speaker 2: IT i lived it as A gm AND i lived

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Speaker 2: at as an ASSISTANT.

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Speaker 3: Gm you have an everyday player who is now longer

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Speaker 3: of tooth and now he is relegated to a bench.

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Speaker 2: Spot let me tell, you, boys it is a different world.

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Speaker 3: Being off the bench and having a, rhythm As jim,

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Speaker 3: said and being able to put together the at bats

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Speaker 3: you want to put together when you're not GETTING i don't,

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Speaker 3: know thirty at bats a week at least or. Forty

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Speaker 3: he ain't getting him and he's not going to get.

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Speaker 3: Him and the only way he's really going to get

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Speaker 3: him if he starts getting, hot and Then rob's going

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Speaker 3: to be forced to put him in, there and that's

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Speaker 3: a difficult. Thing who is a player that we Signed Alex,

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Speaker 3: gonzalez everyday. Player we decided to try to get him

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Speaker 3: to third. Base he was playing shortstop every, DAY i

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Speaker 3: think with The, cubs and.

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Speaker 2: We get him to, play you, know every once in

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Speaker 2: a while in a platoon.

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Speaker 3: Situation was It Abraham, Noon, yes we were good at

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Speaker 3: platune him WITH i can't.

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Speaker 2: Remember the player to play every.

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Speaker 3: Day and now he's playing third base but not playing every,

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Speaker 3: day and he was.

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Speaker 2: Terrible AND i Liked alex and he was a good,

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Speaker 2: player but he couldn't do.

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Speaker 6: It and some players can't do. It some players are

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Speaker 6: used to, playing.

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Speaker 3: You, know you got a routine playing every, day and

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Speaker 3: if it and if they can do, it it does

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Speaker 3: take them maybe a year or two to make that.

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Speaker 2: Transition Matt.

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Speaker 3: CARPENTER i think About Matt, carpenter everyday, player first, baseman

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Speaker 3: an all, star could.

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Speaker 2: Really rake and then things starts slowing up for. Him

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Speaker 2: now he's in a you, know D h, slash you know.

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Speaker 2: Whatever he's not the same.

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Speaker 1: Player it's.

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Speaker 3: Harder it's hard to have rhythm and to be that

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Speaker 3: guy who can get off the. Bench lenny not not

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Speaker 3: that Many Lenny harris is out there and can sit

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Speaker 3: around and just you, know for nine innings and go

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Speaker 3: out there and whack.

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Speaker 2: One it just doesn't, happen and that transition may take some.

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Speaker 2: TIME i think.

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Speaker 3: He's athletic, enough good enough, player baseball, player all that,

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Speaker 3: stuff that he will finally make the.

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Speaker 2: Adjustment but it is an, adjustment AND.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's something that he's you, know that

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Speaker 3: The phillies are shorter than he is dealing.

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Speaker 1: With we've talked a lot About, rojas And Kevin long

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Speaker 1: said something On friday. AFTERNOON i was chatting with him

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Speaker 1: about the slow start and the same. Thing he's, Like

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be. Fine haven't hit in the best. Weather

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Speaker 1: it's gonna get it. Going BUT i asked him specifically About,

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Speaker 1: rojas since we've talked so much about, him and he,

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Speaker 1: SAID i, said how's his? Mindset his mindset finds that houses.

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Speaker 1: Mechanics he, Goes i'm not talking about his mechanics, anymore

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Speaker 1: and he's not talking about his mechanics. Anymore we want

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Speaker 1: him just to go out there and. Compete he says

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Speaker 1: he's been tentative on the basis he's been tentative on

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Speaker 1: the field in the, outfield and he's been tentative at the.

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Speaker 1: Plate so now it's no more mechanics. Time it is

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Speaker 1: now compete. Time so kind of and which is like

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Speaker 1: dead on what you guys. SAID i think the last

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Speaker 1: that batter's box is trying to, compete and they're at

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00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: that point With Johann. Rojas we'll see if he can

435
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: eventually get it.

436
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 7: Going that's been a consistent theme here on The Todd.

