WEBVTT - Buck Brief - Can Elon Tame the Deep State With Michael Malice

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Buck, brief time, everybody. Michael Malice with us

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<v Speaker 2>hosts of your welcome fantastic program.

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<v Speaker 3>You should all check out. Michael.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't talked to you since the election. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get first and foremost, your your thoughts on what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on right now. You got NFL players doing the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump Dance. You got people running around seemingly more excited

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<v Speaker 2>about Trump than ever before. MSNBC has hosts going to

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<v Speaker 2>pay homage to Trump at mar A Lago after saying

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<v Speaker 2>he was hitler.

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<v Speaker 3>What is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot that's happening in different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I think you'll agree with me, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very rare I do this. You have to give

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<v Speaker 1>the media some credit because they prepared their voters for

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<v Speaker 1>a loss. It's not like twenty sixteen where they're suffering

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of existential trauma. Part like the in the

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<v Speaker 1>marginally ones saw this as a possibility. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>good in terms of not having unrest and all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of your insanity happening Number one. Number two is just historically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, grow any kind of entertainment, you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>corporate wing, and then you've got the cool stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the stuff that they play on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>and the mall, and they have the records that you

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<v Speaker 1>know you have to order from far away. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you have all of corporate entertainment behind one candidate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>beyondce to Taylor Swift and every other one of these people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to create The cool move to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to go away from that. You know, instead of watching ABC, CBS, NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we were kids would watch what Spike or MTV

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. So I think, just on a

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<v Speaker 1>very basic sociological level, that's what's happening there. But two

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<v Speaker 1>is Kamala Harris was like a combination of a cop,

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<v Speaker 1>like an annoying your friend's annoying mom, a d I hire.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like she's like this clown car of all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that so many people hate. And we've at a

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<v Speaker 1>time and place where podcasts are so influential in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of shaping our opinions of people, and she's, even though

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<v Speaker 1>she's relatively young, is still in this kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands model.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, do you think that the decision she made to

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<v Speaker 2>not do the Rogan podcast. I know you've been on

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<v Speaker 2>like fifteen times or something, so you know there's that how.

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<v Speaker 1>Many times you've been on?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, big fan?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I just wanted to hear you say a

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<v Speaker 1>big fat goose, big fat goose.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know what Joe, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean? You know you can put it.

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<v Speaker 1>In word for a guess who are likable and myself

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<v Speaker 1>so harsh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know he's he's making memes of how

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<v Speaker 2>big my head is.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we're like in the green room here getting ready,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, versus green room.

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<v Speaker 1>We're both in our underwear green room, green room, green room. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're room right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the virtual green room. And they're pajama pants, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>not underwear, elf.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in sheth underwear.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, So she didn't go on the Rogan show.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that actually the better move that her going on

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<v Speaker 2>because it would have been more catastrophic? I mean, do

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<v Speaker 2>you think going forward, democrats realize they have to do

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest shows by audience and not just what they've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing for the last forty years, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have I think she would have been disaster and Rogan,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put that out there, because he has a great

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<v Speaker 1>BS detector. He wouldn't have been tough in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>being playing gotcha like Peter Doucy, you know at the

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<v Speaker 1>White House correspondence briefings with KJP. But her entire candidacy

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<v Speaker 1>and political career is very performative. Right. It's her like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to guess what answer is going to get her

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<v Speaker 1>the most votes. I forgot who it was, maybe with

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Adams, but she just seems like someone who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even read a newspaper and just reads headlines. It's very bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember in twenty twenty when she was running

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<v Speaker 1>for president and someone asked her about banning plastic straws

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, yeah, I think we should, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear she had not thought about it for at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but was like, Okay, this seems like the lefty answer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going for the lefty votes, and it's the primary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give that. So she doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>have very many convictions, so that's very hard to pull

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<v Speaker 1>off for three hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the here's the thesis, though, I want to. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to post to you the uh has the lesson

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<v Speaker 2>or or the lessons have been learned. I guess now

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<v Speaker 2>it's a question yes or no.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You have people like John Oliver. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of audience he even has these days, or what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of residence he has with Democrats, something about people

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that we need British people with British accents to

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<v Speaker 2>yellous about our politics.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never understood this, Like if I went to.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to like what, Oh darn, you understand this

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly because there's a certain part of population that uses

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<v Speaker 1>secondary cues to determine truth or false. This is why

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden refers to herself as a doctor. This is

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<v Speaker 1>why so many of these shit libs for themselves as

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<v Speaker 1>ESQUIRE or PhD on their social media, because these are

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<v Speaker 1>cues that this person is smart and therefore should be

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<v Speaker 1>listening to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, you know they take a British accent

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<v Speaker 2>is smart. I just think it's kind of to assume

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<v Speaker 2>that some guys are like, oh, like, I'm from Liverpool.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you watch Gwango.

