WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 13

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Paul Paps. Paul, we made it two nights without football.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no matching yet. Not till October. But tonight, you

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<v Speaker 3>got much more football. You got some college. You got

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<v Speaker 3>some pro. You got Syracuse Pit. We'll take a little

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<v Speaker 3>sprinkle of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that makes my TV with a

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<v Speaker 2>new stadium in Buffalo. Not to mention a great game.

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<v Speaker 2>Bills and Lions. We'll get into that in a second. First,

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<v Speaker 2>if you watch the DP show. LSU Ole Miss, shenanigans

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<v Speaker 2>of football.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, alleged shenanigans with LSU Ole Miss. The backstory is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the prime games of the year in college football,

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<v Speaker 3>and LSU suddenly, on their injury report, Sam Leavitt, the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>is on it. Not even details of how he got

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<v Speaker 3>on it, where he got on it, but Wednesday night,

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<v Speaker 3>they listed Sam Leavitt as doubtful. Now, instantly, everyone thought, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is clearly Lane Kiffin playing with this, because nobody

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<v Speaker 3>saw Sam Leavitt get injured last week against La Tech,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it threw three picks. And I think we

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<v Speaker 3>all assume this is gamesmanship. How do you feel about

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<v Speaker 3>that right off the bat?

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<v Speaker 2>It's Lane Kiffin. Of course it's gamesmanship. Assumed gamesmanship. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked. On the Dan Patrick show, Dan and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else thought it was gamesmanship. But you thought maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there is a real injury here?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I went counter just to be counter a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit on this one because I don't think you

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<v Speaker 3>put someone on injury report unless it's real in college

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<v Speaker 3>football these days. The SEC, well, the SEC has rules

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<v Speaker 3>about this. You have to turn your injury report in

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<v Speaker 3>on Wednesday night. So he didn't have to tell the

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<v Speaker 3>media on Monday or Tuesday that Sam Leavitt is injured. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>they have to do an updated media report of injuries Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>then Friday, then 90 minutes before game time. According to

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<v Speaker 3>SEC rules. If you're listed as doubtful, that means 25%

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<v Speaker 3>chance or less of playing in Saturday's game.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul, the average college coach lies for a living. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how you get recruits. Lane Kiffin is much worse than

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<v Speaker 2>the average coach. Obviously, he's been moving around, and he

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<v Speaker 2>gets a lot of flack for that. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a huge problem with him going to LSU, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't trust him.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, is the move then, as gamesmanship, are you trying

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<v Speaker 3>to convince Ole Miss to prepare for another quarterback? Their

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<v Speaker 3>backup quarterbacks are Landon Clark— A transfer from Elon. Elon

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<v Speaker 3>was good football last year. Not to be confused with

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<v Speaker 3>Landry Clark, the wide receiver on Friday Night Lights.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Landry Jones, the backup quarterback in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jesse Plemons played Landry Clark. The other quarterback, redshirt

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<v Speaker 3>freshman quarterback, Houston Longstreet, another great name. Transfer from USC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, he's a five-star recruit. People were surprised that

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't the backup after they were blowing out Clemson.

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<v Speaker 3>But you don't buy any of this.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're going to see Sam Levitt. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Levitt's shoulder is the issue. He has not really

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<v Speaker 2>been throwing the ball that much. He's been running like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>LSU put up 300 yards against Clemson on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they want to run the ball anyway. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you need a shoulder for for that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you need at least one shoulder to take the snap.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say that's a really interesting point is that

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Levitt, I think people assume when he came from

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona State, it's going to be just like James Daniels.

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<v Speaker 3>He came from Arizona State, plays well, wins a Heisman.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Levitt, good-looking kid. Good quarterback. He's going to ball out.

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<v Speaker 3>What if they don't have their quarterback? Not just injured,

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<v Speaker 3>but not great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing about Sam Leavitt at Arizona State, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a gamer. Fourth quarter, he's tough. He's competitive. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, there's only one real great Lane Kiffin quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in this game, and that's Trinidad Chambers. Your boy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Kiffin's a great OC. I don't know if Leavitt can

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<v Speaker 2>run the offense that Kiffin wants, but I think he

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<v Speaker 2>can scramble, which would be the key factor there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the spread I'm seeing is now at two and a half. LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>Favorite for LSU. Okay. I said, like, LSU because of

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<v Speaker 2>the ground game. Now, Ole Miss had some trouble with

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville in week one. Remember, they went to the very

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<v Speaker 2>end with that. Yeah, it was a battle. Save their bacon.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be a very interesting game, and

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<v Speaker 2>I am almost positive that Sam Leavitt will be there, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we do a show bet? Because at least you

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<v Speaker 2>have a question mark. I don't even have a question mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm not rooting for myself to win, but I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do a little keep it friendly on Sam Leavitt starting.

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<v Speaker 2>Started. I hope he doesn't come off the bench. If

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<v Speaker 2>he's ready to go, he better be in there from

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<v Speaker 2>the first play of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>They shoot him up at halftime and be like, North

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas 40, get him in there. The one last thing

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<v Speaker 3>about Lane Kiffin, tonight he has his coaches show. You

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<v Speaker 3>know they do that coaches show with the boosters and

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<v Speaker 3>the crowd. That's tonight at 7 o'clock local time, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you're going to get more about this injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you so sure about that? I don't know. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Lane Kiffin. He could definitely go no answer on

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<v Speaker 2>that one. He's like, I don't want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a player's health.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, tonight we got the big one. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a really nice Thursday night matchup. You got Bills at

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<v Speaker 3>their new stadium, the Highmark Stadium, hosting the Lions. Both

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<v Speaker 3>teams won week one, but both teams escaped with a

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<v Speaker 3>win in week one. How do you look at this one?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I like the Bills. Okay, so there's a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of emotion, obviously. The new stadium's getting a lot of hype.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Bills last week played a much better team

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<v Speaker 2>than the Lions did. The Lions beat the Saints. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bills took the best defense in the NFL to

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<v Speaker 2>task last week. Josh Allen dominated that game in the

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<v Speaker 2>air with his feet. I was incredibly impressed where Detroit,

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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, snuck past New Orleans. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a pretty lopsided game because Detroit's got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of injuries, Paul. Two linemen and their entire secondary out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not giving them my pick yet. Our picks, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>do them in about a half an hour. But I

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<v Speaker 3>will say this, this is like a double pressure game.

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<v Speaker 3>Pressure of opening a stadium, you're going to have like

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce Smith back in the house and all these old

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<v Speaker 3>players back in the house. And sometimes that sets up

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<v Speaker 3>for disappointment. The energy and then it just falls. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's a lot of pressure on the Lions to

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<v Speaker 3>have a statement game. Going into the season, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people predicted the Lions to get

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<v Speaker 3>back to where they were two years ago. And they're

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<v Speaker 3>like barely on the radar as a contender. And they've

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<v Speaker 3>got all the talent back. But if they could win tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>national TV, big crowd, away... Make a statement. They need

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<v Speaker 3>that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they need it, Paul. It's out of conference.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're getting a lot of guys back in about

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<v Speaker 2>four or five weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say it's a perception need, not a math need.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe because it's a national game. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Detroit is going to be a different team

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of the season. I think Buffalo has

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<v Speaker 2>all the pressure. Know what it reminds me of? Coach

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<v Speaker 2>K's last game at Cameron.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a good poll by you.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Duke had all that pressure a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Then North Carolina whooped them. So that'd be my fear

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<v Speaker 2>if I was Buffalo, that it becomes too much.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know what they're going to have there

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<v Speaker 3>at this new stadium. Maybe a new tradition. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they ring the bell at some places. Seattle does that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>If they bring out like Jim Kelly or Andre Reid

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<v Speaker 3>or guys like that and they start ringing bells. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>breaking tables.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's their thing, breaking tables. You can't come up

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<v Speaker 2>with another thing. That thing is so famous now.

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<v Speaker 3>So what would you have there? Would you have some

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<v Speaker 3>type of permanent broken table thing at the start, and

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<v Speaker 3>they just throw a lucky fan through it? If Jim

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly threw me through a table, I'd be honored.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, are you talking about pregame? Because there's probably been

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of fans who've already gone through tables in the

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot.

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<v Speaker 3>They're conditioned for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of obvious. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>they come up with something a little more original. But

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<v Speaker 2>it does have a feel of a celebration for Buffalo football.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember they did Hard Knocks there a couple years ago? Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to admit, Bill's fans are as loyal as

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<v Speaker 2>any fan base.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, what do you want to go to next?

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<v Speaker 3>You want to go to 0-1 teams?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, 0-1, because do you have any stats on what

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<v Speaker 2>0-2 teams need to do? Usually about 85% of them

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<v Speaker 2>will not make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the most popular stat in all of sports media.

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<v Speaker 3>0-2 teams, their chance of making the playoffs is usually low,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're going to be way ahead of that on

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<v Speaker 3>Not So Fast. The 0-1 team that most needs a

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<v Speaker 3>win this week, and I'm going to let you go first, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's obvious because of the preseason narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>The Los Angeles Rams better win this week. They face

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<v Speaker 2>a resurgent Giants team, but the Rams were everybody's Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl pick, dream team. They looked nothing like that in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was this narrative that, hey, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>fly into Australia at the last minute, so at least

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<v Speaker 2>we're ready for week two. So they get an extra

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<v Speaker 2>day here. It's on Monday night. They better be ready

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<v Speaker 2>to go. No Miles Garrett. Matthew Stafford did not look

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<v Speaker 2>good at all in the season opener. To me, that

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<v Speaker 2>is the most pressure by far around the whole NFL

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<v Speaker 2>because of all the preseason hype.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's national TV again. Then you've got the Broncos,

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<v Speaker 3>which should clean things up. The Eagles are always tough.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really tough for the Rams because... I still think

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<v Speaker 3>they'll be there at the end, but you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to get in a position where you're looking up in

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<v Speaker 3>that division going, we're not going to have home field.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if there's any year for the Rams to have

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<v Speaker 3>home field, nobody has to leave. Aaron Donald could stay

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<v Speaker 3>at home. You play the Super Bowl at home.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point. And, you know, remember they went

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<v Speaker 2>to Philly a couple years ago and it snowed. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And they almost beat the Eagles, but that is not

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<v Speaker 2>a situation they want, especially their old Paul. You know

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<v Speaker 2>old people don't like cold weather and snow. Me neither.

