1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to Real America's Voice. This is Sunday the Road Forward. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Stay with us as we discuss the intersection of faith, culture, 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: and everyday life. We have an incredible lineup with a 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: word of hope and encouragement for you and those you loved, 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: especially in these challenging and wild times. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I'll be your host our special guest joining us this week. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: He's dynamic pastor, movie producer, author, civil rights activist, and 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: television personality. President of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference. 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: Pastor Sam Rodriguez is back with us and he is 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: a licensed clinical psychologist. He served in the US House 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: of Representatives representing Pennsylvania's eighteenth Congressional district. Doctor Tim Murphy 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: is back with us. He's President of American Values and 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Senior vice president for Public Policy for the Doctor James 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Dobbinson Family Institute. Gary Bauers with us, and he directed 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: and wrote A Great Awakening, a historical drama detailing the 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: unlikely friendship between evangelist George Whitfield and Benjamin Franklin. It's 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: in the box office right now. Joshua ank is with this. 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for watching. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: Him. Cristy Love Sworthy. 20 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Well, it's been a wild week in America and around 21 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: the world, just off the heels of Easter and the 22 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: Easter egg roll event at the White House, which by 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: the way, was a strong contrast to last administration's Day 24 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: of transgender Recognition of whatever. On Easter, all eyes turned 25 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: toward the Middle East and Iran. President Trump sent a 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: stern ultimatum with the deadline of eight pm Tuesday night 27 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: of this week before he was going to drop the 28 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: hammer on Iran, and the world rejoiced with a two 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: week double sided ceasefire. Iran confirmed that it will open 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuse for safe passage. President Trump is 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic. Trump said the two week period will be 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: used to finalize a possible long term peace deal with Iran, 33 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: and the negotiations are very far along. We all need 34 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: to pray for a complete resolution and for peace. And 35 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: while faith is back in America, there are growing concerns 36 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: about what Americans believe. Christian researcher George Barne has documented 37 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: the crisis of faith and hope in America culture. Right now, 38 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: only six percent of American adults hold to a quote 39 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: biblical worldview fifty eight percent of Americans reject the notion 40 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: of absolute right and wrong. Fewer than one in four 41 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: American adults attend church weekly, and he found that fifty 42 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: six percent of gen Z adults report experiencing regular bouts 43 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: of anxiety, depression, and crippling fear in the past year. 44 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: That's pretty alarming. Hey, let's all pray that the mighty 45 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: hand of God will continue moving in our midst. Here's 46 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: a great burst to hold on to from the Bible 47 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: this week, Proverbs twenty nine, verse twenty five. The fear 48 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: of man will prove to be a snare, But whoever 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: trusts in the Lord is kept safe. Hold on as 50 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: we jump heedfirst into our discussion here on Sunday, the 51 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: road forward. I'm gonna pray, We're gonna get started. God 52 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: be with us, bless our time together. Use this for 53 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: your glory. 54 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: God. 55 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: We pray that you would guide in all the affairs 56 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: of what's happening in our world. God, show yourself, reveal yourself. 57 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Our hope. Our trust is in you. I pray in 58 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: the strong name of Jesus. Amen, let's get started. 59 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 60 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a 61 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: part of your life. 62 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: Joyce. Now Samuel Adrigez. He's the president of the National 63 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, the world's largest Hispanic Christian organization, 64 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: and he's lead pastor New Season Church in Sacramento, California. 65 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Pastor Sam, welcome back. Thank you for joining me. 66 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: Good to be with you, my friend. Thank you for 67 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: having me. 68 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Sam. Earlier this week, everybody was dialed in Tuesday night, 69 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: what's going to happen at eight pm? President Trump meant business. 70 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: Everybody knew it, and hey, we got this two sided, 71 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: double sided ceasefire. Sam. Amazing. You know that everybody was 72 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: calling him unhinged, unbalanced, crazy. You know that we're going 73 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: to tryum for war crimes going after him. Sam, We're 74 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: talking about some pretty bad people over there, you know that, 75 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: in the evil regime. Think about what they've done. Just 76 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: some of your reflections on all this. 77 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 6: We're talking about forty seven years, forty seven years of 78 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 6: constant harassment of American lives being lost, of allies being attacked, 79 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 6: of proxies engaged in terrorist attacks. Not just proxies, but 80 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 6: the one sponsor of terrorism around the world, Iran. We're 81 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 6: talking about forty seven years of terror, of fear of murder, 82 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 6: of children being mutilated, of soldiers coming back from my 83 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 6: Iraq with IEDs that were manufactured, created and distributed by Iran, 84 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 6: and right now they're walking around in America on one limb, right, 85 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 6: So that's what we're talking about. 86 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: That's what we're referencing. 87 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 6: And by the way, to that tweet of the ending 88 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 6: of a civilization, keep on reading. 89 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: Scrow, my friend, scroll read the rest. 90 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 6: He specifically targeted the Iranian regime and blessed the Iranian people. 91 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 5: Who we called good people. 92 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 6: So he's referencing this military civilization. It's the utilization of 93 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 6: words word, the way that Donald J. Trump can only 94 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 6: engage words right, his lexicon brilliant. 95 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 5: It worked. Did it work? We have got two weeks 96 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 5: of ceasefire. Did it work? Absolutely? It worked. That's the 97 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 5: art of the deal. 98 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 6: This is the President Donald Trump modus operandi, and it 99 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 6: seems to be working on every other policy. 100 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 5: I think at the end of the day, we're going 101 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: to be surprised. 102 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 6: At the end of his presidency, the world will be 103 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 6: rid of an Iranian regime that has been harassing and 104 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 6: terrorizing the world for close to fifty years. 105 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: So I think I'm shocked at how serious it really was. 106 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Secretary of Rubio came out and just said, hey, 107 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: you better realize how much capability they had and much longer. 