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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky, joky. I'm really

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Hell, I'm guessed.

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Speaker 1: I Esnandaz. Hey boo, it's me Roz.

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Speaker 2: How you doing.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm doing just fine. I got to talk to

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Speaker 1: Adam Barry, who is one of the hosts of the

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Speaker 1: TV show Kindred Spirits, which is on Discovery Plus and

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Speaker 1: Travel Channel. This show is now about to have its

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Speaker 1: seventh season premiere, and that will be if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this today that this episode comes out. That's tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: the twentieth of January. There's seven well, there's six other seasons.

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Speaker 1: You can binge. I love it. I watched the show

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Speaker 1: a lot. I really like their approach on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's him, it's Amy Bruney. It's the psychic medium Chip Coffee.

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Speaker 1: Amy's been on the show, Adam's been on the show,

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Speaker 1: and now he's back talking today about gay ghosts. We

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Speaker 1: get into paranormal TikTok. We have a great time, so

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this conversation. He zoomed me from

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Speaker 1: Pee Town, Provincetown, so you know, we caught up. We

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Speaker 1: had a good time. So I hope you enjoy it,

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Speaker 1: and I say, we just get into it.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Here is me talking once again to Adam Berry on

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Speaker 1: with the show Oh my God, for his third appearance.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by Televisions Adam Berry.

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Speaker 2: WHOA Hi, TV's Adam Berry right here at your pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Of the TV show Kindred Spirits of course, of course.

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Speaker 2: New season coming out January twentieth of twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: on Travel Channel at nine eighth Central and streaming same

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Speaker 2: day on Discovery Book.

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Speaker 1: All right, and that's all we needed.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, goodbye?

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Speaker 1: Oh my God. I love I love Kendrick Spirits, I

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Speaker 1: love you, I love Amy, I love the whole crew.

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Speaker 1: You guys are awesome. Thanks for coming back. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm very good. You know, it's twenty twenty three. It's

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Speaker 2: new season, right, It's something to look forward to. It's

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Speaker 2: not most New Year's. You get into it and you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh god, you know how many days to Halloween? Usually

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Speaker 2: is what I think. But now you know every time

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Speaker 2: is beautiful and things are coming back to life, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, when do you guys shoot the show?

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Speaker 2: So we shot this season starting the first week or

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Speaker 2: on top of that, I mean it was because so

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Speaker 2: the Warner Brothers and Discovery scripts merged, so it's now

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Speaker 2: so it delayed our start date for filming Kindred. Usually,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever said this. I've never said

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what That's exactly what I was going to say.

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Speaker 2: It's like sometimes we feel like spirits go back to

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Speaker 2: I would go but like exactly what you just said,

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Speaker 2: we had established that it was her. She loved to

432
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: talk about her parties, her philanthropy, her love for her dogs, animals,

433
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: and the second you brought up the murder, she shut down.

434
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: And if you brought up her relationship ship with the actress,

435
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't really use the word lesbian because

436
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if that were

437
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that how old is that word?

438
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: I don't even know, but I but I talked about

439
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: the relationship and I wanted to bring it up very

440
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: nicely shut down completely, wouldn't talk about it, which it.

441
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: Was teristic of that time, you know.

442
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: Exactly. And so I think, you know what's interesting is

443
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: there's a law firm in Rhode Island or Providence or

444
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: something that has all of the materials from the from

445
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: the murder trial, the Axe murder trial, and they know

446
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: whether or not Lizzie has confessed it confessed. They know

447
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: it's in the files. But the files are so old

448
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: and locked up that no one's looked at them in

449
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 2: one hundred years or whatever it is. And you still

450
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: can't get access to them. We tried, oh we tried,

451
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: can't get access to them. And in those files, I'm

452
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: sure it has talks out all kinds of stuff because

453
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: they were her lawyer until she died, and so I'm

454
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: sure there's all kinds of things in there that's just juicy, juicy, juicy,

455
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: and I wish they were just released.

456
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna get in there. We're gonna get

457
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: in there late at night one night. We're gonna put

458
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: some masks on. Dun dunk.