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<v Speaker 2>old people.

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<v Speaker 3>They're 36 years old. My 0-1 team that really needs

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<v Speaker 3>a win, I think this is biggest of all. I

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<v Speaker 3>would say it's the Green Bay Packers. Their head coach,

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<v Speaker 3>Matt LaFleur, he's catching a lot of heat this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes national heat and local heat is different. I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen a lot of national stories about Matt LaFleur and

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on there and the way he's letting wins

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<v Speaker 3>go away, not closing victories. They had a couple last year,

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<v Speaker 3>especially against the Bears, which are a big deal. That's

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<v Speaker 3>like a double loss. If they lose this weekend, it

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<v Speaker 3>just starts traction. It starts this traction that can't be

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<v Speaker 3>back from. Losing to the Jets is way worse, believe

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<v Speaker 3>it or not, than losing to Carson Wentz and the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 3>At least the Vikings are a decent team. Then you

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<v Speaker 3>look at their schedule coming up, it gets much tougher.

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<v Speaker 3>The Jets is supposed to be your easy win. So

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<v Speaker 3>I look at the Packers. If they lose this, not

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<v Speaker 3>just the math of staying in that division for even

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<v Speaker 3>a wild card, now your head coach is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>on the clock. And when they do those things, who's

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<v Speaker 3>most on the hot seat? I think his name would

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<v Speaker 3>go to number one if they lost this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>True, although the schedule dictates a pretty strong start. They

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't come out of this 3-1. Could be.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying the worst-case scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they really got to focus on holding

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<v Speaker 2>on to leads, and that means running the ball. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have Josh Jacobs. That's a problem. But to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a perception of are they a tough team? Are

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<v Speaker 2>they a mentally tough team?

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<v Speaker 3>Can they close?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think they can right now, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think they'll be okay against the Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Love, though, he's the kind of guy, like, I

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<v Speaker 3>love him for three quarters. I don't know I love

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<v Speaker 3>him in the fourth quarter. Caleb Williams is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the opposite. Sometimes Caleb Williams in the first three quarters

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<v Speaker 3>is like, are you going to get it together? And

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<v Speaker 3>then the fourth quarter, he's Superman. Jordan Love sometimes is

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<v Speaker 3>the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Bo Nix is another guy who will kill

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<v Speaker 2>you in the fourth quarter, doesn't do anything in the

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<v Speaker 2>first three quarters. But that's not Jordan Love's fault. Last

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<v Speaker 2>week he was getting demolished by those Vikings. No doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're going to turn to running backs in

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<v Speaker 2>our next segment. Can Derrick Henry reach the NFL rushing record?

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<v Speaker 2>Will he break Emmitt Smith's record? It's possible. That's next.

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<v Speaker 2>Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, Pearl. Pabst and Perloff, not so fast.

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<v Speaker 3>The midday pick me up. Not a shocker here. Bang him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one. Yeah, you don't throw that weak cheese to

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<v Speaker 3>my boy, Pete Crow Armstrong. And then for those who

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<v Speaker 3>were in the bathroom, he said, I'll just do another

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<v Speaker 3>one later. Two home runs for Pete Crow Armstrong. No

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<v Speaker 3>steals because He's always rounding the bases, rarely stopping at

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<v Speaker 3>first base.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Farrell. All right, we've done 14 episodes of

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<v Speaker 2>Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And the midday pick-me-up has been PCA seven times fall.

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<v Speaker 3>Six, seven, yeah, that sounds about right, but it's not

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<v Speaker 3>my fault he's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he better do something in the playoffs because

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<v Speaker 2>we were giving him a lot of love. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the MVP race is over. It's over. Not to put

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<v Speaker 2>pressure on you and your buddy PCA, but after all

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<v Speaker 2>these midday pick-me-ups, I want to see at least one

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<v Speaker 2>series victory.

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<v Speaker 3>In my mind, Pete and I are good friends. Pete,

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<v Speaker 3>keep it up. All right, back on Not So Fast, Pabst,

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<v Speaker 3>and Perloff. It's time for some warm takes. And now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go first, and I'm really excited about

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<v Speaker 3>this one because it's the Buffalo Bills' new stadium. I

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<v Speaker 3>love their new stadium. I love the look of it,

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<v Speaker 3>the colors of the seats, the grass. This grass... And

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<v Speaker 3>it pops, and there's no top on it. There's no dome.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's really cold in Buffalo and very snowy,

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<v Speaker 3>as everyone knows. And their fans said, no, we love this.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a couple reasons they went this way. They're not

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<v Speaker 3>getting a Super Bowl, so they didn't even try to

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<v Speaker 3>have a Super Bowl by putting a top on this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't think Buffalo would ever get a

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl because of the infrastructure of the town or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe visitors coming in. They're just like, fine. If I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a Buffalo Bills fan, I don't want a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>I want my team to be in a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>And the best way is to have a home field advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>And they still have it here. I am so sick

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<v Speaker 3>of these cookie-cutter stadiums that are being built. The Bears

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<v Speaker 3>are probably going to go with a top, which is

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<v Speaker 3>just disgusting. The Browns, it looks like a mall. The Titans,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to have a top on that. The Washington

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<v Speaker 3>Commanders are going to have a glass top. So you

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<v Speaker 3>can look outside and see the elements. You just can't

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<v Speaker 3>feel them. I once went to a Texans game, and

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<v Speaker 3>the tailgate was fantastic. I want to compliment the Texans tailgate.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I went inside, and it was 71 degrees,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was no air moving whatsoever. And it was

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<v Speaker 3>a nice scene, and it felt nice and comfortable. And

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have to put a jacket on. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get sunburned. I didn't have anything poured on me by

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<v Speaker 3>rain or a gutter. I want stadiums like this. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm afraid that we're in the cookie-cutter, mixed-use

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<v Speaker 3>stadium era, and open-air stadiums are just going away, and

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<v Speaker 3>the bills are an anomaly.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to ask you about the home field advantage, though.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me the Bills are built for a dome.

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<v Speaker 2>Their best player is a quarterback. They've just got a

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<v Speaker 2>great receiver, D.J. Moore. The outside team is the Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>Bears in 85, a great defense. That's not the Bills.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought the Bills drafted. I remember watching the

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<v Speaker 3>draft when Josh Allen came out of Wyoming, and they

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<v Speaker 3>said he's the perfect outdoor bad weather quarterback. He played

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<v Speaker 3>at Wyoming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he's from the sunniest part of California, Fireball, California.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're saying he's big and he can deal

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<v Speaker 2>with the weather, but they are generally not a team

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<v Speaker 2>that has an advantage in the snow. They'd be probably

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<v Speaker 2>better off playing indoors.

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<v Speaker 3>I could stay at home and watch football indoors and

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<v Speaker 3>have it 72 degrees. I want to go to a

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<v Speaker 3>stadium and get a little rain, get a little snow,

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<v Speaker 3>get a little atmosphere and wind and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>The Minnesota Vikings have a very cool stadium. You and

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<v Speaker 3>I were there. I thought it was a pretty cool stadium,

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<v Speaker 3>but the idea of being outdoors in Minnesota... I think

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<v Speaker 3>that could really help that team. I think it's too late.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a team that is. They had Kirk Cousins a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback for five years. That's a passing team.

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<v Speaker 3>He loves it indoors.

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<v Speaker 2>Forget it. All right. Well, you're just being a tough guy,

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<v Speaker 2>which I appreciate. Yeah. Okay. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers. And the reason I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers is because we keep forgetting to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers. This is a man who three years ago

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<v Speaker 2>controlled the entire narrative of the NFL. Every morning he

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<v Speaker 2>came into work and said, what did Aaron Rodgers say now?

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<v Speaker 2>This year, Aaron Rodgers is not even near the top headline.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember one thing he's done or said that

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<v Speaker 2>has captured everyone's attention. Now, he did rip some former teammates.

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<v Speaker 2>He said some outrageous things about his ex-girlfriend this summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody cared. I think Aaron Rodgers needs some attention. Then

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<v Speaker 2>he plays on Sunday against Atlanta. Now, on Sunday ticket,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do a quad box, Paul. That's the four

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<v Speaker 2>top games. Nobody puts Steelers Falcons in their quad box.

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<v Speaker 2>It was totally unwatchable. And that's who the Steelers are

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<v Speaker 2>with Aaron Rodgers right now. They're not really an interesting team.

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<v Speaker 2>They did throw the ball a lot. They didn't throw

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<v Speaker 2>the ball downfield. I think we're getting really used to

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers on the Steelers, and I don't think people

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<v Speaker 2>care anymore. He has become, Paul, late career Matt Ryan. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I see what you're saying. I can't tell. Are you

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<v Speaker 3>advocating for more talk about Rodgers because he's still pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good on the field, or just about media fatigue with

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<v Speaker 3>this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just sort of saying tongue-in-cheek Aaron Rodgers needs more

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<v Speaker 2>attention because it's unbelievable to me that people just don't

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<v Speaker 2>really care anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing I like what you mentioned about the

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<v Speaker 3>quad box. I use the quad box at home, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's an absolute fan judgment of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they could do this. Imagine if you had

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<v Speaker 3>feedback of what gets quad boxed the most because sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I'll look at a game and go, That's not even

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<v Speaker 3>making an octobox if there is such a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, how much time did you spend on Atlanta-Pittsburgh?

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<v Speaker 3>Not a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was nothing to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>As much as I like a Cooper Rush game as

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<v Speaker 3>much as the next guy, I can't watch that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's Patriots-Steelers this weekend. I don't think people are

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<v Speaker 2>fired up. That should be a premier matchup, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>at 1 p.m.

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<v Speaker 3>Good take by you. All right, my next warm take

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<v Speaker 3>is a bit of chatter lately about Derrick Henry, the

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<v Speaker 3>great running back. Everyone loves Derrick Henry. Some topics lately

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<v Speaker 3>about him competing for Emmitt Smith's rushing record down the line.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, okay, that makes sense. Derrick Henry's

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<v Speaker 3>having a first ballot Hall of Fame career. So the

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<v Speaker 3>past four years, let me give you some numbers here

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<v Speaker 3>with Derrick Henry. All records are made to be broken,

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<v Speaker 3>and we like that. We kind of, I think, would

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<v Speaker 3>root for this record to be broken, unless you're a

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboy fan or MS's family. Derrick Henry's at 13,162. MS

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<v Speaker 3>Smith is at 18,355.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a gap.