108 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we could have quote stopped all that 109 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: stuff without really getting after it and throwing down if 110 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Sam, They could have gotten really, 111 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: really ugly. Thank God for some bold moves here. Obviously 112 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: paying them a little money like billions of dollars or 113 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: whatever didn't get it done. Placating him not getting it done, 114 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: that's a joke. Hey, And remember they killed thirty eight 115 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: thousands of people. I mean, you know, in front of 116 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: the world, et cetera. 117 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 6: And come on, yeah, bribery did not work with the 118 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 6: previous administration. 119 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 5: This worked. 120 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 6: We're in it to win it, my friend. We are 121 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 6: listen all I know. We haven't seen this demonstration of 122 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 6: strength since World War Two. 123 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: We really have. We really did not. 124 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 6: We have not seen that amount of unbridled We will 125 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 6: do whatever it takes in order to acquire the final outcome, 126 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 6: which is at all costs victory. We haven't seen that 127 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 6: since World War Two. So this is a new America. 128 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 6: This is not a bully America, a harassing America. This 129 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 6: is an America that stands up for her values around 130 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 6: the world. But never again will Americans be harassed, terrorized 131 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 6: without any consequences. So with the new day, and I 132 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 6: am grateful for the fact that we have the military 133 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 6: wherewithal the political fortitude currently with this administration to move forward. 134 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: And we've got to pray earnestly for resolution here, we 135 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: really do. This is a moment where we come together 136 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: and support the president and say, listen, let's figure this 137 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: thing out. By the way, I saw where and we 138 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: got to pray for the people of Iran. You see 139 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: these images of them dancing in the streets, praying and 140 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: praising President Trump. I saw an interview with David Nasa 141 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: saying he believed that Christianity was exploding inside Iran, some 142 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: four plus million maybe Christians there. Yeah, this is complicated 143 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: stuff and we as Americans need to press in and 144 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: come together. Sam. I don't know what you what you're 145 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: thinking and what you're praying, but the church needs to 146 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: be bold in this hour. 147 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 5: Sam, I'm praying for revival and renewal. 148 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 6: This is not about Christian war mongering, and it's about 149 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,479 Speaker 6: it's about Christians wanting more people to come. 150 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 5: To the knowledge of Jesus christis Lord. 151 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 6: And again this this theological, myopic ideology currently in Iran 152 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 6: persecutes Christians and record break making numbers. And for this 153 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 6: regime to come down, Praise be God. The Iranian people 154 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 6: are able to hear the Gospel. Praise be God. Revival 155 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 6: and renewal will continue in Iran. And I do come 156 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 6: in agreement. We want to see just a glory of 157 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 6: Christ phil Iran. Imagine Tim Clinton and San Rodriguez. Imagine 158 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 6: for a moment, Imagine for a moment, Iran becoming the 159 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 6: beacon of Christianity in the Middle East. What if that 160 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 6: is on the other side of what's currently taking place. 161 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: So you go back to the last administration, the Biden 162 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: Harris administration. You remember what happened on Easter. That was 163 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: that transgender events. It was unbelievable. It was unbelievable to 164 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: the American people what they were doing on Easter at 165 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: the White House. Contrast that with what we witness faith 166 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: leaders coming to the White House praising Jesus. You know that, 167 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean seriously, it was deeply moving. They had that 168 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: Easter role this week crazy event. You know that again, 169 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: a celebration of faith taking place. Sam, talk to us 170 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: about the role of faith right now. I know like 171 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: TPUSA is doing those make heaving crowded events. A lot 172 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: of people see revival on college campuses going on. Sam, 173 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Bible sales are going through the roof. Today's generations are 174 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: showing up at church. Sam, what's happening in your mind? 175 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 5: Tim, I haven't covered this with anyone in any other interviews. 176 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 6: So this is my wife and I were talking this 177 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 6: past Sunday, and I'm in California. 178 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: Mind you. I need your audience to understand. 179 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 6: I am in California, right, So this is communist California, 180 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 6: socialist California, hedonistic California that is experiencing you move God. 181 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 6: And I do believe at the end of the day, 182 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 6: California can easily flip towards righteousness and justice. 183 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 5: But with that being said, I looked at my wife 184 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 5: and went, hey, let's go to. 185 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 6: The gym right after eight Eastern services throughout the course 186 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 6: of Saturday, Sunday and Friday. 187 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 5: Right, I go, I'm just gonna go crazy. I'm gonna 188 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 5: work out right, I'm wired right now. After the last service, 189 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 5: some of. 190 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 6: The gyms were closed in California, like national franchises. 191 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 5: We went, what's going on? We drove around. Many of 192 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 5: the establishments were shut down, and. 193 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 6: I'm going like, what are we in the South and 194 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 6: even in California. 195 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 5: Something is happening. What do I mean by this? 196 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 6: This administration made it okay for you to come out 197 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 6: as a Christian and to exercise that faith publicly without 198 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 6: any consequences. This is one of the most unbelievable, remarkable 199 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: deliverables of this administration. It's okay to be a Christian, 200 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 6: and it's okay to be a Christian and being business 201 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 6: owner and shut down your business because you won't be 202 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 6: harassed by politicians and government regardless of where you live, 203 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 6: including California. 204 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 5: This is what's taking place in America. 205 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: Sam. 206 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: Always great to see you, my friend. Thank you so 207 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: much for joining me. 208 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 5: Thank you, my friend. 209 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Coming up next. 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Doctor Tim, Welcome, 243 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. 244 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: Good to be with you. Doctor. 