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<v Speaker 2>No one cares, right, It's bizarre. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>care you're right. People shouldn't care. People should not care

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<v Speaker 2>about it, Yehrrect, it's I have a disdain for people

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<v Speaker 2>who hear a fancy sounding accent and automatically assume that

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<v Speaker 2>this person is worth listening to you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I should say.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on this I'm interrupting with is a key point,

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<v Speaker 1>A central part of contemporary leftism, obsession with the foreign

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<v Speaker 1>and the exotic. Oh, I got these chocolates from whatever country.

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<v Speaker 1>Automatically it's gonna sound like it's better because it's important,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That it's aboutter.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know this can find this country, Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 1>all these other things. So they're very fixated on the

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<v Speaker 1>out group and any kind of They're not waving their flags,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're gonna wave some other countries flag, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seven days out of the week. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>someone is an accent will tell them in their mindset

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<v Speaker 1>that this person's better than us because their other Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that I agree with your assessment. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wish that wasn't the case. What I want to asking

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<v Speaker 2>about about John Oliver though, is he's saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no evidence for girls are as good as boys

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<v Speaker 2>in sports doing this whole thing you saw him on

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<v Speaker 2>the trans issue. Is that is that gonna fly anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>At least for the foreseeable future. They're just digging in

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<v Speaker 2>on You think they're not gonna abandon this hill, They're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna keep fighting on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, no, no, there's two different things. You say.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they gonna abandon this hill? Are they are the

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fly? It's still gonna fly until the script flips.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the script is gonna flip very quickly

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<v Speaker 1>on this issue because there's i know, like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people think, oh, the Democrats are rather left or

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<v Speaker 1>all stupid. There's a lot of smart people in that

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<v Speaker 1>party and in that movement, and they can see the

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<v Speaker 1>right in the wall. This is also alienating Trump got

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<v Speaker 1>if you just get enough black men or enough gaze,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna flip some states and flip some races. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's plenty of gay people who are very uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>that they have to fight for decades like they're dudes

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<v Speaker 1>who like dudes and that doesn't make them a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they're being told who wah you actually are

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<v Speaker 1>Woman's like who wha wha wha whoa whoa whoa and

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<v Speaker 1>when you get kids involved, it gets even trickier. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to end up happening I predict, and I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you're gonna agree with me, is corporate media are

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<v Speaker 1>going to pave the way by writing articles about the

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<v Speaker 1>OH hormones have side effects we never thought of, and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about these transitioners and the hidden costs of medical

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<v Speaker 1>transitioning an early age and maybe we should wait. And

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<v Speaker 1>when that happens, the politicians will have the space with

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<v Speaker 1>their audience to follow suit. So they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>back away. But whatever Oliver says, he could say, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how ridiculous it is, the more ridiculous, the more

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be proud to champion it, because that's how faith works.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this is if you're in a cult,

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<v Speaker 2>the best, the closest person in the cult, of the

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<v Speaker 2>cult leader is always the one who's like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to sleep with my wife because you say

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<v Speaker 2>I can't, but you can sleep with my wife, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the utter devotion and debasement of reason and reality.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask about the Doge team and what

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<v Speaker 2>I am concerned that Elon, who I think is as

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<v Speaker 2>impressive a person in terms of accomplishment as exists in

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<v Speaker 2>our lifetime and perhaps many lifetimes. I am concerned that

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<v Speaker 2>Elon is about to run into the buzzsaw of bureaucratic

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<v Speaker 2>intransigence and federal judges who are absolutely devoted to the

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<v Speaker 2>communist cause here, et cetera, et cetera, and that this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be much harder than people are getting a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of. Right now, what do you think are you

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<v Speaker 2>Are you optimistic about this or do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>when they say they're gonna get rid of whole government departments?