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<v Speaker 3>Derrick Henry's 32. The past four seasons, he averaged 1,600

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<v Speaker 3>yards per season. He would need to do that for

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<v Speaker 3>four more seasons, and he'd be 100 yards short. He'd

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<v Speaker 3>also be 37 years old. I'm hopeful. This guy's a monster.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in great shape. There are some things you need

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<v Speaker 3>in your 30s to run for 1,500 yards. You need

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<v Speaker 3>to be in perfect shape without injury. He's that. You

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<v Speaker 3>have to have a good quarterback so people can't focus

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<v Speaker 3>on you. He has that. You have to be on

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<v Speaker 3>a good team that features the run. He has that.

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<v Speaker 3>He is in position to finish up his career, his 30s,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe better than even Walter Payton, who had a great 30s.

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<v Speaker 3>But Derrick Henry, a long way to go, but a

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<v Speaker 3>breakaway back that also has power with Lamar Jackson. I

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<v Speaker 3>could see two more 1,500-yard seasons, and then the chase

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<v Speaker 3>is on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's got an extra game, more than Payton had

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<v Speaker 2>or Emmitt Smith had. I don't see this happening. Even

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Allen, who was fantastic in his mid-30s, was nowhere

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<v Speaker 2>near that many yards. So it's going to be tough.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know Derrick Henry looks like he's 22, not 32.

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<v Speaker 2>But when he's 35, he's not running for 1,500 yards, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>I look at this, and I think he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>have two more monster seasons, and then we can revisit

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<v Speaker 3>this and say, do you want to stick around and

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<v Speaker 3>pick off a couple— 900-yard seasons and chase this title.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Derrick Henry's already done enough. I think

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<v Speaker 2>his legacy is set. Obviously a Hall of Famer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>for my second warm take, I'm going to turn to

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<v Speaker 2>college sports. And if you've been following the Protect College

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Act, Congress is all up in the business of

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<v Speaker 2>college sports. But I'm not sure they're focusing on the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing. Now, last fall, my guy Michael Baumgartner of

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<v Speaker 2>Washington introduced a bill that would limit coaching and AD

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<v Speaker 2>pay around the sports. He said schools have published contract

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<v Speaker 2>data for their head coaches have amassed a one point

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<v Speaker 2>seven billion dollars in potential liabilities. This season alone, colleges

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<v Speaker 2>are on pace to pay for one hundred sixty nine

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<v Speaker 2>million for coaches not to coach. It's unbelievable. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was last year. And the numbers are just going up.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to see Lane Kiffin coach this weekend. He's

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<v Speaker 2>getting paid a ton. I think that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>longstanding tradition in college sports. that the young athletes get

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<v Speaker 2>some money, but most of the money goes to the adults.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the adults are more interested in protecting

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<v Speaker 2>their money than actually making college sports fair. Another thing,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's saying college sports is out of control. Guess what's

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<v Speaker 2>out of control as well? The TV ratings. Those are up.

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<v Speaker 2>And meanwhile, everyone's going after the student athletes, or... The athletes,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest here. Nobody is talking about coaching pay.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes up when there's a massive buyout like Jimbo

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<v Speaker 2>Fisher at Texas A &amp; M. But it should be

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<v Speaker 2>on people's minds. And people don't know, 80s are starting

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<v Speaker 2>to make a lot of money, Paul. Yes. Trev Alberts

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<v Speaker 2>at Nebraska is making over $ 2 million. They haven't done anything.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't won anything. The guy at Texas is getting

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<v Speaker 2>over $ 4 million next year. I could run Texas sports.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Texas sports. But the coaching is crazy. Obviously, these

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<v Speaker 2>are potential buyouts. I don't think Kirby Smart's going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but Georgia could be on the hook for over $ 100 million.

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<v Speaker 2>All we're hearing about is, oh, we're overpaying for this

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<v Speaker 2>tackle or that tackle. To me, coaching pay is something

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<v Speaker 2>to watch as well because the public is paying for

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<v Speaker 2>some of that money. Some of it is tax dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not really the case for the players. So if

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to put all this energy on limiting all

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<v Speaker 2>the players' money... We should also talk about the other people.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you you're spot on. I love that

0:19:19.609 --> 0:19:22.950
<v Speaker 3>you called Michael Baumgartner the representative of your guy. You

0:19:23.090 --> 0:19:24.030
<v Speaker 3>guys know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>You're tight.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the coaches would fight this one more

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<v Speaker 3>than anything. They will never cap their pay. And these

0:19:29.410 --> 0:19:31.910
<v Speaker 3>state schools, state schools, not just private schools, are paying

0:19:31.930 --> 0:19:34.280
<v Speaker 3>these monstrous buyouts, and they have to make cuts in

0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.619
<v Speaker 3>other departments because of this. It does feel like a

0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.040
<v Speaker 3>bubble that has to burst, this buyout culture. When A &amp;

0:19:39.740 --> 0:19:42.570
<v Speaker 3>M gets rid of their head coach, Jimbo Fisher— They're

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<v Speaker 3>still paying for that. They're going to pay for that

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<v Speaker 3>for decades. So it's really, really ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw what LSU did when Lane Kiffin kind of

0:19:47.950 --> 0:19:50.520
<v Speaker 2>became available. They threw all the money they could. In

0:19:50.540 --> 0:19:53.660
<v Speaker 2>the 90s, the NCAA tried to limit coaches' pay. And

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<v Speaker 2>guess what? The court said that's totally illegal, which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're trying to limit the players' pay, and the

0:19:59.550 --> 0:20:01.710
<v Speaker 2>courts are sort of sitting there. I'm curious if you

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<v Speaker 2>can do that. Something called capitalism, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard of it. I read about capitalism somewhere. All right,

0:20:06.230 --> 0:20:08.070
<v Speaker 3>it's time for a little game. Let's lighten the mood here.

0:20:08.090 --> 0:20:08.890
<v Speaker 3>You're hot and heavy there.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you. A little warm.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's play a little bit of who said it, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 3>You and I are tied at three quarters of a

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<v Speaker 3>point in three weeks of this show. It's embarrassing. Who

0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.379
<v Speaker 3>said this? I would have bet every asset that I

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<v Speaker 3>have in my family's name that we would have come

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<v Speaker 3>out in the second half and played a hell of

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<v Speaker 3>a lot better than we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems like Ryan Day of Ohio State, right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. Another blown lead, Matt LaFleur of Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go with LaFleur.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see who said it. I would have bet every

0:20:36.630 --> 0:20:38.449
<v Speaker 3>asset I have in my family's name that we would

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<v Speaker 3>have came out in the second half and played a

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<v Speaker 3>hell of a lot better than we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Sala, the Titans. You know, he should have made

0:20:44.230 --> 0:20:46.090
<v Speaker 3>that bet. If he really believes it, he should have

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<v Speaker 3>put all his chips in, or his family's chips, and said, hey,

0:20:48.990 --> 0:20:50.260
<v Speaker 3>let's spend some dough.

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<v Speaker 2>My challenge is Robert Sala didn't play well in the

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<v Speaker 2>first half, so I'm not quite sure why he would

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<v Speaker 2>say that about the second half. He had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of problems.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would like to make some bets with Robert

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<v Speaker 3>Sala because clearly he's not confident in his football team.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go next one for who said it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 2>Ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Here you go. Let's get this one. Speaking for myself,

0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.620
<v Speaker 3>I felt like crap all weekend. We had two days off,

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<v Speaker 3>and I did not feel right. Took a couple days.

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<v Speaker 3>I was good by Monday talking to some of the guys. Okay,

0:21:15.170 --> 0:21:19.070
<v Speaker 3>this clearly is a Rams player. I'm going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>It can't be Matt Stafford.

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<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't do this. I'm going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Devontae Adams?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going Sean McVay, head coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean McVay.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking for myself, I felt like crap all weekend. We

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.540
<v Speaker 3>had two days off, and I didn't. Did not feel right.

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<v Speaker 3>Took a couple days. I was good by Monday. Talking

0:21:38.780 --> 0:21:40.700
<v Speaker 3>to some of the guys. Some guys felt fine right away.

0:21:40.740 --> 0:21:43.179
<v Speaker 3>Some went through the same stuff. But I think we're

0:21:43.220 --> 0:21:45.730
<v Speaker 3>definitely all good by now. That is 49ers head coach

0:21:45.770 --> 0:21:47.830
<v Speaker 3>Kyle Shanahan. We should have guessed that one because after

0:21:47.869 --> 0:21:50.609
<v Speaker 3>the win, you could admit that the travel bothered you.

0:21:50.990 --> 0:21:53.609
<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely. No one has a problem with Kyle Shanahan

0:21:53.630 --> 0:21:56.220
<v Speaker 2>feeling bad. Sean McVay looked even worse. Not his hair.

0:21:56.380 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I think I get half a point for that because

0:21:57.740 --> 0:21:59.899
<v Speaker 2>I had a coach who played in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to score somewhere, so maybe a half a

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<v Speaker 3>point for that. All right, coming up. Let's talk more

0:22:03.830 --> 0:22:06.750
<v Speaker 3>about Lions Bills and the brand new stadium. Chris Brown,

0:22:06.770 --> 0:22:08.590
<v Speaker 3>their play-by-play man on radio, will join us to talk

0:22:08.670 --> 0:22:11.260
<v Speaker 3>all things Bills and the new Highmark Stadium. Stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. Not so fast. Perloff and Paps. Paul, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting so excited. I'm abnormally excited for an early season

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Thursday night game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no weather up there at Buffalo, but the new stadium,

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<v Speaker 3>all the shiny stuff, some former Bills in the building,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a great game. And who better to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about than Chris Brown, the voice of the Bills on

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Bills Radio Network. Chris, how fired up are we? Are

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<v Speaker 2>we ready to go?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's going to be something.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of pomp.

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<v Speaker 4>And circumstance involved for tonight's game, and we'll get to

0:22:42.500 --> 0:22:46.960
<v Speaker 4>witness all that on prime video. And then we'll have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of, I would say, people are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be surprised by how loud this stadium is going.