245 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: Hey, Tim, I guess as we get started, I want 246 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: to say thank you for your service, especially in these 247 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: in these times, with everything that's going on, you just 248 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: think about those who are serving all around the world, 249 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, in our armed forces and those by the way, 250 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: who serve in government. And granted, I know there's a 251 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: lot of tension going on about different sides and all 252 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, but it's all service to our country. 253 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: It's important work, and thank God we've got people in there. 254 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm praying, come, let us reason together, Tim, that we 255 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: would get some work done. You know, let's roll up 256 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: our sleeves and let's be Americans here, Tim, I guess 257 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: as we get started out Tuesday's eight pm deadline, this week, 258 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: President Trump, all eyes were blued on the Middle East 259 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: and people were praying earnestly, and thank god, there's this 260 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: two week double sided cease fire. But Tim, just some 261 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: reflections of thoughts from you about what's happening in the 262 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: Middle East right now. 263 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: Well, what's happened in the Middle East. 264 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 7: We have to remember there's been something that's going on 265 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 7: for hundreds and hundreds of years. But what's been going 266 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 7: on with the RAN in the United States has been 267 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 7: going on intensely for forty seven years, beginning with the 268 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 7: takeover of our embassy in Tehran and President Carter at 269 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 7: that time sending. 270 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: Over some helicopters to rescue them that failed. 271 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 7: Than the bombing of the marine barracks in Lebanon, funded 272 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 7: by and supported by Iran. Hundreds of Marines were killed 273 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 7: at that time. Even Reagan, we thought we'd have a 274 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 7: stronger response, didn't. And what the Uranians learned from all 275 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 7: that is they could act with impunity to kill Americans 276 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 7: and provoke terror on us, all as part of their 277 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 7: psychological warfare game, and they believed we would do nothing. 278 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 7: They tested President Trump and thought the same. They did 279 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 7: not expect more than maybe a bombing or two. But 280 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 7: his intensive reaction has gotten their attention. Will it have 281 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 7: an impact long run, We'll wait and see. But we 282 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 7: have to remember as the nation, this has been harmful 283 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 7: to us by hundreds, and within their own country by 284 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 7: tens of thousands of people they've killed. This is an 285 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 7: evil regime and there's no way of around that. We 286 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 7: have to admit that and has to be met with 287 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 7: eliminating them. 288 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, tim the Straits of Horror Moves, Why is 289 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: that so important? People are all talking about it now, 290 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: and that was one of the big conditions for the 291 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: President to get this ceasefire. 292 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely well. 293 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 7: So much oil flows out of there from the Gulf 294 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 7: States and through that Straits of Her Moves. 295 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: You know, it's narrow. 296 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 7: It's the actual shipping lanes are quite narrow there, a 297 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 7: few miles wide, and so it doesn't take much for 298 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 7: RAND to shut them down with mines. They could send 299 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 7: out people in canoes fro you know, with bombs on them, 300 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 7: and it's hard. When the US has multi million dollars 301 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 7: and billions of dollars worth of ships and weapons, it's 302 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 7: hard to take out. It's like the single wasp can 303 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 7: still sting you when you're protected again, something bigger than that, 304 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 7: So stopping the shipping. What that's done to the global economy, 305 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 7: what that's done to oil is pretty impactful. We hope 306 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 7: that this or reopen those states will have a strong 307 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 7: and immediate positive impact. He'll be continuous with regard to 308 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 7: lowering oil prices and helping the world economy. 309 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: Tim Over the last number of years, President Trump has 310 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: received a nonslot of just animous hatred, I mean everything 311 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: coming at him. All these efforts to impeach him, to 312 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: imprison him. We saw these attempts at taking his life 313 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: and so much more. And it's just constant bickering and badgering. 314 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: In the midst of all this, the left and some 315 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: of the progressive right coming at the president saying he's unbalanced, unhinged, 316 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: he's crazy. They try to say he's going to be 317 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: tried for war crimes, all that kind of stuff. Just 318 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: some thoughts about in the midst of it. Here the 319 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: ceasefire comes. If he lands this plane, by the way, 320 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: it looks pretty good for him. That blows up all 321 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: this stuff all over again. But Tim, just some reflections 322 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: you served in Washington. You get all this and we 323 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: get bickering back and forth, but some of this is 324 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: just so ridiculous and over the top. It's driving people. 325 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: Crazy, absolutely, and it's so intense. 326 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 7: And once people continue to state their point of view, 327 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 7: they have to defend their point of view, you know, 328 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 7: their psychological concept of cognitive dissonance. We don't want to 329 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 7: pay attention to anything that challenges that point of view, 330 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 7: and we will ignore anything that code change our point 331 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 7: of view. 332 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 3: So people double down and triple down on these things. Look, 333 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: I get it. 334 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 7: If you're looking for things to find where President Trump 335 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 7: has set things abrasive, impulsive, brutal, well you don't have 336 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 7: to look very far. 337 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 3: It's going to be there. 338 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 7: He also has his times of kindness and prayer for 339 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 7: reflection too, But he understands, in this case of dealing 340 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 7: with nearly half a century of terror, that the appeasement 341 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 7: and the milk toast approach you've had has ended up 342 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 7: with more American lives. And so those who are to 343 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 7: that level of just want to attack and destroy him. 344 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 7: I want them to reflect on what has happened to 345 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 7: our nation over this time. Soft leaders don't get us 346 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 7: a safety here that has led to more threats and 347 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 7: it's going to get worse, quite frankly, because I believe 348 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 7: that what's happened with the Iranian influence with terrorism in 349 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 7: the United States, with communities growing that continue to avoice 350 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 7: hatred and talk about everything about its Islamophobia. Anytime we 351 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 7: speak up about that, the distortion of Muslim religion to 352 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 7: make it more violent towards us, this whole thing is 353 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 7: going to become even more vituperative. I don't see it 354 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 7: ending with their attacks on President Trump, but he's got 355 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 7: to stand strong. 