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<v Speaker 3>Really yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I By the way, I really appreciate that you have

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<v Speaker 1>this perspective, because so many people were like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we want it's over. It's like okay, like Slayer roles

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<v Speaker 1>like that. One of the points I made, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure obviously you're going to agree, is these mess deportations.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a gigantic infrastructure to maintain these legal immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>in America, including plenty of people in the judiciary. And

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<v Speaker 1>if the judiciary rules against Trump, it's not like Ice

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be like, well, we're just gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with the president ignore the judicial system says that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how it works. So that is going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>issue in terms now in terms of self deportation of

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<v Speaker 1>something different in terms of what you're talking about. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Elon is really I think a lot of politicians

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<v Speaker 1>are more naive, like they really thought, Okay, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into government, we have the Republican majority, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start cutting stuff. And then you get there and

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<v Speaker 1>you realize every single program in DC has someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>sponsoring it and that's their pet project and no one

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<v Speaker 1>wants to cut it. Elon, of course is not a

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans are being elected, and as a CEO and Vivek

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<v Speaker 1>as well, he's going to have a much better approach about, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's producing return on investment, what's just a cost, and

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<v Speaker 1>what's you know, politically costly. So he's gonna make some

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<v Speaker 1>great recommendations. I hope. I hope Trump's ego works in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the classical CEO does, which is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the company. I'm going to hire brilliant people.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to run the departments, They're gonna figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what to do. Then they're gonna come back to with recommendations.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take the recommendations and I get all the credit.

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<v Speaker 1>A genius how I thought all these things fine, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Trump is a nuts and bolts guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way Reagan wasn't. He had a good staff.

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<v Speaker 1>He just had the big picture you guys figured out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Elon knows very well how to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with bureaucracies. Now, the Washington bureaucracy is a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>powerful and entrenched than any companies had to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember vividly and I thought about this week

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years ago. I was in college and made a

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<v Speaker 1>speaker from New Zealand and they had had a right

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<v Speaker 1>of center. I don't remember. The party was government and

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<v Speaker 1>they were privatizing things. And what they had done is

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<v Speaker 1>they did it basically like snowball, Like they privatized one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and before people had a chance to freak out, they

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<v Speaker 1>privatized the other. The prize, you know, at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 1>like they no one knew how to keep up. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's different because of parliament, right, so you just if

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<v Speaker 1>you have the majority, you could do basically what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am hopeful that I'm certain Elon realized, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be called fascist already, you're gonna be called radical,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be called extreme. If you're gonna pay the cost,

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<v Speaker 1>you might as well spling for the fences, because they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to call you that anyway. So why go for

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<v Speaker 1>five when you could get seven? And why go for

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<v Speaker 1>seven when you get ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I do love his philosophy of if you don't cut

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<v Speaker 2>too much, you haven't cut enough, because I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you from a government side of things, meaning you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't go to the place where you go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we should put that little piece back, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe maybe we should scale this down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You're probably nowhere near where you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to be to affect effect real change, honestly, but

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<v Speaker 1>if even one department gets cut, this is so major

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the Overton window and showing people that

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<v Speaker 1>this is possible. It will also put great pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>governors to look at their states and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>look at me, I cut this department in my state.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the kind of trickle down effect that could

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<v Speaker 1>be really powerful, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think also there's the biggest freak out we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>so far. Some people would say that it's Matt Gates

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<v Speaker 2>as Attorney General. In terms of the nominees, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about the RFK junior factor at HHS and

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<v Speaker 2>what the system will do Because people think AJHS, I

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<v Speaker 2>think CDC they had, like Medicare is in there. We

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about a multi trillion dollar agency in our

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<v Speaker 2>multi trillion dollar healthcare industry. And a guy showing up

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<v Speaker 2>who's like everyone's too fat and sick and the drug

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<v Speaker 2>companies are lying about stuff. I think that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>shake some cages.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no question though that our off case at

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<v Speaker 1>old school lefty and Medicare is one of their favorite things.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's not going to cut in terms of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not having poor people or unhealthy people have access to healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a really concern what lefties were best at

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<v Speaker 1>and they abandoned like since Romney, and I'm shocked that

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<v Speaker 1>conservatives picked up this baton is being skeptical of corporations.

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<v Speaker 1>When you remember, you and I both remember very vividly

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<v Speaker 1>that this Chamber of Commerce guy is the quintessential Romney Republican,

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<v Speaker 1>Republican through and through, and there were those riots in

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<v Speaker 1>the world in the was Seattle where you had these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of globalist organizations. All the lefties don't trust Monsanto.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we should be skeptic, Occupy Wall Street. Then

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<v Speaker 1>overnight big pharma can do no wrong. Just shove whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they tell you in your body and there can't possibly

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<v Speaker 1>be long term side effects. That's ridiculous. That's tin foil

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<v Speaker 1>hat Alex Jones theory. So for RFK to bring the

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<v Speaker 1>skepticism of big pharma to government is something I think

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<v Speaker 1>is superbly healthy. He's completely correct that if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at photos of people in the sixties to now on

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<v Speaker 1>the beaches, the fact that mobility scooters are a thing

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<v Speaker 1>is insane, you know, to that extent. And you also

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<v Speaker 1>remember when we were kids that we were told low

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<v Speaker 1>fat food, high carb food keeps you skinny, totally the worst,

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<v Speaker 1>the worst part.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't eat don't eat red meat, don't eat real butter,

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<v Speaker 2>don't eat real fat, saturated fat. It's going to give

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<v Speaker 2>you a heart attack. All all garbage, all bad advice actually.