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<v Speaker 2>To be tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris, let me ask you something about the new building.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big fan of outdoor stadiums. When this started

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<v Speaker 3>a couple years ago and they started doing renderings and

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<v Speaker 3>things like that, was there ever talk of a dome

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<v Speaker 3>or a cover, and what was the fan reaction of that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there really wasn't any talk of a dome because

0:23:08.730 --> 0:23:10.710
<v Speaker 4>I think the cost was going to get too cost

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<v Speaker 4>prohibitive for what the state and county were willing to

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<v Speaker 4>commit to the project. And that combined with the money

0:23:19.230 --> 0:23:22.220
<v Speaker 4>that the Pagoulas put in It wasn't going to be

0:23:22.500 --> 0:23:25.260
<v Speaker 4>a realistic option, I don't think. And I think there

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<v Speaker 4>was also some preference to maintain the weather element here

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<v Speaker 4>in Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 2>I lost you there for a second, Chris. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>snowing in Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good to know that they never really considered. That's

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<v Speaker 3>understandable because I could see the fans saying, that's a no-go.

0:23:44.930 --> 0:23:45.690
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's our brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely. I mean, they love those stories where the

0:23:48.530 --> 0:23:50.650
<v Speaker 2>fans come out and shovel snow, get paid a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit by the Bills, get hot chocolate.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you do that if you had a day off?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely. Chris, you back with us? I'm here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We might have had some weather interference in Buffalo. Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question about the way the Bills have

0:24:02.710 --> 0:24:04.909
<v Speaker 2>been built over the years. They actually haven't built the

0:24:04.950 --> 0:24:08.709
<v Speaker 2>roster necessarily for cold weather. They're a passing team with

0:24:08.730 --> 0:24:11.350
<v Speaker 2>this great quarterback. Is there anyone who's ever said, you

0:24:11.390 --> 0:24:15.189
<v Speaker 2>know what, we need to be more defensive-oriented and more running-oriented,

0:24:15.270 --> 0:24:17.250
<v Speaker 2>although they are running the ball, to sort of fit

0:24:17.270 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 2>the elements late in the year?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, they did lead the league in rushing

0:24:21.900 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 4>last year. I mean, James Cook was the number one

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 4>rusher in football, so they can do that if they

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 4>need to. I kind of sense that Joe Brady wants

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<v Speaker 4>to lean into Josh Allen's arm a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>here and throwing it through the wind was never a

0:24:33.980 --> 0:24:36.619
<v Speaker 4>problem for Josh in the old place. And with the

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.420
<v Speaker 4>contour of this new stadium having a higher profile and

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:46.330
<v Speaker 4>incorporating what the engineers call wind confusion, the wind in

0:24:46.369 --> 0:24:48.869
<v Speaker 4>the stadium is going to be far lesser than it

0:24:48.990 --> 0:24:52.300
<v Speaker 4>used to be. They believe they've cut it by more

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<v Speaker 4>than 50%.

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<v Speaker 2>So even when it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Windy outside, it's not going to be windy in there.

0:24:57.859 --> 0:25:01.909
<v Speaker 4>And I did a tour last October, and it was

0:25:01.950 --> 0:25:04.150
<v Speaker 4>a windy day when we went over there. And you're

0:25:04.210 --> 0:25:07.070
<v Speaker 4>leaning into the wind gusts to get into the stadium.

0:25:07.090 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 4>Then you get inside, and it's barely discernible. So the

0:25:11.660 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 4>engineers got it right. Wind is rarely going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a factor in this stadium anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Brown, Doppler 4,000. Good breakdown there, Chris. I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that about the win. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 3>you about Joe Brady. You mentioned he's the new head coach.

0:25:24.330 --> 0:25:25.830
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people still remember him at

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<v Speaker 3>LSU in 2019 with Joe Burrow and how much success

0:25:28.710 --> 0:25:31.389
<v Speaker 3>he had there. We only have one game. You see

0:25:31.410 --> 0:25:33.290
<v Speaker 3>the team much more than we do. Do you expect

0:25:33.310 --> 0:25:35.590
<v Speaker 3>the offense to look different and in what way or

0:25:35.630 --> 0:25:36.750
<v Speaker 3>more similar than last year?

0:25:37.430 --> 0:25:39.230
<v Speaker 2>I think there's going to be more downfield passing.

0:25:39.570 --> 0:25:42.490
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Josh's yards per attempt went down to the

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<v Speaker 4>lowest they've been in his entire career last season. And

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.460
<v Speaker 4>it's because they really didn't have a true outside X receiver.

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 4>They didn't have downfield threats they could count on week

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<v Speaker 4>in and week out. That was due in part to

0:25:55.220 --> 0:25:57.380
<v Speaker 4>the fact that Josh Palmer was nicked up all last

0:25:57.420 --> 0:26:01.090
<v Speaker 4>season after the hip drop tackle in week six at Atlanta.

0:26:01.470 --> 0:26:03.230
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't right the rest of the year. Couldn't really

0:26:03.290 --> 0:26:07.149
<v Speaker 4>run well. He's healthy now. You've added DJ Moore, who

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<v Speaker 4>I think proved he can be a downfield threat in

0:26:09.210 --> 0:26:10.700
<v Speaker 4>his debut performance last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Five catches, 100 yards, and a touchdown.

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 4>And you couple that with Khalil Shakir and a healthy

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 4>Dalton Kincaid who can get downfield. I mean, Dalton Kincaid

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 4>averaged 26 yards a catch last week. He has one

0:26:23.780 --> 0:26:26.389
<v Speaker 4>of the best defenses in football. So I think the

0:26:26.450 --> 0:26:28.750
<v Speaker 4>downfield element is going to be far more present in

0:26:28.770 --> 0:26:29.650
<v Speaker 4>this passing game now.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, talk about tonight's matchup. The Lions have injuries on

0:26:33.190 --> 0:26:35.430
<v Speaker 2>the offensive line, and we know a lot about their

0:26:35.630 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>injuries in the secondary. When the Bills are scouting this game,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've done it all week, where are they

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<v Speaker 2>trying to attack Detroit?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I think they want to start with

0:26:45.980 --> 0:26:48.340
<v Speaker 4>the run game, much like they did last week. I

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 4>think they want to just stay in favorable down and

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 4>distance to leave Joe Brady's playbook wide open. Because third

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 4>and longs are not fun with Aiden Hutchinson coming screaming

0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 4>off the edge there. So I think they just want

0:26:59.619 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 4>to stay in manageable down and distance so the full

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.050
<v Speaker 4>menu is open. But with the success that this passing

0:27:05.090 --> 0:27:09.030
<v Speaker 4>game had last week against the number six defense against

0:27:09.070 --> 0:27:12.730
<v Speaker 4>the pass in the league last year, and knowing that

0:27:13.590 --> 0:27:16.650
<v Speaker 4>The two starting safeties for this Detroit Lions team, they're

0:27:16.690 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 4>on PUP right now. Brian Brandt not playing, Kirby Joseph

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.540
<v Speaker 4>not playing. No offense to Avante Maddox or to Chuck Clark,

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 4>who had a pick last week against New Orleans, but

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 4>they're not those guys. So I think the middle of

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 4>the field is going to try to get exploited by

0:27:30.940 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 4>this Bills passing game.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris, I want to go back briefly before we let

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 3>you go to the stadium. I know you've got to work.

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.460
<v Speaker 3>You're working right now. What is the coolest thing inside

0:27:38.609 --> 0:27:42.100
<v Speaker 3>or outside the stadium, tailgate or inside? And the obvious

0:27:42.140 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 3>question is, at the concession stands, which I know you

0:27:44.180 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 3>can't really go to, are wings available for the fans?

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.010
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Yes, they are.

0:27:50.050 --> 0:27:52.649
<v Speaker 4>That's kind of a major obvious one there. But I

0:27:52.830 --> 0:27:55.950
<v Speaker 4>understand why you're asking it. Yeah, they're going to have those.

0:27:56.010 --> 0:27:58.129
<v Speaker 4>I don't think there's any question about that. I think

0:27:58.170 --> 0:28:00.890
<v Speaker 4>the coolest thing is some of the technology, because Bills

0:28:00.910 --> 0:28:03.070
<v Speaker 4>fans have been without a lot of the modern amenities

0:28:03.109 --> 0:28:04.949
<v Speaker 4>that a lot of other fans around the league have

0:28:05.010 --> 0:28:08.050
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed in far newer stadiums. And they have one of

0:28:08.090 --> 0:28:11.910
<v Speaker 4>these checkout areas where you literally just walk in, you

0:28:11.970 --> 0:28:15.930
<v Speaker 4>pick up whatever you want, and electronic cameras see what

0:28:15.970 --> 0:28:18.630
<v Speaker 4>you're picking up, and you just have your card, you

0:28:18.650 --> 0:28:20.540
<v Speaker 4>walk out with it, and you're good to go. They

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.380
<v Speaker 4>want to get people back in the seats as quick

0:28:22.420 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 4>as they can because they want fans in the seats

0:28:25.100 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 4>to make it as loud as possible watching the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, have a great time tonight. Good luck with the

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.700
<v Speaker 2>new stadium. It sounds awesome. We'll be watching. Yeah, thanks, guys.

0:28:32.740 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Enjoy it. Yeah, I know exactly what he's talking about

0:28:35.820 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>on the sort of self-checkout That's really cool. You know,

0:28:39.540 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I've been to Buffalo a few times. He's right. That

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:42.770
<v Speaker 2>old stadium was not much to look at.

0:28:42.980 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the wind thing being down, that's the thing

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.780
<v Speaker 3>I did not know about. I had to ask about

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:48.940
<v Speaker 3>the wings. I know it's an obvious answer, yes, but

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.300
<v Speaker 3>wings at a football game, that's a messy dish. Usually not,

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.060
<v Speaker 3>except for Buffalo, you know, a lot of napkins, you're

0:28:55.100 --> 0:28:57.180
<v Speaker 3>on your lap. That could be a disaster. But people

0:28:57.260 --> 0:28:58.370
<v Speaker 3>in Buffalo know how to handle them.

0:28:58.940 --> 0:29:01.550
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. All right, let's turn to college football. There's some

0:29:01.610 --> 0:29:03.710
<v Speaker 2>news out of North Carolina. There's always news out of

0:29:03.750 --> 0:29:09.270
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. Assistant coach Steve Belichick has officially resigned, Paul.

0:29:09.410 --> 0:29:10.010
<v Speaker 2>Is that the word?

0:29:10.090 --> 0:29:13.950
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he resigned. They're wrapping up their self-investigation. There's another

0:29:13.990 --> 0:29:16.910
<v Speaker 3>investigation by a local TV station going on with UNC football.