437
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 7: Pod don't, overthink want, React AND i, mean you, know

438
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 7: look at athletes these. Days you, know look at.

439
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: An old team.

440
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 7: Picture he used to be like three, coaches four, coaches

441
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 7: not even a dozen or, So and in every sports it's.

442
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 7: Hard you wonder if these guys are getting over engineered

443
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 7: and and just not. Reacting so it is you, know

444
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 7: Maybe rojas just by, reacting we'll play.

445
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: Better.

446
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: YEAH i just think that there's too much.

447
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 6: Information there's too, much, right too much information is a

448
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 6: hard enough. Game sometimes you just it's great to have some,

449
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 6: information BUT i think they're.

450
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: Just being fed different types of. INFORMATION i think this

451
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 2: is a global with. Baseball this is a global. Thing.

452
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 3: Man there's there's people who are have you've, been have

453
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 3: been employed to do certain things in the game that

454
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: we're never necessary before. Ever and NOW i think that

455
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: they think that the athletes are so much better and

456
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: the game's being played in such a different way that

457
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 3: you need all this other. Stuff, well guess, what at

458
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 3: the end of the, day you got to see. It

459
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: you got to hit it when they hit the ball to,

460
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: you you got to catch. It when you catch, it

461
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: you got to throw.

462
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: It when you're on the.

463
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 2: Mound you got to pitch it to a. Spot it's

464
00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: really pretty.

465
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: Sick there's a lot more going on with your body

466
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: and your mechanics and your biomechanics.

467
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: And all the other.

468
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: Stuff but at the end of the, day it's still

469
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: a game of, baseball and it can't be played in

470
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: a robotic fashion or you get you're not going to get.

471
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: Baseball you're not going to get the athleticism.

472
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: That these young men now. Have and that's what you.

473
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: Want that's what you. Want you want to see their athleticism.

474
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 7: Play one thing that is not over engineered is this.

475
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 7: Podcast todd's microphone broke minute before we were going to,

476
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 7: start and and he's he's a gamer. Man he's carrying.

477
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: On not only, that But jim has now embarrassed me

478
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: into getting everybody new. Equipment so that's What i'm going

479
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: to have to do because he Thinks i'm.

480
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: A, bazillionaire which is of, course is a. Lie But i'll.

481
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: Tie you, up you, know you poor. Babies i'll tell.

482
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: You mine should still be under. WARRANTY i Just boughton sent.

483
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: Me just send me your text you, know text me

484
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: your addresses.

485
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: And i'll have you, know some some entity sent to

486
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: you sometime.

487
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 7: Soon so, today today Is April fifteenth's a great day

488
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 7: in the baseball. Calendar It's Jackie Robinson. Day and you,

489
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 7: KNOW i was blessed with a dad who loved. Baseball

490
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 7: and you, know not only did he get out in

491
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 7: the yard and coach all that. Stuff if you told

492
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 7: me about baseball history and how Important Jackie robinson was,

493
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 7: SUGGESTED i think WHEN i was in like fourth, GRADE

494
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 7: i do a book report on. Him And i've always

495
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 7: had great appreciation For Jackie. Robinson what does it mean to,

496
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 7: You Todd Jackie robinson?

497
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: Day? Boy you, know, WELL i WoT want to say

498
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: this About Jackie, robinsonday BECAUSE i was just thinking about.

499
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: This i'm covering an event today At Citizens Bank. Park

500
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: they are and are you a part of? This this event?

501
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: Today it's he And. Pinstripes they're doing a very cool

502
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: display at the. BALLPARK i believe it's on in The

503
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: hall Of fame, level some. Photos just an honoring of

504
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: The African american players that kind of paved the way in,

505
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: color all, players all players of, color including your, Dad John,

506
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: kennedy the First phillies. Player he will be have a

507
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: permanent place now A Citizen Bank, Park and you, know

508
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: it's just cool to see. THAT i think The phillies

509
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: do a really good job recognizing their. History that was

510
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: one thing they had not necessarily recognized up until this. Point,

511
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: RUBIN i, mean can you tell me a little bit

512
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: more about it prep me for my What i'm going

513
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: to walk into.

