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Speaker 1: two two two eight two on the phone lines. Hillary

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Speaker 1: This is what we need to know here, friends, because

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Speaker 1: It was all bullcrap. Okay, This was a political dirty

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Speaker 1: only to send some of his assaiates to prison for

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Speaker 1: means used to undermine the Trump presidency, to slow down

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Speaker 1: the Trump presidency, and effectively, the process of the Special

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Speaker 1: Council was the punishment. The process was the punishment. You

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Speaker 1: Muller and Rachel Maddow among others, built whole careers. It

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Speaker 1: seemed for years on this having to do with the Kremlin,

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Speaker 1: want to tell you right now it was all a lie.

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Speaker 1: There was no Trump Russia collusion. It never existed, and

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Speaker 1: you've known that for a while. The Mueller probe obviously

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Speaker 1: we have the additional information of Hillary Clinton. This is

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Speaker 1: not only are they Democrat propagandists on this issue, in

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Speaker 1: Popped open the newspaper right there, Hillary Clinton did It

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Speaker 1: We played earlier, CNNs Brian Stelter saying, Hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: other issue because all of you out there, I talked

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Speaker 1: this inflation hit is so significant that even CNN's not

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Speaker 1: able to ignore it, and they're asking a question that

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Speaker 1: is how did the Biden administration get things so wrong

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Speaker 1: on inflation? Again, this is CNN, listen, and how did

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Speaker 1: the administration get that so long? Look, a lot of

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Speaker 1: things have changed over the course the last a year,

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Speaker 1: and we've dealt with a lot of unexpected challenges, as

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Speaker 1: for the American people to understand right now is they

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Speaker 1: Now we weren't. And I'm not to say not to

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Speaker 1: don't have to be a great mind. This is obvious.

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Speaker 1: Biden administration comes in, They're like, yeah, let's just spend

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Speaker 1: Party got going because the Obama administration just decided, yeah,

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Speaker 1: trillions to stabilize the economy during COVID, and they just figured, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: to spend as we've talked about, five trillion over ten years.

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Speaker 1: Additionally on top of that and get that spending started.

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Speaker 1: This is the exact cause of inflation. It is as

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Speaker 1: though the Biden administration is sitting there saying, this is

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Speaker 1: so weird. We didn't leave the couch for six months,

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Speaker 1: of course they did. I think that might even be

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Speaker 1: spend five trillion dollars on builback better And by the way,

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Speaker 1: In addition to all the COVID spending that was going on,

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Speaker 1: us back into yet another yet another recession. Again, all

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Speaker 1: of this was eminently foreseeable, and it wasn't just Republicans

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Speaker 1: there are guys out there, Buck, who will say inflation

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Speaker 1: And it's almost impossible to dial this genie back in

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Speaker 1: just as we see with the border where the blocking

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Speaker 1: of today is still not letting them. Yes, saving Democrats

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Speaker 1: to play out. And speaking out of Democrats, Bill Maher,

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Speaker 1: that he might be getting close taste of it. We'll

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