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<v Speaker 1>And now people are paying the price for it. So'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very hopeful what he could do. And also I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's so much corruption and you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know this from a let's get a little granular. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is something key. There are right now cures for

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<v Speaker 1>different types of cancer, but you can't get them through

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<v Speaker 1>the FDA because basically, like if you have a pill

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<v Speaker 1>and I have like a remix of that pill, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've done the Jones on that. But if I have

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<v Speaker 1>a pill that will cure like let's say post breast cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to jump through so many hoops because it's new,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the time to get it to mark and the

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<v Speaker 1>cost is exorbitant. And result of this, people are dying

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<v Speaker 1>like right now. So this is something where when people

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<v Speaker 1>realize when bureaucracy is bad and they say it's inefficient,

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<v Speaker 1>Inefficient doesn't mean just things cost more money. It means

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<v Speaker 1>people are dying for no reason. Yes, and I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>hopeful that RFK can and Vivek as well has background

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<v Speaker 1>in this area, can and can do some much useful chainsawing.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to come back in a second here with you, Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to want you to tell me how

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<v Speaker 2>you think the left rallies on what issue, who leads

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<v Speaker 2>the rally? How do you see this happening? Because right

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<v Speaker 2>everyone I know, right now everyone's were like dancing around

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<v Speaker 2>the ring. After the first you know, the first knockdown,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna get up. They always do, so I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of want to know how you see that happening and

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<v Speaker 2>m a n tis x dot com. Mister Malice, how

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<v Speaker 2>does the left rally like? How does the Empire of

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<v Speaker 2>Evil strike back?

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<v Speaker 1>I think what I mentioned earlier, if he starts going

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<v Speaker 1>for these deportations, that's the kind of stuff that makes

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<v Speaker 1>for good news footage. If people are getting ripped out

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<v Speaker 1>of houses, people are getting rounded up, it's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing where it's going to be heartbreaking for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. The media is going to do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they can to get the most juice out of that squeeze.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is an enormous vested interest among huge

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<v Speaker 1>sections of the left and the Republican Party of having

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<v Speaker 1>mass migration as much as possible. So this is the

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<v Speaker 1>one where they're going to dig in their heels. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also think this is the one where he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be going forward. First. I think people remember in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, like one of the first things he did

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<v Speaker 1>overnight with no warning was to have that travel band

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<v Speaker 1>from Muscle majority several MUSLM majority countries, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>complete chaos at the airports. So this like if all

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<v Speaker 1>you if you asked him what the big issues for him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he hammered this over and over during the debates

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<v Speaker 1>and the campaign, immigration, immigration, immigration, I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>where and this is also going to feed into their

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing about him being a Nazi and white national

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth. They've laid the groundwork to

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<v Speaker 1>and like, see, I told you so about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is the most powerful Democrat in the country right now?

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<v Speaker 2>When you say Pelosi, I'm asking you you tell me

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Pelosi. Here's something everyone agrees on. Biden

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<v Speaker 2>sat with George Stephanopolis and he said I'm not stepping

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<v Speaker 2>down unless there's an act of God. That Sunday morning,

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<v Speaker 2>his I think was campaign manager or chief of staff,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever was on the Sunday Morning shows. Biden's not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>That afternoon, he released a statement on Twitter. I have

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt that he got that.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Halpern's reporting is correct, that he got sat down

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<v Speaker 1>by powerful Democratic leaders that said, Okay, we try this

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<v Speaker 1>a nice way. Now we're moving on to threats. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the rumor was. They said we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to twenty fifth the meend me you maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>threatened hunter.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to cross Nancy Pelosi, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>she's a very scary individual and she's ruthless, so and

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<v Speaker 1>she's clearly been behind the scenes steering policy, so on

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. So if I had to put money

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<v Speaker 1>on who's the most powerful, it would be her.