514
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: Today, yeah, Well i'm gonna chat a little bit about.

515
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: It and it's an honor to have been asked by

516
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: The phillies to talk a little bit about it at some.

517
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: Point there's a whole lineup of folks THAT.

518
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: I think whose families and members of their families will

519
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: talk about.

520
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: THEM i don't know all the, name SO i don't

521
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: have him in front of.

522
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: ME i probably.

523
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Should that, said me and my brother will be there

524
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: sort of representing my.

525
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: Father my Brother, david and you, know it's it is

526
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 2: a big.

527
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: Deal it did take The phillies a long, time last

528
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: team to have someone of color basically in the NATIONALLY

529
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: i don't know if it was The National league Or

530
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: National league to have someone of color play for, them

531
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: and so that's not. Great but that, said it, happened

532
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: and it was a long time, ago but there was

533
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: an influx of particularly of The Latin american.

534
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Players you start thinking about some of the players that

535
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: came and. Played Cookie rojas Was.

536
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: Cuban you Had Tony, taylor you had my Dad mexican

537
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: And cuban you Had.

538
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm Sure Tony.

539
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: Gonzalez Tony gonzalez was a player during the. Sixties it

540
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: was big.

541
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: POWER i think it was a big. POWER i think

542
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: was was He Puerto? RICAN i think he. WAS i

543
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: don't have all the. HISTORY i WISH i knew more of,

544
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: it but it does mean a.

545
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: Lot and, UH i, MEAN i have tons of stories

546
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: about the fact that it was tough for. People it

547
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: was tough for my dad in the minor leagues when

548
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: he signed with The Saint Louis cardinals before he was traded.

549
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: Over to The.

550
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: Phillies. Uh he had a tough go.

551
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: Man he played in The Dixie, league played In texas

552
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: Leg he played in a bunch of leagues that he

553
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: couldn't eat in the same places as his white. Counterparts

554
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: he could not stay in the same. Hotels not good,

555
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: man and he had to endure some.

556
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: Stuff what did he ever in the big? Leagues did

557
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: he early on when he made the big?

558
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: Leagues just in, uh just in spring.

559
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: Training in spring, training there was an issue WHERE i

560
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: think it Was Fort Harrison hotel where The phillies could

561
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: not Did they would not house people of, color and

562
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: The phillies basically had to stay well out In, tampa

563
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: so they had a. Disperse it's kind of, shitty but that's.

564
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: Life that's how it was. Then now The Fort harrison

565
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: is run by the by the.

566
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: Scientologists so is it all that?

567
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 8: Different uh uh we, digress BUT i will say that.

568
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: That it's meaningful for me and my.

569
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: FAMILY i take a lot of pride in the fact

570
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: that my dad was a man and a player of,

571
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: color and, uh it's it's an awesome thing to at

572
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: least be honored and at least have the a little

573
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: bit of the stories.

574
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 7: Told, yeah well WE i was lucky enough to know your.

575
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 7: Dad AND i mean a great, man a great baseball.

576
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 7: Man And i'm JUST i Think Jackie Robinson day is

577
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 7: one of the best THINGS mlb has ever done because

578
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 7: his his impact really transcends. Baseball and, uh if you

579
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 7: watch some of the documentary and just an amazing, man

580
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 7: and it'll be good to see all those forty two's out.

581
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 6: There it's.

582
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 7: FUNNY i always WHEN i see forty, two like on

583
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 7: a hockey player or another, SPORT i always kind of

584
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 7: wonder if he selected that number out of respect For Jackie.

585
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 7: Robinson so it's it's it's just a really special day

586
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 7: on the baseball. CALENDAR i CAN i remember remember the

587
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 7: year The expos played down In Puerto. Rico they played

588
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 7: like three or four series down In Puerto. RICO i

589
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 7: went down to one of, them and the there was

590
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 7: like a, clinic baseball clinic run by the sons Of Roberto. Clement, yes,

591
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 7: yes sons of The Alamar boys were there And Sharon

592
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 7: robinson was, there AND i remember speaking with her and just, Thinking,

593
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 7: wow this is really. Cool As Roberto clent's, Boys i'm

594
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 7: talking To Sharon. Robinson it was, like if you appreciate

595
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 7: baseball history and you know history in, general it was really.