0:29:17.300 --> 0:29:20.500
<v Speaker 3>Michael Lombardi, the GM, a couple weeks ago, goes. Steve Belichick,

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 3>a lot of smoke around him, no pun. And they

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:27.180
<v Speaker 3>said now he is resigning as defensive coordinator of the program.

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 3>And what's interesting is they're 2-0. They're 2-0 with two

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:35.110
<v Speaker 3>nice wins, the TCU win. And they're at Clemson this weekend.

0:29:35.530 --> 0:29:38.690
<v Speaker 3>If somehow UNC football can beat Clemson, and then you

0:29:38.710 --> 0:29:42.340
<v Speaker 3>get a week off, then you're Notre Dame, home, national TV,

0:29:42.780 --> 0:29:45.220
<v Speaker 3>two undefeated teams. They could still win their way out

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 3>of this. When I say they, I mean Bill Belichick.

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.820
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. You know, I don't love the Nepo baby narrative

0:29:49.860 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>all the time. Steve Belichick really felt like an Epo baby.

0:29:53.260 --> 0:29:55.140
<v Speaker 2>Did they really need him? If you have the dad there,

0:29:55.180 --> 0:29:56.190
<v Speaker 2>what do you need Steve there for?

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:57.900
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to know how much he did or didn't do,

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 3>but the fact that he's resigning and his father is

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 3>letting him resign for the good of the program shows

0:30:03.180 --> 0:30:04.670
<v Speaker 3>how tenuous this situation is.

0:30:04.750 --> 0:30:08.650
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bill Belichick obviously now has to answer to higher powers.

0:30:09.330 --> 0:30:11.030
<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick had won a lot last year. I think

0:30:11.050 --> 0:30:12.530
<v Speaker 2>he would do whatever he wanted, but that is not

0:30:12.570 --> 0:30:12.870
<v Speaker 2>the case.

0:30:13.250 --> 0:30:14.910
<v Speaker 3>Clemson this weekend. All right, before we go, we like

0:30:14.930 --> 0:30:16.550
<v Speaker 3>to do the rando. Something we saw on the Internet,

0:30:16.630 --> 0:30:18.810
<v Speaker 3>and everyone saw this one on the Internet, Let me

0:30:19.090 --> 0:30:22.180
<v Speaker 3>throw you out to Hudson Speedway in New Hampshire, Pearl.

0:30:22.580 --> 0:30:24.860
<v Speaker 3>Check out what's going on here. A truck with a

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.180
<v Speaker 3>trailer and other random cars. I think that's like a

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Honda Civic trying to get on the back of the

0:30:30.380 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 3>trailer in real time.

0:30:32.260 --> 0:30:32.700
<v Speaker 2>Incredible.

0:30:32.900 --> 0:30:35.950
<v Speaker 3>This is called King of the Hill Trailer Race Hudson Speedway.

0:30:36.510 --> 0:30:38.830
<v Speaker 3>I watched this probably 30 times yesterday. Your thoughts?

0:30:38.850 --> 0:30:40.810
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, there's talk of it becoming the new

0:30:40.850 --> 0:30:43.910
<v Speaker 2>national pastime. It's so popular. People love this clip more

0:30:43.950 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 2>than anything. Do you think you could do it, Paul?

0:30:45.980 --> 0:30:48.100
<v Speaker 3>You know I like to think I can drive and

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll throw around my relationship with the great Tony Stewart. Yes,

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:52.900
<v Speaker 3>I would like to do this. I would volunteer. I

0:30:52.940 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 3>would pay the entrance fee. I have an old F-150.

0:30:56.860 --> 0:30:58.700
<v Speaker 3>I think I could get up there. That's a nice

0:30:58.760 --> 0:30:59.300
<v Speaker 3>effort right there.

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a good parallel parker. I think that skill would

0:31:01.420 --> 0:31:04.540
<v Speaker 2>come in. I'm not a great driver per se. Yeah,

0:31:04.580 --> 0:31:07.980
<v Speaker 2>this is incredible. This probably is the biggest social media

0:31:08.010 --> 0:31:09.650
<v Speaker 2>clip of the year. It's incredible. Everywhere I look.

0:31:09.770 --> 0:31:11.390
<v Speaker 3>You know, we have to do a show. Otherwise, I

0:31:11.410 --> 0:31:13.430
<v Speaker 3>could just watch this over and over and over again.

0:31:13.450 --> 0:31:16.030
<v Speaker 2>All right, coming up next, Jason Tatum was on the

0:31:16.070 --> 0:31:18.970
<v Speaker 2>Dan Patrick show. He had an interesting comment on his

0:31:19.070 --> 0:31:21.470
<v Speaker 2>former teammate, Jalen Brown. We'll get into it. Not so fast.

0:31:27.970 --> 0:31:31.910
<v Speaker 1>Why have an oversight committee if you don't have any power?

0:31:31.930 --> 0:31:33.630
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:31:36.060 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand this. This is really, really simple. You

0:31:40.620 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>added one second. You shouldn't take away the one second.

0:31:45.060 --> 0:31:47.750
<v Speaker 1>You take away the one play, and we know the result.

0:31:48.580 --> 0:31:51.660
<v Speaker 1>That's it. This is the one case where you can

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:56.050
<v Speaker 1>say with absolute certainty, we added a second, shouldn't been there.

0:31:56.410 --> 0:31:59.770
<v Speaker 1>They shouldn't have gotten another play. It's like, let's say

0:31:59.790 --> 0:32:03.630
<v Speaker 1>you turned in a project and the teacher said, no,

0:32:03.650 --> 0:32:05.930
<v Speaker 1>you turned it in too late. I'm sorry. I'm going

0:32:05.950 --> 0:32:07.610
<v Speaker 1>to have to give you an F. And then you

0:32:07.650 --> 0:32:10.500
<v Speaker 1>find out, no, you actually turned it in on time.

0:32:10.700 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I already ruled. I don't have the power

0:32:14.220 --> 0:32:17.100
<v Speaker 1>to overturn this, but I agree with you. I agree

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:17.459
<v Speaker 1>with you.

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Back on Not So Fast, Pabst and Perloff, NBC Sports

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.260
<v Speaker 3>Now and Peacock. I love this clip from today because

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.900
<v Speaker 3>I saw this last night and I texted over to Dan.

0:32:26.940 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 3>I said, did you know there was an oversight committee

0:32:29.060 --> 0:32:32.060
<v Speaker 3>still looking at the Western Michigan, Michigan ending? He goes,

0:32:32.100 --> 0:32:33.580
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, what'd they decide? I go, yeah, they said

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.220
<v Speaker 3>they can't do anything about it. And he texted me,

0:32:35.220 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 3>he goes, what do you mean they can't do anything

0:32:36.300 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 3>about it? Why have a committee if you can't do

0:32:38.180 --> 0:32:39.810
<v Speaker 3>anything about it? And then he just took that and

0:32:39.830 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 3>did down there. And I think that was one of

0:32:42.140 --> 0:32:43.910
<v Speaker 3>the things Dan does so well is kind of take

0:32:43.950 --> 0:32:46.570
<v Speaker 3>the voice of the everyman fan. He's Dan Patrick, but

0:32:46.590 --> 0:32:49.890
<v Speaker 3>he says like, you have an oversight committee. In general,

0:32:49.910 --> 0:32:52.830
<v Speaker 3>that's to fix things that are problems. I think that

0:32:52.870 --> 0:32:55.690
<v Speaker 3>holds in general of oversight. And if you can't fix it,

0:32:55.710 --> 0:32:56.430
<v Speaker 3>why hold the hearing?

0:32:56.970 --> 0:32:59.410
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Dan talked me into this one. I had no

0:32:59.890 --> 0:33:02.890
<v Speaker 2>inclination to say that Western Michigan should have won the game.

0:33:03.170 --> 0:33:04.930
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm all about it. Or at least say

0:33:05.010 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 2>both teams get a tie. Because Dan nailed it exactly.

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.860
<v Speaker 2>Why have the committee if you're just advising and you're

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 2>not even going to take the advice?

0:33:11.860 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 3>And he added that this is the one situation where

0:33:14.620 --> 0:33:17.210
<v Speaker 3>you can look at this situation and say, That untimed

0:33:17.230 --> 0:33:20.810
<v Speaker 3>down was unfairly given. Let's remove it. The result is

0:33:20.850 --> 0:33:23.950
<v Speaker 3>a Western Michigan win. And I think everyone would be like,

0:33:24.090 --> 0:33:26.150
<v Speaker 3>this is the right decision, this specific. And I don't

0:33:26.170 --> 0:33:27.660
<v Speaker 3>think it opens up a can of worms. You're not

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.500
<v Speaker 3>going to go back to a play in the first

0:33:29.540 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 3>half and say, oh, the ref made a bad call

0:33:31.380 --> 0:33:33.530
<v Speaker 3>in the first half. Let's overrule it. No, this is

0:33:33.590 --> 0:33:36.110
<v Speaker 3>a very specific end-of-game situation that was fouled up.

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.620
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a caller tried to insert that. Hey, let's look

0:33:38.660 --> 0:33:41.820
<v Speaker 2>at every call in the game. This is totally unique,

0:33:41.900 --> 0:33:44.940
<v Speaker 2>and it's simple. It's not that complicated. Western Michigan won

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 2>the game.

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 3>Western Michigan. I did have an idea. What if Western

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.030
<v Speaker 3>Michigan gets one untimed down going forward? Like if they

0:33:51.050 --> 0:33:53.370
<v Speaker 3>get in a tough game in a max situation, and

0:33:53.410 --> 0:33:54.910
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the game they lost, we get

0:33:54.990 --> 0:33:57.130
<v Speaker 3>one more down. We're owed one more down. Just a thought,

0:33:57.250 --> 0:33:57.970
<v Speaker 3>warm take, bonus call.

0:33:57.990 --> 0:33:59.150
<v Speaker 2>But then the other team gets screwed.

0:34:00.780 --> 0:34:03.260
<v Speaker 3>Warm take bonus coverage. All right, here we go. Jason Tatum.

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:05.740
<v Speaker 3>Jason Tatum, the great player for the Celtics was on

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.820
<v Speaker 3>the Dan Patrick show. And I think Dan mentioned this

0:34:07.860 --> 0:34:09.420
<v Speaker 3>was the first time he was ever a guest on

0:34:09.460 --> 0:34:12.820
<v Speaker 3>the show. I'm not sure. And he talked about different things.