356 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, because you got to step back and look 357 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: at this is an evil regime we're talking about. They 358 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: slaughter what some thirty five plus thousand of their people. 359 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: We all heard about that wrestler that they just butchered. 360 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: You hear them saying, Tim, these are bad people. You know. 361 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk before he died, said that radical Islam it's 362 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: an incompatible with Western civilization. Take us into those type 363 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: of thoughts and conversations, Tim, and where do you see 364 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: this going? People are really concerned by the way about 365 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: the progression of Islam in American culture. 366 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 7: Ye know, well, I would even go farther than Charlie 367 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 7: Kirk said, radical Islam is not compatible with world culture. 368 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 7: It is set at world dominance. They want to set 369 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 7: up a califate to the United States, as they're building schools, 370 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 7: as they teach children hateful messages towards the United States 371 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 7: here and around the world, as they try and they 372 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 7: get into elected offices and communities know what they're going for, 373 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 7: oftentimes lower level community elected officials, school boards where they 374 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 7: can then push some of these points view there too. 375 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 7: And it's creeping and slowly, but it's systematic and anybody 376 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 7: who turns a blind eye to its as well. We 377 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 7: should accept all religions. This isn't a matter of accepting 378 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 7: a religion. It's a matter of saying we don't have 379 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 7: to accept a radical, violent point of view. And that's 380 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 7: what is coming down to. And they want to see 381 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 7: these folks with that radical Islamic approach want to see 382 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 7: an overthrow and changes there, and so we need to 383 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 7: be aware of it. 384 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: Jim, in the midst of this, you go back to 385 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: the ceasefire and everybody's praying for some type of complete resolution. 386 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: Can we get there? We've yet to see that. And Tim, 387 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: I want you to comment a little bit more, maybe 388 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: on Iranian warfare strategy, how they go about and what 389 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: you anticipate as we look to the days ahead. 390 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 7: Well, they recognize that they don't have the firepower of 391 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 7: the United States. If they had a nuclear bomb and 392 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 7: they were in a very short term, they would have 393 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 7: enough weapons and missiles to deliver it, so once we 394 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 7: stop them on that, but they recognize they can't fight 395 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 7: against American military strength. 396 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: So what they do is the use psychological warfare. 397 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 7: They've learned the lessons of the United States weakness in Vietnam, 398 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 7: guerrilla warfare, small attacks, continuing on what they did in 399 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 7: Iraq and Afghanistan, putting bombs on women and children and 400 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 7: suicide vests to attack. They know that the psychological warfare 401 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 7: of the thousand cuts can affect a country to the 402 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 7: point that we have pulled out. So they may have 403 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 7: thousands of these little cheap drones up against our multimillion 404 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 7: dollar missiles. 405 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter to them. 406 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 7: What matters is continuing this and even with a ceasefire 407 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 7: between the US and Iran, we hope it lasts. I'm 408 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 7: not sure will they'll continue their attacks in other countries. 409 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 7: I see no changes in that because they've been brought 410 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 7: up in a world of hatred and world that they 411 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 7: believe they have to dominate. So let's note that this 412 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 7: is going to continue to be this psychological warfare, to attack, 413 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 7: to turn world opinion against the United States, to turn 414 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 7: domestic opinion against President Trump. I see them as continuing 415 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 7: that just having leadership change and the next level of 416 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 7: leadership change and the next the next level of leadership 417 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 7: change won't do it. 418 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: It's going to. 419 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 7: Require a cultural change in Iran to really make major 420 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 7: changes on this. I'm not optimistic about that, Tim. I 421 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 7: really think that some of those problems will continue, and 422 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 7: so we have to remain strong and bold and courageous. 423 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: Tim. Before you go, everybody watched and prayed for those 424 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: pilots that were shot down in Iran and the amazing 425 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: rescue that took place. It was stunning what we were 426 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: able to do to get in there find them, and 427 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: especially the last one. It was just what a story. 428 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: But Tim, you also step back and you have a 429 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: deep love for those who wear the uniform and serve 430 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: our country and their families. You care about the kids 431 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: of these soldiers and more. I saw you were in 432 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: a text thread with some people and you were talking 433 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: about this very thing. Can you give us some reflections 434 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: on what you really care about, what you're thinking about 435 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: in terms of the families of those who. 436 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 7: Serve, and to you too, I mean you were in 437 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 7: the military as well, and you understand it's in there. 438 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 7: We learn a lot about discipline, We learn a lot 439 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 7: about respect, everything like how you wear your uniform and 440 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 7: the perfection of lines. All those as understanding, you can't 441 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 7: have any leeway around that. Well, the children growing up 442 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 7: in military families, let's say, acknowledge they serve too. April 443 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 7: is Military child month, and in that understand the issues 444 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 7: that they go through. They can learn a lot about 445 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 7: resilience and independence and pride and patriotism. They learn a 446 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 7: lot more about what world news means. But they also 447 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 7: are dealing with challenges of jumping from school to school 448 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 7: as the family moves around. Some of the things they 449 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 7: see on TV can hit them a little bit harder 450 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 7: or a lot harder. Or their parents may be gone. 451 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 7: They may miss birthdays and sporting events and other things too. 452 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 7: It is important for communities, for schools to recognize that 453 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 7: to be supportive of them. Don't wait for children to say, yeah, 454 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 7: this bothers me. I would suggest teachers and pastors and 455 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 7: people involved with ministry, they say, how are things going 456 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 7: for you? And really ask that second question because kids 457 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 7: may not answer it right away. And I believe that 458 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 7: we should all be taking some special time this month 459 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 7: to pray for the children who really don't have any 460 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 7: say so on this. 461 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: They're trying to understand this crazy world. 