459
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lower you like mission impossible string wise, and

460
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: you could go flying out, you know, like in a

461
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: star Formation. Yes, like Tom like Tom cruise, like not

462
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: hitting the sensors.

463
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: Yes, and then if I could arrest it, I'll be like,

464
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know if she was a lesbian.

465
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: Exactly, just screamed lesbian the whole way, and then they

466
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: let you go.

467
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: She was dating an actress and an actress and an actress.

468
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: Oh I see what you did there? Come on, I

469
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: like that. I like that an actress, actress, an actress

470
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: and an actress. I feel like there's a musical there.

471
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: There's something well, the Lizzie Boordon Musical, because you know

472
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: there's a rock musical with Lizzie Bordon about Lizzie Boardon.

473
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: I think they talk about that relationship.

474
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: Well, there's also the movie with with Christen Stewart and yep,

475
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: Chloe seven.

476
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, oh yeah yeah, and they get really

477
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: into them in that movie. So yeah, listen, here's the thing.

478
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: She doesn't like to talk about it, i'd say. And

479
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: Chip brought up you know, when Chip Coffee was there

480
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: at the psychic medium that we used, he sort of

481
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: brought in her personality about she has to look perfect,

482
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: like she has to look just to be put together,

483
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: and like you know that makes sense, you know. I mean,

484
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: people are like, did she do it? I don't know.

485
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: I sometimes I think she did. Sometimes I think she did.

486
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: Today I'm going to say I don't think she did it.

487
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: Last month I could have been like, yeah, I think

488
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: she did it, or she had split personality, like Lizzie

489
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: did it, but Lizbeth didn't. Right, But why would someone

490
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: who murdered their father and stepmother stay in the town

491
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: for the rest of their lives for the rest of

492
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: her life? Like to stay for the rest of your

493
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: life ridicule. Everyone knows who you are. You have all

494
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: the money, you got, all the money you know, and

495
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: you have bought this big mansion, you drive it, you

496
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: have a limousine, but you just keep key in town.

497
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: And she says it's because she wanted to see the

498
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: look on everyone's She wanted to be able to look

499
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: everybody in the eye when they finally found out that

500
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: she wasn't she's not the one who did it. I God,

501
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: that could be bold, that could I guess I know

502
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: it could be bold talk who knows? I like her

503
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: any too, honestly. So this is the thing when we talk,

504
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: when we talk to her, we both said it's it's

505
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: strange that we like like her, like we want to

506
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: hang out with her because she made a joke. She

507
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: made a joke to me because Amy was doing the

508
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: spear butt, listing to the spear box and doing the

509
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: est method up in her room, and I was downstairs

510
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: and I said, I said, Lizzie, I said, Lizabeth, let's

511
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: throw a party. You love to throw a party. Let's

512
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: throw a party here. And Amy goes your house as

513
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: if she was saying, no, not not your house, We're

514
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: not going to exactly. And I was like, oh, I

515
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: was like, not my house, You're not coming over. Yeah.

516
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: So I like, I mean, I like her every time

517
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: we went over there. You know, we went over there

518
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of times to film specials and stuff, and

519
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: you know, she's there just living her living her best

520
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: life after life, living her best after life.

521
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: Have you found other gay ghos like confirmed gay goes.

522
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: The only other time, uh, the only other time was

523
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: when I was on ghost Hunters and we investigated where

524
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: the Gemini Lounge fire happened in it in yeah, yeah,

525
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. It was the the someone threw a

526
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: mall Tov cocktail and the Stairway of this building upstairs

527
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: where they had like they had church basically, and it

528
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: was also a place for people to hang out and

529
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: be gay. And it was the at the time, it

530
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: was the biggest mass and like murder of a minority.

531
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: I think up until Pulse, I.

532
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: Think it was horrible. I've read about that.

533
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I think when we were there,

534
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: I talked about, you know, Obama was president at the time,

535
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: we could get legally married. I was married. I talked

536
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: about that. I talked about, you know, not having to hide,

537
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: and you know, they reached out to us. But other

538
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: than that, I really haven't come across other gay ghosts.