0:34:12.900 --> 0:34:14.819
<v Speaker 3>We talked about some fun stuff. And then we got

0:34:14.860 --> 0:34:18.129
<v Speaker 3>to his relationship with his former teammate, current Sixer, Jalen Brown.

0:34:20.830 --> 0:34:22.210
<v Speaker 5>I love that guy.

0:34:23.230 --> 0:34:24.250
<v Speaker 3>Well, we were able to.

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 5>Accomplished together in nine years right went to the conference

0:34:27.900 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 5>finals five times we went to the championship twice we

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.370
<v Speaker 5>won the championship um we've shared all-star games together you

0:34:35.930 --> 0:34:38.350
<v Speaker 5>can't talk about him without talking about me and and

0:34:38.370 --> 0:34:41.690
<v Speaker 5>vice versa right the success that we've had as just

0:34:41.730 --> 0:34:45.589
<v Speaker 5>two young kids growing up in this league unfortunately the

0:34:45.650 --> 0:34:48.830
<v Speaker 5>the business of basketball is always going to play a

0:34:48.870 --> 0:34:53.470
<v Speaker 5>part um you know nobody has ever played together forever

0:34:53.770 --> 0:34:59.150
<v Speaker 5>um But it's not like a thing to be sad

0:34:59.210 --> 0:35:03.090
<v Speaker 5>or upset about. It's a thing to celebrate what we

0:35:03.110 --> 0:35:05.090
<v Speaker 5>were able to do.

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow. So we had a big debate in the control

0:35:09.500 --> 0:35:13.460
<v Speaker 2>room over this. Was Jason Tatum overcompensating? Because Jalen Brown

0:35:13.500 --> 0:35:16.660
<v Speaker 2>had some somewhat critical comments about the situation in Boston.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:21.190
<v Speaker 2>Tatum went full force positive there. We don't all buy it.

0:35:21.219 --> 0:35:23.299
<v Speaker 2>We think that he's just trying to say the right thing.

0:35:23.380 --> 0:35:25.580
<v Speaker 3>No, I think that's a veteran on a big national

0:35:25.620 --> 0:35:28.180
<v Speaker 3>radio show saying all the right things or things that

0:35:28.300 --> 0:35:31.350
<v Speaker 3>are the most palatable on a situation that probably wasn't

0:35:31.390 --> 0:35:33.410
<v Speaker 3>that great behind the scenes. It feels like two guys

0:35:33.770 --> 0:35:36.030
<v Speaker 3>who both think they are and are the alpha dog,

0:35:36.530 --> 0:35:38.739
<v Speaker 3>not exactly figuring out who is going to be the

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 3>double alpha dog. And now that he's gone... There's no

0:35:41.739 --> 0:35:43.420
<v Speaker 3>upside for him to say anything negative. He can do

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:44.580
<v Speaker 3>it on the court. He's going to get a lot

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:45.700
<v Speaker 3>of chances to do it on the court.

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:47.819
<v Speaker 2>And he is right. They were awesome together on the court.

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.049
<v Speaker 2>That's the bottom line. Overall, I think we'll get into

0:35:51.070 --> 0:35:53.529
<v Speaker 2>it later when we can get Dan back here. The

0:35:53.550 --> 0:35:56.270
<v Speaker 2>Tatum interview, there was a lot of work going on there.

0:35:56.290 --> 0:35:57.830
<v Speaker 3>Maybe we'll have Dan pop in tomorrow to talk about

0:35:57.850 --> 0:35:59.650
<v Speaker 3>the Tatum interview because it took a lot to get

0:35:59.690 --> 0:36:01.330
<v Speaker 3>to that point. There was some ramping up involved.

0:36:01.350 --> 0:36:04.020
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All right. We got another great clip. Oklahoma, of course,

0:36:04.060 --> 0:36:07.299
<v Speaker 2>lost to Michigan last weekend. So Baker Mayfield had to

0:36:07.340 --> 0:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>pay off a bet with his head coach Todd Bowles.

0:36:09.820 --> 0:36:15.489
<v Speaker 2>Watch this. That hurts.

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 4>That hurts real bad.

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 3>It's been a rough couple days.

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:21.919
<v Speaker 2>Oh, damn, Todd.

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 5>Can you explain that for us?

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.020
<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma versus Michigan.

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.810
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Todd's son was on the winning side of it.

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:30.720
<v Speaker 2>The Sooners were not.

0:36:30.910 --> 0:36:33.810
<v Speaker 3>And so, therefore, I squeezed into this little tank top.

0:36:35.489 --> 0:36:37.870
<v Speaker 3>That is fantastic. I think that's one of the reasons

0:36:37.910 --> 0:36:40.549
<v Speaker 3>people like Baker Mayfield, that he's the kind of guy.

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't look like an NFL quarterback. He looks like

0:36:42.940 --> 0:36:46.340
<v Speaker 3>he's in a TV show about this wild, crazy NFL quarterback.

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.300
<v Speaker 3>He's got the hat on back, or it's the beard,

0:36:48.620 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 3>the arms, the flair, and But he paid up on

0:36:50.700 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 3>the bet, and that's good TV.

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's funny. Coming out for week one, he

0:36:53.739 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 2>was a wild man on the field against Cincinnati for

0:36:56.340 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>good and bad. He is never boring. We were talking

0:36:59.219 --> 0:37:01.089
<v Speaker 2>earlier about how Aaron Rodgers is getting a little boring.

0:37:01.450 --> 0:37:03.490
<v Speaker 2>Baker Mayfield is getting a lot of that Aaron Rodgers

0:37:03.530 --> 0:37:04.830
<v Speaker 2>attention because he's so interesting.

0:37:05.070 --> 0:37:07.570
<v Speaker 3>You know what about Baker Mayfield? I still can't tell.

0:37:07.670 --> 0:37:10.130
<v Speaker 3>He kind of reminds me of the modern-day Brett Favre.

0:37:10.530 --> 0:37:13.110
<v Speaker 3>He's going to take some risks because Brett Favre had

0:37:13.130 --> 0:37:16.509
<v Speaker 3>a lot more physical ability, bigger, stronger, bigger arm. But

0:37:16.550 --> 0:37:18.930
<v Speaker 3>Baker's just not scared. And I don't think he's the

0:37:18.969 --> 0:37:21.430
<v Speaker 3>most talented, not even the top 10 most physically talented

0:37:21.510 --> 0:37:23.450
<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks in the sport. I'd say he's at the bottom

0:37:23.450 --> 0:37:27.250
<v Speaker 3>10 in physical skills. But his bravado, his not being

0:37:27.270 --> 0:37:29.280
<v Speaker 3>afraid to run. He's the kind of guy you'd want

0:37:29.450 --> 0:37:31.029
<v Speaker 3>as your quarterback, no matter what the price is.

0:37:31.430 --> 0:37:32.710
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes and no.

0:37:32.790 --> 0:37:35.490
<v Speaker 3>Not compared to Josh Allen. I'm talking about that next tier.

0:37:35.750 --> 0:37:37.989
<v Speaker 2>But I did bring up a real football conversation. The

0:37:38.090 --> 0:37:39.810
<v Speaker 2>Bucs are committing to him for likely two to three

0:37:39.830 --> 0:37:43.069
<v Speaker 2>years more. What's the ceiling with a Baker Mayfield? Grit

0:37:43.090 --> 0:37:44.810
<v Speaker 2>can only get you so far, Paul. It's not getting

0:37:44.830 --> 0:37:45.549
<v Speaker 2>them to the Super Bowl.

0:37:45.850 --> 0:37:48.370
<v Speaker 3>Well, see, I disagree from the standpoint of I think

0:37:48.430 --> 0:37:50.230
<v Speaker 3>in a tight playoff game, he'll do whatever it takes.

0:37:50.290 --> 0:37:52.390
<v Speaker 3>And I know they'll all do whatever it takes. but

0:37:52.410 --> 0:37:53.830
<v Speaker 3>I like him in a tight situation.

0:37:54.370 --> 0:37:57.830
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that he plays beyond his physical abilities,

0:37:57.870 --> 0:37:59.850
<v Speaker 2>which is good, but it gets you 10 wins at most.

0:37:59.930 --> 0:38:01.609
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't get you to where you want to be.

0:38:02.210 --> 0:38:04.590
<v Speaker 2>I'm worried about the Bucs with Baker because I know

0:38:04.610 --> 0:38:06.290
<v Speaker 2>they're going to make the playoffs here in the NFC South,

0:38:06.330 --> 0:38:07.609
<v Speaker 2>but are they going to take the next step?

0:38:07.710 --> 0:38:09.509
<v Speaker 3>All right, our last clip, and this seems to be

0:38:09.550 --> 0:38:12.669
<v Speaker 3>Groundhog's Day here on Not So Fast. Deshaun Watson, the

0:38:12.890 --> 0:38:15.850
<v Speaker 3>quarterback of the Browns, they let him talk again, and

0:38:15.910 --> 0:38:16.489
<v Speaker 3>here's how that went.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the media has this expectation that I'm supposed

0:38:20.469 --> 0:38:24.890
<v Speaker 6>to throw 400 yards and five touchdowns every week. Until

0:38:24.910 --> 0:38:29.130
<v Speaker 6>that happens, I guess it's going to be the same situation. Again,

0:38:29.730 --> 0:38:31.710
<v Speaker 6>my job is to make sure I'm operating well so

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<v Speaker 6>we can try to get a win and keep moving

0:38:34.460 --> 0:38:34.980
<v Speaker 6>forward from there.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple things, Pearl. I did some research and I

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 3>looked up how many times Deshaun Watson threw for 400

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 3>yards and five touchdowns. None times as a Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>None.

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:45.620
<v Speaker 3>I think they'd be fine if he threw for 200

0:38:45.620 --> 0:38:48.739
<v Speaker 3>yards and two touchdowns in a game. And I'm being

0:38:49.100 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 3>barely kidding.

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, the funny thing, though, in Houston, he did throw

0:38:52.340 --> 0:38:54.330
<v Speaker 2>for those. Oh, yeah. So where's that guy?

0:38:54.710 --> 0:38:56.210
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where that guy is. I know he's

0:38:56.230 --> 0:38:59.610
<v Speaker 3>had injuries, but before those Achilles injuries, he started stinking.