462 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 7: We live in and all those violence, and they need 463 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 7: our support and they need our prayers. 464 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: People want to learn more about you, Chim work. Would 465 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: they go? 466 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 7: My website is doctor Tim Murphy dot com. That's dr 467 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 7: Tim Murphy dot com on there. I have some number 468 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 7: of podcasts, a number of things I've written in information 469 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 7: on how to get my book, The Christ Care. By 470 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 7: the way, I say, whether you're yourself, I've gone through trauma, 471 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 7: or you love someone who's going through trauma, The Christ 472 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 7: Cure is a book that can be a guide, a 473 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 7: spiritual and psychological scientific guide of how to help someone 474 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 7: thrive spiritually as well as psychologically despite the trauma they faced. 475 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: Doctor Chim Murphy always great to see you, my friend, 476 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. Thank you Tim coming up next. 477 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: He's President of American Values and Senior vice president for 478 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: Public Policy the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary bauers 479 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: with us Joyce now is Gary Bauer. Bauer served in 480 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: President Ronald Reagan's administration for eight years as Under Secretary 481 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: of Education and Chief Domestic Policy Advisor. Today, he serves 482 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: as president of American Values and educational nonprofit organization based 483 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: right there in Washington, d C. He's also Senior vice 484 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: president of public Policy for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary, 485 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Thank you, Thank you. 486 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 8: Tim. Great to be with you, particularly in an exciting 487 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 8: week like this one. 488 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: Gary, it's been wild. You know. You go back to 489 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, eight pm, the deadline. Everybody was on pins 490 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: and needles. Everyone was watching. My kids were watching What's 491 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: gonna happen? Dad, What's gonna happen? Hey? Thank god for 492 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: the two week double sided cease fire. Gary, Just some 493 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: reflections on all that's going down and your thoughts about Iran, 494 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: whether or not they're really going to come to the 495 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: table or we're going to be able to get something done. 496 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 8: Well, as you know, to him, beginning with that last part, 497 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 8: there's a whole history here. These are people that follow 498 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 8: a particular rotic form of Islam that teaches them that 499 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 8: they have a moral obligation to lie to the Infidel. 500 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 8: Everybody's confused about us, about that that's us, and so 501 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 8: they lie all the time. Nonetheless, they've they've just had 502 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 8: six weeks of seeing the kind of power that the 503 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 8: United States military has. 504 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: What does Mike Tyson say, Gary, everybody has a plan 505 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: until you get punched in the mouth type thing. 506 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 8: There you go, and then they don't have a plan, right, Yes, yeah, no, 507 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 8: they saw that, and they certainly know by now what 508 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 8: kind of a man that President Trump is in his 509 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 8: willingness and his strength and his courage and so forth. 510 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 8: But you know, Tim, the thing that just the feeling 511 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 8: I had this week, in addition to being proud and 512 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 8: excited and thanking God for the developments, I was furious 513 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 8: at what the Democrat Party and its leaders were doing. 514 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: At the time when. 515 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 8: We had a rans back to the wall. Democrat leaders 516 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 8: were coming out urging the canidate of the United States 517 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 8: to invoke the twenty fifth Amendment and remove Trump from 518 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 8: office because he had gone insane. I mean, they were 519 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 8: literally giving aid and comfort to our enemies. And if 520 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 8: the RAM would have listened to that, they very well 521 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 8: may not have made even this two week deal. 522 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: You're right, Gary, unhinged, he's unbalanced. We're gonna try. Hey, 523 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna put him on a trial for 524 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 1: war crimes, etc. Just going after him like crazy. At 525 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think the American people 526 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: are so done with all that garbage. They saw what 527 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: happened over the last the administration, how they went after 528 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: Trump on everything. People are just kind of bland. It's 529 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: like Yang and yeah, yeah, more of the same craziness. 530 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: At the same time, these are important moments. We need 531 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: to be stepping up and praying about everything that's going down, 532 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: and this is These are tough, challenging things to get done. 533 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: Trump kind of blew everything up by this two week 534 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: double sided ceasefire. Here you go, it could land the 535 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: plane here, you know, get this thing done, Gary, that 536 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: would be a big, big deal. You're right, this is 537 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: disgusting what we're seeing. 538 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, if you can pull this off, it 539 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 8: would be huge. Now, look, we've already won a significant victory. 540 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 8: They have degraded the Iranian military in a massive way. 541 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 8: I don't want to overstatement, I overstated. I think there's 542 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 8: a tendency to do that. And we've seen before in 543 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 8: other wars that the enemy can be resilient. But in 544 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 8: just the numbers of missiles we've destroyed, how much we've 545 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 8: set back their nuclear program, what we did with their navy, 546 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 8: A lot of progress has been made and it will 547 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 8: take them, I believe, years to recover to where they 548 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 8: were before President Trump and and the brave men and 549 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 8: women of the US military went in and taught them 550 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 8: a couple of lessons. 551 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 1: You know, Gary, you're seeing the images too of the 552 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: people in Iran celebrating, dancing in the streets with joy. 553 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: They want to be free. I know there are a 554 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: lot of people stateside Iranians who are celebrating and just 555 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: wanting to quote loud President Trump. They're like, this is 556 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: a moment, and so with all the propaganda going on, 557 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: it's tough to sift your way through everything. We need 558 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: just rational, clear voices in the midst of this. This 559 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: is not a time for quote people to be silent. 560 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: Let's get up, speak up, show up, suit up, Let's 561 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: do something. Let's pray especially for these moments. 