539
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: And somebody asked me that, like during Pride Month. They

540
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: were like, have you ever encountered gay ghosts? And I

541
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: was like, yes at one time. But the reason why

542
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: I think it is is because you don't lead with

543
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: that conversation. You know, in life, we don't lead with that.

544
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: We're gon't be like, hi, I'm Adam, are you gay?

545
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: Like you don't you don't do that. You kind of

546
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: say hi, I'm adam, what's your name? And you get

547
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: to know the person and you find out what they

548
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: need or what they want. As a ghost, like what

549
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: do you need? What do you want? If it comes

550
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: up in conversation, yes, but usually it doesn't because it's

551
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: not it's just if they are, it's it's not of importance.

552
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: I guess if that makes sense. It's like you don't

553
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: lead with it. If if we found out, like through

554
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: history and research that that yes, they were lesbian or

555
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: gay or whatever, and then of course you would bring

556
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 2: it up. But it isn't just something that that comes

557
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: up because I don't know, because we're all people, we're

558
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: all the same, and we're all equal, and it doesn't matter.

559
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: I guess is the is like it you know, it's

560
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: the least give what I'm saying. You understand. It's kind

561
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: of like we should we don't. We should treat each

562
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: other with the same kind of thing always.

563
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: And I think I wonder sometimes if there's scenarios where

564
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: because we when you talk about people in different generations,

565
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: and could that be why they're still earth bound just

566
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: because they didn't get to come out or whatever. But

567
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: I guess I don't really know specific scenarios of that,

568
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: but I imagine that it exists.

569
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I think that goes along with

570
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: unfinished business. You know, people have a lot of the

571
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: spirits being counter we say, you know, they have unfinished

572
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: business of some kind, and so that can absolutely be it.

573
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: And I've you know, I brought up the fact that

574
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 2: I was gay, like this season on Kindred when they

575
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: didn't they didn't, they didn't show it. But no, I does.

576
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: That every run out I'm gay. Every every location you

577
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: walk into, you.

578
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Were like, Hi, I'm gay, talk to me. We were

579
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: on Uh we were at the Valley Camp in Susant.

580
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 2: It's this giant freighter and I was down in the

581
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: coal room and a piece of coal you know, they

582
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: think cole gets thrown at people. And they were really

583
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: interested in Amy. You know, you know these sometime these

584
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 2: men ghosts, they're just like they're like grubby, and so

585
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: they they would only talk to us if Amy was

586
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: in the room. And so I was like, I was like,

587
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: you'd leave for a second, let me have a conversation.

588
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: And so I had a conversation. I was like, I'm gay,

589
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: and I wanted the I wanted the reality. I wanted

590
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: to hear them be like act get mad at me

591
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: or something, you know, like ah, this guy this, But

592
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: they didn't. They didn't care they didn't care. They were like,

593
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: where's the girl?

594
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: All right, allies.

595
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Exactly. I was like, fine, great, fine, find these these

596
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: men done in the coal mines or whatever. But I think, uh,

597
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: I think it would be interesting to uh do more

598
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: locations where I know, you know, the individual or the

599
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: people there were part of the queer community, because you know,

600
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: I think it would be good for our audience to see.

601
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's changed a lot since that.

602
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: For that Jem and I lounge Fire episode on Ghost was. Yeah,

603
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: I think that was like I do I do want

604
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: to go back there. I think that was like twenty

605
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: thirteen or fourteen, and you know, my inbox was full

606
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: of like why did you have to tell the world

607
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: you're gay on television? What do I say to my kids?

608
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: Like I'm just trying to watch a ghost show and

609
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: you had to bring politics into it like those kind

610
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: of emails, And I was like, this is fuck, this

611
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: is fucked up. And it's definitely changed a lot since,

612
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: you know, since that time, But I think it would

613
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: be really cool to do some locations where we absolutely knew,

614
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: you know, that maybe it was a nice old elderly

615
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: couple that lived together for a very long time and

616
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: then he passed away and they're still there, Like I'm

617
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: going to meet those guys, those gay gus.