0:39:00.350 --> 0:39:02.109
<v Speaker 2>I think that's why the media expects him to throw

0:39:02.290 --> 0:39:04.730
<v Speaker 2>for 400 yards. They've seen it before. He's getting paid

0:39:05.010 --> 0:39:07.230
<v Speaker 2>for those kind of performances, and he's not getting anywhere

0:39:07.310 --> 0:39:07.700
<v Speaker 2>near that.

0:39:07.950 --> 0:39:10.060
<v Speaker 3>He is a weird character because they stick with him.

0:39:10.140 --> 0:39:12.259
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a financial decision. I think it's coming

0:39:12.300 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 3>from up top, and Browns fans have to be If

0:39:15.260 --> 0:39:17.569
<v Speaker 3>they could be more frustrated than they were last year,

0:39:17.610 --> 0:39:18.170
<v Speaker 3>they are this year.

0:39:18.270 --> 0:39:20.090
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if he plays badly this week, he might be

0:39:20.190 --> 0:39:20.890
<v Speaker 2>out by week three.

0:39:21.110 --> 0:39:22.870
<v Speaker 3>Okay, and not so fast, just like you at home,

0:39:22.910 --> 0:39:25.180
<v Speaker 3>we love sports movies, and we have some sports movie

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.980
<v Speaker 3>updates for you. We all know that the John Madden

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.780
<v Speaker 3>film is coming out. That's nicholas cage as john madden

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 3>which is wild and christian bale that's a big-time actor

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:37.020
<v Speaker 3>yeah as al davis the former uh raiders owner.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.500
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they look like their parts they're christian bale of

0:39:39.540 --> 0:39:41.820
<v Speaker 2>course from england playing al davis i can't wait to

0:39:41.860 --> 0:39:42.260
<v Speaker 2>see that.

0:39:42.180 --> 0:39:44.140
<v Speaker 3>No british accent there i think people are excited about

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.980
<v Speaker 3>that so here's the next one the pete rose biopic

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.470
<v Speaker 3>which is in in initial stages being played by actor

0:39:50.969 --> 0:39:52.709
<v Speaker 3>Marky Mark, Mark Wahlberg. Your thoughts?

0:39:53.110 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I saw a photo of this. Turns out it

0:39:54.660 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>was AI. I got fooled again.

0:39:56.020 --> 0:39:56.419
<v Speaker 3>It's okay.

0:39:56.700 --> 0:39:59.339
<v Speaker 2>But I think he's going to be amazing as Pete Rose,

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 2>and there's so many different parts of the story. He

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:02.940
<v Speaker 2>was on the Rich Eisen show. He said he wanted

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:04.900
<v Speaker 2>to do when he broke the hit record, and then

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 2>when he was a manager, got busted for gambling. I

0:40:08.300 --> 0:40:10.590
<v Speaker 2>can't think of a more interesting sports story. I'm in

0:40:10.670 --> 0:40:10.910
<v Speaker 2>on this.

0:40:11.030 --> 0:40:12.670
<v Speaker 3>Now, if you're Mark Wahlberg, are you going to cut

0:40:12.710 --> 0:40:14.990
<v Speaker 3>your hair into the Pete Rose bowl of the 70s,

0:40:15.250 --> 0:40:15.930
<v Speaker 3>or do you do a wig?

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? You've got to do the bowl.

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 2>How hard is it to do a bowl haircut?

0:40:19.300 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 3>But then you have to live with that for months

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:21.020
<v Speaker 3>of shooting.

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.340
<v Speaker 2>But Mark Wahlberg had that in Boogie Nights. Think back.

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.770
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he did have a bad haircut in Boogie Nights. Well,

0:40:26.790 --> 0:40:27.830
<v Speaker 3>awesome haircut in Boogie Nights.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think Mark Wahlberg actually has to strain

0:40:30.830 --> 0:40:32.569
<v Speaker 2>that hard to play Pete Rose. Believe it or not,

0:40:32.610 --> 0:40:33.530
<v Speaker 2>I think they're very similar.

0:40:33.630 --> 0:40:35.850
<v Speaker 3>Low center of base, about 5'10, kind of jacked.

0:40:36.110 --> 0:40:37.149
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, competitive.

0:40:37.170 --> 0:40:38.989
<v Speaker 3>All right, the last movie, and this is a weird one,

0:40:39.330 --> 0:40:42.529
<v Speaker 3>the Tommy Lasorda movie being played by Robert De Niro.

0:40:42.650 --> 0:40:44.220
<v Speaker 3>I honestly don't know if this is real or not.

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 3>I saw some websites that said this is. Is there

0:40:46.739 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 3>a big call for a Tommy Lasorda biopic? Have you

0:40:48.940 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 3>been hearing this?

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 2>In the Lasorda family, there might be. I guess De

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.450
<v Speaker 2>Niro is Italian and Lasorda was Italian.

0:40:55.530 --> 0:40:56.110
<v Speaker 3>That's confirmed.

0:40:56.310 --> 0:40:58.630
<v Speaker 2>My favorite part of Tommy Lasorda's whole career, I know

0:40:58.670 --> 0:41:00.690
<v Speaker 2>he's a great manager, when he got into an actual

0:41:00.750 --> 0:41:03.029
<v Speaker 2>fight with the Philly Fanatic, he got fed up with him.

0:41:03.550 --> 0:41:05.590
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they'll have that in the movie. I'm into that.

0:41:05.670 --> 0:41:08.870
<v Speaker 2>But generally, no. No, I don't need a Tommy Lasorda movie.

0:41:08.950 --> 0:41:10.630
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to call my shot here. I know nothing

0:41:10.670 --> 0:41:12.810
<v Speaker 3>about this movie, but the payoff has to be the

0:41:12.890 --> 0:41:16.310
<v Speaker 3>Kirk Gibson home run. It all swirls around his whole

0:41:16.350 --> 0:41:18.730
<v Speaker 3>life to putting Kirk Gibson in the game for that

0:41:18.770 --> 0:41:19.089
<v Speaker 3>home run.

0:41:19.130 --> 0:41:21.770
<v Speaker 2>Love it. That's great. I mean, listen, Pacino played a

0:41:21.790 --> 0:41:23.530
<v Speaker 2>football coach, so maybe De Niro is jealous.

0:41:23.550 --> 0:41:24.230
<v Speaker 3>That's not bad either.

0:41:24.250 --> 0:41:25.170
<v Speaker 2>Play a manager. All right.

0:41:25.190 --> 0:41:25.690
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty good.

0:41:25.910 --> 0:41:26.089
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:41:26.110 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Coming up next, constructive criticism and, oh, America's excited and

0:41:29.700 --> 0:41:33.300
<v Speaker 3>the football players are excited. Superlatives with our guy, Andrew Perloff.

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:33.780
<v Speaker 3>Stick around.

0:41:34.380 --> 0:41:35.260
<v Speaker 2>Superloftives.

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<v Speaker 3>Superloftives. Apologies to you and America.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Welcome back to Not So Fast. Three weeks

0:41:42.090 --> 0:41:45.700
<v Speaker 2>in a row now, the superloftives is catching fire, also

0:41:45.739 --> 0:41:49.779
<v Speaker 2>known as the endomic and superloftives. Got a lot in there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so today we're going to do, Paul, the most overhyped storylines.

0:41:54.380 --> 0:41:57.500
<v Speaker 2>Storylines we talked about way too much this offseason that

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.259
<v Speaker 2>turn out likely not to be true. And I'm going

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.859
<v Speaker 2>to start in L.A. with the former San Diego Chargers.

0:42:03.890 --> 0:42:06.489
<v Speaker 2>They're playing like the bad San Diego Chargers, of course

0:42:06.510 --> 0:42:09.210
<v Speaker 2>the L.A. Chargers. I bought into Mike McDaniel as a

0:42:09.250 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 2>new offensive coordinator. I bought into two left tackle, I

0:42:12.100 --> 0:42:16.339
<v Speaker 2>mean two tackles coming back. I bought into everything Charger-wise.

0:42:16.700 --> 0:42:19.950
<v Speaker 2>Week one, it was not there. So we said to

0:42:19.989 --> 0:42:21.730
<v Speaker 2>ourselves right before the season started, we're not going to

0:42:21.750 --> 0:42:23.790
<v Speaker 2>get fooled by these Chargers again. We think they're different.

0:42:24.310 --> 0:42:26.489
<v Speaker 2>They're not. Now, to be fair, it does take a

0:42:26.510 --> 0:42:28.950
<v Speaker 2>little while to get used to a new coordinator, but

0:42:29.030 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 2>I just did not see the juice there. Justin Herbert

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>does not fit Mike McDaniel's offense. That stuck out to

0:42:34.980 --> 0:42:38.100
<v Speaker 2>me the entire time. Chua ran that offense way better

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>than Justin Herbert. So when you're in the NFL, it's

0:42:40.380 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>the marriage of the offensive coordinator, play caller with the quarterback.

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Week one, it was not there. I am really worried

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:47.970
<v Speaker 2>about this Charger team moving forward. It is funny.

0:42:47.989 --> 0:42:49.910
<v Speaker 3>In the offseason, there was such a great storyline of

0:42:49.950 --> 0:42:54.259
<v Speaker 3>Mike McDaniels. He is a character. And the opposite, he

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.219
<v Speaker 3>looks like the young IT guy, and Jim Harbaugh looks

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:58.660
<v Speaker 3>like a guy who doesn't even own a computer and

0:42:58.739 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 3>uses MySpace.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. All right, my next super loftive is also in L.A.,

0:43:04.260 --> 0:43:07.100
<v Speaker 2>and everyone knows about this. All summer long, we hyped

0:43:07.140 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 2>up the Los Angeles Rams. One weekend, we feel like fools.

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.819
<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest. We thought Miles Garrett in L.A. would

0:43:13.860 --> 0:43:17.959
<v Speaker 2>just be unstoppable. Obviously, the word dream team was brought up. Okay,

0:43:18.100 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even talking about the injury, Paul. Now that

0:43:19.780 --> 0:43:22.130
<v Speaker 2>he's hurt, he's out. When he was on the field,

0:43:22.250 --> 0:43:25.430
<v Speaker 2>he was easy to work around for the San Francisco 49ers.