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<v Speaker 2>But what about in terms of running and running for

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<v Speaker 2>office and running the party going forward? Right, Pelosi's got

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<v Speaker 2>limited time. I think she's not speaker anymore, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>she might be the most powerful voice behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think your anecdote relays that. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if this is Donald Trump's Republican Party, do you see

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<v Speaker 2>is it even a handful of names? I mean, is

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<v Speaker 2>it Do you think that they're really going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to rally around avenuwsome Gretchen Whitmer, somebody else that's

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<v Speaker 2>not really on the radar. To me, it just feels

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<v Speaker 2>like they don't have a torch bearer, you know. The

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<v Speaker 2>main person that they're going to want to turn to

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<v Speaker 2>to make the case against Trump is who, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>is AOC the most powerful young brand in the Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>Party right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Buck, it's the New York Times that's the leader of

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party. It's always the New York Times. It's

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<v Speaker 1>never Pelosi or Schumer or Kim Jeff And these people,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the ones who make the arguments, They're the ones

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<v Speaker 1>who destroy their opponents. They're the ones who pick the

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<v Speaker 1>issues that are going to be important. AOC I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think has much of a brand left other than like

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<v Speaker 1>for boomer conservatives to hate on. And I think the squad.

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<v Speaker 1>Pelosi did a great job and getting the squad to

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and shut up, and that was her doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But The New York Times is by far the leaders

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<v Speaker 1>of the Democratic Party, and they have been for quite

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<v Speaker 1>some time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone's really spent much time at least

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this. But it is very unusual for an

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<v Speaker 2>election cycle to happen and for both the incumbent president,

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<v Speaker 2>the nominee of the party, and the vice president on

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<v Speaker 2>that ticket to all have their political careers ended in

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<v Speaker 2>one fell swoop. And I think that that happened here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, usually you could have, like if you had

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<v Speaker 2>had Biden run and let's say Josh Shapiro was his VP,

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<v Speaker 2>people would blame Biden Shapiro. There's this vacuum now because

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<v Speaker 2>you use the Kamala option. Biden, you shoved the side

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<v Speaker 2>and Tim Wallas was a joke. So there's really nobody

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<v Speaker 2>who's sort of standing and waiting, as far as I

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<v Speaker 2>can see, waiting in the wings to take over.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is why we have to give President Biden

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<v Speaker 1>another medal of was it bettle freedom whatever he got

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<v Speaker 1>from Obama, because by forcing them to pick Kamal as

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<v Speaker 1>his successor, she's not in a position in twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>she can't go back to the Senate, she's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to run for government California. He ended her political career.

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<v Speaker 1>So we owe Joe Biden a great deal of thanks for,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sending this switchback to Salem.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I think his political legacy going forward,

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that people, certainly in some corners will

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<v Speaker 2>be writing about this is that Biden would have won.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are a lot of people who, whether

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<v Speaker 2>you agree with that or not, you can't run the

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<v Speaker 2>historical experiment. And they didn't give Biden a second shot,

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<v Speaker 2>and she got a lot less votes than Biden did,

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<v Speaker 2>So it is an interesting analogy. I want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you. You mentioned the New York Times last subject.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say one more thing? I think that's key?

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<v Speaker 1>Just one thing is this, Yeah, I think people need

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<v Speaker 1>to appreciate what a big loser Obama was because the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama brand of decolonizing whiteness, that whole DII school of thought,

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<v Speaker 1>was completely repudiated in this election by forcing her, who

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<v Speaker 1>has no credentials and no likability, in trying to install her.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the Obama model. I actually it's worse than that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's worse than that mouthlice because he also

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<v Speaker 2>he told one of the lies that more people have

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<v Speaker 2>woken up to at this point as a lie, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the very fine people Charlottesville lie. That is just

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<v Speaker 2>a lie. That is not a debate, there's no discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>And for Obama in campaign mode to really build up

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<v Speaker 2>to that as his like this is why you can't

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<v Speaker 2>vote for Trump, I think he disgraced himself even among

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of independent swing voters who used to like Obama.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I can name one. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>Chi Moth from the All In podcast. I think said

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<v Speaker 2>that that was a real breaking moment for him. He's like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>Obama just did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say two things. First all, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for saying lie instead of hoax, because a hoax

0:23:12.137 --> 0:23:14.177
<v Speaker 1>is like a practical joke and it's kind of fun,

0:23:14.217 --> 0:23:16.497
<v Speaker 1>and it's not the Charlotsville hoax. It's a good, very

0:23:16.497 --> 0:23:19.217
<v Speaker 1>good people lie. So credit to you. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't for social media, they would have gotten away

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Again, Obama is operating just like Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>was in a pre social media largely world where you

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<v Speaker 1>could take a clip out of context, characterize it and

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<v Speaker 1>no one's going to skeet the full context. And now

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<v Speaker 1>it's impossible because your account, my account, Obama's account, they

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<v Speaker 1>all look the same. On Twitter. He has more followers

0:23:39.897 --> 0:23:42.017
<v Speaker 1>than us, obviously, but the tweets look the same. So

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<v Speaker 1>all has to happen is he has to say something

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<v Speaker 1>and then any asshole, including myself, could just put up

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<v Speaker 1>the full context and you realize this isn't a mistake.