618
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: I also love, like nice gay couple with their own

619
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: bed and breakfast or whatever. I feel like, I feel

620
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: like those have popped up a time or two. And

621
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: Kindred Spirit. It's a little gay couple with like a

622
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: historic house.

623
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: You did have the bed and breakfast where they were cousins.

624
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: They were cousins.

625
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: Two men were cousins. And I was like, I don't

626
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: know about that. They were like, we're cousins. We're cousins.

627
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, then maybe I'm wrong, Maybe

628
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this before.

629
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, you were right. You were

630
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: probably right because I was right. But they just said

631
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: they were cousins. Oh good for them, you know what

632
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And they were older, they're very you know,

633
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: and they had been through a lot, and I was like,

634
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: they were like, we're cousins, and I was like, but

635
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: my radar is.

636
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: Oh yes, was that the one that I had, like

637
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: the music box?

638
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: It was the one with the train?

639
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, I see.

640
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, maybe they're not if

641
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: they're watching this. If they're watching this, they are.

642
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: Well and it's confirmed.

643
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: If they're watching this, there's no watching this.

644
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well, because that's the I've seen every

645
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: episode of your show. But then over Christmas break I

646
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: was really feeling arts and crafty, and so I binged

647
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: like two three seasons or more I can't remember, and

648
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: so when, of course.

649
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: But keeping our numbers up.

650
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: But when I binge, I get confused of what place

651
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: was what, and like, there's just so many you watch

652
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: so many back to back to back. But I did

653
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: get to watch this season. I got to see a

654
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: little advanced screener as we call it in the business.

655
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: I got to see the first three episodes and I

656
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: love it. You guys are great. Chip, thanks the incredible

657
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: psychic medium. Chip Coffee is back in person, and he

658
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: is incredible? Has he Why doesn't he have a brand

659
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: of coffee chip coffee flavored chips called Chip Coffee's Coffee Chips?

660
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: You know, I think that's a missed opportunity. I don't

661
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: know the answer to that. There's so many people that

662
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: spell his last name like coffee, like c O f

663
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: fee that he could absolutely get away with it. But

664
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Speaker 2: I just he I don't is he. I don't know

665
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: if he's perky enough honestly for a coffee brand, because

666
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 2: he goes in and he will tell you like it

667
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: is from the beginning of an He like I'm tired,

668
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: I'm going home, and he just is exhausted from it all.

669
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: He needs coffee most of the time.

670
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I imagine that's draining to go into some

671
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: of these places. Well, like you guys, don't you don't

672
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: really go to happy places like you do sometimes.

673
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: But I know I go to my happy place when

674
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm done. I think they are well. I mean, when

675
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: you think about it, we only get ten episodes and

676
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: hopefully one day that changes. But you get ten opportunities

677
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 2: to help ten different people or locations, and so usually

678
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: they're the worst of the worst. They're the ones that

679
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: need to help the most, the ones that are the

680
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: most desperate. You know, we're not going to go to

681
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 2: Betty's house if she just hears a knock like that's

682
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: not happening, and she wants to pay Cookie's breast, you know,

683
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: that's not happening. So so yeah, so sometimes it can

684
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: get very gloom and doom. What I love about this

685
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: season though, is there's showing a bit more of amy

686
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: and personality at times, because you saw the first three episodes, right,

687
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: those are heavy handed. Those are heavy episodes because you know,

688
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: we want to get you into the season and trap

689
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: you and keep you for all ten episodes. Got me,

690
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: thank you? Well good that one person we got, we

691
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: gotta we got. We start with one and we'll get

692
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: the rest. But I think there's I think they they've

693
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: been showing our personality a little bit more where we're like,

694
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: you know, nope, don't like that, you know, kind of

695
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: how we normal, like how I am now, Like people

696
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: are like you're so normal, like normal normal, You're so

697
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: like you're you have a personality and you're funny and

698
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: you guys are so funny. And it's like, yeah, they

699
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: don't show that on the show because you know it's

700
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: we don't A, we don't have time a lot of

701
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: the times, you know, we have enough time to show you.