596
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: SPECIAL i, mean think about What Jackie robinson had to, endure.

597
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: MAN i, mean.

598
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: You, know people talk about What Hank aaron had to

599
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: go through when he was getting to seven point. FIFTEEN i,

600
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: mean think about What Jackie robinson had to deal.

601
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: WITH i, mean he had a whole world on top

602
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: of his.

603
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: Shoulders it's.

604
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 7: Incredible and that's if you ever visit The Negro League

605
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 7: museum In Kansas, city WHICH i. Have in, FACT i

606
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 7: went With andrew McCutcheon and wrote a story about. It

607
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 7: it was one of the thrills of my career going.

608
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 7: There but the gentleman who runs The Negro League's museum

609
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 7: is a guy Named Bob, kendrick and he gives a

610
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 7: great tour of the place and he talks about Why

611
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 7: Jackie robinson, was you, know the guy That Branch tricky

612
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 7: wanted and had so much to do with his life

613
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 7: experience and his character and the fact that, yes it

614
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 7: was going to be a weight on. Him but this

615
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 7: was the guy that could handle. IT i would recommend

616
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 7: that visit to.

617
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: Anyone and and there was Some jackie was a really

618
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: really great, player but not the best.

619
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: Black player there was and. Thereat BUT i think that

620
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: that you're.

621
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: RIGHT i think that he had the mental makeup to

622
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: be able to handle the pressures of being the.

623
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 7: Guy he was a little bit, older and and he

624
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 7: was the guy That Bran tricky, tabbed and you, know

625
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 7: Thank god for, him no.

626
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: Doubt, well, guys let's look ahead real quick before we

627
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: get out of.

628
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: Here, hey CAN i say one thing About andrew school

629
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: is at About andrew hitting at the three hundred uniform

630
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: in a well in A pirates uniform at The phillies.

631
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 7: Awesome he was a uh you, know when you cover

632
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 7: baseball and you know you got a lot of, guys

633
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 7: there are certain guys when you look back at your,

634
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 7: career or even you look back at a, season you, say you,

635
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 7: KNOW i was really lucky to get to know that

636
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 7: guy and cover that. Guy you know me guys like.

637
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 7: It But andrew McCutcheon is definitely one of those guys

638
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 7: that MAKES i would bet makes every baseball writers, list

639
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 7: just a quality human, being a good, guy, accountable good.

640
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 7: PLAYER i love watching the way he gets that bad

641
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 7: head out when he gets a hanger.

642
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: Boom he knows how to use that bad. Head. Still

643
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys when you see him walk

644
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: through the, clubhouse there's a presence about, him, RIGHT i,

645
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: mean just he carries handsome gravitas about him when you

646
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: see him in the, field in the, dugout in the.

647
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Clubhouse so The, Phillies, Philly Philly's, uh this isn't great

648
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: opportunity for The. Phillies we've talked a lot about slow

649
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: starts and easing getting getting things. Rolling, man this is

650
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: the week to get things. Rolling And, RUBEN i know

651
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: you've said. IT a lot of people say. It anybody

652
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: that puts on a big league uniform is a big.

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Speaker 1: Leader AND i totally understand what you mean by. That

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00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: these are two, teams The phillies opening a three game

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00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: series tonight against The. Rockies they played The White sox

656
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: over the weekend three game. Series rockies third worst run

657
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: differential in, Baseball White sox worst run differential in. Baseball

658
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: both teams have been getting pounded all season. Long this

659
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: is this is this is a. Week this is the

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Speaker 1: week for them for them to get. Rolling do you not?

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Speaker 3: AGREE i think it's a. DISASTER i will say. THIS

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00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: i think it's a disaster if they don't win four

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00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: games out of the, sixth simple.