0:23:49.817 --> 0:23:53.777
<v Speaker 1>This person didn't miss hear or mischaracterize. He knows he's

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<v Speaker 1>a lie because maybe the first time it's like, oh crap,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I misspoke. Now, thank you for giving me context.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you keep doing it, you're doing it on purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, he absolutely was. Come in here on where

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<v Speaker 2>does the media go? We talk about the MSNBC turn

0:24:07.977 --> 0:24:10.337
<v Speaker 2>around with Morning Joe was hilarious stuff. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear mister Malice weigh in on this one. But you know,

0:24:14.297 --> 0:24:16.937
<v Speaker 2>Bear Creek Arsenal is the best kept secret in the

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<v Speaker 2>firearms industry. I was just out with the CEO Bearcreek

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<v Speaker 2>We're shooting the Grizzly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's his ar.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a nine millimeter. It's a great all American

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<v Speaker 2>gun company based right here in North Carolina that sells

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<v Speaker 2>premium handguns, for example, for less than five hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>They've also got the best selection of uppers, a whole

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<v Speaker 2>range of different calibers you can mix and match with

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<v Speaker 2>your lower receiver and have a lot of variability and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of optionality. So it's fantastic when you go

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<v Speaker 2>to Barkreek Garsenal's website to see what they've got. The

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<v Speaker 2>Grizzly retails for two hundred ninety five dollars on Bearcreek

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<v Speaker 2>an accurate, affordable handgun. Don't wait, go to Bearcreek Arsenal

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. That's Bear Creekarsenal dot com. So morning, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think this was I understand this is tactical retreat.

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<v Speaker 2>These people haven't changed, but there is a level of

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<v Speaker 2>humiliation here that I don't think that they were expecting

0:25:10.857 --> 0:25:13.017
<v Speaker 2>before the election, they would have to go through for

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<v Speaker 2>them to go for how do you go from telling

0:25:15.217 --> 0:25:19.577
<v Speaker 2>your audience that somebody is hitler too, I went and

0:25:19.657 --> 0:25:21.657
<v Speaker 2>hung out with him, and he's not that bad in

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<v Speaker 2>the span of two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you do that? It's worse.

0:25:25.537 --> 0:25:27.497
<v Speaker 1>So if you and I had a beef, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I argued, we could sit down and were like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's make nice. We used to be friends.

0:25:31.857 --> 0:25:34.657
<v Speaker 1>If I'm going after your wife, things are very different.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't like, okay, you've crossed the line. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to hate you. We could be in the

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<v Speaker 1>same room together. We're never going to be boys again, right,

0:25:41.177 --> 0:25:43.897
<v Speaker 1>And then vice versa. He went after them and their

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<v Speaker 1>marriage like repeatedly. So the fact that they have I mean,

0:25:48.737 --> 0:25:50.617
<v Speaker 1>and no one they didn't need to get their asses

0:25:50.617 --> 0:25:52.897
<v Speaker 1>on that plane, you know what I mean. So the

0:25:52.977 --> 0:25:56.577
<v Speaker 1>fact that they came groveling to me speaks to their character,

0:25:56.937 --> 0:25:58.697
<v Speaker 1>because it'd be one thing to say, you know what,

0:25:59.857 --> 0:26:03.217
<v Speaker 1>we overreacted, It backfired, and now we have to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with Trump again. And we're gonna deal with it because

0:26:05.177 --> 0:26:07.857
<v Speaker 1>that's the reality. We can't be infants throwing a tantrum.

0:26:08.137 --> 0:26:10.417
<v Speaker 1>But to go there and bend the knee to someone

0:26:10.417 --> 0:26:14.257
<v Speaker 1>who spit in your face, what kind of person are you? IgE?

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<v Speaker 1>Even lower than I thought?

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<v Speaker 2>And I just I don't understand how anyone watching them

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<v Speaker 2>can think that there's any credibility because this memory it's

0:26:23.817 --> 0:26:24.697
<v Speaker 2>not just Joe and Mika.

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<v Speaker 3>So I watch.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a habit of mine for certainly the

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<v Speaker 2>last like six months. I watched Morning Joe. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>watch the whole thing, but I will, Yeah, I watch

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<v Speaker 2>it to see what they're saying, because I find it.