702
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: But b it is serious.

703
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are dealing with very serious stuff and

704
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: you're you're helping people both living and dead.

705
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in the so the first episode, the

706
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: the idea is, you know, the whole idea behind going

707
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: there was like you have this person, these group of

708
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: people who are running a facility. They're upkeeping this historical society,

709
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: but the location itself has a lot of darkness around it.

710
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: You know. They it was at one point ran by

711
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: this man name I was gonna say Nicholas Cage, but

712
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: that's not right.

713
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Speaker 1: Something Cage.

714
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Speaker 2: It's it's something. It's not Nicholas.

715
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Speaker 1: It's not Nicholas Cage.

716
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: No, okay, But you know this guy was he was evil.

717
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: He was taking not he was evil, I guess in

718
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: a way like he was being funded by the town

719
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: to keep this place so that people that couldn't afford

720
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Speaker 2: a place to go could live there. It was like

721
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Speaker 2: a poor farm. But he would take the money and

722
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: you know, throw lavish parties for himself and his friends,

723
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Speaker 2: and he would spend the money on other things, and

724
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Speaker 2: he would chain people to the wall in the basement

725
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: and in the dungeon, like there was a literal dungeon.

726
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, not the happiest place. But the people running

727
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: it had all these experiences and didn't understand, uh, why

728
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: it was happening to them because they were doing everything right.

729
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: Obviously they had they got into that place. They are

730
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: taking care of that place. They are talking about the history,

731
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: they are shedding lights on the location. They're talking about

732
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Speaker 2: its past and what it did for the community. They're

733
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Speaker 2: running a nonprofit organization there by all, by all circumstances,

734
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: they are doing everything correctly. So why is the activity,

735
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: you know, preventing them from doing certain things, making them uncomfortable,

736
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: making them uneasy? Uh, to the point where you know,

737
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Speaker 2: there was one guy that was working there didn't want

738
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: to be there by himself. You know, he caught that

739
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 2: that cell phone footage of the banging at the top

740
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: of the stairs. He's like, I don't want to be there.

741
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: And then a psychic, a psychic comes up and like

742
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: takes the tour and then calls him the next day

743
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 2: out of nowhere and says, hey, by the way, something's

744
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: following you around and like getting you, which is so

745
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: mean to do to somebody. Yeah, I mean they were terrible.

746
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like it was like I didn't want to

747
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: say anything during the tour, but actually the tour like

748
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: that's like a bad yell perview, Like I couldn't focus

749
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: on the tour because there was a demon crawling behind

750
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: you the whole time.

751
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: That's the that's probably the worst thing you can do,

752
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: even if you are psychic, Like, for real, don't call

753
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: somebody after the back and give them anxiety. I mean, like,

754
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: that's like when somebody you know, I don't know comes

755
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: up to you and be like, hey, you know it

756
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: looks so well, how are you feeling today? It's like, girl,

757
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: what should I be sick right now? What's happening? My

758
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: anxiety is the roots shade. It's terrible. It's terrible, It's

759
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: it's psychic shade. I don't like it. So yeah, I

760
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: mean so that case, you know, it was really I

761
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: think what was really cool about that case and trying

762
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: not to get too much away but being able to

763
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: bring in all of the people that work there into

764
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: the investigation and giving them an opportunity to ask the

765
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: questions they needed to know because A, it's Amy and

766
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: I all we can do is try to figure out

767
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: who it is really, but they're there all the time,

768
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: and so it's like, let them ask the questions, let

769
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: them find out what they need to know. Because there

770
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: were four of them and I can't speak for all

771
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: of them. And it was really cool to see the

772
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: reactions from the spirits talking through Amy in the spirit

773
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: box to them and like witnessing that happening in the

774
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: space because you could feel that the spirits really appreciated

775
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: what was going on. But also these people that work

776
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: there are finally getting there, I guess, getting a platform

777
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 2: to speak to who they're wanting to help and take.