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Speaker 1: Agree so a disaster in the third week Of.

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Speaker 3: April not, disaster but it would be a gross underachievement

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00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: to not beat for before out of.

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00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: SIX i, mean you got to clean up on. This

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00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: you got to play better.

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Speaker 3: Baseball AND i know baseball, baseball but you got to

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00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: take one game at a. Time as you, Know, todd

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Speaker 3: you know you can tell you drop all of the

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00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: cliches you. Want but talent, wise there's no contest here

673
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: and it needs to be and it needs to be.

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00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 3: Enforced they need to enforce their greatness on these two, teams.

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00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 7: But even more, so even more so than the opponent

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Speaker 7: and cleaning up on the opponent and making Hay on

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Speaker 7: a bad. Opponent phillies need to catch the ball. Better

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00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 7: phillies need to run the bases. Better offense needs to thaw.

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00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 7: Out they need to Get Zach wheeler some. Support there's

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00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 7: things that they can take care of that are just

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00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 7: specific to The. Phillies you, know kind of clean up

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Speaker 7: your own shop before you worry about taking it out

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00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 7: on somebody. ELSE i, mean there's regardless of the, opponent

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00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 7: there's there's areas they need to get, better but, hey

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Speaker 7: the fact of the matter is they're playing two week.

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Speaker 7: Teams just be careful With.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Charlie.

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Speaker 7: Blackman it seems like every time he comes To Citizens

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Speaker 7: Bank park he breaks three chairs in right.

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Speaker 2: Field he's a good. Player he's been a good player

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Speaker 2: for a long.

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00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: TIME i know he's getting older and but but he

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00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: can still do some damage.

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Speaker 2: Outside everybody, says, well you can't hit other Than.

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Speaker 1: Colorado that's not.

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Speaker 2: True it's.

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Speaker 9: Here the other guy you gotta be, scared you gotta

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Speaker 9: be leary of is a kid Named Nolan, jones A

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Speaker 9: philadelphia product from From Holy Ghost PREP hgp and from

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Speaker 9: The Philly bandits wonderful, kid tremendous athlete who had a

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Speaker 9: phenomenal year last.

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Speaker 2: YEAR i mean he was fifth In rookie of The,

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00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: year third or something crazy number and he only played

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00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: what three quarters of the season or two thirds of the.

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00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 2: Season this kid can do some things, now and he'll

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Speaker 2: be in his. Hometown he'll have four hundred thousand. Tickets

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00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: but he's a good. Player. Man you got to hold

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00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: him down. Too he's not he's struggle a little. Bit

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Speaker 2: he's in like two hundred right, now but they got

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Speaker 2: to hold him down.

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Speaker 7: Too just a phenomenal baseball. Name Nolan jones is a baseball,

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Speaker 7: name or.

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Speaker 3: Try and you talk about being a, wonderful humble. KID

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Speaker 3: i just digress a little bit on this. Kid he

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Speaker 3: is a spectacular. Kid and if you stand next to,

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Speaker 3: him you, go oh my. God he's the largest human

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Speaker 3: Being i've ever.

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Speaker 1: Seen he's six,' five he's all, of it.

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Speaker 3: With a, beautiful swing, runs well plays well, in defense,

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Speaker 3: good player and is.

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Speaker 7: His brother like a, hockey goalie a professional hockey goalie

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Speaker 7: is the annual.

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Speaker 1: Hockey reference i'm.

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Speaker 2: Not sure don't.

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Speaker 1: QUOTE me i thought. HE was i think you just

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Speaker 1: want him to be a, WELL guys i. Appreciate it

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Speaker 1: thank you. So much thanks to everybody. For, listening listen

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get this audio Fixed that ruben has promised this,

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Speaker 1: very expensive, high performance VERY high i mean we're gonna,

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Speaker 1: be like you're gonna feel like we're in the living room,

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Speaker 1: with you in the car with you. Next time so

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Speaker 1: thanks everybody for listening and Watching The Philly Show. Hockey

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Speaker 1: later Smell your smell, You, Later ruben, smell you