0:26:34.577 --> 0:26:37.417
<v Speaker 2>I found it fascinating because they really were running this

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<v Speaker 2>endless loop of Trump is Hitler, Trump's a racist, Trump

0:26:40.377 --> 0:26:44.337
<v Speaker 2>fascism all the time, especially since Kamala became the nominee.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all just you know, you know, Trump's sexual assault,

0:26:47.257 --> 0:26:50.217
<v Speaker 2>Trump's a race, all the negative loop that they had

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and then trying to say that Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>was not a moron. It was fascinating to watch this

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<v Speaker 2>play out. But they bring on historians. We're like, oh,

0:26:57.857 --> 0:27:00.097
<v Speaker 2>I've written books on the founding fathers, Like let me

0:27:00.137 --> 0:27:03.057
<v Speaker 2>tell you Donald Trump is Hitler. I mean they've really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they've dirtied up a lot of people with this.

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<v Speaker 2>None of these people should be taken seriously ever again.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that the the legacy a term like

0:27:11.977 --> 0:27:14.657
<v Speaker 2>mister Malice taught me. Actually, we don't use mainstream here,

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<v Speaker 2>legacy media, legacy, democrat, media apparatus.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say legacy because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's corporate corporate I'm sorry, corporate legacy, corporate media or

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<v Speaker 2>corporate media.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, my legacy is wrong. At what this is being pedantic?

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<v Speaker 1>What's important? Legacy has a positive connotation. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>carry on your father's legacy, right, you want your kids

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<v Speaker 1>to carry on your legacy. It's a positive word. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you say legacy media, it gives them the gravitas

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<v Speaker 1>of something great that they're carrying forward. It's the I

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<v Speaker 1>think I hate that term. That's just my two cents. Well,

0:27:44.897 --> 0:27:46.857
<v Speaker 1>corporate media, that's the that's the Malice term.

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<v Speaker 3>I was getting it. You know, he comes on my show.

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<v Speaker 2>He he quibbles with me and then he makes he

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<v Speaker 2>makes memes where we see that that's the Easter Island

0:27:55.977 --> 0:27:59.537
<v Speaker 2>head and my head, and this is what he does

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<v Speaker 2>on this show. He makes it so that he makes

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<v Speaker 2>fun of my giant noggin, which is large, and I

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<v Speaker 2>will admit it. I will admit it, and he means

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<v Speaker 2>it and then he comes on here to correct my

0:28:10.377 --> 0:28:13.017
<v Speaker 2>spelling and my my parents are not my spelling, my

0:28:13.017 --> 0:28:13.817
<v Speaker 2>my word choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you disagree?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know, you're totally right. I just like I

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<v Speaker 2>try to give you crap back because now no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be I was, I was, I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking of legacy corporate media when I said, but

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<v Speaker 2>you you first, I remember you told me you're like

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<v Speaker 2>this term because it was very much in the conservative

0:28:30.617 --> 0:28:34.057
<v Speaker 2>mindset or millie oh whatever to say mainstream media. And

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, why you're saying, They're like, that's the what

0:28:37.177 --> 0:28:39.217
<v Speaker 2>the people watch and that's and I agree with you,

0:28:39.257 --> 0:28:41.617
<v Speaker 2>and that was maybe like pre COVID you told me that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've totally agree with that. And I really one

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<v Speaker 2>on legacy too. We need better words for the other side.

0:28:48.457 --> 0:28:50.257
<v Speaker 2>That is a challenge that we always have. We need

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<v Speaker 2>better words to describe.

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<v Speaker 1>And can I say one thing, don't say legal aliens

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign trespasser.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that what I would be a little a little different,

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<v Speaker 2>just because legal alien is the actual criminal code term

0:29:01.217 --> 0:29:03.257
<v Speaker 2>that's in the federal Like in the federal register and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else. But I guess you can call them what

0:29:05.737 --> 0:29:07.777
<v Speaker 2>you like, but that is the technical legal term.

0:29:08.017 --> 0:29:08.177
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:29:08.217 --> 0:29:09.217
<v Speaker 3>They've tried to change that.

0:29:09.497 --> 0:29:12.137
<v Speaker 2>They've changed that now, so now it's I think in

0:29:12.177 --> 0:29:16.337
<v Speaker 2>some documents federal because of Obama, I mean because of Biden.

0:29:16.377 --> 0:29:18.537
<v Speaker 2>I think they say undocumented now actually as a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of federal policy, but it's illegal aliens, foreign trespasser. That's

0:29:21.817 --> 0:29:24.737
<v Speaker 2>a much better term, though I would agree with it, right, yeah, no,

0:29:24.817 --> 0:29:28.097
<v Speaker 2>it really is. Well, that's that's what I think more

0:29:28.097 --> 0:29:31.457
<v Speaker 2>than anything else. I know, the trans issue became very

0:29:31.457 --> 0:29:33.217
<v Speaker 2>big in some of Moost commercials. I think though, what

0:29:33.377 --> 0:29:37.057
<v Speaker 2>lost in the election was they had no answer for

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<v Speaker 2>how'd you let ten million plus people you know whatever

0:29:39.297 --> 0:29:40.697
<v Speaker 2>the number is, twelve million, forty He.