778
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: Care of well, right, because I imagine, you know, there's

779
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: probably a lot of investigations, whether on TV or not,

780
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: where they go in, they stir some shit up and

781
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: then they're like, bye, we're done, and then the people

782
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: that live there or work there or whatever have to

783
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: deal with the mess. And I would see I can

784
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: imagine that you guys, including those people, that seems like

785
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: completely the right thing to do if you're trying to

786
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: get these ghosts to coexist or to get along with

787
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: them or whatever.

788
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we can't ever forget that, no matter what, Like,

789
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: no matter what, when we leave that location, the people

790
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: that live there or the people that work there do

791
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: not get to go. They are going to be there

792
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: every day, especially if they live there families and stuff

793
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 2: like that's their house. So we are always hyper aware

794
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: of like knowing whatever we say and whatever we find,

795
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: we have to be honest about all of it. We

796
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: have to tell them the truth. We can't hide. Like

797
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: sometimes we get evidence and we're like, oh god, that

798
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: sounds really crazy or that looks really intense, or you

799
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: know what happened to you when you were using like

800
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: getting touch Like that's oh god, they're not going to

801
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: like to see this, but spoiler alert, it's going to

802
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: be on television anyway, right, so we have to just

803
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: tell them, like, we have to tell them, and we

804
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: have to kind of you know, we have to make

805
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 2: sure we know what we're talking about and giving them

806
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: a proper solution because we get to go home, we

807
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: get to go to our house, and they are still

808
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: going to be there sitting in their living room with

809
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: that activity, and so we have to improve the situation

810
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: at all times.

811
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: It's like you hear about some of these makeover shows

812
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: or whatever.

813
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: Oh god, like those those are my favorite clips when

814
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: somebody when they showed, like the ones where they're like

815
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: I don't like this, I what did you do? There

816
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: are those clips where they're.

817
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: Like no, yeah, no, and then it's like all right,

818
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: bye guys, and then as soon as the crew leaves,

819
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: all the walls fall in their house, like yeah, well, Adam.

820
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: I think that does it for another visit from television's

821
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: Adam Berry. Thank you for taking the time. We're so

822
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: excited for the new season. Tell people once again where

823
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: to find it and where to find you and all that.

824
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: Well. If the new season of Kindred Spirits begins January

825
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: twentieth at ten ninth Central on Travel Channel and streaming

826
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: same day on Discovery Plus, you can watch Discovery Plus

827
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Speaker 2: on streaming platforms and your computer and your phone, and

828
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: then you can follow me on Twitter Adam J. Berry, Instagram,

829
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Speaker 2: Adam Berry Tickity Talk the Adam Berry and my new

830
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Speaker 2: merchandise store called Adambury merch dot Com. Adam rymerch dot Com.

831
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Speaker 2: Is the jingle?

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Speaker 1: Did you write that?

833
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was. It was really hard. I like said

834
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: to I was like using different instruments and keys.

835
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: It's good.

836
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm coming out with more stuff because I

837
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: like to. I like to make things. People like, uh,

838
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: it has a spooky nature. I just came out with

839
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: this amazing knit blanket. People are like, you're doing knits now.

840
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm doing it. Yes, I'm doing in.

841
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: Your nit era.

842
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: Wait a second, I'm making all the place I'm not.

843
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: On TikTok at all. I need to follow you, though,

844
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: but I technically have one. What do you think about

845
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: TikTok paranormal stuff? Like are you seeing good stuff? Are

846
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: you seeing? Do you it's so hard?

847
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: Do we have another hour?

848
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: I don't believe there's anything that I see, unfortunately.

849
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, here's the thing. There are people I like

850
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: paranormal TikTok that talk about history, that know their history

851
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: in facts. My Bloody Gallentine is very good New England Spy,

852
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: Spooky ghul Amanda, she's very good. I like those kind

853
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: of things. I do not like paranormal TikTok where someone

854
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: is just sitting and talking like this and they're doing

855
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: a video and then the door behind them see that,

856
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 2: like mirror the door open, Like come on, I hate

857
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 2: that so much, and like you know what, your house

858
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: could be haunted. Sure, But the one problem is they

859
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: have nothing to lose, right, They have started to pick