562 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 8: I agree completely, Tim. I. You know, when the pilot 563 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 8: was rescued after the shootdown in Iran over Easter weekend 564 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 8: and all the symbolism of that are a lot of 565 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 8: people in the administration publicly asked for prayers. President Trump 566 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 8: and others thanked God when the pilot was rescued. And 567 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 8: again the left wing media and some Democrats in Congress 568 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 8: said it was inappropriate that this was making it a 569 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 8: religious war, This was a violation of norms. No, it 570 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 8: wasn't a violation of norms. We've been asking for God's 571 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 8: protection when our men and women go into combat all 572 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 8: the way back to seventeen seventy six. We've been doing 573 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 8: that up until about the last decade when Biden was 574 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 8: in and some of the other under President Obama. During 575 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 8: those two terms, we got away from that and we 576 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 8: started extolling the virtues of officers that were showing up 577 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 8: at the Pentagon in dresses. That's who we called brave 578 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 8: and courageous. We're going back to normal now. We know 579 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 8: that without God's hand to protection, America can't accomplish anything. 580 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: And Gary, well, people are going after President Trump, what 581 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: about this evil regime? What about those bad people over 582 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: there killing what was some thirty eight thousand of their 583 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: own people, shooting them in the head. Remember the wrestler 584 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: who went back, they killed him. Think about everything that's 585 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: going I think what I'm shocked by, Gary, is the 586 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: real capability of what they had in terms of nuclear 587 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: power and all that. You know that Marco Rubio, Secretary 588 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: of Rubio, came out and said, dude, you better recognize 589 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: what really was going on. They were getting to a 590 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: place where they may not have been stopped. That's serious, Gary, 591 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: And I think these are the implications of all this is. 592 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: It's going to impact our children and our children's children 593 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: for peace, hopefully for a long time, no question about. 594 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 8: Look, I don't want to get too deep into military, 595 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 8: geopolitical strategy and so forth. But North Korea perfected a 596 00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 8: strategy where they built a very tough conventional military tough 597 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 8: that it would have been almost too costly to try 598 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 8: to go into North Korea, whether South Korea did it 599 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 8: or anybody did it, in order to stop their nuclear program. 600 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 8: And in other words, they built up a big conventional 601 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 8: force to protect the nuclear program they were building. And 602 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 8: now they are in nuclear power, and that is exactly 603 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 8: what Aram was trying to do. And thank god President 604 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 8: Trump had the courage to deal with that to lance 605 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 8: the boil before it got to the point where the 606 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 8: price would have been too big. 607 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: Gary Beller always great to see you, my friend, Thank 608 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: you for joining me. 609 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 8: Good to be with you. 610 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: Tim coming up next, And he directed and wrote a 611 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: great awakening Joshua ank is with this. 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Joshua, welcome. 643 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. 644 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 9: Yeah, doctor Tim, I thank you so much. It's an 645 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 9: honor to be here, and thanks to all those who 646 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 9: are listening and watching. 647 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: Hey, I cannot believe the buzz going on about a 648 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: Great Awakening. Everybody is losing their mind. Over What's happening. 649 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: It's in the box office everywhere, talks about an unlikely 650 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: friendship between evangelist George Whitfield Benjamin Franklin. But it all 651 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: ties back really to a theme of liberty, Joshua, where 652 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: to come from? What's happening and what's in your heart 653 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: over this film? 654 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, thanks again for having me. And it's such 655 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 9: a relief to be on this side of the release 656 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 9: that we can actually now talk about a movie that's 657 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 9: in theaters for the past several months, it's all it's 658 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 9: been the promotional lead up to the launch, and so 659 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 9: now it is in theaters nationwide, and like you said, 660 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 9: the reception has been absolutely overwhelmingly positive. Lives being changed. 661 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 9: Ministry leaders who are you know, there's a ministry leader 662 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 9: in California, a very prominent pastor in California who said 663 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 9: to his congregation, he said, don't come to my church 664 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 9: service on Wednesday, go see this movie. 665 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 5: That's what he said. 666 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 9: And so it's been a joy for us here at 667 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 9: Sight and Sound to be on that receiving end and 668 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 9: to see what the Lord is doing with this film 669 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 9: on liberty, and that is the theme of the film. 670 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 9: You know, We're in our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary 671 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 9: as a nation this year, and there's going to be 672 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 9: lots of circles of people talking about this word liberty, 673 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 9: but they will likely have differing definitions of what that is. 674 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 9: This film emphasizes the Biblical definition of that beautiful word 675 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 9: called liberty, the same word that's on our liberty bell 676 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 9: from the verse from Leviticus proclaimed liberty throughout all the 677 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 9: land until all the inhabitants thereof. We had a vision 678 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 9: that this film would be like that bell, ringing out liberty, 679 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 9: proclaiming it once again over the land, people being set 680 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 9: free from sin. And we're telling the story through these 681 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 9: incredibly unlikely friends, Benjamin Franklin, who's arguably the most celebrated 682 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 9: deist of the Founding Fathers, who happen to be best 683 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 9: friends and business partners with arguably the most powerful evangelists 684 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 9: of all time, and that's Reverend George Whitfield. It's an 685 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 9: unlikely friendship. It's all a true story, and without Ben 686 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 9: Franklin promoting George Woodfield's sermons and all of his whereabouts 687 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 9: the First Great Awakening from seventeen thirty nine to seventeen 688 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 9: seventy may not have happened. 689 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: I had the privilege of spending a few moments before 690 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: we have come on here to get into the film, 691 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to turn it off, because every 692 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: now and then something happens. I think in culture that's catalytic. 