0:43:25.850 --> 0:43:27.630
<v Speaker 2>Turns out he's not going to be able to transform

0:43:27.650 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the entire defense. You know, you can always win if

0:43:30.380 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 2>you have a great quarterback. You can't always win if

0:43:32.380 --> 0:43:34.460
<v Speaker 2>you have a great defensive end. I know that because

0:43:34.500 --> 0:43:38.180
<v Speaker 2>Miles Garrett always lost in Cleveland. We were way ahead

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.770
<v Speaker 2>of our skis. with the L.A. Rams defense. Now, do

0:43:40.810 --> 0:43:43.130
<v Speaker 2>I think that they're going to struggle all year long

0:43:43.230 --> 0:43:44.669
<v Speaker 2>or are they out of the Super Bowl picture? Not

0:43:44.690 --> 0:43:48.590
<v Speaker 2>at all. But I think that we overhyped specifically that D-line.

0:43:48.730 --> 0:43:51.180
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's really confusing is I don't think Myles Garrett

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.720
<v Speaker 3>got old in one offseason, but maybe there's an injury

0:43:53.739 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 3>that's been brewing or maybe there's a knee situation that's

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 3>been a little cloudy down there and he needed a

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.140
<v Speaker 3>cleanup and he didn't realize he needed a cleanup until

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:01.900
<v Speaker 3>he got on the field against a great offense tackle

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.450
<v Speaker 3>and said, oh, if I'm going to compete against Trent Williams,

0:44:04.870 --> 0:44:06.190
<v Speaker 3>I need to get this looked at now, and I

0:44:06.230 --> 0:44:07.070
<v Speaker 3>may miss September.

0:44:07.270 --> 0:44:09.670
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again, 30s, not young anymore.

0:44:09.710 --> 0:44:09.910
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:44:10.150 --> 0:44:12.210
<v Speaker 2>But did we see any of this coming? And when

0:44:12.250 --> 0:44:13.610
<v Speaker 2>I say we, all of NFL Nation?

0:44:13.739 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 3>No, we thought it was going to be the greatest

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 3>defensive tandem ever. And the first week, Aaron Donald's not there, understandably.

0:44:19.030 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to let this play out to about Thanksgiving,

0:44:21.100 --> 0:44:22.620
<v Speaker 3>but by Thanksgiving, there's no excuses.

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay. My last super loft to let's go up to Minnesota.

0:44:26.940 --> 0:44:30.370
<v Speaker 2>We spent a big chunk of August worrying about Kyler

0:44:30.390 --> 0:44:34.870
<v Speaker 2>Murray versus JJ McCarthy. Turns out we probably aren't going

0:44:34.910 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 2>to see either of them necessarily. So most overhyped storyline,

0:44:38.180 --> 0:44:41.470
<v Speaker 2>it's got to be Kyler Murray. The injury concerns. In 2023,

0:44:41.469 --> 0:44:45.069
<v Speaker 2>he played eight games. 24, 17 games. 25, he played

0:44:45.230 --> 0:44:47.700
<v Speaker 2>five games. I don't know how good he's going to

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.140
<v Speaker 2>be when he's out there in Kevin O'Connell's offense in Minnesota,

0:44:50.420 --> 0:44:52.439
<v Speaker 2>but I do know that you have to worry about

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.460
<v Speaker 2>this guy's health every time he runs around, which is

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.969
<v Speaker 2>his strongest skill, is scrambling. But he has not been

0:44:58.989 --> 0:45:02.090
<v Speaker 2>able to stay healthy. We saw week one concussion. I

0:45:02.110 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 2>don't see a future for Kyler Murray in Minnesota, and

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm already ready to say that.

0:45:05.700 --> 0:45:07.339
<v Speaker 3>I love this one by you because we spent so

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.180
<v Speaker 3>much time on these two quarterbacks, and it's Wentz. And

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 3>then we spent so much time on Penix and Tua,

0:45:11.820 --> 0:45:12.739
<v Speaker 3>and it's Cooper Rush.

0:45:12.980 --> 0:45:14.860
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, this whole segment, I'm just mad at

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.700
<v Speaker 2>the time we wasted in August. And I feel pretty

0:45:17.739 --> 0:45:20.540
<v Speaker 2>confident that after week one, we know enough to claim

0:45:20.580 --> 0:45:21.540
<v Speaker 2>these as super lofty.

0:45:21.570 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 3>All right, in a couple minutes, we'll get to our

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.930
<v Speaker 3>Bills-Lions pick. But let's do a little constructive criticism, feedback

0:45:25.950 --> 0:45:28.310
<v Speaker 3>from the fans. From our friends, whatever it may be,

0:45:28.570 --> 0:45:31.330
<v Speaker 3>let's look at the first one, Pearl. Constructive criticism for

0:45:31.370 --> 0:45:33.290
<v Speaker 3>you and I on Not So Fast.

0:45:33.670 --> 0:45:34.029
<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

0:45:35.050 --> 0:45:38.250
<v Speaker 3>Oh, our buddy Ross Tucker tweeted, Friendly reminder, the Bill's

0:45:38.310 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 3>policy of emailing the press box menu ahead of time

0:45:41.219 --> 0:45:43.540
<v Speaker 3>so I can plan my other meals accordingly should be

0:45:43.580 --> 0:45:45.840
<v Speaker 3>standard around the league. You may think this is a

0:45:45.900 --> 0:45:48.860
<v Speaker 3>joke by Ross Tucker, but this is absolutely true. Second

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.589
<v Speaker 3>to you, Perloff. No one plans meals more than me, you,

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.220
<v Speaker 3>and Ross Tucker. But look at the press box dinner.

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:55.500
<v Speaker 3>We've got to go up there for a game.

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.980
<v Speaker 2>I almost feel like they're playing to Ross with this

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.399
<v Speaker 2>because we know he loves sausage. When he gets host

0:46:00.420 --> 0:46:02.980
<v Speaker 2>for Dan, he will put five sausage into a beer

0:46:03.020 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 2>cup and take them to the car.

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 3>With mustard, that's an absolute serious thing. Good job by

0:46:06.910 --> 0:46:08.489
<v Speaker 3>Ross Tucker and great job by the Bills there.

0:46:08.510 --> 0:46:10.410
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a very solid menu. We might have

0:46:10.430 --> 0:46:11.350
<v Speaker 2>to get to Western New York.

0:46:11.410 --> 0:46:13.589
<v Speaker 3>All right, this next one, Constructor Chris, is a fan

0:46:13.610 --> 0:46:17.250
<v Speaker 3>of ours, Undisclosed Location Crisp. He had to work yesterday,

0:46:17.370 --> 0:46:20.010
<v Speaker 3>so he couldn't watch the show, but he found a solution.

0:46:20.030 --> 0:46:26.549
<v Speaker 3>Here's how that went. His actual name is Chris, but

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:27.700
<v Speaker 3>he goes by Russ on Twitter.

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic. I love that guy wearing the little medallion

0:46:30.620 --> 0:46:32.820
<v Speaker 2>so he can hear the show and doing some work like.

0:46:43.469 --> 0:46:45.100
<v Speaker 3>Kind of working out that's our kind of fan.

0:46:45.140 --> 0:46:47.109
<v Speaker 2>Yeah i'm not sure how technically savvy is you could

0:46:47.130 --> 0:46:48.230
<v Speaker 2>do just earbuds.

0:46:48.430 --> 0:46:49.950
<v Speaker 3>Oh i'm not gonna make fun of it anyone who's

0:46:49.989 --> 0:46:51.989
<v Speaker 3>kind of half doing work so they listen to the

0:46:52.030 --> 0:46:53.350
<v Speaker 3>show that fits our brand.

0:46:53.330 --> 0:46:54.709
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he looked like he was having a good time

0:46:54.850 --> 0:46:56.390
<v Speaker 2>out in the outdoors doing his job.

0:46:56.190 --> 0:46:58.910
<v Speaker 3>Maybe a little light raking that is a lovely.

0:46:58.489 --> 0:47:00.590
<v Speaker 2>Way to spend an early afternoon.

0:47:00.210 --> 0:47:01.450
<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't you want to do that all right it's

0:47:01.530 --> 0:47:03.609
<v Speaker 3>time pearl off for the feel good the feel good

0:47:03.950 --> 0:47:06.110
<v Speaker 3>something you like something you don't like hopefully it's something

0:47:06.130 --> 0:47:09.800
<v Speaker 3>that keeps your day Let's throw it out to Sleepy

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:13.290
<v Speaker 3>Hollow High School in Sleepy Hollow, New York. You kids

0:47:13.330 --> 0:47:15.250
<v Speaker 3>don't be scared in the stands. That is not an

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<v Speaker 3>actual headless horseman. But that is a great mascot.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a killer mascot, especially for a high school team.

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<v Speaker 2>I still want to know how they pulled it off.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's some sort of see-through thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope so. I don't think they actually found a

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<v Speaker 3>person with no head who knows how to ride a horse,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're checking into it. I know some kids might

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<v Speaker 3>be terrified, but they're used to it. This is the mascot,

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<v Speaker 3>Sleepy Hollow High School, coming out the day. light color

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<v Speaker 3>in the background, the sun going down, the headless horseman

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<v Speaker 3>scaring people to death, I'm all in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to date myself on this one. The scaredest

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<v Speaker 2>I ever was as a kid, the Scooby-Doo episode with

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<v Speaker 2>the headless horseman. I think about it all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think scaredest is a word.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it turns out, though, it was the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>owned the grocery store down the block.

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<v Speaker 3>Also scary. All right, Perloff, before we get done, Bills, Lions,

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<v Speaker 3>a little keep it friendly, who you got? I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to go first.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I am going to take the Lions outright, not even

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<v Speaker 3>the point. I think this is a mandatory win. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the getting charged up about the new stadium will

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<v Speaker 3>be counterproductive to the Bills players, and all the pregame

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<v Speaker 3>hoo-ha will actually delay their preparation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the other side. Josh Allen was incredible against

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<v Speaker 2>the Texans. Detroit's not even close to the Texans' defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Allen is going to own the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm probably going to eat this. All right, last thing.

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<v Speaker 3>If we were up there for a tailgate, And a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of fans said, hey, it's the Not So Fast guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Jump through a table. Are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. And I'm wearing this sweater. This is my

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<v Speaker 2>jump through a table sweater.

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<v Speaker 3>That's your jump through a table sweater. I knew there

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<v Speaker 3>was a reason for it. If we ever get up there,

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<v Speaker 3>we will do so. That's it for Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Tune in to the Dan Patrick Show tomorrow, 9 a.m.

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<v Speaker 3>on NBC Sports Now and Peacock. Right afterwards, Pabst and Perloff,

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<v Speaker 3>right here, every day, noon Eastern.