860
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Speaker 2: they started a TikTok. They say it's paranormal TikTok. They

861
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: have all these stories and the activity and they're showing

862
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: you all this stuff. But in the end, they have

863
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 2: nothing to lose. So if somebody finds out that it's

864
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: all fake. They can just delete their account, start a

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00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: new one, delete their account, and like or not delete

866
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: their account. I don't even care, keep going. And I

867
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: think you know, with us, it's credibility, it's credibility. It

868
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: is it is, you know, without the credibility, you can't

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Speaker 2: help people who can't do anything. So I'm just not

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Speaker 2: a I'm not a fan. I'm a fan of that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of that. But but how do

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Speaker 2: you know? And the thing is, like I've tried, remember

873
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: that thing that came out the guy on Twitter that

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Speaker 2: just David Dear David.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't believe that. It turned seconds well.

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Speaker 2: It turned out to be a complete story. He admitted,

877
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: it's complete, it's online. I looked at it. I think

878
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: I think he admitted that it was completely fabricated story

879
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: and that they're going to make a movie out of it,

880
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: like it was a whole.

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00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: Well, I knew from the very jump. I'm like, this

882
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: guy is a writer, he's an animator. This is the

883
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: best story I've ever seen. This is the best looking

884
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: ghost I've ever seen in a photo. I don't believe

885
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: this for a second. And then he did get a

886
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Speaker 1: movie deal and his own show, and I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I never believed it, and he refused to to do interviews.

888
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: He also refused to get help, so he was really afraid,

889
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: and so many people were like tagging us always, and

890
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: I reached out to him privately and I said, hey, look,

891
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Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening here. I don't know if

892
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: this is real or not. I was like, I'll take

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Speaker 2: it with a grain of salt, but if you actually

894
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: need help, we can come in. I was like, we

895
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: don't even have to do it for television. I mean,

896
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Speaker 2: if you let us post about it on social media

897
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: that we're there and you can talk about us being there,

898
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: we'd love to give you the opportunity, like to get

899
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: actually get actual answers, silence, never reached out, never talked

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Speaker 2: to it. And I've done that, you know, I've done

901
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: that a couple of times for people that are like

902
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 2: this person really needs help, like they really believe them,

903
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: and they don't. Nobody ever wants help. They just want

904
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: to keep posting their crazy experiences and crazy things, and

905
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: that to me is like and they're still freaking out

906
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: about it. It's still the worst day of their life. Sleeping.

907
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: They haven't slept in days. And I'm like, okay, we

908
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: can help you do something.

909
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: About the content. The numbers.

910
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: Exactly. And so I'm like, I don't believe that. But

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00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: there are some people out there, like you know, the

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Speaker 2: two that I mentioned that are that are doing really

913
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: cool paranormal stuff. Because not only are they, you know,

914
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: giving you history, giving you mystery, telling you a story

915
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: about a location there, they go investigate and they go

916
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: like group investigations, like they came to Mount Washington with us,

917
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, and they show something that happened

918
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: there and they don't sugarcoat it and they're like, look

919
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: at this cool thing going off and you know, and

920
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: they leave it at that, and that's It's enough. It

921
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 2: honestly is enough.

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Speaker 1: Well you heard it here, Adam.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I adore you. I wish you

925
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: weren't such a potty mouth, but I know that I

926
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Speaker 1: really enjoy I really enjoy what you got do and

927
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch the season. Thanks for doing this,

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Speaker 1: you very much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for your support. And yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: do it again soon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Adam Berry. Check out Kindred

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Speaker 1: Spirits let me know what you think. I just I

933
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Speaker 1: love their approach. I think they're such cool investigators and

934
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Speaker 1: they're just really good at talking to the ghosts and

935
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Speaker 1: being like, hey, what's the problem, what's wrong, let's figure

936
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Speaker 1: this out. I think that's nice. Are you following me

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Speaker 1: on Instagram It's at Roz Hernandaz, TikTok and Twitter at

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Speaker 1: It's raz Hernandez. Please rate this show five stars and

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Speaker 1: exists a couple of years of content there at rosdres falise.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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