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<v Speaker 1>Had no question. It wasn't a problem. You're making it up.

0:29:43.497 --> 0:29:45.817
<v Speaker 1>That was the point. If they had acknowledged this is

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<v Speaker 1>an issue, and this is how we're going to solve it,

0:29:48.257 --> 0:29:50.737
<v Speaker 1>and Trump won't, they would have been fine. But they

0:29:50.857 --> 0:29:53.337
<v Speaker 1>just gaslit and gaslet and gas lit and said it's

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<v Speaker 1>not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, but they said that Trump wouldn't sign the bill,

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<v Speaker 2>So they admit at some level that it's a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>or that Trump rather tried to kill the bill, but

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<v Speaker 2>up to that point they gasl it until the summer

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<v Speaker 2>before the election, and then they were like, we want

0:30:07.257 --> 0:30:09.857
<v Speaker 2>to take this seriously. And at that point everyone's like, well,

0:30:09.897 --> 0:30:13.217
<v Speaker 2>you're clearly that's bull like you're not in any ways.

0:30:13.337 --> 0:30:14.777
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, the what they've done to the country,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know if we can even

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<v Speaker 2>turn this thing around. So we shall have.

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<v Speaker 1>To see, Well, well, I'm sorry. You're a patriot, you

0:30:23.017 --> 0:30:25.457
<v Speaker 1>love this country, don't you say? Can we not turn

0:30:25.457 --> 0:30:29.777
<v Speaker 1>this thing around? This is America. Yeah, yes, we can

0:30:29.777 --> 0:30:30.377
<v Speaker 1>turn it around.

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<v Speaker 3>Come we can. We can.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a you know, I'll tell you. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you who said it, but uh you'll

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is malice humor. You'll appreciate this

0:30:40.057 --> 0:30:42.017
<v Speaker 2>because he said it to me, said it to me

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<v Speaker 2>off camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody though, when Christy Nome kind of pointed to DHS,

0:30:46.137 --> 0:30:49.617
<v Speaker 2>he said, which was I think was a suspect pick

0:30:49.697 --> 0:30:51.137
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people, because that's a very important

0:30:51.137 --> 0:30:53.777
<v Speaker 2>agency for what the main main mission of the administration is.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said, uh, well, I guess you want somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who shoots puppies for fun to be in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>deporting ten million legals.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, that is a malice line.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a malous one right there.

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<v Speaker 2>You could you can borrow that one if you're willing

0:31:10.937 --> 0:31:13.017
<v Speaker 2>to show that you can bollrow that one anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man.

0:31:14.177 --> 0:31:18.537
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was yeah, that was that said a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about the the kind of steely determination.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna need going forward, going forward on this.

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<v Speaker 2>When do I By the way, I'm gonna keep saying

0:31:26.137 --> 0:31:28.097
<v Speaker 2>this because we don't forget about going on Joe Rogan show.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been a guest on You're Welcome in a

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<v Speaker 2>very long time. So I'm just gonna say this right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I am putting a marker out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're like, I'm so glad that you just give

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<v Speaker 1>up on being a broken Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's like never gonna happen. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Sean Ryan's podcast amazing, great feedback, have a

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<v Speaker 2>great time three hours then, but you know, nope, no, Rogan,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all right, Do you want to be on next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, whatever you tell me, you just text.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's do it next next week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually traveling and working. It's Thanksgiving week? Can we

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<v Speaker 2>do the week after? Trying to get me on a

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<v Speaker 2>holiday week?

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<v Speaker 3>Look at this? Look at this, shady so ob you

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<v Speaker 3>want to do it? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>There, I give you the next slot and still complaining.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>The holiday week? He's like, hey, you want to come

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<v Speaker 2>on Christmas Eve? I know all the tricks, Malice. I

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<v Speaker 2>know all the tricks in this game, but yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably week. So if you knew all the tricks, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have been un rogain. Wow, so harsh on my own show.

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<v Speaker 2>Look what happens here, Michael Malice. Everybody, You're welcome is

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<v Speaker 2>the show if you can stomach all of his meanness,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually quite amusing and insightful, mister Malice. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>the audience enjoyed this prop prep and I can't even speak,

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<v Speaker 2>probably more than me, probably the most.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, mister Malice. You are fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Ptch your buck