693 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: It's just like all the stars line up. And when 694 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: you think about American culture in the fight, all the 695 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: battle we've been through, it's been pretty dark. You go 696 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: back not too far, you know that, and people are 697 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: sucking air and they're fighting for religious liberty all over again, 698 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: and the Founding Fathers and the stories and what our 699 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: forefathers did just to quote have this kind of freedom 700 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: in America, and then you begin to realize the threat 701 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: of the loss of those. At the same time, you 702 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: go and think about what happened with our friend Charlie 703 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: Kirk being assassinated. If you all before the eyes of 704 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: Americans everywhere for what holding a microphone, you know that. 705 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: And in the midst of it, we know, even in 706 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: this hour, we're looking at the least and seeing what's 707 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: potentially happening over there with Iran and trying to figure 708 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: out what's going on in culture. In the midst of it. 709 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: You realize Faith is back in America like never before. 710 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: We just came through Easter season and I'm telling you what, 711 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: people everywhere are boldly proclaiming Christ. You're seeing Bible sales 712 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: through the roof. You're seeing people coming to Christ like 713 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: never before. You see the next generations showing up in 714 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: church revivals on college campuses. This is a moment. And 715 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: then going to this film, you go back into the 716 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: life of Whitfield, you go back to Benjamin Franklin, and 717 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: I just loved how it started out. You can see 718 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: the seeds of life being born in them. Take us back. 719 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: You're the writer, director, producer of all this. I'm wondering 720 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: what was happening in your heart and mind as you 721 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: began just to go straight into this narrative, this story, 722 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: and to bring it to life on film. 723 00:39:59,280 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 724 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 9: Man, well there's a lot there. Goodness. You know, this 725 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 9: isn't necessarily a movie. It's really a movement, and the 726 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 9: film is really it's the revelation that took place before 727 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 9: the American Revolution. You know, when you know the backstory 728 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 9: of a major event, it makes you appreciate that event 729 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 9: even more. And here we are in our two hundred 730 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 9: and fiftieth anniversary, specifically in July, and there's gonna be 731 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 9: a lot of cannons and fireworks, confetti being flown and 732 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 9: heard all around the nation to cell independence. But here's 733 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 9: the thing is, our founding fathers didn't wake up on 734 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 9: July fourth and just say hey, let's be a self 735 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 9: governing people. That took time. And so the First Great 736 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 9: Awakening from seventeen thirty nine to seventeen seventy was a 737 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 9: thirty year period of time, which is the Biblical definition 738 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 9: of a generation. It took an entire generation of revivals 739 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 9: led by George Whitfield and many others, the Wesley Brothers 740 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 9: amongst you know, the other pastors at the time, evangelists 741 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 9: at the time, in order to create like a cultural overhaul. 742 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 9: And so you have, you know, in seventeen seventy six 743 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 9: when we declared independence, you have men who are thirty 744 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 9: years old, who don't know anything but these Judeo Christian 745 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 9: values being sown into their lives, you know, during this 746 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 9: entire greade awakening. And so it prepared the people the 747 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 9: Great Awakening to become a self governing people. And it 748 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 9: became then the part of their language to say things 749 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 9: like our in inalegable rights are not a gift given 750 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 9: to us by a king, but are right from God 751 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 9: by God. They didn't just come up with those snazzy 752 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 9: phrases and words. They were saturated for thirty years with 753 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 9: them to become that DNA that led to what we 754 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 9: know is the United States of America. And so when 755 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 9: we set out to do this film, we knew that 756 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 9: liberty was the theme of it. And it took some time, 757 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 9: but we discovered that it was the revelation before the 758 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 9: Revolution through George Whitfield, who is an unbelievable person in 759 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 9: our history. He's known as the spiritual founding Father. Without him, 760 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 9: we just would not have had the influence on culture 761 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 9: that we had during that thirty year period of time. 762 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 9: And the last thing I'll say to your question, to 763 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 9: your point that you just made, was you know there's 764 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 9: a preparation happening right now. 765 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 5: I believe. 766 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 9: I believe this is a prophetic film. And what does 767 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 9: a prophet do. A prophet goes out and yell and 768 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 9: proclaims truth above the noise of culture, and even the 769 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 9: most of the world might want to just push them aside. 770 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 9: Their words don't return void, and there's anthems, and there's 771 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 9: banners that are created that the church capital c can 772 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 9: rally behind. And that's what we're seeing nationally right now 773 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 9: with this film. We have not these incredible people, key 774 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 9: influencers all over the United States who are picking up 775 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 9: this film like a banner, like an anthem, and they're saying, churches, congregations, 776 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 9: long groups, youth groups, you got to go see this 777 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 9: movie so that you can understand more fully what's at 778 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 9: stake with liberty in this country. 779 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 1: A few years ago, I had the privilege of interviewing 780 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: Randa Wallace, the producer of Brave Hearts the Secretariat, and 781 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: I said, what drives the mindset to produce that kind 782 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 1: of film? Yeah, he said, Tim, it's what's in the 783 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: heart of man that I look for. What do they 784 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: cry out for? And I'm thinking the same thing as 785 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: I look at you, Joshua, and I think about liberty. 786 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: Give me liberty or give me death. I don't want 787 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,240 Speaker 1: my children and my children's children to grow up without 788 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: that kind of freedom that we had that we tasted. 789 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: You know that that those rights really do come from God. 790 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: In the midst of all this, I was with a 791 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: group of faith leaders. We were recently at the White 792 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: House gathered together praying and praising God. You know that. 793 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot going on, there's a 794 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: lot of dynamics at work, but nevertheless, the cry of 795 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: their spirit, yeah, is God give us these freedoms. Lord, 796 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: we worship You above everything, and so on we look 797 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: to America to fifty. I think you're right. This picks 798 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: up the anthem. If you will, let me ask you 799 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: this real quick. If people want to learn more about 800 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: the Great A Great Awakening, and where they can go 801 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: see it, where they can learn more about you sight 802 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: and sound, and where can they go a. 803 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 9: Great Awakening dot com. And obviously the movie is in 804 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 9: movie theaters thirteen hundred movie theaters nationwide right now. It 805 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 9: opened on Good Friday nationally. We picked up some more 806 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 9: theaters here recently, and so look at your local listings, 807 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 9: go to fandango, you know, anywhere that you go to 808 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 9: look at what's in the movie theaters. But at Great 809 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 9: Awakening dot Com will definitely get you there as well. 810 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 9: And yeah, I just want to go back and just 811 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 9: thank you, doctor Tim for what you're doing and the 812 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 9: ministry that you were leading and really being one of 813 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 9: the voices today that's going to really motivate leaders, influencers 814 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 9: in the culture for today. You mentioned Wallace. I mean, 815 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 9: he's a hero, he's such a talented writer, and he's right. 816 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 9: You know, you can do a lot of head knowledge 817 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 9: and a lot of education and teaching, but when it 818 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 9: goes to the heart of the man, you know, and 819 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 9: the woman and child, you know, that's when people change 820 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 9: their lives, when it hits their heart. And this film 821 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 9: A Great Awakening is absolutely it's a heart. 822 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: It's a heart inter your jerker for sure, Joshua, want 823 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: to close this way. A man we both respected and loved, 824 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: a strong voice, courageous voice and culture was doctor James Thobson. 825 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: I heard him say this, we need to pray the 826 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: church would awaken and find her rightful voice. Until then, 827 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: parachurch organizations have to stand in the gap. But the 828 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: real powers in the church prayed the church would awaken 829 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: and find her voice. There's a line in that film 830 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: I think it was just I think it's Wittfield. Oh, 831 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: we're to be the hands and feet of Christ. Then 832 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: it was the cry of no, well we also what 833 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: about his voice? 834 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 3: What about his voice? 835 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a time. This is a moment that's 836 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: a big takeaway from a great awakening. Joshua. Always great 837 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: to see you, my friend. Thank you so much. We're 838 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: praying that God would do great and mighty things with 839 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 1: this film a great awakening. 840 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 9: Thank you for joining us and all for his glory. 841 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 5: Thank you Doctor Tim. 842 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 4: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 843 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 4: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a 844 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 4: part of your life. 845 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: Andy closing. These are unprecedented times, they are challenging times, 846 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: but I know this. God's in control. I believe is 847 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: at work. Hope you'll press in close to Him in 848 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: his heart and know that God loves you and wants 849 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: to be involved in your life. Our hope, our strength 850 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: comes from the Lord. Hey, here again is an encouraging 851 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: verse from the Bible. I want to write this down, 852 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: reflect on it all week. Proverbs twenty nine, verse twenty five. 853 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: The fear of man will prove to be a snare. 854 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: But whoever trust in the Lord is kept safe. Hope 855 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: you know that you can look to Him for wisdom 856 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: and direction in your everyday life. Let me also say this, 857 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: I've also learned though as a professional counselor that it's 858 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: normal to have concern, maybe fear, worry when it seems 859 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: like life's not the way it's supposed to be, when 860 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: you're watching the TV and you're hearing about war and 861 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: rumors of war and so much more. For some, while 862 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: it's normal to have concern, fear, and worry, that can 863 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: begin to really dictate their life. It can begin to 864 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: consume you, control you. It's easy to lose perspective and 865 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: even hope. It can get so dark for some that 866 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: they feel like life would be better off without them. 867 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: I say this every week because it's really important. You 868 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: don't have to live like that. Simply taking a step 869 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: reaching out for help is often the gateway to a 870 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: new day or a new you. And if you or 871 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: someone you love is struggling. 872 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 3: Do that. 873 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: There are wonderful counsels and pastors who actually care and 874 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: help direct you, maybe help you find that hope, the 875 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: answers that you're looking for. And there are also a 876 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: lot of wonderful resources available now. I love to connect 877 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: you with some of those. You can learn more at 878 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: our website at AACC dot net that's AACC dot net, 879 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: or check out our brand new website if you want 880 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: to get connected with the mental health leader in your area, 881 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: check out christiancareconnect dot com christiancareconnect dot com. If you 882 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: don't have a relationship with God, you know what you 883 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 1: can do that right now by asking him to come 884 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: into your life, ask him to forgive you of your 885 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: sin and to be your lord and savior. Matter of fact, 886 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: you can pray a simple prayer from your heart to 887 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: God's heart right now. Pray this prayer after me, Lord Jesus, 888 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 1: I need you. I know I'm a sinner. I believe 889 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 1: that you died for my sins. I want to turn 890 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: from my ways, and I want to invite you to 891 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: come into my heart and life. I want to trust 892 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: and follow you as my Lord and Savior. Thank you 893 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: for loving me, giving your life for me. That's what 894 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: Easter was all about. Thank you for the gift of 895 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: grace and forgiveness, the gift of eternal life of heaven. 896 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 1: I pray all this in the strong name of Jesus. 897 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 5: Amen. 898 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: You know what the Bible says. The Bible says in 899 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 1: Romans ten nine that if you confess with your mouth 900 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: that Jesus is Lord, and your believe in your heart 901 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: that God raised him from the dead. The Bible says this, 902 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: you will be saved. The best thing you can do 903 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: right now is if you prayed that prayer go serve 904 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: God for the rest of your life. 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